Once again � love your work jxeeno. :)
+ inf
Succeeding where NBNCo fails!
In order to fail, first one must try!
So when i punch my addy into this for 4KLG-07 i am getting FTTP not FTTN?
So when i punch my addy into this for 4KLG-07 i am getting FTTP not FTTN?
That would be correct. 4KLG-07 is part of the current FTTP rollout
The only exception that might fall out of the FTTP rollout would be apartment / units with ~100 premises within this FSAM. They might be considered for FTTB (Fibre to the Building).
Visit mynbn.info
Little late to this, NBN hasn't shown me anything and only now found this.
Oh no, we were unable to locate your address under the fibre build commenced or active footprints.
That's what I get first hit for my address. Nearby suburb shows the previous 3 year plan for FSA with Q2 2015. So does this mean "something" is happening or that's just what I already knew � I was getting NBN until Liberals came around?
add: what is FSA anyway beyond the glossary entry?
That's what I get first hit for my address. Nearby suburb shows the previous 3 year plan for FSA with Q2 2015. So does this mean "something" is happening or that's just what I already knew � I was getting NBN until Liberals came around?
I have a new version of the site coming out in a few weeks which should clarify a few things.
But... unless otherwise indicated, anything under the "previous 1 or 3 year plan" is not under the current rollout. All rollout plans were basically ditched after the change of management. It doesn't look like an NBN rollout plan will be made public for a few months yet (at best).
what is FSA anyway beyond the glossary entry?
I'll explain relative to the Telstra network:
- FSA (Fixed-Line Service Area) is like a Telstra ESA (Exchange Service Area)
- typically, an FSA covers an entire suburb or several towns, just like an Telstra ESA does
- it only represents the fixed-line portion of the NBN rollout. (i.e. excludes fixed wireless and satellite)
- a FSA is serviced by a common FAN (Fibre Access Node) site, typically located within an existing Telstra exchange where NBN Co has rented rack space.
Hey jxeeno, GG on your exams! I'm sure you aced them.
Got a question on the address look-up on your site � is that bringing back live NBNCo results? Because apparently my place is ready to be hooked-up (install on Monday) yet every place I've checked reports my house as SC0 still. And we've not seen them actually pull fibre through the new pits yet...
Looking forward to myNBN 3.0! :D
Got a question on the address look-up on your site � is that bringing back live NBNCo results? Because apparently my place is ready to be hooked-up (install on Monday) yet every place I've checked reports my house as SC0 still. And we've not seen them actually pull fibre through the new pits yet...
Currently, address lookup pulls data straight from the latest version of the NBN rollout map. So, it can be off by up to a week. I'm also not sure if SC0 data is returned... from what I remember, I didn't code that in (oops).
Next version of myNBN (myNBN 2.0) will use a triple-check system to see if you're able to order a service. I'm not sure if it will do live-check of SC0 at this time though... I'll have to see.
I have learnt a lot about how it all hangs together for me through "MyNBN".
So yes, thanks for providing this info.
I know now that my wireless tower (2YON) connects to the Wagga Wagga POI (2WAG)
As I understand it now 2WAG is not yet connected to NBN fibre.
The next question for me is: is there a way to find out when 2WAG will be hooked up to NBN fibre.
Does anyone know?
I have a new version of the site coming out in a few weeks which should clarify a few things.
Thanks for the explanation, so I can still see what I knew was happening but now they've got no idea and it's almost 2015.. I doubt I'll see NBN by the previous timeframe and this stuff was meant to get cheaper and faster for all. Ok.
I doubt I'll see NBN by the previous timeframe and this stuff was meant to get cheaper and faster for all. Ok.
You are reeking the benefits of the now voted in Government and its Policies (and you ain't seen nothin' yet).
bugger, install stops 1 street away :(
You are reeking the benefits of the now voted in Government and its Policies (and you ain't seen nothin' yet).
Not sure if this was a typo, or deliberate...
... but either way, brownie-points to you !
:)
Sir Arrowflight KCMG writes...
... but either way, brownie-points to you !
Well I reckon that's why it was reeking :)
Hi Guys,
So the new part of my area is getting fibre. I drove around it today and found the FDH. I have an idea as to where the FSAM is but didn't think they would extend this far.
I am curious as to whether NBNco will extend the fibre to my part of the area since we have new houses popping up.
If not I am hoping the network extension program is put back into action.
Hey mate are there any news about when ( 9mns fsa ) will get nbn ?
can u do fttn maps for canberra plz
In www.mynbn.info they have 8DRW-06 as: Expected Ready for Service Date 21 Nov 2014 � this was last Friday...
Where can I find current status, revised expected date??
In www.mynbn.info they have 8DRW-06 as: Expected Ready for Service Date 21 Nov 2014 � this was last Friday...
Where can I find current status, revised expected date??
NBN Co has switched on the area late last night.
As a note, the dates listed on the website are indicative and may be off by a few days :) While I try to keep them up to date, NBN Co only officially updates them once a month... and they don't release it directly to the public either. So those dates are sourced monthly and updated as soon as feasible.
can u do fttn maps for canberra plz
I'm working on a brand new solution for FTTN maps. Unfortunately, I'm still working out how to get the ACT LPI.
Once that's done and we have the resources to crawl parts of the ACT for Telstra pillars, we can get some analysis done.
I'll also be opening up to crowd-contribution into the future to speed up the process :)
NBN Co has switched on the area late last night.
No rush on it as I'm not home for a week or so still but 2PTH-03 was also to go live on the 21st Nov, wonder if the RFS switch was clicked as well?
Looks like that's 4 streets away from me so they haven't brought all of Blair Athol online, wonder when the rest will be done?
Who knows. 4 streets away from me was in the initial rollout for my area (2 years ago became active) but my end of the suburb is still without any mention.
Media Release
Malcolm Turnbull to join the myNBN team to announce joint venture
We are pleased to announce that the Hon Malcolm Turnbull MP, will be joining the myNBN.info team as Lead Data Acqusition Manager starting today after resigning as the Minister for Communications this early morning.
myNBN�s General Manager for Data Visualisation, Timothy Mead said:
"Malcom brings with him his extensive experience with dealing with the NBN board and NBN executives in getting actual useful information from the management. We are so pleased to have him on board."
Malcolm will coordinate with NBN Co to launch the first joint venture between myNBN.info and NBN Co -- the 6 year NBN rollout map. This new map and plan will contain detailed information to the public, including an indicative expected availability^, and information about the technology choice used in your particular area*.
The industry leading map is one of NBN Co's latest efforts to reflect the Government�s requirements for greater transparency** as set out in the Statement of Expectations to NBN Co. myNBN.info will play a major role in ensuring this data is presented in an user-friendly manner.
NBN Co's Lead Website User Experience Director, Krem Lyn said:
"Starting tomorrow, the entire map of Australia will be shaded pink to indicate that build will commence in these areas before 2020. Like last December's release of the 18 month rollout plan, this 6 year rollout plan and map will help provide certainty to the Australian community that the NBN will be rolled out before 2020 across Australia, while not providing any further breakdown of dates beyond that."
In working with NBN Co to deliver this updated rollout map, myNBN�s General Manager for Data Visualisation, Timothy Mead said:
"To minimise confusion, NBN Co will only utilise a single colour and name to represent the technology across the rollout of Australia. We think the colour pink reflects our Multi-Technology Mix footprint magnificently."
"This means that everyone in Australia will get the same level of confidence that the NBN will come to you - irrespective of what NBN Co intends to rollout in your area: Satellite, Fixed Wireless, Fibre to the Premises, Fibre to the Node, Fibre to the Basement or (fibre-like super high speed internet over) HFC cable (using industry-leading DOCSIS 3.1 technology which NBN Co will be one of the first companies in the world to rollout)."
NBN Co's Chief Technology Agnosticist said:
"The actual technology types are just labels. They don't really tell the full picture. So, as Malcom suggested, we've decided to stick with three-word slogans that everyone knows best and we think "Multi-Technology Mix" ticks this box very well."
This updated rollout map weeks of preparatory work between the myNBN team lead by Malcolm Turnbull and NBN Co.
To ensure the data's integrity and format consistency with other data on NBN Co's website, the map will only be published in an A4 print out in PDF format.
Media enquiries: media@mynbn.info
^ Like the 18 month plan, NBN Co will state that all areas listed will be expected to commence build within 6 years. We won't tell the public when within these 6 years though.
* The choice of technology used by NBN Co for all areas is the "Multi-Technology Mix". NBN Co cannot provide a further breakdown of technology beyond that of the "Multi-Technology Mix"
** Transparency only applies to certain aspects of the NBN Co. Actual information that is useful to tax-payers and Australian residents such as expected availability dates may be excluded to ensure the accuracy of information and to remove the slightest possibility that we may be accused of missing a target.
Yes, this is an April Fools' joke. I acknowledge that satire isn't everyone's cup of tea, but there is a serious side to this.
As I have outlined clearly on this thread and continually advocated in my spare time and with my money, the lack of transparency that NBN Co provides to the public -- especially regarding its current rollout is very disappointing.
Having personally contacted the CEO of NBN Co, the Minister for Communications and various parties within NBN Co -- I have been unsuccessful in persuading them to release rollout datasets to the public.
This "media release" merely points out the inadequacies of what NBN Co calls "transparent" information available on their website.
A massive thanks to everyone who's visited, shared and supported the site. I will continue to pressure and ask the parties involved in the rollout to be more transparent on behalf of the over half a million Australians who have visited myNBN over the past 2 years.
We are pleased to announce that the Hon Malcolm Turnbull MP, will be joining the myNBN.info team as Lead Data Acqusition Manager starting today after resigning as the Minister for Communications this early morning.
My jaw almost dropped! I was like, omg~!, the dark hadou is coming~!
it's like people don't even bother trying any more...
Full-Metal-Alchemist writes...
My jaw almost dropped! I was like, omg~!, the dark hadou is coming~!
Ahhh funny, since its April 1st and all
** Transparency only applies to certain aspects of the NBN Co. Actual information that is useful to tax-payers and Australian residents such as expected availability dates may be excluded to ensure the accuracy of information and to remove the slightest possibility that we may be accused of missing a target.
There's a lot of accuracy in this statement!
since its April 1st and all
(posted Today at 12:43 am)
(edited Today at 12:55 am)
The post by Kenneth Tsang was obviously written yesterday (March 31st). Just a pity that it was uploaded this morning, pulling the wool over your eyes (and many others?).
Where is the Like button when it's needed?
My hat is off to you Sir!
Media Release
Malcolm Turnbull to join the myNBN team to announce joint venture
And an even funnier release on April 1st 2015 � and I quote!
The latest WA suburbs earmarked to receive the long-awaited National Broadband Network have been announced, with 79,000 homes in areas surrounding Fremantle, Bassendean and regional centres such as Broome to be targeted for the rollout.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/th
*Note the Sandgropers must be pissing themselves laughing here � given that in the 18 months since taking control of NBN Co they pretty much have done SFA in WA!
the other side of the main road they are rolling it out but looks like I am still a long way off of getting it
Media Release
Malcolm Turnbull to join the myNBN team to announce joint venture
Excellent post.
You did omit to mention that the NBNCo is to undergo a major shake up wherein the 2800+ employees will have to get out of their comfy chairs and air conditioned offices and actually perform to, as a minimum, a mediocre commercial standard :p
the Hon Malcolm Turnbull MP, will be joining the myNBN.info team as Lead Data Acqusition Manager starting today after resigning as the Minister for Communications this early morning.
Kenneth,
Do you know of any reason why this hasn't hit the MSM? Or, is it not so?
Do you know of any reason why this hasn't hit the MSM? Or, is it not so?
Check the date and time of his post for your answer. :)
A massive thanks to everyone who's visited, shared and supported the site.
No, Kenneth, thank you for all your efforts into creating the definitive NBN information supprepository. Seriously, speaking as a consulting engineer tracking greenfields, a guy actually doing his university thesis on the NBN and an angry Central Coastie with no internet, the lengths you've gone to to create and maintain this website has had a massive impact on my work and sanity.
I literally do visit it every single day.
is it not so?
Your edit at 10:30 a.m. today is too late.
I guess I'll just have to put it down to a degree of immaturity on your part.
Your edit at 10:30 a.m. today is too late.
Yes, I appended a reflective statement at 10:30am today. But I thought quotes like below would have clearly given it away:
NBN Co's Chief Technology Agnosticist said:
"The actual technology types are just labels. They don't really tell the full picture. So, as Malcom suggested, we've decided to stick with three-word slogans that everyone knows best and we think "Multi-Technology Mix" ticks this box very well."
I guess I'll just have to put it down to a degree of immaturity on your part.
I guess I'll just put YOUR comment down to a degree of gullibility on your part. ;)
Do you know of any reason why this hasn't hit the MSM? Or, is it not so?
:)
I've got to join the chorus and just say how an amazing piece of work you have done
If only government could provide such a great resource so we could know what was happening :)
New feature -- free subscription
Consumers can now sign up to a free subscription service which will email-notify when the rollout status for their location is updated. You can sign up for this feature here
Great work on the new site, like some others in this thread I'm also unable to sign up for the subscription, I get "unable to determine the location ID" even though my address is within a build commenced zone. is this because I'm not in the NBN database or maybe just related to my house being recently built?
Once again great work on the new site.
Great work on the new site, like some others in this thread I'm also unable to sign up for the subscription, I get "unable to determine the location ID" even though my address is within a build commenced zone. is this because I'm not in the NBN database or maybe just related to my house being recently built?
Hey Paulie99,
It's more likely that Google Maps doesn't have the address yet.
Could you whim me the address, I'll see if I can fix it :)
Jxeeno � Just where did the new FTTN Rfs dates come from? Can you provide a link?
Thanks
Jxeeno � Just where did the new FTTN Rfs dates come from? Can you provide a link?
Hi,
They were given to me, but can't say where or who. I know that they are from a reputable source though.
Cheers
Thanks for that... yes they look legit and reasonable...
Any idea about them deploying FTTd/p also?
New feature � 18 month rollout map/build & RFS dates
Hi jxeeno,
I am curious how you are handling areas like 6APP-05 which were in Build Prep and then disappeared from the rollout map? At the moment this area appears as "No service" when I type an address but the 6APP-05 SAM is actually listed when I expand on 6APP FSA (whereas 6APP-06 which has not yet entered Build Prep doesn't appear at all).
I thought it would be nice to at least identify SAMs which were previously in Build Prep but now removed (e.g. 'Build Prep completed' or 'awaiting Build' as distinct from just 'Build Prep') since once they come back they should go directly to Build.
Of course this assumes Build Prep SAMs which were removed had the Build Prep completed (as was the case in 6APP-05) rather than partially completed or not at all.
New feature � free subscription
Consumers can now sign up to a free subscription service which will email-notify when the rollout status for their location is updated. You can sign up for this feature here
You've beaten NBN Co to it by a few weeks on this one ;-)
You've beaten NBN Co to it by a few weeks on this one ;-)
Mine will provide RFS date changes too, so unless they do too (which I would applaud if they do!), hopefully it has the edge ;-)
Mine will provide RFS date changes too, so unless they do too (which I would applaud if they do!), hopefully it has the edge ;-)
Hope we will be able to see how that has changed over time too. :)
Mine will provide RFS date changes too,
Your always one or more steps ahead of them ... I continue to congratulate you on your excellent site
I read with interest up above your deploying Google Map service
Use the best, forget the rest!!
Have you any intel on what FTTn recently established � the Down AND Up speeds they are getting?
Cheers
Claudekrowe
According to mynbn.info, I'm on 18 months plan with estimated first build, Q1 2016, with FTTN technology. Can I upgrade it to FTTP once FTTN is ready at my place? I hope it doesn't cost a lot of money.
Full-Metal-Alchemist writes...
According to mynbn.info, I'm on 18 months plan with estimated first build, Q1 2016, with FTTN technology. Can I upgrade it to FTTP once FTTN is ready at my place? I hope it doesn't cost a lot of money.
It will cost you a hefty penny, but you can apply for it here: http://www.nbnco.com.au/conne
I read with interest up above your deploying Google Map service
Use the best, forget the rest!!
Google Maps data is pretty decent, but pretty useless in new areas since they don't update their data that frequently. That's problematic for the NBN rollout because so much of it is Greenfields areas at the moment.
Have you any intel on what FTTn recently established � the Down AND Up speeds they are getting?
Other than what's public available, no. More speed estimates, thanks to the work of Mr Mac, will be coming soon to myNBN though.
I can't seem to find if James Riley Dr in Glenmore Park / Mulgoa Rise new development in NSW is ready to go.
I'm trying to ascertain what service providers service the area. Nbnco have advised me via email the area is "active" but the address is not on Google maps etc
Some service providers like tpg and iinet have it as available on their website.
I get keys 8 May and want to have the net connected asap. What's the typical lead time for an nbn install?
reasonable.
Gorokan being switched on before the original trial rollout in Umina? It's very interesting, to say the least.
