It is also blocked on my corporate network by the Clearswift Gateway due to 'malware'. We've got no stake in the project so this isn't a deliberately malicious block.
Running the site through a couple of on-line scanners doesn't detect any problems so I think this is an overblock by the the blacklist in the gateway, unfortunately I can't find any contact details that allow you to seek removal from the blacklist.
That wont change the actual rate though?
There arent going to be magic areas popping up out of nowhere.
NBNco have 987k in the pipeline for 12/2014.
Some of the areas that start between now and the end of the year should be completed by 12/2014 so it should increase as areas move out of the 1-year plan and into construction.
When I am looking at the stats I consider that the forecasts up to 12 months in the future are unlikely to significantly increase due to new starts (there have been a couple of outliers with predicted construction durations as low as 9 months but they are in the minority) but predictions beyond 12 months can potentially increase significantly.
As of the last 1-year plan NBN Co was expecting to start 332 FSAMs between now and the end of the year which would be ~700k additional premises that could be complete by 12/2014.
It is also blocked on my corporate network by the Clearswift Gateway due to 'malware'. We've got no stake in the project so this isn't a deliberately malicious block.
I've been trying to get it unblocked on several services used by corporate bodies too. I'm not sure why it's being blocked � it could be the providers I'm using (CloudFlare and Heroku), but they are all used internationally by many well known companies too.
That wont change the actual rate though?
There arent going to be magic areas popping up out of nowhere.
As Tallweirdo explained, there will be more FSAMs being marked as "Work Commenced" in the coming year. In theory, only numbers up to May 2014 are "fixed" assuming 12 month construction timeframe (RFS data has not been released this month yet) . In fact, any FSAMs completed beyond the May 2014 currently are delayed rollouts.
I will clarify the data with a more prominent note tonight.
Just updated with new rollout data from the NBN Co website. See whrl.pl/RdCo8H to see what has been added/activated.
Also, estimated stats have also been updated as a result.
- Brownfields Passed: ~97,918 (with approx 19,418 early access)
- Greenfields Passed: ~38,906
A quick question:
Your stats have a section for "service class zero". I presume this means premises not able to be serviced...but under what criteria determines this classification? vacant lots...perhaps?
Your stats have a section for "service class zero". I presume this means premises not able to be serviced...but under what criteria determines this classification? vacant lots...perhaps?
Service Class Zero does indicate undeliverable service. There are a number of reasons why service might not be deliverable such as (as you said) vacant lots. However, they may also include MDUs. They are simply extracted from a data file on NBN Co's website.
Hi Richard, if you're talking about my site � myNBN, I encourage to discuss issues over here: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2104304&p=7
Nonetheless, if you are discussing my website, the data appears fine. As you can see on your FSAM page (http://www.mynbn.info/fsam/4TOB-03) an "early access" tag is visible next to the status cell. This indicates a partial activation at your FSAM.
Sorry. Have had a bit much to drink and posted in the wrong thread....
I had only looked on the main page where I had cached "My rollout region". Didn't realise I needed to go to the main page to see anything different. Thanks though :)
Can I suggest it would be better if it said "Ready for service (Partial)" instead of simply "Ready for service"?
I had only looked on the main page where I had cached "My rollout region". Didn't realise I needed to go to the main page to see anything different. Thanks though :)
Can I suggest it would be better if it said "Ready for service (Partial)" instead of simply "Ready for service"?
Ah right, yes. I can see how that's misleading. I'll add some indicators on :)
They are simply extracted from a data file on NBN Co's website.
Hmmm...would be interesting if NBNCo could be more specific.
If, they do include MDUs, then once they start coming on stream there would potentially be a major boost in numbers RFS.
One single Service Class Zero might turn into 50 RFS.
Hmmm...would be interesting if NBNCo could be more specific.
In the file they are quite specific, they are tagged as SHOP, UNIT etc. Its not empty lots, empty greenfield lots are counted in the Service Class 1 category (when DevotedNBN used to have the rollout statistics up the number of greenfield premises passed in March was actually less than the December figures due to empty lots not being sent to RSP's).
One single Service Class Zero might turn into 50 RFS.
They count every unit in a MDU as a individual service class 0.
Thanks for the clarification Michael :)
Just made some changes to the site:
- Improved Brownfields rollout graphs � open...
- Now shows active premises as green, projected RFS in dark blue.
- Inside each column, orange is active, blue is early access and purple is projected RFS
- Early Access tag in My Region (thanks RichardM)
Would it be possible to have the option to sort columns in the FSAM list � really what I'm interested in seeing it sorted by RFS date (so you can easily see all the FSAMs in 'Testing and Activation' etc.)
Sorting is actually being developed right now. However, it requires a substantial coding change for parsing parameters.
And for a more specific class zero breakdown, I'll take a look at how and if I can parse that data.
Excellent work on the site. Its a pity NBN Co dont display their information re work commenced, premises passed and active services in a similar way to your stats page. I suspect the reason for this is that because we are still in the early stages of the volume rollout that its not until now that significant numbers are hitting the 'passed' stage.
A couple of things I noticed on the rollout stats page.
There is a grammatical error in the brownfields note ".. construction has begin." should be begun.
One minor issue however is that the rollout statistics page seems to use the word Active for premises "Passed". I would suggest that this will cause confusion given that NBN Co appear to use Active to indicated the number of premises where a service has been provisioned.
I also notice that the projected "Active/Passed" figure seems to plateau in July. Is this because the data set you are importing (I assume this is the RFS file) is difficult to extract expected completion dates from, or that you have not got to this point yet?
One suggestion I would make is to differentiate the colours for projected and historical premises passed data. This method could also be used to indicate falling short of or exceeding projected targets (currently the former but hopefully the later as the build progresses).
Thanks ozziemandias.
There is a grammatical error in the brownfields note ".. construction has begin." should be begun.
Ah, thanks :) It'll be pushed with the next update.
One minor issue however is that the rollout statistics page seems to use the word Active for premises "Passed".
For the hover-tips, I will now use:
- # of # premises already passed
- # of # premises expected this month
and for the labels, I will use "Expected to pass" and "Already passed". These, again, will be pushed with the next update.
I also notice that the projected "Active/Passed" figure seems to plateau in July. Is this because the data set you are importing (I assume this is the RFS file) is difficult to extract expected completion dates from, or that you have not got to this point yet?
The active/passed (i.e. the green bottom section) is supposed to display the current premises passed figure so you can see how many more premises NBN Co expects to pass by any month (simply by hovering over the dark-blue portion on a particular month). The graph does not show any FSAMs where construction has not yet begun (i.e. not appeared in the RFS reports).
One suggestion I would make is to differentiate the colours for projected and historical premises passed data.
Sorry, I don't have that data available and it would be almost impossible to display. Most FSAMs RFS months changing between reports, so the dilemma becomes which date to compare with. This is just too hard to implement right now � however, I'm happy to revisit the idea when and if I have time.
Sorry, I don't have that data available and it would be almost impossible to display.
No need to apologise, just a suggestion � not a criticism. I would say that the dates to compare would be the first estimated completion (when an FSAM makes the RFS list) against the latest date as each RFS update.
Once again � Congrats on your effort. Have you considered contacting the larger RSPs and offering them integration into your site? Where services are available they could be linked from a service provider list.
Thanks :)
Have you considered contacting the larger RSPs and offering them integration into your site?
From what I understand, the data that RSPs have access to (e.g. the historical footprint list) can not be released publicly. DevotedNBN released it before and was asked to remove it by NBN Co for some disclosure agreement they signed.
I wasn't suggesting that you incorporate their data, rather that they pay you to advertise their presence in the relevant FSAMs as they become active, or even as they approach this stage.
