Thứ Sáu, 30 tháng 9, 2016

Mandurah WA NBN Rollout part 2

  • 2014-May-30, 2:49 pm
    bobthebigbat

    Meth writes...

    6MDR-07 Cabinet 1 already installed and on its concrete foundations.

    Lucky ducks. Why is 6MDR-06 being overlooked? 6 should come before 7.

    I've had terrible congestion for several years and it is still getting worse.
    Peek periods are worse than dialup but nothing gets done no matter how many faults I report. Where is the ACCC to force Telstra to lower wholesale prices to match the service delivered? Maybe they'd invest in upgrades if they were about to loose 95% of their revenue.

  • 2014-May-30, 2:49 pm
    Meth

    No idea how to post photo of the cabinet. Have it now.

  • 2014-May-30, 3:25 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Ac3R writes...

    i think there is a positive outlook on most areas that were in the 1yr footprint to still receive fttp and even the 1to3yr footprint.

    Even assuming the Libs continue to pursue FTTN, I don't think the switch will formally occur before the next election, in which case there's no need to worry because the Libs seem to be doing a great job of ensuring Labor will be back in office in a few years.

  • 2014-May-30, 3:25 pm
    Enilyks_

    Meth writes...

    No idea how to post photo of the cabinet. Have it now.

    You will need to upload it to a photobuck type website then post the link

  • 2014-May-30, 4:25 pm
    Daniel:)

    Ac3R writes...

    You will need to upload it to a photobuck type website then post the link

    His Adsl1 is preventing him to upload ;) haha

  • 2014-May-30, 4:25 pm
    Meth
  • 2014-May-30, 4:38 pm
    Meth

    Can also provide photos to the concrete blocks for 6mdr07 / 02 &3 but that doesn't prove a lot.

    On holiday for the next 2 weeks in far north QLD so can not comment anymore for _certain_ till I get back but I know more than the nbnco website info does. Mandurah area residents not currently served or on the map to be served can breath a sigh of relief. FTTH is secured.

    Perth metro........ Well move to Mandurah if you want FTTH

  • 2014-May-30, 4:38 pm
    sdokeefe

    I'll believe it when I see the NBN trucks on my side Greenfields,

  • 2014-May-30, 6:46 pm
    Meth

    Want the good or bad news??.....

    Greenfields is currently listed as pre-build for the non completed section. I.e. Hospital side, _earliest_ I can estimate is end of 14 start of build and that's damn optimistic.

    FTTH at least.

  • 2014-May-30, 6:46 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    http://s34.photobucket.com/user/methgsr/media/imagejpg2_zps563fdbec.jpg.html

    To the dis believers, any other info wanted?

    What street is that on?

  • 2014-May-30, 8:04 pm
    Meth

    Heyerdahl Way.

  • 2014-May-30, 8:04 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    Heyerdahl Way.

    Grr do you know when they'll start getting closer to steerforth drive?

  • 2014-May-30, 8:10 pm
    Meth

    Ha... You'll need to calm down a bit.....

    Pit remediation is currently active in 6mdr-05, going well but only started ~3 weeks ago.

    07 is the next major remediation.

    I have a _optimistic_ timeline given but my background is a hands on operator so I treat management timelines with a grain of salt.

    Mark it down as a VERY positive sign 07-01 cabinet is on the ground, way before expected, ground crews are crunching 6mdr-05...... Hats off to them.. Good crew.

  • 2014-May-30, 8:10 pm
    Blacklisted72

    Meth writes...

    concrete blocks for 6mdr07 / 02 &3
    Hey Meth, what streets are these blocks on?
    Cheers

  • 2014-May-30, 8:37 pm
    Meth

    Sorry bud don't have that info available ATM.

    Usually I could tell you on Monday but I'm off to Cairns as of Sunday for a much deserved break.

    Not back until the 13th so can't update until 16th.

  • 2014-May-30, 8:37 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    I'm off to Cairns as of Sunday for a much deserved break.

    Enjoy yourself :D

  • 2014-May-30, 8:42 pm
    Meth

    Given how cold it's been here the last week I'll more than enjoy myself.

  • 2014-May-30, 8:42 pm
    Blacklisted72

    Cheers Mate, Have a good trip.

  • 2014-May-30, 8:45 pm
    Daniel:)

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/nbn-enhances-rollout-map.html

    The company building and operating Australia�s National Broadband Network is making available more information about the progress of the rollout.

    The interactive rollout map on the NBN Co website now displays the communities in the fixed-line footprint where �Build Preparation� is taking place.

    These areas are shaded green on the map. They signify that contractors in built-up (or brownfields) areas are carrying out pre-construction activities � for instance readying Telstra�s pits and pipes for use by NBN Co � ahead of the physical construction of the NBN.

  • 2014-May-30, 8:45 pm
    sdokeefe

    No green in my area, but I did get an email from Telstra saying they were doing some maintenance in my area.

  • linoc

    Meth writes...

    11 meter run of optic cable from Da22 to the exchange < > solve the problem of some 1200 households for ADSL2+ standards.

    Would those in that area be permitted to pool together the required dollars to fund it?

  • Meth

    Rocked upto a mates in Allnutt St Mandurah the other day, copper had failed from pit to house, Telstra issued 3rd party to fix fault, ran a cable _ABOVE_ ground and through front fly screen and closed the job as fixed.....

    Telstra's real field techs are to busy in Mandurah with NBN related design and it seems these 3rd party legwork guys are useless.

    I currently spend half my days dealing with escalated faults arriving from the work these 3rd party's are doing, exact polar opposite of why they are being contracted.

  • 2014-Jul-16, 3:42 pm
    Bad News Bear

    linoc writes...

    Would those in that area be permitted to pool together the required dollars to fund it?

    I doubt it. Even if the funds were raised there'd still be the matter of Telstra being willing to allocate labour-related resources.

  • 2014-Jul-16, 3:42 pm
    Ballterror

    Built a full sub exchange and refused to run a 11 meter cable run, estimated 2500 homes without any ADSL connection

    I'm close to this exchange and currently connected at 23Mb, didn't know how lucky I was, I guess a few blocks away might have been a different story.

    Thanks again for the info Meth.

  • 2014-Jul-16, 6:08 pm
    Warooda

    Telstra doing all sorts of things to annoy connected Australians..

    Like shutting the TopHat program early... 1 month out from our Rim getting upgraded..

  • 2014-Jul-16, 6:08 pm
    Meth
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    This is getting a little OT from NBN, but the TopHat program was a great win for end users, it makes _ZERO_ sense for Telstra to continue rolling out TopHats anymore.

    I find it amusing that people are bagging Telstra about not investing with the NBN rollout active, maybe direct your comments to Service Stream / Syntheo, they are the ones running _2 years_ behind on a project 3 years old.

    Even Telstra can't compete with such incompetence on that scale.

    On a much brighter note the Downer crew are fantastic, they must have some great performance based bonus schemes the way the workers are handling things.

  • 2014-Jul-16, 6:59 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Meth writes...

    I find it amusing that people are bagging Telstra about not investing with the NBN rollout active, maybe direct your comments to Service Stream / Syntheo, they are the ones running _2 years_ behind on a project 3 years old.

    One doesn't preclude the other. Telstra's hesitance to improve ADSL connection conditions in general is understandable from a business perspective, but it's acutely aware of how much work is being done in FSAMs, so leaving people with sub-par ADSL connections in some cases for more than two years because "the NBN is coming" obviously isn't going to sit well with some. Certainly, though, the larger fault lies with Syntheo and to an extent NBN Co � the former for doing literally no work in many FSAMs and the latter for seemingly making absolutely no effort to course-correct. Can't exactly blame Service Stream for basically taking the money and running when no penalties were being imposed for sloppy performance.

    But, hey, there's no use in crying over spilled milk. As you suggest, what's important is that Downer has picked up Syntheo's slack and then some.

  • 2014-Jul-16, 6:59 pm
    Kyprioth

    I'm not any kind of expert analyst on business or telecommunications but from my everyday man's perspective I see it like this.

    The public might not have been as hard done by as badly by Telstra as they have been by Syntheo in the last 3 years, but they have been jerking us around for a lot longer.

    I do acknowledge however that it's silly to blame Telstra for things somebody else messed up.

  • 2014-Jul-17, 12:27 pm
    Biscuits

    Must be nice to live everywhere except Lakelands..

  • 2014-Jul-17, 12:27 pm
    sdokeefe

    Greenfields is missing out as well,

  • Meth

    6MDR 05/6/7/8 all waiting, been plenty of work in 07/08 recently.

    I wouldn't expect any new CI's to be issued for awhile, 6MSP4, 6MDR4 and Pinjarra all under builds.

  • Biscuits

    Thanks Mr Turnbull. Twice Lakelands was 3 months away from commencement.

    Now we are the quarantined area on the rollout map.

