Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 9, 2016

myNBN - rollout tracker part 9

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:23 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    SJW writes...

    Yes that's what I get after I have put in my full address. I've also noticed that the building it thinks we are in, according to the map, doesn't actually exist ... there is no building there it's actually a little park in between all the buildings and our building is not numbered, but I think that's got something to do with the map itself.

    Ah yes, we're using Google Maps to help geocode and standardise the address. Assuming this is a new-ish building, their maps and addresses may take a short while to update.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:23 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Idaf Eioutenz writes...

    Does this mean someone has opted for FOD?

    While it does mean that there is more than one technology in this ADA, in this case, it's because a new development in the ADA got an FTTP connection :)

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:25 am
    SJW

    jxeeno writes...

    Ah yes, we're using Google Maps to help geocode and standardise the address. Assuming this is a new-ish building, their maps and addresses may take a short while to update.

    Yeah it is a newish building ... about 2 years old. The other buildings are even newer next to us that have gone active though so I think it comes down to the body corporate holding off as long as possible.

    We do have VDSL so it's not as if we don't have good internet, it's just we can only get it through one provider and they are more expensive than a lot of the others.

    Anyway the wait continues.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:25 am
    clicknetoz

    Looking at MyNBN for Dalwood NSW 2335 it shows rollout areas for Fixed Wireless and the location of the towers.

    When you check OzTowers for the tower details they don't have NBN listed there.

    ACMA has the following:
    NBN Co Site 363 Elderslie Road BRANXTON
    This NBN Fixed Wireless tower is located on ACMA Site 9023315
    Name NBN Co Site 363 Elderslie Road
    Location BRANXTON NSW 2335
    Precision Within 10 meters
    Latitude (GDA94) -32.620862
    Longitude (GDA94) 151.358397
    -32.620862, 151.358397
    Emission Center Frequency 13.059 GHz Bandwidth 28 MHz
    Emission Designator 28M0D7W
    Antenna Parabolic-P, UKY 220 27/DC15, ERICSSON
    Antenna Height (AGL) 37 m

    There is no 2300 frequency range listed

    This is what MyNBN says about that tower:
    Primary Rollout Status (2SIN-51-03-ELDE)
    Status Build Commenced
    Expected Ready For Service 01 Dec 2016 (accurate as at 31 Mar 2016)
    Build Commenced Mar 2016

    So, MyNBN seems to have more up to date information. Where are you getting it from?

  • 2016-Apr-29, 6:57 am
    Jason:M
    this post was edited

    clicknetoz writes...

    So, MyNBN seems to have more up to date information. Where are you getting it from?

    ACMA tower information is available here:
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/register_search.main_page

    Here is the specific tower:
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=9023315

    Cross-reference that to the NBNco coverage information and you can see, without any assignments, that it is the only tower possible to use based on the overlay of the Wireless bounds for 2SIN-51-03-ELDE

    This tower is already used by NBN for backhaul to other towers, so it would make sense to enable it for local reach too.

    I assume jxeeno has run some queries with assumptions to determine this result for the website.

    Edit: That said this site is also close by and has different CPE frequency sets.
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=2000783

    Here is the NBNco 3.5Ghz Assignment, Issued today.
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/licence_search.licence_lookup?pSOURCE=HELM&pLICENCE_NO=9997701/1

    Jason

  • 2016-Apr-29, 6:57 am
    NetskyAU

    Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 1:55 pm
    clicknetoz
  • 2016-Apr-29, 1:55 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    NetskyAU writes...

    Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.

    Thanks, fixed :)

  • NetskyAU

    Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.

  • zulu

    NetskyAU writes...

    Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.

    assume finder.com.au you refer to but have been unable to see coloured maps on nbnco site a few times today.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 5:59 pm
    Greg

    NetskyAU writes...

    Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.

    For some reason i couldnt see coloured maps earlier this afternoon momentarily, however a refresh made it reappear.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 5:59 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    It looks like NBN's maps are down as well... so we'll have to wait until they come back live :(

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html

  • 2016-Apr-30, 12:55 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    jxeeno writes...

    It looks like NBN's maps are down as well... so we'll have to wait until they come back live :(

    more transperancy?
    or just a glitch?

  • 2016-Apr-30, 12:55 pm
    JamieA

    Hey jxeeno, any update on Dubbo? Both 2DBB-02 and 2DBB-03 were supposed to go RFS today but looks like it's not going to happen.

  • 2016-Apr-30, 7:31 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    JamieA writes...

    any update on Dubbo? Both 2DBB-02 and 2DBB-03 were supposed to go RFS today

    02 just went live :) caching issue is causing problems which means site still says it's in build.

    I'll clear it once i get home :)

  • 2016-Apr-30, 7:31 pm
    JamieA

    jxeeno writes...

    02 just went live :) caching issue is causing problems which means site still says it's in build.

    I'll clear it once i get home :)

    Legend.

  • 2016-May-4, 1:12 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    more transperancy

    Literally, yes. The map tiles were more transparent than normal because there was no data ;)

    I suspect it was a glitch though.

  • 2016-May-4, 1:12 pm
    Joelly

    jxeeno writes...

    02 just went live :)

    03 too right?

  • 2016-May-4, 1:17 pm
    ADSL2+

    Finder/MyNBN got a plug in the Daily Liberal.

    http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/3886317/get-connected-confusion-the-rule-as-nbn-lights-up-dubbo/ (down towards the bottom.)

  • 2016-May-4, 1:17 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Joelly writes...

    03 too right?

    Indeed, shortly after :)

  • 2016-May-6, 7:05 am
    interfreak

    When does your area go RFS? That's your answer.

  • 2016-May-6, 7:05 am
    Cashie

    NetskyAU writes...

    Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.

    jxeeno writes...

    Thanks, fixed :)

    Was 6PNJ-51-06-NODT one of these sites?
    It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.

  • 2016-May-6, 3:38 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    Is this finder article ... legit?

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-is-cutting-fees-to-install-satellite-broadband-ahead-of-launch

    No date.

    No nbn reference.

    And why October end?

  • 2016-May-6, 3:38 pm
    Cashie

    Cashie writes...

    Was 6PNJ-51-06-NODT one of these sites?
    It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.

    I'm assuming myNBN has got this wrong as it's still not officially RFS. :-(

  • Wahroonga Farm

    Hi guys,

    BFF (BeFore Finder) there where several interactive maps of FTTN trial areas, which gave an estimate of speed and distance to the node.

    Are these still available?

    The old link is broken. http://fttn.mynbn.info/?esa=GRKN

  • Dazed and Confused.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Hi guys,

    BFF (BeFore Finder) there where several interactive maps of FTTN trial areas, which gave an estimate of speed and distance to the node.

