Not sure if it is a bug or just whacky data but the site has a RFS of 31st May for our local tower but also say RFS already: http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3STE-51-06-POMN
v1 has it as good to go: http://v1.mynbn.info/wsam/3STE-51-06-POMN
Hi LagerFan,
It's good news is that the tower is now active. It was activated ahead of schedule.
Keep in mind that NBN Co's map is only updated once a week and is often one week behind reality.
If you live in that area, you can now order a service with your RSP of choice.
Cheers,
jx
Not sure if this was asked but is there any plan (assuming there is any point!?) in bringing back the FSAM maps from v1 for those areas removed or under old construction?
Sometimes it is good to be reminded of the way it was (or would have been).
Hey PeteP,
Depends... I might add it as an optional layer later. In reality, that data is some 2 years old... but I understand it's a good resource to refer back to sometimes.
Will definately consider.
Cheers,
jx
To hopefully clear things up a bit, I've added a message that shows up on all recently activated rollout regions saying that the nbn� website and rollout map may not be up-to-date.
Areas activated within the past 7 days should show the message.
In reality, that data is some 2 years old...
So is FTTP given that was superseded back in Sept 2013 by FTTN and HFC and yet the FSAM maps are still relevant today as then!
How accurate are the Rollout maps?
My house was shown on the NBN coverage map falling into a brown hatched area, for wireless from a tower due to be ready for service on 30 Jun 2015. Then last weekend, "poof", my property disappeared from the coverage map but not my neighbours!
Will this effect my connection to the NBN?
What does it mean when my suburb doesn't even exist on the site? No plans?
What does it mean when my suburb doesn't even exist on the site? No plans?
It probably means that your suburb is not in the 18 month rollout plan. Keep in mind that not each suburb or exchange will have its own Service Area... NBN's network is different from the Telstra network; so a Service Area could span a few exchange areas.
That said, nbn� is expected to release a 3 year rollout plan next month. You may see your suburb appear then.
How accurate are the Rollout maps?
Rollout maps are provided by nbn�. If you'd like, you can whim me your area and address and I can double check for you.
It probably means that your suburb is not in the 18 month rollout plan. Keep in mind that not each suburb or exchange will have its own Service Area... NBN's network is different from the Telstra network; so a Service Area could span a few exchange areas.
That said, nbn� is expected to release a 3 year rollout plan next month. You may see your suburb appear then.
Ok for that town i live there is going to be 4 planned FW sites and no mention of fftn at all ?
Status Planned
Build~ Jul 2015
RFS~ Q4 2015
Doesn't FW need fibre backhaul leading the exchange as the telstra transit network needs upgrading here in town stated by the nbn just recently ?
Doesn't FW need fibre backhaul leading the exchange as the telstra transit network needs upgrading here in town stated by the nbn just recently ?
No. Depending on network topology in your area but many of the towers have microwave backhaul instead.
double check for you.
Hiya jxeeno,
Just on v2 site, sorry for the stupid question, what does a Status of (GREEN colour) Preparation & when click into them just notes Preparation (Nov 2014) just checked a couple of areas of interest and that was what came up
If you can believe what was announced the other day, nbn plan to release 3 years worth of roll out (out to Jun 2018 I think) within the next couple months
In your expert opinion, how reliable could this info hope to be, for example if one was investing in a property in a roll out plan region - last minute changes really annoy people that like to have a long term plan
Thanks for continuing the great work on mynbn
Claudekrowe
Just asking but why haven't the maps on the myNBN v2 haven't updated for the new build-prep areas especially in SA (St mary's, etc).
(The areas that have build-prep shading on it still shows that it is on the 18-month plan)
how reliable could this info hope to be, for example if one was investing in a property in a roll out plan region � last minute changes really annoy people that like to have a long term plan
Long term plans should not be taken with caution, especially when anything beyond 12 months. Heck, nbn� can't even get RFS dates 3 months out accurate sometimes.
Just asking but why haven't the maps on the myNBN v2 haven't updated for the new build-prep areas especially in SA (St mary's, etc).
Hi Techno100,
I haven't received updated rollout information yet. Since NBN Co no longer provides information publicly, the adding of new areas is typically delayed. I endeavour to get the information up asap.
Thanks jxeeno, I was of course pointing out the actions (questionable) taken by the NEW nbn when they took away a promised technology and replaced with slower product.
Heck, nbn� can't even get RFS dates 3 months out accurate
I was not aiming that one at your mynbn.info, which continues to run rings around the poor excuse that passes for information the new nbn co website (which has been gradually DUMBED down !!)
Krowey
Hi, do we know if the rfs date for 2grk-01 is still sept 1? Telstra tech the other day says he doubts it will be ready by sept 1
Any updates on the myNBN site Jxeeno?
Seems like a rep from DeVoteD reads these threads, I just checked again and the Type correctly appears as MTM (rather than Fibre) across all searches. In fact the only difference is in the Service Class, it is 0 if you are in the previous government's under construction or 1 year plan (for FTTP) and it is 10 otherwise for all other areas. Not sure how significant this is but at least it is a record of what we had and an indicator of which areas may still get FTTP (i.e. those with Service Class 0 are still in the running).
I have been spending much of lunchtime using DevotedNBN's SQ checker (sorry Glenn!) to try and work out what the story is with what technology is being rolled out where.
I have noticed a pattern in cities that areas that are fairly substantial but lack HFC are showing as SC0, while HFC areas are SC10.
A couple of cases in point.
3RCM-02 (where I am; on the 3 year plan) is all SC0. Around it, everything is SC10. With the exception of a few streets north of Bridge Rd, there is no HFC. Detailed design for the area had been done I think because it was in the 3 year rollout plan under the previous government.
3WIR-03, where my dad is, also shows SC0. What makes it interesting is that HFC is plentiful where he is, yet on the other side of the railway line (a dense business area) there is none.
In Collingwood, Middle Park and South Melbourne (other islands of no HFC surrounded by HFC), they are showing SC10.
I am guessing therefore that NBNCo is going on a SAM-by-SAM basis.
If there is a significant portion of the SAM without HFC AND either there are lots of business OR detailed design's been done, then it's going to get FTTP.
Otherwise, it will get HFC. I am guessing that there will not be any FTTN to avoid having 3 overlapping technologies in a service area...
I will guess we'll see if these theories prove correct though...
Off-topic from MyNBNs site, but with Devoted's SQ, my area was on the 1 year plan with the previous Gov, most surrounding areas/towns now have been added to the FTTN rollout, except us. When checking Devoted's website, I get SC0.
Would there be a major reason why we haven't even been looked at? Our town is smack in the middle of all surrounding areas/towns, surrounding the town is FW everywhere basically, but I'm just stunned that we haven't been looked at or even considered. Especially for FTTN.
I'm hoping I'm in the right place and that you good folk can help me as three different websites are telling me three different things about NBN access. The reason I'm keen to get an answer is before any NBN installation goes ahead, I want my house data cabled first but I'm not keen to proceed with that until I'm certain it's coming. Note: A PCD has not yet been installed.
