There seems to be a lot more NBN people around at the moment than there has been before. Lots of Telstra guys having coffee at La Paloma and workmen standing around "working hard".
I've noticed that too � there are about 10 guys in my street again today. Traffic management, asbestos removal, excavation and pit and pipe installation teams.
Last week I asked one of the cabling contractors how long it would be until the cabling works would be complete in Brunswick, his answer was "weeks".
Still, if that could mean by early March, it's not that unreasonable to think we could have a live connection by June/July is it?
Fingers firmly crossed!
Remember the backhaul needs to be built. Its a tough area to get services to. Hence why its a trial site.
From what i can tell thats a standard Tyco BC/E 6 fibre joint. Splicing either from the FDH or connecting the distribution together. Id say the FDH is right next door.
Ah, backhaul. Am I right in thinking that the Brunswick exchange needs to be connected to the NBN NOC in Docklands? Is that the backhaul link you are referring to? In this instance, is the NOC the same facility as the POI?
Am still trying to get my head around the exact topology.
By the way, I have added some more photos of nbn works today at
It's quite odd seeing pictures so close to my house of what I can go outside and see, but, since I'm still at work.
It's nice to see that Brunswick looks nice today.
Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to get backhaul out of brunswick. There's shiteloads of dark fibre sitting around
Ah, backhaul. Am I right in thinking that the Brunswick exchange needs to be connected to the NBN NOC in Docklands? Is that the backhaul link you are referring to? In this instance, is the NOC the same facility as the POI?
No the POI is located at the Nextgen facilities in West Melbourne. They'll need fibre from the FDHs back to their OLT (Optic Line Terminal) then backhaul fibre back to the POI.
This assumes the OLT is located at Brunswick exchange, of course its possible that the OLT is located at the POI in West Melbourne � the distance isn't that far for a fibre run.
Photo Update: I have again updated http://www.flickr.com/photos/59110820@N08/
(update: flickr seems to be having some problems, and intermittently showing some of my photos as completely blank. weird. maybe try again later)
this morning with some good pics. Sorry about the sub-par photos added yesterday � I was desperate to see some progress, and was really struggling.
Today is a different day though � some great progress being made with the intermediate fibre (black casing) being pulled into residential streets. I spoke to one of the Decon guys, and from my understanding this fibre is the intermediate link between the zone terminals and smaller zone terminals(these are probably called something else) which have the final fibre run into the houses (i.e. lead in cables).
So in the case of Brunswick, my understanding of the network is as follows (correct me if I'm wrong)
1. POI (point of interconnect) Nextgen facility, west Melbourne.
2. OLT (Optical line terminal), Brunswick Exchange, Frith St Brunswick)
3. FDH (fibre distribution Hub), Beige cabinets on the streets
4. Zone terminals (black shoebox sized units that are underground, connected back to the FDH with the familiar thick blue fibre cable)
5. Secondary zone terminals(I have not seen one of these yet) � connected back to the primary zone terminal with a much thinner black fibre optic cable.
6. Lead in cables (to the premises) � I have not sen these yet, and suspect we won't until mid-late april. These cables connect the secondary zone terminals to the actual houses/offices, with each secondary zone terminal providing the connection for 8 premises.
For anyone in the know, is the above even remotely close to truth? I've had to piece together information from talking to contractors and very un-detailed diagrams from NBN CO.
Photos and info of the Zone Terminals, pre-made lead-in cables etc on the Corning website:
http://www.corning.com/cable
As of Friday 10th Feb, my entire street (both sides) has fibre in the pits!
From yet another chat to a contractor this week, it seems that the end of April is likely for cabling works to be complete in the trial site � so hopefully we'll have the lead-in cabling contractors contacting residents shortly thereafter.
I have also seen the cabling guys pulling fibre down Sydney Road, about a block south of the trial site boundary � so I'm assuming this may be part of the backhaul link from the Brunswick exchange to the Nextgen facility in West Melbourne?
Last night someone was cutting up the footpath on Sydney Rd from Stewart St down to about the Kylie J bridal shop, I'm 2 or 3 doors down from that. Pretty sure it was the NBN guys but can't be sure as I didn't go and check, but I assume they'll continue to do chunks of 20 � 30 metres down Sydney Rd over the next few weeks.
They started about 10pm and I'm pretty sure I still heard them doing stuff around 5am, though I was pretty groggy at that time of the morning � especially since I'd gotten bugger all sleep, what with the appalling amount of noise the concrete cutter was making until around 1am.
Fast internet is approaching, no more relying on God-awful 3G! (no phone line into building).
Id assume the secondary zone terminals are actually multiport terminals ready to take the drop cables (lead-in).
A bulk fibre from the FDH to a joint where it breaks out smaller bulk cables to the zone terminals where it breaks out 12F each (one tube) to a mulitport terminal where single fibre drop cables feed the house.
Draw away. Post up.
Id assume the secondary zone terminals are actually multiport terminals ready to take the drop cables (lead-in).
A bulk fibre from the FDH to a joint where it breaks out smaller bulk cables to the zone terminals where it breaks out 12F each (one tube) to a mulitport terminal where single fibre drop cables feed the house.
After doings some more reading, I believe you are 100% correct with above statement. My "secondary zone terminals" are in deed correctly referred to as Mulitport terminals.
So that would mean that there will be a multiport terminal located in a pit for every 8-12 houses, the lead-in fibre from which then has to be pulled through the underground ducts to service each property?
If i have this is correct, there will be a lot more pulling of underground fibre lead-ins required in order to actually connect each house.
Of course, my assumption here is that the lead-in cable will be provided underground � and not overhead.
Correcto,
Telstra are building so they will aim for underground. They do not have permissions to do aerial drop AFAIK. THat could change and employ linesmen to do the final drop. I doubt that will happen.
Are there aerial poles around brunswick? Underground to aerial or vice versa is not difficult. There are a few additional complications there but hopefully the 300+ Telstra people employed to do brunswick know what they are doing.
There is so much work going on at the moment. As I drove through the side streets on my way to work I noticed 4-5 different parts that were being worked on.
I wonder if Telstra is trying to do it really quickly and well so they can get more contracts in the future.
Question for those on the ground in Brunswick and/or are more familiar with Melbourne.
If you look here and scroll down to page 11 where you can see the outline of the brunswick area, does this appear to be in fact the actual footprint of the area FTTH is being deployed in by Telstra? Or is that outline just what you would call Brunswick, and the actual area within that being rolled out is smaller?
Just curious.
If you look here and scroll down to page 11 where you can see the outline of the brunswick area
I think that red outline shows the second stage release site, not the first stage which is currently being deployed � it's a much larger area and, as far as I can tell, is actually further south-east than the current small first release area.
You are right, good point. However the fact it has extended further SE with the first release site is interesting and what I was looking to see � weather those defined boundries are fairly locked down or just a very rough indication.
I was looking at the second release sites in Adelaide of Prospect and Modbury � and for second release sites, if they actually cover within the red boundaries, that is a pretty bloody significant chunk of Suburban Adelaide for a second release.
Are there aerial poles around brunswick?
Brunswick is like the centre for aerial modern art.
Power, aerial HFC (looks like Optus), tram lines.. pretty typical for an older Melbourne suburb.
Spotted dozens of fluoro vested workers today (Saturday) rolling out fibre all along the footpaths of Royal Parade in Carlton. I'm guessing they are connecting the Brunswick trial site back to the Docklands HQ...in fact they were all they way out to North Melbourne with trucks loaded with blue fibre and lots of Telstra ducts surrounded by the yellow safety cages.
There were guys sitting in the back of a truck on the corner of Albert and David street for all of Friday and Saturday doing what looked like splicing.
If you look here and scroll down to page 11 where you can see the outline of the brunswick area, does this appear to be in fact the actual footprint of the area FTTH is being deployed in by Telstra? Or is that outline just what you would call Brunswick, and the actual area within that being rolled out is smaller?
the Brunswick outline looks to generally corelate with the Brunswick, Moreland, Coburg and half of the Fawkner exchange areas (doing a comparison with TPG's exchange maps). The extreme south west corner of that area is the commonwealth games village where I used to live and it's RIM-city with a lot of fibre in the ground already � I'd actually like to see what they do here, if Telstra are giving them assets, I wonder if they're just going to take all the RIM infrastructure (including fibre back to the BRUK exchange) and just remove the copper lead ins and replace with Fibre... pretty cheap to do one would imagine.