    Are these still available?

    they were taken down as the results were not matching what was being seen in the wild.
    Also from memory they did not have vectoring included in the calcs

    Mr Mac was working on more accurate data/maps.
    He lives in the Kellyville roll out region and seems to be concentrating on his own "back yard"
    He has posted some images of that area in the Kellyville thread /forum-replies.cfm?t=2429691

  • 2016-May-10, 12:49 pm
    Spacko

    I am looking for some clarification on a local tower � the NBN dude that was here seems to think progress will occur in the next couple of months, but I am thinking not.

    The tower is 4NGO-51-07-GING, according to http://www.rfnsa2.com.au/CCPage/ViewPage/3609?sid=S28Up5Go0u8dLc54AaCl47946FdQu8H87CgdYj4GAApUCS5S6U&siteID=4671004&mode=view, but the name for that tower, Gin Gin Central, comes up under 4BBE. Or rather it doesn't. Gin Gin is listed as an indicative coverage area but it appears to not be in the current three year plan as a *site*. As a coverage area, but not a site. NBNco's website just says they're coming to the area but doesn't say when.

    So, when will we know when it will be started on?

    Also, the above link has documents relating to Aurecon's consultative process and the construction plan for the tower as consulted with the community. This plan show a parabolic dish pointing at 227 degrees, but ACMA shows no dish registered on that azimuth. See http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=16851&pSORT_BY=&pOFFSET=50. Rather, there is a parabolic dish pointing 71 degrees.

    The dish ACMA knows about points "the wrong way" for the site name to be in 4NGO, and places it in 4BBE (as per finder). The dish ACMA doesn't know about points to "Horsecamp" (which interests me greatly as I live near there). The Aurecon plans don't show a dish pointing where ACMA thinks it is.

    So, who wins? ACMA, Aurecon, both, neither (Gin Gin gets nothing as NBN runs out of money before anything actually gets built)?

  • 2016-May-10, 12:49 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    they were taken down as the results were not matching what was being seen in the wild.

    Thanks. :)

  • 2016-May-11, 8:35 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Is this finder article ... legit?

    Indeed it is! The date is on the right side, under my name :)

    NBN source: http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/sfaa-ancillary-charges-waiver-discount-notice_20160426.pdf

  • 2016-May-11, 8:35 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Are these still available?

    The old link is broken.

    What Dazed said. They were removed shortly after the product release of FTTN because I haven't had the time to upgrade and improve the code behind the maps.

    I, too, await Mr Mac's maps :) He did most of the pillar-spotting work on my old maps too.

  • 2016-May-11, 8:42 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Cashie writes...

    It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.

    Yeah, sorry :( It's the conflicting satellite footprint data that's causing issues.

    I'll go through and audit the data next week once I have fewer assignments on my belt.

  • 2016-May-11, 8:42 am
    MrMac

    jxeeno writes...

    I, too, await Mr Mac's maps :) He did most of the pillar-spotting work on my old maps too.

    Still working on them in my spare time. Large amount work done, but currently hung up on getting a sustainable & self-updating routing DB based on OSM. Vital work to ensure reasonable level of accuracy without too much manual work (asides from updating global OSM)

  • 2016-May-11, 10:08 am
    Wahroonga Farm

    jxeeno writes...

    Indeed it is!

    Thanks. ;)

    MrMac writes...

    Still working on them

    ... and thanks again.

    Mr Mac,

    What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?

  • 2016-May-11, 10:08 am
    hawtdawg

    G'day
    Most of the nodes in 2MAI-09 have had their DA labels placed on them, I've noticed other suburbs that haven't been computed yet have DA's listed on mynbn, is there any chance this list will be updated soon so I can see which node i'm on? (could be one of two)

  • 2016-May-11, 12:19 pm
    outback

    Hi jxeeno, could you check status for 4MLS, Maudsland Qld. The RFS shows 20-May-2016 but no-one has heard from NBN yet.
    Also one area (Tuxedo Junction Estate) has been installed with FTTP but your finder tool is still reporting FTTN � http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Ave,%20Maudsland,%20QLD,%204210,%20Australia

    see /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502706#r4

  • 2016-May-11, 12:19 pm
    outback

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?

    If you want distance PM rendrag

    /archive/2508787#r49856113

  • 2016-May-11, 11:24 pm
    mopo

    so nbnco had a stall set up at the local shopping centre and i asked when the rollout would be ready in my area... lo and behold they went straight to the finder.com.au site instead of any actual data they might have internally.

    wow.

  • 2016-May-11, 11:24 pm
    MrMac

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?

    TBH not looking into detail on dBm. It's estimates only with speed formula based on public info on expected speeds and I'll likely only publish a range eg. 60-80 for example. May actually ping Denmark555 as he has collated all the data reports on WP.

    mopo writes...

    so nbnco had a stall set up at the local shopping centre and i asked when the rollout would be ready in my area... lo and behold they went straight to the finder.com.au site instead of any actual data they might have internally.

    Wouldn't be the first time. Here is NBNCo showing Deputy PM Truss on how awesome NBNCo on 7:30 Report by using Finder (they were also showing the Wireless info)

    http://i.imgur.com/XHhZuUl.png

  • 2016-May-11, 11:26 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    MrMac writes...

    TBH not looking into detail on dBm. It's estimates only with speed formula based on public info on expected speeds and I'll likely only publish a range eg. 60-80 for example.

    Thanks Mr Mac.

    The big variable with denmark 555's data ... is all the variables. :)

    From my very limited perspective, this chart is as good as any for good copper and first point termination. :)

    http://s32.postimg.org/bx2hfdhit/VDSL2_distance_from_cabinet.jpg

    Source: IDATE (from an Ofcom report)

    It certainly plots me in about the right spot, with my speeds in the mid 60's at ~ 600m at Gorokan, NSW

  • MrMac
    this post was edited

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    It certainly plots me in about the right spot, with my speeds in the mid 60's at ~ 600m at Gorokan, NSW

    This is the baseline graph that I use for my calls, from which I would range. Needs a slight update as my formula drops in a little too early by about 50-100m

    Edit: forgot the graph http://i.imgur.com/Vq5no9Z.jpg but will take this to the vdsl thread now (not exactly mynbn!)

  • outback

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    this chart is as good as any for good copper

    The charts demonstrates that VDSL cannot deliver Malcolm's "guaranteed" 25Mbps if you're more than 1Km from the FTTN "node"

  • 2016-May-16, 5:54 pm
    AirJordanFan93

    Good to see my are 6JTS has finally been added to the rollout map.