If I plug my address into NBN Co's website, I get "Great news, you can order an nbn� plan today"
If I use mynbn.info, the result is "Brownfields FTTP. Not (yet) serviceable. Note! This area went live in the past few days. This service qualification information may not be up-to-date. Bespoke Connection Required. Service class 0"
And finally, devoted SQ results in "NBN Fibre (MTM)** is coming to your place soon!"
I don't want to order a service before having the house data cabled but I don't want to data cable only to find out there's no NBN. Can someone shed some light on the above results, in particular the "Service class 0" and "Bespoke connection required". My ISP (Internode) still shows a result an address search akin to devoted's result whilst iiNet agrees with NBN Co's result.
Help!
Edit: Whoops! It would help if I added that my area is 3BRA-07
Edit 2: I'm told we did have NBN Co up and down the driveway chalk marking the conduit underneath and there's leftover pieces of some type of rope near our wall Telstra box and the Telstra pit at the end of the driveway.
Would there be a major reason why we haven't even been looked at?
I hate to throw cold water on this but last week I checked a few of the 6CAN areas which are getting FTTN and they appeared as SC0 rather than SC10 which can only really mean one thing: the NBN database is out of date and cannot be relied upon ... oh well.
Looks like 9QBN-05 has gone RFS unavailable on mynbn.info but looks like the Telstra NBN wholesale sheet has updated it from November 2015 to Feb 2016.
https://www.telstrawholesale
Looks like 9QBN-05 has gone RFS unavailable on mynbn.info but looks like the Telstra NBN wholesale sheet has updated it from November 2015 to Feb 2016.
Looks like a software issue. Looking into it now, thanks for the flag :)
edit: issue fixed. I will be loading new RFS dates up soon.
Looks like a software issue. Looking into it now, thanks for the flag :)
Legend, thanks! :)
Um jxeeno for some reason I can't connect to the fttn.mynbn.info site. I get an error 521 is there anyway you can fix this?
Um jxeeno for some reason I can't connect to the fttn.mynbn.info site. I get an error 521 is there anyway you can fix this?
working for me 9:28am
ISP Internode
I think he means fttn.mynbn.info, not mynbn.info.
The first one has been down for me for a while now. It was a useful page as it had the estimated distances from the "silver torpedos" in the trial rollout areas.
Um jxeeno for some reason I can't connect to the fttn.mynbn.info site. I get an error 521 is there anyway you can fix this?
Sorry about that! Should be back up now... maps may take a while to re-render.
Jxeeno, why hasn't 6MDR-07 been updated yet? apparently it's been build phase since "may" but went on the map last update however hasn't change on your website yet. Theres a RFS date also which is april 2016 on the Telstra rollout schedule.
Thanks.
:)
Jxeeno, why hasn't 6MDR-07 been updated yet? apparently it's been build phase since "may" but went on the map last update however hasn't change on your website yet. Theres a RFS date also which is april 2016 on the Telstra rollout schedule.
Sorry Daniel, there has been a change in format for both the build data and the latest 18 month rollout plan � data update is taking longer than usual.
Apologies for the inconvenience!
Sorry Daniel, there has been a change in format for both the build data and the latest 18 month rollout plan � data update is taking longer than usual.
another change on nbn�'s end
Oh, jxeeno just a heads up 5CPK-01 is in build commenced for awhile now.
Oh, jxeeno just a heads up 5CPK-01 is in build commenced for awhile now.
So has 6VIC-10 apparently. I got confused the other day when it was listed still in Build Preparation and NBNCo were not showing any green areas. This together with the lack of SAM ID designation on the map (e.g. which brown/green colored jigsaw piece is 6VIC-10 ... or 5CPK-01?) is a bit of a problem.
So has 6VIC-10 apparently.
Sorry guys! I've set aside a few hours to manually update all the records plus the 18 month rollout plan this afternoon. Apologies for the inconvenience.
In other news, I'll be doing an AMA on /r/Australia tomorrow from 1pm. Feel free to join: more info here
plus the 18 month rollout plan this afternoon
If you can decipher the supposedly "new" 1800 premises to enter Build in the next three months out of the remaining 12000 premises in Applecross FSA not on the rollout (6APP is around 50% completed with FTTP and the rest are in limbo) that would be handy!
Or better yet the mystery of the missing 1700 premises in Victoria Park FSA (6VIC) which will go the Build in the next three months given ALL of 6VIC is currently in FTTP Build.
(ref: http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
But that would require you to have access to the hallowed, mystical and magical inner sanctum of NBN MTM planning.
My area ia showing as h2-2016 what does that mean? I see others are q3 which i under stand is quater three. Does h2 does mean quater 2?
My area ia showing as h2-2016 what does that mean? I see others are q3 which i under stand is quater three. Does h2 does mean quater 2?
h2 = second half of year. once it gets closer you'll have something less broad.
So simple lol.
Sorry guys! I've set aside a few hours to manually update all the records plus the 18 month rollout plan this afternoon. Apologies for the inconvenience.
I suppose the rollout map on your website be updated as well to show the new 18 month icons showing the orange coloured areas ?
I suppose the rollout map on your website be updated as well to show the new 18 month icons showing the orange coloured areas ?
They will be updated, yes :) working on it now in fact!
They will be updated, yes :) working on it now in fact!
When will we expect to see the updates on the map?
they will add new ACT rollout soon :D
ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Farrer, Greenway, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens,
Wanniassa
Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor,
Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson
They will be updated, yes :) working on it now in fact!
Excellent, it'll be interesting to see how much orange shading will cover my town hopefully, fingers crossed.
Would be nice if they'd hurry up and get to my area...
Hi all,
Apologies for the delay. Rollout status and the new 18 month rollout plan has been uploaded onto the site. Some data is still missing at this point, but I hope to have it all uploaded at the end of the week.
Again, shameless plug, I'm doing an AMA on Reddit Australia from 1PM today :-)
Cheers!
Again, shameless plug, I'm doing an AMA on Reddit Australia from 1PM today :-)
Too many social media portals for me to keep up with these days (facebook, twitter and now reddit?) so I will ask here the questions/concerns I have since April related to 6APP and 6APP-05 which can be generalised as:
Q1) Any update on the status of the (mainly HFC) FSAMs which had completed Build Prep by Apr 2015 and were removed from the maps since then? Have any come back on the map or specifically mentioned in the latest 18 month or are they still in limbo?
SUPPLEMENTARY: The theory is the SAMS with HFC are being held for NBN HFC, however this does not explain why 6APP-07 an area with HFC was fast tracked to Build Prep and then Build ahead of 6APP-05 (which was removed) given these are part of the same HFC exchange network?
Q2) In the July MTM rollout map, the numbers don't make sense for FSA with FTTP Builds. I did some analysis here: whrl.pl/Relp3x which makes me believe NBN are reusing existing FSAMs recently gone to Build and declaring these as "new" areas which will enter Build by Q3-2015. Have I misinterpreted the MTM rollout map data (that premises numbers are for new Builds only) or is NBN providing misleading/ambiguous information (mixing up new Builds together with recent Builds)?
so I will ask here
Thats not how reddit works. YOu have to ask it in the reddit thread, so he can then respond to it, so the q and a can be read by everyone. He's not going to just answer questions over there that nobody can see.
Thats not how reddit works.