I live on the western boundary of that outline... hurry up NBNCO :D
Yeah that outline is much bigger than the initial test area.
Got a letter in the mail this week, looks like they're doing the rest of the Sydney Rd section this week � thankfully during the day.
Certainly a lot of NBN work happening this week.
Do they have much fibre left to lay?
Indeed, there are works going on everywhere today. However, there are still plenty of streets I've noticed in trial zone that still haven't had the pits upgraded to the new poly-pits.
I think an early May completion date (for pit, pipe and cabling) is what they're aiming for having spoken to the contractors last week.
I see that all down Royal Parade in Parkville there is lots of activity building the link back to the Nextgen Facility in West Melbourne. I tried following the works yesterday to see where they led to, but I lost the trail at the Roundabout-of-death and gave up.
Very much looking forward to seeing the fibre creeping further up Sydney Rd towards Coburg. I'm right smack bang in the centre of the 2nd release site and eagerly awaiting the lightening speeds of the nbn.
Yeah that outline is much bigger than the initial test area.
I'm guessing you must be looking at the 2nd release site map...this included much of Brunswick and surrounding areas....the 1st release area is only a few streets wide..
http://www.arnnet.com.au/art
An NBN Co spokesperson told ARN all five sites would have activated trial customers by the end of April via retail services providers (ISP).
I'm a bit skeptical, but if true that is pretty awesome. I had expected it happen in June at the earliest.
http://www.arnnet.com.au/ar
I'm a bit skeptical, but if true that is pretty awesome. I had expected it happen in June at the earliest.
How much did that news make your day yesterday? I agree though in thinking that timeline may be a little tight for Brunswick. I'd be thrilled to be proved wrong on this though.
The article does go on to say that:
�We�re looking at getting one or two test customers by the end of April."
But it's a little confusing as I think the NBN Co rep was talking about RSPs, and the reporter has interpreted the statement to mean end users, i.e. me.
In any case, if anyone at NBN Co is reading this and looking for an early adopter to do their first deployment, you know who to ask!
I have called my current DSL provider iiNet to see if I could pre-order a connection, but to no avail.
Has anyone had a letter re lead-in cable installation yet?
Maybe we should have a thread that gives a count down to the turn on of the NBN test areas. :)
How much did that news make your day yesterday? I agree though in thinking that timeline may be a little tight for Brunswick. I'd be thrilled to be proved wrong on this though.
Yeah I agree. Curiously from http://www.computerworld.com.
The highest rate of consent was in Willunga, South Australia � some 91 per cent � and the lowest was Brunswick in Melbourne � just 50 per cent; something Quigley attributed to the high percentage of rental properties in the suburb.
So presumably hooking up houses should go quicker in Brunswick because there are less people opting in. Maybe that is how it will be done by the end of April..
But yeah, I also read it as there might be some people connected in April.
Have any apartment blocks been wired up yet?
To my knowledge, no premises have been connected yet in Brunswick.
Really not sure about any apartment blocks having the internal cabling completed though.
I'm guessing you must be looking at the 2nd release site map...this included much of Brunswick and surrounding areas....the 1st release area is only a few streets wide..
That's exactly what I meant � I'm in the 1st release area, the recent links in this thread show the much larger second release map.
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Well our apartment block on Sydney Rd finally got phone lines into the building after 3 years of wrangling with the real estate agent, the landlord and Telstra (please don't ask for details, it's a horror story). It took a guy buying another flat in the building going ape shit at Telstra to finally get them in.
So now do i bother getting a 6 month ADSL contract or just stick with crappy 3G and wait for the NBN?
I'm rather concerned that our building may have issues getting cabling in from the street since there was such an issue with the phone lines. Also getting wiring up to the apartments � at the moment the only wiring going upstairs is the phone lines and aerials, how easily can they hook up an apartment building? I imagine it'll be a total bitch of a job.
I just hope they accepted my renters application, the landlord said nothing about hearing from NBN Co about permission, though I am in semi-regular contact with another apartment owner who has definitely applied and he's not heard anything yet either.
Also getting wiring up to the apartments � at the moment the only wiring going upstairs is the phone lines and aerials, how easily can they hook up an apartment building? I imagine it'll be a total bitch of a job.
No doubt lots of people live in apartments in Brunswick, so I don't think there will be an issue in getting the apartments wired up.
I lived in an apartment block and had to arrange to get Pay TV hooked up at one stage.
I had to get the other members of the body corporate to agree, but once we gave the go-ahead, it was really smooth.
There was a bit of ugly piping on the outside of the building, but it took them less than a day to get the whole thing set up for all (eight) apartments.
I was stuck at the lights at Middleborough & Canterbury Road, Box Hill, VIC, today it looked exactly like the "All hands on deck" pic ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/59110820@N08/page2/ ) only with Telstra blokes there. They were being precise doing whatever it was they were doing.
Well I'd say the wiring would be internal but we'll see what happens. The garage downstairs has all the termination wossnames for the phone lines, security system and aerials all on the wall just inside the exit from the garage to the stairwell. I'd expect them to somehow pull the Ethernet cables up along where the phone lines or aerials are rather than pipe it outside, but either way it ain't my building so I don't care so long as they get it done :)
Spotted dozens of fluoro vested workers today (Saturday) rolling out fibre all along the footpaths of Royal Parade in Carlton. I'm guessing they are connecting the Brunswick trial site back to the Docklands HQ...in fact they were all they way out to North Melbourne with trucks loaded with blue fibre and lots of Telstra ducts surrounded by the yellow safety cages.
It is doubtful if the NBN roll-out is using Telstra ducts at the moment as the Heads of Agreement between Telstra and NBN Co. can't proceed until ratified by Telstra owners.
Interesting letter Sambo but I am now a bit confused. The letter says they will connect to a box on the outside of premises. I thought it was the owners choice as to whether it was inside or outside.
The letter doesn't specify indoor or outdoor ONT, which I assume is what you are talking about.
In the indoor ONT scenario, there will still be a passive box on the side of your house acting as a fibre connection point, so it may be this that they are referring to.
Also, why are they doing the connection in two stages ie external cabling and then internal cabling ? As I understand it they are both NBN tasks and not RSP.
The construction teams doing lead-ins and ONT installers are probably separate.
In the indoor ONT scenario, there will still be a passive box on the side of your house acting as a fibre connection point, so it may be this that they are referring to.
That is my concern. My house is on the boundary and so any box will have to be on the front of the property and stick out like a sore thumb.
Yeah got the letter this morning as well. It will be VERY interesting to see what they do with our apartment block � literally 3 weeks ago we only just got phone lines installed into the building.
3 years too late but at least now I'll have that backup if the NBN install doesn't go well.
The construction teams doing lead-ins and ONT installers are probably separate.
On this point, during a conversation I had with a Decon guy recently, he said that they(Decon) were definitely doing some of the lead-ins, and another contractor would do the rest.
NBNCo just sent out an update letter detailing the process to get connected. I've posted the letter in my flickr photostream for anyone who is interested:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59110820@N08/
Hmm. Curious how the letter is dated the 21st of Feb.
Oh well, this is good news. One step closer I guess.
Anyone in a multi-dwelling premises, whether they be units, apartments, or flats, able to give us a report on what's happening with their access to the NBN.
Are you in the 1st Release Site-??
These FDH cabinets are detroying the Heritage of Brunswick. I wish they would all Smartern up. Tax Payers getting grapphiti on- If someone see them please tell your local police- Unexeptable!!!
Are you in the 1st Release Site-??
If that question is for me the answer is unfortunately No :(
Still curious though.
Nice Pics � You seem to Know alot and Get around!
Well there is more comming- But not allowed to say!
Tax Payers getting grapphiti on
whatever they do to try and prevent it, it will always come back..
whatever they do to try and prevent it, it will always come back..
Exactly � the worst thing you can do is have a nice clean freshly repainted monotone surface � it will just attract new graffiti like a magnet.