  • 2016-May-16, 5:54 pm
    kewls

    So much for quick roll out.

    3EPP was initially planed for June 2016 for construction to start.

    NOW it is showing 3 years Plan. ( I am so sad)

  • 2016-May-16, 7:52 pm
    cloneme

    Thank you Mr Mac. a very good chart and it puts me at about 65down 25Up however I'm with Optus on 100/40 plan and this is todays 6am speed test http://netgauge.ookla.com/share/460743619.png . I am 527m from node in Gorokan same area as Wahroonga Farm :-)

    I rang optus once more and I am now told that, that is all I can get on my line??? I told him I have had speeds of 37Mbps and recorded and should be more but can't get anymore. I have already spoken to NBN and they told me they had advised them see this part of their letter.
    "Our records for your address do indicate that your preferred RSP has followed their correct process and lodged an incident for investigation. When checking the incident, we have responded to your RSP with what is causing your speed to be reduced and we have advised them on what they need to do to resolve the issue. You will need to contact your preferred RSP, they will need to check the notes on the incident they lodged through to us and they need to arrange to resolve your issues by following the instructions provided to them."

    Well based on all my speed tests I am being screwed.

  • 2016-May-16, 7:52 pm
    dJOS

    cloneme writes...

    I'm with Optus

    There's your problem right there! Their contention ratios are as bad as Dodo's these days!

  • 2016-May-18, 4:44 pm
    outback

    outback writes...

    4MLS, Maudsland Qld. The RFS shows 20-May-2016

    4MLS was activated on 20-May-2016,

    Tuxedo Junction still showing technology is Fibre to the Node, whereas all lots in this upmarket estate have FTTP � This photo (http://forum.delimiter.com.au/t/got-any-photos-of-nbn-infrastructure/121/25) taken from 27 FRED ASTAIRE AV, MAUDSLAND, QLD

    jxeeno writes...

    I'll go through and audit the data next week

    Jxeeno � Could you include 4MLS. Why is the technology type in Tuxedo Junction being concealed by NBN � maybe bacause all surrounding areas have the second-rate FTTN? See /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821#r1

  • 2016-May-18, 4:44 pm
    LithgowLights

    kewls writes...

    So much for quick roll out.

    3EPP was initially planed for June 2016 for construction to start.

    NOW it is showing 3 years Plan. ( I am so sad)

    Yep ours has been delayed a further 6 months (from Q1 2017 to H2 2017) for the build to start :(

  • bigmacmclean

    Hi everyone. Needing some advice from the more knowledgable.
    I love in 5REL-05 in SA
    All of 5REL has ADA info except -05 where I Am.

    Anyone know why or how this is updated?
    Interested to know how many premises on my node etc

  • eamn yidspla

    Jxeeno � I see the latest updates on the rollout are dated as 31 Mar, Are you still getting updated ADA info & RFS dates through your sources?

    Thanks

  • 2016-May-19, 1:50 pm
    Xtr33m3

    jxeeno writes...

    As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.

    It's just a political tool.

    This is exactly what happened for Alice Springs. We had guys doing inspections and delivering letters to people who were to have an FTTN node outside their house, yet no build prep on the map.

    Amazingly the Territory Chief Minister announce the next step of the 'Developing the North' plan for the NT, by the end of the day Alice Springs was suddenly in build preparation......

  • 2016-May-19, 1:50 pm
    agumby

    nvm

  • 2016-May-23, 1:18 pm
    agumby

    LithgowLights writes...

    Yep ours has been delayed a further 6 months (from Q1 2017 to H2 2017) for the build to start :(

    might turn out to be a good thing now as you may get fibre instead

  • 2016-May-23, 1:18 pm
    PeteP

    Regarding the mirage that is HFC.

    Given 4RDC-68 will be going RFS in 3 weeks time why is there no ADA information yet:
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/4RDC-68

    And has NBN assigned a Service Class yet to HFC?

  • 2016-May-24, 9:20 pm
    Gamer82
    this post was edited

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/6COW

    Build Commenced

    Premises 1,200

    About 5 months build prep time considering its a small town and its badly needed there as decent internet access there is terrible....well expensive 4G mobile broadband is the only option otherwise.

    I drive through that town on my to work Monday to Friday.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.8485054,115.104429,3a,60y,279.32h,88.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1secB1ad7-BCqvOMMJC1ml6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

    That's the town's Telstra exchange

  • 2016-May-24, 9:20 pm
    denmark555

    Looks like all the FTTN SAMs have been switched to Brownfields FTTP again during an update. I didn't think it would be that easy to do :)

    There should be more than 5 SAMs in this list for instance...

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/recent/copper

  • jmanwf
    this post was edited

    Well according to the update mynbn website to Flagstaff Hill has just gone into build Preperation although not on the offical nbn website http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/5CMD

    Is the website pretty accurate 5CMD has changed today.

    Projected # SAMs (may only include 3 yr plan#)Fixed-Line was FTTX5 before today now 6 today

  • jxeeno
    O.P.

    denmark555 writes...

    I didn't think it would be that easy to do :)

    I think I've found the culprit (currently re-running the update), nbn seems to want to change its technology identifier every month ;)

  • 2016-May-31, 12:06 pm
    thebookfreak58

    Any chance of the usual listing of updates?

  • 2016-May-31, 12:06 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    PeteP writes...

    Given 4RDC-68 will be going RFS in 3 weeks time why is there no ADA information yet:
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/4RDC-68

    And has NBN assigned a Service Class yet to HFC?

    Unfortunately, there's no new data for ADA information at this stage.

    There are HFC Service Classes though � SC 20 to 23, mirrors 0-3 on FTTP and 10-13 on other FTTx.

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:06 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    thebookfreak58 writes...

    Any chance of the usual listing of updates?

    Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:06 pm
    thebookfreak58

    jxeeno writes...

    Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.

    Good luck!

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:07 pm
    Thomson Tam

    jxeeno writes...

    Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.

    Best wish to your exam!

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:07 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    As posted on the rollout progress thread

    jxeeno writes...

    Rollout Progress Update � June 2016

    Full list and details: http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-rollout-update-june-2016

    thebookfreak58 writes...

    Good luck!

    Thomson Tam writes...

    Best wish to your exam!

    Thanks y'all

  • 2016-Jun-17, 9:52 am
    money_killer

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=9%20Anzac%20Avenue,%20Beerburrum,%20Queensland,%20Australia

    dammit. only 200 house in my town and the x change is across the street. the next town/ x-change to me already has it. no info on mine wtf ..