Just looking over some of the reddit posts now:
https://www.reddit.com/r
(not familiar with reddit so not even sure if this is the proper link to the AMA)
I guess to me the key question which is also relevant to the information being imported to mynbn is my Q2) above in regards to how one interprets the numbers for the MTM rollout map released last week.
Since jxeeno reads this column I am sure if he has an answer he will provide one. After all he has to import these numbers into the 18 month rollout plan.
Checked out the new updated map on mynbn.info today showing the 18 month planned areas and boy talk about a knife edge. I'm just within the orange shading....subject to change of course when the build commences in this area next year 2H 2016
nbn� is expected to commence build in parts of this suburb within 18 months.
Hey, jxeeno any updates on the 5CPK area expect updating 5CPK-01 from build preparation to commenced. P.S the new build prep areas don't have any appox of premises.
Ya Ho my area is now on the 18 Month rollout plan Flagstaff Hill South Australia
Hey, jxeeno any updates on the 5CPK area expect updating 5CPK-01 from build preparation to commenced. P.S the new build prep areas don't have any appox of premises.
Hey techno100, good point. I'll add those figures in soon... some data is missing until I'm able to access them, but premises should be possible.
Since jxeeno reads this column I am sure if he has an answer he will provide one. After all he has to import these numbers into the 18 month rollout plan.
Hey PeteP,
I'll try and find some time to look at this tonight... it's been a pretty busy few days for me :) This is a bit more than just an off-the-top response
I'll try and find some time to look at this tonight
Thanks jxeeno, and good luck trying to make sense of what you get from NBN. If it means anything I hear that FDHs are already popping up around 6APP-07 which seems quite quick given this area only went into Build in April/May.
I'm just within the orange shading
Hmm, I only get the orange shading when I zoom out enough, but the boundaries are quite fuzzy so unless you are well within the orange shading I wouldn't hold my breath. What would be good is to click on the orange shading and be told which SA, or click within any green or brown area and be told which SAM, I don't think the current map is able to do that.
Ya Ho my area is now on the 18 Month rollout plan Flagstaff Hill South Australia
Dont know what area of Flagstaff Hill you are in but ive just checked the map and nowhere in Flagstaff hill is on the planned map, you got me excited to finally get off the crap internet
Try looking it up at mynbn.info, his site is a little more up to date than the nbnco.com.au site, in any case Flagstaff Hill is on the 18 month plan
Mynbn i find a better site in regards of current rollouts and 18 month construction plans for new areas
This is a bit more than just an off-the-top response
Even for NBN.
I am still waiting for response from them sent last week to clarify what these numbers mean. Looks like they are not sure themselves what they figures are spouting these days.
Any info on 3PTO-02? was on build commencing in july 2015, done in q1 2016, now it says dates not avaliable for both, its shaded green and is getting fttn.
Can't wait for the update, want to see where the node in my suburb Kardinya on pop 6Hil (Hilton) will be
No longer says FTTN, but rather says MTM for rollout type?
Any chance it will be more specific?
No longer says FTTN, but rather says MTM for rollout type?
Sorry, no... it technically can't be more specific.
Rollout regions are classed as "Multi-Technology Mix" because technologies vary within a single rollout region. The technology used is defined on an Access Distribution Area (ADA level) -- e.g. 2BLR-01-05
Typically speaking, nbn� does not reveal the actual mix of technologies used until at least 6 months before rollout region is expected to be ready for service.
You can see the technology breakdown by for areas that are expected to be RFS within 6 months by going to their rollout region page (e.g. http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/2BLR-01) and looking under "Premises by technology".
Can't wait for the update, want to see where the node in my suburb Kardinya on pop 6Hil (Hilton) will be
Hi Rosendlek,
The update will not reveal where your node will be. You'll be able to approximate the location of the node by finding your closest Telstra pillar (those silver "torpedo" things on the side of the road).
Jxeeno � are you going to update the mynbn maps to reflect the new build prep areas for FTTN? I just want to see what SAM I will be connected to... Thanks
Hey Idaf,
I'll endeavour to get it updated ASAP, but I cannot guarantee anything.
Apparently my pillar is 500m away, so that would be my probable loop length?
Apparently my pillar is 500m away, so that would be my probable loop length?
Could be longer since the copper cable wouldn't be straight since the cable needs to on footpaths. But if the pillar is visible when looking on the footpath then I would way 500m loop length.
Any ETA on updating current build areas? My area was last updated almost 2 months ago (1st June) and as we've just hit the build drop state I'm keen to see if they're on track or if the ETA is being pushed one way or the other.
@jxeeno, it appears that we now have a network boundary definition of a 'HSAM' for HFC rollouts, will this affect your site at all... whrl.pl/RemmDr
is there anyway to know what node i get connected to or if there is a node i have yet seen?
im in hamlyn terrace and when i drive around there is number of them not far from each other..then there is a whole section of the suburb that doesnt seem to have any nodes in them at all...though its possible i missed one a street somewhere.
We have three on warnervael road, one on primrose, then two on georgia about 100 metres from each other, then one on minnesota and another one about 100 metres from that around the corners on a street name i forget right now...
but then there is a whole block of streets that dont seem to have even one node. by road most of that block would have to be around 1000 metres at least from any node....the biggest distance in this area. personally im about 600 metres at most from a node, so i should be fine..but what about those other houses? i cant see a node...and if there isnt one..are they going to be left without anything???
put your address into https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
it will show you the pillar number, you are connected to..
put your address into https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
it will show you the pillar number, you are connected to..
Yeah, GRKN:64. but that doesnt tell me where the pillar is. i know where a few of them are...which on is mine?
Yeah, GRKN:64. but that doesnt tell me where the pillar is. i know where a few of them are...which on is mine?
well it draws a map outline on a map, look at it and go and walk your area or use google street view, like the rest of us on here have done. Pilars usually have something on them like
DA GRKN 64
Although enlarged pillars just seem to now have
P64 on them
Some of the the greatest tools you have are your eyes and your feet, start using them, rather than trying to get everyone else to try and spoon feed you information
put your address into https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
it will show you the pillar number, you are connected to..
thanks for your help Idaf
My pillar shows the actual number on it, SRTN:40
Some of the the greatest tools you have are your eyes and your feet, start using them, rather than trying to get everyone else to try and spoon feed you information
I totally agree with this comment. Thank you.
@jxeeno, it appears that we now have a network boundary definition of a 'HSAM' for HFC rollouts, will this affect your site at all... whrl.pl/RemmDr
From a database perspective, no.
For the purpose of the MTM rollout, a SAM can be purely one technology (FSAM, CSAM, HSAM, WSAM) or a mix of technologies as per the Multi-Technology Mix.
Any ETA on updating current build areas? My area was last updated almost 2 months ago (1st June) and as we've just hit the build drop state I'm keen to see if they're on track or if the ETA is being pushed one way or the other.
I'll get some updated information up tonight.
Some of the the greatest tools you have are your eyes and your feet, start using them, rather than trying to get everyone else to try and spoon feed you information
If i want information i will ask for it. if you dont like that, instead of continually being rude to me, just skip to the next message
Hey mate, I've been waiting for nbn for a few months now and have been using your site for updates
http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/AYCA-1CQ64Y
This was updated yesterday to ready for service, but ISPs still have no idea what I'm talking about.