Not that I mind the grafiti though � in most parts of brunswick it actually makes the fdh cabinets blend in with the scenery.
Goddamn NBN in Brunswick is expensive � AFAIK only Exetel, Internode and iPrimus offer it, and it's way more expensive than ADSL2+
Goddamn NBN in Brunswick is expensive � AFAIK only Exetel, Internode and iPrimus offer it, and it's way more expensive than ADSL2+
Do we have any pricing for NBN in Brunswick?
I tried to google and nothing was there.
All of Brunswick is pretty much covered in HFC. Most would be better going with the Optus HFC offers if it is expensive.
Goddamn NBN in Brunswick is expensive
How so? There are no ISPs hooking up customers there yet, no advertised plans to boot either.
How so? There are no ISPs hooking up customers there yet, no advertised plans to boot either.
Perhaps the poster may have been trolling?
How so? There are no ISPs hooking up customers there yet, no advertised plans to boot either.
Ah, perhaps I misread the plans and they were actually for Tassie � I was only doing a very quick search.
I'm about to move to Brunswick, so I got a little excited :P
I'm pretty sure different prices will be drawn up for the Brunswick NBN, and expect TPG to be on board as PIPE passes the area.
For now, the cheapest NBN plans are with iiNet www.iinet.net.au/nbn/
Isn't a whole page colour advertisement like $20k? So for a quarter page for that main image I should be asking $5k right?
Damn, I might need to revise that invoice!
Truth be told, I'd be happy with just getting paid our standard charges.
At least they've looked at the invoice already � I can see from our system that someone at The Age logged into our invoicing portal at 12:18pm and viewed it.
That's a start!
Expect the duct issue to be an ongoing one. The pre-terminated Corning fibre has a large terminator on it and the original design specified a minimum bending radius of the conduit of 300mm. This was 5 years ago mind and I was told they were developing a smaller terminator to make it easier. Obviously two pair copper is mush more tollerant of bending radius :)
Isn't a whole page colour advertisement like $20k? So for a quarter page for that main image I should be asking $5k right?
Whoa! Slow down cowboy. It wasn't you using the page space. You are only negotiating for the use of the image. Not what, where, how, they use it, especially in their publication. S'pose I'm saying don't put the down payment on the new flat panel TV just yet. But I will be interested in hearing what the payment is worth.
Truth be told, I'd be happy with just getting paid our standard charges.
Onya sambo9. Great work that your passion is now getting broader and broader coverage. If only you'd been attributed in the first place though.
I also imagine that some junior journo is going to get a smack on the hand from a subbie for not getting approval before uploading your photos to the article.
Onya sambo9. Great work that your passion is now getting broader and broader coverage. If only you'd been attributed in the first place though.
Exactly � it's the fact that they've just ripped them off without even a nod towards the source that's disappointing.
I deleted the The Age web app icon from my iPhone home screen earlier today in disgust.
Then I put it back again about 10 minutes later.
I'm the worst at holding grudges.
Whoa! Slow down cowboy. It wasn't you using the page space.
So I should take the 90" Plasma back to Harvey Norman? But the signs said it was a million months interest free? ;)
I was just throwing around some ridiculous figures � others whimmed me suggesting I should charge by the pixel, and another that I charge 1 cent per copy of The Age that was printed today.
Anyone recognise the photos from The Age nbn article on page 15 today? Theft I cry! They sought no permission, and have made no attribution to their correct source.
The question is, how mad should I be?
send them an invoice for $1000
http://www.theage.com.au/tec
Brunswick's network is scheduled to go live before July. It will be the only Victorian NBN site until mid-2012, when the second phase test sites of Bacchus Marsh and South Morang are activated.
send them an invoice for $1000
You do realise that Fairfax is going down the crapper financially, and that this might be a bit of a stretch? ;-)
I didn't realise that they'd resort to pinch other people's work so soon though!
Come on Brunswick rollout stage 2! I'm so near, but so far at the moment.
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Thanks for the advice rashman. I'll be interested to see if they come through with the goods.
sambo i used to work for fairfax and they usually pay up. i wouldn't sweat it to much. but hey awesome that your photos made it in the papers.
THE AGE are nothing but NBN Knockers- I suppose FAIRFAX media is running Shit scared campaing to protect the corporate world with its zillions and leave out the Average Australian on its knees who lives more than 50klm outside the major cities of Australia. THIS PROJECT IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE RAILWAY,ROAD,TELEPHONY & DAM PROJECTS THAT GALVANIZED AUSTRALIA!! *****BUILT IT AND THEY WILL COME!!!!!
I thought the article was pretty balanced � if not a little simplistic. Sure you're not mixing Fairfax with News Corp there?
Nice work on the photos Sambo � I did wonder when I saw the article :-)
Brunswick's network is scheduled to go live before July. It will be the only Victorian NBN site until mid-2012, when the second phase test sites of Bacchus Marsh and South Morang are activated.
Where did they get this info? I'm guessing pure speculation and hopefully incorrect as if it takes until mid 2012 to activate the South Morang and Bacchus Marsh sites (Initially slated for construction Q2 2011) it won't bode well for roll out timing. I would have hoped it would have gone past "trial sites" by mid 2012 or the NBN is dead in the water by next election when Abbott starts swinging his axe of negativity...
Its only Balanced in the eyes of the liberals. Any National Project can only benefit one Nation. The old telephony Network and Wireless 3G& 4G networks just dont caut it. Sure there sufficent for the time being but, expect a slowing down in the near future with multiple users and hungrier applications!
if it takes until mid 2012 to activate the South Morang and Bacchus Marsh sites (Initially slated for construction Q2 2011) it won't bode well for roll out timing. I would have hoped it would have gone past "trial sites" by mid 2012 or the NBN is dead in the water by next election when Abbott starts swinging his axe of negativity...
For this project to have enough traction to avoid the Axe of Abbott the Destroyer, it�s going to have to come up with far more results than it has currently, I wouldn�t be betting on its success, not unless you give real long odds, then I might have a dollar or two; you know that might pay for a good lunch somewhere, someday.
Do we know when this is rolling out to the rest of brunswick?
Blame the Liberals for Carving up Telstra- they are a corporation not Goverment owned. NBN wish to use the existant Vacant Underground Pipes which Telstra still has a monopoly owned portion of it. The TAX payers will save Billions if this Heads of Agreements gets signed over. Rumours are Telstra really dose not want this because if given the chance they would build a Velocity type fibre rollout and hold every Australian at ramson when they lock you in a contract. They had the same intentions some yrs back until the Goverment broke thier back dividing Wholesale and Retail Telstra divide. The GIANT WAS NO LONGER A THREAT TO THE NATIONAL NBN Solution so now its back to square one. Telstra like the others will cherry Pick and only serve themselves.(GREATER REGIONAL DIVISION). Hope this helps??
Waiting for the Construction tenders according to many.
Waiting for the Construction tenders according to many.
Can you please use the 'insert quote' button when replying so we can attempt to make sense of your posts?
Where did they get this info? I'm guessing pure speculation and hopefully incorrect as if it takes until mid 2012 to activate the South Morang and Bacchus Marsh sites (Initially slated for construction Q2 2011) it won't bode well for roll out timing.
It may be based off the construction timeline they announced for the next 7 sites in Tasmania:
Planning approvals for the initial sites have already been achieved, so Aurora will start make-ready works in early May in these sites in preparation for the fibre rollout. Construction in each location is expected to take from approximately four to six months depending on the size of the site, with services planned to be available for installation in the second half of next year. (my bold)
They have proposed at least 1 year between planning approval and service activation. If this holds true for the mainland then mid-2012 could be the best you can hope for.
but I haven't found anything around the right of access to communications (phone/internet).
I was putting out a what if as it does not effect me at the moment but it raises a few good points
If I found myself with no phone because the landlord had not agreed to nbn & the copper lines had been ripped out I could make a good argument that the lease was over & then see what the courts etc say
a lot of landlords are going to have issues down the track because as I understand it the cost of connecting later on is very high
losing the phone during a lease is one thing but who is going to move into a place with no phone � its a clause I will be adding to all future leases i sign � no phone & its godbye
the cost of connecting later on is very high
NBN Co haven't made a decision on that
By October all 2689 properties in Brunswick�s trial zone are expected to have access to the fibre optic cable network.