Do you plan on integrating the old fttn.mynbn.info with the new site? It'd be nothing short of awesome.
Also - where is the Epping Victoria FTTN rollout on there? Did it actually end up falling flat on its face?
Awesome update on the website, this is THE resource for NBN build info!
Thanks for providing such an awesome service.
Hey Jxeeno,
Just punched my address into the new v2 map and found something that I didn't expect.
The other half of my suburb is getting FTTP built at the moment. My address (Elissa Crescent, Wyoming, New South Wales, Australia) falls under a different Telstra exchange area than what the other half of my suburb is which is why I figured that was where the FTTP rollout stopped.
Putting my address into the site results in FTTP but the build dates don't make sense. Have the FTTP build dates that you specify been obtained from a special source as well as the FTTN dates? Or is there a mistake somewhere? Further into the next suburb (on the same Telstra exhange as me) it is definitely an FTTN area in the 18 month plan.
New site is pretty sweet S**** all over the nbnco site.
:D
site is pretty sweet S**** all over the nbnco site.
He puts NBNCO website to shame!
Hahahahaha :D
Love your work jxeeno! Very well executed indeed.
And sorry to keep going with the FTTN talk, but I'm wondering about the blanket March 2015 Build Commenced date for all the trial areas here. They seem to contradict the Build Commenced dates on the Service Area List. Belmont for instance is Sept 2014 there and was certainly being built at the time, so that would seem the more accurate date.
If you get bored, make a way for people to report what isp they are on, what technology they are connected with, which poi interconnect they sit on and what speeds they get, and what date the data was recorded, then it asks them to verify their report regularly so the data is updated.
Then we could all see where the slowness is within the national networks.
Love your work jxeeno! Very well executed indeed.
Thanks :)
And sorry to keep going with the FTTN talk, but I'm wondering about the blanket March 2015 Build Commenced date for all the trial areas here.
Ahh, that's an issue. I'll try and get it fixed � thanks!
Hi jxeeno,
I just checked:
http://www.mynbn.inf
where 6APP is listed as 'Last Build completes' in Q1 2016 whereas 6SPT and 6VIC which are more advanced (especially 6VIC which has only two FSAMs in Build Prep to mop up) has Q2 2016.
Where did you get the 'Last Build completes' information from and for which FSAMs in an FSA does it apply to? Obviously something is a amiss with the 6APP, I don't see the 'Last Build completes' until at least Q2 2017 given 6APP-05, 6APP-06 and 6APP-07 have not even entered Build yet and Telstra was the DP for these FSAMs according to the December 2014 Senate hearing minutes:
http://www.aph.gov.a
ADDITIONAL: Also when looking at:
http://www.mynbn.info/sa/6APP
It seems to include 6APP-05 now MIA as part of the 16,657 premises which will get FTTP out of the total 23,600 premises in the FSA .... what a mess .. sorry jxeeno ,,,, you have designed a brilliant site and should win top awards for web UI design but as they say .... garbage in _________________
Hi Pete,
6APP is listed as 'Last Build completes' in Q1 2016 whereas 6SPT and 6VIC which are more advanced (especially 6VIC which has only two FSAMs in Build Prep to mop up) has Q2 2016.
Your analysis is logical, but I think something has changed a lot with 6APP since Dec 2014.
- 6APP is a bit out of whack, but according to data I have, there will only be 5 SAMs in 6APP. The last one being 6APP-07, with build expected to commence in April 2015 (on the map next month) and expected RFS of Q1-2015.
- 6SPT will have a total of 8 SAMs with two more SAMs to enter build: 6SPT-08 and 6SPT-05. It's expected either one or both of those will be RFS by Q2-2016
- and 6VIC will have a total of 10 SAMs, the final two which are currently in build prep will enter build phase on Apr-2015 and May-2015. It's expected either one or both of those will be RFS by Q2-2016
- so, since 6APP only has one SAM remaining � it is logical to have Q1-2015 as its last build completion date. The other two FSAs (6SPT and 6VIC) will have to live on for an extra qtr before their two final SAMs are completed.
Where did you get the 'Last Build completes' information from and for which FSAMs in an FSA does it apply to?
It's from an expanded version of the 18 month plan. But it's not public, unfortunately.
Thanks mate. Love your work :-)
6APP is a bit out of whack, but according to data I have, there will only be 5 SAMs in 6APP. The last one being 6APP-07, with build expected to commence in April 2015 (on the map next month) and expected RFS of Q1-2015.
Sorry but this completely defies any logic, the former 6APP-05, 6APP-06 and 6APP-08 are part of the same HFC network together with 6APP-07 which originate from Bateman exchange. As such these FSAMs can no longer go to HFC (or even FTTN) build if 6APP-07 goes to FTTP and overbuilds the HFC network which originates out of it! And this does not even consider the fact 6APP-05 went to Build Prep late last year before being removed.
I can only assume the politics at NBN are running red hot and they are desperate to move on all those promised FTTN builds which have to be in play by September 2016, not to mention new SAMs for the HFC builds; the cracks are beginning to show and they are starting to make mistakes.
Apologies for shooting the messenger, you are doing a great job jxeeno, too bad the same can no longer be said about NBN and Co.
Sorry but this completely defies any logic, the former 6APP-05, 6APP-06 and 6APP-08 are part of the same HFC network together with 6APP-07 which originate from Bateman exchange. As such these FSAMs can no longer go to HFC (or even FTTN) build if 6APP-07 goes to FTTP and overbuilds the HFC network which originates out of it! And this does not even consider the fact 6APP-05 went to Build Prep late last year before being removed.
Okay, after reassessing the data, I don't know if I can put total trust in that "5 SAM" figre. It looks like that the issue here is that this data deliberately excludes SAMs with HFC footprint, thus only counting 5. The current areas that are ready, or in build and build prep are the "FTTP-only" FSAMs.
The remainder will go through the so-called Multi-Technology Mix, but probably won't get added until the HFC product is a bit more "finalised". That will increase the SAM count back up to 11.
I will look to clarify the way I define "last build finishes". But it sure is confusing as hell.
One last point though. My understanding is that NBN Co is essentially running its own HFC network up to the nearest optical node in the HFC network. Where the current HFC network originates from doesn't really matter.
My understanding is that NBN Co is essentially running its own HFC network up to the nearest optical node in the HFC network.
Ah yes but the design principles clearly state NBN Co will try to ensure areas have a consistent technology, if 6APP-05 goes to HFC it will be surrounded by FTTP to the north east and FTTN to the south west. Also seems silly to have only one SAM in an HFC area go to FTTP while the remainder go to HFC, especially when the other area (6APP-05) at the opposite end completed Build Prep for FTTP, a double waste!
I think what has happened is that NBN has fed you the details of what they intend to do in the next quarter only, not from now until Sept 2016. So the remaining SAMs in 6APP will go to FTTP but NBN have not planned that yet for the next 3 months.
I predict we will see 6APP-05 enter Build around Sept 2015 when 6APP-07 is completed (I notice it only takes 6 months for the core FTTP Build, the other 6 months are for the lead-in connections) but at the moment NBN doesn't even know that as they can''t think that far ahead (their crystal ball gazing is restricted to FTTN where they are able to predict 25,000 premises in Hilton and Bassendean will go to Build by Sept 2016 when they are still trialling FTTN!).
Thanks Kenneth,
It's awesome! :star:
It's awesome! :star:
Fully agree, only let down by the data provided by NBN Co.
The best way to use the mynbn information are the details provided for the areas in RFS or Build only (I note the FDH DA details are provided, that is certainly cool!), all other information can be considered as tentative at this stage (especially areas in Build Prep which can suddenly disappear on a whim, and anything to do with FTTN which is pure speculation).
We have more accurate information.
Thanks. Fingers crossed 3NPR gets far enough down the track in September 2016 that when the federal government changes we don't get put on hold :-). Great job on the site!
Jxeeno , I am unable to find 5GAW-02 on the rollout tracker . Does this area still exist in the Fibre roll out ? Is it incorporated in 5GAW still ? Any info would be appreciated .
Looking very good indeed mate.
One request � on the front page of the old site you listed the latest activations, if you could sneak that list somewhere into the new site that would be awesome.
Of course, if it's already there feel free to let me know I haven't looked hard enough :)
He's working on it :)
I did enjoy checking the home page of the old myNBN to see which new areas have gone RFS today, and whether they match Telstra's list.
Ah, coming back soon :) you can still get it here http://v1.mynbn.info/recent
Thanks Diggy and J, I missed that post.
I know you like bug reports ;)
:P
Just curious, 2LID-07 is marked as RFS on V1 but it's still in Build Commenced (and heavily delayed) in V2. Devoted NBN SQ tool says it's ready to go, so might need to sync your data sources :)
Thanks! I think I've found the rogue code that's causing the sync issues.
Also, on smaller screens, the social buttons on the right hand side make it impossible to 'X' the 'beta' pop-up � well, almost impossible, removing it manually with Inspect Element does the trick.
I'll remove those social buttons for now... they weren't really that effective anyway :)
Just another thing � it's probably just a Google Maps thing that you can't do anything about, but scrolling around the map lags like absolute hell on my laptop (2008 era, Core 2 Duo, MacBook) thanks to the new orange shading everywhere. It's fine on my gaming PC, of course :)
Thanks for the feedback, I'll look for a possible solution. At present, I get Google Maps to render the whole shading at once... it would probably make it easier for the computer to render parts that are close to the viewport.
One last question � the automatic check for recent activations � does that happen every 24 hours? Faster, slower, when the data is pushed? (Sorry I'm being irritable, my area is meant to be RFS today!)
It happens a little more frequent than that. Next run is at 3 o'clock. Continue to check on myNBN v1 for now, my NBN scripts had exceeded its weekly run limits due to the change of the nbn website this week.
can u get this information , nbn constrution between isabella drive and athlon drive at canberra
nbn website this week
Wait, the nbnTM website actually contains useful information? o.0
Wait, the nbnTM website actually contains useful information? o.0
In some ways... some data like provider lists are still reliant on the nbnTM website... as are the current rollout maps.
Hi jxeeno,
Top job on the new site!
I don't have a clue if this is possible...but in order to have a "big picture" view on the national rollout is it feasible to have a state by state breakdown by date of when "build instructions" were issued for each
FSAM.
I guess it would need to be limited either by number or date.
Thanks and where is that donate button :)
Thanks and where is that donate button :)
maybe you could look on his blog, never know what you might find
an u get this information , nbn constrution between isabella drive and athlon drive at canberra
It doesn't show back-haul construction.
Top job on the new site!
Thanks!
I don't have a clue if this is possible...but in order to have a "big picture" view on the national rollout is it feasible to have a state by state breakdown by date of when "build instructions" were issued for each
FSAM.
It's not really possible to do it without some data wrangling in an Excel spreadsheet. You can get a vague idea by going to a state-list of FTTP rollouts and noting the build commenced column there, filter/sort accordingly on an Excel spreadsheet.
The way that the database is structure at the moment makes it a bit hard to sort by build dates. I'm considering two options � replicating date fields in the rollout region table or doing SQL table views. It's something I'm definitely considering.
Thanks and where is that donate button :)
Thanks, but I'm no longer asking for donations on myNBN because I (will) rely on advertising to help run the site :)
Statistics are back(-ish): http://www.mynbn.info/stats
FSAM counts and other non-NBN provided statistics will also be added soon.
What a brilliant site jxeeno.
Looks absolutely beautiful :)
I was wondering if you could possibly answer a question about nbns mapping as you seem to know your way around their systems.
I have a friend who has a property in Darley, Victoria. For some reason the street he lives in is not listed in Google Maps (Darley Drive, Darley, Vic) even though a dozen properties have lived on it for 5 years now. https://www.google.com.au/map
The street shows correctly on Bing maps though. http://binged.it/1J6s5dP
How does information on the rollout to his property work when nbn do not recognise his street because they utilise Google Maps who for some reason do not even show his street as existing?
Hopefully that makes sense and sorry if this is offtopic to your tracker.
Thanks.
maybe you could look on his blog, never know what you might find
Thanks found it an used it. A great effort jxeeno. Much appreciated.
Awesome work and keep it up, it just makes sad looking at map and stats, NBN is just on the cusp of greatness and got destroyed.
I've been getting a lot of angry emails and complaints... because of some confusion to how SAMs and Rollout Regions relate to the FSAM structure in the old site. For the benefit of the Whirlpool community, I thought I'd give a bit of an explainer:
Previously on the v1 site, FSAMs were regarded as the "ultimate rollout block" which all information was associated to. An FSAM was given a "ready for service" date, amongst other things.
However, as the NBN rollout evolved, an FSAM was no longer built in its entirety at first instance. The introduction of infill areas (INFs), service continuity regions (SCRs) and Fibre to the Basement rollouts (FTBs) meant that each FSAM (now SAM) had multiple ready for service dates and multiple technologies and multiple everything. This will only get more complicated with the MTM rollout ahead.
To overcome this issue, an extra abstraction layer is needed -- the rollout region (under the MTM, this may be called a rollout area block -- RAB). A rollout region can be thought of as a construction block within an SAM -- meaning a ready for service date is associated with the rollout region and not the SAM. As are build commencement dates, and disconnection dates.
It's important to note that a rollout region does not represent a single technology either. Technology is defined at the ADA (Access Distribution Area) level.
I must emphasise that while I understand there is confusion in this change of abstraction, it is essential for this change to occur to accurately depict the rollout of the NBN.
Feel free to post any questions below... and I'll try and answer them. Because if you're confused, then many other people will also be confused.
I've been getting a lot of angry emails and complaints...
Hmm how does this go again:
"no good deed deserves to go unpunished" ?
Seriously my complaints are first and foremost with the accuracy and relevance of the data provided by NBN which the new mynbn can only do but highlight ... another saying springs to mind:
"don't shoot the messenger!"
Your mynbn site should win a few awards, any UI or software design competitions we can nominate you for?
"don't shoot the messenger!"
+ 1 on this. Jxeeno does not deserve angry emails and complaints. If you have a problem/question, ask him about it. Remember, all the info he uses comes from NBN and we all know the accuracy of that.
Your mynbn site should win a few awards,
+ 1 on this too.
Feel free to post any questions below... and I'll try and answer them. Because if you're confused, then many other people will also be confused.
Please let us know how many questions you get from NBN :)
Please let us know how many questions you get from NBN :
there is likely to be only one.
How the heck do you do that on your own?
We pay lots of people lots of money and still have nothing as professional
How the heck do you do that on your own?
Exactly.
jxeeno you are a dead set legend mate!
I've been getting a lot of angry emails and complaints... because of some confusion to how SAMs and Rollout Regions relate to the FSAM structure in the old site. For the benefit of the Whirlpool community, I thought I'd give a bit of an explainer:
You don't deserve those angry emails.
You are a legend! No body should expect you to do a perfect job. NBN [Co?] are paid to do the same job!!!
Using micronodes would be a fibre to the distribution point network, which is not currently planned for NBN.
Like ADSL, folks lucky enough to have short line lengths will get (much) better speeds than those at hundreds of meters.
1) I went to look for my Pillar and found it on the next street. By car odometer it's between 200-300m and using "Here" map it comes to 210m
That is very good news for you. But the next thing you need to consider is how likely it is they will build a node at or near your pillar. How many other premises are there in you DA?
NBN's target ratio that they keep announcing in their press releases (but have not published build standards) is 1 node : 200 premises. However in my town there are about 140 pillars, yet under 10,000 premises or about 70 premises per DA.
If you can, it might be worth tracing your pillar's trunk back to the exchange or CMUX, and perhaps downstream as well. You may get an idea of where they may - or may not - build nodes.
Just be warned, you may not like what you find. My DA has 99 premises, and the nearest upstream one 98. The nearest downstream one is over 1000m away, so I think the chances of there being a node at my pillar are slightly lower than NBN deciding to build me FTTP.
Well there you go complicating things lol, I have no idea beyond this.
http://www.mynbn.info/sa/2BER/
Either way finally seeing some progress even if it might be guess work thanks to NBN.
Quick question, what is the difference between the service class and how can one found out which service class their house/area is?
Hey guys,
I think this has been a bit off topic... primarily because the new myNBN doesn't have FTTN analysis (yet). The FTTN thread (/forum-replies.cfm?t=2368497) may be a more appropriate location to discuss node and pillar location / speeds, etc...
Quick question, what is the difference between the service class and how can one found out which service class their house/area is?
Service Class definitions can be found in the FAQ: http://www.mynbn.info/faq/list
how can one found out which service class their house/area is?
A service class is assigned to a particular location. myNBN only displays service classes for locations in areas that are expected to be ready for service within 6 months.
You can use alternative sources like DeVoteD NBN's SQ tool to check the SQ for locations around Australia... however, our guess is that the data is mostly unreliable unless your area is already in build thanks to some data fiddling done recently by NBN Co.
Service Class definitions can be found in the FAQ: http://www.mynbn.info/faq/list
Sweet thanks, I was looking on the FAQ the other day must've missed it haha.