I think your site stands a good chance of getting very wide exposure, and due to the fact you are displaying progress information people will be following your site before they really start to consider who will be offering services as their area becomes active.
I wasn't suggesting that you incorporate their data, rather that they pay you to advertise their presence in the relevant FSAMs as they become active, or even as they approach this stage.
Ah right! Yes, I have considered this � I actually tried signing up to BSA to get a solid publishing platform to run ads but was rejected. Once I get more time, I'll consider building something like that.
Late night update!
Changelog
- FSAM list is now sortable
- Sort by FSAM, Premises and RFS date
- Filter Brownfields/Greenfields/All
- Filter State
- Graph terms clarification as suggested by ozziemandias
Although I prefer to poke through RFS reports myself, the site is certainly rather handy as for those less inclined to do so it more or less fills the void left by NBN Co apparently having abandoned plans to offer something similar (I realise these things take time, but it's been more than a year and later questions regarding the project were ignored). Good work. :)
Thanks :)
Just pushed an update to the site.
- A redesigned home page
- Predictive search (thanks to Google)
- Full address search returning (if any) the containing FSAM
- This only works for fibre rollouts and not wireless.
- Wireless maps are too complex and can not be calculated client-side using Javascript
- All non-matching addresses go to old search
Just pushed an update to the site.
- A redesigned home page
Nom, nom, nom :) Nice.
- Predictive search (thanks to Google)
This worked a treat!
- Full address search returning (if any) the containing FSAM
So did this. Spot on. Perhaps the address you parse to the NBNCo roll-out map checker that appears when you click on the "Interactive" (versus the default "Static" link, it could parse all the address data the user entered. When I clicked on it, it parsed the suburb & higher, as opposed to knowing my street name & number also (gathered from the prior Predictive search (thanks to Google).
Something I'd been meaning to say, perhaps edit your original post in this thread with your new website address, rather than leaving the old one there & letting it redirect, etc. Just a thought, no biggie :) /forum-replies.cfm?t=2104304#r1
Thanks for the feedback, h0mer :)
it could parse all the address data the user entered. When I clicked on it, it parsed the suburb & higher
Are you referring to the following senario?
- Address is not matched with a fibre region
- redirected to the old /search/... address
- e.g. when searching 12 Jafferays Road, Wallacedale, Victoria, Australia (just a random address), it gets redirected to http://www.mynbn.info/search/Wallacedale%20VIC%203303 rather than a link with the full address
If so, I did this because my database does not have any address searching capabilities. Having 12 Jafferays Road, Wallacedale, Victoria, Australia as the entire search term will add extra noise to the search (e.g. if a development is called "Jafferays", it would be displayed in the results.
If I'm missing the point completely, do you mind elaborating a bit more?
Something I'd been meaning to say, perhaps edit your original post
Hmm... I don't see an option to do this... :( do I have to talk to a mod? EDIT: nevermind, found it :)
Stats and data has just been updated. A couple of new FSAMs and WSAMs to be added when RFS data comes out.
Estimating 113,728 brownfields premises passed as of today.
Estimating 113,728 brownfields premises passed as of today.
JXeeno may I ask what method you are using to estimate the number of premises covered by the early access sites?
JXeeno may I ask what method you are using to estimate the number of premises covered by the early access sites?
I manually calculate them. I basically take the latest RFS report with Early Access data and match it with the FSAMs that do have Early Access and add up the approx number of premises. There are (in cases) where I've included premises where early access has not been enabled. I have not taken them into account.
It might an outlier but your RSP search seems to be broken in at least some areas
http://www.mynbn.info/fsam/4APL-03
is returning a completely different list from the NBN website.
One suggestion for the next step in your NBN data aggregation master plan would be RSP plans.
This spreadsheet from lifehacker would probably be a good place to start, its a bit old (notably the exetel plans dont exist anymore). Alternatively there are probably Reps who would be happy to do the data entry for you. or you could just crawl the Broadband Choice page
The "area active" notifications from RSP's seem to suck at the moment, for a simple example your website is more accurate than Internode and all the Nextgen re sellers service qualifications, so there are a few ways to leverage that (email notifications would be one way).
Anyways new design looks good, although i prefer plain bootstrap myself :P
It might an outlier but your RSP search seems to be broken in at least some areas
http://www.mynbn.info/fsam/4APL-03
is returning a completely different list from the NBN website
You're right. Nightly integration is neglecting the CSA update which determines the RSP list. This has been updated now :)
One suggestion for the next step in your NBN data aggregation master plan would be RSP plans.
Haha, how did you guess? :P Personally, I love the idea � but I think this would be a tedious task and would be hard to automate (which is what I want). Unless I can get data collated that I simply upload onto the database � I think I might give this one a miss for now.
email notifications would be one way
These are planned � I'm currently weighing up the options for sending out the notifications. I'm considering using Google Apps Script (which is what I use for monitoring the CSV) to send out notifications � but they limit executions to 15 mins :/
Anyways new design looks good, although i prefer plain bootstrap myself :P
Haha... I thought the home page needed a facelift � it kinda felt like a turn-off point for me (although, compared with some RSPs websites... :P)
Just added � RSP list. Check how many CVCs each RSP has access to: http://www.mynbn.info/rsp/list
Telstra still in the lead with 114, followed by Westnet and Internode 107...
Just added � RSP list.
The June POI list shows 38 Active POIs, so there are 38 CSAs accessible to RSPs at the moment. I do not understand the meaning of e.g. the 114 Telstra CSAs. There may be something amiss in the number of CSAs associated with an RSP if indeed this number is meant to represent CSAs really accessible to an RSP at the moment.
The June POI list shows 38 Active POIs, so there are 38 CSAs accessible to RSPs at the moment. I do not understand the meaning of e.g. the 114 Telstra CSAs. There may be something amiss in the number of CSAs associated with an RSP if indeed this number is meant to represent CSAs really accessible to an RSP at the moment.
There are many many more csa's than poi's. Interim poi's in capital cities have heaps of csa's for greenfield areas.
There are some obvious data errors though ie skymesh listed 3 times
Thanks Michael for the clarification.
There are some obvious data errors though ie skymesh listed 3 times
I just checked the data from NBN co through their json file � and indeed, Skymesh appears three times (once as wireless and two other times as regular). However, I'm not too sure why this is so.
I just checked the data from NBN co through their json file � and indeed, Skymesh appears three times (once as wireless and two other times as regular). However, I'm not too sure why this is so.
Fantastic work JXeeno, love it already !, Keep up the good work ! :)
Telstra still in the lead with 114, followed by Westnet and Internode 107...
Interesting. Westnet and Internode are both subsidiaries of iiNet. I wonder why they're listed separately?
Interesting. Westnet and Internode are both subsidiaries of iiNet. I wonder why they're listed separately?
Perhaps this will give a little more insight: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2114138#r13
Hi, just punched my address in and i am in 4KLG-07 Kallangur.
It says Remediation, what does that mean?
Also if the libs get in can they stop construction in this area under there policy (hope not)
thanks
It says Remediation, what does that mean?
You can check out the FAQ
a process conducted by Telstra (or their contractors) to clear out or fix broken ducts in preperation for the NBN Co. fibre rollout.
In terms of the Libs coming in, the contracts are signed � unless the libs want to simply destroy the NBN, they should honour the contracts.
Hi, just punched my address in and i am in 4KLG-07 Kallangur.
It says Remediation, what does that mean?
Also if the libs get in can they stop construction in this area under there policy (hope not)
thanks
Nope. Remediation is Telstra fixing up pit and pipe for the delivery partner. It's been designed, work has started. I don't think the Coalition could stop it.
Good work, JXeeno. I don't know how you're finding the time and energy to keep the info at www.mynbn.info up to date.