Roll on NBN!
http://moreland-leader.where
Roll on NBN!
http://moreland-leader.wher
the limited news mob simply can't help themselves, can they?
To date, 52 per cent of properties in the trial area have signed up for free connection to the network, far fewer than the take-up rate for other trial areas.
Whatever way they can find to bag the NBN, they'll do it.
in a test area they can but once it goes full on they will be disconnection all the copper then the fun begins
what happens if the landlord refuses to do it or ignores it? the copper gets disconnected & the tenant has no phone or internet.
NBN has legal access to the MDF. NBN does not own or has authority to rip out copper from the MDF to the unit or flat. Many units have very basic MDF's.
I was in a building today built approx year 2000. The phone patch panel was located in a fire service cupboard. No Conduit in sight. Not really enough room to add a couple of extra boxes. No power available in the cupboard. Should have taken a photo.
A tenant would have no way of demanding an upgrade of copper cable from the MDF to their unit.
what happens if the landlord refuses to do it or ignores it? the copper gets disconnected & the tenant has no phone or internet.
Hopefully they'll fix this rental issue soon. I doubt it'll affect me, my landlords seem pretty professional, but there would be a lot of other renters out there affected by this if the government doesn't address the issue. Elderly people especially, who might not have a mobile phone and rely on their landline service. Calling 000 isn't a luxury.
Zdnet have a new article up about it too:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/nbn-
A tenant would have no way of demanding an upgrade of copper cable from the MDF to their unit.
in a building around 10 years old � there are going to be a lot of problems in high rises by the look of it
in a building around 10 years old � there are going to be a lot of problems in high rises by the look of it
Once past the body corparate, it shouldn't be an issue. High rises should already have reasonably specced conduit for communications, which would also be well documented in the architectial plans.
Subdivisions however like where I live are more of a problem. A lot of DIY builders put up cheap buildings and cut corners where ever possible. No plans or drawings on where the conduit is, or even if its conduit. All i know about my phoneline, is it starts in a marked pit outside the property and it runs under the length driveway before appearing again in the stardard grey Telsta box near the ground by the entry.
Just a follow up on this topic � I got a message from Lucy Battersby (the author of the article) at The Age today � to apologise for the unauthorised usage of my photos in their publications.
It would seem the picture desk were aware of the situation, but failed to do their job in obtaining appropriate permissions before printing the article.
Thanks for the follow-up Lucy � it was much appreciated!
A further follow up to this for all that whimmed me with their kind words and support � The Age did finally make good on their payment to me for the use of my photos. It took 67 days and a lot of hassling, but we got there.
All this talk of body corporate and tenant issues for unit blocks has me worried. I live if a block of units (owner). Can I get it without everyone else wanting it? We have a body corporate would it be put to a vote?
There are a lot of older people and I doubt they would see a need for it, will this reduce my chances? Anyone on WP who is in a block of units and went through this? (BTW, I'm not in a rollout area, this is just for my knowledge).
People are mentioning 18months before the copper is decomissioned, would this be the longest time to wait?
Oops, nvm.
But I'm a bit unsure of who to follow up with
contact NBN Co and go from there
I'm in Brunswick, Blair St � and just got hooked up to the NBN today (Friday 19th) via Iinet on their trial.
Speedtest.net is saying I'm hitting about 92Mbps down, and about 25Mbps up... so no complaints there :)
I haven't really had too much in the way of communications from Iinet, they just sent me an email offering me a spot on the trial (after I expressed my interest some months earlier), and booked an NBN Co tech to come and do the installation today.
Presumably subject to a successful pilot, I'll get kicked off the trial and over to the retail service where I'll start getting billed... no idea when that will be.
Anyway, no complaints here � after 10 years of following the broadband debate in Australia, I feel like I just hit the jackpot!
Congrats froowstie,wonderful news.
Our office got connected early last week, or late week before. Not entirely sure as I've been on paternity leave, hence my reduced activity on WP of recent times.
Was in the office briefly today and did some testing � 95Mbps down and 38Mbps up, consistently. 2 to 3ms ping. Source/sink was our servers in Sydney equinix datacentre.
Pretty much bang-on the throughput figures I was expecting � a 5% TCP/IP overhead sounds about right to me. May be able to squeeze a bit more out by changing some TCP/IP parameters.
Fantastic stuff. Will be back at work fulltime in about a week, and will post some more detailed test results then.
Our office got connected early last week, or late week before.
I thought they weren't doing commerical buildings/shops. Only residential for the trial.
I thought they weren't doing commerical buildings/shops.
There doesn't appear to be any restrictions on the type of premises connected; I know Internode has connected quite a few businesses to the First Release trial.
Nope, check my edited post above.
so where I said in my earlier post, I want to know where it will be. There was no map in January as stated by NBN (well at least I can't see any maps beyond the trial site)
Again, no information, NBN Co are doing a poor job communicating to people IMO
Yes but it is indicative only.
Okay, I'm intepreting this to mean...
"Yes, the map/s should have been released.
But the map (when it comes out) will be indicative only."
Again, no information, NBN Co are doing a poor job communicating to people IMO
Did you read the disclaimer in the .pdf?
Okay, I'm intepreting this to mean...
The maps and dates are indicative only.
Again, no information, NBN Co are doing a poor job communicating to people IMO
Totally agree.
I've been following the Brunswick progress too because I live there. There is a serious case of lack of communication and possibly too much planning and not enough doing.
If I'm LOOKING for information and can't find any what about the people who aren't looking? It's no wonder the take-up percentage is so poor.
not enough doing.
That's because the next module is due to start in March..
The maps and dates are indicative only
Back to the question, which you retracted your answer to.
Where is the map associated with the information you provided?
1st module start work = December 2011
1st module detailed map = January 2012
Where is the map associated with the information you provided?
No idea, maybe NBN Co will release it with the 3 year plan.
Did you read the disclaimer in the .pdf?
almost don't have to, it's the same as any disclaimer, that here is the information, but we don't want to be sued so don't believe us.
so can you tell your managers at the NBN to provide an update for ANYTHING? ;-)
this is the problem, I'm not really sure what you're angle is...???
all I'm getting is you're trying to pick holes at my suggestion that we don't have any solid information about the biggest thing to happen in public internet infrastructure ever...!!!
so can you tell your managers at the NBN to provide an update for ANYTHING? ;-)
I don't work for them..
I do work for them though...
We're releasing the three year plan soon which will help.
I should point out that all of our maps are indicative only and sometimes we bundle the maps together so publishing can sometimes be delayed. Sorry about that.
not enough doing.
That's because the next module is due to start in March..
I'm not (only) talking about the actual product delivery, anyone who works in projects knows that there is more to it than just delivering the end product, and a huge part is user engagement.
You can't deliver a project without an engaged user base.... well you can, but it will just fall on its a$$.
I should point out that all of our maps are indicative only and sometimes we bundle the maps together so publishing can sometimes be delayed. Sorry about that.
that's fine....thank you! :-)
We're releasing the three year plan soon which will help.
God. It's going to be hard to bear if I'm not on it. I can't be in 2015 on a 3.5mbit connection.
It's going to be hard to bear if I'm not on it. I can't be in 2015 on a 3.5mbit connection.
Agreed.
nvm
NBN Co Truck � Brunswick, Victoria
22nd and 23rd February 2012.
Location: Barkly Square Shopping Centre Car Park, 90 � 106 Sydney Rd, Brunswick, Victoria
http://nbnco.com.au/news-and
http://nbnco.com.au/news-and
Saw the NBN Truck today so dropped in � it was ok, not really what I expected but probably worth a look especially for those into the more technical side of things that want to see the boxes etc
Anyways � told the guy I live across the road from the current Brunswick test site and asked if he could give me an indication of when it would expand. Soon was the answer but basically just the same info as on the website � 2700 can be connected now, expanding to over 13000 shortly. He couldn't say which direction the next stages would be in but said it was good to be close to an existing area � so that's encouraging
I also asked about NBN in apartment blocks � he said they are rolling out in a test block in Melbourne so hopefully that goes well and they'll roll into more shortly.