Also phoned nbn co and they said it's not ready until August at the earliest.
Are you able to provide any more info on this rollout? Would really love to know what's actually happening.
Cheers for your help.
Hi all,
myNBN.info has been updated with the latest RFS dates and further 18 month rollout plan details (incl expected build commencement and RFS dates).
Let me know if you find any issues.
Thank you jxeeno, very much appreciated.
*edited to add something*
I thought 5CPK-10 started preperation in May 2015 because NBN updates their maps a month late and the 5CPK-03 to 11 was added around 16th of June BUT I can be wrong (most likely will)
Hi Jxeeno. Forgot I had an account so I usually just read your posts as a guest.
Just wanted to say a massive thanks for all your hard work with the site. It's been great to have more detailed info on the rollout.
Appreciate your hard work. Cheers
Build~ Q4 2016
RFS ~ Q2 2017
Build Preparation aka remediation would have be done well before the actual build happens ?
So the build and rfs estimate is subject to change depending on factors
Build Preparation aka remediation would have be done well before the actual build happens ?
Typically, Build Preparation occurs around 3 months before Build commences.
So the build and rfs estimate is subject to change depending on factors
Yes, they are all subject to change. These are best estimates made by nbn at the time of publication.
I thought 5CPK-10 started preperation in May 2015 because NBN updates their maps a month late and the 5CPK-03 to 11 was added around 16th of June BUT I can be wrong (most likely will)
That's possibly correct. Some May 2015 and June 2015 build preparation commencement dates have been a bit out of whack because of some backend code changes. I'll go back and fix these anomalies soon.
This was updated yesterday to ready for service, but ISPs still have no idea what I'm talking about.
Also phoned nbn co and they said it's not ready until August at the earliest.
The area has gone live, however, I'd wait a few more days when nbn updates their maps before ordering. Some ISPs are insistent on your area showing "active" on the NBN map before allowing an order.
Typically, Build Preparation occurs around 3 months before Build commences.
Hmm so roughly July 2016 give or take.
The Telstra exchange in town i expect will need some upgrades for the fftn rollout no doubt
If I use mynbn.info, the result is "Brownfields FTTP. Not (yet) serviceable. Note! This area went live in the past few days. This service qualification information may not be up-to-date. Bespoke Connection Required. Service class 0"
A day or so after posting this, a team of contractors turned up to install the PCD. It turns out that "Bespoke connection required" is code for a separate "specialist" team of contractors.
Some ISPs are insistent on your area showing "active" on the NBN map before allowing an order.
Regarding the above, jxeeno, what's the lag time with NBN and their updated info? My "bespoke connection" has now been completed with the installation of a PCD but according to your fabulous site and my ISP of choice, I'm not ready to be connected (Still "awaiting bespoke connection").
(Yes, I've been relying on mynbn.info for the myriad of information provided!)
A day or so after posting this, a team of contractors turned up to install the PCD. It turns out that "Bespoke connection required" is code for a separate "specialist" team of contractors.
Yep, that's what "bespoke" (meaning custom) means :)
Regarding the above, jxeeno, what's the lag time with NBN and their updated info?
I cannot guarantee the frequency of site-wide addresses being updated on the site because it relies on information finding its way to me, as opposed to me finding the information.
However, you can subscribe to the free notifications subscription service which will notify you within 3 hours of your premises going live. This feature is independent of the status shown on the myNBN site.
The area has gone live, however, I'd wait a few more days when nbn updates their maps before ordering. Some ISPs are insistent on your area showing "active" on the NBN map before allowing an order.
Great, thanks jxeeno, I'll keep an eye on the map.
Just FYI the guy I spoke to at NBN co was quick to dismiss your website as inaccurate, assuring me that their late August estimate was correct.
This thread clearly shows how misinformed they are.
Hmm so roughly July 2016 give or take.
The Telstra exchange in town i expect will need some upgrades for the fftn rollout no doubt
Exchange-based upgrades will mainly be installing a new rack with nbn equipment to provide services to the node.
Remember, the nbn is mostly independent of the Telstra network (although, it will be using the last mile copper from the pillar to the house in FTTN areas).
Very off-topic, and you may not even know yourself, but how many nodes would they install to service a 700 premise town? As mine is slanted for 2H next year. Would they just install nodes at pillar (only seen 2 in the whole town and they are fairly close) or would they install new pillars/nodes where there aren't any in place?
myNBN.info has been updated with the latest RFS dates and further 18 month rollout plan details (incl expected build commencement and RFS dates).
Much appreciated. Looks like I may need to wait for August for the latest updates but at least I know the info is more recent now.
This was updated yesterday to ready for service, but ISPs still have no idea what I'm talking about.
says Juy29
so now fttn launch in Gorokan has been pushed back to November?
what the hell?
they are finished and even the two tech people ive spoken to at nodes have said september.
Yeah July 29th popped up on there last night. NBN Co. are telling me August 12th though.
Either way, glad to be finally getting some proper internet after 3 months.
one day i get real internets again. this rubbish of buying prepaid telstra sims for cheap on ebay is getting silly
so now fttn launch in Gorokan has been pushed back to November?
what the hell?
sorry to say, but I did say that all the info you had been told was not from nbn� but 3rd parties, some with vested interests, aka Telstra to get you signed up, or Liberal pollies trying to promoted themselves and the Liberal mtm
My area has slipped back to December, I will not beileve any dates from anyone until it is actually declared RFS, I can see it slipping into Jan or Feb for a connection, even if it is declared RFS December 1, what with the usual wind down leading up to Christmas, the Christmas break and then the wind back up of industry
How accurate is myNBN compared to NBNco?
How accurate is myNBN compared to NBNco?
No comparison imo
My area has gone RFS on 17 July and I now have an active NBN connnection
NBNCo = Work started in your area in May 2014
myNBN = Not (yet) serviceable Note! This area went live in the past few days. This service qualification information may not be up-to-date. (More info)
I had registered to be notified on both sites and still have received nothing from NBNco while on 17 July I received email notification from myNBN
We're pleased to let you know that nbn� has updated the serviceability status of the following address:
XXXX
This address now has a service class of 2. This means that your premsies is now serviceable by NBN Fibre, already has an external NBN utility box and requires an internal installation.
You should be able to contact a service provider to order an NBN service. You can find a list of service providers by visiting the link below:
so now fttn launch in Gorokan has been pushed back to November?
what the hell?
they are finished and even the two tech people ive spoken to at nodes have said september.
Hi UONStudent,
I simply relay the information provided to me on the website. Dates change for a myriad of reasons, however, these reasons are not communicated externally.
You may also wish to read the disclaimer provided underneath the ready for service date:
Expected Ready for Service Date: This date represents nbn�'s most recently published estimate of when they expect to declare the rollout region "Ready for Service" and be able to take the first customer orders. This date is subject to change due to factors beyond the control of nbn�. Use this information with due caution.