  • Meth

    Here's a teaser.... I spotted roughly 50 FDH cabinets today in their wrapping, they had numbers on them :) 6MDR-?? ;)

  • Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    6MDR-?? ;)

    pls be 6MDR-07

  • 2014-Jul-21, 5:45 am
    crimsondawn

    They apparently began work in Greenfields back in 2012. What a let down.

  • 2014-Jul-21, 5:45 am
    Biscuits

    I'm hearing you. I only bought in Lakelands because it was inside the "12 month" bubble.

    3 months out it got removed due to NBNco stuff up.

    Then 3 months out the second time, change of government.....

  • 2014-Jul-21, 1:47 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    crimsondawn writes...

    They apparently began work in Greenfields back in 2012. What a let down.

    When an area became flagged as "Construction Commenced" under the Labor-run NBN Co, all it meant was that council approval had been granted � the little note on the rollout map of the time that the "average" wait time between CC and RFS was 12 months was a complete and utter joke that held true in only several cases. There's no doubt in my mind that the definition of "Construction Commenced" was deliberately broad � excessively so � so as to make what was a problem-plagued rollout appear just that little bit better.

    But of course I don't mean to suggest that the Coalition-run NBN Co has been all sunshine and roses. Ditching Construction Commenced in favour of the far more accurate Build Commenced and later adding Build Preparation into the mix are probably the only good things that have been implemented since the election, although the latter should kick in a little earlier, at the detailed design phase rather than the remediation phase.

  • 2014-Jul-21, 1:47 pm
    rtayman

    Anyone in Mandurah thinking of getting TPG for NBN,
    go here,
    http://www.tpg.com.au/nbn/rollout
    then click on WA. It gives the, Fibre Serving Region, Locality and Planned Activation Date for Mandurah.

  • 2014-Jul-21, 2:13 pm
    linoc

    Biscuits writes...

    Must be nice to live everywhere except Lakelands..

    sdokeefe writes...

    Greenfields is missing out as well,

    Even if you had the line/service available in your street/area....

    I've had it sitting in the pit out the front of my house since January (6MDR-02) and still waiting for the crew to connect me
    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2272072

  • 2014-Jul-21, 2:13 pm
    Biscuits

    But at least it is there.

    The only thing in Lakelands' pits is oxidisation.

  • 2014-Aug-4, 9:26 pm
    Meth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    ...that's not what Warooda was told (emphasis mine):

    The context of the discussion was the likelihood of Parklands receiving fibre; Warooda's comment implies that NBN Co had sought access but was knocked back.

    Main part there is to far from FSAM, PTA access isn't the be and end of everything. More than 1 way to skin a rabbit.

  • 2014-Aug-4, 9:26 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Meth writes...

    Main part there is to far from FSAM, PTA access isn't the be and end of everything. More than 1 way to skin a rabbit.

    Sure, but all I'm getting at is that the response he received suggests that connecting Parklands using the conduits that run under the railway line would have been an option if access were permitted.

    Edit: Moving on, weeks ago I spotted a Telstra bloke poking about the footpath opposite the roundabout on Crystaluna Drive and earlier today noticed that there's now a small construction barrier there. Did the council pave over a pit? :p

  • Meth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    Edit: Moving on, weeks ago I spotted a Telstra bloke poking about the footpath opposite the roundabout on Crystaluna Drive and earlier today noticed that there's now a small construction barrier there. Did the council pave over a pit? :p

    Crystaluna Drive the one were Shell is on the corner? If so ahahaha BALLS UP, all I can say.

  • Bad News Bear

    Meth writes...

    Crystaluna Drive the one were Shell is on the corner? If so ahahaha BALLS UP, all I can say.

    Nah, that's Singleton Beach Road. Crystluna Drive is the next left-hand entry point a little further up the highway, just near the traffic lights that lead to the freeway. I might take a small detour tomorrow. ;)

  • 2014-Aug-4, 10:20 pm
    zx9john
    this post was edited

    Bad News Bear writes...

    The context of the discussion was the likelihood of Parklands receiving fibre; Warooda's comment implies that NBN Co had sought access but was knocked back.

    Dude, if Warooda is in Parklands and he/she applied for a network extension (assumed from 6MSP-03) it's no wonder that NBN Co replied with a knock back.

    That area is within a FW zone and a fibre extension would cross the rail line, not run up OR down it.

    p.s. drill shots happen under/across the rail line all the time and the PTA has nothing legislated to block them. Use of their conduits or installing 'your' counduits inside their land/easement/corridors are a completely separate & commercial matter)

  • 2014-Aug-4, 10:20 pm
    Warooda

    zx9john writes...

    That area is within a FW zone and a fibre extension would cross the rail line, not run up OR down it.

    Warooda writes...

    The wireless tower is hitting about 30% of the suburb, I'm on the wrong side of the hill to take advantage of it.

    I think I will be stuck in adsl 1 rim hell for a while.

  • hiddenace

    Meth writes...

    the one were Shell is on the corner? If so ahahaha BALLS UP, all I can say.

    I think that's Dampier Dr. Are you sure you can't say any more? *nudge, nudge* we're all friends here... :)

  • Meth

    zx9john writes...

    p.s. drill shots happen under/across the rail line all the time and the PTA has nothing legislated to block them. Use of their conduits or installing 'your' counduits inside their land/easement/corridors are a completely separate & commercial matter)

    This refers to when I said more than one way to skin a rabbit, worked with pits running under before

  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    zx9john writes...

    Dude, if Warooda is in Parklands and he/she applied for a network extension (assumed from 6MSP-03) it's no wonder that NBN Co replied with a knock back.

    That area is within a FW zone and a fibre extension would cross the rail line, not run up OR down it.

    p.s. drill shots happen under/across the rail line all the time and the PTA has nothing legislated to block them. Use of their conduits or installing 'your' counduits inside their land/easement/corridors are a completely separate & commercial matter)

    Please, don't be condescendingly obtuse. You know very well that I wasn't disputing Warooda's extension request being knocked back. I said NBN Co can't use the PTA conduits; you said I misspoke; I quoted Warooda's post and emphasised the pertinent point, explaining why I came to conclusion that I did (twice). Nothing more, nothing less.

    hiddenace writes...

    I think that's Dampier Dr. Are you sure you can't say any more? *nudge, nudge* we're all friends here... :)

    Dampier Drive is the entrance past Crystaluna Drive, which itself is past Singleton Beach Road (assuming you're travelling north). SBR is where the servo is.

  • jaxx10

    "I think I will be stuck in adsl 1 rim hell for a while"

    Yeah, I feel your pain :-(
    (Neighbouring Stake Hill resident.)

  • 2014-Aug-5, 5:45 am
    Warooda

    jaxx10 writes...

    Yeah, I feel your pain :-(
    (Neighbouring Stake Hill resident.)

    Try an extension application, see what they say..they might just say you'll get fixed wireless...at least I'm close to my rim.. I think stake hill doesn't even have that?

    My discussion with nbnco was attempting to get them to run the cable from the new lakelands development under mandjoogoorup drive as the shortest route to me. As the land is owned by the PTA as is the underpass, so they declined my application.

    Apart from driving my fire truck into the rim next time we have a bush fire out this way I'm at a loss as what to try next...

  • 2014-Aug-5, 5:45 am
    hiddenace

    I saw a few more pits dug out along Dampier Dr on my way to work this morning. No workers, though.

  • 2014-Aug-5, 9:08 am
    hiddenace

    Bad News Bear writes...

    Dampier Drive is the entrance past Crystaluna Drive, which itself is past Singleton Beach Road (assuming you're travelling north). SBR is where the servo is.

    True � I was thinking of the other Shell Servo opposite Dampier Dr � I drive past it every day on my way to work, and completely ignore the one in Singleton. sorry for the confusion.

  • 2014-Aug-5, 9:08 am
    Daniel:)

    I saw people surveying down steerforth yesterday also some telstra guys at some pits along side lakes road across the road from the old peoples home

  • Meth
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    blazin1414 writes...

    I saw people surveying down steerforth yesterday also some telstra guys at some pits along side lakes road across the road from the old peoples home

    They had to return to re-survey for NBN but just because their was confusion about the big power conduite sticking up out of the roundabout on Wanjeep/Steerforth. We have no idea why it's there or where it goes........

  • Meth

    Warooda writes...

    Apart from driving my fire truck into the rim next time we have a bush fire out this way I'm at a loss as what to try next...

    I in no way condone the following actions, but try lighting the RIM on fire and maybe your response time could be somewhat slow??

    On a side not are you a Vol Firey?? I'm thinking about joining up.

  • Meth

    hiddenace writes...

    I think that's Dampier Dr. Are you sure you can't say any more? *nudge, nudge* we're all friends here... :)

    Sorry, certain things I don't like to hang shit on people for, new crew out there, they just made a mistake.

