Thứ Năm, 29 tháng 9, 2016

myNBN - rollout tracker part 8

  • 2016-Mar-1, 8:12 am
    Wahroonga Farm

    jxeeno writes...

    The satellite information has actually been improved because NBN begun working out which addresses are getting satellite.

    Does that mean that we will never see a graphical representation of SKY MUSTER� coverage and that satellite premises will only be identified by a specific address search?

  • 2016-Mar-1, 8:12 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    interfreak writes...

    jxeeno, I noticed on the recent activations page that it seems to be a few days out of date? on mynbn.info it was showing activations for 29/2 now it only shows up to 25/2.

    Cheers, fixed!

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Does that mean that we will never see a graphical representation of SKY MUSTER� coverage and that satellite premises will only be identified by a specific address search?

    Not unless nbn releases it ;)

    clicknetoz writes...

    Yes, it has, but I was talking about the Google Maps satellite image feature

    Ahh, I see what you mean. I'll check to see what we can do about it!

  • 2016-Mar-1, 8:25 am
    clicknetoz

    jxeeno writes...

    Ahh, I see what you mean. I'll check to see what we can do about it!

    Thanks :-)

  • 2016-Mar-1, 8:25 am
    Midnight Rider

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Does that mean that we will never see a graphical representation of SKY MUSTER� coverage

    My understanding is that Sky Muster coverage includes all of Australia, plus surrounding territories.

    When the 2nd satellite is launched, the coverage will be the same, except obviously the total available bandwidth will be increased. (doubled?)

  • 2016-Mar-1, 8:30 am
    Wahroonga Farm

    Midnight Rider writes...

    My understanding

    I guess that one of these days ... sometime in the future ... we'll be able to zoom into the large brown land ...

    http://s9.postimg.org/ff3iubsi7/screenshot_1165.jpg

    ... and see exactly mapped; who has a fixed nbn connection and resolve that the everyone who hasn't ... must be SKY MUSTER�. ;)

  • 2016-Mar-1, 8:30 am
    Wahroonga Farm

    But right now .. it doesn't.

    PS I've gone back to nbn maps to get rid of the unfortunate finder banners. :angry:

    http://s9.postimg.org/yy843or9r/screenshot_1166.jpg

  • 2016-Mar-1, 10:45 am
    Cap'n Silver

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/nbn-app/rollout/5MOD-09

    Why is everything listed as inactive

    This area has been active since November last year? (i swear they all showed active just the other week?, and I am on it, so I know it's active)

  • 2016-Mar-1, 10:45 am
    Thomson Tam

    May I ask is H1-2017 mean first half of 2017?

  • 2016-Mar-1, 11:32 am
    Aeroplane

    Thomson Tam writes...

    May I ask is H1-2017 mean first half of 2017?

    It does, yes.

  • 2016-Mar-1, 11:32 am
    Dazed and Confused.

    Thomson Tam writes...

    May I ask is H1-2017 mean first half of 2017?

    that is generally accepted meaning of the term

    but like lots of things with MTM the meaning could be fluid

  • 2016-Mar-1, 11:42 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Cap'n Silver writes...

    This area has been active since November last year? (i swear they all showed active just the other week?, and I am on it, so I know it's active)

    Hey Cap'n Silver,

    That page shows up as being active for me. It also says Ready for Service: "05 Nov 2015".

    Perhaps you were looking at the wrong page before?

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Mar-1, 11:42 am
    interfreak

    I think he means the ADA info � all of them are marked 'inactive' but you can see that a few of them are serviceable and have had people connected.

  • 2016-Mar-2, 9:31 am
    TheGruff

    Hi Jxeeno,

    Does mynbn have a page whereby you can select an RSP and see what POI's they access. Almost the reverse of this page http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/nbn-app/poi/list

  • 2016-Mar-2, 9:31 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    interfreak writes...

    I think he means the ADA info � all of them are marked 'inactive' but you can see that a few of them are serviceable and have had people connected.

    Ooh I see, that's weird. Will check it out. I have a feeling that's been an issue for some time.

    Cheers Cap'n Silver (and interfreak) :)

  • 2016-Mar-2, 10:00 am
    denmark555

    On the recent activations list, I noticed some of the FTTN SAMs are showing up as Brownfields FTTP with 0 premises, e.g.

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/nbn-app/rollout/2HAM-09

  • 2016-Mar-2, 10:00 am
    obleak

    jxeeno writes...

    that's been an issue for some time.

    Yes, 9 months at least. Will it get fixed now that it's part of finder?

  • 2016-Mar-2, 10:07 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    obleak writes...

    Yes, 9 months at least. Will it get fixed now that it's part of finder?

    The active status flag, yes � working on a fix now :)

    However, I haven't been able to track ADA-by-ADA activations since mid-2014 due to a change in the way NBN activates its areas... so it won't be possible to fill in blanks for the "active date".

  • 2016-Mar-2, 10:07 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    denmark555 writes...

    I noticed some of the FTTN SAMs are showing up as Brownfields FTTP with 0 premises

    Cheers, that's also on the to-do list. Some data got corrupted during import last month :(

  • 2016-Mar-2, 10:08 am
    MATT

    Anyone know how long it takes to go from Service switched on in mynbn to being able to apply for a service. NBNco says its still under construction, but myNBN says its switched on? Rang Telstra and they said still no available...

    MATT

  • 2016-Mar-2, 10:08 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    MATT writes...

    but myNBN says its switched on? Rang Telstra and they said still no available...

    Hey MATT,

    Did you get an email notification from myNBN to say that your address is live? If so, you can try checking on Telstra's website as they check with NBN live as well.

    NBN's online maps only update once every week or so.

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Mar-3, 8:16 am
    MATT

    Ok, May be Im getting a bit excited... Have been on slow ADSL for so long and fixed Wireless is about to be available.

    My area Biloela, has been under-construction and Local Telstra store posted online to come in for a deal. However the area I am in was not turned on. But I see that it was today.

    I haven't received an email as yet.

    MATT

  • 2016-Mar-3, 8:16 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    clicknetoz writes...

    Are you going to re introduce the satellite image option?

    The satellite option should be back for the desktop version. Thanks for everyone's patience :)

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:03 pm
    Grimley

    MATT writes...

    Ok, May be Im getting a bit excited... Have been on slow ADSL for so long and fixed Wireless is about to be available.

    My area Biloela, has been under-construction and Local Telstra store posted online to come in for a deal. However the area I am in was not turned on. But I see that it was today.

    Hey MATT,

    Do you live in Biloela or on a property outside of town? I'm also in Biloela, and have been watching it like a hawk to see when fixed wireless goes live. I live on the outskirts of town, but NBN maps class my address as "in town" and part of the 3 year fibre rollout, hence making me not eligible for fixed wireless.

    On the myNBN rollout map I'm inside the town boundaries, not in the fixed wireless coverage zone. Skymesh told me today they can't do anything for me :(

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/nbn-app/rollout/4BIL-51-03-BILO

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:03 pm
    clicknetoz

    jxeeno writes...

    The satellite option should be back for the desktop version.
    Excellent ...thanks :-)

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:29 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    Jxeeno there seems to be a "bug" on the map pages

    When you have the pop-up box for an address and close it via clicking on the "x" in the top right corner of the box, the underlying browser window treat that as a new location to drop a pin and show data

    this would be generating more querries through the database than other wise would be needed, even for those of us curious about a region

    also why in the 2WOY FTTN area every premises I select is still showing as
    Not (yet) serviceable
    "Service Class 10" location is planned to be serviceable by copper

    yet the area is all now RFS

    shouldn't they be showing
    "service class 12" the location is serviceable by copper, jumpering is required

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:29 pm
    MATT

    Grimley writes...

    Do you live in Biloela or on a property outside of town? I'm also in Biloela, and have been watching it like a hawk to see when fixed wireless goes live. I live on the outskirts of town, but NBN maps class my address as "in town" and part of the 3 year fibre rollout, hence making me not eligible for fixed wireless.

    On the myNBN rollout map I'm inside the town boundaries, not in the fixed wireless coverage zone. Skymesh told me today they can't do anything for me :(

    I'm just on the outskirts, so fall in the Wifi Zone. But i can see I will have great trouble as on NBNCo Website doesnt allow a look up of my address. Nor does Mynbn but following the map I get an address. Registered with Mynbn and got an update.

    But any of the do you qualify websites , show me still as ADSL only.... Will make some calls next week.

    MATT

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:38 pm
    Roofwalker
    this post was edited

    MATT writes...

    I'm just on the outskirts,

    Hi MATT,

    If you can clearly see the tower and you are not marked out for some other means of NBN service delivery then you should have a good chance of getting onto fixed wireless.

    For Biloela, the relevant Retail Service Providers (RSPs) are listed in the right hand scoll box at http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/4BIL-51-03-BILO

    The broad experience of those posting to {edit this the fixed wireless} thread clearly indicates that the best way to get action is to initially select a fixed wireless plan from your chosen RSP. A good RSP will be able to tell you if you are on the fixed wireless zone map. Even if not on the map but they think you have a good chance of being connected then they should be able to get you assigned with a property allocation no. from NBN to get you connected.

    I suggest you contact your chosen RSP and explain your situation clearly and indicate to them that you want to connect to NBN on a particular plan that they offer.

    Possibly someone can recommend a particular RSP for your area?
    ....................................

    Note: Very large companies like Telstra, Optus & Vodafone tend to be monolithic and can be somewhat inflexible in their approach to customers. Smaller companies like Aussie Broadband or Skymesh highly recomended on this thread, are very customer friendly, and can help you get onto the map & connected. Unfortunately neither of those companies is on your available RSP list.

    EDIT: The tower seems not to be live yet & you may be jumping the gun a bit early because RSPs won't necessarily have all the relevant information � it might be better to wait till the tower is officially live. Presumably (if all goes to the NBN schedule � it may not) then that will be later this month.

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:38 pm
    MATT

    Roofwalker writes...

    EDIT: The tower seems not to be live yet & you may be jumping the gun a bit early because RSPs won't necessarily have all the relevant information � it might be better to wait till the tower is officially live. Presumably (if all goes to the NBN schedule � it may not) then that will be later this month.

    I was thinking the same thing..

    Note: Very large companies like Telstra, Optus & Vodafone tend to be monolithic and can be somewhat inflexible in their approach to customers. Smaller companies like Aussie Broadband or Skymesh highly recomended on this thread, are very customer friendly, and can help you get onto the map & connected. Unfortunately neither of those companies is on your available RSP list.

    I had to contact Telstra cause my home phone is a crackling mess. After I lodged a repair request, I asked to be put through to a NBN person at Telstra. Explained to the guy all the info about only just going live ect. He said he would look into it. He got back to me 5 minutes later with "is available has just gone live". Then the Drama started about the address. This is all expected, as the council changed lot numbers to street address and that has cocked everything... Short version, they submitted an application to whomever (NBNco) and they will be in contact sometime in the next week.. Fingers crossed.

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:53 pm
    Roofwalker

    MATT writes...

    I had to contact Telstra

    We all have our Telstra stories :-( My story is a saga way too lo.........ng to write up and post anywhere.

    We are a bit off topic � for fixed wireless issues it's probably best to post on the fixed wireless thread /forum-replies.cfm?t=2478248. I hope the moderators don't think I'm cross posting (just trying to keep topics largely uncontaminated).

  • 2016-Mar-3, 4:53 pm
    TH

    Is it just me, or are all the filter and sort options for the rollout regions now busted?

    (The URL changes, but the view stays the same.)

  • 2016-Mar-5, 9:13 am
    dJOS

    jxeeno writes...

    Today, I have some very exciting news to share. First, that myNBN.info is now part of the finder.com.au family. And with that, I also step into the role of Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au.

    Congrats Kenneth, i'd skipped a few pages and had missed this announcement. :P

  • 2016-Mar-5, 9:13 am
    Dirichlet

    TH writes...

    Is it just me, or are all the filter and sort options for the rollout regions now busted?

    Same here on both Chrome and Firefox.