Cheers,
jx
Question about the 18 month plan. 7HOB is listed here as last ready Q4 2016 (http://www.mynbn.info/sa/list/plan/yes/state/TAS), and the 7HOB page says it includes Sandy Bay (the press release also mentions Sandy Bay � http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
oh dear, nbn� latest roll out dates and surprise surprise, the areas in 2WOY listed the other week as being RFS in December 2015 are now listed as Feb 2016.
So, I have seen hinted dates of September, never believed this as it was the announcement date of the product release and the month following the RSP "onboarding"
I have seen published dates of November, December and now February.
so if we take the November date, that is 10 months after the claimed build start date, to now be February, that is now a 12 month build or a slip of 20%
Wonder what the next "slip" will be?
rhetorical question
Are they now doing all in their power to connect as few people as possible before the next election just in case the real world experience incinerates Malcolm's claims of speed etc
rhetorical question
Are they now doing all in their power to connect as few people as possible before the next election just in case the real world experience incinerates Malcolm's claims of speed etc
Probably. Then they could argue, "we didn't have enough users connected to give an accurate scale of speeds."
My area has slipped back to December, I will not beileve any dates from anyone until it is actually declared RFS, I can see it slipping into Jan or Feb for a connection, even if it is declared RFS December 1, what with the usual wind down leading up to Christmas, the Christmas break and then the wind back up of industry
I can also see NBNco announcing these areas going RFS yet RSPs still lagging behind offering a service that can be ordered due to OSS/BSS issues.
If the dates slip on the IT system then that will slow everything down, it really needs to be ready well before the actual area goes RFS so RSPs can onboard etc.
I know you know this D&C, but I think others need to be reminded. There is a fair bit of work in it for RSPs, so much so that some NBNco resellers withdrew their products due to the complexity of integrating the new IT changes.
Thought there was an RFS document with the MTM RFS dates somewhere? Lost the link
edit: should have said the monthly RFS document that revealed the FTTN Trial sites as per
Thought there was an RFS document with the MTM RFS dates somewhere? Lost the link
Jxeeno has published some "extractions of data" over here
So does Telstra only show RFS dates for areas that have build commenced and is that how jxeeno gets the RFS dates for myNBN website because I have seen the document that shows RFS dates.
Hi UONStudent,
I simply relay the information provided to me on the website. Dates change for a myriad of reasons, however, these reasons are not communicated externally.
thanks for the continued info.
ive just given up on any connection it seems
i got my phone disconnected last week after only being on 3 weeks..they say no ports and that there wont be any more connections even if a port comes up.
the techs tell me diffeent things from you...but they are only the boots on the ground and are probably not getitng all the info or research like you do, so im listening to you first :-)
so wow, three more months on tethered internets and probably more when they decide to delay further and into 2016
edit: should have said the monthly RFS document that revealed the FTTN Trial sites as per
http://www.itnews.com.au/N
my heavens, that "node pic" that they have labelled as an "NBN Node", it sure isn't any of the FTTN cabinets that NBN Co Limited have rolled out, it is listed as a T-Fan on Mynetfones site for a greenfields site but it is not a FTTN cabinet.
https://www.mynetfone.com.au
Just another example of the high quality of tech journalism in Australia I fear, they can't even check what the image is, they find it on a site and just use it
Rivervalle ready for service.... Now if only RSP can get their plans ready.
Hey jxeeno, maybe you can help me out here.
Referring to this rollout:
http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/AYCA-1CQ64Y
Everything suggests we should be RFS today, but the area is still brown on the map.
Also TPG still can't find the address and offer any kind of service.
Any idea when NBN co would update their maps and portals to reflect the information of your site?
Cheers mate.
https://www.mynetfone.com.
The image [3] , has 'blue' fibre!! That's Telstra fibre NOT NBN!!
damn my area said 3 weeks ago
First Build in next 18m*
Q2 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q1 2017
and now :(
First Build in next 18m*
Q4 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q3 2017
shakes fist at Malcolm Turnbull & Bill Morrow
Telstra fibre NOT NBN!!
Early NBN deployments using the type 1 fibre architecture also used blue-sheathed fibre optic cable.
Any idea when NBN co would update their maps and portals to reflect the information of your site?
NBNco generally update the maps the following week.
NBNco generally update the maps the following week.
Thanks Glenn. I actually signed up for an NBN plan with you today I believe.
damn my area said 3 weeks ago
First Build in next 18m*
Q2 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q1 2017
and now :(
First Build in next 18m*
Q4 2016
Last RFS in next 18m*
Q3 2017
shakes fist at Malcolm Turnbull & Bill Morrow
This may be a blessing in disguise, if there's a change of government before this, you could end up with FTTP instead.
This may be a blessing in disguise, if there's a change of government before this, you could end up with FTTP instead.
Labor is not going back into a full FTTP rollout again they are going to adopt the MTM rollout.
Source: http://delimiter.com.au/2015/
Labor is not going back into a full FTTP rollout again they are going to adopt the MTM rollout.
Please don't source Delimiter as credible news.
That article is clearly marked "opinion".
Sorry then...
delete
ive looked on this here map http://www.telstrawholesale.c
Its shows three numbers in the yellow area....
where the 95 and 77 are there are those bullet shaped telstra pillars and next to them are node cabinets
im in the area serviced by 64 which has one of those rim cabinets. does this mean i wont get fttn after all? Im gonna be stuck using a wireless dongle for the rest of my bloomin life
No you will get FTTN. Your connection may go through the Nodes at sites 95 or 77.
ive looked on this here map http://www.telstrawholesale.
i've tried to guess what my map would be, any chance there's a 'list' of those docs anywhere?
Labor is not going back into a full FTTP rollout again they are going to adopt the MTM rollout.
Source: http://delimiter.com.au/2015
and then compare this with the statements from the Labor conference (some of which have been posted in, there is a vast difference.)
see here for the Labor Statements, whrl.pl/Remoha
The Delimiter article is an opinion piece
i've tried to guess what my map would be, any chance there's a 'list' of those docs anywhere?
if you go to
https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/ and enter your address or one very close you will see a map and on the left will be some information showing the DA that you are in, the map will give you the DA boundaries. You can also then move the place pin around and get the shapes of other DAs.
From there you can use eyes, feet and google map street view to try and locate your pillar and possible node site
What does Bespoke Connection Required really mean?
NBN has gone live in my area but the NBN website says "There may be an issue at your specific address."
mynbn.info says "Bespoke Connection Required"
There are 5 freestanding units on the block, but all had the outside boxes installed and cables run to the street 6 months to a year ago.
I called a provider and asked a few months back, they said maybe they ran out of connections in the street due to the 5 units, but I think they were just guessing. Alternative theories seem to be a paperwork backlog for MDUs, or wrong information in the database.
Can anyone shed any light? Is it anything that can be hastened by following up, or is it just a case of sit tight and wait?
Thanks for any info,
Andrew
You should call the nbn call centre and ask if you haven't already.
What does Bespoke Connection Required really mean?
Can anyone shed any light? Is it anything that can be hastened by following up, or is it just a case of sit tight and wait?
A "bespoke connection" is a specialised connection. Most houses in my street were relatively simple hook ups from the pole to the house eave. I started to worry when my house appeared to have been skipped, however in my case, "bespoke connection" required a separate team of contractors who specialised in units or other unique underground connections to complete the work.