Anyways, it's worth a visit if you're close by
I also walked by the NBN Truck today, didn't see inside but did ask the woman outside about the rollout.
She told me she believes the next Brunswick rollout will be adjoining the current area but only to the west of Lygon St. The area to the east of Lygon St would probably be started later. However it may be a few weeks yet until that's confirmed and announced.
but I'm still not convinced they'll be able to do an install (in a MDU). Wait and see I guess
First MDU's to be completed in June. No long to wait now.
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Thanks Remode, very useful.
I hope they don't come knocking while I am away for 6 weeks on holiday later this year!
update this morning, saw some workmen on my street taking photo's of the comm's pit outside my house! Ute with "Optic Energi" on the side of it at the corner of Barry and Munro streets in with witches hats out on the footpath
NBNCO are running a info stand Saturday, 2 June 9-12noon at Barkley Square. Brunswick.
Hopefully they can prompt a few more signups.
NBNCO are running a info stand Saturday, 2 June 9-12noon at Barkley Square. Brunswick.
Here is the advert from Melbourne Leader : http://db.tt/cGrUrFHH
Here is the advert from Melbourne Leader : http://db.tt/cGrUrFHH
I also got a similar pamphlet in the mail. I'll be there and be square!
I know a number of people have asked about this previously in this thread, so here is the good news:
Brunswick has its first NBN connected cafe with free wifi! I stumbled upon it this morning, just make a purchase over $5, and you're on.
I think they're on the 100/40 Mbps service, so it's a great way to experience NBN first hand. BYO laptop of course.
I was able to get 65mbps down, 25mbps up on speedtest.net this morning.
The place: Hungry Birds � Ground floor, 242 Victoria St Brunswick.
It's only small, and has limited seating so there may be a wait for a table at peak times (like this morning).
Food is a mix of mexican/italian � hueveos rancheros and coffee suited me just fine!
Enjoy!
Conroy was there too;
http://artworld.tv/news/
I moved into Brunswick 2 weeks ago and I'm loving my NBN.
Anyone in the brunswick area have any luck connecting an Apple Extreme to the NBN?
I currently have the supplied BigPond Netgear Router but wanted to connect my Apple Extreme instead as the speeds are not sufficient to what i have currently and wanted to see if the Extreme would be any better. I have tried connecting the Apple but have had no luck. Almost seems that the Netgrear has put a lock.
I'm very interested to know if anyone has had any luck and could point me in the right direction.
wanted to see if the Extreme would be any better.
The Apple Airport Extreme gets great speeds.
http://digitaldreamer.com.au
I'm very interested to know if anyone has had any luck and could point me in the right direction.
Anyone in the brunswick area have any luck connecting an Apple Extreme to the NBN?
Hi robcarlo,
Yes, the airport extreme is an excellent device, and will let you get full speed from your NBN connection. We use them on a few of our NBN services, and they are rock solid � never need to reboot them.
You'll just need to connect port 1 of your NTU to the wan port of your airport extreme(the wan port is labelled with a little circle on airport extreme).
I'd then login to your airport extreme and reset it to factory defaults, and follow the wizard to set it up afresh.
If you're with internode, telsta, or most other RSPs, you'll need to set up wan port as PPPoE connection(with your internode username and password), if you're with iinet you'll need to set up wan port as dhcp, no username or password required.
Good luck, it's worth it. And don't worry, I don't believe your service can be locked to only allow your netgear.
Block of flats at the end of Aberdeen Street (off Victoria Street) had NBN equipment installed last week; parts of it still being checked this week. Residents were given no information whatsoever about what was happening. Certainly renters were not consulted, and the body corporate management would only say that a majority of the owners had agreed to the installation.
The PCDs have been installed at knee level close beside the door of each flat, even on the upper balconies only a little over 80 cm wide, with the PCD projecting 8 cm into that space.It would take some manoeuvring to get a refrigerator on a trolley past without knocking them. Is this the standard position for them to be set? If so, why so low?
Some elderly residents are expressing concern about the yellow hazard labels on the PCDs which seem to suggest one should keep at least a metre away from them. That may well not be so but the 'Team Antennas' workmen doing the installation were unwilling to answer questions.
A couple of people were convinced the PCD was monitoring their movements in and out of their front door, and said they felt like prisoners under surveillance in their own homes. While this will undoubtedly seem like paranoia to readers of this thread, fears about unexplained hazards need to be addressed.
These flats all have a similar layout, with only one power-point in the living-room. In my flat both it and the fixed line telephone connection are on the wall diagonally opposite the front door. With the PCD being on the far side of the door. I can't envisage how my current ADSL+ set-up could be connected without extensive and intrusive electrical work.
Is anyone else facing similar problems?
Optic Energy were testing conduits pulling rope through on Barkly ST today opposite the West entrace on Barkly of Barkly Square.
Yes, the airport extreme is an excellent device, and will let you get full speed from your NBN connection.
Sambo. Once again you have out done yourself. Got my apple extreme connected and the difference is 3x the speed. It shows that Routers do indeed differ from each other, but more importantly i now have full signal coverage right across 3 levels of my house. Thanks again.
Wahoo, the next Brunswick module has appeared on the NBN rollout map � including Brunswick East and my house.
the next Brunswick module has appeared on the NBN rollout map
Yes � areas north of Glenlyon road now showing as 'work commenced'. Not that I have seen any activity yet in this area.
Earlier in this thread people were wondering how NBN would be installed in multi-unit dwellings (MUDs).
The body corporate at 11 Aberdeen Street may not have been aware they were being asked to be guinea-pigs, but as this installation is tagged MUD001, I suspect this may in fact be the first.
The clumsy result can be seen externally by anyone who cares to look.
In general the take-up of NBN in this street and along the stretch of Victoria Street between Lygon Street and Sydney Road appears to be minimal, with the notable exception of the Hungry Birds cafe.
The body corporate at 11 Aberdeen Street may not have been aware they were being asked to be guinea-pigs, but as this installation is tagged MUD001, I suspect this may in fact be the first.
What sort of age is this building? Buildings of different eras will require different treatments. The hybrid ones ie old warehouse recycled as housing will be the most difficult. ie Something like the old red tulip building in Prahran which contains many surprises.
Your post isn't really on topic. But I agree that the roll out doesn't seem to be progressing at 6,000 hook ups a day in Brunswick. Seems to be more a handful a day. But I do not know much about laying cable and the roll out may magically speed up over the coming 12 months.
But I agree that the roll out doesn't seem to be progressing at 6,000 hook ups a day in Brunswick.
The 6000 connections per day from memory was forecast to be achieved in 2016,
However given that NBN Co now have access to Telstra's pits and ducts following on from the 9 month delay in getting an agreement in place then I'm sure that whatever schedule was planned for Brunswick will proceed far more quickly than if NBN Co had to build and install its own pits and ducts to roll fibre out not only in Brunswick but across the length and breadth of the Nation.
Cheers
Your post isn't really on topic. But I agree that the roll out doesn't seem to be progressing at 6,000 hook ups a day in Brunswick. Seems to be more a handful a day. But I do not know much about laying cable and the roll out may magically speed up over the coming 12 months.
NBNCo. have only JUST begun to ramp up rollout last month.
By early 2015 they'll be hitting 5000 houses a day. By late 2016 it'll be 6000.
I'm on Fenwick Street, just off Rathdowne (carlton nth). There's been trucks laying a thick blue cable for a couple of days now. Daly's Traffic guys and trucks with Citipower | Powercor on them. I also spotted them doing something similar up Amess Street yesterday.
The interesting thing is my street (Fenwick) is 100m south of the 'Work Commenced' area on the rollout map (the southern boundary is Macpherson St.
I won't get my hopes up too high though..
Is the thick blue cable the fibre? Does anyone have photos of what the spools actually look like?
Looks like the fibre is green:
http://nbnco.com.au/blog/gal
Amess St had a large City-Brunswick High Voltage under ground cable installed about 2 months ago. What you're seeing may be something to do with that?
Yeah there has been a lot of electricity work going on. Hrmm it was blue like some of those pics, they that states it is meant to be green. Interesting.
sambo put these up on page 5 of this thread. even the papers used one of them.
http://www.flickr.com/photos
sambo put these up on page 5 of this thread. even the papers used one of them.