The FTTN thread (/forum-replies.cfm?t=2368497) may be a more appropriate location to discuss node and pillar location / speeds, etc...
yep no worries
Having a look at campbelltown NSW I note that there is no DA (distribution area) labelled 2CBT-01-05 but there is a 2CBT-01-17 ?
Seems odd to miss one in the sequence.
Having a look at campbelltown NSW I note that there is no DA (distribution area) labelled 2CBT-01-05 but there is a 2CBT-01-17 ?
Seems odd to miss one in the sequence.
That happens sometimes. Usually, it's because of MPS (multi premises sites) which account for an entire DA. Their rollouts may be delayed or offset to a later time for an alternate technology, e.g. FTTB.
2CBT-01-05
My guess that is actually The Potter House Christian Centre looks like the most likely candidate for 2CBT-01-05.
23-53 LITHGOW ST, CAMPBELLTOWN NSW
Sound premise, but 23 � 53 Lithgow street is the Campbelltown Public School.
I note the use of Service Class 10 (FTTN?) vs Service Class 0 for FTTP, although the use of Fibre rather than MTM for FTTN, I think is mistake by DeVoteD. Conversely do we trust the NBN database anyway?
Seems like a rep from DeVoteD reads these threads, I just checked again and the Type correctly appears as MTM (rather than Fibre) across all searches. In fact the only difference is in the Service Class, it is 0 if you are in the previous government's under construction or 1 year plan (for FTTP) and it is 10 otherwise for all other areas. Not sure how significant this is but at least it is a record of what we had and an indicator of which areas may still get FTTP (i.e. those with Service Class 0 are still in the running).
Conversely do we trust the NBN database anyway?
Hi PeteP,
Probably a negative on this, PARTICULARLY if they have based much of the cabling records on Telstras information
We had an interaction with T Country Wide reps (south of us) once, and it was plain evidence to note that the cable records they were reading for our area, was HOPELESSLY out of date!
I think this would be a mirror image case for many (possibly 100's even 1000's of regions) around Aus
Just saying, unless someone can technically refute actual ...
Claudekrowe
Just saying, unless someone can technically refute actual ...
The records I've seen are very inaccurate, particularly on cable length. This may make their Service Qualification tests in future very inaccurate unless they improve the data or estimations.
Yes Mr Mac,
With help of clever people on here (Whirlpool) teaching how to correlate the DA numbers (on the streetside distribution pillars) meshing that with my own research ADSL2exchanges site etc AND chatting to long time residents. The TCW reps were quoting connections to DA that have been what I estimate 10 years approx. behind (for our locality)
So if the SQ tools are using Telstra data, yeh well Good Luck with that !!
Krowey
Hi jxeeno, thanks so much for your site.
I have a question: do you have or would you consider implementing some kind of API ?
I ask for selfish reasons: I'm house-hunting and would like to make a browser extension that could scrape my page of real estate search results, look up the series of addresses and return some basic NBN-related info, injecting markup into the page accordingly. I think that'd be really useful
Thanks again!
I ask for selfish reasons: I'm house-hunting and would like to make a browser extension that could scrape my page of real estate search results, look up the series of addresses and return some basic NBN-related info, injecting markup into the page accordingly. I think that'd be really useful
Hi Mr Meeseeks,
APIs are in the roadmap, but a spatial-based API isn't in the current plan. I'll be starting off simple with less computationally expensive APIs.
APIs that rely on things like Google Maps will cost me larger sums of money... so while I'm not ruling spatial-APIs out in any way, the possibility of location/spatial APIs will probably be a "paid" API in order to recoup some of the costs of running extra servers and subscribing to Google Maps' API.
On the note of real estate results though, I have been doing weekly lists for rental properties (and properties to buy are coming quite soon too) with NBN. /forum-replies.cfm?t=2401447
Cheers!
Hi jxeeno,
Not sure if this was asked but is there any plan (assuming there is any point!?) in bringing back the FSAM maps from v1 for those areas removed or under old construction?
Sometimes it is good to be reminded of the way it was (or would have been).
.
Possible bug report.
Not sure if it is a bug or just whacky data but the site has a RFS of 31st May for our local tower but also say RFS already: http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3STE-51-06-POMN
v1 has it as good to go: http://v1.mynbn.info/wsam/3STE-51-06-POMN
I'll add to the chorus while I'm here, awesome work you've done on this.
Not sure if it is a bug or just whacky data but the site has a RFS of 31st May for our local tower but also say RFS already: http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3STE-51-06-POMN
v1 has it as good to go: http://v1.mynbn.info/wsam/3STE-51-06-POMN
Hi LagerFan,
It's good news is that the tower is now active. It was activated ahead of schedule.
Keep in mind that NBN Co's map is only updated once a week and is often one week behind reality.
If you live in that area, you can now order a service with your RSP of choice.
Cheers,
jx
Not sure if this was asked but is there any plan (assuming there is any point!?) in bringing back the FSAM maps from v1 for those areas removed or under old construction?
Sometimes it is good to be reminded of the way it was (or would have been).
Hey PeteP,
Depends... I might add it as an optional layer later. In reality, that data is some 2 years old... but I understand it's a good resource to refer back to sometimes.
Will definately consider.
Cheers,
jx
To hopefully clear things up a bit, I've added a message that shows up on all recently activated rollout regions saying that the nbn� website and rollout map may not be up-to-date.
Areas activated within the past 7 days should show the message.
In reality, that data is some 2 years old...
So is FTTP given that was superseded back in Sept 2013 by FTTN and HFC and yet the FSAM maps are still relevant today as then!
How accurate are the Rollout maps?
My house was shown on the NBN coverage map falling into a brown hatched area, for wireless from a tower due to be ready for service on 30 Jun 2015. Then last weekend, "poof", my property disappeared from the coverage map but not my neighbours!
Will this effect my connection to the NBN?
What does it mean when my suburb doesn't even exist on the site? No plans?
What does it mean when my suburb doesn't even exist on the site? No plans?
It probably means that your suburb is not in the 18 month rollout plan. Keep in mind that not each suburb or exchange will have its own Service Area... NBN's network is different from the Telstra network; so a Service Area could span a few exchange areas.
That said, nbn� is expected to release a 3 year rollout plan next month. You may see your suburb appear then.
How accurate are the Rollout maps?
Rollout maps are provided by nbn�. If you'd like, you can whim me your area and address and I can double check for you.
It probably means that your suburb is not in the 18 month rollout plan. Keep in mind that not each suburb or exchange will have its own Service Area... NBN's network is different from the Telstra network; so a Service Area could span a few exchange areas.
That said, nbn� is expected to release a 3 year rollout plan next month. You may see your suburb appear then.
Ok for that town i live there is going to be 4 planned FW sites and no mention of fftn at all ?
Status Planned
Build~ Jul 2015
RFS~ Q4 2015
Doesn't FW need fibre backhaul leading the exchange as the telstra transit network needs upgrading here in town stated by the nbn just recently ?
Doesn't FW need fibre backhaul leading the exchange as the telstra transit network needs upgrading here in town stated by the nbn just recently ?
No. Depending on network topology in your area but many of the towers have microwave backhaul instead.
double check for you.
Hiya jxeeno,
Just on v2 site, sorry for the stupid question, what does a Status of (GREEN colour) Preparation & when click into them just notes Preparation (Nov 2014) just checked a couple of areas of interest and that was what came up
If you can believe what was announced the other day, nbn plan to release 3 years worth of roll out (out to Jun 2018 I think) within the next couple months
In your expert opinion, how reliable could this info hope to be, for example if one was investing in a property in a roll out plan region - last minute changes really annoy people that like to have a long term plan
Thanks for continuing the great work on mynbn
Claudekrowe
Just asking but why haven't the maps on the myNBN v2 haven't updated for the new build-prep areas especially in SA (St mary's, etc).
(The areas that have build-prep shading on it still shows that it is on the 18-month plan)
how reliable could this info hope to be, for example if one was investing in a property in a roll out plan region � last minute changes really annoy people that like to have a long term plan
Long term plans should not be taken with caution, especially when anything beyond 12 months. Heck, nbn� can't even get RFS dates 3 months out accurate sometimes.
Just asking but why haven't the maps on the myNBN v2 haven't updated for the new build-prep areas especially in SA (St mary's, etc).
Hi Techno100,
I haven't received updated rollout information yet. Since NBN Co no longer provides information publicly, the adding of new areas is typically delayed. I endeavour to get the information up asap.
Thanks jxeeno, I was of course pointing out the actions (questionable) taken by the NEW nbn when they took away a promised technology and replaced with slower product.
Heck, nbn� can't even get RFS dates 3 months out accurate
I was not aiming that one at your mynbn.info, which continues to run rings around the poor excuse that passes for information the new nbn co website (which has been gradually DUMBED down !!)
Krowey
Hi, do we know if the rfs date for 2grk-01 is still sept 1? Telstra tech the other day says he doubts it will be ready by sept 1
Any updates on the myNBN site Jxeeno?
Seems like a rep from DeVoteD reads these threads, I just checked again and the Type correctly appears as MTM (rather than Fibre) across all searches. In fact the only difference is in the Service Class, it is 0 if you are in the previous government's under construction or 1 year plan (for FTTP) and it is 10 otherwise for all other areas. Not sure how significant this is but at least it is a record of what we had and an indicator of which areas may still get FTTP (i.e. those with Service Class 0 are still in the running).
I have been spending much of lunchtime using DevotedNBN's SQ checker (sorry Glenn!) to try and work out what the story is with what technology is being rolled out where.
I have noticed a pattern in cities that areas that are fairly substantial but lack HFC are showing as SC0, while HFC areas are SC10.
A couple of cases in point.
3RCM-02 (where I am; on the 3 year plan) is all SC0. Around it, everything is SC10. With the exception of a few streets north of Bridge Rd, there is no HFC. Detailed design for the area had been done I think because it was in the 3 year rollout plan under the previous government.
3WIR-03, where my dad is, also shows SC0. What makes it interesting is that HFC is plentiful where he is, yet on the other side of the railway line (a dense business area) there is none.
In Collingwood, Middle Park and South Melbourne (other islands of no HFC surrounded by HFC), they are showing SC10.
I am guessing therefore that NBNCo is going on a SAM-by-SAM basis.
If there is a significant portion of the SAM without HFC AND either there are lots of business OR detailed design's been done, then it's going to get FTTP.
Otherwise, it will get HFC. I am guessing that there will not be any FTTN to avoid having 3 overlapping technologies in a service area...
I will guess we'll see if these theories prove correct though...
Off-topic from MyNBNs site, but with Devoted's SQ, my area was on the 1 year plan with the previous Gov, most surrounding areas/towns now have been added to the FTTN rollout, except us. When checking Devoted's website, I get SC0.
Would there be a major reason why we haven't even been looked at? Our town is smack in the middle of all surrounding areas/towns, surrounding the town is FW everywhere basically, but I'm just stunned that we haven't been looked at or even considered. Especially for FTTN.
I'm hoping I'm in the right place and that you good folk can help me as three different websites are telling me three different things about NBN access. The reason I'm keen to get an answer is before any NBN installation goes ahead, I want my house data cabled first but I'm not keen to proceed with that until I'm certain it's coming. Note: A PCD has not yet been installed.
If I plug my address into NBN Co's website, I get "Great news, you can order an nbn� plan today"
If I use mynbn.info, the result is "Brownfields FTTP. Not (yet) serviceable. Note! This area went live in the past few days. This service qualification information may not be up-to-date. Bespoke Connection Required. Service class 0"
And finally, devoted SQ results in "NBN Fibre (MTM)** is coming to your place soon!"
I don't want to order a service before having the house data cabled but I don't want to data cable only to find out there's no NBN. Can someone shed some light on the above results, in particular the "Service class 0" and "Bespoke connection required". My ISP (Internode) still shows a result an address search akin to devoted's result whilst iiNet agrees with NBN Co's result.
Help!
Edit: Whoops! It would help if I added that my area is 3BRA-07
Edit 2: I'm told we did have NBN Co up and down the driveway chalk marking the conduit underneath and there's leftover pieces of some type of rope near our wall Telstra box and the Telstra pit at the end of the driveway.
Would there be a major reason why we haven't even been looked at?
I hate to throw cold water on this but last week I checked a few of the 6CAN areas which are getting FTTN and they appeared as SC0 rather than SC10 which can only really mean one thing: the NBN database is out of date and cannot be relied upon ... oh well.
Looks like 9QBN-05 has gone RFS unavailable on mynbn.info but looks like the Telstra NBN wholesale sheet has updated it from November 2015 to Feb 2016.
https://www.telstrawholesale
Looks like 9QBN-05 has gone RFS unavailable on mynbn.info but looks like the Telstra NBN wholesale sheet has updated it from November 2015 to Feb 2016.
Looks like a software issue. Looking into it now, thanks for the flag :)
edit: issue fixed. I will be loading new RFS dates up soon.
Looks like a software issue. Looking into it now, thanks for the flag :)
Legend, thanks! :)
Um jxeeno for some reason I can't connect to the fttn.mynbn.info site. I get an error 521 is there anyway you can fix this?
Um jxeeno for some reason I can't connect to the fttn.mynbn.info site. I get an error 521 is there anyway you can fix this?
working for me 9:28am
ISP Internode
I think he means fttn.mynbn.info, not mynbn.info.
The first one has been down for me for a while now. It was a useful page as it had the estimated distances from the "silver torpedos" in the trial rollout areas.
Um jxeeno for some reason I can't connect to the fttn.mynbn.info site. I get an error 521 is there anyway you can fix this?
Sorry about that! Should be back up now... maps may take a while to re-render.
Jxeeno, why hasn't 6MDR-07 been updated yet? apparently it's been build phase since "may" but went on the map last update however hasn't change on your website yet. Theres a RFS date also which is april 2016 on the Telstra rollout schedule.
Thanks.
:)
Jxeeno, why hasn't 6MDR-07 been updated yet? apparently it's been build phase since "may" but went on the map last update however hasn't change on your website yet. Theres a RFS date also which is april 2016 on the Telstra rollout schedule.
Sorry Daniel, there has been a change in format for both the build data and the latest 18 month rollout plan � data update is taking longer than usual.
Apologies for the inconvenience!
Sorry Daniel, there has been a change in format for both the build data and the latest 18 month rollout plan � data update is taking longer than usual.
another change on nbn�'s end
Oh, jxeeno just a heads up 5CPK-01 is in build commenced for awhile now.
Oh, jxeeno just a heads up 5CPK-01 is in build commenced for awhile now.
So has 6VIC-10 apparently. I got confused the other day when it was listed still in Build Preparation and NBNCo were not showing any green areas. This together with the lack of SAM ID designation on the map (e.g. which brown/green colored jigsaw piece is 6VIC-10 ... or 5CPK-01?) is a bit of a problem.
So has 6VIC-10 apparently.
Sorry guys! I've set aside a few hours to manually update all the records plus the 18 month rollout plan this afternoon. Apologies for the inconvenience.
In other news, I'll be doing an AMA on /r/Australia tomorrow from 1pm. Feel free to join: more info here
plus the 18 month rollout plan this afternoon
If you can decipher the supposedly "new" 1800 premises to enter Build in the next three months out of the remaining 12000 premises in Applecross FSA not on the rollout (6APP is around 50% completed with FTTP and the rest are in limbo) that would be handy!
Or better yet the mystery of the missing 1700 premises in Victoria Park FSA (6VIC) which will go the Build in the next three months given ALL of 6VIC is currently in FTTP Build.
(ref: http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
But that would require you to have access to the hallowed, mystical and magical inner sanctum of NBN MTM planning.
My area ia showing as h2-2016 what does that mean? I see others are q3 which i under stand is quater three. Does h2 does mean quater 2?
My area ia showing as h2-2016 what does that mean? I see others are q3 which i under stand is quater three. Does h2 does mean quater 2?
h2 = second half of year. once it gets closer you'll have something less broad.
So simple lol.
Sorry guys! I've set aside a few hours to manually update all the records plus the 18 month rollout plan this afternoon. Apologies for the inconvenience.
I suppose the rollout map on your website be updated as well to show the new 18 month icons showing the orange coloured areas ?
I suppose the rollout map on your website be updated as well to show the new 18 month icons showing the orange coloured areas ?
They will be updated, yes :) working on it now in fact!
They will be updated, yes :) working on it now in fact!
When will we expect to see the updates on the map?
they will add new ACT rollout soon :D
ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Farrer, Greenway, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens,
Wanniassa
Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor,
Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson
They will be updated, yes :) working on it now in fact!
Excellent, it'll be interesting to see how much orange shading will cover my town hopefully, fingers crossed.
Would be nice if they'd hurry up and get to my area...
Hi all,
Apologies for the delay. Rollout status and the new 18 month rollout plan has been uploaded onto the site. Some data is still missing at this point, but I hope to have it all uploaded at the end of the week.