    Dug wrong spot for a fair distance, but at the end of the day you can't blame the crew
    when foreman doesn't rock up, his job to oversee such things. No harm no foul.

  • Meth

    jaxx10 writes...

    "I think I will be stuck in adsl 1 rim hell for a while"

    Hey I'm rolling it out and stuck on at ADSL1 speed, 5032meter run though at 7.4mbps sync speeds though I'm not complaining.

  • hiddenace

    you can't blame the crew

    I agree. The poor blokes on the ground are always the first to cop the crap, but it's not always their fault.

  • Warooda

    Meth writes...

    On a side not are you a Vol Firey?? I'm thinking about joining up.

    I've been a Volly for 10 years now. I really enjoy it. Are you thinking Fire & Rescue or Bushfire?

    Each has its own level of commitment... I've been in Fire Services and Bushfire.

    PS I know this is not the right forum for this discussion..

    But, hypothetically if the rim was to burst into flames, wouldn't they just put it back the same way?? They wouldn't top hat it just because they were there??

  • 2014-Aug-22, 4:59 pm
    Meth

    Ok so there was a trial connection (perm) made to a house in 6MDR-04 today, don't know how they where selected or got it ticked off but someone on Fortescue is running a active Fibre connect.

  • 2014-Aug-22, 4:59 pm
    Meth

    So looks like I was wrong, 6MDR-05 up for build prep next. Public confirmation from NBNCo mid next month.

  • 2014-Aug-22, 7:12 pm
    sdokeefe

    YES!!!!!!

    Please let it be my part of 05!

  • 2014-Aug-22, 7:12 pm
    Meth

    sdokeefe writes...

    YES!!!!!!

    Please let it be my part of 05!

    All of 05

  • 2014-Aug-22, 7:50 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    So looks like I was wrong, 6MDR-05 up for build prep next.

    grrrrrr so 07 will most likely wait for 05-06 to be done?

  • 2014-Aug-22, 7:50 pm
    crimsondawn

    How long do you normally wait from then until connect time?

  • 2014-Aug-22, 7:57 pm
    crimsondawn

    numerical order is fine by me :)

  • 2014-Aug-22, 7:57 pm
    Meth

    Yer seems that's the way NBNCo is going to go with it....

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:03 pm
    Bad News Bear

    crimsondawn writes...

    How long do you normally wait from then until connect time?

    Depends on how much work needs to be done. Here's some recent data:

    6GLT-04: Moved to Build Commenced in April, currently scheduled to go live in February (10 months + preparation time)
    6VIC-05: Moved to Build Commenced in May, currently scheduled to go live in in November (6 months + preparation time)
    6MDR-04: Moved to Build Commenced in May, currently scheduled to go live in in November (6 months + preparation time)
    6APP-01: Moved to Build Commenced in June, currently scheduled to go live in January (7 months + preparation time)
    6PNJ-01: Appeared as Build Preparation in June, moved to Build Commenced in August, currently scheduled to go live in June (12 months in total)
    6PNJ-02: Appeared as Build Preparation in June, moved to Build Commenced in August, currently scheduled to live in July (13 months in total)

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:03 pm
    Ballterror

    Oh well, at least we know 07 should be after 06, might be a safe bet. In a few years we will all be connected. This news might cheer up zx9john.

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:04 pm
    crimsondawn

    Thanks Bear :). Reckon I can hang that long.

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:04 pm
    Millsb0mb

    Meth writes...

    So looks like I was wrong, 6MDR-05 up for build prep next. Public confirmation from NBNCo mid next month.

    Woohooo that has made my night. Exciting times :)

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:04 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Meth writes...

    So looks like I was wrong, 6MDR-05 up for build prep next. Public confirmation from NBNCo mid next month.

    New build contracts are being issued next month, right? Will 6MSP-04 move to Build Commenced or will the newly-issued contracts not be reflected until October?

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:04 pm
    zx9john

    Ballterror writes...

    Oh well, at least we know 07 should be after 06, might be a safe bet. In a few years we will all be connected. This news might cheer up zx9john.

    I wasn't "cheered down" to start with thou.... well not in relation to 6MDR/6MSP anyway � the FSA I live in is a completely different area of Perth.

    I just wanted stress that rope isn't really a sign of imminent build and to hint, as it's now come out, FSAM05 was before 07

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:11 pm
    Ballterror

    zx9john writes...

    I wasn't "cheered down" to start with thou....

    Ah I see, you mean that kind of Greenfields. Sorry I read Greenfields in the Mandurah Thread and took a guess you where in 05.

  • 2014-Aug-22, 8:11 pm
    Meth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    New build contracts are being issued next month, right? Will 6MSP-04 move to Build Commenced or will the newly-issued contracts not be reflected until October?

    6MDR-05 from what I'm seeing work orders being issued for will see the next 6MDR move to build prep, mid next month I'd expect to see it added to rollout map. I highly doubt it will be the following month.

  • Meth

    Ballterror writes...

    Oh well, at least we know 07 should be after 06, might be a safe bet. In a few years we will all be connected. This news might cheer up zx9john.

    07 will happen, I live in 07, I'll modify work orders and install myself if the need arises hahaha.

  • Meth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    New build contracts are being issued next month, right? Will 6MSP-04 move to Build Commenced or will the newly-issued contracts not be reflected until October?

    I was on the ground doing _some_ work in 6MSP 04&05 last week, would have got a lot more done if I didn't bog the truck.... Honestly I don't think 04 is ready for build commenced till October. Next 2 weeks will be spent on ground in Pinjarra then I dare say Ravenswood.

  • 2014-Aug-22, 10:35 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    I live in 07, I'll modify work orders and install myself if the need

    You are free to come and do my house ;) haha

  • 2014-Aug-22, 10:35 pm
    Ballterror

    Meth writes...

    I'll modify work orders and install myself if the need arises hahaha.

    Sounds good to me.

  • Jackie Treehorn

    Awesome thanks for that! Last time I looked I thought we were going to miss out with the change of government.

    Yes, 6MSP-04 covers Singleton and Golden Bay proper (the Golden Bay estate is a separate greenfields rollout).

  • Millsb0mb

    Has there been any news on the next Area to start work on?

  • 2014-Sep-16, 1:21 pm
    sTeeL.

    If I move into the current NBN Coverage area, is there any chance I WONT be able to get fibre?

    A few of the places I am looking out are townhouses or potentially units. This is important to me and will affect where I choose to live.

  • 2014-Sep-16, 1:21 pm
    Enilyks_

    sTeeL. writes...

    A few of the places I am looking out are townhouses or potentially units. This is important to me and will affect where I choose to live.

    My brother inlaw lives in apartments on Mandurah Terrace (near the old ten pin bowling) and NBN has been installed with fibre termination boxes installed above the door ways to have a internal NTD installed but NBN have said that it will be some months until someone comes back to do a inspection and test on all fibre points before anyone is allowed to order the service.

    There does not appear to be any rush to get this done.

  • 2014-Sep-16, 2:37 pm
    sTeeL.

    Ac3R writes...

    There does not appear to be any rush to get this done.

    Thanks. I was looking at a few on Mandurah Terrace, however I wont be moving till December/January so this may still end up an option. I guess once I find a place, I should call either an RSP or NBNCo directly.

  • 2014-Sep-16, 2:37 pm
    sTeeL.

    I have another question. Do I have to pay some sort of major connection fee if its the first time the NBN will be established at the premises?

  • 2014-Sep-16, 2:43 pm
    Bad News Bear

    sTeeL. writes...

    I have another question. Do I have to pay some sort of major connection fee if its the first time the NBN will be established at the premises?

    Installation fees are waived while the rollout is underway (the rollout as whole, that is, not just in your area) unless your desired installation isn't considered standard (see section 4.7.3 of this document for the definition of a standard installation).

  • 2014-Sep-16, 2:43 pm
    Rayleyne

    Anyone have any info on dawsville? I see fixed wireless creeping in on the current rollout maps, And i swear to god if i get Fixed wireless, I will probably murder kittens

  • 2014-Sep-16, 2:45 pm
    Daniel:)

    Hey meth, is 07 still good to go? :)

  • 2014-Sep-16, 2:45 pm
    Meth

    Hey look at that, 3:30pm on a Friday and I'm home ...... miracles do happen.

    Yer 07 will go ahead, we are lacking fibre techs, major recruitment drive now ongoing but all the certification and bridging bs NBNCo throw at contractors even qualified techs would be 4 weeks away if they took the job today.

    I spend more time starting a green spools of cables or FDH cabinets than what I do my dog or my mrs.

    I've been in Ravenswood most of the week, my prediction was rite no new Build CI's issued this month, I do expect 6MDR-05 to enter remediation on NBNCo's list on the 15th of next month.

    I've done work in the last fortnight in 6MDR-05/6/7.