  • 2016-Jun-17, 9:52 am
    GEPLAYER

    Thanks for all the hard work with the updates Jxeeno. Seems really weird though that all these areas are going into build yet theres no actual work being done on the ground. My area 3WBO has been in build for nearly 4 months now and I haven't seen any work or any nbn labeled vehicles anywhere, and I've driven around the Brownfields SAM locations. With some sites RFS in Oct and Nov....I can't see them being done anywhere near on time.

    There's been no media on it, no work...aside from the occasional vaccum truck, 1 of which I saw 6months ago and another I saw 2 weeks ago...nothing else in between. Really odd. Is this a phenomenon you're seeing in your data analysis of the nbn progress?

  • weetbix4011

    I cant believe it. "Build Commenced" has finally happened!!.

    I'm in Yass and build commenced only shows for the southern part of the town. I assume it will be done in two stages and they wont just do the southern part and leave the northern? I of course live in the Northen side.

  • jmanwf

    Question guys is this site pretty accurate for rollout information etc because it has Flagstaff Hill 5CMD has just gone into build preparation mode also the number of sams is now 6. The Build preparation isnt show in green on the nbn map yet for my area

  • 2016-Jun-17, 1:53 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    this site is inaccurate and has false information on it .

    Before the government changed, my area was listed on the map as build commenced.

    In come the new government and within a month the entire town was switched to no build commenced, it stayed like that for years.

    However I recently had fibre pulled to my house, yup FTTP, its not finished yet, but its not FTTN the map now says that my area is build commenced again, but it also says that everyone is getting FTTN including me, so unless they are going to also run copper from a node I don't see how any of this info on this site can be considered relevant.

    The fact that I am getting FTTP means that this build WAS in fact commenced before the change of government as why would they put in FTTP when they are avoiding that at all costs everywhere else ? because it was already in build from labours plan v1. so they lied when they took the build commenced away, and they are lying now when they say this is one of their successes in getting people connected, because labour is getting me connected from plan v1. They also are lying about the tech that is going in on their rollout map.

    so first off. Don't believe anything you see on that site, its probably wrong.
    secondly yeah I have had this coil of fibre hanging from the wall of my house for over a month now and nothing else has happened the cable is pulled from the FDH to my house .... the map states I am to be ready for service in November this year ?? I don't trust that because everything else about my location is wrong on their site. But having said that I don't doubt it could/will take many more months before I can apply for a service.

  • 2016-Jun-17, 1:53 pm
    Who Needs a Name?

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    this site is inaccurate and has false information on it

    Out of curiosity what does the nbnco website say about your location?

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:35 pm
    jmanwf

    The reason why i ask is because Flagstaff Hill has been put into Build preparation on this site but it has not been shaded in green on the official nbn website.

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/5CMD-20

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:35 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    Endgame writes...

    Out of curiosity what does the nbnco website say about your location?

    it says

    Good news, construction of the nbn� network started in your area using fixed line technology. Construction takes approximately 12 months, on average, to complete.

    it goes on to say that fixed line can mean pretty much anything except wireless

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:53 pm
    Who Needs a Name?

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    it says

    Good news, construction of the nbn� network started in your area using fixed line technology. Construction takes approximately 12 months, on average, to complete.

    it goes on to say that fixed line can mean pretty much anything except wireless

    ahh, so in other words typical NBN crap

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:53 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    this site is inaccurate and has false information on it .

    Hi Deadly Chicken,

    Firstly, thanks for your feedback. But unfortunately, the information on our site can only be as accurate as what NBN Co provides. The fickle nature of the Multi-Technology Mix rollout means that the final technology you will end up receiving may change even as the build happens.

    As I have said on the rollout progress page, the area you're in (which appears to be 4FRV-01, correct me if I'm wrong) has a few "New Development" (Greenfields) rollouts within in. It's possible calculated it would be cheaper to roll out a new fibre cable to your place rather than connect you to a node if you close to a new development.

    However, as I have said, even the most recent information from NBN Co indicates that your entire Service Area Module will get FTTN (with the exception of the New Development, obviously).

    Don't believe anything you see on that site, its probably wrong.
    secondly yeah I have had this coil of fibre hanging from the wall of my house for over a month now and nothing else has happened the cable is pulled from the FDH to my house .... the map states I am to be ready for service in November this year ?? I don't trust that because everything else about my location is wrong on their site. But having said that I don't doubt it could/will take many more months before I can apply for a service

    As this thread would show, the site has proved to be quite accurate for the majority of people. There are obviously exceptions to the case and as I've said � we can only be as accurate as the NBN's own information.

    In your case, your best method to verify that status of your address is probably to call up or contact NBN Co directly. They have internal systems which can likely tell you which technology your premises is currently designed to use.

    Hope that helps,
    jx

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:09 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    jmanwf writes...

    The reason why i ask is because Flagstaff Hill has been put into Build preparation on this site but it has not been shaded in green on the official nbn website

    NBN Co is phasing out the "build preparation" status on its rollout map, meaning it's no longer shaded until your area reaches the "build commenced" stage. From memory, the last batch of "build preparation" which were added to the map were from March 2016 (or thereabouts).

    We're looking at a number of options on how best to deal with this situation because as is evident, it causes a bit of confusion when an area does reach the "build preparation" page but an end user can't see themselves on the map.

    The truth is, even though we know an area has gone into preparation stage � we don't know the boundaries of that rollout area until it's published by NBN on their rollout map.

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:09 pm
    natlee

    I have a question that nobody has been able to answer, maybe someone here can answer it.
    On the 16th of May my area in Maryland NSW as well as Fletcher was shown on the rollout map as build has started, then 2 weeks later it only shows Fletcher. Now this week the rollout map shows the other part Maryland has gone into build but not mine. I spoke to construction crew in my street yesterday and they told me that area is 2NTL-01. Which includes the area that shows Fletcher as build. Also Mynbn is now only showing fletcher as of yesterday instead saying parts of Fletcher and Maryland like it said earlier in the week? I am just very confused. Any light on this would be great. Thanks

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:11 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    jxeeno writes...

    In your case, your best method to verify that status of your address is probably to call up or contact NBN Co directly. They have internal systems which can likely tell you which technology your premises is currently designed to use.

    ok thanks, I didn't mean offense, about the site, its just not accurate for me I know what tech I am getting because
    http://users.on.net/~deadlychicken/Images/nbn.jpg

    I'm pretty sure that's fibre pulled to my house ?

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:11 pm
    NetskyAU

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    I'm pretty sure that's fibre pulled to my house ?

    Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg

    Edit: Oops, small oversight. Nothing to see here! Move along!