Again, shameless plug, I'm doing an AMA on Reddit Australia from 1PM today :-)
Cheers!
Again, shameless plug, I'm doing an AMA on Reddit Australia from 1PM today :-)
Too many social media portals for me to keep up with these days (facebook, twitter and now reddit?) so I will ask here the questions/concerns I have since April related to 6APP and 6APP-05 which can be generalised as:
Q1) Any update on the status of the (mainly HFC) FSAMs which had completed Build Prep by Apr 2015 and were removed from the maps since then? Have any come back on the map or specifically mentioned in the latest 18 month or are they still in limbo?
SUPPLEMENTARY: The theory is the SAMS with HFC are being held for NBN HFC, however this does not explain why 6APP-07 an area with HFC was fast tracked to Build Prep and then Build ahead of 6APP-05 (which was removed) given these are part of the same HFC exchange network?
Q2) In the July MTM rollout map, the numbers don't make sense for FSA with FTTP Builds. I did some analysis here: whrl.pl/Relp3x which makes me believe NBN are reusing existing FSAMs recently gone to Build and declaring these as "new" areas which will enter Build by Q3-2015. Have I misinterpreted the MTM rollout map data (that premises numbers are for new Builds only) or is NBN providing misleading/ambiguous information (mixing up new Builds together with recent Builds)?
so I will ask here
Thats not how reddit works. YOu have to ask it in the reddit thread, so he can then respond to it, so the q and a can be read by everyone. He's not going to just answer questions over there that nobody can see.
Thats not how reddit works.
Just looking over some of the reddit posts now:
https://www.reddit.com/r
(not familiar with reddit so not even sure if this is the proper link to the AMA)
I guess to me the key question which is also relevant to the information being imported to mynbn is my Q2) above in regards to how one interprets the numbers for the MTM rollout map released last week.
Since jxeeno reads this column I am sure if he has an answer he will provide one. After all he has to import these numbers into the 18 month rollout plan.
Checked out the new updated map on mynbn.info today showing the 18 month planned areas and boy talk about a knife edge. I'm just within the orange shading....subject to change of course when the build commences in this area next year 2H 2016
nbn� is expected to commence build in parts of this suburb within 18 months.
Hey, jxeeno any updates on the 5CPK area expect updating 5CPK-01 from build preparation to commenced. P.S the new build prep areas don't have any appox of premises.
Ya Ho my area is now on the 18 Month rollout plan Flagstaff Hill South Australia
Hey, jxeeno any updates on the 5CPK area expect updating 5CPK-01 from build preparation to commenced. P.S the new build prep areas don't have any appox of premises.
Hey techno100, good point. I'll add those figures in soon... some data is missing until I'm able to access them, but premises should be possible.
Since jxeeno reads this column I am sure if he has an answer he will provide one. After all he has to import these numbers into the 18 month rollout plan.
Hey PeteP,
I'll try and find some time to look at this tonight... it's been a pretty busy few days for me :) This is a bit more than just an off-the-top response
I'll try and find some time to look at this tonight
Thanks jxeeno, and good luck trying to make sense of what you get from NBN. If it means anything I hear that FDHs are already popping up around 6APP-07 which seems quite quick given this area only went into Build in April/May.
I'm just within the orange shading
Hmm, I only get the orange shading when I zoom out enough, but the boundaries are quite fuzzy so unless you are well within the orange shading I wouldn't hold my breath. What would be good is to click on the orange shading and be told which SA, or click within any green or brown area and be told which SAM, I don't think the current map is able to do that.
Ya Ho my area is now on the 18 Month rollout plan Flagstaff Hill South Australia
Dont know what area of Flagstaff Hill you are in but ive just checked the map and nowhere in Flagstaff hill is on the planned map, you got me excited to finally get off the crap internet
Try looking it up at mynbn.info, his site is a little more up to date than the nbnco.com.au site, in any case Flagstaff Hill is on the 18 month plan
Mynbn i find a better site in regards of current rollouts and 18 month construction plans for new areas
This is a bit more than just an off-the-top response
Even for NBN.
I am still waiting for response from them sent last week to clarify what these numbers mean. Looks like they are not sure themselves what they figures are spouting these days.
Any info on 3PTO-02? was on build commencing in july 2015, done in q1 2016, now it says dates not avaliable for both, its shaded green and is getting fttn.
Can't wait for the update, want to see where the node in my suburb Kardinya on pop 6Hil (Hilton) will be
No longer says FTTN, but rather says MTM for rollout type?
Any chance it will be more specific?
No longer says FTTN, but rather says MTM for rollout type?
Sorry, no... it technically can't be more specific.
Rollout regions are classed as "Multi-Technology Mix" because technologies vary within a single rollout region. The technology used is defined on an Access Distribution Area (ADA level) -- e.g. 2BLR-01-05
Typically speaking, nbn� does not reveal the actual mix of technologies used until at least 6 months before rollout region is expected to be ready for service.
You can see the technology breakdown by for areas that are expected to be RFS within 6 months by going to their rollout region page (e.g. http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/2BLR-01) and looking under "Premises by technology".
Can't wait for the update, want to see where the node in my suburb Kardinya on pop 6Hil (Hilton) will be
Hi Rosendlek,
The update will not reveal where your node will be. You'll be able to approximate the location of the node by finding your closest Telstra pillar (those silver "torpedo" things on the side of the road).
Jxeeno � are you going to update the mynbn maps to reflect the new build prep areas for FTTN? I just want to see what SAM I will be connected to... Thanks
Hey Idaf,
I'll endeavour to get it updated ASAP, but I cannot guarantee anything.
Apparently my pillar is 500m away, so that would be my probable loop length?
Apparently my pillar is 500m away, so that would be my probable loop length?
Could be longer since the copper cable wouldn't be straight since the cable needs to on footpaths. But if the pillar is visible when looking on the footpath then I would way 500m loop length.
Any ETA on updating current build areas? My area was last updated almost 2 months ago (1st June) and as we've just hit the build drop state I'm keen to see if they're on track or if the ETA is being pushed one way or the other.
@jxeeno, it appears that we now have a network boundary definition of a 'HSAM' for HFC rollouts, will this affect your site at all... whrl.pl/RemmDr
is there anyway to know what node i get connected to or if there is a node i have yet seen?
im in hamlyn terrace and when i drive around there is number of them not far from each other..then there is a whole section of the suburb that doesnt seem to have any nodes in them at all...though its possible i missed one a street somewhere.
We have three on warnervael road, one on primrose, then two on georgia about 100 metres from each other, then one on minnesota and another one about 100 metres from that around the corners on a street name i forget right now...
but then there is a whole block of streets that dont seem to have even one node. by road most of that block would have to be around 1000 metres at least from any node....the biggest distance in this area. personally im about 600 metres at most from a node, so i should be fine..but what about those other houses? i cant see a node...and if there isnt one..are they going to be left without anything???
put your address into https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
it will show you the pillar number, you are connected to..
put your address into https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
it will show you the pillar number, you are connected to..
Yeah, GRKN:64. but that doesnt tell me where the pillar is. i know where a few of them are...which on is mine?
Yeah, GRKN:64. but that doesnt tell me where the pillar is. i know where a few of them are...which on is mine?
well it draws a map outline on a map, look at it and go and walk your area or use google street view, like the rest of us on here have done. Pilars usually have something on them like
DA GRKN 64
Although enlarged pillars just seem to now have
P64 on them
Some of the the greatest tools you have are your eyes and your feet, start using them, rather than trying to get everyone else to try and spoon feed you information
put your address into https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
it will show you the pillar number, you are connected to..
thanks for your help Idaf
My pillar shows the actual number on it, SRTN:40
Some of the the greatest tools you have are your eyes and your feet, start using them, rather than trying to get everyone else to try and spoon feed you information
I totally agree with this comment. Thank you.
@jxeeno, it appears that we now have a network boundary definition of a 'HSAM' for HFC rollouts, will this affect your site at all... whrl.pl/RemmDr
From a database perspective, no.
For the purpose of the MTM rollout, a SAM can be purely one technology (FSAM, CSAM, HSAM, WSAM) or a mix of technologies as per the Multi-Technology Mix.
Any ETA on updating current build areas? My area was last updated almost 2 months ago (1st June) and as we've just hit the build drop state I'm keen to see if they're on track or if the ETA is being pushed one way or the other.
I'll get some updated information up tonight.
Some of the the greatest tools you have are your eyes and your feet, start using them, rather than trying to get everyone else to try and spoon feed you information
If i want information i will ask for it. if you dont like that, instead of continually being rude to me, just skip to the next message
Hey mate, I've been waiting for nbn for a few months now and have been using your site for updates
http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/AYCA-1CQ64Y
This was updated yesterday to ready for service, but ISPs still have no idea what I'm talking about.
Also phoned nbn co and they said it's not ready until August at the earliest.
Are you able to provide any more info on this rollout? Would really love to know what's actually happening.
Cheers for your help.
Hi all,
myNBN.info has been updated with the latest RFS dates and further 18 month rollout plan details (incl expected build commencement and RFS dates).
Let me know if you find any issues.
Thank you jxeeno, very much appreciated.
*edited to add something*
I thought 5CPK-10 started preperation in May 2015 because NBN updates their maps a month late and the 5CPK-03 to 11 was added around 16th of June BUT I can be wrong (most likely will)
Hi Jxeeno. Forgot I had an account so I usually just read your posts as a guest.
Just wanted to say a massive thanks for all your hard work with the site. It's been great to have more detailed info on the rollout.
Appreciate your hard work. Cheers
Build~ Q4 2016
RFS ~ Q2 2017
Build Preparation aka remediation would have be done well before the actual build happens ?
So the build and rfs estimate is subject to change depending on factors
Build Preparation aka remediation would have be done well before the actual build happens ?
Typically, Build Preparation occurs around 3 months before Build commences.
So the build and rfs estimate is subject to change depending on factors
Yes, they are all subject to change. These are best estimates made by nbn at the time of publication.
I thought 5CPK-10 started preperation in May 2015 because NBN updates their maps a month late and the 5CPK-03 to 11 was added around 16th of June BUT I can be wrong (most likely will)
That's possibly correct. Some May 2015 and June 2015 build preparation commencement dates have been a bit out of whack because of some backend code changes. I'll go back and fix these anomalies soon.
This was updated yesterday to ready for service, but ISPs still have no idea what I'm talking about.
Also phoned nbn co and they said it's not ready until August at the earliest.
The area has gone live, however, I'd wait a few more days when nbn updates their maps before ordering. Some ISPs are insistent on your area showing "active" on the NBN map before allowing an order.
Typically, Build Preparation occurs around 3 months before Build commences.
Hmm so roughly July 2016 give or take.
The Telstra exchange in town i expect will need some upgrades for the fftn rollout no doubt
If I use mynbn.info, the result is "Brownfields FTTP. Not (yet) serviceable. Note! This area went live in the past few days. This service qualification information may not be up-to-date. Bespoke Connection Required. Service class 0"
A day or so after posting this, a team of contractors turned up to install the PCD. It turns out that "Bespoke connection required" is code for a separate "specialist" team of contractors.
Some ISPs are insistent on your area showing "active" on the NBN map before allowing an order.
Regarding the above, jxeeno, what's the lag time with NBN and their updated info? My "bespoke connection" has now been completed with the installation of a PCD but according to your fabulous site and my ISP of choice, I'm not ready to be connected (Still "awaiting bespoke connection").
(Yes, I've been relying on mynbn.info for the myriad of information provided!)
A day or so after posting this, a team of contractors turned up to install the PCD. It turns out that "Bespoke connection required" is code for a separate "specialist" team of contractors.
Yep, that's what "bespoke" (meaning custom) means :)
Regarding the above, jxeeno, what's the lag time with NBN and their updated info?
I cannot guarantee the frequency of site-wide addresses being updated on the site because it relies on information finding its way to me, as opposed to me finding the information.
However, you can subscribe to the free notifications subscription service which will notify you within 3 hours of your premises going live. This feature is independent of the status shown on the myNBN site.
The area has gone live, however, I'd wait a few more days when nbn updates their maps before ordering. Some ISPs are insistent on your area showing "active" on the NBN map before allowing an order.
Great, thanks jxeeno, I'll keep an eye on the map.
Just FYI the guy I spoke to at NBN co was quick to dismiss your website as inaccurate, assuring me that their late August estimate was correct.
This thread clearly shows how misinformed they are.
Hmm so roughly July 2016 give or take.
The Telstra exchange in town i expect will need some upgrades for the fftn rollout no doubt
Exchange-based upgrades will mainly be installing a new rack with nbn equipment to provide services to the node.
Remember, the nbn is mostly independent of the Telstra network (although, it will be using the last mile copper from the pillar to the house in FTTN areas).
Very off-topic, and you may not even know yourself, but how many nodes would they install to service a 700 premise town? As mine is slanted for 2H next year. Would they just install nodes at pillar (only seen 2 in the whole town and they are fairly close) or would they install new pillars/nodes where there aren't any in place?
myNBN.info has been updated with the latest RFS dates and further 18 month rollout plan details (incl expected build commencement and RFS dates).
Much appreciated. Looks like I may need to wait for August for the latest updates but at least I know the info is more recent now.
This was updated yesterday to ready for service, but ISPs still have no idea what I'm talking about.
says Juy29
so now fttn launch in Gorokan has been pushed back to November?
what the hell?
they are finished and even the two tech people ive spoken to at nodes have said september.
Yeah July 29th popped up on there last night. NBN Co. are telling me August 12th though.
Either way, glad to be finally getting some proper internet after 3 months.
one day i get real internets again. this rubbish of buying prepaid telstra sims for cheap on ebay is getting silly
so now fttn launch in Gorokan has been pushed back to November?
what the hell?
sorry to say, but I did say that all the info you had been told was not from nbn� but 3rd parties, some with vested interests, aka Telstra to get you signed up, or Liberal pollies trying to promoted themselves and the Liberal mtm
My area has slipped back to December, I will not beileve any dates from anyone until it is actually declared RFS, I can see it slipping into Jan or Feb for a connection, even if it is declared RFS December 1, what with the usual wind down leading up to Christmas, the Christmas break and then the wind back up of industry
How accurate is myNBN compared to NBNco?
How accurate is myNBN compared to NBNco?
No comparison imo
My area has gone RFS on 17 July and I now have an active NBN connnection
NBNCo = Work started in your area in May 2014
myNBN = Not (yet) serviceable Note! This area went live in the past few days. This service qualification information may not be up-to-date. (More info)
I had registered to be notified on both sites and still have received nothing from NBNco while on 17 July I received email notification from myNBN
We're pleased to let you know that nbn� has updated the serviceability status of the following address:
XXXX
This address now has a service class of 2. This means that your premsies is now serviceable by NBN Fibre, already has an external NBN utility box and requires an internal installation.
You should be able to contact a service provider to order an NBN service. You can find a list of service providers by visiting the link below:
so now fttn launch in Gorokan has been pushed back to November?
what the hell?
they are finished and even the two tech people ive spoken to at nodes have said september.
Hi UONStudent,
I simply relay the information provided to me on the website. Dates change for a myriad of reasons, however, these reasons are not communicated externally.
You may also wish to read the disclaimer provided underneath the ready for service date:
Expected Ready for Service Date: This date represents nbn�'s most recently published estimate of when they expect to declare the rollout region "Ready for Service" and be able to take the first customer orders. This date is subject to change due to factors beyond the control of nbn�. Use this information with due caution.
Cheers,
jx
Question about the 18 month plan. 7HOB is listed here as last ready Q4 2016 (http://www.mynbn.info/sa/list/plan/yes/state/TAS), and the 7HOB page says it includes Sandy Bay (the press release also mentions Sandy Bay � http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
oh dear, nbn� latest roll out dates and surprise surprise, the areas in 2WOY listed the other week as being RFS in December 2015 are now listed as Feb 2016.
So, I have seen hinted dates of September, never believed this as it was the announcement date of the product release and the month following the RSP "onboarding"
I have seen published dates of November, December and now February.
so if we take the November date, that is 10 months after the claimed build start date, to now be February, that is now a 12 month build or a slip of 20%
Wonder what the next "slip" will be?
rhetorical question
Are they now doing all in their power to connect as few people as possible before the next election just in case the real world experience incinerates Malcolm's claims of speed etc
rhetorical question
Are they now doing all in their power to connect as few people as possible before the next election just in case the real world experience incinerates Malcolm's claims of speed etc
Probably. Then they could argue, "we didn't have enough users connected to give an accurate scale of speeds."
My area has slipped back to December, I will not beileve any dates from anyone until it is actually declared RFS, I can see it slipping into Jan or Feb for a connection, even if it is declared RFS December 1, what with the usual wind down leading up to Christmas, the Christmas break and then the wind back up of industry
I can also see NBNco announcing these areas going RFS yet RSPs still lagging behind offering a service that can be ordered due to OSS/BSS issues.
If the dates slip on the IT system then that will slow everything down, it really needs to be ready well before the actual area goes RFS so RSPs can onboard etc.