  • 2014-Sep-17, 11:23 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    Hey look at that, 3:30pm on a Friday and I'm home ...... miracles do happen.

    Yer 07 will go ahead, we are lacking fibre techs, major recruitment drive now ongoing but all the certification and bridging bs NBNCo throw at contractors even qualified techs would be 4 weeks away if they took the job today.

    Awesome! you're doing a good job, thanks again for the insight. :)

  • 2014-Sep-17, 11:23 pm
    Millsb0mb

    I did see two guys pulling blue rope through some pits on Lakes road today around 13:00.

  • 2014-Sep-18, 4:34 pm
    Meth

    Guess who's crew is running fibre the length of Wanjeep Street today and down Beacham Street.

    4 terravacs, 4 haul crews.

  • 2014-Sep-18, 4:34 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    Guess who's crew is running fibre the length of Wanjeep Street today and down Beacham Street.

    4 terravacs, 4 haul crews.

    :o that's awesome, I'm guessing the fibre will split off to all the off streets from wanjeep?

  • 2014-Sep-18, 9:44 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    What's not so awesome is the massive delays that have hit (I just posted this in the Pinjarra thread but it bears repeating here):

    6VIC-05: November 2014 -> March 2015 (4 months)
    6MDR-04: November 2014 -> May 2015 (6 months)
    6APP-01: January 2015 -> August 2015 (7 months)
    6PNJ-01: June 2015 -> Q4 2015 (4-6 months)
    6PNJ-02: July 2015 -> Q4 2015 (3-5 months)

    This is approaching Syntheo levels, from a completion time perspective. If Downer and co. continue spreading themselves thin and can't get more people on the ground, there's no way any FSAMs that are currently in Build Prep. are going live before 2016.

  • 2014-Sep-18, 9:44 pm
    Meth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    6VIC-05: November 2014 -> March 2015 (4 months)
    6MDR-04: November 2014 -> May 2015 (6 months)
    6APP-01: January 2015 -> August 2015 (7 months)
    6PNJ-01: June 2015 -> Q4 2015 (4-6 months)
    6PNJ-02: July 2015 -> Q4 2015 (3-5 months)

    Part of 6MDR-04 is RFS.

    I posted in Pinjarra thread no chance of making the deadline.

    It's not a Downer problem, it's a simple fact of not enough Fibre Techs.

  • 2014-Sep-18, 10:33 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Meth writes...

    It's not a Downer problem, it's a simple fact of not enough Fibre Techs.

    Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Downer's pulling a Syntheo and accepting work it has no intention of completing. ;)

  • 2014-Sep-18, 10:33 pm
    Meth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Downer's pulling a Syntheo and accepting work it has no intention of completing. ;)

    If there's any finger pointing to be done, point towards NBNCo after Syntheo laid off all their Fibre tech apprenticeships they had running there was always going to be a point when things ramped up and shortage of trained fibre techs were available.

    Welcome to today, sending out apprenticeship offers now, hahaha great that's really going to reduce my workload. Another 3 years and they'll be ready to go.

  • 2014-Sep-19, 5:53 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Meth writes...

    If there's any finger pointing to be done, point towards NBNCo after Syntheo laid off all their Fibre tech apprenticeships they had running there was always going to be a point when things ramped up and shortage of trained fibre techs were available.

    Welcome to today, sending out apprenticeship offers now, hahaha great that's really going to reduce my workload. Another 3 years and they'll be ready to go.

    I was implicitly pointing the finger at NBN Co in my original post. That's why I said "... spreading themselves thin" and not "... doing stuff all" � it's not the contracted companies' fault that NBN Co is going ahead with more FSAMs despite the clear evidence that what work there currently is, is too much. The Libs are making the exact same mistake Labor did: thrusting more work upon a thinly-spread workforce for the sake of making numbers go up, completing ignoring the effect this will have on premises passed and premises connected figures going forward.

  • 2014-Sep-19, 5:53 pm
    bla74

    Greetings all!

    I've been quietly watching this thread, being in the 07 area. Quite happy to see the stuff rolling out down Wanjeep, and the other half noticed some Telstra guys doing something down our street off Birchley yesterday as well.

    Is there a general rule of thumb about how long it is after fibre is actually pulled before we can go to an ISP for a connection? Not sure if this info is posted somewhere else, I don't browse the forums here that often.

  • 2014-Sep-26, 12:58 pm
    Ballterror

    Meth writes...

    I walk my dog past those same covers at placid waters each day.

    I know this is going to sound bloody creepy but we used to walk our dog past them as well every day, only stopped going that way recently because of the snakes coming out.

    A few dudes going up the other side of our street today doing something in each pit, couldn't quite see what they were doing. They were running something between pits.

  • 2014-Sep-26, 12:58 pm
    Meth

    Ballterror writes...

    A few dudes going up the other side of our street today doing something in each pit, couldn't quite see what they were doing. They were running something between pits.

    Running rope.

  • 2014-Sep-26, 1:11 pm
    Blacklisted72

    WooHoo, their out in the street now setting up and pulling rope.

  • 2014-Sep-26, 1:11 pm
    Meth

    Yer crews on Arabian Drive, Watson Avenue & Derek Road ATM, I just swung past and saw how things were going, I'm the guy in the White Ford Ranger today.

    Some people will be without copper services for 15 mins in Arabian Dr.

  • linoc

    Warooda writes...

    Some NBN Guys came into the office today to run the fibre to the premises. No-one told them that Civil haven't been to put the new conduit to the building yet...

    After ordering in January I had installers come out mid June (I took the day off work), said they couldn't feed the cable through existing conduit, would have to get another crew to come out and excavate for new conduit.

    A month later I took another day off work, 4 guys turned up in two vans to do the same job, told them the other (1st) guys said it needed excavation/new conduit etc, they told me the digger was just down the road finishing off another job, that they'd come back in around an hour with it, never seen them again.

    Since then I've had another two separate installers phone to confirm their coming out the following day, another (3rd) who phoned me last Thursday advising his at my front gate (I was at work), all of them having been mucked around by being provided a work order/ticket to do the internal install, I then having to advise them of the excavation/conduit issue.

    I believe these poor buggers only get paid by the completed job (contracted), us end users aren't the only ones being mucked around, they have motor vehicle, phone and other costs, there's no competition, no accountability....

  • GBE

    Gee p;ease be careful what you wish for. I am in silver sands with Westnet 25/5 speed and that is not fast I can assure you and that is a $100 a month with the totally useless phone option. We cancelled.

  • 2014-Sep-26, 2:08 pm
    DingoChild

    I have looked into the pit and seen that the rope is inside with another black cable.

    what is the usual construction method and timelapse (approx) for each individual stage?

  • 2014-Sep-26, 2:08 pm
    Daniel:)

    DingoChild writes...

    what is the usual construction method and timelapse (approx) for each individual stage?

    I'm keen to know this too, also are we expecting an update on the 15th?

  • 2014-Sep-27, 12:05 pm
    Meth

    blazin1414 writes...

    I'm keen to know this too, also are we expecting an update on the 15th?

    I predict 06 for remediation map on the 15th, even tho 07 has started I doubt it will make the maps.

    Be assured though 07 is def in build prep even if the website won't show it.

  • 2014-Sep-27, 12:05 pm
    Ballterror

    Meth writes...

    I predict 06 for remediation map on the 15th

    Hello Meth, any info on how all the area's are going, do you still think 06 will make it this week? Thanks

  • 2014-Sep-28, 5:19 pm
    Daniel:)

    Hmmm looks like the map didn't change at all. Well as you said meth, hopefully everything is fine even if the map doesn't show much. Fingers crossed for us all haha.

  • 2014-Sep-28, 5:19 pm
    DingoChild

    I hope to see results on the map soon.

    I have gone up to the pits and taken some photos (Watson Drive) and I have noticed blue cabling which is meant to be the fiber. Does this mean that remediation has been complete and it is ready to be distributed to the residents of that street?

    Also what does it mean by having Optus on the pit lids, is it just because they've done the construction in this area?

    Link to images.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/128002578@N07/

  • sdokeefe

    Looking at building in Austin Lakes in a few years, any insight into fibre in that area?

  • sdokeefe

    Crikey, Greenfields just turned green on the map.

  • 2014-Oct-6, 6:34 pm
    DingoChild
    this post was edited

    So I guess that Watson Drive will be delayed further? -.-

  • 2014-Oct-6, 6:34 pm
    Millsb0mb

    YAY build Prep in 6MDR-05. That has made my Monday morning :)

  • 2014-Oct-6, 7:01 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    DingoChild writes...

    I have noticed blue cabling which is meant to be the fiber.

    I doubt this is NBN its normally green. What area are you in?

    Also what does it mean by having Optus on the pit lids

    I have these in Halls Head and they serve to run Optus Mobile phone masts, could be the same for you.