One minor thing I've noticed: the "Tower Details (RFNSA)" links need to be altered to remove "www.mynbn.info/".
For example, at http://www.mynbn.info/wsam/2ARM-51-02-KLR, link goes to:
... which breaks.
I'm considering using Google Apps Script (which is what I use for monitoring the CSV) to send out notifications � but they limit executions to 15 mins :/
My 2c would be Amazon SES or maybe Sendgrid. Sendgrid is probably more appropriate as the free tier is easier to access (although not as generous as the Amazon one).
That said email isnt the only option, a twitter dm or a facebook notification could achieve the same thing and cost nothing.
One minor thing I've noticed: the "Tower Details (RFNSA)" links need to be altered to remove "www.mynbn.info/".
Fixed. Thanks for reporting :)
I can was also told that my statistics on my website are approx 15k under the real rollout figure which was what I was expecting :)
Hi great job your doing but I got a few errors
Try this for instance: http://www.mynbn.info/search/Majors%20Creek%20QLD%204816
This in NBN site will give you the wireless footprint: Majors Creek, QLD, 4816, Australia
And for "Search my Town" try AYR ( It's in North Queensland but you get an error asking for 3 characters or more
Wireless is deployed in both those areas
And for "Search my Town" try AYR ( It's in North Queensland but you get an error asking for 3 characters or more
Sorry about that, AY... is a special region code for Greenfields and was excluded from Google Autocomplete. I've improved the matching expression to only match AYA... and AYC...
I went ahead and integrated most of the June RFS data (except early access). I'm also in the process of adjusting my premises count figures due to it being ~15k under actual figures.
So dedicated. Amazing work as normal JXeeno! :-)
Thanks again.
Nope. Remediation is Telstra fixing up pit and pipe for the delivery partner. It's been designed, work has started. I don't think the Coalition could stop it
They can if it hasn't physically and actually started. I suspect there are many sites listed as "Remediation" with nothing happening on the ground. As such there is no reason why contracts for work which hasn't started can't be varied (from FTTH to FTTN say). Only in cases where there has been sufficient work (i.e. actual construction) carried out can we be sure it will be allowed to go all the way to FTTH.
In essence anything due to be ready for service 12 months from now could be doomed. I live in area with an RFS for Apr 2014 but I haven't seen any work, and if it doesn't start in the next 3 months I don't think it will happen (especially since we have HFC and that means no FTTN either probably).
So dedicated. Amazing work as normal JXeeno! :-)
Thanks again.
+1 here. You are doing a great job.
I went ahead and integrated most of the June RFS data (except early access). I'm also in the process of adjusting my premises count figures due to it being ~15k under actual figures.
How are you doing that? Is it because the number of premises in each FSAM is rounded or something?
How are you doing that? Is it because the number of premises in each FSAM is rounded or something?
The initial number of premises reported/predicted per-FSAM was inaccurate especially in some of the early rollout regions. After checking with some sources, I was able to determine a more accurate number for some of them. However, I'm still off my target by 13k... I'll look into why this is so later tonight.
Are you having a go at him because he is from Qld? :-P
Haha, not at all! :P
Using Google Chrome, and I have tried ... believe me, I have tried ...
But there is NO button or obviously click whereby I can register my location...
(10 inch atom � Windows 7 � Chrome ... umm what else?
)
Chief Procrastinator writes...
But there is NO button or obviously click whereby I can register my location...
By register, do you mean to add as your region (as promoted on the front page)?
If so, you can do so by clicking on the blue "Set My Region" button on the right hand side of the FSAM/Greenfields/WSAM page. e.g. http://www.mynbn.info/fsam/4AAR-02
See screenshot: http://puu.sh/3isr1.png
I want to "set my region/address" ... trust me ... I want too....
But I don't see how I can .... and believe me, I've clicked on all sorts of buttons/links and entered my address many times!
Shite me ....I even hovered my mouse over the SAID bar that said I should click on the register my address ...
If I need to use Microsoft Explorer than just say so :-)
(a quick switch between browsers is easy)
Chief Procrastinator writes...
If I need to use Microsoft Explorer than just say so :-)
(a quick switch between browsers is easy)
The website was designed for and with Google Chrome � the browser should not be an issue.
But I don't see how I can .... and believe me, I've clicked on all sorts of buttons/links and entered my address many times!
As much as I want to help you, you should at least give a couple of indications of what you pressed... or what page you pressed it at. Can you please be more specific and give me a link?
- Where did you enter the address? In the home page?
- Once you made the search, which of the following happened?
We are at 116k today :-)
We are at 116k today :-)
Yes, I made some corrective figures last night... No mass data change � just updated premises figures for each FSAM
Yes, I made some corrective figures last night... No mass data change � just updated premises figures for each FSAM
So you were able to get to a fairly correct figure just using the public data?
So you were able to get to a fairly correct figure just using the public data?
Yes, based on the mass RFS report release via FOI and confirmation via RSP.
Also in regards to being unable to add your region to FSAM, Hillsman59 sent me a Whim. Just realised that one-year rollout plans can not be added to My Region. I hope to fix this soon.
I see what you mean. 1-year rollout FSAs that have not appeared on the monthly RFS plan can not be added onto the My Region Tracker.
For now, you can only track FSAMs, WSAMs and Greenfields. I'll look into adding FSA/WSA tracking next version.
nicely done JXeeno, very impressive work and appreciated by all!
Thanks all :) I'm working on FSA and WSA "My Fibre Region" tracking now and expect it to finish within the week.
I also ran a script last night to upload ~900,000 Proposed Footprint locations onto the database. I'll use those records to generate a more accurate premises count for future FSAMs.
June RFS is out now :)
Hello Megalfar, the site was already updated with the June RFS reports on Tuesday.
Hello Megalfar, the site was already updated with the June RFS reports on Tuesday.
Nice work!
Fixed and added some Greenfields rollout data from older RFS reports. Also rounded off the premises count figures for Brownfields.
As of last update (Tuesday RFS report) here are my estimated statistics:
- Brownfields Passed (total): ~116,600
- Brownfields under EA: ~35,800
- Brownfields Class Zero (counted towards premises passed): ~33,370
- Greenfields Passed (total): ~40,719
FSAs in one-year rollout plans are now trackable. A note will appear under the My Region tracker to locate a FSAM once they are added onto the database.
FSAs in one-year rollout plans are now trackable. A note will appear under the My Region tracker to locate a FSAM once they are added onto the database.
Loving your work mate.
you know what would be nice to see,
A list of the last say 10? areas that have become RFS.
You know a way we can see stuff lighting up?
you know what would be nice to see,
A list of the last say 10? areas that have become RFS.
You know a way we can see stuff lighting up?
I'm more inclined to do a mini-blog and make posts about this since my database doesn't have records on when RFS status changes.
And thanks guys, or gals :)
Brownfields Passed (total): ~116,600
Brownfields under EA: ~35,800
Brownfields Class Zero (counted towards premises passed): ~33,370
Greenfields Passed (total): ~40,719
When you say that service class zero are 'counted towards premises passed', do you mean that they are included in the 116,600, or they can be counted as passed in addition to that figure?
I'm more inclined to do a mini-blog and make posts about this since my database doesn't have records on when RFS status changes.
Great idea!
When you say that service class zero are 'counted towards premises passed', do you mean that they are included in the 116,600, or they can be counted as passed in addition to that figure?
Included in the 116,600. I believe NBN Co. regards all premises passed (regardless of service class) as being passed.
Added note to 7HOB-02 page and revised stats in light of this thread: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2114420
Back down to 114k, from 116k.
I hope I'm not embarrassing JXeeno, but it has been disclosed in another thread that he is 16 years old.