  • duun

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/poi/list/undefined/state/SA

    poi tracker seems to only show nsw regardless of which state is selected (using chrome)

  • jxeeno
    O.P.

    TH writes...

    Is it just me, or are all the filter and sort options for the rollout regions now busted?

    Ah yes, sorry about that. I'm fixing it as we speak. Looks like a change we pushed out last weekend broke it.

    For now, you can still filter if you remove the "/undefined" part of the URL � e.g. http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/poi/list/state/SA (rather than /nbn-tracker/poi/list/undefined/state/SA).

  • 2016-Mar-5, 12:11 pm
    TH

    jxeeno writes...

    I'm fixing it as we speak.

    Cheers.

    Also, are you still posting the NBN Rollout Update Summary (monthly) somewhere? I haven't seen it in a couple of months. (I miss it! :-P )

    Thanks for all the hard work!

  • 2016-Mar-5, 12:11 pm
    duun

    I've just looked up an address of interest on myNBN.info in the recently started brownfields area of 5GPC Gepps Cross SA (whrl.pl/Rezw2K)

    Although the address received a letter, the address is not shown on the map as in progress yet. Is there a bit of lag between myNBN updates at present?

  • 2016-Mar-5, 12:34 pm
    NetskyAU

    duun writes...

    Is there a bit of lag between myNBN updates at present?

    It is possible that the address of interest is not in the current plans but may of received a notice about construction but is very close to the area getting built and is an error.

  • 2016-Mar-5, 12:34 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    duun writes...

    I've just looked up an address of interest on myNBN.info in the recently started brownfields area of 5GPC Gepps Cross SA (whrl.pl/Rezw2K)

    Although the address received a letter, the address is not shown on the map as in progress yet. Is there a bit of lag between myNBN updates at present?

    Hi Dunn, this is a product of the way NBN provides updates to the public. At the middle of each month (around the 10th working day), NBN will publicly announce a new batch of areas they commenced work in the previous month.

    The upcoming area announcement, expected some time next week, will add areas where build or build preparation had commenced in the month of February.

    Because of this, it's possible that the 5GPC area will not be publicly announced by NBN until mid-April.

    I hope that makes sense!

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Mar-9, 8:55 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    TH writes...

    Also, are you still posting the NBN Rollout Update Summary (monthly) somewhere? I haven't seen it in a couple of months. (I miss it! :-P )

    It's been quite hard to do them in recent months because of the way NBN formats their data. I will *try* my best to do it this coming month � but I can't guarantee it... sorry :(

  • 2016-Mar-9, 8:55 am
    duun

    jxeeno writes...

    I hope that makes sense!

    Yep! Thanks

  • 2016-Mar-29, 9:19 pm
    TheGruff

    Hi jxeeno,

    I don't like what has been done with mynbn.info once moved to finder.com.au
    The Available Plans tab on the Rollout ID page http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/2BTH-51-06-GLAM is so misleading. It doesn't list all of the RSP's that are found on the Details tab, only 42 plans from from a total of 77 Providers
    Is it listing only paid advertisers? If so, you should mention that.

  • 2016-Mar-29, 9:19 pm
    cuzcraig

    TheGruff writes...

    I don't like what has been done with mynbn.info once moved to finder.com.au

    Ever since it got "moved?" To finder.com.au it hasn't been updated properly, at the moment whole of 6CAN rfs is out dated. Still showing old rfs dates even though Telstra wholesale has released an updated expected rfs spreadsheet.

  • 2016-Mar-29, 10:38 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    TheGruff writes...

    I don't like what has been done with mynbn.info once moved to finder.com.au
    The Available Plans tab on the Rollout ID page http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/2BTH-51-06-GLAM is so misleading.

    Hey TheGruff,

    Thanks for the feedback. It's always been our intention to get all provider plans onto the plan tables and I'm working hard to get plans from all 200 or so providers listed as soon as possible (it takes a long time, unfortunately).

    Even now, we list a fair few providers we don't deal with directly... but those who deal with us will likely get listed first as most are happy to provide us accessible pricing and details of their plans.

    However, do I see where you're coming from and I'll also see what we can do to address this in the interim.

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Mar-29, 10:38 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    cuzcraig writes...

    Ever since it got "moved?" To finder.com.au it hasn't been updated properly, at the moment whole of 6CAN rfs is out dated. Still showing old rfs dates even though Telstra wholesale has released an updated expected rfs spreadsheet.

    Hi cuzcraig,

    I still update the site as it has always been done on an ongoing basis. Nothing has changed in that regard :)

    For a bit of background, the site has never relied on the Telstra Wholesale document for dates as I've found them to be inaccurate on occasions.

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Apr-3, 6:56 pm
    PeteP

    jxeeno writes...

    I still update the site as it has always been done on an ongoing basis. Nothing has changed in that regard :)

    Hi jxeeno,

    What do you make of:
    whrl.pl/ReAxRa

    And my posts in reponse in that thread and also:
    whrl.pl/ReAz06

    I notice the 5 areas 6APP-60 to 6APP-64 correspond to the 5 6APP-XX you have in mynbn for the HFC builds, and the others listed there (at least for WA) also seem to match.

    For a bit of background, the site has never relied on the Telstra Wholesale document for dates as I've found them to be inaccurate on occasions.

    Inaccurate but more timely since the above was all sourced from:
    http://telstrawholesale.com.au/download/document/rollout-list.xlsx
    Don't forget that Telstra are pretty much calling the shots now for the NBN MTM (esp HFC and most of FTTN) so their information is probably what NBN themselves use when they update their maps!

  • 2016-Apr-3, 6:56 pm
    Gamer82

    @jxeeno

    I suppose we won't be seeing the "updated" 3 year rollout plan any soon or not ?

  • 2016-Apr-3, 6:58 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    PeteP writes...

    What do you make of:
    whrl.pl/ReAxRa

    And my posts in reponse in that thread and also:
    whrl.pl/ReAz06

    I've been asking around :) I'll reply when I find out more on, on the progress thread.

    Don't forget that Telstra are pretty much calling the shots now for the NBN MTM (esp HFC and most of FTTN) so their information is probably what NBN themselves use when they update their maps!

    Perhaps, but nbn still schedules the rollout :) What I said still remains � I've never really been comfortable with the Telstra data, and probably won't use it unless it's a last resort.

    Gamer82 writes...

    I suppose we won't be seeing the "updated" 3 year rollout plan any soon or not ?

    Well, look... I hope so. Considering their it's been half a year since their last quarterly update, I think it's probably time for an update or they risk some pretty unhappy campers.

  • 2016-Apr-3, 6:58 pm
    cuzcraig

    jxeeno writes...

    Hi cuzcraig,

    I still update the site as it has always been done on an ongoing basis. Nothing has changed in that regard :)

    For a bit of background, the site has never relied on the Telstra Wholesale document for dates as I've found them to be inaccurate on occasions.

    Cheers,
    jx

    Thanks for the update jxeeno

  • 2016-Apr-3, 8:08 pm
    Tunnah

    Hey jxeeno,

    Have you seen the leaked NBNCo doc https://www.dropbox.com/s/4p95bxq90255gxs/IDP.xlsx?dl=0 (source � http://www.afr.com/technology/web/nbn/fresh-nbn-leaks-showing-fttn-delays-raise-broadband-policy-questions-20160331-gnv0uz ) . I dunno if this helps and i'm sure you've already seen it but may help.

  • 2016-Apr-3, 8:08 pm
    Tunnah

    Hey jxeeno,

    Can i get you to have a look at 4Ath ? We are currently in build but on the Map/Actual is listing as Preparation.

    Cheers,
    Leon

  • 2016-Apr-3, 8:15 pm
    awoff1

    myNBN spotted on 7.30 a couple nights ago. From ABC website here 0:20-0:30.

  • 2016-Apr-3, 8:15 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Tunnah writes...

    Can i get you to have a look at 4Ath ? We are currently in build but on the Map/Actual is listing as Preparation.

    Thanks for flagging that, Tunnah.

    I just did a bulk update, and 4ATH-01 and 4ATH-02 are now listed correctly as "build commenced".

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Apr-3, 9:19 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    awoff1 writes...

    myNBN spotted on 7.30 a couple nights ago. From ABC website here 0:20-0:30.

    We certainly don't mind the promotion ;) Thanks ABC and Warren Truss!

  • 2016-Apr-3, 9:19 pm
    error-id10t

    My area is "unknown" at the moment, are there updates happening? It has turned green from the usual 3 year cycle but all details have disappeared..

  • 2016-Apr-3, 11:06 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    error-id10t writes...

    My area is "unknown" at the moment, are there updates happening? It has turned green from the usual 3 year cycle but all details have disappeared..

    Hmm, I don't believe I've made any changes recently that would affect this. Could you whim me your address/area? I'll look into it.

  • 2016-Apr-3, 11:06 pm
    error-id10t

    It's really odd, still failing when I look at my address or any near myself.

    But then if I look at my SA it shows it's now in preparation and I'm getting fttn so there's been an update thankfully :)

  • 2016-Apr-5, 8:20 am
    veerpartap
    this post was edited

    I am in 6ARM-03 service area...obviously I am in 3 year plan. But on the map it says not information available....
    "No rollout plan yet The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced"

    it must have changed recently as it was showing my address as in 3 yr plan a week before...any bugs???or updating??

  • 2016-Apr-5, 8:20 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    veerpartap writes...

    it must have changed recently as it was showing my address as in 3 yr plan a week before...any bugs???or updating??

    Ahh, indeed. I don't remember anything to do with the three year plan being changed recently, but I'll take a look to see what the issue is. Thanks for flagging.

  • 2016-Apr-7, 11:23 am
    Michal

    6CAN-4:

    Oh no, there appears to be an error. This was the error message:
    myNBN does not know how to handle this request

    It is for a while like this. The RFS is tomorrow, 15.04.2016.

    And jxeeno, thanks for your hard work on myNBN site!

  • 2016-Apr-7, 11:23 am
    cuzcraig

    Michal writes...

    6CAN-4:

    Oh no, there appears to be an error. This was the error message:
    myNBN does not know how to handle this request

    Works for me Michal?

  • 2016-Apr-14, 1:27 pm
    Michal

    It does not for me after I punch my address. Tried from home and work.
    Maybe specific to my address...

  • 2016-Apr-14, 1:27 pm
    AirJordanFan93

    Hi

    I have a question regarding my address not showing up on either the mynbn map or NBNco map. I am scheduled to get the NBN in the coming months with construction meant to start from now and August of this year. Despite this my address still won't show up with any info about the rollout process. I am slated to get HFC and not FTTN or FTTP so I don't know if that is a factor or not.

  • 2016-Apr-15, 9:30 pm
    Gamer82

    Same problem here

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/6MRG-01
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/6MRG-20

    Both are now finally in build prep which started last month ago :)

    Be interesting to see how many nodes will be deployed around the town

    Typed in my street name and now get that message below, didn't last week ?

    "No rollout plan yet The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced"

    Rollout type
    Unknown

    Tried all other streets within that town i live in and all came up with the same message.

    Augusta,Cowaramup,Gracetown all do the same as well ?

    Those 3 towns are also in build prep as well.

    However when i checked out Busselton which is now build mode it comes up with the details on SAM, SA and Premises when you enter a random address in the brown colured area

    It seems when a town in the 3 year plan finally has the build prep started then all of sudden you get that no rollout plan yet message ?

  • 2016-Apr-15, 9:30 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    Hi Ken,

    Are GPS coords meant to work in finder? http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map

    And nbn maps? http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html

    example

    -22.788608, 142.952042 or
    22�47'19.0"S 142�57'07.3"E

    which works fine in Google maps etc, but not in either of the above?

  • 2016-Apr-15, 10:46 pm
    kasi

    Some FTTN areas of Central Coast that are RFS (e.g. 2WOY SAMs, 2TGL-02) under Fixed Line Rollouts>Current Brownfields tab are now described as "Brownfields FTTP" and also have the little fibre logo. Why is this?

  • 2016-Apr-15, 10:46 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    kasi writes...