  • 2014-Oct-6, 7:01 pm
    Meth

    06 & 07 are both under build prep to, even if not listed on NBNCo maps, 05 is actually under construction not build prep.

    I don't understand the delays on NBNCo maps. I have paperwork for all of these areas.

  • 2014-Oct-13, 9:51 am
    DingoChild

    bruce67 writes...

    I doubt this is NBN its normally green. What area are you in?

    I had looked up on the internet and found this: http://riaus.org.au/articles/what-does-the-nbn-look-like/
    This is the reason why I thought it was blue /= (May have gone full retard).
    I live on Watson Drive Barragup 6209

    I have these in Halls Head and they serve to run Optus Mobile phone masts, could be the same for you.

    Shit. lel

  • 2014-Oct-13, 9:51 am
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    06 & 07 are both under build prep to, even if not listed on NBNCo maps, 05 is actually under construction not build prep.

    Hope 07 isn't far behind 06 for construction :)

  • Meth

    Mesmus writes...

    This is bullshit honestly.

    Really??, funny I should know.....

    More Build CI's have been issued in Geraldton/Mandurah/Pinjarra Region than the _WHOLE_ of metro WA.

    Let's not let fact's get in the way of this though huh??

    These regions were selected due to their size as a trial for the Perth Metro rollout, which now if not on a 1 year plan in metro Perth will be completely FTTN...

  • linoc

    Mesmus writes...

    Are you telling me Mandurah is having priority over Perth metro suburbs?

    Whilst we regional folks (who also pay taxes) do choose to live outside of the metro hustle & bustle, including its facilities, we got ADSL (from dial-up) loonnggg after metro areas, some are still on very poor +1, Some only have 3G available.

    Currently, some in newly built homes can't get a standard phone line installed because the NBN install is "APPARENTLY" not far away.

    Telstra disconnected my neighbours landline service 6weeks ago due to believing their NBN was being connected the following day, their still waiting, having to use their mobile phones for hotspot etc.

  • 2014-Oct-30, 8:43 pm
    VoodooMeatBucket

    Meth writes...

    These regions were selected due to their size as a trial for the Perth Metro rollout, which now if not on a 1 year plan in metro Perth will be completely FTTN...

    Yeah well looks like we finally got action in Ravenswood. The RIM is at capacity here and has been for a while. I was lucky to be able to get ADSL 1. It only really works properly after 9pm. Took me 4 tries to post this this morning.

    I whole heartedly agree about nothing happening elsewhere. No orders issued in the Northern or Eastern suburbs. There needs to be more boots on the ground...

  • 2014-Oct-30, 8:43 pm
    VoodooMeatBucket

    Meth writes...

    These regions were selected due to their size as a trial for the Perth Metro rollout, which now if not on a 1 year plan in metro Perth will be completely FTTN...

    Yeah well looks like we finally got action in Ravenswood. The RIM is at capacity here and has been for a while. I was lucky to be able to get ADSL 1. It only really works properly after 9pm. Took me 4 tries to post this this morning.

    I whole heartedly agree about nothing happening elsewhere. No orders issued in the Northern or Eastern suburbs. There needs to be more boots on the ground...

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:48 am
    VoodooMeatBucket

    Meth writes...

    These regions were selected due to their size as a trial for the Perth Metro rollout, which now if not on a 1 year plan in metro Perth will be completely FTTN...

    Yeah well looks like we finally got action in Ravenswood. The RIM is at capacity here and has been for a while. I was lucky to be able to get ADSL 1. It only really works properly after 9pm. Took me 4 tries to post this this morning.

    I whole heartedly agree about nothing happening elsewhere. No orders issued in the Northern or Eastern suburbs. There needs to be more boots on the ground...

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:48 am
    VoodooMeatBucket

    Meth writes...

    These regions were selected due to their size as a trial for the Perth Metro rollout, which now if not on a 1 year plan in metro Perth will be completely FTTN...

    Yeah well looks like we finally got action in Ravenswood. The RIM is at capacity here and has been for a while. I was lucky to be able to get ADSL 1. It only really works properly after 9pm. Took me 4 tries to post this this morning.

    I whole heartedly agree about nothing happening elsewhere. No orders issued in the Northern or Eastern suburbs. There needs to be more boots on the ground...

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:51 am
    Enilyks_

    VoodooMeatBucket writes...

    Took me 4 tries to post this this morning

    Oh no your posts worked LOL.

    Yes Ravo (6PNJ-02) is underway and after talking to NBN officials, there is also a probability (due to better infrastructure and less prep time) that it will be online before Pinjarra =(

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:51 am
    Daniel:)

    Hey meth anything new with 07? haven't really seen much around lately.

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:54 am
    Meth

    Daniel:) writes...

    Hey meth anything new with 07? haven't really seen much around lately.

    Ropping and Rodding is now completed in 07... Pit remediation crews from 6PNJ and 6MDR-05 will start flowing into 06&07 in ~4/8 weeks.

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:54 am
    Meth

    Ac3R writes...

    Yes Ravo (6PNJ-02) is underway and after talking to NBN officials, there is also a probability (due to better infrastructure and less prep time) that it will be online before Pinjarra =(

    Given SC2 requirements now, no doubt.

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:55 am
    VoodooMeatBucket

    Ac3R writes...

    Oh no your posts worked LOL.

    Yeah congestion before 7am... Ravo is RIM hell...

  • 2014-Oct-31, 8:55 am
    crimsondawn

    Where I am in Greenfields is getting worse too.
    I can get 15Mbps download in the AM, but down to 1.5Mbps in the early evening :(

  • 2014-Oct-31, 12:24 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    Ropping and Rodding is now completed in 07... Pit remediation crews from 6PNJ and 6MDR-05 will start flowing into 06&07 in ~4/8 weeks.

    Thanks meth :)

  • 2014-Oct-31, 12:24 pm
    VoodooMeatBucket

    crimsondawn writes...

    Where I am in Greenfields is getting worse too.
    I can get 15Mbps download in the AM, but down to 1.5Mbps in the early evening :(

    I have been trying to browse for the last hour but I just get time out after time out.... Looks like it might be coming back but it took about 30secs to load this page...

    C'mon NBN!

    Edit... Timed out... 2nd try worked and no quadruple post at least this time...

  • 2014-Oct-31, 12:29 pm
    Millsb0mb

    I haven't had any issues in 05 yet. Im sure it will happen once they start doing work in my area?

  • 2014-Oct-31, 12:29 pm
    sTeeL.

    I had some words regarding the Townhouse Complex for 28 Davey Street in Mandurah. I was told that everything is hooked up as of April this year and is currently awaiting QA.

    The tech I spoke to from NBN(very helpful informative chap) said that this process can take up to 12 months. Getting in contact with the strata owners is probably the best bet he said but because I am not currently a tenant, I cannot get that information from the realtor dealing with this property.

    I was wondering if anyone here might have an idea or know some information regarding this particular block?

  • 2014-Oct-31, 6:45 pm
    Millsb0mb

    Just drove past Bedingfield Road in Greenfields and noticed almost all the pits for a few blocks were being worked on.

  • 2014-Oct-31, 6:45 pm
    Biscuits

    Notice on the NBN 3 year rollout .pdf.

    Lakelands is back in the install plan. Falls under Secret Harbour.

    No indication of when though

  • 2014-Oct-31, 6:48 pm
    t N j

    Millsb0mb writes...

    Just drove past Bedingfield Road in Greenfields and noticed almost all the pits for a few blocks were being worked on.

    Nice, that's the first work I have seen in the Riverside Gardens side for about 2 years now :P

  • 2014-Oct-31, 6:48 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Biscuits writes...

    Notice on the NBN 3 year rollout .pdf.

    Lakelands is back in the install plan. Falls under Secret Harbour.

    No indication of when though

    Unless I've missed something, there is no new three-year rollout plan.

  • 2014-Nov-21, 8:41 pm
    Enilyks_

    Bad News Bear writes...

    6PNJ-01: Q4 2015 -> November 2015 (Unclear; anywhere from -1 month to +1 month)

    Still cant get over that is 12months from now before its RFS. Sux they changed the business rules that RFS will be stated when 95% premises past (meaning PCD installed on external walls).

    If they hadn't changed it could of been on NBN by Feb next year I think.

  • 2014-Nov-21, 8:41 pm
    Ballterror

    A nice big roll of Fibre on Hudson drive Mariners Cove. On top of a pit with NBN barricading.

  • 2014-Nov-23, 2:09 pm
    bindi

    We have a crew with a Terra vacuum truck going around our street in Halls Head opening up all the pits and doing something with the hoses and stuff-anyone know what they are doing?

  • 2014-Nov-23, 2:09 pm
    Daniel:)

    bindi writes...

    We have a crew with a Terra vacuum truck going around our street in Halls Head opening up all the pits and doing something with the hoses and stuff-anyone know what they are doing?