If you are doing this sort of quality work at this age, I'm predicting you'll take over the internet by your early twenties. Keep up the good work.
I hope I'm not embarrassing JXeeno, but it has been disclosed in another thread that he is 16 years old.
Yikes, future internet entrepreneur in the making!
I hope I'm not embarrassing JXeeno, but it has been disclosed in another thread that he is 16 years old.
Thanks Punter, I sometimes worry about disclosing my age (due to certain levels of discrimination in other communities I've contributed to) � so it's nice to know the Whirlpool crowd is supportive to say the least!
Re: Notifications
In the works at the moment is a Facebook notification system to allow tracking of regions and addresses. Facebook is currently the cheapest and most viable way to send notifications. I looked into sendgrid's free tier, and a single update will exceed it in one shot. Since this feature relies heavily on the proposed footprint list (which is about 400MB in total to upload to my database) � a lot more background work needs to be done to get this feature going.
Thanks Punter, I sometimes worry about disclosing my age (due to certain levels of discrimination in other communities I've contributed to) � so it's nice to know the Whirlpool crowd is supportive to say the least!
Keep up the amazing work! You will go far in life good sir!
Thanks Punter, I sometimes worry about disclosing my age (due to certain levels of discrimination in other communities I've contributed to) � so it's nice to know the Whirlpool crowd is supportive to say the least!
Physical Age is a number only...I know quite a few people who are going grey who still act like kids at times. For some reason, they think their age is the reason they should be in leadership roles, even though there are younger people with the smarts and attitude to do a significantly better job. Hope you manage to find people who'll ignore your age and see what you can contribute instead. From what I've seen here, you've got a good future ahead of you. And you're the sort of person this network is going to help advance. Just don't forget us all when you create the next social media/IT sensation! :-)
In the works at the moment is a Facebook notification system to allow tracking of regions and addresses. Facebook is currently the cheapest and most viable way to send notifications. I looked into sendgrid's free tier, and a single update will exceed it in one shot. Since this feature relies heavily on the proposed footprint list (which is about 400MB in total to upload to my database) � a lot more background work needs to be done to get this feature going.
Do you have a twitter account setup for the site? If not, might be a good idea as someone like myself uses twitter a lot more than Facebook (and the software i use at least lets me separate out profiles into separate groups...I'd forever be missing updates if they were only on Facebook).
Thanks dJOS and Stringly.
Do you have a twitter account setup for the site?
Just got it setup! @myNBNinfo. Looks like myNBN was already taken by the government :/
The problem with Twitter is there is no notification API (except the DM system which is quite limiting). Facebook allows me to send notifications directly to the user � bypassing all messaging avenues. Email is still going to be there as an alternative method of sending notifications � just not using sendgrid.
In the works at the moment is a Facebook notification system to allow tracking of regions and addresses
Probably the best way to go. Twitter DM's work also but kindof suck.
Just got it setup! @myNBNinfo. Looks like myNBN was already taken by the government :/
Followed! Should be good to see how quickly your following grows.
The problem with Twitter is there is no notification API (except the DM system which is quite limiting). Facebook allows me to send notifications directly to the user � bypassing all messaging avenues. Email is still going to be there as an alternative method of sending notifications � just not using sendgrid.
Is there any way of leveraging off posting on one media to post on both? I know a lot of twitter clients will let you simultaneously post on Facebook...is this possible via the API for either?
Alternatively, maybe have twitter for generic rather than region specific posts only.
I know a lot of twitter clients will let you simultaneously post on Facebook...is this possible via the API for either?
Im fairly sure jx is talking about individual notifications, ie you get a facebook notification when your area goes into construction, when its ready for service etc. The problem is that twitter doesnt have a notifications system as such.
Im fairly sure jx is talking about individual notifications, ie you get a facebook notification when your area goes into construction, when its ready for service etc. The problem is that twitter doesnt have a notifications system as such.
Ahhh, thanks for clarifying. Didn't realise that was the reason for the Facebook notification.
The Twitter account should help to promote the site though, and as I said, good for general notifications, ie site updates, etc.
Im fairly sure jx is talking about individual notifications
Yes, those types of notifications � as detailed in the Facebook Developer's API.
What about an app that utilises the iOS notifications?
I would say no for now simply because I won't have time to develop or manage it. Email is the safest bet for now.
Thanks Punter, I sometimes worry about disclosing my age (due to certain levels of discrimination in other communities I've contributed to) � so it's nice to know the Whirlpool crowd is supportive to say the least!
Great work, keep it up. Intelligence and applications thereof aren't dependent on age. We have ample evidence that you don't get brighter as you age. The reasons for this and other NBN fora are living proof. ;-)
Hi JXeeno,
Just have a request for an update/modification to the status line on specific FSAM pages.
I am in 3KEY-03 FSAM which is shown as Design Acceptance (about 20% give or take).However without going to the FAQ page, it's not clear what the progression of stages is at a glance.
Is it possible to get something on the FSAM page to show remaining steps (ie a list of remaining statuses to come) or even a link to that part of the FAQ?
It just wasn't intuitive to me (likely less so to most of my family who wouldn't necessarily twig to where the progress stages might be shown).
I also think this might help people to get a feel for what's required in the rollout, rather than just thinking that they should be able to connect as soon as they've seen the fibre rolled out.
Other than that, nice work! :-)
Is it possible to get something on the FSAM page to show remaining steps (ie a list of remaining statuses to come) or even a link to that part of the FAQ?
That's a great idea! I'll have a fiddle to see how I might be able to implement that. :)
Sorry, one more query.
I noticed when I search my address that you have a popup saying that construction has started.
When I search for my work address though, it comes back with the FSA, which is due to start this year, but it's not clear unless you click on the link that it is due to start soon.
Basically, is there specific address info for construction commenced sites that isn't available for those sites in the 1 year rollout?
Just that if the site/area is due to start soon, might be good to make that a bit more obvious than it currently is. Might help to get those who are in the 1 or 3 year rollouts something to start getting excited about :-)
That's a great idea! I'll have a fiddle to see how I might be able to implement that. :)
Ta. I've pointed a few friends to your site, but most aren't overly technically literate...making it easier for them to understand and navigate can help them to promote your site to others.
Basically, is there specific address info for construction commenced sites that isn't available for those sites in the 1 year rollout?
Unfortunately, there isn't hard data available. The search mechanism I've implemented on the front page uses mapping data given my NBN Co's interactive map (so it's not entirely accurate anyway). However, the more regions I give the browser to search through � the more likely it's going to crash. That's why Wireless is not supported in the search, as my browser just ran out of memory after every search. Same goes with one and three year plans.
Just that if the site/area is due to start soon, might be good to make that a bit more obvious than it currently is.
Once I have time, I'm going to re-write the NBN Co interactive map so it loads quicker, has less clutter and loads and links directly to within the website. This should give 1 and 3y rollout people a better idea of things.
Thanks for clarifying. Just thought I'd ask.
I also think this might help people to get a feel for what's required in the rollout, rather than just thinking that they should be able to connect as soon as they've seen the fibre rolled out.
This is a pretty decent infographic for the actual construction phase
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
Our area still doesn't show up (Mt Gravatt, which I think is 1MGAT or something?), but someone I know who works for NBN Co showed me their figures which show the construction start date being in 2017... so I'm guessing their publicly released information is significantly more sparse than their own data, or less likely (but more optimistically) it's because start dates might get shuffled forwards... it could happen, right you guys? Guys? I could get NBN yet, couldn't I? *sobs uncontrollably*
Also I posted this on reddit a little while back and it got a bit of attention. You should post an update now that it's a lot more polished.
Also I posted this on reddit a little while back and it got a bit of attention. You should post an update now that it's a lot more polished.