    Some FTTN areas of Central Coast that are RFS (e.g. 2WOY SAMs, 2TGL-02) under Fixed Line Rollouts>Current Brownfields tab are now described as "Brownfields FTTP" and also have the little fibre logo. Why is this?

    maybe nbn� have renamed the node to "premises" so they can say they are now rolling out a FTTP network

    </joke>

  • 2016-Apr-19, 6:52 pm
    Swift1 Only By Fibre

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    maybe nbn� have renamed the node to "premises" so they can say they are now rolling out a FTTP network

    </joke

    Carfull don't give them ideas to screw us over with.

  • 2016-Apr-19, 6:52 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    kasi writes...

    Some FTTN areas of Central Coast that are RFS (e.g. 2WOY SAMs, 2TGL-02) under Fixed Line Rollouts>Current Brownfields tab are now described as "Brownfields FTTP" and also have the little fibre logo. Why is this?

    Ahh, this is an error of my doing. Thanks for flagging, correcting it as I speak :)

  • 2016-Apr-21, 6:40 pm
    veerpartap

    jxeeno writes...

    Ahh, indeed. I don't remember anything to do with the three year plan being changed recently, but I'll take a look to see what the issue is. Thanks for flagging.

    Still having the same issue at 6ARM-3 jxeeno

  • 2016-Apr-21, 6:40 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    veerpartap writes...

    Still having the same issue at 6ARM-3 jxeeno

    Hey veerpartap,

    6ARM-03 is listed as Technology Type: Fibre to the Node for me. Is that what you were talking about, or something else?

    Cheers

  • 2016-Apr-21, 9:52 pm
    exinterlinkuser

    jxeeno � I know that you don't have the time, but it would be great if you could give the Department of Communications some pointers on how to present in map and statistical form the Mass Service Disruption (MSD) declarations issued by Telstra and other carriers.

    The Deparment claims that they "monitor" them but would I'd like to see is analysis of what percentages of customers are affected by MSD's and for how long, and start to get an idea if the extent of the declarations have been unfair, which the TIO claims to be incapable of investigating.

  • 2016-Apr-21, 9:52 pm
    Neal Beattie

    veerpartap writes...

    Still having the same issue at 6ARM-3 jxeeno

    Same, Q2 2016 is the actually build date and it said it up until 2-3 weeks ago on mynbn.info. I can see work going on around this area and mynbn.info worked fine for the last few years. This area now only gives

    No rollout plan yet
    The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced
    Rollout type
    Unknown

  • 2016-Apr-21, 10:01 pm
    kasi

    jxeeno writes...

    Ahh, this is an error of my doing. Thanks for flagging, correcting it as I speak :)

    Thank you, saves me wondering if it was more "increased transparency" from nbn.

  • 2016-Apr-21, 10:01 pm
    Neal Beattie

    Just further on this, my area is listed elsewhere on the site under "build preparation" so I'm not sure what's going on

  • 2016-Apr-21, 10:50 pm
    SJW

    Wondering if someone is able to explain something to me.

    I live in an apartment building in Zetland. When I search for my address it comes up with a little pop up advising "We found a few close matches...Did you mean?" and it lists the apartments on the ground and first floor but none of the rest of the other 10 floors in the building.

    I was thinking that the database just hasn't been updated because our building was newish and as there is a lot of construction going on around us it would get updated later. But 3 other buildings beside us have since gone up and have now gone active in Feb but we still have nothing and still can't find my address correctly. Our building was completed in Aug 2014 which is when we moved in.

    Would this be to do with the Body Corp not approving for the NBN to be installed in our building or would it be something else? The other 3 buildings that are newer plus ours where all built by Meriton, but I believe that only our building is managed solely by Meriton where as the other buildings aren't.

    Any insight would be appreciated.
    Thanks

  • 2016-Apr-21, 10:50 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    SJW writes...

    Wondering if someone is able to explain something to me.

    I live in an apartment building in Zetland. When I search for my address it comes up with a little pop up advising "We found a few close matches...Did you mean?" and it lists the apartments on the ground and first floor but none of the rest of the other 10 floors in the building.

    I think it is just a coding/display issue.
    The "pop up" box would be limited in size to say 10 actual answers, all the rest would not show, even though they are there.
    If you enter your exact address does it accept it?
    you could maybe click on one of the ones it shows, then edit it after the page loads

  • 2016-Apr-21, 11:27 pm
    SJW

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    If you enter your exact address does it accept it?

    It show's up when I enter my exact address or just the street number.

  • 2016-Apr-21, 11:27 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    SJW writes...

    It show's up when I enter my exact address or just the street number.

    no scroll bar so you can scroll down a list in the "pop up"
    only option might to be to see if you can order a servcie if the building is listed as active, which some are.
    no idea otherwise sorry

  • 2016-Apr-22, 3:43 am
    SJW

    No there is no scroll bar :(

    I suspect our building is not currently active or even to be done soon. Our entrance is on a different street to one of the other buildings that is active and is attached to us (we both enter the carpark through the same entrance) but that doesn't necessarily mean anything I guess.

    It's not that I have horrible internet access as I do have VDSL/FTTB on a 50/20 plan but am only able to get it through 1 RSP, but their plans aren't the best and customer service is absolute crap.

    I'll just have to wait and see what happens I guess.

  • 2016-Apr-23, 12:10 am
    veerpartap

    Neal Beattie writes...

    Same, Q2 2016 is the actually build date and it said it up until 2-3 weeks ago on mynbn.info. I can see work going on around this area and mynbn.info worked fine for the last few years. This area now only gives

    yupp ditto

  • 2016-Apr-23, 12:10 am
    Lentilsoup

    Yup ditto, nbnco websites not recommended, STRONGLY recommend finder website a better choice for internet usage.

  • 2016-Apr-24, 2:43 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Hey all,

    Regarding the three year plan issue � I'm working on it. For those interested in the more technical detail:

    The key problem is that nbn is no displaying new areas going into Build Preparation on its rollout map. So, the 3 year plan message is no longer showing up for areas that have gone into "build preparation" but not into "build commenced" stage.

    As to why I don't simply show the Build Preparation message: we can't be sure which rollout region (or SAM) a particular address is part of until nbn adds the area to the map. Even though your suburb is listed in a particular build prep SAM's footprint, it doesn't mean that the entire suburb is covered.

    Hope that makes sense.

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Apr-24, 2:43 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Are GPS coords meant to work in finder? http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map

    Unfortunately, Google Maps's API handles the address autocomplete which means it's hard (but not impossible) to add extra logic to deal with manually entered coordinates. I'll see what we can do about it though :)

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:21 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    SJW writes...

    ground and first floor but none of the rest of the other 10 floors in the building.

    Yes, so it's a limitation on how many addresses can be returned. Have you tried entering your unit number as part of the address? Something like:

    [Unit]/[Road Number] [Road Name] [Road Name Type], Suburb

    345/1 John St, Zetland

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:21 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    jxeeno writes...

    I'll see what we can do about it though :)

    Thanks Ken,

    It would certainly help some of those who have difficulty accurately identifying where they live for nbn service. :)

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:26 pm
    Matex

    Typically how long after the expected RFS date (which is today where I am) is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:26 pm
    NetskyAU

    Matex writes...

    is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?

    Nbn's map only updates activations once a week. MyNBNs map should update within a few hours and RSP's should be instant or a few hours as well.

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:28 pm
    sardonicus

    Jxeeno, you might want to hold off declaring MTE-03 as service class 1 for the moment. Vans outside my house. Workers have opened up my pit and are stringing black fibre[?] from it. All this despite having had the outside box checked on Saturday.

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:28 pm
    Matex

    NetskyAU writes...

    Nbn's map only updates activations once a week. MyNBNs map should update within a few hours and RSP's should be instant or a few hours as well.

    Interesting. Telstra, TPG and Optus are saying it's not ready and MyNBN/Finder still says build but it was meant to be RFS today.

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:31 pm
    NetskyAU

    Not even half way through the day, yet. Keep an eye on MyNBNs map or if you have subscribed you should get an email. Possible it will go RFS later or tomorrow if there's no delays.

  • 2016-Apr-24, 12:31 pm
    Matex

    NetskyAU writes...

    Not even half way through the day, yet. Keep an eye on MyNBNs map or if you have subscribed you should get an email. Possible it will go RFS later or tomorrow if there's no delays.

    Just super keen is all :) Had delay after delay, was meant to be November last year, then Feb this year and I have fears it'll happen again. Anxious to get off my rubbish ADSL.

  • 2016-Apr-27, 10:13 am
    Jason:M

    Matex writes...

    Typically how long after the expected RFS date (which is today where I am) is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?

    You should not rely on any ISP website to be "up to the minute" with NBNco due to a number of factors.

    ISPs should be willing to take your address and identifier, even if their own systems say its not yet RFS, because the only thing preventing them proceeding is if the NBN portal/B2B allows ordering on your "location id". RFS means it is ready in the NBN Systems � and providers should take into account information asymmetry in their sales processes.

    It is certainly the way we approach it � call us and if your area is not in our systems and you have info to suggest it should be active, we add it and let you proceed.

    Jason

  • 2016-Apr-27, 10:13 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    sardonicus writes...

    Jxeeno, you might want to hold off declaring MTE-03 as service class 1 for the moment. Vans outside my house. Workers have opened up my pit and are stringing black fibre[?] from it. All this despite having had the outside box checked on Saturday.

    Unfortunately, we don't get a say! When NBN switches on an area and declares it ready for service, that's the official word.

    Even after an area goes "Ready for Service", works may continue to happen. There are set thresholds that NBN meets in terms of % of premises connected with a PCD (box at the side of the house)... once they've met it � they will declare RFS.

    Having said that, service class 1 simply means a there's a multiport in the pit near your house. From what you're saying, I that that accurately reflects the status of your address :)

  • 2016-Apr-27, 11:21 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Matex writes...

    Typically how long after the expected RFS date (which is today where I am) is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?

    As others have said, NBN is updated on a weekly basis. We're updated on a 3-hourly basis. RSP websites vary depending on what technology they use (sometimes they plug straight into NBN, other times they are delayed by a few weeks).

    I'm noticing a few issues with areas now being displayed as being "live" instantly even if I flag it on the site. I believe it's to do with the caching � I'm investigating this and will get back to you on it.

    I can say that 9QBN-07 has gone live, but no word yet on 9QBN-05 (at least on my end).

  • 2016-Apr-27, 11:21 am
    Daniel:)

    Hey jex, do you have any info on Lakelands, WA 6180? apparently that area is suppose to get fixed wireless.

  • 2016-Apr-27, 11:26 am
    umop-3p|sdn

    jxeeno writes...

    I can say that 9QBN-07 has gone live, but no word yet on 9QBN-05 (at least on my end).

    Of course 07 is live.... I live on the street that divides 05 & 07, but my address comes up as 05...... Hopefully it's RFS soon!

    Thanks for the input jxeeno!

  • 2016-Apr-27, 11:26 am
    Matex

    umop-3p|sdn writes...

    Of course 07 is live.... I live on the street that divides 05 & 07, but my address comes up as 05...... Hopefully it's RFS soon!

    They started build in -07 way after -05 too, and it's a larger area. Wonder what's gone wrong in -05.

  • 2016-Apr-27, 11:35 am
    AirJordanFan93

    The installation is going on for me in WA in the 6164 Postcode or 6JTS rollout area. Figured I would let you know since none of the rollout maps have indicated any sort of update on the rollout here. This would be part of the HFC rollout as well.

  • 2016-Apr-27, 11:35 am
    Buddha3211

    AirJordanFan93 writes...

    This would be part of the HFC rollout as well.

    What works are happening in your area? On the Telstra Wholesale rollout list the following RFS dates are included.

    6JTS-60 JANDAKOT WA 01-Mar-2017
    6JTS-61 JANDAKOT WA 01-Mar-2017

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:05 am
    AirJordanFan93

    Junak writes...

    What works are happening in your area? On the Telstra Wholesale rollout list the following RFS dates are included.