    Most likely cleaning the pits, when they did that where I live they came out a few days later and roped all the pits.

  • 2014-Nov-24, 2:02 pm
    zx9john

    bindi writes...

    We have a crew with a Terra vacuum truck going around our street in Halls Head opening up all the pits and doing something with the hoses and stuff-anyone know what they are doing?

    It's the cricket poo. Telstra has too many "chirping on line" faults.

  • 2014-Nov-24, 2:02 pm
    Meth

    You'll see ripping and ridding crews within the next 2 weeks. It's how the process goes.

    I'm out of the loop now but I know the policies still the same.

    Saw a post saying fibre running down roads in 07, I'll have to pull the pit out the front of mine when I get back from FIFO, yay swing ends Wednesday.

  • 2014-Nov-24, 2:22 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    Saw a post saying fibre running down roads in 07, I'll have to pull the pit out the front of mine when I get back from FIFO, yay swing ends Wednesday.

    Hopefully this is true, report back if you find anything interesting. Just a quick question would they haul down main streets like wanjeep then branch off to the side streets? how does it work. :)

  • 2014-Nov-24, 2:22 pm
    Faz

    Hi All, I am building on the end Island in Mariners cove and from what I can see at the moment the only option for Fiber is Fusenet.
    Would I be correct in assuming that this network will be separate to the NBN Fiber network? So this would give us more options?

    I hate that we have only one option and am hoping the the NBN will give us the flexibility to choose.

    Anyone?

    Cheers

  • 2014-Nov-24, 10:01 pm
    Ballterror

    Truck with a roll of Fibre being feed into a pit at the corner of Wanjeep and Beacham, no idea where its going.

  • 2014-Nov-24, 10:01 pm
    Millsb0mb

    Fuzenet don't look to be on the NBN RSP list (http://www.mynbn.info/rsp/list)

    So I can only assume they are doing it separately to the NBN or they are using it through someone else?

    NBN will give us a huge range of people (see the list above). As for the better providers its best to check on here as I wouldn't know as I will be going with iinet probably because they have always been good for me to deal with.

    Oh also did see some work being done with the pits around Riverside primary school today.

  • 2014-Nov-24, 10:52 pm
    zx9john

    Ballterror writes...

    Truck with a roll of Fibre being feed into a pit at the corner of Wanjeep and Beacham, no idea where its going.

    6PNJ-02

  • 2014-Nov-24, 10:52 pm
    Faz

    Thanks Millsb0mb, Yeah my guess/hope is that the NBN will be rolled out to us as a separate network.

    Either that or we dont get access to NBN at all?

    Arrrrggg I hope this isnt the case!

  • 2014-Nov-24, 11:34 pm
    Millsb0mb

    From what I can see on the nbnco website you are closer to having it then I am. All the islands are covered.

    That's awesome news for you :)

  • 2014-Nov-24, 11:34 pm
    epedizzle

    So im a little out of the loop here, Im wondering with the FTTP VS FTTN are older areas like meadow springs and some of central mandurah who were previously connected before this compromise was made going to be capable of higher speeds. Or perhaps the others were planned earlier too and will have same speeds.

    Sorry if it sounds stupid i dont really understand it all </3

  • 2014-Nov-25, 11:22 am
    Millsb0mb

    All of Mandurah is getting FttP. I expect the same with Meadow Springs. FttN from what I understand will only apply to places that have not had a FSAM assigned to it (If anyone can correct me if I am wrong here).

  • 2014-Nov-25, 11:22 am
    bruce67
    O.P.

    Millsb0mb writes...

    All of Mandurah is getting FttP

    We can only hope but 6HER (HallHead/ Seascapes to Dawesville) was on the old 1 year plan but never started. There is no guarantee it will be FTTP although common sense says it should � heres hoping ;)

  • 2014-Nov-25, 2:10 pm
    zx9john

    bruce67 writes...

    We can only hope but 6HER (HallHead/ Seascapes to Dawesville) was on the old 1 year plan but never started. There is no guarantee it will be FTTP although common sense says it should � heres hoping ;)

    If the copper down there looks anything like the rest of Mandurah, it's going to HAVE to be FTTP � lolz

  • 2014-Nov-25, 2:10 pm
    Meth

    zx9john writes...

    If the copper down there looks anything like the rest of Mandurah, it's going to HAVE to be FTTP � lolz

    Actually the copper in Mandurah is actually really good, I know this sounds stupid, but its all old good gauge stuff.

    I'm 4.5-5.1km from Mandurah Exchange and I get 7000/384 Sync on a Attenuation 29 dB Upload , 49 dB Download.

    Main problem is Telstra not upgrading backhaul, but this is understandable, why would ya spend money upgrading backhaul when everyone will be switching over to NBN

  • t N j

    I agree everyone in Mandurah has outstanding copper, compared with most of Sydney and Melbourne in particular. The main issue in Mandurah is congestion..

    Spotted A hire ute with a trailer that had a thick(10-20mm) cable on a spindle pulled up to a pit on Teranca Road in Greenfields yesterday.

  • zx9john

    Meth writes...

    but its all old good gauge stuff.

    Yeah, rotting in the ground because they've been ringbarking cables below joints instead of remaking them and using plastic bags instead of joints.

    Found one the other day that didn't even have a bag, it was just a rats nest of wire and scotchies in the bottom of wet pit.

    All that matters is points, right?

  • 2014-Nov-29, 11:14 am
    Meth

    zx9john writes...

    Yeah, rotting in the ground because they've been ringbarking cables below joints instead of remaking them and using plastic bags instead of joints.

    Usually work carried out by contractors, they couldn't give a toss... Most of the work carried out by Telstra techs is usually fairly solid.

  • 2014-Nov-29, 11:14 am
    zx9john

    Meth writes...

    Most of the work carried out by Telstra techs is usually fairly solid.

    I'd tend to disagree � the only ones who seem to get quality audited are contractors and not too many companies stay in business spending time going back to fix F.U.'s

    Internal QA, on the other hand, generates HR issues & that causes lots of squeaky wheels so it gets frowned upon.

    And when unions get involved or someone brings up obvious things like lack of training & the "I'm just following instructions" line it's easier to do 10 bodge job's a day than one job properly.

    Except when someone else is paying the bill, then you'll see 3 Telstra vans onsite all day cutting over a 10pr into brand new joints that come in solid gold boxes.

  • 2014-Nov-29, 3:00 pm
    Happy

    6MDR-10 is up next for roping, come on down!

  • 2014-Nov-29, 3:00 pm
    Daniel:)

    Quick question for you guys, my brother lives on Tandure Heights, Lakelands and on the map the purple section goes upto Badgerup ave but stops on the corner. He was wondering if there is anything he can do to get connected now. I know there was extensions you could apply for but would this be a case for that?

  • 2014-Nov-30, 7:17 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Daniel:) writes...

    I know there was extensions you could apply for but would this be a case for that?

    Extensions currently only apply to those within the fixed wireless/satellite footprints but this will change next year. However, that being said, if the rest of Lakelands is slated to receive FTTP rather than FTTN, he'll have no choice but to wait for the former rollout to complete.

  • 2014-Nov-30, 7:17 pm
    Warooda

    work carried out by Telstra techs is usually fairly solid

    They are persistent at least.. 6 hours on site to fix our phone line in Parklands..

    poor bugger gave up and ran a new cable from the corner of the street.

  • 2014-Nov-30, 8:03 pm
    Daniel:)

    Should I be worried about this new roll out plan, it says Mandurah will only have 11,500 Premises done with FTTP...

  • 2014-Nov-30, 8:03 pm
    Meth

    Contractors always work to a price, Telstra Tech's are on the company dime.

    Kind of glad to be out of the whole contract scenario now and working away for the body corporate that owns the mine.

  • bruce67
    O.P.

    Happy writes...

    6MDR-10 is up next for roping, come on down!

    Where is 6MDR10 and where did you get the info? :)

  • Bad News Bear

    Daniel:) writes...

    Should I be worried about this new roll out plan, it says Mandurah will only have 11,500 Premises done with FTTP...

    I wouldn't pay much mind to it. For instance, Singleton, Golden Bay and Secret Harbour aren't listed despite the former two being well into Build Prep. and the latter recently moving to Build Commenced; and even though Pinjarra has FDHs popping up all over the place it's listed as a wireless site with a coverage of 500 premises.

  • 2014-Dec-1, 4:54 pm
    Kyprioth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    even though Pinjarra has FDHs popping up all over the place it's listed as a wireless site with a coverage of 500 premises.

    Where do you see the info about how many premises they think will be covered?

    All I know is that on the official NBN map it shows dark (fibre) shading in town and light (wireless) shading all around town.

  • 2014-Dec-1, 4:54 pm
    bindi

    Just got this orange cable put in today with the terra truck crew-got roped last week, orange 10mm cable?