Is it actually on the NBNCo website?
http://www.nbnco.com.au/when-do-i-get-it/index.html
Otherwise you probably shown data that's not available to public.
Small point. On the FSAM list page, if I click VIC to select by that state, nothing happens. Other states are OK. Seems to be a quote missing at end of VIC in your function call.
if I click VIC to select by that state, nothing happens
Fixed. Thanks for reporting :)
JXeeno, is there any possibility of using the data from all the completed brown field sites to give an average time of completion (in comparison to NBNco "12 months")?
I didn't mean to take this off topic.. Mabe get mods to remove these distracting posts. :)
It's not off-topic since this is a feedback thread :) If you want, can you please edit and shorten this post: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2104304&p=21#r418
JXeeno, is there any possibility of using the data from all the completed brown field sites to give an average time of completion (in comparison to NBNco "12 months")?
Can give it a shot.
Small feature request, Perhaps look at adding a % to the takeup figures, just in the detail when hovering over a data point maybe?
Hi, just wanting to know if someone could shed some light?
on the myNBN tracker FSM 6BNB-09 The Tuarts (Stage Crystal) which is where i am about to build, its a small stage or 13 blocks of land which matches the # of premises.
I have been following for awhile now and they hadn't been much updates until today when i looked and it had expected completion Nov 2013.
What does this mean and is this information correct?
Does it mean that in roughly November i will be able to connect to the NBN, every other house in the Tuarts Development are already on Telstra Velocity, though they didnt include it in Stage Crystal because the NBN was being rolled out.
Some further information would be great.
Thanks.
So now that the JSON file has been removed. Does that mean there will only be monthly updates or none at all?
What does this mean and is this information correct?
Greenfields are unaffected by recent remediation problems and is generally accepted to continue rolling out no matter which government takes over. The date shown on the myNBN website is provided by NBN Co in their monthly Ready For Service plans. November is when they expect to connect you to the NBN, however, as with all plans... they are subject to a disclaimer:
The Rollout Plans are provided for information purposes and are intended to be a guide only. The contents of the Rollout Plans should not be relied upon as representing NBN Co�s final position on their subject matter, except where stated otherwise. Any views expressed by NBN Co in the Rollout Plans may change as a consequence of NBN Co finalising formal technical specifications, or legislative and regulatory developments. Any dates provided are indicative only. Any such dates are subject to change and are dependent upon a number of factors. The Rollout Plans may be withdrawn without notice.
So now that the JSON file has been removed. Does that mean there will only be monthly updates or none at all?
The JSON file will not affect the overall functionality of the site. myNBN will continue to provide weekly activation updates as well as monthly projection updates (for ready for service dates). The only thing affected by this change on the website will be the Service Class Zero figure previously shown on the Stats page.
The JSON file will not affect the overall functionality of the site.
Just makes it impossible for anyone to see how many properties fall into the SC0 category. Maybe it because that it reveals that some of the 'premises passed' folk won't in fact be able to connect for months or years to come, and fits in with the rumours re a downgrade in the roll out numbers as reported in the Murdoch media.
One does wonder why the NBNCo who are supposedly transparent, want to remove this info from the public arena as there is no real reason for doing so, apart from suppressing information and the real facts.
Keep up the great work with your website.
JXeeno, is there any possibility of using the data from all the completed brown field sites to give an average time of completion (in comparison to NBNco "12 months")?
Just makes it impossible for anyone to see how many properties fall into the SC0 category.
Not exactly 'anyone', but for the general public it sure does.
I think the issue is they have seen that we see their 350 SC0's disappear and 1500 are added. It points to a lack of bodies on the ground, and also a generally slow work process. Only have to look at the Gungahlin threads to see people being given 'civil works required' and put at the back of the line.
Hi I am trying to search my address in beaconsfield tasmania and when I enter address your site says "found .... " but when I goto map / status it displays file not found on database ... BEL-01
11 new FSAM records have been added and estimated on myNBN. Until NBN Co releases details for these FSAMs publicly, these are only estimations by myNBN.
It points to a lack of bodies on the ground, and also a generally slow work process
I don't particularly care about the numbers, but I think NBNCo could do themselves a favour and be more specific about the "civil works" required.
eg: Civil works required: Blocked Telstra lead in Conduit
Civil works required: Telstra pit remediation
etc etc.
It's like most things. If people have the information they are less likely to be pissed off.
It's like most things. If people have the information they are less likely to be pissed off.
It's something NBN Co is working on for their B2B protocol for communicating with Access Seekers. When the end user orders a service and if they're unable to get service due to issues such as civil works, starting 4Q-2013, they will be able to get additional information:
CE014: Additional information may be provided for unserviceable
Premises (Service Class 0 or 4). Additional information may
relate to: frustrated Premises (i.e. where consent was not
given to install necessary Premises infrastructure), Premises
is currently located outside a designed network footprint.
Source: http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
It's not off-topic since this is a feedback thread :) If you want, can you please edit and shorten this post:
I would if I could but it seems the Edit function isn't available for some reason :(
Small feature request, Perhaps look at adding a % to the takeup figures, just in the detail when hovering over a data point maybe?
Sorry, that's not currently possible as the two data sets are discrete, and not interlinked at present.
I would if I could but it seems the Edit function isn't available for some reason :(
Whimed you, hope it helps.
Would you be able to let me know which pages you feel are being locked up? Want to make the site load up as fast as possible, before loading the maps on demand.
Just the map page now, it locks up the ipad and then crashes back to home screen.
Just the map page now, it locks up the ipad and then crashes back to home screen.
Hmmm... Seems like some mobile devices aren't capable of handling the map. Have a couple of devices at home to test with and my iPad 2 seems to load fine after a cautious wait...
Will try and investigate if I can make the map less resource intensive.
I've had the same problem ... will crash whenever it tries to load the map. I'm on ios7 though so that could be my problem.
iPad 4, iOS7 crashs just as map is about loaded
iPad 4, iOS7 crashs just as map is about loaded
Not surprised, you're running an unstable OS, assuming you're using safari as well?
Thanks.
I'm looking to obtain a list of areas covered by the DDDs � not certain I can get it though.
That would be great.
4NDG-03 has changed status to Testing and Activation.
How long after that till it goes live I wonder?
4NDG-03 has changed status to Testing and Activation.
The "Testing and Activation" status is simply a projection of the ready for service date provided by NBN Co on a monthly basis. When there is less than one month until the ready for service date, myNBN will display a "Testing and Activation" status as outlined in the FAQ on the site.
Ahh I see. So we don't actually know if they are actually at the testing and activation phase yet? I have seen quite a few cabinets around the area already, so must be close.
So we don't actually know if they are actually at the testing and activation phase yet? I have seen quite a few cabinets around the area already, so must be close.
No, we don't actually know � progress bars are only indicative based on work completion timelines outlined by NBN Co. However, the cabinets are a really good sign :)
However, the cabinets are a really good sign :)
As are the vans I've seen around the area doing the splicing.
@JXeeno � as you don't have a stats section for the Wireless progress, is there any chance of just putting a record counter at the bottom of the List of WSAMs page.
I am in a potential future NBN Wireless area, and having a record counter so I can see that there is 56 records when I filter by NSW, or 6 records when I filter by WA etc would be helpful for us 4% to track progress of the wireless rollout.
Cheers.
G'day Muz...
The reason behind not giving stats for fixed wireless was due to the reliability of the data. There are certain fixed wireless areas that were marked as "Work Commenced" and have since been removed from the plans all together.
From what I understand, as of last week, there were ~40,200 premises covered by Fixed Wireless.
However, I will look to build an overview (perhaps number of WSAMs) active.