I know you know this D&C, but I think others need to be reminded. There is a fair bit of work in it for RSPs, so much so that some NBNco resellers withdrew their products due to the complexity of integrating the new IT changes.
Thought there was an RFS document with the MTM RFS dates somewhere? Lost the link
edit: should have said the monthly RFS document that revealed the FTTN Trial sites as per
Thought there was an RFS document with the MTM RFS dates somewhere? Lost the link
Jxeeno has published some "extractions of data" over here
So does Telstra only show RFS dates for areas that have build commenced and is that how jxeeno gets the RFS dates for myNBN website because I have seen the document that shows RFS dates.
Hi UONStudent,
I simply relay the information provided to me on the website. Dates change for a myriad of reasons, however, these reasons are not communicated externally.
thanks for the continued info.
ive just given up on any connection it seems
i got my phone disconnected last week after only being on 3 weeks..they say no ports and that there wont be any more connections even if a port comes up.
the techs tell me diffeent things from you...but they are only the boots on the ground and are probably not getitng all the info or research like you do, so im listening to you first :-)
so wow, three more months on tethered internets and probably more when they decide to delay further and into 2016
edit: should have said the monthly RFS document that revealed the FTTN Trial sites as per
http://www.itnews.com.au/N
my heavens, that "node pic" that they have labelled as an "NBN Node", it sure isn't any of the FTTN cabinets that NBN Co Limited have rolled out, it is listed as a T-Fan on Mynetfones site for a greenfields site but it is not a FTTN cabinet.
https://www.mynetfone.com.au
Just another example of the high quality of tech journalism in Australia I fear, they can't even check what the image is, they find it on a site and just use it
Rivervalle ready for service.... Now if only RSP can get their plans ready.
Hey jxeeno, maybe you can help me out here.
Referring to this rollout:
http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/AYCA-1CQ64Y
Everything suggests we should be RFS today, but the area is still brown on the map.
Also TPG still can't find the address and offer any kind of service.
Any idea when NBN co would update their maps and portals to reflect the information of your site?
Cheers mate.
https://www.mynetfone.com.
The image [3] , has 'blue' fibre!! That's Telstra fibre NOT NBN!!
damn my area said 3 weeks ago
First Build in next 18m*
Q2 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q1 2017
and now :(
First Build in next 18m*
Q4 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q3 2017
shakes fist at Malcolm Turnbull & Bill Morrow
Telstra fibre NOT NBN!!
Early NBN deployments using the type 1 fibre architecture also used blue-sheathed fibre optic cable.
Any idea when NBN co would update their maps and portals to reflect the information of your site?
NBNco generally update the maps the following week.
NBNco generally update the maps the following week.
Thanks Glenn. I actually signed up for an NBN plan with you today I believe.
damn my area said 3 weeks ago
First Build in next 18m*
Q2 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q1 2017
and now :(
First Build in next 18m*
Q4 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q3 2017
shakes fist at Malcolm Turnbull & Bill Morrow
This may be a blessing in disguise, if there's a change of government before this, you could end up with FTTP instead.
This may be a blessing in disguise, if there's a change of government before this, you could end up with FTTP instead.
Labor is not going back into a full FTTP rollout again they are going to adopt the MTM rollout.
Source: http://delimiter.com.au/2015/
Labor is not going back into a full FTTP rollout again they are going to adopt the MTM rollout.
Please don't source Delimiter as credible news.
That article is clearly marked "opinion".
Sorry then...
delete
ive looked on this here map http://www.telstrawholesale.c
Its shows three numbers in the yellow area....
where the 95 and 77 are there are those bullet shaped telstra pillars and next to them are node cabinets
im in the area serviced by 64 which has one of those rim cabinets. does this mean i wont get fttn after all? Im gonna be stuck using a wireless dongle for the rest of my bloomin life
No you will get FTTN. Your connection may go through the Nodes at sites 95 or 77.
ive looked on this here map http://www.telstrawholesale.
i've tried to guess what my map would be, any chance there's a 'list' of those docs anywhere?
Labor is not going back into a full FTTP rollout again they are going to adopt the MTM rollout.
Source: http://delimiter.com.au/2015
and then compare this with the statements from the Labor conference (some of which have been posted in, there is a vast difference.)
see here for the Labor Statements, whrl.pl/Remoha
The Delimiter article is an opinion piece
i've tried to guess what my map would be, any chance there's a 'list' of those docs anywhere?
if you go to
https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/ and enter your address or one very close you will see a map and on the left will be some information showing the DA that you are in, the map will give you the DA boundaries. You can also then move the place pin around and get the shapes of other DAs.
From there you can use eyes, feet and google map street view to try and locate your pillar and possible node site
What does Bespoke Connection Required really mean?
NBN has gone live in my area but the NBN website says "There may be an issue at your specific address."
mynbn.info says "Bespoke Connection Required"
There are 5 freestanding units on the block, but all had the outside boxes installed and cables run to the street 6 months to a year ago.
I called a provider and asked a few months back, they said maybe they ran out of connections in the street due to the 5 units, but I think they were just guessing. Alternative theories seem to be a paperwork backlog for MDUs, or wrong information in the database.
Can anyone shed any light? Is it anything that can be hastened by following up, or is it just a case of sit tight and wait?
Thanks for any info,
Andrew
You should call the nbn call centre and ask if you haven't already.
What does Bespoke Connection Required really mean?
Can anyone shed any light? Is it anything that can be hastened by following up, or is it just a case of sit tight and wait?
A "bespoke connection" is a specialised connection. Most houses in my street were relatively simple hook ups from the pole to the house eave. I started to worry when my house appeared to have been skipped, however in my case, "bespoke connection" required a separate team of contractors who specialised in units or other unique underground connections to complete the work.
These guys turned up with ground penetrating radar to locate the route of the comms conduit beneath the driveway and marked out the route with some form of wash away paint. This allowed them to determine the length of the conduit for their draw cable etc.
So, sit tight and wait. They haven't forgotten about your house.
any chance there's a 'list' of those docs anywhere?
Yep sure
http://www.telstrawholesale.
scroll to the bottom, go hunting !!
Krowey
You should call the nbn call centre and ask if you haven't already.
I called them a couple of months back but they couldn't really tell me anything � their best guess was they had run out of connections for the address in the street.
These guys turned up with ground penetrating radar to locate the route of the comms conduit beneath the driveway and marked out the route with some form of wash away paint. This allowed them to determine the length of the conduit for their draw cable etc.
All that stuff was done about a year ago... the fibre from the units to the street is there. I had a long chat to the guys that installed it while they waited for a plumber after nicking a water pipe. That was 6-9 months before the street itself became active.
I have been waiting patiently. I just sometimes wonder whether somebody is waiting for a notification that will never come because there is nothing left to do...
Just a question good people, if in the list of our Service region for 4GLS myNBN is showing combined percentages (Fixed Line) of Service Classes 1 + 3 (to 96% premises count), does this mean a wholly FTTp build ?
I have searched around and it is hard to unlock this snip of info ...
Krowey
How accurate is all the information on mynbn.info? My suburb is shaded in orange, but when I type my address in it says "No rollout plan yet". Is my suburb no longer in the 18 month plan or something?
The rollout hasn't started in your region yet. It will only update when your region is it build prep or build commenced.
Have you recently checked the plan? Was updated 1st of July.
The rollout hasn't started in your region yet. It will only update when your region is it build prep or build commenced.
Have you recently checked the plan? Was updated 1st of July.
Haven't checked it actually (don't know where to find it), but I checked my Service Area then (4MGB) and my suburb is on the Indicative Localities list, if that means anything.
Haven't checked it actually (don't know where to find it), but I checked my Service Area then (4MGB) and my suburb is on the Indicative Localities list, if that means anything.
Hi TheRealFace,
Apologies for the confusion, the map is out of date.
While your area was listed as being in the 18 month plan in April 2015, it has since been removed in the July revision of the plan. nbn� has not provided any reasoning for the removal, however, you may wish to contact them to see if they have anything useful to say about the removal.
I will update the map as soon as possible.
Cheers,
jx
Just a question good people, if in the list of our Service region for 4GLS myNBN is showing combined percentages (Fixed Line) of Service Classes 1 + 3 (to 96% premises count), does this mean a wholly FTTp build ?
Hi ClaudeKrowe,
Those percentage and figures are only applicable to rollouts currently in place (i.e. areas in build or build prep). It does not account for areas that are in the 18 month plan... because nbn� does not release technology mix information to the public.
However, I am told that early modelling of the 4GLS area will have ~9% FTTP and the rest FTTN.
Hope that helps.
It does not account for areas that are in the 18 month plan... because nbn� does not release technology mix information to the public.
However, I am told that early modelling of the 4GLS area will have ~9% FTTP and the rest FTTN
Thanks for clarifying that jxeeno,
I can only hope that the lucky number 9 that popped up for me when i was in my youth follows me 39 - 40 years hence
Ha Ha
Krowey
I have a question for you Jxeeno, I live on a boarder of 6MDR-06/07 and I'm fairly close to 6MDR-06-12 I was wondering if there was any chance I could get put onto that box instead of waiting for my area (fiber already going to that box atm) would there be any point in contacting NBN directly to ask or should I just wait?
nope. not going to happen.
I live on a boarder border of 6MDR-06/07
any chance I could get put onto that box instead of waiting for my area
Have you any concept of the amount of work and expense that would be required to shift the line from your current pillar or cabinet to another one?
Have you any concept of the amount of work and expense that would be required to shift the line from your current pillar or cabinet to another one?
Well considering I'm asking the question shouldn't it be obvious... sorry I don't know everything such as yourself.
would there be any point in contacting NBN directly to ask
Hi Daniel,
being a huge ask to connect up enormous numbers of householders in the entire continent (Tasmania included) having customers contact nbn direct, I think they recognise that would swamp them. I understand the argument you are making though.
The best thing is to wait for the householder communication from nbn (at Ready for Service) and then contact your preferred ISP direct for an nbn connection.
ALSO
Could I just make a community wide request to please just respect others when you post, not all members who read in here are versed with supreme levels of knowledge and if we lambast people it will make it less welcoming for newcomers to the forums
Thanks
ClaudeKrowe
Apparently the 3LEO-51-09 Ruby fixed wireless site (Leongatha, VIC area) has been switched on for over a month (eg. refer http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3LEO-51-09-RUBY ).
Does anyone know why NBN are so tardy in showing the active extent of this site on their rollout map?
Apparently the 3LEO-51-09 Ruby fixed wireless site (Leongatha, VIC area) has been switched on for over a month (eg. refer http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3LEO-51-09-RUBY ).
Does anyone know why NBN are so tardy in showing the active extent of this site on their rollout map?
I've just done another check, and I'm confident that the area is online.
Could you help me confirm by going to http://www.devotednbn.com.au/sq and performing a service qualification of your address to see if you can get a service?
Does anyone know why NBN are so tardy in showing the active extent of this site on their rollout map?
because their rollout map uses Google Maps and not their own database
Could you help me confirm by going to http://www.devotednbn.com.au/sq and performing a service qualification of your address to see if you can get a service?
Not possible.
The boundary to our land lies 10 m outside the NBN mapped area currently served by 3LE0=51-09 (that zone is marked purple). Our house is 70 m outside the corresponding wireless coverage area. Because we have a clear line of sight to both of these wireless towers from our rooftop, I asked Aussie Broadband to try & get us onto the NBN coverage map (they seemed fairly positive about getting us onto the map - eventually).
The Ruby tower is actually a bit closer to us (8.9 km) and I was wondering why the Ruby area isn't marked purple yet. Addresses in the orange area around Ruby simply show as build currently in progress - ie on NBNco map (eg. addresses on Ruby Arawata Rd, Ruby). However the Ruby tower was supposedly turned on on July 7. EDIT { Your link shows Ruby addresses as having service available. }
I was simply checking to see if our land had been added to the fixed wireless active zone & I wondered why the map at Ruby hasn't turned purple yet.
I was simply checking to see if our land had been added to the fixed wireless active zone & I wondered why the map at Ruby hasn't turned purple yet.
Ahh okay, yeah. Ruby is definately online, but nbn�'s maps still haven't been updated yet (not sure why though).
If you're really keen to see the colour change, you can contact nbn� about it :) There's not a lot I can do to help the process.
Would anyone have info regarding the rollout in 2190 (NSW) ?
Would anyone have info regarding the rollout in 2190 (NSW) ?
nothing listed for brownfields via www.mybnb.info
and nothing showing via www.nbnco.com.au
Looks like 9QBN-05 has been updated on the Telstra list.
Moved forward from February to 18th December 2015?
9QBN-05 Queanbeyan, Queanbeyan West, Karabar ACT Queanbeyan CSA 18-Dec-2015
https://www.telstrawholesale
Does that line up with what you see, jxeeno?
Cheers!
Getting an error message when I try looking at the ADA ID info http://www.mynbn.info/ada/6MDR-06-02.
Getting an error message when I try looking at the ADA ID info
When you get closer to RFS, they will all appear. My area is RFS 2nd October, the ADA info only appeared just over a month or so ago.
all i know is this time time next year i'll still be here where i am now..... dsl..
Getting an error message when I try looking at the ADA ID info http://www.mynbn.info/ada/6MDR-06-02.
Sorry about that... page has now been generated :)
@jxeeno
Should I read anything into the fact that the DeVoted SQ tool shows my property as "Service Class 0" i.e. set for FTTP, but myNBN does not..?
The myNBN site shows that the general area I'm in will eventually be getting FTTN (part of the 18 month plan which keeps slipping further behind). Though there are several greenfields all around me already active with FTTP, and this whole area would have been one of the first ones in the country for going all FTTP (until the change of Govt' threw that out the window).
I wonder if DeVoted are thus basing theirs on some out-dated info' in some locations.
Anyway, thanks for providing such a great site and all the effort you put in. Much appreciated.
I wonder if DeVoted are thus basing theirs on some out-dated info' in some locations.
In short, while DeVoteD NBN queries nbn's database directly � until your area enters build/build preparation, nbn's database doesn't necessarily reflect which technology you will end up getting.
Seems to be a couple of 'super nodes' in 2HAM-09. Able to reach several hundreds of premises in a single node. Look, down on the path, its a box, its a fridge...
ADA ID Status Technology Active on* P's# Serviceable^ Connected^
2HAM-09-13 Inactive copper 628 0 (None) 0 (None)
2HAM-09-14 Inactive copper 1145 0 (None) 0 (None)
Seems to be a couple of 'super nodes' in 2HAM-09. Able to reach several hundreds of premises in a single node. Look, down on the path, its a box, its a fridge...
An ADA does not necessarily represent the area represented by a single node. In this case, there are multiple nodes in 2HAM-09-14.
362 Glebe Road has 422 units, 364 Glebe Rd has another 516 units each which will likely be served by several FTTB "nodes" inside the premises.
For all intents and purposes, they will be part of the 2HAM-09-14 ADA... but will eventually be forked off into a separate MPS (multi-premises site) ADA when the rollout is completed.
is there any news regarding 9MNS FSA?
is there any news regarding 9MNS FSA?
According to the latest corporate plan, most of the build in ACT has been pushed off till after 2018 � but the company has not specified which specific ACT areas this impacts.
For all intents and purposes, they will be part of the 2HAM-09-14 ADA... but will eventually be forked off into a separate MPS (multi-premises site) ADA when the rollout is completed.
What about other areas where there is one large-ish MDU in the area?
e.g. the 2HAM-12-11 ADA has a 96-unit MDU in it which make up a part of the 318 premises total. The 2HAM-12-11-FNO-001 node has appeared up on the street a block or so away. The DA is currently fed by a RIM, HAMN:DA20 which seems to map to the same area.
Will an extra node magically appear do you think? And when, considering all the other nodes around here seem to be pretty close to completion. Alternatively who can we ask about this?
Ah yes, MDU/MPS makes sense now, thanks for that. So the current count of ADAs now is really the minimum number of "nodes" so far.
It will be interesting to watch that information evolve as it will answer a few questions around:
- when (what situation or premises count) they'd deploy in-building FTTB
- when they'd stick an extra node nearby to perhaps share between several MDUs and
- when the MDU just has to share the ordinary node connected to the local pillar.
What about other areas where there is one large-ish MDU in the area?
e.g. the 2HAM-12-11 ADA has a 96-unit MDU in it which make up a part of the 318 premises total. The 2HAM-12-11-FNO-001 node has appeared up on the street a block or so away. The DA is currently fed by a RIM, HAMN:DA20 which seems to map to the same area.
14 Milford St has 101-subpremises � so that unit block will get its own FTTB DSLAM. At a later date, that may be forked off as a separate MPS ADA for reporting purposes... but is technically still part of the 2HAM-12-11 ADA.
The remaining 217 premises will be connected using the 384 port node (2HAM-12-11-FNO-001) that you've found.
Will an extra node magically appear do you think? And when, considering all the other nodes around here seem to be pretty close to completion. Alternatively who can we ask about this?