These guys turned up with ground penetrating radar to locate the route of the comms conduit beneath the driveway and marked out the route with some form of wash away paint. This allowed them to determine the length of the conduit for their draw cable etc.
So, sit tight and wait. They haven't forgotten about your house.
any chance there's a 'list' of those docs anywhere?
Yep sure
http://www.telstrawholesale.
scroll to the bottom, go hunting !!
Krowey
You should call the nbn call centre and ask if you haven't already.
I called them a couple of months back but they couldn't really tell me anything � their best guess was they had run out of connections for the address in the street.
These guys turned up with ground penetrating radar to locate the route of the comms conduit beneath the driveway and marked out the route with some form of wash away paint. This allowed them to determine the length of the conduit for their draw cable etc.
All that stuff was done about a year ago... the fibre from the units to the street is there. I had a long chat to the guys that installed it while they waited for a plumber after nicking a water pipe. That was 6-9 months before the street itself became active.
I have been waiting patiently. I just sometimes wonder whether somebody is waiting for a notification that will never come because there is nothing left to do...
Just a question good people, if in the list of our Service region for 4GLS myNBN is showing combined percentages (Fixed Line) of Service Classes 1 + 3 (to 96% premises count), does this mean a wholly FTTp build ?
I have searched around and it is hard to unlock this snip of info ...
Krowey
How accurate is all the information on mynbn.info? My suburb is shaded in orange, but when I type my address in it says "No rollout plan yet". Is my suburb no longer in the 18 month plan or something?
The rollout hasn't started in your region yet. It will only update when your region is it build prep or build commenced.
Have you recently checked the plan? Was updated 1st of July.
The rollout hasn't started in your region yet. It will only update when your region is it build prep or build commenced.
Have you recently checked the plan? Was updated 1st of July.
Haven't checked it actually (don't know where to find it), but I checked my Service Area then (4MGB) and my suburb is on the Indicative Localities list, if that means anything.
Haven't checked it actually (don't know where to find it), but I checked my Service Area then (4MGB) and my suburb is on the Indicative Localities list, if that means anything.
Hi TheRealFace,
Apologies for the confusion, the map is out of date.
While your area was listed as being in the 18 month plan in April 2015, it has since been removed in the July revision of the plan. nbn� has not provided any reasoning for the removal, however, you may wish to contact them to see if they have anything useful to say about the removal.
I will update the map as soon as possible.
Cheers,
jx
Just a question good people, if in the list of our Service region for 4GLS myNBN is showing combined percentages (Fixed Line) of Service Classes 1 + 3 (to 96% premises count), does this mean a wholly FTTp build ?
Hi ClaudeKrowe,
Those percentage and figures are only applicable to rollouts currently in place (i.e. areas in build or build prep). It does not account for areas that are in the 18 month plan... because nbn� does not release technology mix information to the public.
However, I am told that early modelling of the 4GLS area will have ~9% FTTP and the rest FTTN.
Hope that helps.
It does not account for areas that are in the 18 month plan... because nbn� does not release technology mix information to the public.
However, I am told that early modelling of the 4GLS area will have ~9% FTTP and the rest FTTN
Thanks for clarifying that jxeeno,
I can only hope that the lucky number 9 that popped up for me when i was in my youth follows me 39 - 40 years hence
Ha Ha
Krowey
I have a question for you Jxeeno, I live on a boarder of 6MDR-06/07 and I'm fairly close to 6MDR-06-12 I was wondering if there was any chance I could get put onto that box instead of waiting for my area (fiber already going to that box atm) would there be any point in contacting NBN directly to ask or should I just wait?
nope. not going to happen.
I live on a boarder border of 6MDR-06/07
any chance I could get put onto that box instead of waiting for my area
Have you any concept of the amount of work and expense that would be required to shift the line from your current pillar or cabinet to another one?
Have you any concept of the amount of work and expense that would be required to shift the line from your current pillar or cabinet to another one?
Well considering I'm asking the question shouldn't it be obvious... sorry I don't know everything such as yourself.
would there be any point in contacting NBN directly to ask
Hi Daniel,
being a huge ask to connect up enormous numbers of householders in the entire continent (Tasmania included) having customers contact nbn direct, I think they recognise that would swamp them. I understand the argument you are making though.
The best thing is to wait for the householder communication from nbn (at Ready for Service) and then contact your preferred ISP direct for an nbn connection.
ALSO
Could I just make a community wide request to please just respect others when you post, not all members who read in here are versed with supreme levels of knowledge and if we lambast people it will make it less welcoming for newcomers to the forums
Thanks
ClaudeKrowe
Apparently the 3LEO-51-09 Ruby fixed wireless site (Leongatha, VIC area) has been switched on for over a month (eg. refer http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3LEO-51-09-RUBY ).
Does anyone know why NBN are so tardy in showing the active extent of this site on their rollout map?
Apparently the 3LEO-51-09 Ruby fixed wireless site (Leongatha, VIC area) has been switched on for over a month (eg. refer http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/3LEO-51-09-RUBY ).
Does anyone know why NBN are so tardy in showing the active extent of this site on their rollout map?
I've just done another check, and I'm confident that the area is online.
Could you help me confirm by going to http://www.devotednbn.com.au/sq and performing a service qualification of your address to see if you can get a service?
Does anyone know why NBN are so tardy in showing the active extent of this site on their rollout map?
because their rollout map uses Google Maps and not their own database
Could you help me confirm by going to http://www.devotednbn.com.au/sq and performing a service qualification of your address to see if you can get a service?
Not possible.
The boundary to our land lies 10 m outside the NBN mapped area currently served by 3LE0=51-09 (that zone is marked purple). Our house is 70 m outside the corresponding wireless coverage area. Because we have a clear line of sight to both of these wireless towers from our rooftop, I asked Aussie Broadband to try & get us onto the NBN coverage map (they seemed fairly positive about getting us onto the map - eventually).
The Ruby tower is actually a bit closer to us (8.9 km) and I was wondering why the Ruby area isn't marked purple yet. Addresses in the orange area around Ruby simply show as build currently in progress - ie on NBNco map (eg. addresses on Ruby Arawata Rd, Ruby). However the Ruby tower was supposedly turned on on July 7. EDIT { Your link shows Ruby addresses as having service available. }
I was simply checking to see if our land had been added to the fixed wireless active zone & I wondered why the map at Ruby hasn't turned purple yet.
I was simply checking to see if our land had been added to the fixed wireless active zone & I wondered why the map at Ruby hasn't turned purple yet.
Ahh okay, yeah. Ruby is definately online, but nbn�'s maps still haven't been updated yet (not sure why though).
If you're really keen to see the colour change, you can contact nbn� about it :) There's not a lot I can do to help the process.
Would anyone have info regarding the rollout in 2190 (NSW) ?
Would anyone have info regarding the rollout in 2190 (NSW) ?
nothing listed for brownfields via www.mybnb.info
and nothing showing via www.nbnco.com.au
Looks like 9QBN-05 has been updated on the Telstra list.
Moved forward from February to 18th December 2015?