    They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house. I have been going by the MyNBN site and my suburb (Yangebup) was one of 3 suburbs getting HFC in the region whilst the rest are getting FTTN. Going by MyNBN again the HFC rollout has been slated for Construction in H1 2016 and then RFS in H2 2016. The FTTN rollout isn't meant to begin until 2017 and last until 2018 in some cases.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:05 am
    PeteP

    AirJordanFan93 writes...

    They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house

    Can I assume you did not previously have Telstra/Foxtel cable? I ask since those of us with cable service may not see any installation during this stage. And I am in 6APP-6X SAM also slated for HFC RFS by 01-Mar-2017 and supposedly first Build commencing in H1 2016. The only activity I have seen / heard about in Winthrop are Telstra contractors inspecting the pits and ducts (for the third time in as many years!).

    They will be in for a real treat since I am of the view very few houses along my HFC loop have cable lead-ins (my house didn't when I moved in 2009, and I see houses with Foxtel dishes rather than cable around my area).

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:20 am
    AirJordanFan93

    PeteP writes...

    Can I assume you did not previously have Telstra/Foxtel cable? I ask since those of us with cable service may not see any installation during this stage

    Correct I don't have Telstra/Foxtel cable.

    Telstra contractors inspecting the pits and ducts

    I have a Telstra pit right at the front of my house and not once have I seen anyone come and inspect it. I have seen other Telstra pits inspected in the area of the last 2 weeks though. But never the one at the front of my house.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:20 am
    Buddha3211

    AirJordanFan93 writes...

    They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house.

    Interesting since your area hasn't gone to "Build Commenced" in the last update, only a couple of HFC areas in 6JDL were included in the April update for WA. Will be interesting to see an updated RFS for 6JDS and 6APP HFC areas.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:23 am
    AirJordanFan93

    Junak writes...

    Interesting since your area hasn't gone to "Build Commenced" in the last update, only a couple of HFC areas in 6JDL were included in the April update for WA. Will be interesting to see an updated RFS for 6JDS and 6APP HFC areas.

    I did get the letter from NBN like 6-7 weeks back informing that the build would be coming between April-August. NBNCo has never provided information on this area at all and I have been checking both NBNCo and MyNBN since the start of 2013. It wasn't until recently that I delved deeper into MyNBN and found more detailed information regarding the rollout for 6JTS and that I would be getting HFC sometime this year.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:23 am
    thebookfreak58

    Photos of HFC install?

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:38 am
    paulvk

    It may even be fiber as they are stringing it on the poles now.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:38 am
    SJW

    jxeeno writes...

    Yes, so it's a limitation on how many addresses can be returned. Have you tried entering your unit number as part of the address? Something like:

    [Unit]/[Road Number] [Road Name] [Road Name Type], Suburb

    345/1 John St, Zetland

    Hi jxeeno

    Yes that's what I get after I have put in my full address. I've also noticed that the building it thinks we are in, according to the map, doesn't actually exist ... there is no building there it's actually a little park in between all the buildings and our building is not numbered, but I think that's got something to do with the map itself.

    As I mentioned I guess I'll just have to wait until something happens, just thought it was strange that every other building around us (front, back and sides and also buildings that are connected to us as part of the same construction) have all gone active but we haven't even gone into build prep according to the maps.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:46 am
    eamn yidspla

    Hi Jxeeno, what does the following mean for an ADA?

    3CRB-01-21 Active mixed c. 22 Jul 2016 210 2 (None) 1 (None) (this says 2 connections are already active) and its mixed

    Does this mean someone has opted for FOD?

    I noticed it on another ADA also

  • 2016-Apr-28, 11:46 am
    sardonicus

    jxeeno writes...

    Having said that, service class 1 simply means a there's a multiport in the pit near your house. From what you're saying, I that that accurately reflects the status of your address :)

    Yes. I've phoned nBN cO. I am class 1 now for sure. So now I will proceed to get the inside box.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 12:27 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Daniel:) writes...

    Hey jex, do you have any info on Lakelands, WA 6180? apparently that area is suppose to get fixed wireless.

    Sorry, I don't have any extra information :( You're right in saying that it's scheduled for Fixed Wireless though. Other than that, it's a case of wait and see unfortunately.

    AirJordanFan93 writes...

    Figured I would let you know since none of the rollout maps have indicated any sort of update on the rollout here. This would be part of the HFC rollout as well.

    Yeah, I'm noticing some discrepancies too with the data that nbn� is providing (on their map) and what's happening on the ground. As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.

    So I, and all of Australia, are at the mercy of nbn� providing accurate information :/

  • 2016-Apr-28, 12:27 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    jxeeno writes...

    So I, and all of Australia, are at the mercy of nbn� providing accurate information :/

    how hard can it be?
    They seem to have become "bunkered down"
    But in their efforts to hide information and even disputing what people have seen happening on the ground makes nbn� seem like they have something nasty lurking that might pop out at any time and they or their political masters do not want this information made public.
    Great for a GBE

    What will be next, sorry we can't tell you if your area is RFS as that is commercial and in confidence between us and our RSP customers

  • 2016-Apr-28, 12:30 pm
    Painkiller

    I try to find the reason for removal of those 22 FSA last year for almost 1 year because I am in one of them, now finally got it....

    http://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/Committees/ec_ctte/estimates/bud_1516/communications/q127.pdf

  • 2016-Apr-28, 12:30 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    Painkiller writes...

    I try to find the reason for removal of those 22 FSA last year for almost 1 year because I am in one of them, now finally got it....

    so it would seem that where nbn� now use the term FTTx (like they use in the linked document) it means anything other than FTTP, but we don't know what it is, but whatever it is it IS cheaper than FTTP because we said so

  • 2016-Apr-28, 1:18 pm
    Gamer82

    jxeeno writes...

    they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.

    Yeah but when you happen to see actual "Build Prep" work going on, people aren't fooled as the nbn blokes here in my town did display the NBN sign hanging off the yellow barriers when they were in the telstra pits and manhole one's for the rodding and roping phase.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 1:18 pm
    error-id10t

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    so it would seem that where nbn� now use the term FTTx

    I thought this just meant FTTN but they didn't want to outright say it.

    I still don't get anything when I enter my address on the site, but when I use 2BER it shows we've been in "preparation" since Aug 2015. How long can it take!

  • 2016-Apr-28, 2:55 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    error-id10t writes...

    I thought this just meant FTTN but they didn't want to outright say it.

    I think you are right, but it just makes you shake your head and wonder why they are "denying" it.
    Then you get the areas that were going to get FTTP but now they are HFC/FTTX, they stopped FTTP to stop "overbuild" but they are quite happy to "overbuild" with FTTx in parts of the area

    x = anything but P

  • 2016-Apr-28, 2:55 pm
    Painkiller
    this post was edited

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    Then you get the areas that were going to get FTTP but now they are HFC/FTTX

    Even worse. My home suppose get FTTP before they remove it. Now half of my suburb(2 street away) get FTTP, I got nothing, not even in 3 year plan.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 4:33 pm
    AirJordanFan93

    jxeeno writes...

    Yeah, I'm noticing some discrepancies too with the data that nbn� is providing (on their map) and what's happening on the ground. As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.

    I guess this explains why I have never seen any sort of updates for my area even after I got the letter from NBNco back in February. I am interested to see if my region is included in the update rollout list next week though.

  • 2016-Apr-28, 4:33 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    AirJordanFan93 writes...

    I am interested to see if my region is included in the update rollout list next week though.

    Next week? I think you're a bit too keen :)

    New areas usually get added mid-month (around the 10th business day rounded to the nearest convenient day for nbn). Let's see what happens :)

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:23 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    SJW writes...

    Yes that's what I get after I have put in my full address. I've also noticed that the building it thinks we are in, according to the map, doesn't actually exist ... there is no building there it's actually a little park in between all the buildings and our building is not numbered, but I think that's got something to do with the map itself.

    Ah yes, we're using Google Maps to help geocode and standardise the address. Assuming this is a new-ish building, their maps and addresses may take a short while to update.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:23 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Idaf Eioutenz writes...

    Does this mean someone has opted for FOD?

    While it does mean that there is more than one technology in this ADA, in this case, it's because a new development in the ADA got an FTTP connection :)

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:25 am
    SJW

    jxeeno writes...

    Ah yes, we're using Google Maps to help geocode and standardise the address. Assuming this is a new-ish building, their maps and addresses may take a short while to update.

    Yeah it is a newish building ... about 2 years old. The other buildings are even newer next to us that have gone active though so I think it comes down to the body corporate holding off as long as possible.

    We do have VDSL so it's not as if we don't have good internet, it's just we can only get it through one provider and they are more expensive than a lot of the others.

    Anyway the wait continues.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 12:25 am
    clicknetoz

    Looking at MyNBN for Dalwood NSW 2335 it shows rollout areas for Fixed Wireless and the location of the towers.

    When you check OzTowers for the tower details they don't have NBN listed there.

    ACMA has the following:
    NBN Co Site 363 Elderslie Road BRANXTON
    This NBN Fixed Wireless tower is located on ACMA Site 9023315
    Name NBN Co Site 363 Elderslie Road
    Location BRANXTON NSW 2335
    Precision Within 10 meters
    Latitude (GDA94) -32.620862
    Longitude (GDA94) 151.358397
    -32.620862, 151.358397
    Emission Center Frequency 13.059 GHz Bandwidth 28 MHz
    Emission Designator 28M0D7W
    Antenna Parabolic-P, UKY 220 27/DC15, ERICSSON
    Antenna Height (AGL) 37 m

    There is no 2300 frequency range listed

    This is what MyNBN says about that tower:
    Primary Rollout Status (2SIN-51-03-ELDE)
    Status Build Commenced
    Expected Ready For Service 01 Dec 2016 (accurate as at 31 Mar 2016)
    Build Commenced Mar 2016

    So, MyNBN seems to have more up to date information. Where are you getting it from?

  • 2016-Apr-29, 6:57 am
    Jason:M
    this post was edited

    clicknetoz writes...

    So, MyNBN seems to have more up to date information. Where are you getting it from?

    ACMA tower information is available here:
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/register_search.main_page

    Here is the specific tower:
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=9023315

    Cross-reference that to the NBNco coverage information and you can see, without any assignments, that it is the only tower possible to use based on the overlay of the Wireless bounds for 2SIN-51-03-ELDE

    This tower is already used by NBN for backhaul to other towers, so it would make sense to enable it for local reach too.

    I assume jxeeno has run some queries with assumptions to determine this result for the website.

    Edit: That said this site is also close by and has different CPE frequency sets.
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=2000783

    Here is the NBNco 3.5Ghz Assignment, Issued today.
    http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/licence_search.licence_lookup?pSOURCE=HELM&pLICENCE_NO=9997701/1

    Jason

  • 2016-Apr-29, 6:57 am
    NetskyAU

    Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 1:55 pm
    clicknetoz
  • 2016-Apr-29, 1:55 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    NetskyAU writes...

    Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.

    Thanks, fixed :)

  • NetskyAU

    Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.

  • zulu

    NetskyAU writes...

    Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.

    assume finder.com.au you refer to but have been unable to see coloured maps on nbnco site a few times today.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 5:59 pm
    Greg

    NetskyAU writes...

    Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.

    For some reason i couldnt see coloured maps earlier this afternoon momentarily, however a refresh made it reappear.

  • 2016-Apr-29, 5:59 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    It looks like NBN's maps are down as well... so we'll have to wait until they come back live :(

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html

  • 2016-Apr-30, 12:55 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    jxeeno writes...

    It looks like NBN's maps are down as well... so we'll have to wait until they come back live :(

    more transperancy?
    or just a glitch?

  • 2016-Apr-30, 12:55 pm
    JamieA

    Hey jxeeno, any update on Dubbo? Both 2DBB-02 and 2DBB-03 were supposed to go RFS today but looks like it's not going to happen.

  • 2016-Apr-30, 7:31 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    JamieA writes...

    any update on Dubbo? Both 2DBB-02 and 2DBB-03 were supposed to go RFS today

    02 just went live :) caching issue is causing problems which means site still says it's in build.

    I'll clear it once i get home :)

  • 2016-Apr-30, 7:31 pm
    JamieA

    jxeeno writes...