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:16 pm
    Quentin Rittman

    NetskyAU writes...

    Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg

    the cable is the fibre leadin, PCD just hasn't been installed yet.

    (there are already 2 cables to the Telstra madison box)

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:16 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    yeah man, calm down .. they only pulled the cable a month ago give them some time :/ lol

  • 2016-Jun-18, 8:10 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    natlee writes...

    Also Mynbn is now only showing fletcher as of yesterday instead saying parts of Fletcher and Maryland like it said earlier in the week? I am just very confused. Any light on this would be great. Thanks

    Hi natlee,

    I've just checked and can confirm that 2NLT-01 has shrunk westwards between May and June. It's likely that they've split the rollout region into two parts (basically west Fletcher and east Fletcher). However, I'm not privy as to why that's happened... you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.

    Sorry I can't help any further.

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Jun-18, 8:10 pm
    natlee

    jxeeno writes...

    Hi natlee,

    I've just checked and can confirm that 2NLT-01 has shrunk westwards between May and June. It's likely that they've split the rollout region into two parts (basically west Fletcher and east Fletcher). However, I'm not privy as to why that's happened... you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.

    Sorry I can't help any further.

    Cheers,
    jx

    Thanks,
    I have ask them, via Facebook and email and both times all they told me "the nbn is your at your address, update your email for updates"
    However, there was contractors in my street yesterday building a new nbn pit 50meters from node nbn put in in May before they changed the map. Hopefully we have gone back into prep mode. We see a change in the near future.
    Thanks for getting back to me

  • outback

    jxeeno writes...

    you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.

    Hi jxeeno � hope the exams went well.

    NBN has been contacted regarding technology type used in the Tuxedo Junction estate in the Maudsland exchange (4MLS) area but have not responded.

    Residents in Maudsland are very interested to find out more about how the fully developed 10+ yr old Tuxedo Junction estate managed to get FTTP while surrounding areas have the second rate FTTN, for some this will be a factor in how they vote.

    Although this exchange was RFS on 20-May-2016 your info still shows that FTTN has been installed in that location.

    outback writes...

    Also one area (Tuxedo Junction Estate) has been installed with FTTP but your finder tool is still reporting FTTN � http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Ave,%20Maudsland,%20QLD,%204210,%20Australia

    see /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502706#r4

    How often do you get updates from NBN?
    How many brownfields have you seen change from FTTN to FTTP since Turnbull chucked out FTTP?

  • Deadly Chicken

    NetskyAU writes...

    Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg

    Edit: Oops, small oversight. Nothing to see here! Move along

    just for completeness sake, I came home to this tonight

    http://users.on.net/~deadlychicken/Images/nbn2.jpg

  • 2016-Jun-19, 8:04 am
    outback

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    just for completeness sake, I came home to this tonight
    http://users.on.net/~deadlychicken/Images/nbn2.jpg

    Are you in a brownfield? What exchange area?
    I thought Malcolm had abandonned FTTP

  • 2016-Jun-19, 8:04 am
    TryAgain87

    Hey Jxeeno,
    I've noticed a bit of an interesting one and thought you might have some more information on it.

    The NBN Service Portal shows the 5REL-03-01 area as Service Class 0 (FTTP) but the Finder Rollout map has the same area as Service Class 10 (FTTN).

    Do you know what's happening in this area?

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:05 pm
    outback

    TryAgain87 writes...

    I've noticed a bit of an interesting one

    Might be the same as what's happening in Tuxedo Junction, which I've asked jxeeno about on numerous occasions.

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia (shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location)

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&p=2#bottom

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502714#r6

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:05 pm
    djmickyp1969

    Howdy All

    I cant see here anything is written about the FTTN boxes in Maryland so thought id add this

    There are 3 FTTN boxes now installed in Boundary Road, Maryland
    1 near a big telstra pit near the shopping center (opp number 18) and has had techs working on it this week.
    the next one is outside 44 Boundary rd, Maryland and the next 72 Boundry Road Maryland

    i have seen a digger/driller on the corner of Prospero and Boundry last week and Ill continue to keep watch on the locations as im sure ill be fed from one of the boxes (44 is approx 200mts from box to my house based on past issue, running house to pit, pit to pit across the road, and tech said i was fed from the boundry road direction even though i have a telstra pillar on my opposite corner to my house) .

    Cheers
    Mike
    Warkworth St, Maryland!

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:25 pm
    Cashie

    I see that you've changed my RFS to 29 May 16, it was 30 Jun 16, neither appear correct, is there an issue with the database for this site?
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/6PNJ-51-06-NODT

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:25 pm
    natlee

    djmickyp1969 writes...

    There are 3 FTTN boxes now installed in Boundary Road, Maryland
    1 near a big telstra pit near the shopping center (opp number 18) and has had techs working on it this week.
    the next one is outside 44 Boundary rd, Maryland and the next 72 Boundry Road Maryland

    There is also, 2 in Callan Ave, one at each end. They have been working on them during the week. The funny thing is that we are still not on the map.

  • 2016-Jun-27, 12:17 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Based on the feedback we've received from users about the confusing dual display (rollout region on the left, address info as infobox), we've rolled out an updated map interface to consolidate this data in a single infobox to make it clearer for everyone. The new UI should also be more mobile friendly.

    Additional rollout region information such as POI, CSA, SA and SAM continues to be available by clicking the "More info" link.

  • 2016-Jun-27, 12:17 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Cashie writes...

    I see that you've changed my RFS to 29 May 16, it was 30 Jun 16, neither appear correct, is there an issue with the database for this site?

    Thanks for the heads up. It should say 31 Aug 2016. I'll investigate what's going on here.

  • 2016-Jun-27, 11:51 pm
    ?zu??

    jxeeno writes...

    Additional rollout region information such as POI, CSA, SA and SAM continues to be available by clicking the "More info" link.

    How would one find out which node they are connected to on the new UI? Used to be on the panel on the left, but now it's no where to be seen.

    Also, with the box at the bottom popping up, it makes it feel very cramped. Would be better to have it as a vertical panel like previously IMO, even if it was the same info, just arranged vertically. Or expanding the map vertically another 50% would make it much more usable

  • 2016-Jun-27, 11:51 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    ?zu?? writes...

    Also, with the box at the bottom popping up, it makes it feel very cramped. Would be better to have it as a vertical panel like previously IMO, even if it was the same info, just arranged vertically. Or expanding the map vertically another 50% would make it much more usable

    Understood, although the reason behind the move to the bottom pop-up is the make sure it worked with mobile. Having the panel on the LHS made the map fairly unusable on mobile without a slideout panel

    How would one find out which node they are connected to on the new UI? Used to be on the panel on the left, but now it's no where to be seen.