9QBN-05 Queanbeyan, Queanbeyan West, Karabar ACT Queanbeyan CSA 18-Dec-2015
https://www.telstrawholesale
Does that line up with what you see, jxeeno?
Cheers!
Getting an error message when I try looking at the ADA ID info http://www.mynbn.info/ada/6MDR-06-02.
Getting an error message when I try looking at the ADA ID info
When you get closer to RFS, they will all appear. My area is RFS 2nd October, the ADA info only appeared just over a month or so ago.
all i know is this time time next year i'll still be here where i am now..... dsl..
Getting an error message when I try looking at the ADA ID info http://www.mynbn.info/ada/6MDR-06-02.
Sorry about that... page has now been generated :)
@jxeeno
Should I read anything into the fact that the DeVoted SQ tool shows my property as "Service Class 0" i.e. set for FTTP, but myNBN does not..?
The myNBN site shows that the general area I'm in will eventually be getting FTTN (part of the 18 month plan which keeps slipping further behind). Though there are several greenfields all around me already active with FTTP, and this whole area would have been one of the first ones in the country for going all FTTP (until the change of Govt' threw that out the window).
I wonder if DeVoted are thus basing theirs on some out-dated info' in some locations.
Anyway, thanks for providing such a great site and all the effort you put in. Much appreciated.
I wonder if DeVoted are thus basing theirs on some out-dated info' in some locations.
In short, while DeVoteD NBN queries nbn's database directly � until your area enters build/build preparation, nbn's database doesn't necessarily reflect which technology you will end up getting.
Seems to be a couple of 'super nodes' in 2HAM-09. Able to reach several hundreds of premises in a single node. Look, down on the path, its a box, its a fridge...
ADA ID Status Technology Active on* P's# Serviceable^ Connected^
2HAM-09-13 Inactive copper 628 0 (None) 0 (None)
2HAM-09-14 Inactive copper 1145 0 (None) 0 (None)
Seems to be a couple of 'super nodes' in 2HAM-09. Able to reach several hundreds of premises in a single node. Look, down on the path, its a box, its a fridge...
An ADA does not necessarily represent the area represented by a single node. In this case, there are multiple nodes in 2HAM-09-14.
362 Glebe Road has 422 units, 364 Glebe Rd has another 516 units each which will likely be served by several FTTB "nodes" inside the premises.
For all intents and purposes, they will be part of the 2HAM-09-14 ADA... but will eventually be forked off into a separate MPS (multi-premises site) ADA when the rollout is completed.
is there any news regarding 9MNS FSA?
is there any news regarding 9MNS FSA?
According to the latest corporate plan, most of the build in ACT has been pushed off till after 2018 � but the company has not specified which specific ACT areas this impacts.
For all intents and purposes, they will be part of the 2HAM-09-14 ADA... but will eventually be forked off into a separate MPS (multi-premises site) ADA when the rollout is completed.
What about other areas where there is one large-ish MDU in the area?
e.g. the 2HAM-12-11 ADA has a 96-unit MDU in it which make up a part of the 318 premises total. The 2HAM-12-11-FNO-001 node has appeared up on the street a block or so away. The DA is currently fed by a RIM, HAMN:DA20 which seems to map to the same area.
Will an extra node magically appear do you think? And when, considering all the other nodes around here seem to be pretty close to completion. Alternatively who can we ask about this?
Ah yes, MDU/MPS makes sense now, thanks for that. So the current count of ADAs now is really the minimum number of "nodes" so far.
It will be interesting to watch that information evolve as it will answer a few questions around:
- when (what situation or premises count) they'd deploy in-building FTTB
- when they'd stick an extra node nearby to perhaps share between several MDUs and
- when the MDU just has to share the ordinary node connected to the local pillar.
What about other areas where there is one large-ish MDU in the area?
e.g. the 2HAM-12-11 ADA has a 96-unit MDU in it which make up a part of the 318 premises total. The 2HAM-12-11-FNO-001 node has appeared up on the street a block or so away. The DA is currently fed by a RIM, HAMN:DA20 which seems to map to the same area.
14 Milford St has 101-subpremises � so that unit block will get its own FTTB DSLAM. At a later date, that may be forked off as a separate MPS ADA for reporting purposes... but is technically still part of the 2HAM-12-11 ADA.
The remaining 217 premises will be connected using the 384 port node (2HAM-12-11-FNO-001) that you've found.
Will an extra node magically appear do you think? And when, considering all the other nodes around here seem to be pretty close to completion. Alternatively who can we ask about this?
I don't see why an extra node will need to appear.
Ah yes, MDU/MPS makes sense now, thanks for that. So the current count of ADAs now is really the minimum number of "nodes" so far.
You could infer that, I guess. An ADA almost always corresponds with the area serviced by a Telstra DA... within it, network designs allow for multiple DSLAMs (nodes) for different purposes like FTTB in MDUs.
Will an extra node magically appear do you think?
^
so that unit block will get its own FTTB DSLAM
That answers my question :) - in this case a FTTB DSLAM appears and not a full on node.
I suppose the nomination that the build is "FTTN" when it can include portions of FTTB is a bit confusing but it seems like there is no real easy way to find this out.
Edit: Still more information than just "fixed line" though, which I'm thankful for :)
I suppose the nomination that the build is "FTTN" when it can include portions of FTTB is a bit confusing but it seems like there is no real easy way to find this out.
Yeah, I think it really should be FTTx rather than FTTN � but NBN insists on using FTTN as the classification.
Hmm, I've missed something. Some MPSes are listed as "High Value Build", what does this mean? I can see FTTB listed, but wondering about that description.
I interpreted it as "NBN for people that live in very expensive (that's the "high value") apartments" :)
I interpreted it as "NBN for people that live in very expensive (that's the "high value") apartments" :)
It's the selected build of multi premises sites (or MDUs) that are considered competitive. It's in response to the likes of TPG who are building their own networks in the lucrative inner-city market.
in the lucrative inner-city
jxeeno,
Just to draw your attention from city fttb back out to Regional QLD for a mo
Particularly 4GLS � GLADSTONE, as it is now 1-9 and read somewhere october (starting)
Any news on 4GLS Service Classes or other data like such. According to the NBN Bundy forum threads they are very well advanced there and move up to here next, from what I read, between the lines
Keen to see the trucks with the big rolls of bright green cable
Does anyone know what UPLOAD speeds a typical fttN home connection gets?
Thanks
Krowey
Hi All,
I just have a general question as I'm currently in a brownfields estate where Telstra has commenced work on repairing pits etc. in order for us to get NBN (FTTN) now on the 18 month plan.
Considering I'm on what is classed as a 'semi-rural' property how exactly can I locate where my nearest pillar and possible node site is?
I do currently have ADSL2 which was recently 'upgraded' via a tophat (now I get 6mbps) so is that the location where my FTTN would then jump onto copper?
As I need to increase my upload capacity I'm thinking about lodging a request with NBN for a FTTP estimate due to my speed issue relating to length and quality of copper now.
I did read that this would be cheaper when logged during the planning phase but would like an idea of roughly how far away the node would be.
Thanks in advance
how exactly can I locate where my nearest pillar and possible node site is?
http://www.adsl2exchanges.com.au/
Plug your address in and around the red boundry is where a Pillar should be.