The reason behind not giving stats for fixed wireless
Thats fine, I am not asking for a stats page for the wireless.
I am less interested in premises covered by wireless, and more interested in the number of towers active or under construction per state, so I can compare that to the number of towers expected to be required/licensed on ACMA etc and see the progress (or not) being made on the wireless rollout on a national and state basis. So a simple record counter on the List of WSAMs page would suffice for my needs.
Cheers :-)
Its sad to see the mynbn website now covered in unnecessary anti-Coalition propaganda.
Its sad to see the mynbn website now covered in unnecessary anti-Coalition propaganda.
I beg to differ. I believe there is nothing purely "anti-Coalition" on the website. I'm presenting a message of my support for a policy reconsideration and have outlined the reasons behind it on the front page. I have the right to lobby for what I think is a better option for the entire country.
The Coalition are already in power, so there is no point in being (as you say) anti-Coalition. However, I am against the Coalition's plans for the NBN. And since my website presents information regarding these plans, I feel that there is nothing wrong with informing my visitors.
e.g. under their new proposed policy, the Government has drastically changed the validity of the information on the website and as a result � I believe I need to inform my visitors that the information presented may no longer be valid, rather than mislead them.
No, we don't actually know � progress bars are only indicative based on work completion timelines outlined by NBN Co. However, the cabinets are a really good sign :)
So is the information updated on a daily basis?
So is the information updated on a daily basis?
- The projected status (e.g. Testing and Activation) is updated live.
- The activation status, i.e. if an area is live or not, is updated weekly.
- The estimated ready for service dates are updated monthly where NBN Co releases the Monthly Ready for Service reports � normally on the 10th working day of each month.
I believe there is nothing purely "anti-Coalition" on the website.
Your website is now smothered in it, as i'll demonstrate below.
I'm presenting a message of my support for a policy reconsideration and have outlined the reasons behind it on the front page.
Fair enough, but you could been apolitical about it but instead you choose to go the childish and political way.
EG: The roll out map is now smothered in bizarre pictures of Tony Abbots and Malcom Turnballs heads pulling weird faces where YOU "think" their fibre to the node is going to be rolled out. You obviously chose these specific pictures because they are pulling weird faces and you are trying to make them out to look like idiots/morons/retards.
People come to your website to use it as a tool, why would i or anyone else want to use a roll out map that's covered in this nonsense which makes it harder for us to see where the rollout is actually happening etc?
EG: Your use of a Labor Party political jibe of "Fruadband" and "National Fruadband Network" again, completely unnecessary and again completely smothered across the rollout map.
It's just disappointing...........
Is it possible to list the company doing to actual work rolling out the cable/etc per region?
JXeeno has put in hours, hours and hours of work on his site. Not to mention answering all related questions here on WP. It is his site and he is perfectly entitled to put whatever he wants on it. All the information presented is available from NBN Co's website so nobody is forced to use mynbn.info.
On another matter I think it will be interesting to see if any of the FTTN fans are so passionate about copper technology that they create a website to track the node roll out (if it ever eventuates)
I believe I need to inform my visitors that the information presented may no longer be valid, rather than mislead them.
And those pin's are the best way to do it?
As you said its up to you and it is pretty funny.
But 'Mr turnbull can you release more information about the NBN rollout so I can more accurately position the pictures of your head photoshopped to make you look like the devil?' maybe isn't the most convincing argument.
It would be nice if mynbn remained a data based site, there are plenty of advocacy sites out there (and many could do with a Jx spring clean in terms of design and layout).
t would be nice if mynbn remained a data based site,
Basically my point. I don't want to look at a map spammed with childish unnecessary things that don't help me track the NBN rollout whatsoever.
Looks like ill just have to go back to the official nbn website :(
Basically my point. I don't want to look at a map spammed with childish unnecessary things that don't help me track the NBN rollout whatsoever
This!
Looks like ill just have to go back to the official nbn website :(
Zzzz. I miss the speed at which things used to progress in here. :(
Zzzz. I miss the speed at which things used to progress in here. :(
Ahh well. Welcome to Malcolm Turnbulls NBN.
Zzzz. I miss the speed at which things used to progress in here. :(
And the amount of information available before it was made "open and transparent"
Zzzz. I miss the speed at which things used to progress in here. :(
Feature-wise, many small changes have been pushed overnight which were queued for deployment:
- FSAMs where "premises are in the process of being passed" and where early access has not been approved by the ACCC, these areas are now marked as "early access" with a new exception clause:
NBN Co appears to be nearing completion of this FSAM (or part of this FSAM). Parts of this FSAM are expected to be switched on in the course of the coming weeks.
e.g. http://www.mynbn.info/fsam/8CSU-02 - the exact premises passed is now also displayed next to the approximate premises count
- Build Commenced dates have been added to the FSAM history
- WSAM link to RFNSA has been removed (no longer worked) and replaced with a short paragraph on how to perform a search.
Information-wise:
- Rollout statistics page is still being worked on and is expected to feature the new information released weekly by NBN Co
- Weekly analysis of these statistics (as well as graphs) will be posted on the main rollout thread: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2175967&p=29#r569
- Pin generation code has now been optimised, now able to complete processing in less than 20 minutes.
Oh no not having a stab at you at all jxeeno. Just trying to bump the thread whilst having a winge about the current government.
Hi, just wondering what's going on with this region: 5SFD-04-p233
It's appeared on the map 'ready for service' as a subset of 5SFD-04. Yet it didn't exist on any previous maps (NBNCo or myNBN). Is this an 'early access' region? It's also not listed in the 'FSLAM Early Access' list:
It's appeared on the map 'ready for service' as a subset of 5SFD-04. Yet it didn't exist on any previous maps (NBNCo or myNBN). Is this an 'early access' region? It's also not listed in the 'FSLAM Early Access' list:
The early access data is updated separately from the main integration information. That should be updated later today. In terms of the actual listed status, I'm in the process of rewriting the code for that � NBN Co made some changes last week.
how do we get detail on individual FDA ID's ?
would be ideal if nbn published some of that network layout information about which 182 premises are connected to each FDA
how do we get detail on individual FDA ID's ?
If you want, whim me the details and I can look it up. I was planning on providing a search tool before my VPS provide went broke so I lost the scripts and database :/ It's being reworked though.
The early access data is updated separately from the main integration information. That should be updated later today. In terms of the actual listed status, I'm in the process of rewriting the code for that � NBN Co made some changes last week.
Cheers for the explanation jxeeno. Love your work.
Cheers for the explanation jxeeno. Love your work.
No worries, just an update that the information has been updated.
Also, I'm beginning a transition to a new data page layout � starting with the FSAM page. It's now in tabs instead of everything being displayed in a linear fashion on the page. Any feedback is appreciated :)
Updated myNBN with the new fibre RFS dates from this month.
myNBN Milestone 3 has just been pushed to production. A couple of feature requests have been implemented as well as general backend optimisations:
- Maps
- Map now includes removed areas for historical and comparison purposes only shaded as pink, blue and green (WC, 1Y, 3Y respectively)
- Search old Construction Commenced areas using address search functionality
- Mobile improvements for map (fullscreen)
- Design
- New styling for page titles
- New Features
- Lists latest activations in homepage and dedicated activations page
- Updated statistics based on Weekly Rollout Statistics, graphed
- Early Access Eligibility (as approved by ACCC)
- FDA Information � activated, number of premises, % serviceable and connected
- Corrections
- Minor FAQ corrections
I suspect there'll be some bugs and issues which will need to be addressed as they are discovered. Please let me know if you find any issues!
Cheers,
jxeeno
myNBN Milestone 3 has just been pushed to production.
thank you for all the hard work you have put into this, much appreciated.