    You're right. Looks like it got dropped off the final release. It should be there as a tooltip, I'll get it popped back in.

  • 2016-Jun-29, 8:40 pm
    ?zu??

    jxeeno writes...

    Understood, although the reason behind the move to the bottom pop-up is the make sure it worked with mobile. Having the panel on the LHS made the map fairly unusable on mobile without a slideout panel

    Fair enough. I just feel that this feels more spacious and easier to view the map on desktop: http://i.imgur.com/dmMNv3B.png

    Could always define the CSS based on screen orientation?

    You're right. Looks like it got dropped off the final release. It should be there as a tooltip, I'll get it popped back in.

    Thanks, It's a useful tool to figure out line lengths and such!

  • 2016-Jun-29, 8:40 pm
    outback

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia

    shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location.

    How reliable is info on the finder site with regards to technology type in use?

  • 2016-Jun-30, 2:55 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    outback writes...

    shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location.

    How reliable is info on the finder site with regards to technology type in use?

    Looking into this. Looks like NBN originally designated FTTN to that address, but switched to FTTP at a later date. We should have an updated address list next week which should solve the issue.

  • 2016-Jun-30, 2:55 pm
    Sgt Batten

    Hi jxeeno,

    Thank for the update. For some reason the more info button goes to a 404error in my area. 2NLT-02

    I tried other brown areas and they seemed to work.

    Also you have our rfs date as December this year but we only just appeared on the Telstra documents about a month ago and our rfs date is listed at 09 may 17.

    Thirdly my house is new as of 2014 and is one of three houses that replaced a single dwelling at the same address. Google maps etc only shows the one residence and our 3 addresses have the same location ID. Is this a concern or simply a limitation of the mapping tool until updated by google/nbn

  • 2016-Jun-30, 6:58 pm
    jujay

    Hi jxeeno,

    The SAM for my area shows as "Ready for service" according to the tracker http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sam/2SIL-03

    However, on the map, it comes up brown, as in "build commenced". Given the conflicting info, would you say that it's very close to actually being available?

    Thanks

  • 2016-Jun-30, 6:58 pm
    NetskyAU

    It is avaliable. The map updates once a week to reflect the change of colour. You should be good to go.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:15 pm
    jujay

    NetskyAU writes...

    It is avaliable. The map updates once a week to reflect the change of colour. You should be good to go

    Thanks. I thought so too but when I try to sign up with TPG for example, it says my address is not available for NBN yet (and their customer service department confirmed this by phone also) :S

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:15 pm
    NetskyAU

    Odd. Have you tried another RSP? Are you in a block of units?

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:16 pm
    jujay

    Yes, just tried dodo, and it's the same result. I am in a block of units, does that make a difference?

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:16 pm
    NetskyAU

    Sometimes units can be delayed by various reasons. It may be easier for you to post in your recommended area thread to get assistance.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:18 pm
    jujay

    Ok will do. Thanks for your input NetskyAU :)

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:18 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Sgt Batten writes...

    For some reason the more info button goes to a 404error in my area. 2NLT-02

    Thanks for letting me know, looks like an issue with the new map interface. Investigating now :)

  • outback

    jxeeno writes...

    We should have an updated address list next week

    Of course, after the election, we'll let everyone know that Tuxedo Junction has FTTP (rolled out under MTM) while surrounding areas in Maudsland (4MLS- Gold Coast Hinterland) have second rate FTTN.

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&p=2#bottom

  • jxeeno
    O.P.
    this post was edited

    outback writes...

    Of course, after the election, we'll let everyone know that Tuxedo Junction has FTTP (rolled out under MTM) while surrounding areas in Maudsland (4MLS- Gold Coast Hinterland) have second rate FTTN.

    I assure you there is no conspiracy related to the election.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:20 pm
    outback

    jxeeno writes...

    there is not conspiracy related to the election

    Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia to see how soon it gets corrected after we know who will be running the NBN next week.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:20 pm
    Sgt Batten

    outback writes...

    Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site

    You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:01 am
    Brian White

    outback writes...

    Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site

    Jxeeno runs the site, LOL.

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:01 am
    STANnFRETY

    Brian White writes...

    Jxeeno runs the site, LOL.

    hahahaha

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:37 pm
    Cashie

    Sgt Batten writes...

    You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.

    Classic... Yes he is.

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:37 pm
    outback

    Sgt Batten writes...

    You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.

    Yeah, but sourced from NBN. If you look at that link (today � 4 Jul-2016) it displays "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".
    NBN have not updated whatever jxeeno is using as a data source since that time, I'm suggesting that is/was politically motivated and updates are pending political events. jxeeno has no control of the source of information, but does a fine job of displaying it � better than NBN. Many kudos to jxeeno for such a fine job.

  • jxeeno
    O.P.

    Well, this is embarrassing. I forgot I wouldn't have a stable internet connection today, so update will probably come later this week. Sorry :(

  • Derek

    This seems pretty obvious however I'll ask: I am moving to a new estate where myNBN indicates as active greenfield FTTP so I assume that NBN FTTP is a go?

    I noted that Harbour ISP had already setup a modem and brochures in my apartment which seems cheeky (or good marketing?).

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:24 pm
    benjsc

    jxeeno writes...

    Well, this is embarrassing. I forgot I wouldn't have a stable internet connection today, so update will probably come later this week. Sorry :(

    Classic, you must be on the MTM!

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:24 pm
    Cashie

    benjsc writes...

    Classic, you must be on the MTM!

    You might be able to verify at this website ;-)

    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:34 pm
    eamn yidspla

    Hi Jxeeno, just wondering with 3CRB-07 there is no ADA info available, and its due to go RFS on Friday. I have no idea which Node I am connected to, though I am in a small block of units, is it possible I would get FTTB?

    Thanks

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:34 pm
    outback

    outback writes...

    "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".

    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia still says ""Accurate as at: 2016-02-20" even though "Ready for Service 22 May 2016" and "This area recently went active so we can't guarantee that a provider could connect you immediately." Also still incorrectly states "Rollout Type Fibre to the Node", whereas it's FTTP (/forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&r=50811307#r50811307}. Still waiting for NBN to explain why this brownfield qualified for FTTP, while surrounding areas have FTTN.

  • 2016-Jul-10, 11:05 am
    Neil Mac

    outback writes...

    Yeah, but sourced from NBN. If you look at that link (today � 4 Jul-2016) it displays "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".

    Accurate? ... Compared to Google Earth the map is almost 20 years old.