  • 2014-Dec-1, 7:04 pm
    Millsb0mb

    Daniel:) writes...

    Should I be worried about this new roll out plan, it says Mandurah will only have 11,500 Premises done with FTTP...

    From what I have seen Mandurah and Meadow Springs will have FttP. Go from here:

    http://www.cnet.com/au/news/will-you-get-nbn-roll-out-map-premises-state-list/

    Also bindi what area are you in?

  • 2014-Dec-1, 7:04 pm
    bindi

    Millsb0mb writes...

    Also bindi what area are you in?

    Halls Head just off Mclarty Rd overlooking old canals

  • 2014-Dec-1, 7:05 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Kyprioth writes...

    Where do you see the info about how many premises they think will be covered?

    I don't have the link on hand but you'll see the same list in the article Millsb0mb just posted.

  • 2014-Dec-1, 7:05 pm
    Warooda

    Millsb0mb writes...

    http://www.cnet.com/au/news/will-you-get-nbn-roll-out-map-premises-state-list/

    only 211 people live in Preston Beach.. their figures are way off..

  • 2014-Dec-1, 8:00 pm
    zx9john

    Bad News Bear writes...

    and even though Pinjarra has FDHs popping up all over the place it's listed as a wireless site with a coverage of 500 premises.

    Think you'll find that the 500 DU's to be covered by Wireless are in addition to the Fibre Footprint (i.e. a CI yet to be issued). I think the designation is West Pinjarra? pretty sure it covers the area's north of the river off Patterson Rd but I could be wrong.

  • 2014-Dec-1, 8:00 pm
    zx9john

    bindi writes...

    Just got this orange cable put in today with the terra truck crew-got roped last week, orange 10mm cable?

    Orange cable � that'll be power.

  • 2014-Dec-2, 4:48 am
    bindi

    Power cable?, wonder what that's for, or is this nothing to do with the NBN?

  • 2014-Dec-2, 4:48 am
    Millsb0mb

    Warooda writes...

    only 211 people live in Preston Beach.. their figures are way off..

    I was more looking at the other part where it said what town was getting what technology.

    Also 6MDR05 seems to be ramping up around my area. Teranca Rd and Misty Meander had three separate pit crews working this morning.

  • 2014-Dec-17, 12:16 pm
    Happy

    MDR10 will be finished R&R first weeks new year

  • 2014-Dec-17, 12:16 pm
    Millsb0mb

    I want them to start laying some pipe in 6MDR-05. Am I asking to much. I just see all the pits being worked on and it doesn't look like there is a pattern to it. I see some pits being worked on in a street and then weeks later a pit further down will be worked on.

  • 2014-Dec-17, 3:15 pm
    zx9john

    Millsb0mb writes...

    I want them to start laying some pipe in 6MDR-05. Am I asking to much. I just see all the pits being worked on and it doesn't look like there is a pattern to it. I see some pits being worked on in a street and then weeks later a pit further down will be worked on.

    Mandurah 5 is a mixed bag (it's almost like Mandurah 01 in respect to it's brand new ground as there's been no other build there, not even DFN) � what you are seeing there is remediation; Telstra getting ready for the build as a part of their agreement to augment; i.e. where NBN has overlaid their design and given instruction that, for instance, an existing pit is not fit for purpose.

    There is no pattern; but there is purpose.

  • 2014-Dec-17, 3:15 pm
    Millsb0mb

    zx9john writes...

    There is no pattern; but there is purpose.

    I guess I can't really complain so long as I get fiber to my house. It just does look like there is no pattern as you said.

    They haven't done anything with the pit out the front of my place so I assume the pit is fit for fiber... Or they just haven't got around to it yet. I have noticed my internet speeds seem to have dropped recently though.

  • 2014-Dec-19, 8:44 pm
    crimsondawn

    You will need to go to the US of A for fiber.

    We use fibre here ;p

  • 2014-Dec-19, 8:44 pm
    Millsb0mb

    Who says Im not from the US ;P

  • 2014-Dec-20, 10:09 am
    crimsondawn

    But, when in Rome :)

  • 2014-Dec-20, 10:09 am
    Millsb0mb

    I am not in Rome, Doug. I am in a rush. I got to make the bookies.

    :P

  • 2014-Dec-20, 7:47 pm
    Melmac

    Millsb0mb writes...
    http://www.cnet.com/au/news/will-you-get-nbn-roll-out-map-premises-state-list/

    Warooda writes...

    only 211 people live in Preston Beach.. their figures are way off..

    Not sure exactly how many people live in Preston fulltime but our population increases greatly with the holiday home crowd. I'm not sure exactly what the cnet article mean by multi technology mix? though to be honest anything would be better than what we have now in Preston which is expensive 3G usb keys. The article doesn't seem to indicate a time frame are we talking 2020 or 2016 the nbnco map doesn't seem to have changed since before this update so I'm still very much in the dark on what we can expect.

  • 2014-Dec-20, 7:47 pm
    zx9john

    Melmac writes...

    I'm not sure exactly what the cnet article mean by multi technology mix

    That's the term being used for "connections other than Fibre/Wireless" and includes technologies like FTTN, FTTCurb, HFC....

    You know.... Turnbull's Fraudband.

  • 2014-Dec-20, 10:10 pm
    rickjamesb1tch

    Hi does anyone have any info when or if 6MDR-09 halls head will get fttp? or were i can find this info, i have checked nbnco website it has no info if i put in my address

  • 2014-Dec-20, 10:10 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    rickjamesb1tch writes...

    Hi does anyone have any info when or if 6MDR-09 halls head will get fttp? or were i can find this info, i have checked nbnco website it has no info if i put in my address

    Although not official I ran into some telstra people and their contractors doing pit clean, audit and roping in Halls Head for both 6MDR09 and 10. The normal process is for NBN to do their planning then return to upgrade pits and pipework(the NBN map would probably only update a month into these works, lots of digging) and then fibre. I think its looking very good for fibre for MDR09.

  • 2014-Dec-21, 5:55 pm
    rickjamesb1tch

    Thats good to hear thanks

  • 2014-Dec-21, 5:55 pm
    DingoChild

    Any news on 6mdr-06, last I heard I think was in late november or early december about roping and rodding. Nothing has been happening since then.

  • 2014-Dec-22, 9:34 am
    Daniel:)

    DingoChild writes...

    Any news on 6mdr-06, last I heard I think was in late november or early december about roping and rodding. Nothing has been happening since then.

    Yup, same with 6MDR-07, I'm sure work will start up again in the next 1-2 months (hopefully).

  • 2014-Dec-22, 9:34 am
    Kyprioth

    When they build new housing at an estate or such with NBN in a non-NBN suburb, is it always FttP?

    Since there is no existing copper where the new houses are built I assume there's no reason to go FttN.

  • 2014-Dec-23, 2:15 pm
    zx9john

    DingoChild writes...

    Any news on 6mdr-06, last I heard I think was in late november or early december about roping and rodding. Nothing has been happening since then.

    06 requires a lot of new duct; it's all pretty much direct buried copper so there isn't much to rod and rope right now.

    Daniel:) writes...

    Yup, same with 6MDR-07, I'm sure work will start up again in the next 1-2 months (hopefully).

    07 is vastly different to 06. I'm hoping that 07 will be more like 6MSP-02; newer pipe (but shared trench), hopefully not so many pit upgrades and Friday-Arvo "no-one will ever find that" bodgies to deal with.

  • 2014-Dec-23, 2:15 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Kyprioth writes...

    When they build new housing at an estate or such with NBN in a non-NBN suburb, is it always FttP?

    Yes, assuming the estate satisfies the conditions for an NBN rollout (either 100+ lots or provider of last resort). The Golden Bay estate is a good example: the rollout began there about almost a year before Golden Bay proper was flagged as Construction Commenced under Labor's ridiculously broad definition.

  • 2014-Dec-23, 7:44 pm
    Daniel:)

    zx9john writes...

    07 is vastly different to 06. I'm hoping that 07 will be more like 6MSP-02; newer pipe (but shared trench), hopefully not so many pit upgrades and Friday-Arvo "no-one will ever find that" bodgies to deal with.

    If one area is easier to do would they do that area first or continue with the area they've started?

  • 2014-Dec-23, 7:44 pm
    Happy

    bloody hot in MDR10 today phoar

  • 2015-Jan-6, 9:33 am
    Millsb0mb

    I haven't seen anything happen in 05 for awhile. I dunno if that's due to Christmas break or what the story is.

  • 2015-Jan-6, 9:33 am
    zx9john

    Daniel:) writes...

    If one area is easier to do would they do that area first or continue with the area they've started?

    That's one of the considerations, sure thing. There are a whole bunch of others too & the build pattern is intentionally radial to make sure future build can capitalise on current construction activities, this was all set in motion a couple of years ago. (not to say it's fixed in stone though)

  • 2015-Jan-6, 10:09 am
    sTeeL.