I don't see why an extra node will need to appear.
Ah yes, MDU/MPS makes sense now, thanks for that. So the current count of ADAs now is really the minimum number of "nodes" so far.
You could infer that, I guess. An ADA almost always corresponds with the area serviced by a Telstra DA... within it, network designs allow for multiple DSLAMs (nodes) for different purposes like FTTB in MDUs.
Will an extra node magically appear do you think?
^
so that unit block will get its own FTTB DSLAM
That answers my question :) - in this case a FTTB DSLAM appears and not a full on node.
I suppose the nomination that the build is "FTTN" when it can include portions of FTTB is a bit confusing but it seems like there is no real easy way to find this out.
Edit: Still more information than just "fixed line" though, which I'm thankful for :)
I suppose the nomination that the build is "FTTN" when it can include portions of FTTB is a bit confusing but it seems like there is no real easy way to find this out.
Yeah, I think it really should be FTTx rather than FTTN � but NBN insists on using FTTN as the classification.
Hmm, I've missed something. Some MPSes are listed as "High Value Build", what does this mean? I can see FTTB listed, but wondering about that description.
I interpreted it as "NBN for people that live in very expensive (that's the "high value") apartments" :)
I interpreted it as "NBN for people that live in very expensive (that's the "high value") apartments" :)
It's the selected build of multi premises sites (or MDUs) that are considered competitive. It's in response to the likes of TPG who are building their own networks in the lucrative inner-city market.
in the lucrative inner-city
jxeeno,
Just to draw your attention from city fttb back out to Regional QLD for a mo
Particularly 4GLS � GLADSTONE, as it is now 1-9 and read somewhere october (starting)
Any news on 4GLS Service Classes or other data like such. According to the NBN Bundy forum threads they are very well advanced there and move up to here next, from what I read, between the lines
Keen to see the trucks with the big rolls of bright green cable
Does anyone know what UPLOAD speeds a typical fttN home connection gets?
Thanks
Krowey
Hi All,
I just have a general question as I'm currently in a brownfields estate where Telstra has commenced work on repairing pits etc. in order for us to get NBN (FTTN) now on the 18 month plan.
Considering I'm on what is classed as a 'semi-rural' property how exactly can I locate where my nearest pillar and possible node site is?
I do currently have ADSL2 which was recently 'upgraded' via a tophat (now I get 6mbps) so is that the location where my FTTN would then jump onto copper?
As I need to increase my upload capacity I'm thinking about lodging a request with NBN for a FTTP estimate due to my speed issue relating to length and quality of copper now.
I did read that this would be cheaper when logged during the planning phase but would like an idea of roughly how far away the node would be.
Thanks in advance
how exactly can I locate where my nearest pillar and possible node site is?
http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au/
Plug your address in and around the red boundry is where a Pillar should be.
Plug your address in and around the red boundry is where a Pillar should be.
Many thanks for that, but my address simply draws a straight line back to the exchange (which I presume means I am connected directly to the exchange)
That looks like a long cable run for FTTH
I do currently have ADSL2 which was recently 'upgraded' via a tophat (now I get 6mbps) so is that the location where my FTTN would then jump onto copper?
Ignore above, adsl2exchanges is useless for cabinets.
Punch address into:
https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
That will narrow down your DA, which will be the location of your cabinet. It won't pinpoint it, but should narrow it down a lot for you to have a look next time you drive round the area. The tophat upgrades are glaringly obvious as it's usually a really old discoloured cabinet with a brand new cabinet 'hat' plonked on top. From there, measure along roads back to your place. At a guess about ~3.5km or so cable length based on your sync.
Upload capacity will likely increase, however you aren't going to have a particularly great FTTN experience if they don't move or add in any new cabinets unfortunately.
Upload capacity will likely increase, however you aren't going to have a particularly great FTTN experience if they don't move or add in any new cabinets unfortunately.
Many thanks for your help kind sir, You are almost spot on (my cabinet is approx 3.2km away.
I'm guess due to the low density residential element literally on 'this side of the road' (the other is all full fibre Greenfields) that my only chance to improve this would be for NBN Fibre on demand.
4km of fibre could cost a pretty penny � I'll see what they have to say.
4km of fibre could cost a pretty penny � I'll see what they have to say.
I haven't checked in a while, but I think the deal was if you were scheduled for FTTN you had to wait till that happened first. I could very much be wrong however.
And no problemo, glad you found it :)
Sorry Dan, I accidently linked you to the wrong thing. Thats my fault for not having my morning coffee. :P Lucky, Lukey caught onto my mistake.
Many thanks for your help kind sir, You are almost spot on (my cabinet is approx 3.2km away.
I'm guess due to the low density residential element literally on 'this side of the road' (the other is all full fibre Greenfields) that my only chance to improve this would be for NBN Fibre on demand.
This is a bit off track for this thread, but the other thing to consider in this situation is how far away all the other premises in your DA are from that cabinet? I've seen many cases where the existing cabinet is hundreds of metres, if not more, from the nearest premises in the DA. Often when served by a cabinet there is no corresponding pillar either, or the cabinet is shared by multiple DAs where one gets a pillar and the other doesn't.
I'd suggest they would likely install the node and possibly a new pillar at a more central/closer aggregation point (as has happened elsewhere) if the distance is that great to most premises in the DA. 1km+ from the node is going to test the viability of VDSL, let alone 3km! I'd be waiting to see what happens first.
This is a bit off track for this thread
Agreed an apologies to the op (mods feel free to move where applicable)
In my area I'm probably in the same position as approximately 30% of users connected to that cabinet (some are further away)
It will be interesting to see what they do as the average block width in my area is 60 � 70m wide so we are spread out considerably.
I appreciate your detailed response and part of my thinking as it is in planning stage this is the apparently the cheapest time to apply, yet my application mat result in me wearing unnecessary cost (as they were going to install new hardware anyway, but now we have someone else to pay for it.
Next time I see the technicians out I'll have a chat as they have all been incredibly helpful when I've asked them a question in the past about it.
@jxeeno � Just a quick message to say thank you for all of the valuable information you have provided with regards to the nbn rollout. My area (2DAP-06) went live today and out of all of the RSPs and websites I asked to notify me of when it went live, you guys are the only ones I have received notification from. Awesome work and again, Thank You.
Hey Jex, when can we expect the map/RFS updates? thanks :)
that sweet green cable is getting laid in my street in the last couple of days (6MDR-07) yay!
Hey Jex, when can we expect the map/RFS updates? thanks :)
that sweet green cable is getting laid in my street in the last couple of days (6MDR-07) yay!
Currently expecting it next Friday or the Monday after :) It's a bit of a wobbly week of updates though... with the expected long term rollout plan and also public holidays.
Hi jxeeno,
The wireless towers appear to be missing from the mynbn.info map. Is an update in progress?
regards
TheGruff
The wireless towers appear to be missing from the mynbn.info map. Is an update in progress?
Ahh, sorry about that. Issue has been fixed in the back now, but will take a short while for Google to update their map caching.
Thanks, now working, and wireless tower information also now displays as well.
A new nbn map update has come out. Just reminding Jxeeno anyways nice work on the website love the look.
Could someone with a little more knowledge about the rollout, particularly wireless areas, explain what's happening with the rollout in some places?
The example being Cohuna in Victoria (and some towns in the surrounding areas). There's a Wireless coverage area surrounding the town which is indicated by the maps as being "Build Commenced", but the actual township is displayed as if it's not covered and any address check reports the roll out not having started yet.
Is this something to do with the planning process, a map or data glitch, or something else completely? What's really happening for these towns like this?
Is this something to do with the planning process
I'd say so � Wikipedia gives town population of 2,313 . Almost certainly too dense for fixed wireless base station coverage.
A FW base station can generally handle only a few hundred connections.
Cohuna will probably have to wait along with many other small towns in regional areas. I guess FFTN (or some other technology) might appear in due course.
Could someone with a little more knowledge about the rollout
Not entirely sure and cannot say 100%. Usually this happens for areas that will be serviced by fixed line in the future. But, there may be a chance it could be serviced by satelite.
Hi jxeeno,
Just a query with the mynbn.info rollout map, when I put my address in you return no service information, but if I use http://www.devotednbn.com.au/sq it returns service class 4 and proposed footprint, the location ID's returned in both systems are the same.
regards
TheGruff
It seems the site is borked :)
Returning a 404
Now it is hanging/slow. Seems Jxeeno is fiddling.
It seems the site is borked :)
Returning a 404
devotednbn.com.au/sq is all good for me
devotednbn.com.au/sq is all good for me
I'm referring to myNBN (which is what this thread is about).
I'm referring to myNBN (which is what this thread is about).
I have no problem with that also. Maybe problem at your end or with your ISP.
been there for some time :) well before Delimiter had published the data.
Cheers mate.
It's been there for some time :) well before Delimiter had published the data.
The 3 year plan RFS and Build Start dates including the millions of HFC rollout to premise planned by Sep 2018.
Check out that delimiter spreadsheet and all its tabs and reconfirm
Are you sure you've even got this data?
Your Site does not show the HFC planned for my area in the address checker and only refers to the 18 month plan.
Your Site does not show the HFC planned for my area in the address checker and only refers to the 18 month plan.
Go to the "3Yr Plan" tab on the top menu and the info is there broken down by state, serving area etc
Go to the "3Yr Plan" tab on the top menu and the info is there broken down by state, serving area etc
I was looking at mynbn.info from an iphone where unlike the desktop version, there is no "tab" for the 3 year plan option. And what you get on the screen is the "Check where the NBN is coming to you".
This mobile version only takes you to the 18 month plan and is missing the 3 year info that the desktop version has on the same equivalent map.
On the mobile version the 3 year info is accessed from a menu represented by a 3 horizontal line icon and not obvious when you go to the entry page which tempts you to type in your address in the address checker.
Also noting that whereas my suburb is only listed as HFC on the 3 year data Delimiter released, my street address on the mynbn.info results in both HFC and FTTN as possible. This is because the Service area for my suburb has one of the suburbs planned to get FTTX and the rest HFC, which for some reason the mynbn website has not split up into suburb specific even though I put my suburb name into the address checker.
This mobile version only takes you to the 18 month plan and is missing the 3 year info that the desktop version has on the same equivalent map.
The map actually shows the 3 year construction plan � but is labeled incorrectly on the map legend. I'll get this fixed soon.
which for some reason the mynbn website has not split up into suburb specific even though I put my suburb name into the address checker.
There's a lot of redevelopment going on in the background so that the site can handle the two technologies in the 3 year plan. Currently, it's able to handle current rollout areas with different technologies � but not future areas with different technologies.
It's not really possible to determine and spit out which access technology you'd be using simply by correlating suburb names alone. I'm working on a geospatial solution by estimating HFC boundaries, but it'll take some time to complete.
Hope you can appreciate the mammoth task that awaits me :)
Hope you can appreciate the mammoth task that awaits me :)
Much appreciated.
In the NBNCo 3 year RFS and Construction Start Date data that Delimiter released last week, if a suburb is only every listed once under the 4 tabs with only one technology (i.e HFC), it is possible that another part of that suburb will get a different technology with build commencing/ending after 3 years.
To map the data against suburb, you'd need to take the rows of data with more than one suburb and split them up into rows of data for each of the suburbs listed in the single field. (into a relational database format). Then you can easily correlate/map the planned indicative technology type(s) with the suburb name.
To map the data against suburb, you'd need to take the rows of data with more than one suburb and split them up into rows of data for each of the suburbs listed in the single field. (into a relational database format). Then you can easily correlate/map the planned indicative technology type(s) with the suburb name.
The current algorithm is a bit more complicated than that, so it's not as easy to implement as one may think :) Be rest assured, I'm working on improving the map. In the meantime, the data is available on the detailed Service Area pages.
May I ask but where do you get the RFS sources from jxeeno?
May I ask but where do you get the RFS sources from jxeeno?
I don't want to speak on behalf of jxeeno, but Telstra publish tentative RFS dates here:
http://telstrawholesale.com.
Download the top xlsx, the 2nd worksheet has expected RFS.
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to see what I'm getting now? 2BER is my place (BERO) and it shows both FTTP and FTTN as roll-out?
jxeeno: when I look up my address in mynbn.info (Bundeena NSW) the map says we are on the three year plan (correct), and that it covers Bundeena and Kurnell (again, correct).
However, it lists the number of premises as 43,600 which is VASTLY more premises than the entire population of Bundeena and Kurnell. The 3 year plan at nbnco.com.au says the number of premises in the Bundeena, Kurnell NBN plan is only 3,600.
link: http://www.mynbn.info/map?add
compare to: NSW Cronulla Bundeena Kurnell 3600 FTTN H1-2017
on page: http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn
Personally, I've worked really hard to discuss with NBN if it's possible to release data � and my conclusion is that it won't happen under the current management. I've sent dozens of emails, sent letters directly to CEO Bill Morrow pleading him to make small amounts of data public � they simply aren't interested.
Did you ever get a reply back from Morrow?
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to see what I'm getting now? 2BER is my place (BERO) and it shows both FTTP and FTTN as roll-out?
FTTN.
FTTN.
See here.
Yeap it's always shown FTTN but now that it's actually progressing on this site, there are 2 SAMs where one appears to be FTTN (current) and the other FTTP (planned). I don't know which I fall under..
Hi jxeeno,
question for you � How long before the ' take up' graphs start populating?
Reason I ask is the fixed wireless towers in my area came online in June http://www.mynbn.info/sa/2GUL, however The 'Take Up' graphs are yet to show anything. mynbn.info has service class 5/6 figures which I guess is what the graphs use?
thanks.
FTTN.
So it says I'll be getting HFC in my area (cable I'm guessing?). Some parts of our area have cable but in my part of the suburb there is no cable at all. I've tried getting cable in the past and was told I had to get it via satellite (no power poles, etc). Does this mean they will be rolling out cable in our streets as well or going with FTTN? Or does it mean I'll just randomly get forgotten? :P
Sir Digby Chicken Caesar writes...
Does this mean they will be rolling out cable in our streets as well or going with FTTN?
Who knows? The technology used will depend on what the relevant comms. engineer decides based on your existing local infrastructure.
The only thing you can be sure of is that, one way or the other, you will get on the NBN network (eventually).
we got our(3WER-05) ready for service from yesterday. Very impressed, NBN brought it forward by almost 3 weeks as previously it was planned not until 27th Nov.
Don't mean to sound mean, but just recently jxeenos website stated nbn servicable now in theory? (that data couldn't be accurate by 1 week right? because i spoke to skymesh.)because a few isp stated "even with your address we cannot get confirmation, and mynnbnco is non affilitated site. so all you can do is keep up todate" total bogus, mynbn website makes nbnco website a crap site.
So how behind is nbnco if mynbn 1 week ahead.( and a few isp will not take the plunge)
Don't mean to sound mean, but just recently jxeenos website stated nbn servicable now in theory?
Who are you not trying to sound mean about?
Find your post a tad confusing
myNBN had my place as active first before NBN and before most if not all ISPs
When myNBN flagged my property as RFS did a poll around RSPs and found that iINET also said my place was active BUT there online application would not process and had to do it over the phone
Keep in mind that my experience is just one anecdote and many others will have a different experience � when an area goes RFS it just means a large percentage of properties are serviceable not all of them
When it is all said and done myNBN is just another source of information that may or may not be of help to you
I did a search o MyNBN regarding my location (Ouyen, Victoria) & it says we are going to get FTTN, I want to know will there be only one node for our town or will every street have one.
Casper The Savannah Cat writes...
I did a search o MyNBN regarding my location (Ouyen, Victoria) & it says we are going to get FTTN, I want to know will there be only one node for our town or will every street have one.
start at this site https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
enter your address and it will give you a map of copper Distribution areas, not the DA number.
then move the pin around your town to different locations and note all the DA numbers.
I seem to get 7 DAs in the town and including some of the outskirts, but it seems there are actually 8 plus a maybe a RIM
DA Town State Premises
OUYN:1 OUYEN VIC 71
OUYN:2 OUYEN VIC 86
OUYN:3 OUYEN VIC 44
OUYN:4 OUYEN VIC 66
OUYN:5 OUYEN VIC 127
OUYN:6 OUYEN VIC 156
OUYN:8 OUYEN VIC 184
OUYN:BQP33942 OUYEN VIC 86
going by those numbers and the size of the town and the fact that it seems most in town can get over 20 Mbps on ADSL, I can see some DA consolidation taking place
there will be more than 1 node I would guess around 4 or maybe 5 nodes installed
Okay seems a bespoke connections required. Most isp will not bother, what does it mean for unit complexs.
Isnt a mdu situated or placed inside most units power box and then wired up inside the building daisyd floor by floor.
If thats the case where does the internal mdu come from.
I got the impression fttp was (node to mdu via fibre) but seems its ( node to mdu & fibre to internal mdu? or is that ffttb.) sooo confusing.