  • 2016-Jul-10, 11:05 am
    Dazed and Confused.

    outback writes...

    Still waiting for NBN to explain why this brownfield qualified for FTTP, while surrounding areas have FTTN.

    someone "important" live there?

  • 2016-Jul-10, 3:40 pm
    zetta

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    someone "important" live there?

    someone well connected before they got NBN and even better connected now they have a taxpayer funded FTTP, while it seems everyone around them has FTTN

  • 2016-Jul-10, 3:40 pm
    outback

    outback writes...

    "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20" even though "Ready for Service 22 May 2016"

    NBN (and jxeeno) still list the upmarket Gold Coast Hinterland estate Tuxedo Junction technology as FTTN, whereas it somehow managed to get a tax payer funded FTTP rollout, while surrounding areas have second rate FTTN.

    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia

  • 2016-Jul-10, 6:39 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    outback writes...

    NBN (and jxeeno) still list the upmarket Gold Coast Hinterland estate Tuxedo Junction technology as FTTN, whereas it somehow managed to get a tax payer funded FTTP rollout, while surrounding areas have second rate FTTN.

    isn't that Russ HInze's stomping ground?
    guess political favours carry over after death

  • 2016-Jul-10, 6:39 pm
    outback

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    Russ HInze's stomping ground?

    Yeah, I think they buried him in a nearby valley, it's called the Hinze Dam now

  • 2016-Jul-15, 5:49 pm
    ?zu??

    Not sure if I am blind or things have moved around, but I used to be able to see the number of premises to be connected to each node by clicking on the map (before the update). Is this information still available somewhere?

    edit: found it, under ADA info after clicking more info.

  • 2016-Jul-15, 5:49 pm
    skylinewa

    I'm a bit lost/confused regarding inclusion on or exclusion from the infamous 3-year plan.

    6KAL (https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/6KAL) shows 8000 @ FFTN for construction H1/2018 and RFS H2/2018, consistent with http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/three-year-construction-plan.html. My suburb is included in the "indicative localities" but entering anywhere in our street gives the dreaded "No service info" and "nbn will be coming to your area, however construction is not expected to commence for at least another three years."

    Does this indicate that only PART of 6KAL/my_suburb is in the 3-year plan? How can I burrow down to get a better idea of planned build/RFS times?

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:26 pm
    eamn yidspla

    Has anyone noticed any other Sam's that dont have the ADA info populated? 3CRB-07 went RFS on 8th July, and still doesnt have updated ADA info, I have no idea which node I am connected to

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:26 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    eamn yidspla writes...

    Has anyone noticed any other Sam's that dont have the ADA info populated? 3CRB-07 went RFS on 8th July, and still doesnt have updated ADA info, I have no idea which node I am connected to

    this info it seems is no longer obtainable from nbn�

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:57 pm
    Alvacs

    I'm trying to use the rollout map on my ipad and i cant access the search bar anymore. http://imgur.com/a/E2Uyn
    Anyone able to give me a quick fix?

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:57 pm
    number-7

    Alvacs writes...

    Anyone able to give me a quick fix?

    Works fine for me on my iPad Air 2. Perhaps try going directly to https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker and the address search bar should appear in the middle of the page.

  • ClaudeKrowe

    Hi everyone,

    For FSAM 4FRV-03 � Frenchville Service Area (Central Qld � POI 4ROT)

    The map is brown and indicates In Build with RFS November 16

    So my question is, does the 18 month swap over countdown start from 1-11-2016

    Answering this helps out my pensioner Mum

    Thanks in anticipation all

    ClaudeKrowe

  • NetskyAU

    I believe it starts on the day of Ready for Service.

  • 2016-Jul-24, 1:13 am
    Alvacs

    number-7 writes...

    Perhaps try going directly to https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker and the address search bar should appear in the middle of the page.

    Thanks, I can search addresses directly from there

  • 2016-Jul-24, 1:13 am
    Chuppa

    yo29 writes...

    It says that roll out type is FBBN but when i click on more info and service area module most premises are service class 1 and 3? Does that mean i am getting FTTC or FTTN.. Its a new suburb that was built is 2012?

    Have a look a the link you posted (which you should remove unless you want some weirdo visitors to your home address). It shows on the map page "Rollout Type: Fibre to the Node".

  • 2016-Jul-26, 3:46 pm
    yo29

    Thanks Chuppa.
    Why does is say most premises are service class 1 or 3 in premises bu sevice class? Is that fibre to premises?

  • 2016-Jul-26, 3:46 pm
    YMO

    Service Class
    Service Class Definition

    Service Class 0
    the location is planned to be serviceable by fibre

    Service Class 1
    the location is serviceable by fibre, no PCD or NTD in place

    Service Class 2
    the location is serviceable by fibre, PCD installed, no NTD in place

    Service Class 3
    the location is serviceable by fibre, PCD and NTD in place

  • 2016-Jul-26, 4:13 pm
    yo29

    Thanks YMO. But my question is why did it say roll out type is FTTN but premises service class is 1 or 3? Service class 1 and 3 are serviceable by fibre but rollout type is still FTTN. Sorry if its a stupid question.
    Thanks in advance

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:09 pm
    Mesmus

    skylinewa writes...

    Does this indicate that only PART of 6KAL/my_suburb is in the 3-year plan? How can I burrow down to get a better idea of planned build/RFS times?

    They probably don't update that until it gets closer to construction date. I'm scheduled for H2. 2017 and I still get the same message.

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:09 pm
    Lord Hisssss.

    Tracker need to be updated. I put our address in to see if it was available it said it was not available and was coming within three years.

    Well I got news for NBN Tracker I have NBN Satellite ( Sky buster) installed last month and it working fine.

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:31 pm
    Sgt Batten
    this post was edited

    yo29 writes...

    But my question is why did it say roll out type is FTTN but premises service class is 1 or 3? Service class 1 and 3 are serviceable by fibre but rollout type is still FTTN

    Because FTTN is still fibre.

    Edit, wrong

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:31 pm
    dJOS

    Sgt Batten writes...

    Because FTTN is still fibre

    Not in this universe it isn't.

  • Sgt Batten
    this post was edited

    Mistaken

  • Dazed and Confused.

    Sgt Batten writes...

    Perhaps for the purpose of answering his question which is all I was doing.

    nbn� have service classes for copper, so fibre classes shouldn't be used in reporting, not sure where the error is generated

    Service Class 10 location is planned to be serviceable by copper
    Service Class 11 the location is serviceable by copper, copper lead-in required
    Service Class 12 the location is serviceable by copper, jumpering is required
    Service Class 13 location is serviceable by copper, infrastructure in place

    information taken from https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/faq/list and compared with nbn� documents

  • 2016-Jul-31, 4:40 pm
    Sgt Batten

    Thanks for clarifying

  • 2016-Jul-31, 4:40 pm
    yo29

    Thanks for the clarification. Was getting my hope up when i saw service class 1 and 3.