    02 just went live :) caching issue is causing problems which means site still says it's in build.

    I'll clear it once i get home :)

    Legend.

  • 2016-May-4, 1:12 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    more transperancy

    Literally, yes. The map tiles were more transparent than normal because there was no data ;)

    I suspect it was a glitch though.

  • 2016-May-4, 1:12 pm
    Joelly

    jxeeno writes...

    02 just went live :)

    03 too right?

  • 2016-May-4, 1:17 pm
    ADSL2+

    Finder/MyNBN got a plug in the Daily Liberal.

    http://www.dailyliberal.com.au/story/3886317/get-connected-confusion-the-rule-as-nbn-lights-up-dubbo/ (down towards the bottom.)

  • 2016-May-4, 1:17 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Joelly writes...

    03 too right?

    Indeed, shortly after :)

  • 2016-May-6, 7:05 am
    interfreak

    When does your area go RFS? That's your answer.

  • 2016-May-6, 7:05 am
    Cashie

    NetskyAU writes...

    Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.

    jxeeno writes...

    Thanks, fixed :)

    Was 6PNJ-51-06-NODT one of these sites?
    It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.

  • 2016-May-6, 3:38 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    Is this finder article ... legit?

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-is-cutting-fees-to-install-satellite-broadband-ahead-of-launch

    No date.

    No nbn reference.

    And why October end?

  • 2016-May-6, 3:38 pm
    Cashie

    Cashie writes...

    Was 6PNJ-51-06-NODT one of these sites?
    It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.

    I'm assuming myNBN has got this wrong as it's still not officially RFS. :-(

  • Wahroonga Farm

    Hi guys,

    BFF (BeFore Finder) there where several interactive maps of FTTN trial areas, which gave an estimate of speed and distance to the node.

    Are these still available?

    The old link is broken. http://fttn.mynbn.info/?esa=GRKN

  • Dazed and Confused.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Hi guys,

    BFF (BeFore Finder) there where several interactive maps of FTTN trial areas, which gave an estimate of speed and distance to the node.

    Are these still available?

    they were taken down as the results were not matching what was being seen in the wild.
    Also from memory they did not have vectoring included in the calcs

    Mr Mac was working on more accurate data/maps.
    He lives in the Kellyville roll out region and seems to be concentrating on his own "back yard"
    He has posted some images of that area in the Kellyville thread /forum-replies.cfm?t=2429691

  • 2016-May-10, 12:49 pm
    Spacko

    I am looking for some clarification on a local tower � the NBN dude that was here seems to think progress will occur in the next couple of months, but I am thinking not.

    The tower is 4NGO-51-07-GING, according to http://www.rfnsa2.com.au/CCPage/ViewPage/3609?sid=S28Up5Go0u8dLc54AaCl47946FdQu8H87CgdYj4GAApUCS5S6U&siteID=4671004&mode=view, but the name for that tower, Gin Gin Central, comes up under 4BBE. Or rather it doesn't. Gin Gin is listed as an indicative coverage area but it appears to not be in the current three year plan as a *site*. As a coverage area, but not a site. NBNco's website just says they're coming to the area but doesn't say when.

    So, when will we know when it will be started on?

    Also, the above link has documents relating to Aurecon's consultative process and the construction plan for the tower as consulted with the community. This plan show a parabolic dish pointing at 227 degrees, but ACMA shows no dish registered on that azimuth. See http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=16851&pSORT_BY=&pOFFSET=50. Rather, there is a parabolic dish pointing 71 degrees.

    The dish ACMA knows about points "the wrong way" for the site name to be in 4NGO, and places it in 4BBE (as per finder). The dish ACMA doesn't know about points to "Horsecamp" (which interests me greatly as I live near there). The Aurecon plans don't show a dish pointing where ACMA thinks it is.

    So, who wins? ACMA, Aurecon, both, neither (Gin Gin gets nothing as NBN runs out of money before anything actually gets built)?

  • 2016-May-10, 12:49 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    they were taken down as the results were not matching what was being seen in the wild.

    Thanks. :)

  • 2016-May-11, 8:35 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Is this finder article ... legit?

    Indeed it is! The date is on the right side, under my name :)

    NBN source: http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco2/documents/sfaa-ancillary-charges-waiver-discount-notice_20160426.pdf

  • 2016-May-11, 8:35 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    Are these still available?

    The old link is broken.

    What Dazed said. They were removed shortly after the product release of FTTN because I haven't had the time to upgrade and improve the code behind the maps.

    I, too, await Mr Mac's maps :) He did most of the pillar-spotting work on my old maps too.

  • 2016-May-11, 8:42 am
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Cashie writes...

    It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.

    Yeah, sorry :( It's the conflicting satellite footprint data that's causing issues.

    I'll go through and audit the data next week once I have fewer assignments on my belt.

  • 2016-May-11, 8:42 am
    MrMac

    jxeeno writes...

    I, too, await Mr Mac's maps :) He did most of the pillar-spotting work on my old maps too.

    Still working on them in my spare time. Large amount work done, but currently hung up on getting a sustainable & self-updating routing DB based on OSM. Vital work to ensure reasonable level of accuracy without too much manual work (asides from updating global OSM)

  • 2016-May-11, 10:08 am
    Wahroonga Farm

    jxeeno writes...

    Indeed it is!

    Thanks. ;)

    MrMac writes...

    Still working on them

    ... and thanks again.

    Mr Mac,

    What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?

  • 2016-May-11, 10:08 am
    hawtdawg

    G'day
    Most of the nodes in 2MAI-09 have had their DA labels placed on them, I've noticed other suburbs that haven't been computed yet have DA's listed on mynbn, is there any chance this list will be updated soon so I can see which node i'm on? (could be one of two)

  • 2016-May-11, 12:19 pm
    outback

    Hi jxeeno, could you check status for 4MLS, Maudsland Qld. The RFS shows 20-May-2016 but no-one has heard from NBN yet.
    Also one area (Tuxedo Junction Estate) has been installed with FTTP but your finder tool is still reporting FTTN � http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Ave,%20Maudsland,%20QLD,%204210,%20Australia

    see /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502706#r4

  • 2016-May-11, 12:19 pm
    outback

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?

    If you want distance PM rendrag

    /archive/2508787#r49856113

  • 2016-May-11, 11:24 pm
    mopo

    so nbnco had a stall set up at the local shopping centre and i asked when the rollout would be ready in my area... lo and behold they went straight to the finder.com.au site instead of any actual data they might have internally.

    wow.

  • 2016-May-11, 11:24 pm
    MrMac

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?

    TBH not looking into detail on dBm. It's estimates only with speed formula based on public info on expected speeds and I'll likely only publish a range eg. 60-80 for example. May actually ping Denmark555 as he has collated all the data reports on WP.

    mopo writes...

    so nbnco had a stall set up at the local shopping centre and i asked when the rollout would be ready in my area... lo and behold they went straight to the finder.com.au site instead of any actual data they might have internally.

    Wouldn't be the first time. Here is NBNCo showing Deputy PM Truss on how awesome NBNCo on 7:30 Report by using Finder (they were also showing the Wireless info)

    http://i.imgur.com/XHhZuUl.png

  • 2016-May-11, 11:26 pm
    Wahroonga Farm

    MrMac writes...

    TBH not looking into detail on dBm. It's estimates only with speed formula based on public info on expected speeds and I'll likely only publish a range eg. 60-80 for example.

    Thanks Mr Mac.

    The big variable with denmark 555's data ... is all the variables. :)

    From my very limited perspective, this chart is as good as any for good copper and first point termination. :)

    http://s32.postimg.org/bx2hfdhit/VDSL2_distance_from_cabinet.jpg

    Source: IDATE (from an Ofcom report)

    It certainly plots me in about the right spot, with my speeds in the mid 60's at ~ 600m at Gorokan, NSW

  • MrMac
    this post was edited

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    It certainly plots me in about the right spot, with my speeds in the mid 60's at ~ 600m at Gorokan, NSW

    This is the baseline graph that I use for my calls, from which I would range. Needs a slight update as my formula drops in a little too early by about 50-100m

    Edit: forgot the graph http://i.imgur.com/Vq5no9Z.jpg but will take this to the vdsl thread now (not exactly mynbn!)

  • outback

    Wahroonga Farm writes...

    this chart is as good as any for good copper

    The charts demonstrates that VDSL cannot deliver Malcolm's "guaranteed" 25Mbps if you're more than 1Km from the FTTN "node"

  • 2016-May-16, 5:54 pm
    AirJordanFan93

    Good to see my are 6JTS has finally been added to the rollout map.

  • 2016-May-16, 5:54 pm
    kewls

    So much for quick roll out.

    3EPP was initially planed for June 2016 for construction to start.

    NOW it is showing 3 years Plan. ( I am so sad)

  • 2016-May-16, 7:52 pm
    cloneme

    Thank you Mr Mac. a very good chart and it puts me at about 65down 25Up however I'm with Optus on 100/40 plan and this is todays 6am speed test http://netgauge.ookla.com/share/460743619.png . I am 527m from node in Gorokan same area as Wahroonga Farm :-)

    I rang optus once more and I am now told that, that is all I can get on my line??? I told him I have had speeds of 37Mbps and recorded and should be more but can't get anymore. I have already spoken to NBN and they told me they had advised them see this part of their letter.
    "Our records for your address do indicate that your preferred RSP has followed their correct process and lodged an incident for investigation. When checking the incident, we have responded to your RSP with what is causing your speed to be reduced and we have advised them on what they need to do to resolve the issue. You will need to contact your preferred RSP, they will need to check the notes on the incident they lodged through to us and they need to arrange to resolve your issues by following the instructions provided to them."

    Well based on all my speed tests I am being screwed.

  • 2016-May-16, 7:52 pm
    dJOS

    cloneme writes...

    I'm with Optus

    There's your problem right there! Their contention ratios are as bad as Dodo's these days!

  • 2016-May-18, 4:44 pm
    outback

    outback writes...

    4MLS, Maudsland Qld. The RFS shows 20-May-2016

    4MLS was activated on 20-May-2016,

    Tuxedo Junction still showing technology is Fibre to the Node, whereas all lots in this upmarket estate have FTTP � This photo (http://forum.delimiter.com.au/t/got-any-photos-of-nbn-infrastructure/121/25) taken from 27 FRED ASTAIRE AV, MAUDSLAND, QLD

    jxeeno writes...

    I'll go through and audit the data next week

    Jxeeno � Could you include 4MLS. Why is the technology type in Tuxedo Junction being concealed by NBN � maybe bacause all surrounding areas have the second-rate FTTN? See /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821#r1

  • 2016-May-18, 4:44 pm
    LithgowLights

    kewls writes...

    So much for quick roll out.

    3EPP was initially planed for June 2016 for construction to start.

    NOW it is showing 3 years Plan. ( I am so sad)

    Yep ours has been delayed a further 6 months (from Q1 2017 to H2 2017) for the build to start :(

  • bigmacmclean

    Hi everyone. Needing some advice from the more knowledgable.
    I love in 5REL-05 in SA
    All of 5REL has ADA info except -05 where I Am.

    Anyone know why or how this is updated?
    Interested to know how many premises on my node etc

  • eamn yidspla

    Jxeeno � I see the latest updates on the rollout are dated as 31 Mar, Are you still getting updated ADA info & RFS dates through your sources?

    Thanks

  • 2016-May-19, 1:50 pm
    Xtr33m3

    jxeeno writes...

    As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.

    It's just a political tool.

    This is exactly what happened for Alice Springs. We had guys doing inspections and delivering letters to people who were to have an FTTN node outside their house, yet no build prep on the map.

    Amazingly the Territory Chief Minister announce the next step of the 'Developing the North' plan for the NT, by the end of the day Alice Springs was suddenly in build preparation......

  • 2016-May-19, 1:50 pm
    agumby

    nvm

  • 2016-May-23, 1:18 pm
    agumby

    LithgowLights writes...

    Yep ours has been delayed a further 6 months (from Q1 2017 to H2 2017) for the build to start :(

    might turn out to be a good thing now as you may get fibre instead

  • 2016-May-23, 1:18 pm
    PeteP

    Regarding the mirage that is HFC.