Pity the news isn't prettier
Well done!
Awesome, great work
Map now includes removed areas for historical and comparison purposes only shaded as pink, blue and green (WC, 1Y, 3Y respectively)
Thanks jxeeno. Excellent work as always.
This will come in handy in keeping our local member to the Libs promises from before the election to complete areas that were in progress. They cant hide from it anymore, by reducing the amount of information available. Its right back in front of them now :)
Awesome update, but makes me sad as my area is shaded green :(
Map now includes removed areas for historical and comparison purposes only shaded as pink, blue and green
Thanks for all the hard work. This is great historic detail for people to reflect on.
Thanks for your good work jxeeno, I know now I am 460 m from the Toora wireless NBN tower, it's finished now, supposed to come online in Febuary. :)
It appears there was an issue with integration where the status for Build Contract Instructions for the 6VIC-04 FSAM was mistakenly marked as "Build Commenced" when no actual instructions were issued.
I suspected this was the case. When I first noticed the problem 6VIC-01 was missing as well. Thought it might have been a sign 6VIC-04 had started. It was the next area due to start. *fingers crossed* the rollout continues in my direction
Thought it might have been a sign 6VIC-04 had started. It was the next area due to start. *fingers crossed* the rollout continues in my direction
A technical question open for comment
I recall someone commenting on the Victoria Park (WA) thread that 6VIC08 appears to have priority and the inference that western side of the railway might be the only 6VIC to get fibre in the new time frame.
Is it possible that because 6VIC 04 has a lot of new high rise apartment developments (WA govt driven redevelopment) that won't be completed for a couple of years may be the reason for that? My understanding is that the fibre loop physically went through 6VIC 04, 06, then 05 (subject close to my hopes) and that was the order the planned completions were to take place. Is there a technical reason which would not allow 04 to be 'skipped' in part at least? I believe 6VIC 05 (and 04) has been rodded and roped and pits and pipe cleaned out so basically ready to go except for some pit replacements I suspect.
If 6VIC 08 has priority there is the suspicion that with quite a bit of work sighted in Cannington near Cannington Exchange/Carousel Shopping Centre and the highway back towards Vic Park, 6VIC 04, 05, 06 will miss out all together. It would seem stupid to haul new copper � a must in 05 as it disintegrates when techs are on site � where areas are ready to haul fibre.
Some news! I've been able to track down the files which rendered the old 1 year/3 year rollout "fuzzy boundaries" and I've updated myNBN to show it. All 1/3y boundaries are now as per pre-election.
I've been able to track down the files which rendered the old 1 year/3 year rollout "fuzzy boundaries" and I've updated myNBN to show it.
You're awesome!
All 1/3y boundaries are now as per pre-election.
Darn. My area was to commence in Q3 2014 but isn't even on the map now. :(
Some news! I've been able to track down the files which rendered the old 1 year/3 year rollout "fuzzy boundaries" and I've updated myNBN to show it. All 1/3y boundaries are now as per pre-election.
Great effort, and just for WA it's surprising just how many of even the original 1 year areas have been quietly removed.
Does having a FSA already built in my area (within 2-3kms max) give me good odds of getting fibre. My suburbs colour had changed and FSAM plans removed, although some green fields are being built in a very small patch of buildings.
Some news! I've been able to track down the files which rendered the old 1 year/3 year rollout "fuzzy boundaries" and I've updated myNBN to show it. All 1/3y boundaries are now as per pre-election.
Thanks very much for the effort here jxeeno and gr8t to see you submission getting a bit of air in the Senate with respect to the data being provided on the rollout!
Hi jxeeno,
Is it possible to create a full screen map view option?
e.g.
Some news! I've been able to track down the files which rendered the old 1 year/3 year rollout "fuzzy boundaries" and I've updated myNBN to show it. All 1/3y boundaries are now as per pre-election.
Top job! You never cease to amaze me!
Well done jxeeno, your doing a fantastic job. Unfortunately better than NBNco at the moment.
Well done jxeeno, your doing a fantastic job. Unfortunately better than NBNco at the moment.
Certainly more info available than from the "open and transparent" NBN Co ;)
Is it possible to create a full screen map view option?
Hey Wahroonga Farm,
You may use the mobile version for full screen version of the map. http://www.mynbn.info/mobilemap
Cheers,
jxeeno
And thanks y'all :) there appears to be some issues with the data. Some areas that were previously shaded as 1/3y are not appearing (the pins are there, just not the shading). Will be working with my sources to consolidate a more accurate version.
There will also be information regarding the copper switch off coming very soon.
You may use the mobile version for full screen version of the map. http://www.mynbn.info/mobilemap
Thanks. * * * * *
http://www.mynbn.info/mobilemap
So the ready date (3BRU-08), is that when they switch it on? Or will some streets be available before this date?
So the ready date (3BRU-08), is that when they switch it on? Or will some streets be available before this date?
squinly,
The "ready date" is NBN Co's "Expected Ready for Service" date for that Fibre Serving Area Module (3BRU-08). This is a best estimate by NBN Co accurate at the end of January as to when they expect to complete the rollout in your area.
At present, this date is Jan 2015.
NBN Co notes that greater than 3 months from present have greater uncertainty and may be drastically revised later or earlier. Check back around mid-month every month for an updated expected rollout date.
Cheers,
jxeeno
Does anyone know if NBNCo will be showing ETA on build commencing in areas any time soon?
Does anyone know if NBNCo will be showing ETA on build commencing in areas any time soon?
NBN Co does not currently provide ETAs for build commencement publicly, but has internal records of such targets. Even if such information was made available, based on current practises, it would be limited to retail service providers only who have signed confidentiality agreements.
Great effort, and just for WA it's surprising just how many of even the original 1 year areas have been quietly removed.
Just keep that in mind when you re-vote for the senate soon.
FSAMs that had Build Instructions issued in Feb won't necessarily be 'announced' by NBNCo until the mid-March update (still a few days away at least). They usually run about a month in arrears in that reporting.
any bets on a "big number" announcement, on the Wednesday before the Tassie elections, and again on the Wednesday before the new WA Senate elections.
"massage" the message
Last updated July 2013 but work done over the last 4 weeks. Data still not entered after such a period of time is very bad.
Please check to see if this last updated string has been changed now...
Just as a note, no status or data would have been changed irrespective of the last updated date because NBN Co does not change the Service Class until at least 90% of the premises are passed with fibre and the FSAM is declared Ready for Service. Until such time, everyone is on Service Class 0.
The last updated date refers to the last time the data was loaded on the database... not the date when the data was changed. Another phrase that can be used is "accurate as at" rather than "last updated".
As of now:
Last Updated
28 Feb 2014
I understand (to a degree lol) what people were saying its just the way my brain works. I consider all new works should be "updated" and cant see any reason why the latest data wouldn't be available.
But then I realise this is a government release and its wishful thinking to expect that from ANY govt (lets not start that again).
Cheers to everyone for their feedback and of course jx for the time/effort he/she puts into the website and keeping us informed.
I consider all new works should be "updated" and cant see any reason why the latest data wouldn't be available.
Under standard reporting, that granularity of status is not available for areas that have not been switched on yet. Once an area is switched on, however, service classes can be used to determine if a PCD is installed, or if an NTD is installed.
What would also be good is a " get connection tracker",
What would also be good is a " get connection tracker",
Any chance you could expand on that a little bit on the tracking? Do you mean a progressive tracking on how connection takeup?
Not sure if you can track it, But in Geraldton WA there are not many installers, people having to wait months to get connected.Or would it be keep calling your RSP.
I'll see what I can do...
Take-up progress per week by FSAM graphs now available for Brownfield FSAMs and Fixed Wireless Area Modules that are currently active. You can find this under the Stats tab of each FSAM/WSAM and by clicking the button.