I've been keeping an eye on MyNBN for awhile now and in the last couple of months my address has gone from Ready For Serivce @ 01.03.2016 to RFS@ Q1 2016. Today the site says it was RFS as of 10.12.15. It is possible the date could jump forward so far?
NBNCO.com.au just says build started Sept 15
Called Telstra and the guy said he uses both sites but wasn't sure and that I should ring NBNco.
Called NBNco and that guy said if the build only started in September 15 that it would probably be mid to late 2016 before it was RFS.
Went for a drive and there is definitely a tower which wasn't there a month or two ago (painted with red and white stripes, I guess because there is an airport nearby).
Should I be getting excited? (I'm on 3G 18gb p/month for $81 and I only get around 50% signal) Or do I possibly still have a lengthy wait on my hands?
Thanks
there is definitely a tower which wasn't there a month or two ago
That means its on its way � but its anyones guess when it'll go RFS.
My tower went up almost 12 months before it went RFS.
There is another tower down the road that went up a month before mine, yet is still in build (that'll 2 years in April)
That means its on its way � but its anyones guess when it'll go RFS.
Does the fact that it says RFS on MyNBN.info, suggest it should be very soon or is it quite often wrong?
Does the fact that it says RFS on MyNBN.info, suggest it should be very soon or is it quite often wrong?
Hey Gurras,
We don't get it wrong too often, however, our automated checker does occasionally jump the gun if there's a nearby fixed wireless tower that has gone live.
Could you please whim or post the tower's region ID so I can do further checks?
Cheers,
jx
thanks for the replies
Could you please whim or post the tower's region ID so I can do further checks?
Rollout ID 2BTH-51-06-GLAM
ADA ID 2BTH-51-06-GLAM-00-03
Rollout ID 2BTH-51-06-GLAM
Thanks for sending this through. Sorry, it does look like we jumped the gun a bit with this fixed wireless site.
The issue was that one of the addresses originally assigned to this tower (along Laffing Waters Lane) was re-assigned to the 2BTH-51-02-BTEH rollout area. The automated checker than presumed that meant your tower went live, where as in fact, it hadn't. I hope this makes sense.
I have fixed the database accordingly. Sorry about the confusion and thanks for the flag!
Cheers,
jx
Sorry, it does look like we jumped the gun a bit with this fixed wireless site.
Dammit! Was getting excited.
Thanks for the quick reply though, at least I wont be pulling my hair out trying to get connected.
Dammit! Was getting excited.
Thanks for the quick reply though, at least I wont be pulling my hair out trying to get connected.
The latest date for 2BTH-51-06-GLAM is 31st Jan 2016. If you haven't already, you can subscribe to the notification service which actually checks if your address is ready for service before notifying you :)
The latest date for 2BTH-51-06-GLAM is 31st Jan 2016.
That's not too bad I guess :)
you can subscribe to the notification service
I have done on the NBNco site.
Thanks again
The issue was that one of the addresses originally assigned to this tower (along Laffing Waters Lane) was re-assigned to the 2BTH-51-02-BTEH rollout area.
Hi Jxeeno,
2BTH-51-06-GLAM is on Limekilns Road, and I was getting exited as well, FW for Christmas. Q1 2016 is still good though. Went to work one morning, no tower. There on the way home.
Laffing Waters Lane is about halfway between those 2 towers.
Any idea why 2COR-08 is listed as MTM even though it was FTTP yesterday? My address still shows as FTTP though :) :)
Has the nbn official site radically changed such that it no longer shows a usable map of your location?
http://www.nbnco.com.au/conn
Has the nbn official site radically changed such that it no longer shows a usable map of your location?
yeah.
colours have gone
area of map is greatly reduced
not able to see the status of what is available nearby
I guess it is more transparent as all you can see is the base map and no other information
edit:- oh and also the date they say the build commenced for my area is also wrong as nodes were being rolled out and connected 2 to 3 months before the date they use for "build commenced"
I guess it is more transparent
Totally ... not!
Thank goodness for jxeeno.
Totally ... not!
Thank goodness for jxeeno.
far less info availablel than before, there is so little on the map now they would have been better to ditch it all together and just use the timeline that they have underneath it
My are apparently goes RTS FEB 5 (according to Telstra Wholesale), less than 7 weeks, yet nbn� can't even put that on the timeline.
Guess it makes it easy for nbn� to claim they are meeting their targets, especially as they only now seem to publish RFS dates after they actually make an area ready
Has the nbn official site radically changed such that it no longer shows a usable map of your location?
I agree.
The NBN is run by Shitmen NFI in my opinion.
Any idea why 2COR-08 is listed as MTM even though it was FTTP yesterday? My address still shows as FTTP though :) :)
My checks show that 2COR-08 has become "MTM" because ~100 premises in an MDU will be serviced by FTTB. The rest will remain FTTP.
My checks show that 2COR-08 has become "MTM" because ~100 premises in an MDU will be serviced by FTTB. The rest will remain FTTP.
Any idea if it is one building or several buildings? The only building that looks to be close to ~100 premises would be Stockland Corrimal.
Also, starting to notice Build Commenced dates for areas that NBNCo have not reported as being announced (e.g. 2PKE-02 Build Commenced 11 Jan 2016). Are these dates accurate or estimations?
Hi guys,
I noticed that my NBN fixed wireless tower at Numurkah has gone RFS as of 16th December.
3NMK-51-04-NUMU � Numurkah
I am within its region, however the NBN website hasn't updated as yet stating thats its RFS.
What should I expect?, ie keep checking the nbnco website until it updates?, or does this not really mean i'll have NBN fixed wireless anytime soon?.
Cheers
The nbn map only update activations once a week. If the MyNBN map says its active, then its active and you can order.
Rang NBN today and they didn't know anything about my tower going live and couldnt help me.
guess it hasnt gone RFS after all :)
guess it hasnt gone RFS after all
mynbn.info says your tower is active now. This site is rarely wrong and usually ahead of the nbnco map. It might be worth ringing a few RSPs such as iinet and seeing whether you can place an order. Some but not all RSPs can access the internal NBN databases.
Rang NBN today and they didn't know anything about my tower going live and couldnt help me.
guess it hasnt gone RFS after all :)
Dont believe a word they say, there run by people who go looking for stripe paint....my area is ready to go live next month i emailed them to ask if its still on schedule, there reply was that my area isnt on there 3 year map.
Lol no worries guys cheers.
I will do some ringing around today.
Hmm rang around and its a no goer :(
Its been a week now and the nbnco website hasn't updated to match mynbn's site for the RFS flag.
Guess it was too good to be true.
Its been a week now and the nbnco website hasn't updated to match mynbn's site for the RFS flag.
the mynbn.info site is showing that work will not even commence for your town until 2017
the mynbn.info site is showing that work will not even commence for your town until 2017
Same with all the HFC, nothing till late 2016 at the earliest for anyone! Faster my a$$!
What should I expect?, ie keep checking the nbnco website until it updates?, or does this not really mean i'll have NBN fixed wireless anytime soon?.
Sorry about that... looks like it suffered from the same problem as /forum-replies.cfm?t=2104304&p=78#r1549
I'll implement a more vigorous checking system for fixed wireless as it seems there's quite a bit of footprint fiddling before an area goes ready for service.
Currently, the date provided by nbn is end of this month. I wouldn't expect it to go live till January (who works during the new year break?)
the mynbn.info site is showing that work will not even commence for your town until 2017
The town centre won't... but surrounding areas will be serviced by fixed wireless before that
Hey Jxeeno,
Some Brownfields 3 Year rollout markers on myNBN map say just FTTN and others, like the one that covers me, says FTTN,FTTP. Does it just say both technologies because there are FTTP Greenfield estates surrounding me (I'm literally encircled in a less than 1 km radius by FTTP estates) ?
Good news, just checked and the tower has gone live and we can now in fact put an order in according to the official NBN website.
Will put an order in and see what happens.
Cheers guys.
Why is the FTTN section of mynbn down?
Why is the FTTN section of mynbn down?
maybe because the modelling has become inaccurate?
Just wondering if there is an issue with 2HAM-08. it has been saying RFS on 8/12/15 however the NBNCO page (plus NBNCO customer service (via email), TPG and Exetel) and the Telstra spreadsheet are all saying not yet (or Jan 22). All the surrounding SAMs are also saying 22-jan on mynbn and elsewhere so i'm suspecting a localised issue??
http://telstrawholesale.com
All the surrounding SAMs are also saying 22-jan on mynbn and elsewhere so i'm suspecting a localised issue??
Pretty sure that almost all RFS dates were pushed back at some point. Maybe even a couple of times. myNBN seems to be fairly updated on that.
I've received hardcopy flyers that I can now order broadband over nbn.
The nbnco website indicate we are connected and can switch to their infrastructure.
Checking my address mynbn.info indicates no rollout schedule available, however the map has my building in purple, ie: Ready for Service.
Only iiNet appears able to detect that I'm connected: Telstra, Optus, AusBBS, Belong all think we're not.
Is there issues with apartment buildings and numbers?
Or is there an issue with FTTB connections?
Checking my address mynbn.info
what does the official nbn� site say when you put in your address?
http://www.nbnco.com
what does the official nbn� site say when you put in your address?
Zilch
what does the official nbn� site say when you put in your address?
http://www.nbnco.com
Great news! You can now switch to the nbn� network.
...
Your address will be connected to the nbn� network via fixed line technology.
I'm in an MDU so FTTB should be the technology used. I cannot remember which page i saw this on, but it stated that it used both fibre and copper for the connection.
I cannot remember which page i saw this on, but it stated that it used both fibre and copper for the connection.
Fibre to the basement, if you have one. And a node will be installed there, connecting to your existing copper.
Fibre to the basement, if you have one. And a node will be installed there, connecting to your existing copper.
or as has seen to be done in Woy Woy and Newcastle, a seperate node out the front in the street for the MDU
a seperate node out the front in the street for the MDU
Or even the same node used to service many others in the neighbourhood
Has the same problem occurred to 7CYE-51-08-GEEV?
I checked myNBN last week & it said service would be available end of Feb.. checked again today & now its saying its available as of 2 days ago :/
TIA!
edit: sorry, I have no idea how to quote a post! :(
Hey all,
So I have a question. The MyNBN Info tells me that the tower I can see from my front door is active, but the map shows I can't get Fixed Wireless. My line of thought is that at the roadside � no, we can't see the tower, but up on the hill where my house sits, I can see it out my lounge room window!
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
Any assistance would be great.
Not sure whether its worth editing, but you show 8NLN-01 as ready for service on the 16th December. NBN Co made a mistake declaring it ready for service and the earliest date for connections to commence is now 11/01/16
Caused a flow on effect of confusion as RSP's were relying on the info from NBN Co and booking activations � which couldnt actually happen and led to some pretty angry consumers!
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
Any assistance would be great.
The tower may be active, but nbnco have drawn a line on the maps.
If you are not on their map , you don't get it.. Simple as that.
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
Any assistance would be great.
The tower may be active, but nbnco have drawn a line on the maps.
If you are not on their map , you don't get it.. Simple as that.
That's sucks!! I am about 5kms away line of sight and would get great speeds, and with no ADSL here, I am screwed!
I am about 5kms away line of sight and would get great speeds, and with no ADSL here, I am screwed!
Satellite for you..
Awesome, I now have fixed wireless available........at my back fence! Fixed wireless tower for my town has just gone live but of course I can't get on it as I am in town and it is only servicing the surrounding region.
I'm trying to get an answer from NBN as to why I can't access fixed wireless in the interim. Is there more to it than getting an antenna installed for a couple of years, and then removing it once FTTN is available??
as to why I can't access fixed wireless in the interim
Don't waste your time. It won't happen. Many people have tried and failed. They will simply refuse.
Any map/RFS updates coming soon?
Thanks. :)
just a note jxeeno,
Not a criticism, just a point to be aware of, at
http://www.mynbn.info/map?ad
Zoom back out a few rolls of the mouse and look, South East of the Rockhampton CBD, there are five blocks of FW � over the Fitzroy River
I feel they are probably covering FW footprints one one side or the other (of the River)
Great work on the updates, thanks
ClaudeKrowe
Central Qld
Hey all,
Sorry, it's been a busy week for me. Getting to your questions now :)
Cheers,
jx
Has the same problem occurred to 7CYE-51-08-GEEV?
I checked myNBN last week & it said service would be available end of Feb.. checked again today & now its saying its available as of 2 days ago :/
Hmm, possibly. It looks like even though I made changes to do additional checks, it wasn't sufficient to keep out this case because a large number of premises got reallocated to an adjacent tower.
I will try and look for other solutions � thanks for letting me know.
Any map/RFS updates coming soon?
January is generally a bit flaky. Most of us are expecting an updated 3 year construction plan and monthly rollout plan to come out next week *fingers crossed*
Zoom back out a few rolls of the mouse and look, South East of the Rockhampton CBD, there are five blocks of FW � over the Fitzroy River
I feel they are probably covering FW footprints one one side or the other (of the River)
The maps are created by nbn, so this appears to be a case where edge premises are assigned to FW.
Not sure whether its worth editing, but you show 8NLN-01 as ready for service on the 16th December. NBN Co made a mistake declaring it ready for service and the earliest date for connections to commence is now 11/01/16
Thanks for letting me know!
I'm going to wait for an official update on this. It may be the case that while they've declared the area ready for service, they simply don't have capacity to connect people yet.
Since "ready for service" has many implications (e.g. it will determine when the copper disconnection date is), I'm keen to get the official word on what the status of 8NLN-01 :)
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
If you whim me your address, I can have a look at it for you :)
jxeeno, dumb question: what's the difference between the dark red versus light red areas of the zoomed out maps? eg. map search "vic, 3150", and zoom out once. There's areas that are darker red than others?
Also, on definition / glossary page, please add in 'high value build'
Thanks for a great site, I use it more often than the real nbn one :D
I'm not even on 3year plan.
maybe thankful for small mercies?
you might get FTTP before all of us who are about to be noded
jxeeno, dumb question: what's the difference between the dark red versus light red areas of the zoomed out maps? eg. map search "vic, 3150", and zoom out once. There's areas that are darker red than others?
I think you're referring to the orange colour? It's actually an artifact overlapping rasters of the 3 year shading... so denser areas appear darker. I've been planning to change the way the rasters are rendered for some time now... but never got around to it :(
Also, on definition / glossary page, please add in 'high value build'
done, thanks :)
you might get FTTP before all of us who are about to be noded
YES Dazed & Confused, I agree with this. People who have no choice but to wait (like us) may indeed get the better connection in the end ... as long as the DSL is a reasonable quality in the intervening time frame!
ClaudeKrowe
and monthly rollout plan
You mean this one:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
that hasn't been updated since October? I guess you have access to the private / inside information for your monthly rollout updates.
Have any additional high value FTTB releases been announced. Almost all the first phase seems to have been done.
I think you're referring to the orange colour? It's actually an artifact overlapping rasters of the 3 year shading... so denser areas appear darker
Yes I was, thanks for the explanation
You mean this one:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
that hasn't been updated since October? I guess you have access to the private / inside information for your monthly rollout updates.
I'm referring to the monthly map update when nbn adds new areas :) it is true that internally, nbn creates documents at that time of the month to coincide with the monthly map update.
You mean this one:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
that hasn't been updated since October?
The document itself has been updated several times since October but they don't seem to change the date on the webpage containing the link you gave so its hard to know that any update has taken place.
I see this months update is up on the NBN site, not that it really tells you anything that you didnt already know
Received my "NBN Service Update � Address Serviceable" email last night advising our area had just gone RFS for FTTH, allowing myself to get in nice and early to apply to my RSP.
Kudos to you jxeeno for your website and the update email service! Very much appreciated � I just hope you are able to profit from your efforts also.
Have the latest updates been input into mynbn? 4EDM-03 shows as build prep on mynbn, but search of NBN co shows it as in build.
I notice in build prep areas there are specific dates of "build started" some have specific dates ie jan 4 � jan 18 ... etc, some just have a month, are these these official build start dates and we can expect the map to go build on mynbn.info's next update?
cheers.
Have the latest updates been input into mynbn? 4EDM-03 shows as build prep on mynbn, but search of NBN co shows it as in build.
Updated information has just arrived... dates and data have been updated accordingly. If there is any information that looks wildly out of whack, please do let me know. :)
I notice in build prep areas there are specific dates of "build started" some have specific dates ie jan 4 � jan 18 ... etc, some just have a month, are these these official build start dates and we can expect the map to go build on mynbn.info's next update?
There are estimated build commence dates for areas that are currently in build preparation. As with the ready for service dates, these are estimates and are subject to change. You can expect the rollout map to reflect the "build commenced" status one month after an area is said to have commenced build.
As a side note, I will be updating the map sharings on Monday to reflect the latest map update.
Hi jxeeno, do you know if 2NWR-04 has gone RFS 2 months early or if it is simply a glitch or mistake?
When I check my address using: http://www.nbnco.com.au/conne
I get "Service available", "Great news! You can now switch to the nbn� network."