If I'm not mistaken, that may have been before they chose ribbon cable, which is green, as this was the trials.
It could also be bundled backhaul fibre though too.
Does anyone know if they switch cable on as they go or zone by zone???
I'm on the other side of Lygon Street to the original rollout and there were some guys in the doing some work out the front the other morning. Not sure if they were NBN or not but they were working with cables under the Telstra covers.
Does anyone know if they switch cable on as they go or zone by zone???
Hi Womble,
NBN Co start connecting End Users on a Rollout Region by Rollout Region basis.
Here is a map of the Rollout Regions (FSAMs) in the Brunswick Fibre Serving Area:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
Here are the Expected dates of Ready For Service for each FSAM:
3BRU-01
Ready
3BRU-02
Apr-2013
3BRU-03
Apr-2013
3BRU-04
3Q-2013
3BRU-05
3Q-2013
3BRU-06
3Q-2013
Thanks, Aaron
thanks Aaron. so close but yet so far
Seen on the street AM Today : 3 Telstra guys scouting around Brunswick Rd/ Nicholson St / Barkly St � East Brunswick.
Laptop and some sort of fibre optic cable with a pink 20 port adaptor board on the end of it.
I'm in a MDU in the initial 3BRU-01 zone. We had internal building fibre installed about 2 months ago and we're now waiting for the connection into the units and end-point boxes to be installed.
Any idea how long this is likely to take or is it just a matter of waiting until the installers are available?
....
Here are the Expected dates of Ready For Service for each FSAM:
Thanks for that. So it looks like I have to wait another 8 months for the rollout in my area to be done, damn.
I just bought in, and shorty will be moving to, Brunswick West. At last check the part I'm headed to hadn't started any work and was a little bit of doing it. Pretty exciting though :)
Better look up some plans!
Saw http://casatel.com.au/ Techs installing a large cable through the pits on Rathdown St this morning (Carlton North) But on the end near Brunswick Road. May be NBN Related? They had Maps/Plans in hand. About 6 guys.
A Fibre splicing van is working today (Sunday) on the corner of Amess St and Fenwick St, Carlton North.
There has been a lot of rope being pulled through the Telstra pits in Carlton north over the last week.
The Van today is about 1 block South (City Side) out of the current Brunswick / Carlton North rollout area on the NBN 3 year map.
Could this be a backhall link. Or the natural progression of the Rollout toward the Carlton / CBD area.
I'm hoping they'll start working on Victoria Street soon, we're so close!
Nothing short of the end of days will pry the NBN connection away from my cold dead hands.
A Fibre splicing van is working today (Sunday) on the corner of Amess St and Fenwick St, Carlton North.
Haha, I can see that corner from my window!
Oh I see him, just round on Amess. Blue cables � someone said that's backhaul right?
Sucks being 1 block south of the area, but perhaps its not that accurate and we'll be hooked up soon...
You nearby too mavrick?
Alot of people don't have the first three choices
how many people our of our 22mil is "alot"?
Alot actually do....and you bitch about Brunswick. Where I live in the Brunswick rollout zone, I don't have all 3. I don't whinge, but Brunswick is hardly the broadband epicentre
I love how all these people in Brunswick are so frustrated and anxious about getting their NBN connections. I guess when you only have such poor choices as Cable, ADSL2 and 4G � life must be so hard.
Alot of people don't have the first three choices.
I have ADSL2+ but get max 5mbit
There's foxtel running in the street but my unit block (16 units) are not backboned.
No idea about 4G, but 3G is max 1-2 bars on my iphone day in day out.
Brunswick West on the Western side of the hill here (look down on Moonee Valley Racecourse).
Living closer to the city does not mean it's all roses.
No idea about 4G
I've actually been using vividwireless's "4G" wimax since I moved into this apartment in the brunswick zone couple of months ago (waiting for NBN, no point getting adsl in) � its quite decent, syncs up at about 6mbs which is comparible to the majority of adsl services, like 80ms latency, it's more expensive for data then adsl but literally half the price of the telstra 4G alternative
its quite decent, syncs up at about 6mbs which is comparible to the majority of adsl services, like 80ms latency, it's more expensive for data then adsl but literally half the price of the telstra 4G alternative
and if you were willing to go for Telstra's 4G, I just did a test from my house, I'm just off Grantham St
Latest update for Edward St (b/w Sydney & Lygon St) is we received the back haul notice from the NBN contractor (Transfield). Basically it informs the resident there will be disruptions from late November to late December while they install the fibres along the roadway.
After all the other preparation it looks like a March 2013 start date for 3BRU-03 may be pretty accurate.
After all the other preparation it looks like a March 2013 start date for 3BRU-03 may be pretty accurate.
Thanks for the update!
I live on Union St in Brunswick (close to Jewell station) and we've had workers installing cable and updating/cleaning the pits up and down the street for the past few weeks. I jumped online to see if I could find anything interesting, which I could not, however I did find this 'Register your interest' form from Optus
http://personal.optus.com.au
I tried it a couple of times and kept getting an error message so I called Optus. I was told by the Optus rep that Union st would not be getting NBN because the Optus cable infrastructure in the street is so good that NBN decided they would not need to install NBN infrastructure in the street.
I told him that that was an outright lie and that I had seen the workers laying new cable up and down the street with my own eyes.
He just replied that he was repeating what he had been told by head office!
I told him that I would not be transferring over to a cable service.
Sounds like they are trying to 'trick' people into signing a 2 year contract just months before NBN is delivered.
Sounds like they are trying to 'trick' people into signing a 2 year contract just months before NBN is delivered.
It sure sounds like it. We'll be seeing lots more of this behavior as the NBN progresses.
4G Wireless- Try it in 2yrs time when every man and his dog is on it- NBN Fibre is the way to go!
and if you were willing to go for Telstra's 4G, I just did a test from my house, I'm just off Grantham St
http://www.speedtest.net/result/2286853781.png
No denying thats mighty impressive!!
My only issue with the main telcos 4G offerings as a replacement for fixed line broadband is the tiny/expensive data quotas. Vividwireless offer unlimited data for 80$ a month on a 12month contract or 30$ a week for no contract.
Sounds like they are trying to 'trick' people into signing a 2 year contract just months before NBN is delivered.
May be it's time for the ACCC people to step in.
I actually received a call from the NBN operations support team yesterday reporting that the hold up was due to an issue found when they were testing. .
They reported that hopefully it will be fixed in the next few weeks, then with a bit of luck I'll get one of those magic little boxes too.
For anyone interested, called NBN this morning and they reported the address is now serviceable. Huzzah!
How long has it taken from calling an ISP to getting the NTU installed for folks?
Brunswick Fibre Serving Area
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
- 3BRU-01 Ready: Brunswick
- 3BRU-02 Jun-2013: Brunswick, Parkville
- 3BRU-03 Jun-2013: Brunswick, Brunswick East
- 3BRU-04 Jul-2013: Brunswick East
- 3BRU-05 Sep-2013: Carlton North, Princes Hill
- 3BRU-06 Sep-2013: Brunswick West, Parkville
Expected dates of Construction Commence
http://www.nbnco.co
Brunswick, Brunswick East, Brunswick West, Carlton North, Parkville, Princes Hill
- 3BRU-## Mar-2013
Carlton Fibre Serving Area
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
- 3CTN-04 Nov-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-06 Nov-2013: Melbourne
- 3CTN-07 Nov-2013: Carlton
Expected dates of Construction Commence
http://www.nbnco.co
3CTN
- 3CTN-## Feb-2013
- 3CTN-## Feb-2013
- 3CTN-## Apr-2013
- 3CTN-## Jul-2013
Brunswick Fibre Serving Area
http://www.nbnco.com.au/ass
Not sure if you're up with the latest down there at skymesh, but the Nov schedule is now available.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
Got a householder from Transfield today saying construction of the NBN will commence in my area from November and should be complete by Feb 2013 � it's getting closer :)
I'm on Lygon across the road from the original trial area � rollout area 03 from memory
Does anyone know how they are progressing with apartment blocks???
Does anyone know how they are progressing with apartment blocks???