  • Holdensupporter2005

    Lord Hisssss. writes...

    Tracker need to be updated. I put our address in to see if it was available it said it was not available and was coming within three years.

    Well I got news for NBN Tracker I have NBN Satellite ( Sky buster) installed last month and it working fine.

    It's possible that you will be getting Fixed Wireless / FTTN within 3 years.
    Areas that don't have anything are generally shown as NBN Satellite.

  • outback

    yo29 writes...

    But my question is why did it say roll out type is FTTN

    In some areas technology was a sensitive issue prior to the election ... /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&r=50811307#r50811307

  • 2016-Aug-1, 9:36 am
    Cashie

    jxeeno writes...

    Thanks for the heads up. It should say 31 Aug 2016. I'll investigate what's going on here.

    I see this is still showing May RFS, will this be updated to reflect an accurate RFS?

  • 2016-Aug-1, 9:36 am
    Holdensupporter2005

    Is there any updates to the website data?
    The data for me says accurate as at 31 May 2016 almost 3 months out.

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:04 am
    Dazed and Confused.

    Holdensupporter2005 writes...

    Is there any updates to the website data?
    The data for me says accurate as at 31 May 2016 almost 3 months out.

    I would guess that this is the last bit of data that was able to be sourced out of nbn�

    also I would guess that data may also have become much harder to find in the back alley now after the AFP have been nosing around

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:04 am
    FibreFuture

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    also I would guess that data may also have become much harder to find in the back alley now after the AFP have been nosing around

    Dam, was waiting to see when the SC3 (Service Class 3) stats would appear for my area to see how many approx people have taken up NBN services in my area.

    at least I can still tell if they have an NTD by the conduit running up into the roof on the side of peoples houses where the PCD is. (Most installs in my rollout zone have comms conduits running up into the roof ducts on the side of houses)

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:22 am
    Holdensupporter2005
    this post was edited

    the RFS dates in my area have gone to Not Available,
    When it previously had dates set.

    In fact all areas now say "Not Available" for RFS date where a build is active.
    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/list/rsort/rfs/status/build/p/1

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:22 am
    GEPLAYER

    My guess is the sites being updated. A lot of users are reporting the sane change.

  • 2016-Aug-2, 10:48 am
    eamn yidspla

    It looks like Jxeeno isnt able to get data anymore from NBN.. as it has not been updated for ages..

    Same for Dcoopes and his node data, hasnt been updated in over 3 mths

  • 2016-Aug-2, 10:48 am
    Holdensupporter2005

    It is a shame that this info is not available to the public.
    Even on the main NBNCo Website, very little information is provided.

  • 2016-Aug-3, 8:42 pm
    gavinWA

    It's deliberate. Amongst other things, giving detailed information on the build stops people ignorantly renewing on 24 month plans on their existing provider and gives nbn competitors better ideas where they should concentrate their efforts.

  • 2016-Aug-3, 8:42 pm
    PeteP

    Holdensupporter2005 writes...

    Even on the main NBNCo Website, very little information is provided.

    The only reliable source left available is:
    https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/nbn/Documents/rollout-list.xlsx
    Go to Expected RFS sheet

  • 2016-Aug-31, 2:19 pm
    TakeMeOffGrid

    How recent is that Telstra wholesale document?

  • 2016-Aug-31, 2:19 pm
    Panaphonic

    TakeMeOffGrid writes...

    How recent is that Telstra wholesale document?

    You can see how recent the schedule is if you go to the webpage at https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/nbn/overview/nbn-rollout-schedule.html

    As at the time of this posting the last update was 25th August 2016.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 3:51 pm
    scowty

    How accurate are the RFS dates? My suburbs expected RFS is this friday but haven't received any info about it at all.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 3:51 pm
    hawtdawg

    My suburb went active last Friday which reflected the document

  • 2016-Aug-31, 8:16 pm
    Holdensupporter2005

    Maybe Jxeeno should be updating the website using the info from the TelstraWholesale report if he can't get the data from NBNco. I'm sure being Telstra Wholesale it should be pretty accurate.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 8:16 pm
    FibreFuture

    Jxeeno has said in the past that he would never use Telstra wholesale despite what information they have but now that NBN has tightened things up he may have too use TW anyway even tho he doesn't want to as that's probably the only option left without having to dig deep for information.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 9:17 pm
    STANnFRETY

    Man I just checked that document and it now has my suburb going RFS in feb 2018 when previously on finder it was set for a Q3 2016 build commenced date. FML :(

  • 2016-Aug-31, 9:17 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    STANnFRETY writes...

    Man I just checked that document and it now has my suburb going RFS in feb 2018 when previously on finder it was set for a Q3 2016 build commenced date. FML :(

    soona*, cheapa*, fasta*

    *the use of these new words is done to confuse, whilst they sound like the words "sooner, faster and cheaper" they are new advertising constructs that actually mean slower, costlier and slower

  • 2016-Sep-1, 1:31 am
    Rev Black Grape

    i cant find my suburb on any of the roll out maps or telstra things to say when it would be done etc.

    and yet all new estates around me, including one about 0.5 k m away are getting it..

    thornlands qld 4164 is my suburb.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 1:31 am
    Jim Bookis

    Have a look at the 3 year plan.

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/three-year-construction-plan.html

    Thornlands is H2-2017 start work at the earliest. So if you are not on the RFS spreadsheet they are not even thinking about you yet.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:45 am
    Luthor

    My bad, I did misread.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:45 am
    Derwan

    Jim Bookis writes...

    Have a look at the 3 year plan.

    The plan that was last updated almost a year ago...

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:54 am
    scowty

    Contacted Telstra and they said there's been delays so the RFS date is incorrect :/

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:54 am
    hawtdawg

    The document is updated on Fridays .. check tomorrow :)

  • 2016-Sep-1, 10:12 am
    Rev Black Grape

    Thanks jim bookis

  • 2016-Sep-1, 10:12 am
    HY

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    soona*, cheapa*, fasta*

    And "more" "transparent" then before they Took Over�.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 12:39 pm
    scowty

    Turns out the rollout date was accurate, signing up to TPG 25/5 tonight. I'm not sure which node i'll be connected to but they're all over 650m away.
    The best thing about having 2mbit ADSL2+ is that even appalling fraudband speeds are a significant improvement.

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