When I check my address using this instead: http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
The map shows 2NWR-04 with service available shading:
http://i.imgur.com/4ppb6HH.png
The expected RFS of 2NWR-04 on myNBN is currently 16 Mar 2016.
Updated information has just arrived... dates and data have been updated accordingly. If there is any information that looks wildly out of whack, please do let me know. :)
This could probably go in the Rollout thread, but a lot of my assumptions are based on the great info you've been providing Jxeeno...
It's been bugging me for a while now, where the "new" FTTN information is from NBN... Anything new seems to have been put on pause for about 6 months now.
Up until August last year there was a steady stream of FTTN SAMs being announced as starting Build Prep, then Build Commenced and so on. Since then there has been no new areas reported as starting Build Prep. Even the Prep additions for August 2015 in your post here are not showing up on either MyNBN or the current communities document. So the last areas into Prep are really July 2015.
Perhaps they'd greatly over committed the planned areas for the achievable rollout speed and had to reign in the horses. Maybe the impending HFC start up is/will be diverting resources this year. Maybe they're just not releasing the info anymore? The optimistic side of me is really hoping its because they've ditched FTTN and will shortly announce a move to FTTdp.
There's been information about Design ready areas, but nothing going past that point. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but I would have thought a project of this size had to keep moving forward to achieve their self-proclaimed "heroic" targets...
Hi jxeeno, do you know if 2NWR-04 has gone RFS 2 months early or if it is simply a glitch or mistake?
Hey Gariscus,
Doing a random sample of 10 premises in 2NWR-04, I cannot find a single location that's actually "serviceable". I suspect someone at the nbn mapping department pressed the wrong button :)
Sorry I don't have better news!
Cheers,
jx
It looks like nbn.com has been updated again.
Now it doesn't show the shaded areas at all on the rollout map.
Welcome to the new "transparent" (quote: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull) NBN.
First they removed FTTP areas, then they added the FTTN shaded areas, now they've even removed that.
Trying to obscure the NBN rollout even further.
I suspect someone at the nbn mapping department pressed the wrong button :)
I thought it would be something like that. Oh well, I've been waiting for years, I can easily wait another couple of months. Plus hopefully due to AVC trunking SkyMesh should be in my area around that time.
Now it doesn't show the shaded areas at all on the rollout map.
You can still see the shaded areas through this: http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
It looks like nbn.com has been updated again.
Now it doesn't show the shaded areas at all on the rollout map.
it has been like that for about 2 or 3 months
if you go in via this page http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
and then scroll down to
Check the nbn� network rollout map
there is a link that still shows colours on a search, for how long though, who knows
York WA has finished for fixed wireless howver im located in central york and wireless is denied to our address even though the transmitters at mt blackwell and balladong and the red line between them goes straight over our area. The entire are of York is covered except for the central area.Obviously the powers that be have decided that 20mbps adsl is good enough and we dont need the option .Even more annoying is nbn providers keep dropping off marketing in our mail box. I feel like ringing up southern phone and telling to check residential address before blanketing York with their mail drops.
So much for nbn.
York is set for FTTN at the end of year.
York is set for FTTN at the end of year.
Were did you get that info ? Will it cover the remaining central area ?
Old tech , should be FTTP but you know do it on the cheap.
Were did you get that info ? Will it cover the remaining central area ?
Yes: http://www.mynbn.info/map?add
The reason why nbn doesn't allow premises in the centre of York (and most other suburbs around Australia) to access the Fixed Wireless technology is because it is normally only designated for the outskirts of towns and suburbs.
The denser, central areas of suburbs will usually get a fixed-line technology like HFC � or in your case, either FTTP or FTTN.
This keeps the fixed wireless towers less congested and means that premises in the denser parts of suburbs can generally get faster speeds.
The denser, central areas of suburbs will usually get a fixed-line technology like HFC � or in your case, either FTTP or FTTN.
This keeps the fixed wireless towers less congested and means that premises in the denser parts of suburbs can generally get faster speeds.
Yep same thing for my area, fixed nbn wireless for the outskirt for my town and the within actual townsite is slated for FTTN rollout later this year
Fixed-Line FTTX Unknown ?????
Whats does that mean jxeeno ?
Fixed-Line FTTX Unknown ?????
Whats does that mean jxeeno ?
X = unknown. Generally meaning some form of Fibre to The X. This is now known as N which is FTTN.
Ok thanks for the info. I was just a little frustrated as the check my address on nbn says nothing and I hadn't come across this other map.
So been reading about FTTN and all the rantings how its old tech and still relying on copper to the premises. My opinion is if your still relying on copper to the premises then FTTN is a waste of time. Future proof is FTTP . But that's money.
Will it seriously boost my current adsl 20mbps speed ?
Can I get ssome clarification on this ?
"First RFS in next 3yrs*"
regards
"First RFS in next 3yrs*"
Taken from myNBNs data on York
First RFS in next 3yrs*
H2 2017
This means the first area Ready For Service (RFS) will be in the second half of 2017. With York being small it only has 1 SAM. This would mean York will finish construction and be RFS by the second half of 2017 providing theres not many delays. Then you will be able to connect to the NBN.
X = unknown. Generally meaning some form of Fibre to The X. This is now known as N which is FTTN.
Sorry i meant to say this below
Projected # Premises
(may only include 3 yr plan#)
Fixed-Line FTTX Unknown
Projected # SAMs
(may only include 3 yr plan#)
6MRG-XX
(FTTN)
Fixed-Line FTTX 1
Status Planned
Build ~ Q4 2016
RFS ~ H2 2017
Q3 for Build Preparation......June or July timeframe
hehehe will be interesting to see how bad the region�s ageing copper network is really ?
https://au.news.yahoo.com/th
"upgrades to Telstra�s transit network as the main challenges for the Margaret River rollout.
�The Margaret River exchange has always been problematic for us, � he said."
What did they mean by "upgrades to Telstra's transit network" not enough existing fibre optic that runs to the exchange or what ?
Hi jxeeno,
site 2BTH-51-06-GLAM went live mid January , the nbnco site is showing my address as being RFS and I have FW installation scheduled for tomorrow, but mynbn.info is still showing it as class 4.
edit: the map does show the area as RFS, just not the address
Searched the map in my area and the tower location is actually incorrect.
Does everything appear on track for 2COR-08 going live on Wednesday?
Hey Jxe, wondering if 6MDR-06 has gone live yet and if there has been any updates on 6MDR-07 Thanks!
Hey Jxe, wondering if 6MDR-06 has gone live yet and if there has been any updates on 6MDR-07 Thanks!
Hey, looks like we had some issues after loading new data onto the site. 6MDR-06 *should* have gone live yesterday, will fix accordingly :)
The latest expected RFS date for 6MDR-07 remains is 02 Mar 2016.
Hi Jex, I'm curious if you know what Buildings in 2-MAI-07 will be getting FTTB?
Noticed this morning that mynbn has been updated to show 2-MAI-07 (Metford) as Multi-Tech-Mix
I can't think of anything around here that would even take FTTB? Would you perhaps be able to shed any light on this?
Your not doing the Map updates list anymore? in the rollout thread?
Your not doing the Map updates list anymore? in the rollout thread?
hehe, give the poor fella a chance :)
what with Uni, work and trying to decipher the nbn� data.
I am guessing he needs a Turring machine to decode the enigma that nbn� has become
I am guessing he needs a Turring machine to decode the enigma that nbn� has become
A few acid trips might be more beneficial to try and work out what the hell nbnTM is disseminating :-p
There used to be a way on this site to see where the nodes are placed. Does anyone know if that feature is still around?
There used to be a way on this site to see where the nodes are placed. Does anyone know if that feature is still around?
that section also included the speed guides, but it is no longer accurate and so it has I believed been "pulled"
it also was not done for all areas
Hey jxeeno,
Just wondering how much data you have for 4ATH-01 and 4ATH-01 ? We are still in the prep stage but more so where pillars etc are so we can guess where nodes might go?
Cheers,
Leon
Am I correct in assuming that there is no way in which I can get more information than just H12016 construction start?
Pretty much. If nbn decide to realise their way overdue updated 3 year plan, you would of been given a more specific window.
Estimated NBN install dates.
Labour 2016.
Liberals 2018.
Today, I have some very exciting news to share. First, that myNBN.info is now part of the finder.com.au family. And with that, I also step into the role of Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au.
When I created myNBN almost three years ago now, my objective was to help Australians track the National Broadband Network rollout in their area by making a website that was accessible and easy to understand. Amazingly, over 800,000 Australians have done exactly that using the website.
That's why I'm very excited about this next phase for myNBN. As many of you may know, last year was a very busy year for me. Not only did I have a full load at university, I also had various websites to manage, freelance jobs to complete, and a part-time job at finder.com.au. Oh, and I possibly also have a personal life :)
By moving the site to finder.com.au, I hope to streamline my own workload, and also allow the site improve, expand and grow by leveraging the skills and expertise of the team at finder.com.au.
I will still continue to be intimately involved with the site as the Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au. We�ve already planned user experience improvements, while also maintaining the detailed information that myNBN is known for.
There are also plenty more exciting projects ahead in the roadmap to look forward to!
I would like to say a huge thank you to everyone who has supported me on this adventure thus far, especially those who have donated in the website's early days. It�s been a real pleasure working with everyone!
Kenneth Tsang (jxeeno)
Creator of myNBN, Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au
Well done Kenneth, we continue to admire your development and contributions to not only the ICT industry but the community as a whole.
Cheers
Wow! Big news jxeeno!
From a "consumer", as long as myNBN stays at least as awesome as it is now and you continue to make changes/improvements in the ever-changing world of "NBN", it will still remain the "go to site" for the NBN rollout � ahead of NBN's own website.
You need to look after number 1 (i.e. you) and it sounds like this deal goes a long way towards doing that.
Keep up the awesome work. :)
Thumbs up to Kenneth! :star:
Fantastic new jxeeno!! Wondered what had happened to the website this afternoon lol!
Well done Kenneth! Your service to the community is incredible.
Regarding the actual site, I note the move to Finder.com.au's UI has introduced some (perhaps intentional) usability issues?
The old (well not old, but 2.0) version of myNBN had a really nice universal search in the top right hand corner which let you search through SAs, SAMs and all sorts � very useful because I frequently had to search for greenfields developments for which I'd forgotten the AYCA- number.
It was also excellent to see the network hierarchy tab (very useful for nbn engineering works re greenfields) and the take-up rates � is there a chance these could be making a return? I understand that the general public probably isn't too interested in these...
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
It makes using your site virtually impossible.
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
Hi Midnight Rider,
The disclaimer shouldn't be overlayed. Which page are you experiencing the issue?
Cheers,
jx
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
not an issue for me with firefox � try different browser?
Hi Diggy The Wombat,
Thanks for the feedback.
The old (well not old, but 2.0) version of myNBN had a really nice universal search in the top right hand corner which let you search through SAs, SAMs and all sorts
Ah yes, good pick-up! I'll see what I can do about this. Thanks!
It was also excellent to see the network hierarchy tab
Yes, I'm not too sure where we are with that one. I got quite a bit of feedback about the hierarchy tab being fairly confusing... but let's see what we can do :)
the take-up rates
Take-up rate graphs haven't been updated since early 2014. They were a bit complex to maintain, and so, were phased out. You can still see current take-up using the ADA tab or the summary (by service class).
Cheers,
jx
I'm using IE 11 at work and the homepage looks like this:
http://i.imgur.com/CCR8oZC.png
I also can't scroll.
I'm using IE 11 at work and the homepage looks like this:
Ahh, sorry about that! Looking into it now :) Thanks for flagging!
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
It makes using your site virtually impossible.
Same problem here.
I'm using IE 11 at work and the homepage looks like this:
I opened IE just to have a look and got the same thing. Edge is okay though.
New site works fine for me in Both Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome (Haven't tried firefox through)
IE 8 has display issues but seeing as that's now discontinued, I don't know if it will be worth the fix or not and what are the chances that someone on IE8 will be on the site anyway?
Anyway quick test
Microsoft Edge � http://i.imgur.com/PuVmpoW.jpg
Internet EXP 8 � http://i.imgur.com/qU603Ya.jpg
Chrome � http://i.imgur.com/qrhGeO2.jpg ( I included the version of Chrome I'm using in the address bar)
I'm surprised about IE11 through but I guess sites aren't really designed for with Internet Explorer 11 in mind anymore. Edge is built differently to IE11 so that explains why it's working fine for me on Edge.
Wonder how the site is on FF.
Edit Added chrome test.
Firefox works fine (I don't have a screenshot, but it looks the same/similar to Chrome/Edge). I have seen the disclaimer issue in IE 11. It seems to be a page rendering thing. Edge can "spoof" itself as either Chrome or Safari, so it will render pages like they will, whereas IE 11 won't.
Nice site change too :) Looks a little cleaner.
OK, so looks like myNBN is no longer providing info about which RSPs are offering services at each POI, but instead are only pushing the paid-for providers.
Does anyone know where I can now go to get a listing of the RSPs who are offering services at each POI???
I would have done a screen capture if I'd known these changes were coming.
looks like myNBN is no longer providing info about which RSPs are offering services at each POI
I see a long list of providers when I go into the details screen. Is this not what you're looking for?
Hi Ken,
Was the SKY MUSTER� coverage map a late feature of the pre-finder version?
Take-up rate graphs haven't been updated since early 2014. They were a bit complex to maintain, and so, were phased out.
You can say that again. The switch to showing MPSes as additional ADAs really screwed that up I guess.
I really like the "Days In Build" display on the 'Recent Activations' page. Could be good to see on the overall list, although looking at the "Days In Build" stats for the FTTP regions would make anyone want to slit their wrists!
Speaking of FTTP, I guess that depressing 'History' tab from myNBN 1.0 which showed, month-by-month, how delayed the sodding things were has gone the way of the dodo? I guess it's not so relevant any more seeing as FTTN builds "seem" to "make" their RFS "targets".
Why the redirection ?
Regarding the color coded 3 year roll out map, why is the MTM details/suburbs hee different from that from NBN's MTM PDF ?
for example, NBN MTM pdf states for my area "Nollamara" among others, construction will start end of 2018, but of your website, its not even color coded., which indicates to me you do not have up to date details, regardless of if it may change or not.
Is this still suppose to help users regardless? Although the MTM can change... and while your site, which would be be more accurate way than a small footnote that NBN says that u can't see without a magnifier glass, its still shows different areas for this.
Of course if u read NBN's MTM u would know this already, looks like this site (your) site is more visual indication than any assuming it's always accurate even for MTM.
Hey all,
The IE11 issue has been identified and fixed.
Thanks!
Nice site change too :) Looks a little cleaner.
Glad you like it. There are more tweaks to come in the near future � stay tuned!
Does anyone know where I can now go to get a listing of the RSPs who are offering services at each POI???
Hi Midnight Rider,
The list of providers has not changed. You can still find them where they were previously.
e.g. http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
I guess it's not so relevant any more seeing as FTTN builds "seem" to "make" their RFS "targets".
That data can actually still be surfaced, but I had never implemented it on the myNBN 2.0 site � thus it's not showing now. Again, I'll see what I can do :)
The list of providers have not changed. You can still find them where they were previously.
Hey, thanks for that. This list didn't come up for me before when I looked, but I can see it now.
Before, I got a very small list with only 4 providers, but I can't find this smaller list any more.
I guess things are still in transition.
However I'm still getting the annoying overlay as per interfreak's image... http://i.imgur.com/CCR8oZC.png
(even though you say it's fixed � yes, I'm using IE11)
EDITED: After checking it out a bit more, it seem the overlay only happens when I click the NBN link on the finder.com.au page. The actual myNBN pages are rid of it.
Amazingly, over 800,000 Australians have done exactly that using the website.
Amazing! It was (an is) an excellent resource.
Are you going to re introduce the satellite image option? It was great for pinpointing a place whose address is "not recognised" by nbn.
However I'm still getting the annoying overlay as per interfreak's image...
your browser may be showing a locally cached version as it sees the page as the same as stored locally
Are you going to re introduce the satellite image option? It was great for pinpointing a place whose address is "not recognised" by nbn.
The satellite information has actually been improved because NBN begun working out which addresses are getting satellite.
You can see, for example 164 Tidbinbilla Rd, Paddys River ACT 2620, Australia will state that it's in the satellite footprint. About half of the 400k premises can currently be searched, with more to come before the expected commercial launch of Sky Muster in April.
jxeeno, I noticed on the recent activations page that it seems to be a few days out of date? on mynbn.info it was showing activations for 29/2 now it only shows up to 25/2.
The satellite information has actually been improved because NBN begun working out which addresses are getting satellite.
Yes, it has, but I was talking about the Google Maps satellite image feature, where you could pinpoint a house exactly, and know whether it was inside, near or well outside the footprint. This is especially useful in fixed wireless areas.
Không có nhận xét nào:
Đăng nhận xét