Slowly. I'm in the initial rollout zone in Brunswick in an apartment and still no dice. Had a flurry of activity about 2 months ago (installation to building, and runs to each apartment) however it's been silent from NBN since. Only thing Skymesh could tell me was something vaguely about approvals :(
thanks JayQ � not good :(
you would think apartment blocks would be a quick way to boost numbers and would be a priority in some ways
you would think apartment blocks would be a quick way to boost numbers and would be a priority in some ways
The reality of dealing with all the different owners, renters, and bodies corporate means it's just about the slowest way to boost numbers. Sad but true.
I'm curious to see what happens when they reach my house. We're in a terrace but all seperate titles. Should be the same as any other dwelling, no?
yeh its a bit crap :|
They must have already gotten strata approvals since the installs to the building and to an external point for each apartment has been done.
My guess is that the NBNCo are getting the individual approvals from each owner to do the internal installs, but instead of doing them 1 at a time, are waiting for approval from all the apartment owners, so they can get their contractor in for a single job to do all the work instead of adhoc/piecemeal 1 apartment at a time.
Was told end of Oct when I first applied, now its not looking like it'll happen until the new year *sad panda*
My guess is that the NBNCo are getting the individual approvals from each owner to do the internal installs, but instead of doing them 1 at a time, are waiting for approval from all the apartment owners, so they can get their contractor in for a single job to do all the work instead of adhoc/piecemeal 1 apartment at a time.
I guess that makes sense. Sucks all the same. How frequently have you been harassing ISP's about getting connected?
Big glowing green cables being put in the ground this morning. Barkly Street, Brunswick East.
Location : http://goo.gl/maps/fPxeU
If only they would go up to Moreland rd!
Big glowing green cables being put in the ground this morning. Barkly Street, Brunswick East.
Location : http://goo.gl/maps/fPxeU
Yep looks like more work this morning too.
http://postimg.com/image/102
I'm in the 3BRU-07 � Brunswick West area which looks like wont be connected until the 1st quarter 2014 so looks like after the election. If that's the case and the election goes the way that it is, would it be likely that work in the area will stop?
EDIT: Updated using the revised February release of the Monthly Ready For Service Rollout Plan.
Brunswick Fibre Serving Area (3BRU)
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
- 3BRU-01 Ready: Brunswick
- 3BRU-02 Jun-2013: Brunswick, Parkville
- 3BRU-03 31-May-2013: Brunswick, Brunswick East
- 3BRU-04 Jul-2013: Brunswick East
- 3BRU-05 Jul-2013: Carlton North, Princes Hill
- 3BRU-06 Sep-2013: Brunswick West, Parkville
- 3BRU-07 Feb-2014: Brunswick West
- 3BRU-08 Feb-2014: Brunswick
Carlton Fibre Serving Area (3CTN)
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
- 3CTN-01 Dec-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-02 Jan-2014: Carlton
- 3CTN-04 Nov-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-06 Nov-2013: Melbourne
- 3CTN-07 Aug-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-08 Feb-2014: Carlton North
Expected dates of Construction Commence
http://www.nbnco.co
Parkville
- 3CTN-## Jan-2013
- 3CTN-## Feb-2013
- 3CTN-## Mar-2013
There was a company this morning (maybe Opticomm?) on the south side of Union St near Jewell station going up the foot path with a big concrete-cutting saw, it looks like they are going up the length of the street from cable pit to cable pit.
I'm not sure why they are doing this, I saw them putting the cable into the pits up the street 6 months ago.
Lots of activity in the Smith, Albert and Pearson street ( I live on Hunter) A company called cobdain? anyone know if this is the NBN or not? They are laying cables of some description? Also how long after they lay the cables do they take to come and install the boxes?
Also how long after they lay the cables do they take to come and install the boxes?
I've been waiting for 6 months.... don't expect anything to happen quickly.
I haven't seen any activity on my street at all since they put the cables in 6 months ago; according to the plans I go live in May.
There was a company this morning (maybe Opticomm?) on the south side of Union St near Jewell station going up the foot path with a big concrete-cutting saw, it looks like they are going up the length of the street from cable pit to cable pit.
False alarm, it looks like (smells like) the holes they were digging up had something to do with the plumbing on the street.
False alarm, it looks like (smells like) the holes they were digging up had something to do with the plumbing on the street.
IPoS � IP over sewer. :)
I haven't seen any activity on my street at all since they put the cables in 6 months ago; according to the plans I go live in May.
Your right though, there is certainly Fibre in the ground, around the East Brunswick area running through Carlton North toward the city down Amess St. This was done over 6 months ago � Around June 2012.
The "Ready for Service" Dates for Brunswick areas have been pushed back from March 13, to June 13. We've seen action in terms of cables in the ground, but they are not popping their heads up to connect the properties they pass.
The "Ready for Service" Dates for Brunswick areas have been pushed back from March 13, to June 13.
But we the neighbours in Princes Hill are also on the BRUK exchange and, IIRC, our dates have been brought forward from September also to June.
Ready to start looking for an RSP!
Just wondering who provides NBN internet service in 3BRU-01 area? it seems many major ISPs are not ready yet.
Not sure what's exactly happening here. One Telstra/NBN person came to my house (Evans Street) this morning and said I need to transfer my phone to NBN asap. I don't really care about phone line as I use VoIP. All I need is to access the internet. I am currently with TPG and happy with what I have.
Now Transfield has letterboxed us in Princes Hill with a note on cable-pulling and the rest.
Cue the Ponter Sisters: "I'm so excited!"
Go princes hill. time to get a ASUS RT-AC66U to celebrate.
No Fibre as yet but Natural Gas overhaul- I must admit NBN is comming in this Region! I planned it 12months back!
Get it you wont look back � Its like a Sceen from Stars wars when you hit lightspeed!!
Bit of action in the Nicholson St (Carlton North) village today, new Pits being installed in the sidewalk.
Nicholson Street previously had rope pulled through the pits, circa June 12.
Saw a NBN coming to your street soon postcard the other day aswell.
Noticed some green cable action on Garton St Princes Hill on my morning run this morning for anyone interested!
Anyone know where the actual boundaries of 3-BRU-05 & 3-CTN-08 actually are?
I'm in the area of Rathdowne village, east of the cemetery and if I look at this
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
The block to the east of the cemetery is not particularly clear as to which of the rollout areas it is in.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
Would make it look like the 3-BRU-05 block southern boundary lines up with the cemetery boundary....
But the interactive map has shown this block under construction with delivery within the next year for a fair time � the 1 year timeframe will pass if it is CTON-08.
I'm guessing the logic is probably that if you were formerly served by the Carlton exchange you'll be in 3-CTN-08, while the Brunswick exchange served those in 3-BRU-## areas, but given exchange locations will be different, I'm not convinced.
I'm in the area of Rathdowne village, east of the cemetery
Hi write_my_name,
That area is part of the 3CTN-08 Rollout Region (FSAM).
But the interactive map has shown this block under construction with delivery within the next year for a fair time � the 1 year timeframe will pass if it is CTON-08.
The 12-month figure you are quoting is just the expected average for each FSAM over three years. Not all FSAMs will take 12 months. In any case, the 13 months for 3CTN-08 (Jan-2013 to Feb-2014) is not far from the expected average.
I'm guessing the logic is probably that if you were formerly served by the Carlton exchange you'll be in 3-CTN-08
Fibre Serving Area (FSA) boundaries don't necessarily follow Exchange Service Area (ESA) boundaries but, in this case, it appears that all premises in the Carlton ESA (CTON) will be served by the Carlton FSA (3CTN).
Thanks, Aaron
Aaron,
Sorry to post in the Brunswick thread but I'm unable to
PM you to ask this.
Does Skymesh have plans to service the South Morang POI soon? I have some relatives that wish to sign up but it doesn't appear you are available in the area yet.
We really appreciate your regular construction updates you post in the forum and would love to see some in the South Morang thread soon.
THere has definitely been actiivity, they've been digging up footpaths and installing FSAN cabinets. A few went in just a couple of weeks ago and a new foundation has gone in that I observed in the last week. The bit I am missing is any tails going into houses which would be a big time consuming job.
Looks like if the Liberals win, I hope they don't � the building I'm in will be stuck with HFC if I don't get the NBN by June like I'm meant to.