.... Do you mean a progressive tracking on how connection takeup?
Perhaps a form where users submit the following data:
Install Request date.
NBN scheduled install date.
Address (Street and suburb only).
NBN Actual connection date (when known).
Then that data can be plotted on a google map. Or generate a "approximate wait time" for a connection.
Along the same lines as user sourced data: for the expanded HFC NBn. As Telstra, Transact etc don't publish maps � why don't we crowd source our own.
Users answer question;
Do you have Telstra / Optus / Transact � HFC at your address? Yes/No ?
Your Street/Suburb?
If you do have HFC, what's your speed.?
- This can again be plotted and overlayed with NBN Fibre maps.
I'll be creating some user-contributed information gathering soon now that the server architecture has changed to a replica-set database model. They'll be more news in the coming weeks.
NBN Fixed Wireless tower locations are now visible on the map with the light-green tower icon. You can click the tower to view more information.
NBN Fixed Wireless tower locations are now visible
Stunning.
http://s4.postimg.org/70vwrnr2l/Loira_7.jpg
Thanks as usual.
NBN Fixed Wireless tower locations are now visible on the map with the light-green tower icon. You can click the tower to view more information.
Great addition, thanks :)
NBN Fixed Wireless tower locations are now visible on the map with the light-green tower icon. You can click the tower to view more information.
Great! And it shows microwave link sites too! Thanks for all the work you put into this jxeeno :)
Cheers guys :) do let me know if anything can think of improvements to displaying tower data and also user-contributed data.
User-contributed pins and activity notes are in the works. Been doing some small data trials in Wulagi, NT with data from jarryd's map. Feel free to check that out if you wish, and leave some suggestions: http://www.mynbn.info/map#show:8CSU-03
The idea is to have pre-determined types e.g. FDH locations, fibre hauling, FTTN node installation... which can be verified by photographs if available.
http://www.mynbn.info/map#show:8CSU-03
The idea is to have pre-determined types e.g. FDH locations, fibre hauling, FTTN node installation... which can be verified by photographs if available.
very cool, that could be huge amounts of work but i do like it.
H jxeeno,
A small but annoying thing.
Is it possible to add the google map scale reference ie 1km = 1cm sort of thing.
http://s4.postimg.org/fkfapezf1/screenshot_288.png
Is this simply a missing map layer or is it a lot more complicated, since it does not exist on the NBN roll-out maps?
I'll admit when I saw the post on Facebook I was immediately horrified too!
Cut me some slack. I'm allowed to express my frustration about the lack of information publicly available.
+ eleventy :)
The lack of info from this "open and transparent" government is appalling.
I can now announce that the ACCC in a priority judgement have announced that the takeover of MyNBN by NBNco would 'substantially lessen competition in the NBN Rollout information environment' and therefore will be blocking the sale.
Oh well JX... back to the HSC for you ;)
Your sarcasm radar was accurate.
Oops. Sorry... I didn't think anyone here would be silly enough to actually support the Coalition plans.
And that WASN'T sarcasm!
I'm allowed to express my frustration about the lack of information publicly available.
I think your site is a testament to the lack of information available. You've been able to incorporate a lot of stuff that the rest of us would have difficulty finding � plus the stuff that the Coalition has hidden since taking office.
I think Malcolm Turnbull probably has a photo of you on the dartboard in his office!
I think the biggest problem with jxeeno is that he's only 17 and already achieved far more in terms of public service and guiding public opinion than most of us could hope to do in our whole careers!
Good going kid, way to show us up. :)
oh yea, a petition, that'll show 'em.....
*sigh* what a waste of time that will be.
NBN is a waste of time & money so im not sure why I even care anymore?
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NBN is a waste of time & money so im not sure why I even care anymore?
lol, you're the only one that can answer that......
Complaints may be made and updates on the progress of complaints obtained by contacting
our Complaints Team on the following
� the NBN Co website online form at �Contact Us�
www.nbnco.com.au/online_channel/contact_us
� by email to complaints@nbnco.com.au
� by phone to 1800 687 626
� by mail Complaint GPO Box 468 Brisbane QLD 4001
� by fax to Complaint Team 1800 106 033.
NBN Co will seek to acknowledge written complaints within 2 working days
Maybe start a petition and we can all sign it.
*sigh* what a waste of time that will be.
StraitVodka, I actually share the view that Quentin has put forward here � that is, a petition would be ineffective. We know from past experiences that petitions, regardless of signature volume, are ineffective in lobbying the Government. I actually started a petition a while back... but I never promoted it because I knew it was an impossible task that would achieve very little.
Directly contacting the Minister and NBN Co also doesn't seem to work at all... however, I am awaiting a reply from my local member. data.gov.au is an "official" channel which is supposed to promote an "open government". But I know the speed at which things are done, especially by the Communications department.
But I welcome any suggestions as to how I should proceed from here (if at all). I should also add that in-constructive personal criticisms are not welcome.
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But I welcome any suggestions as to how I should proceed from here
jxeeno, Turnbull is on Q&A tonight, maybe there's an opportunity to put up a hard-hitting question about transparency
jxeeno, Turnbull is on Q&A tonight, maybe there's an opportunity to put up a hard-hitting question about transparency
Already did :)
That should make interesting viewing.
ExcessivelyLongForumName writes...
That should make interesting viewing.
only if the question gets asked :(
which going on previous visits by Malcolm I doubt it will :(
ExcessivelyLongForumName writes...
That should make interesting viewing.
I expect not, the usual response is now well known...."there is no point publishing inaccurate data which misleads people"... this is the idea that the data relates only to plans and predictions, and that so far, the plans and predictions have all been entirely wrong.....closely followed by some kind of political comment
There is of course a natural problem in saying all plans are inaccurate in that NBNco actually need to have some plans to work from, and that there should be some level of confidence in the short term plans and predictions, even if the longer term ones are largely useless.
Of course that should not prevent publication of detailed factual information as it is known.
only if the question gets asked :(
which going on previous visits by Malcolm I doubt it will :(
At which point my Plasma screen is in mortal danger!
At which point my Plasma screen is in mortal danger!
think you might want to invest in a couple of lexan screens as used on mythbusters. just to protect the plasma
I pushed an update earlier this morning that was already completed before I announced the semi-archival mode.
- searching addresses on the map will now return NBN lookup data
P.S. I got an email... some data has been updated
Sweet, lets hope you get more email.
Hi all,
Just a quick update on how things are going with myNBN.
As some people would know, this issue of transparency was raised several times at Senate Estimates and Select Senate Committees on the NBN. I've also put, on the record, my concern about the lack of transparency in my testimony to the Senate committee.
After emailing CEO Bill Morrow, explaining my situation, I received an email late last week from NBN Co. I won't disclose the full contents of the email but it basically explains the removal of datasets as being an issue of accuracy, citing "overly optimistic" and "misleading impressions" of the rollout.
The email did go on to say that "there will be more information coming soon". With that last sentence in mind, I will consider this as potentially "light at the end of the tunnel".
Moving forward, I have a new and redesigned version of myNBN in the works. It's going to be rebuilt from the ground up with the MTM rollout in mind. I posted an early preview screenshot of the site on Twitter.
There is no ETA for this new version launches though, given my current time constraints. Real development work won't start for another 2-3 months once school concludes for me.
Again � thanks for everyone's ongoing support, and keep the data flowing in :)
Cheers,
jxeeno
Jxeeno � you are doing awesome work � not only in coding but also being actively involved in communication.
Keep up the good work. :)
Thanks jxeeno, not just for your awesome work, but also your cool diplomatic approach to the myriad political issues.
A perfect storm! :star:
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