    Urgh. Still waiting to find out what will happen with my Multi Dwelling Unit. Seems noone has an idea or cares to find out from ISPs/NBN.

    Anyone got any suggestions as to what I can do to find out a timeline?

  • 2015-Jan-6, 10:09 am
    Warooda

    Below are the 2 email address I received responses from when I complained about Parklands not being on the original roll out for fibre..

    This was well before the change of government. so I'm not even sure if they are still involved in the roll out any more.

    Peter Gurney

  • 2015-Jan-6, 2:31 pm
    Bad News Bear

    Good news everyone in Golden Bay/Singleton! There is a crew running green fibre into a pit on Dampier Drive. I tried to take a photo but the phone slipped and I ended up happy-snapping my steering wheel instead, which is far less interesting.

  • 2015-Jan-6, 2:31 pm
    Kyprioth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    I tried to take a photo but the phone slipped and I ended up happy-snapping my steering wheel instead

    I too, used to drive a car without a dash camera. I can't recommend them highly enough, not just for accidents, you get to go back and have a better look at, and share, all the random or interesting things you see on the roads. :D

  • 2015-Jan-8, 11:08 am
    zx9john

    Bad News Bear writes...

    I tried to take a photo but the phone slipped and I ended up happy-snapping my steering wheel instead, which is far less....paperwork than if you'd hit someone with your car.

    Please don't do that again.

    Pull over, take some selfies with the crew in a safe manner and post pics instead of bail.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 11:08 am
    Gametight

    I'm in the new Madora Bay & I seem to be able to only connect with this e wire. I'm not happy with my latency & upload speeds which are a fraction of what they advertise. Does anyone know if the NBN will be coming? Or what other options do i have? It seems dodgy that E Wire has cornered the market in this area giving consumers no other options.
    Regards.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 5:17 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    zx9john writes...

    ....paperwork than if you'd hit someone with your car.

    Please don't do that again.

    Pull over, take some selfies with the crew in a safe manner and post pics instead of bail.

    That I managed to accidentally photograph my steering wheel doesn't necessarily mean that my car was in motion. And it wasn't, just so we're clear. I may be a bear but I'm also acutely aware of the danger that distracted driving engenders.

    Gametight writes...

    I'm in the new Madora Bay & I seem to be able to only connect with this e wire. I'm not happy with my latency & upload speeds which are a fraction of what they advertise. Does anyone know if the NBN will be coming? Or what other options do i have? It seems dodgy that E Wire has cornered the market in this area giving consumers no other options.
    Regards.

    You could pay for a phone line installation and go with ADSL... but I don't like your chances of that resulting in a better connection. If you're within Madora Bay's FSAM footprint I'd call up NBN Co and see what can be done about getting connected, otherwise you may be in for a long wait.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 5:17 pm
    Ballterror

    Just seen two vans splicing Fibre at the corner of Beacham and Riverina in 07, looks to be for the new Sub Division up the road. It must be running on the otherside of the road from me.

    So close I can almost taste it.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 9:50 pm
    Meth

    I just got home from swing and saw those vans also. Will be for Placid Waters houses.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 9:50 pm
    Ballterror

    Meth writes...

    Will be for Placid Waters houses.

    Yeah just up the road, Hopefully sometime this year they will start the rest of the area. Makes it a bit hard when you know its that close.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 11:02 pm
    sdokeefe

    Have recently moved to Meadow Springs, waiting for the already connected contracted Telstra to change ownership to me so I can then order NBN,

    You can ask to have the inside boxes installed where you want right? Stipulations are its needs a power socket nearby? Want it in walk in pantry, will make Wifi central (worry about the surrounding walls?), and allow space for hopeful later structured cabling and cabinet to be installed.

  • 2015-Jan-8, 11:02 pm
    cowthespud

    sdokeefe writes...

    You can ask to have the inside boxes installed where you want right?

    From http://www.nbnco.com.au/connect-home-or-business/information-for-home/fixed-line/installation/fixed-line-installation-inside-the-home.html#.VLL-aiuUcvk

    Where is the equipment installed?

    The NBN installer will work with you on the best location for the NBN equipment.

  • 2015-Jan-9, 1:15 am
    Bad News Bear

    sdokeefe writes...

    Stipulations are its needs a power socket nearby?

    The backup PSU is optional these days, which should have been the case from the off, but better late than never.

  • 2015-Jan-9, 1:15 am
    Meth

    Ha waited this long in Coodanup for NBN now me and the Mrs have decided to move somewhere in Mandurah area on the river or canals. Will make sure on the coverage map this time.

  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    It seems FDH foundations are starting to pop up in 6MSP-04. There's one on Woolen Street, just around the corner from Maroonah. I can't imagine it's anything else: a small concrete slab with a bit of PVC protruding and situated on an unattended sliver of an existing block.

  • 2015-Feb-8, 10:21 pm
    Happy

    Daniel:) writes...

    Got http://imgur.com/DP28AVS 6MDR7 in the mail today, I thought they have already done all the rodding/ropping in the area why would they do the pits now?

    repairing what the rod and rope crews have marked down as damaged, not meeting requirements etc

  • 2015-Feb-8, 10:21 pm
    Daniel:)

    Happy writes...

    repairing what the rod and rope crews have marked down as damaged, not meeting requirements etc

    ahhh sweet thanks for that, do you know anything else going on in the area? I haven't heard about anything for a while, well besides from that letter.

  • 2015-Feb-8, 11:00 pm
    Millsb0mb

    So I still haven't seen any work around 6MDR-05. Has anyone else?

  • 2015-Feb-8, 11:00 pm
    crimsondawn

    Not a cracker anywhere :(. My ADSL2 is killing me. Like dial up during the day on weekends and in the evening during the week.
    Paying for 20Mbps down and get about 1-1.5 most of the time.

  • 2015-Feb-9, 1:00 pm
    sdokeefe

    Havent seen anything in 05 since the roping months ago.

  • 2015-Feb-9, 1:00 pm
    Millsb0mb

    That's what I was worried about because I haven't either. Wonder what is going on?

  • 2015-Feb-9, 9:32 pm
    Daniel:)

    A bunch of workers around 6MDR-07 replacing pits yesterday so thats a nice sign something is happening haha.

  • 2015-Feb-9, 9:32 pm
    cowthespud

    cowthespud writes...

    I saw a crew with big spool of cable working near the Dampier/Warnbro Sound Ave roundabout on Thursday

    and again yesterday on Dampier drive. 1 group at the lights and another at fig tree lane

  • 2015-Feb-10, 12:51 pm
    Bad News Bear

    MyNBN is now saying October for 6MSP-04, which is the same month as 05. This is (pleasantly) surprising to me as 6MSP-05 entered the Build Commenced phase a few months earlier and has a significantly smaller footprint.

  • 2015-Feb-10, 12:51 pm
    cashcow

    Saw some pretty green going into 1 Brighton yesterday. Could they be starting on multi's/

  • 2015-Feb-11, 9:30 am
    DingoChild

    Trying to check out the map, but for some reason it seems a bit buggy with everything being dark. If anyone could tell me whats happening at 6mdr-06 (watson drive barragup in particular) id appreciate it a lot!

  • 2015-Feb-11, 9:30 am
    Millsb0mb

    Looks like all of Mandurah to the bridge is now in build prep. 6MDR05 still is not in build commence though which is depressing.

  • 2015-Feb-11, 11:45 am
    Daniel:)

    Map updated 6MDR-7 now green woo, slow progress :)

  • 2015-Feb-11, 11:45 am
    Ballterror

    More splicing happening on Beacham Road today for the new subdivision I guess, so close yet so far....

    At least we are in the green now.

  • 2015-Feb-11, 3:48 pm
    PsYko

    Daniel:) writes...

    Map updated 6MDR-7 now green woo

    wooo!

  • 2015-Feb-11, 3:48 pm
    hiddenace
    this post was edited

    I saw the van pulling fibre through the pit at the corner of Dampier Dr and Thunderlarra Dr while on my way to work this morning.

    Edit: On the way home, they were pulling fibre at the lights on Mandurah Rd/Madora Bay.

    They have also re-concreted around the pit across the road from me.

  • Millsb0mb

    I did see pits being worked on today next to the Baptist church on Pinjarra road.

  • Kyprioth

    Is this the church on that road in Pinjarra itself, or somewhere further down Pinjarra road?

  • 2015-Feb-13, 8:46 pm
    Millsb0mb

    Thats Mandurah Baptist Church in Mandurah. Where the Greenfields Deli is.

  • 2015-Feb-13, 8:46 pm
    dickowa

    I saw a NBN ute on warnbro sound ave just near the secret harbour primary yesterday. They maybe in the planning stages for my place as I got a nbn card the other month

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