Count yourself lucky, you're one of the few with access even to HFC � which can give you 100Mbps speed already! I live in Carlton North, where there is no HFC and the best speed I can get on ADSL2+ is an unreliable 5Mbps :(
THere has definitely been actiivity, they've been digging up footpaths and installing FSAN cabinets
What is a FSAN cabinet?
I live on Union st and as I type, right out the front of my house, a gang from NBN Co. are digging up the nature strip, laying PVC pipe and installing an upright that has been fenced off and prepped for (I assume) some sort of cabinet.
What is a FSAN cabinet?
It's a exciting beige cabinet, often adorned with a black "Tag" of a local artist. About 800mm high.
They installed one last week near corner Brunswick Road and Truscott St, Brunswick East.
I'm trying to work out if I am, or am not, within the upcoming Brunswick West roll-out area. I've received conflicting info.
As of last year, the NBN site told me that my address was in the one-year-plan zone. However as of recently, the vague one-year-plan markers have disappeared from the map, and have been replaced by a higher-resolution orange colour overlay.
The problem here is that the orange overlay only goes as far north as Hope Street, and I live beyond Albion Street. What does this mean?
Thanks in advance
that the orange overlay only goes as far north as Hope Street, and I live beyond Albion Street. What does this mean?
Unfortunately that means your area is currently not in the rollout plans.
Unfortunately that means your area is currently not in the rollout plans.
Oh man.. I hope that isn't true :(
Why would they say the whole postcode is getting it, then only roll-out to half of it?
Why would they say the whole postcode is getting it, then only roll-out to half of it?
In established areas, the rollout is generally following Telstra exchange boundaries. The Brunswick and Carlton exchange areas are (mostly) migrating, the Moreland exchange (where you probably are) isn't.
Brunswick Fibre Serving Area (3BRU)
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
(Planned Greenfields Fibre not included.)
- 3BRU-01 Ready: Brunswick
- 3BRU-02 06-Jul-2013: Brunswick, Parkville
- 3BRU-03 15-Jun-2013: Brunswick, Brunswick East
- 3BRU-04 Aug-2013: Brunswick East
- 3BRU-05 Aug-2013: Carlton North, Princes Hill
- 3BRU-06 Oct-2013: Brunswick West, Parkville
- 3BRU-07 Feb-2014: Brunswick West
- 3BRU-08 Feb-2014: Brunswick
Carlton Fibre Serving Area (3CTN)
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
(Planned Greenfields Fibre not included.)
- 3CTN-01 Dec-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-02 Jan-2014: Carlton
- 3CTN-03 Apr-2014: Parkville
- 3CTN-04 Oct-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-05 2Q-2014: Carlton
- 3CTN-06 Feb-2014: Melbourne
- 3CTN-07 Oct-2013: Carlton
- 3CTN-08 Feb-2014: Carlton North
NBN Co wants to expand Early Access program to cover an additional 82 FSAMs to increase number of active connections. Residents not having to wait until infrastructure in an entire FSAM is complete to being declared 'ready for service'.
The FSAMs in Brunswick that NBN Co hopes ACCC to open for 'early access' are
3BRU-03
3BRU-04
3BRU-05
3BRU-06
Source: IT News NBN Co to fast-track more users onto fibre
In established areas, the rollout is generally following Telstra exchange boundaries. The Brunswick and Carlton exchange areas are (mostly) migrating, the Moreland exchange (where you probably are) isn't.
Ah.. Yeah, you're right, I'm on the Moreland exchange. Although by "on", I mean "barely on"; ADSL throughput is terrible.
From what I can tell, the Moreland end of Brunswick isn't even on the 3 year plan. I'm so sad now :(
The FSAMs in Brunswick that NBN Co hopes ACCC to open for 'early access' are
3BRU-03
3BRU-04
3BRU-05
3BRU-06
Thanks. Does this mean anything for MDUs? I'm willing to badger my body corporate if it means a quicker connection:p (3BRU-03).
3BRU-02 06-Jul-2013: Brunswick, Parkville
Seriously, it's been pushed back to July now?? Every month an update gets released it gets pushed further and further back. It was meant to be ready for service by February :\
It was meant to be ready for service by February :\
Yep, they're a bit all over the place :( Carlton North was originally September � then updated to July and now it's back to August again.
Thanks. Does this mean anything for MDUs? I'm willing to badger my body corporate if it means a quicker connection:p (3BRU-03).
It presumably means that the design process for the MDU can start earlier. Is your OC registered with NBNCo? (The committee may appreciate you volunteering ;-))
Early Access Program sounds promising, surely they build outwards from the current areas???
Early Access Program sounds promising, surely they build outwards from the current areas???
+1 and hopefully that's true, at least to some extent.
Anyone got a link to moar info on the Early Access Program? Done some searching but can't find many details.
NBN workers in Osborne Street Brunswick this morning digging into Telstra pits. NBN guys quoted 9 months before we will be connected and will not be disrupted by by any change in government in September. What a relief. This is in 3BRU-08.
Big white van with Green Fibre running out the back (Splicing van?) Cnr Stranger and Brunswick Road this morning (Saturday), and on Ewing Street yesterday.
Crews cutting and digging up Park St and markings on pavement along Nicholson St / Canning St Carlton North for the past week.
Big white van with Green Fibre running out the back (Splicing van?) Cnr Stranger and Brunswick Road this morning (Saturday), and on Ewing Street yesterday.
Noticed them there too on my run this morning. There's also another van on the corner of Park and Stranger streets just down from the first one. I was surprised to see them working on a weekend, really early too (~7:45AM). It's great to see!
Ok thanks for the clarification. Would it be best to contact body corporate to find out when they are planning the rollout?
Would it be best to contact body corporate to find out when they are planning the rollout?
I suggest finding out what stage you are in and then keeping an eye on the NBN Rollout Map. NBN Co will update the map after it starts construction on your particular development stage. It will update the map again once your stage is ready for service.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/when
It can't hurt to ask the body corporate what they know about the rollout.
Cheers. I'm in the 3BRU-02 area, which should all be ready by June according to the list (would be a nice birthday present to get fibre :P)
I'm in the 3BRU-02 area
Just to be clear, I have been discussing the rollout of Greenfields Fibre to the "Parkville Apartments" development which you originally quoted. I have not been discussing the rollout of Brownfields Fibre to any other apartments in the suburb of Parkville.
Whilst not directly related to the NBN install, these seminars are being run in Brunswick. Hope they inspire some local businesses to take up a NBN connection in a couple of months, and get with the tech.
http://digitalenterprisedecl
Fibre going in down Truscott Street
http://postimg.com/141
Anyone had a knock on the door to install the socket yet?
Anyone had a knock on the door to install the socket yet?
Not me. I've had the FSAM box sitting out the front of my house on union st for over 3 weeks now and haven't seen any activity since it was installed.
Fibre going in down Truscott Street
http://postimg.com/1
Thanks, but seems to be rod/roping, fibre will come later.
I did drive past Sydney Rd and Brunswick streets today and there had HUGE rolls of green cable they where feeding into the ground. So I guess they are busy doing something.
this is good news
http://www.itnews.com.au/Ne
Very good news!
Aaron from Skymesh, what does this mean for Brunswick West BRU-06?
Great to see all that Work going on in my lovely Suburb that I have lived here all my life. The NBN will play a significant Role for all who need Fater Broadband applications in all aspects of Work and life Style.
what does this mean for Brunswick West BRU-06?
Hi Yapa,
It means that FDAs in that FSAM can potentially be released early by NBN Co. Such a change would appear in upcoming releases of the Monthly Ready For Service Rollout Plan (Early Access Brownfields).
Thanks, Aaron
Laying the green fibre cable by hand (feed and pull) today in Canning Street, Carlton North. It's getting closer.
Not sure if people are aware of this site... somebody forwarded to me, so I thought might be useful for others. http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/search/brunswick
Lots of spray-painted codes on the pavement outside the house now!
Green Fibre going in the ground today � Corner Brunswick Road and Nicholson St.
But still..... no one has had a knock on the door.
But still..... no one has had a knock on the door.
Which is not a good sign, still a few months for us in these areas then...
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