    Given 4RDC-68 will be going RFS in 3 weeks time why is there no ADA information yet:
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/4RDC-68

    And has NBN assigned a Service Class yet to HFC?

  • 2016-May-24, 9:20 pm
    Gamer82
    this post was edited

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/6COW

    Build Commenced

    Premises 1,200

    About 5 months build prep time considering its a small town and its badly needed there as decent internet access there is terrible....well expensive 4G mobile broadband is the only option otherwise.

    I drive through that town on my to work Monday to Friday.

    https://www.google.com/maps/@-33.8485054,115.104429,3a,60y,279.32h,88.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1secB1ad7-BCqvOMMJC1ml6w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

    That's the town's Telstra exchange

  • 2016-May-24, 9:20 pm
    denmark555

    Looks like all the FTTN SAMs have been switched to Brownfields FTTP again during an update. I didn't think it would be that easy to do :)

    There should be more than 5 SAMs in this list for instance...

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/recent/copper

  • jmanwf
    this post was edited

    Well according to the update mynbn website to Flagstaff Hill has just gone into build Preperation although not on the offical nbn website http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/5CMD

    Is the website pretty accurate 5CMD has changed today.

    Projected # SAMs (may only include 3 yr plan#)Fixed-Line was FTTX5 before today now 6 today

  • jxeeno
    O.P.

    denmark555 writes...

    I didn't think it would be that easy to do :)

    I think I've found the culprit (currently re-running the update), nbn seems to want to change its technology identifier every month ;)

  • 2016-May-31, 12:06 pm
    thebookfreak58

    Any chance of the usual listing of updates?

  • 2016-May-31, 12:06 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    PeteP writes...

    Given 4RDC-68 will be going RFS in 3 weeks time why is there no ADA information yet:
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/4RDC-68

    And has NBN assigned a Service Class yet to HFC?

    Unfortunately, there's no new data for ADA information at this stage.

    There are HFC Service Classes though � SC 20 to 23, mirrors 0-3 on FTTP and 10-13 on other FTTx.

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:06 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    thebookfreak58 writes...

    Any chance of the usual listing of updates?

    Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:06 pm
    thebookfreak58

    jxeeno writes...

    Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.

    Good luck!

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:07 pm
    Thomson Tam

    jxeeno writes...

    Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.

    Best wish to your exam!

  • 2016-Jun-16, 10:07 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    As posted on the rollout progress thread

    jxeeno writes...

    Rollout Progress Update � June 2016

    Full list and details: http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-rollout-update-june-2016

    thebookfreak58 writes...

    Good luck!

    Thomson Tam writes...

    Best wish to your exam!

    Thanks y'all

  • 2016-Jun-17, 9:52 am
    money_killer

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=9%20Anzac%20Avenue,%20Beerburrum,%20Queensland,%20Australia

    dammit. only 200 house in my town and the x change is across the street. the next town/ x-change to me already has it. no info on mine wtf ..

  • 2016-Jun-17, 9:52 am
    GEPLAYER

    Thanks for all the hard work with the updates Jxeeno. Seems really weird though that all these areas are going into build yet theres no actual work being done on the ground. My area 3WBO has been in build for nearly 4 months now and I haven't seen any work or any nbn labeled vehicles anywhere, and I've driven around the Brownfields SAM locations. With some sites RFS in Oct and Nov....I can't see them being done anywhere near on time.

    There's been no media on it, no work...aside from the occasional vaccum truck, 1 of which I saw 6months ago and another I saw 2 weeks ago...nothing else in between. Really odd. Is this a phenomenon you're seeing in your data analysis of the nbn progress?

  • weetbix4011

    I cant believe it. "Build Commenced" has finally happened!!.

    I'm in Yass and build commenced only shows for the southern part of the town. I assume it will be done in two stages and they wont just do the southern part and leave the northern? I of course live in the Northen side.

  • jmanwf

    Question guys is this site pretty accurate for rollout information etc because it has Flagstaff Hill 5CMD has just gone into build preparation mode also the number of sams is now 6. The Build preparation isnt show in green on the nbn map yet for my area

  • 2016-Jun-17, 1:53 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    this site is inaccurate and has false information on it .

    Before the government changed, my area was listed on the map as build commenced.

    In come the new government and within a month the entire town was switched to no build commenced, it stayed like that for years.

    However I recently had fibre pulled to my house, yup FTTP, its not finished yet, but its not FTTN the map now says that my area is build commenced again, but it also says that everyone is getting FTTN including me, so unless they are going to also run copper from a node I don't see how any of this info on this site can be considered relevant.

    The fact that I am getting FTTP means that this build WAS in fact commenced before the change of government as why would they put in FTTP when they are avoiding that at all costs everywhere else ? because it was already in build from labours plan v1. so they lied when they took the build commenced away, and they are lying now when they say this is one of their successes in getting people connected, because labour is getting me connected from plan v1. They also are lying about the tech that is going in on their rollout map.

    so first off. Don't believe anything you see on that site, its probably wrong.
    secondly yeah I have had this coil of fibre hanging from the wall of my house for over a month now and nothing else has happened the cable is pulled from the FDH to my house .... the map states I am to be ready for service in November this year ?? I don't trust that because everything else about my location is wrong on their site. But having said that I don't doubt it could/will take many more months before I can apply for a service.

  • 2016-Jun-17, 1:53 pm
    Who Needs a Name?

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    this site is inaccurate and has false information on it

    Out of curiosity what does the nbnco website say about your location?

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:35 pm
    jmanwf

    The reason why i ask is because Flagstaff Hill has been put into Build preparation on this site but it has not been shaded in green on the official nbn website.

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/5CMD-20

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:35 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    Endgame writes...

    Out of curiosity what does the nbnco website say about your location?

    it says

    Good news, construction of the nbn� network started in your area using fixed line technology. Construction takes approximately 12 months, on average, to complete.

    it goes on to say that fixed line can mean pretty much anything except wireless

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:53 pm
    Who Needs a Name?

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    it says

    Good news, construction of the nbn� network started in your area using fixed line technology. Construction takes approximately 12 months, on average, to complete.

    it goes on to say that fixed line can mean pretty much anything except wireless

    ahh, so in other words typical NBN crap

  • 2016-Jun-17, 2:53 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    this site is inaccurate and has false information on it .

    Hi Deadly Chicken,

    Firstly, thanks for your feedback. But unfortunately, the information on our site can only be as accurate as what NBN Co provides. The fickle nature of the Multi-Technology Mix rollout means that the final technology you will end up receiving may change even as the build happens.

    As I have said on the rollout progress page, the area you're in (which appears to be 4FRV-01, correct me if I'm wrong) has a few "New Development" (Greenfields) rollouts within in. It's possible calculated it would be cheaper to roll out a new fibre cable to your place rather than connect you to a node if you close to a new development.

    However, as I have said, even the most recent information from NBN Co indicates that your entire Service Area Module will get FTTN (with the exception of the New Development, obviously).

    Don't believe anything you see on that site, its probably wrong.
    secondly yeah I have had this coil of fibre hanging from the wall of my house for over a month now and nothing else has happened the cable is pulled from the FDH to my house .... the map states I am to be ready for service in November this year ?? I don't trust that because everything else about my location is wrong on their site. But having said that I don't doubt it could/will take many more months before I can apply for a service

    As this thread would show, the site has proved to be quite accurate for the majority of people. There are obviously exceptions to the case and as I've said � we can only be as accurate as the NBN's own information.

    In your case, your best method to verify that status of your address is probably to call up or contact NBN Co directly. They have internal systems which can likely tell you which technology your premises is currently designed to use.

    Hope that helps,
    jx

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:09 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    jmanwf writes...

    The reason why i ask is because Flagstaff Hill has been put into Build preparation on this site but it has not been shaded in green on the official nbn website

    NBN Co is phasing out the "build preparation" status on its rollout map, meaning it's no longer shaded until your area reaches the "build commenced" stage. From memory, the last batch of "build preparation" which were added to the map were from March 2016 (or thereabouts).

    We're looking at a number of options on how best to deal with this situation because as is evident, it causes a bit of confusion when an area does reach the "build preparation" page but an end user can't see themselves on the map.

    The truth is, even though we know an area has gone into preparation stage � we don't know the boundaries of that rollout area until it's published by NBN on their rollout map.

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:09 pm
    natlee

    I have a question that nobody has been able to answer, maybe someone here can answer it.
    On the 16th of May my area in Maryland NSW as well as Fletcher was shown on the rollout map as build has started, then 2 weeks later it only shows Fletcher. Now this week the rollout map shows the other part Maryland has gone into build but not mine. I spoke to construction crew in my street yesterday and they told me that area is 2NTL-01. Which includes the area that shows Fletcher as build. Also Mynbn is now only showing fletcher as of yesterday instead saying parts of Fletcher and Maryland like it said earlier in the week? I am just very confused. Any light on this would be great. Thanks

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:11 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    jxeeno writes...

    In your case, your best method to verify that status of your address is probably to call up or contact NBN Co directly. They have internal systems which can likely tell you which technology your premises is currently designed to use.

    ok thanks, I didn't mean offense, about the site, its just not accurate for me I know what tech I am getting because
    http://users.on.net/~deadlychicken/Images/nbn.jpg

    I'm pretty sure that's fibre pulled to my house ?

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:11 pm
    NetskyAU

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    I'm pretty sure that's fibre pulled to my house ?

    Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg

    Edit: Oops, small oversight. Nothing to see here! Move along!

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:16 pm
    Quentin Rittman

    NetskyAU writes...

    Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg

    the cable is the fibre leadin, PCD just hasn't been installed yet.

    (there are already 2 cables to the Telstra madison box)

  • 2016-Jun-17, 3:16 pm
    Deadly Chicken

    yeah man, calm down .. they only pulled the cable a month ago give them some time :/ lol

  • 2016-Jun-18, 8:10 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    natlee writes...

    Also Mynbn is now only showing fletcher as of yesterday instead saying parts of Fletcher and Maryland like it said earlier in the week? I am just very confused. Any light on this would be great. Thanks

    Hi natlee,

    I've just checked and can confirm that 2NLT-01 has shrunk westwards between May and June. It's likely that they've split the rollout region into two parts (basically west Fletcher and east Fletcher). However, I'm not privy as to why that's happened... you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.

    Sorry I can't help any further.

    Cheers,
    jx

  • 2016-Jun-18, 8:10 pm
    natlee

    jxeeno writes...

    Hi natlee,

    I've just checked and can confirm that 2NLT-01 has shrunk westwards between May and June. It's likely that they've split the rollout region into two parts (basically west Fletcher and east Fletcher). However, I'm not privy as to why that's happened... you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.

    Sorry I can't help any further.

    Cheers,
    jx

    Thanks,
    I have ask them, via Facebook and email and both times all they told me "the nbn is your at your address, update your email for updates"
    However, there was contractors in my street yesterday building a new nbn pit 50meters from node nbn put in in May before they changed the map. Hopefully we have gone back into prep mode. We see a change in the near future.
    Thanks for getting back to me

  • outback

    jxeeno writes...

    you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.

    Hi jxeeno � hope the exams went well.

    NBN has been contacted regarding technology type used in the Tuxedo Junction estate in the Maudsland exchange (4MLS) area but have not responded.

    Residents in Maudsland are very interested to find out more about how the fully developed 10+ yr old Tuxedo Junction estate managed to get FTTP while surrounding areas have the second rate FTTN, for some this will be a factor in how they vote.

    Although this exchange was RFS on 20-May-2016 your info still shows that FTTN has been installed in that location.

    outback writes...

    Also one area (Tuxedo Junction Estate) has been installed with FTTP but your finder tool is still reporting FTTN � http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Ave,%20Maudsland,%20QLD,%204210,%20Australia

    see /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502706#r4

    How often do you get updates from NBN?
    How many brownfields have you seen change from FTTN to FTTP since Turnbull chucked out FTTP?

  • Deadly Chicken

    NetskyAU writes...

    Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg

    Edit: Oops, small oversight. Nothing to see here! Move along

    just for completeness sake, I came home to this tonight

    http://users.on.net/~deadlychicken/Images/nbn2.jpg

  • 2016-Jun-19, 8:04 am
    outback

    Deadly Chicken writes...

    just for completeness sake, I came home to this tonight
    http://users.on.net/~deadlychicken/Images/nbn2.jpg

    Are you in a brownfield? What exchange area?
    I thought Malcolm had abandonned FTTP

  • 2016-Jun-19, 8:04 am
    TryAgain87

    Hey Jxeeno,
    I've noticed a bit of an interesting one and thought you might have some more information on it.

    The NBN Service Portal shows the 5REL-03-01 area as Service Class 0 (FTTP) but the Finder Rollout map has the same area as Service Class 10 (FTTN).

    Do you know what's happening in this area?

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:05 pm
    outback

    TryAgain87 writes...

    I've noticed a bit of an interesting one

    Might be the same as what's happening in Tuxedo Junction, which I've asked jxeeno about on numerous occasions.

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia (shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location)

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&p=2#bottom

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502714#r6

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:05 pm
    djmickyp1969

    Howdy All

    I cant see here anything is written about the FTTN boxes in Maryland so thought id add this

    There are 3 FTTN boxes now installed in Boundary Road, Maryland
    1 near a big telstra pit near the shopping center (opp number 18) and has had techs working on it this week.
    the next one is outside 44 Boundary rd, Maryland and the next 72 Boundry Road Maryland

    i have seen a digger/driller on the corner of Prospero and Boundry last week and Ill continue to keep watch on the locations as im sure ill be fed from one of the boxes (44 is approx 200mts from box to my house based on past issue, running house to pit, pit to pit across the road, and tech said i was fed from the boundry road direction even though i have a telstra pillar on my opposite corner to my house) .

    Cheers
    Mike
    Warkworth St, Maryland!

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:25 pm
    Cashie

    I see that you've changed my RFS to 29 May 16, it was 30 Jun 16, neither appear correct, is there an issue with the database for this site?
    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/6PNJ-51-06-NODT

  • 2016-Jun-21, 8:25 pm
    natlee

    djmickyp1969 writes...

    There are 3 FTTN boxes now installed in Boundary Road, Maryland
    1 near a big telstra pit near the shopping center (opp number 18) and has had techs working on it this week.
    the next one is outside 44 Boundary rd, Maryland and the next 72 Boundry Road Maryland

    There is also, 2 in Callan Ave, one at each end. They have been working on them during the week. The funny thing is that we are still not on the map.

  • 2016-Jun-27, 12:17 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Based on the feedback we've received from users about the confusing dual display (rollout region on the left, address info as infobox), we've rolled out an updated map interface to consolidate this data in a single infobox to make it clearer for everyone. The new UI should also be more mobile friendly.

    Additional rollout region information such as POI, CSA, SA and SAM continues to be available by clicking the "More info" link.

  • 2016-Jun-27, 12:17 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Cashie writes...

    I see that you've changed my RFS to 29 May 16, it was 30 Jun 16, neither appear correct, is there an issue with the database for this site?

    Thanks for the heads up. It should say 31 Aug 2016. I'll investigate what's going on here.

  • 2016-Jun-27, 11:51 pm
    ?zu??

    jxeeno writes...

    Additional rollout region information such as POI, CSA, SA and SAM continues to be available by clicking the "More info" link.

    How would one find out which node they are connected to on the new UI? Used to be on the panel on the left, but now it's no where to be seen.

    Also, with the box at the bottom popping up, it makes it feel very cramped. Would be better to have it as a vertical panel like previously IMO, even if it was the same info, just arranged vertically. Or expanding the map vertically another 50% would make it much more usable

  • 2016-Jun-27, 11:51 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    ?zu?? writes...

    Also, with the box at the bottom popping up, it makes it feel very cramped. Would be better to have it as a vertical panel like previously IMO, even if it was the same info, just arranged vertically. Or expanding the map vertically another 50% would make it much more usable

    Understood, although the reason behind the move to the bottom pop-up is the make sure it worked with mobile. Having the panel on the LHS made the map fairly unusable on mobile without a slideout panel

    How would one find out which node they are connected to on the new UI? Used to be on the panel on the left, but now it's no where to be seen.

    You're right. Looks like it got dropped off the final release. It should be there as a tooltip, I'll get it popped back in.

  • 2016-Jun-29, 8:40 pm
    ?zu??

    jxeeno writes...

    Understood, although the reason behind the move to the bottom pop-up is the make sure it worked with mobile. Having the panel on the LHS made the map fairly unusable on mobile without a slideout panel

    Fair enough. I just feel that this feels more spacious and easier to view the map on desktop: http://i.imgur.com/dmMNv3B.png

    Could always define the CSS based on screen orientation?

    You're right. Looks like it got dropped off the final release. It should be there as a tooltip, I'll get it popped back in.

    Thanks, It's a useful tool to figure out line lengths and such!

  • 2016-Jun-29, 8:40 pm
    outback

    http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia

    shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location.

    How reliable is info on the finder site with regards to technology type in use?

  • 2016-Jun-30, 2:55 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    outback writes...

    shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location.

    How reliable is info on the finder site with regards to technology type in use?

    Looking into this. Looks like NBN originally designated FTTN to that address, but switched to FTTP at a later date. We should have an updated address list next week which should solve the issue.

  • 2016-Jun-30, 2:55 pm
    Sgt Batten

    Hi jxeeno,

    Thank for the update. For some reason the more info button goes to a 404error in my area. 2NLT-02

    I tried other brown areas and they seemed to work.

    Also you have our rfs date as December this year but we only just appeared on the Telstra documents about a month ago and our rfs date is listed at 09 may 17.

    Thirdly my house is new as of 2014 and is one of three houses that replaced a single dwelling at the same address. Google maps etc only shows the one residence and our 3 addresses have the same location ID. Is this a concern or simply a limitation of the mapping tool until updated by google/nbn

  • 2016-Jun-30, 6:58 pm
    jujay

    Hi jxeeno,

    The SAM for my area shows as "Ready for service" according to the tracker http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sam/2SIL-03

    However, on the map, it comes up brown, as in "build commenced". Given the conflicting info, would you say that it's very close to actually being available?

    Thanks

  • 2016-Jun-30, 6:58 pm
    NetskyAU

    It is avaliable. The map updates once a week to reflect the change of colour. You should be good to go.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:15 pm
    jujay

    NetskyAU writes...

    It is avaliable. The map updates once a week to reflect the change of colour. You should be good to go

    Thanks. I thought so too but when I try to sign up with TPG for example, it says my address is not available for NBN yet (and their customer service department confirmed this by phone also) :S

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:15 pm
    NetskyAU

    Odd. Have you tried another RSP? Are you in a block of units?

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:16 pm
    jujay

    Yes, just tried dodo, and it's the same result. I am in a block of units, does that make a difference?

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:16 pm
    NetskyAU

    Sometimes units can be delayed by various reasons. It may be easier for you to post in your recommended area thread to get assistance.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:18 pm
    jujay

    Ok will do. Thanks for your input NetskyAU :)

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:18 pm
    jxeeno
    O.P.

    Sgt Batten writes...

    For some reason the more info button goes to a 404error in my area. 2NLT-02

    Thanks for letting me know, looks like an issue with the new map interface. Investigating now :)

  • outback

    jxeeno writes...

    We should have an updated address list next week

    Of course, after the election, we'll let everyone know that Tuxedo Junction has FTTP (rolled out under MTM) while surrounding areas in Maudsland (4MLS- Gold Coast Hinterland) have second rate FTTN.

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&p=2#bottom

  • jxeeno
    O.P.
    this post was edited

    outback writes...

    Of course, after the election, we'll let everyone know that Tuxedo Junction has FTTP (rolled out under MTM) while surrounding areas in Maudsland (4MLS- Gold Coast Hinterland) have second rate FTTN.

    I assure you there is no conspiracy related to the election.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:20 pm
    outback

    jxeeno writes...

    there is not conspiracy related to the election

    Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia to see how soon it gets corrected after we know who will be running the NBN next week.

  • 2016-Jul-1, 9:20 pm
    Sgt Batten

    outback writes...

    Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site

    You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:01 am
    Brian White

    outback writes...

    Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site

    Jxeeno runs the site, LOL.

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:01 am
    STANnFRETY

    Brian White writes...

    Jxeeno runs the site, LOL.

    hahahaha

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:37 pm
    Cashie

    Sgt Batten writes...

    You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.

    Classic... Yes he is.

  • 2016-Jul-2, 12:37 pm
    outback

    Sgt Batten writes...

    You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.

    Yeah, but sourced from NBN. If you look at that link (today � 4 Jul-2016) it displays "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".
    NBN have not updated whatever jxeeno is using as a data source since that time, I'm suggesting that is/was politically motivated and updates are pending political events. jxeeno has no control of the source of information, but does a fine job of displaying it � better than NBN. Many kudos to jxeeno for such a fine job.

  • jxeeno
    O.P.

    Well, this is embarrassing. I forgot I wouldn't have a stable internet connection today, so update will probably come later this week. Sorry :(

  • Derek

    This seems pretty obvious however I'll ask: I am moving to a new estate where myNBN indicates as active greenfield FTTP so I assume that NBN FTTP is a go?

    I noted that Harbour ISP had already setup a modem and brochures in my apartment which seems cheeky (or good marketing?).

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:24 pm
    benjsc

    jxeeno writes...

    Well, this is embarrassing. I forgot I wouldn't have a stable internet connection today, so update will probably come later this week. Sorry :(

    Classic, you must be on the MTM!

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:24 pm
    Cashie

    benjsc writes...

    Classic, you must be on the MTM!

    You might be able to verify at this website ;-)

    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:34 pm
    eamn yidspla

    Hi Jxeeno, just wondering with 3CRB-07 there is no ADA info available, and its due to go RFS on Friday. I have no idea which Node I am connected to, though I am in a small block of units, is it possible I would get FTTB?

    Thanks

  • 2016-Jul-3, 3:34 pm
    outback

    outback writes...

    "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".

    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia still says ""Accurate as at: 2016-02-20" even though "Ready for Service 22 May 2016" and "This area recently went active so we can't guarantee that a provider could connect you immediately." Also still incorrectly states "Rollout Type Fibre to the Node", whereas it's FTTP (/forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&r=50811307#r50811307}. Still waiting for NBN to explain why this brownfield qualified for FTTP, while surrounding areas have FTTN.

  • 2016-Jul-10, 11:05 am
    Neil Mac

    outback writes...

    Yeah, but sourced from NBN. If you look at that link (today � 4 Jul-2016) it displays "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".

    Accurate? ... Compared to Google Earth the map is almost 20 years old.

  • 2016-Jul-10, 11:05 am
    Dazed and Confused.

    outback writes...

    Still waiting for NBN to explain why this brownfield qualified for FTTP, while surrounding areas have FTTN.

    someone "important" live there?

  • 2016-Jul-10, 3:40 pm
    zetta

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    someone "important" live there?

    someone well connected before they got NBN and even better connected now they have a taxpayer funded FTTP, while it seems everyone around them has FTTN

  • 2016-Jul-10, 3:40 pm
    outback

    outback writes...

    "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20" even though "Ready for Service 22 May 2016"

    NBN (and jxeeno) still list the upmarket Gold Coast Hinterland estate Tuxedo Junction technology as FTTN, whereas it somehow managed to get a tax payer funded FTTP rollout, while surrounding areas have second rate FTTN.

    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map?address=27%20Fred%20Astaire%20Avenue,%20Maudsland,%20Queensland,%20Australia

  • 2016-Jul-10, 6:39 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    outback writes...

    NBN (and jxeeno) still list the upmarket Gold Coast Hinterland estate Tuxedo Junction technology as FTTN, whereas it somehow managed to get a tax payer funded FTTP rollout, while surrounding areas have second rate FTTN.

    isn't that Russ HInze's stomping ground?
    guess political favours carry over after death

  • 2016-Jul-10, 6:39 pm
    outback

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    Russ HInze's stomping ground?

    Yeah, I think they buried him in a nearby valley, it's called the Hinze Dam now

  • 2016-Jul-15, 5:49 pm
    ?zu??

    Not sure if I am blind or things have moved around, but I used to be able to see the number of premises to be connected to each node by clicking on the map (before the update). Is this information still available somewhere?

    edit: found it, under ADA info after clicking more info.

  • 2016-Jul-15, 5:49 pm
    skylinewa

    I'm a bit lost/confused regarding inclusion on or exclusion from the infamous 3-year plan.

    6KAL (https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/6KAL) shows 8000 @ FFTN for construction H1/2018 and RFS H2/2018, consistent with http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/three-year-construction-plan.html. My suburb is included in the "indicative localities" but entering anywhere in our street gives the dreaded "No service info" and "nbn will be coming to your area, however construction is not expected to commence for at least another three years."

    Does this indicate that only PART of 6KAL/my_suburb is in the 3-year plan? How can I burrow down to get a better idea of planned build/RFS times?

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:26 pm
    eamn yidspla

    Has anyone noticed any other Sam's that dont have the ADA info populated? 3CRB-07 went RFS on 8th July, and still doesnt have updated ADA info, I have no idea which node I am connected to

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:26 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    eamn yidspla writes...

    Has anyone noticed any other Sam's that dont have the ADA info populated? 3CRB-07 went RFS on 8th July, and still doesnt have updated ADA info, I have no idea which node I am connected to

    this info it seems is no longer obtainable from nbn�

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:57 pm
    Alvacs

    I'm trying to use the rollout map on my ipad and i cant access the search bar anymore. http://imgur.com/a/E2Uyn
    Anyone able to give me a quick fix?

  • 2016-Jul-15, 7:57 pm
    number-7

    Alvacs writes...

    Anyone able to give me a quick fix?

    Works fine for me on my iPad Air 2. Perhaps try going directly to https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker and the address search bar should appear in the middle of the page.

  • ClaudeKrowe

    Hi everyone,

    For FSAM 4FRV-03 � Frenchville Service Area (Central Qld � POI 4ROT)

    The map is brown and indicates In Build with RFS November 16

    So my question is, does the 18 month swap over countdown start from 1-11-2016

    Answering this helps out my pensioner Mum

    Thanks in anticipation all

    ClaudeKrowe

  • NetskyAU

    I believe it starts on the day of Ready for Service.

  • 2016-Jul-24, 1:13 am
    Alvacs

    number-7 writes...

    Perhaps try going directly to https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker and the address search bar should appear in the middle of the page.

    Thanks, I can search addresses directly from there

  • 2016-Jul-24, 1:13 am
    Chuppa

    yo29 writes...

    It says that roll out type is FBBN but when i click on more info and service area module most premises are service class 1 and 3? Does that mean i am getting FTTC or FTTN.. Its a new suburb that was built is 2012?

    Have a look a the link you posted (which you should remove unless you want some weirdo visitors to your home address). It shows on the map page "Rollout Type: Fibre to the Node".

  • 2016-Jul-26, 3:46 pm
    yo29

    Thanks Chuppa.
    Why does is say most premises are service class 1 or 3 in premises bu sevice class? Is that fibre to premises?

  • 2016-Jul-26, 3:46 pm
    YMO

    Service Class
    Service Class Definition

    Service Class 0
    the location is planned to be serviceable by fibre

    Service Class 1
    the location is serviceable by fibre, no PCD or NTD in place

    Service Class 2
    the location is serviceable by fibre, PCD installed, no NTD in place

    Service Class 3
    the location is serviceable by fibre, PCD and NTD in place

  • 2016-Jul-26, 4:13 pm
    yo29

    Thanks YMO. But my question is why did it say roll out type is FTTN but premises service class is 1 or 3? Service class 1 and 3 are serviceable by fibre but rollout type is still FTTN. Sorry if its a stupid question.
    Thanks in advance

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:09 pm
    Mesmus

    skylinewa writes...

    Does this indicate that only PART of 6KAL/my_suburb is in the 3-year plan? How can I burrow down to get a better idea of planned build/RFS times?

    They probably don't update that until it gets closer to construction date. I'm scheduled for H2. 2017 and I still get the same message.

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:09 pm
    Lord Hisssss.

    Tracker need to be updated. I put our address in to see if it was available it said it was not available and was coming within three years.

    Well I got news for NBN Tracker I have NBN Satellite ( Sky buster) installed last month and it working fine.

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:31 pm
    Sgt Batten
    this post was edited

    yo29 writes...

    But my question is why did it say roll out type is FTTN but premises service class is 1 or 3? Service class 1 and 3 are serviceable by fibre but rollout type is still FTTN

    Because FTTN is still fibre.

    Edit, wrong

  • 2016-Jul-31, 3:31 pm
    dJOS

    Sgt Batten writes...

    Because FTTN is still fibre

    Not in this universe it isn't.

  • Sgt Batten
    this post was edited

    Mistaken

  • Dazed and Confused.

    Sgt Batten writes...

    Perhaps for the purpose of answering his question which is all I was doing.

    nbn� have service classes for copper, so fibre classes shouldn't be used in reporting, not sure where the error is generated

    Service Class 10 location is planned to be serviceable by copper
    Service Class 11 the location is serviceable by copper, copper lead-in required
    Service Class 12 the location is serviceable by copper, jumpering is required
    Service Class 13 location is serviceable by copper, infrastructure in place

    information taken from https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/faq/list and compared with nbn� documents

  • 2016-Jul-31, 4:40 pm
    Sgt Batten

    Thanks for clarifying

  • 2016-Jul-31, 4:40 pm
    yo29

    Thanks for the clarification. Was getting my hope up when i saw service class 1 and 3.

  • Holdensupporter2005

    Lord Hisssss. writes...

    Tracker need to be updated. I put our address in to see if it was available it said it was not available and was coming within three years.

    Well I got news for NBN Tracker I have NBN Satellite ( Sky buster) installed last month and it working fine.

    It's possible that you will be getting Fixed Wireless / FTTN within 3 years.
    Areas that don't have anything are generally shown as NBN Satellite.

  • outback

    yo29 writes...

    But my question is why did it say roll out type is FTTN

    In some areas technology was a sensitive issue prior to the election ... /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821&r=50811307#r50811307

  • 2016-Aug-1, 9:36 am
    Cashie

    jxeeno writes...

    Thanks for the heads up. It should say 31 Aug 2016. I'll investigate what's going on here.

    I see this is still showing May RFS, will this be updated to reflect an accurate RFS?

  • 2016-Aug-1, 9:36 am
    Holdensupporter2005

    Is there any updates to the website data?
    The data for me says accurate as at 31 May 2016 almost 3 months out.

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:04 am
    Dazed and Confused.

    Holdensupporter2005 writes...

    Is there any updates to the website data?
    The data for me says accurate as at 31 May 2016 almost 3 months out.

    I would guess that this is the last bit of data that was able to be sourced out of nbn�

    also I would guess that data may also have become much harder to find in the back alley now after the AFP have been nosing around

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:04 am
    FibreFuture

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    also I would guess that data may also have become much harder to find in the back alley now after the AFP have been nosing around

    Dam, was waiting to see when the SC3 (Service Class 3) stats would appear for my area to see how many approx people have taken up NBN services in my area.

    at least I can still tell if they have an NTD by the conduit running up into the roof on the side of peoples houses where the PCD is. (Most installs in my rollout zone have comms conduits running up into the roof ducts on the side of houses)

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:22 am
    Holdensupporter2005
    this post was edited

    the RFS dates in my area have gone to Not Available,
    When it previously had dates set.

    In fact all areas now say "Not Available" for RFS date where a build is active.
    https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/list/rsort/rfs/status/build/p/1

  • 2016-Aug-1, 10:22 am
    GEPLAYER

    My guess is the sites being updated. A lot of users are reporting the sane change.

  • 2016-Aug-2, 10:48 am
    eamn yidspla

    It looks like Jxeeno isnt able to get data anymore from NBN.. as it has not been updated for ages..

    Same for Dcoopes and his node data, hasnt been updated in over 3 mths

  • 2016-Aug-2, 10:48 am
    Holdensupporter2005

    It is a shame that this info is not available to the public.
    Even on the main NBNCo Website, very little information is provided.

  • 2016-Aug-3, 8:42 pm
    gavinWA

    It's deliberate. Amongst other things, giving detailed information on the build stops people ignorantly renewing on 24 month plans on their existing provider and gives nbn competitors better ideas where they should concentrate their efforts.

  • 2016-Aug-3, 8:42 pm
    PeteP

    Holdensupporter2005 writes...

    Even on the main NBNCo Website, very little information is provided.

    The only reliable source left available is:
    https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/nbn/Documents/rollout-list.xlsx
    Go to Expected RFS sheet

  • 2016-Aug-31, 2:19 pm
    TakeMeOffGrid

    How recent is that Telstra wholesale document?

  • 2016-Aug-31, 2:19 pm
    Panaphonic

    TakeMeOffGrid writes...

    How recent is that Telstra wholesale document?

    You can see how recent the schedule is if you go to the webpage at https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/nbn/overview/nbn-rollout-schedule.html

    As at the time of this posting the last update was 25th August 2016.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 3:51 pm
    scowty

    How accurate are the RFS dates? My suburbs expected RFS is this friday but haven't received any info about it at all.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 3:51 pm
    hawtdawg

    My suburb went active last Friday which reflected the document

  • 2016-Aug-31, 8:16 pm
    Holdensupporter2005

    Maybe Jxeeno should be updating the website using the info from the TelstraWholesale report if he can't get the data from NBNco. I'm sure being Telstra Wholesale it should be pretty accurate.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 8:16 pm
    FibreFuture

    Jxeeno has said in the past that he would never use Telstra wholesale despite what information they have but now that NBN has tightened things up he may have too use TW anyway even tho he doesn't want to as that's probably the only option left without having to dig deep for information.

  • 2016-Aug-31, 9:17 pm
    STANnFRETY

    Man I just checked that document and it now has my suburb going RFS in feb 2018 when previously on finder it was set for a Q3 2016 build commenced date. FML :(

  • 2016-Aug-31, 9:17 pm
    Dazed and Confused.

    STANnFRETY writes...

    Man I just checked that document and it now has my suburb going RFS in feb 2018 when previously on finder it was set for a Q3 2016 build commenced date. FML :(

    soona*, cheapa*, fasta*

    *the use of these new words is done to confuse, whilst they sound like the words "sooner, faster and cheaper" they are new advertising constructs that actually mean slower, costlier and slower

  • 2016-Sep-1, 1:31 am
    Rev Black Grape

    i cant find my suburb on any of the roll out maps or telstra things to say when it would be done etc.

    and yet all new estates around me, including one about 0.5 k m away are getting it..

    thornlands qld 4164 is my suburb.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 1:31 am
    Jim Bookis

    Have a look at the 3 year plan.

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/three-year-construction-plan.html

    Thornlands is H2-2017 start work at the earliest. So if you are not on the RFS spreadsheet they are not even thinking about you yet.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:45 am
    Luthor

    My bad, I did misread.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:45 am
    Derwan

    Jim Bookis writes...

    Have a look at the 3 year plan.

    The plan that was last updated almost a year ago...

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:54 am
    scowty

    Contacted Telstra and they said there's been delays so the RFS date is incorrect :/

  • 2016-Sep-1, 6:54 am
    hawtdawg

    The document is updated on Fridays .. check tomorrow :)

  • 2016-Sep-1, 10:12 am
    Rev Black Grape

    Thanks jim bookis

  • 2016-Sep-1, 10:12 am
    HY

    Dazed and Confused. writes...

    soona*, cheapa*, fasta*

    And "more" "transparent" then before they Took Over�.

  • 2016-Sep-1, 12:39 pm
    scowty

    Turns out the rollout date was accurate, signing up to TPG 25/5 tonight. I'm not sure which node i'll be connected to but they're all over 650m away.
    The best thing about having 2mbit ADSL2+ is that even appalling fraudband speeds are a significant improvement.

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