Plug your address in and around the red boundry is where a Pillar should be.
Many thanks for that, but my address simply draws a straight line back to the exchange (which I presume means I am connected directly to the exchange)
That looks like a long cable run for FTTH
I do currently have ADSL2 which was recently 'upgraded' via a tophat (now I get 6mbps) so is that the location where my FTTN would then jump onto copper?
Ignore above, adsl2exchanges is useless for cabinets.
Punch address into:
https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
That will narrow down your DA, which will be the location of your cabinet. It won't pinpoint it, but should narrow it down a lot for you to have a look next time you drive round the area. The tophat upgrades are glaringly obvious as it's usually a really old discoloured cabinet with a brand new cabinet 'hat' plonked on top. From there, measure along roads back to your place. At a guess about ~3.5km or so cable length based on your sync.
Upload capacity will likely increase, however you aren't going to have a particularly great FTTN experience if they don't move or add in any new cabinets unfortunately.
Upload capacity will likely increase, however you aren't going to have a particularly great FTTN experience if they don't move or add in any new cabinets unfortunately.
Many thanks for your help kind sir, You are almost spot on (my cabinet is approx 3.2km away.
I'm guess due to the low density residential element literally on 'this side of the road' (the other is all full fibre Greenfields) that my only chance to improve this would be for NBN Fibre on demand.
4km of fibre could cost a pretty penny � I'll see what they have to say.
4km of fibre could cost a pretty penny � I'll see what they have to say.
I haven't checked in a while, but I think the deal was if you were scheduled for FTTN you had to wait till that happened first. I could very much be wrong however.
And no problemo, glad you found it :)
Sorry Dan, I accidently linked you to the wrong thing. Thats my fault for not having my morning coffee. :P Lucky, Lukey caught onto my mistake.
Many thanks for your help kind sir, You are almost spot on (my cabinet is approx 3.2km away.
I'm guess due to the low density residential element literally on 'this side of the road' (the other is all full fibre Greenfields) that my only chance to improve this would be for NBN Fibre on demand.
This is a bit off track for this thread, but the other thing to consider in this situation is how far away all the other premises in your DA are from that cabinet? I've seen many cases where the existing cabinet is hundreds of metres, if not more, from the nearest premises in the DA. Often when served by a cabinet there is no corresponding pillar either, or the cabinet is shared by multiple DAs where one gets a pillar and the other doesn't.
I'd suggest they would likely install the node and possibly a new pillar at a more central/closer aggregation point (as has happened elsewhere) if the distance is that great to most premises in the DA. 1km+ from the node is going to test the viability of VDSL, let alone 3km! I'd be waiting to see what happens first.
This is a bit off track for this thread
Agreed an apologies to the op (mods feel free to move where applicable)
In my area I'm probably in the same position as approximately 30% of users connected to that cabinet (some are further away)
It will be interesting to see what they do as the average block width in my area is 60 � 70m wide so we are spread out considerably.
I appreciate your detailed response and part of my thinking as it is in planning stage this is the apparently the cheapest time to apply, yet my application mat result in me wearing unnecessary cost (as they were going to install new hardware anyway, but now we have someone else to pay for it.
Next time I see the technicians out I'll have a chat as they have all been incredibly helpful when I've asked them a question in the past about it.
@jxeeno � Just a quick message to say thank you for all of the valuable information you have provided with regards to the nbn rollout. My area (2DAP-06) went live today and out of all of the RSPs and websites I asked to notify me of when it went live, you guys are the only ones I have received notification from. Awesome work and again, Thank You.
Hey Jex, when can we expect the map/RFS updates? thanks :)
that sweet green cable is getting laid in my street in the last couple of days (6MDR-07) yay!
Hey Jex, when can we expect the map/RFS updates? thanks :)
that sweet green cable is getting laid in my street in the last couple of days (6MDR-07) yay!
Currently expecting it next Friday or the Monday after :) It's a bit of a wobbly week of updates though... with the expected long term rollout plan and also public holidays.
Hi jxeeno,
The wireless towers appear to be missing from the mynbn.info map. Is an update in progress?
regards
TheGruff
The wireless towers appear to be missing from the mynbn.info map. Is an update in progress?
Ahh, sorry about that. Issue has been fixed in the back now, but will take a short while for Google to update their map caching.
Thanks, now working, and wireless tower information also now displays as well.
A new nbn map update has come out. Just reminding Jxeeno anyways nice work on the website love the look.
Could someone with a little more knowledge about the rollout, particularly wireless areas, explain what's happening with the rollout in some places?
The example being Cohuna in Victoria (and some towns in the surrounding areas). There's a Wireless coverage area surrounding the town which is indicated by the maps as being "Build Commenced", but the actual township is displayed as if it's not covered and any address check reports the roll out not having started yet.
Is this something to do with the planning process, a map or data glitch, or something else completely? What's really happening for these towns like this?
Is this something to do with the planning process
I'd say so � Wikipedia gives town population of 2,313 . Almost certainly too dense for fixed wireless base station coverage.
A FW base station can generally handle only a few hundred connections.
Cohuna will probably have to wait along with many other small towns in regional areas. I guess FFTN (or some other technology) might appear in due course.
Could someone with a little more knowledge about the rollout
Not entirely sure and cannot say 100%. Usually this happens for areas that will be serviced by fixed line in the future. But, there may be a chance it could be serviced by satelite.
Hi jxeeno,
Just a query with the mynbn.info rollout map, when I put my address in you return no service information, but if I use http://www.devotednbn.com.au/sq it returns service class 4 and proposed footprint, the location ID's returned in both systems are the same.
regards
TheGruff
It seems the site is borked :)
Returning a 404
Now it is hanging/slow. Seems Jxeeno is fiddling.
It seems the site is borked :)
Returning a 404
devotednbn.com.au/sq is all good for me
devotednbn.com.au/sq is all good for me
I'm referring to myNBN (which is what this thread is about).
I'm referring to myNBN (which is what this thread is about).
I have no problem with that also. Maybe problem at your end or with your ISP.
been there for some time :) well before Delimiter had published the data.
Cheers mate.
It's been there for some time :) well before Delimiter had published the data.
The 3 year plan RFS and Build Start dates including the millions of HFC rollout to premise planned by Sep 2018.
Check out that delimiter spreadsheet and all its tabs and reconfirm
Are you sure you've even got this data?
Your Site does not show the HFC planned for my area in the address checker and only refers to the 18 month plan.
Your Site does not show the HFC planned for my area in the address checker and only refers to the 18 month plan.
Go to the "3Yr Plan" tab on the top menu and the info is there broken down by state, serving area etc
Go to the "3Yr Plan" tab on the top menu and the info is there broken down by state, serving area etc
I was looking at mynbn.info from an iphone where unlike the desktop version, there is no "tab" for the 3 year plan option. And what you get on the screen is the "Check where the NBN is coming to you".
This mobile version only takes you to the 18 month plan and is missing the 3 year info that the desktop version has on the same equivalent map.
On the mobile version the 3 year info is accessed from a menu represented by a 3 horizontal line icon and not obvious when you go to the entry page which tempts you to type in your address in the address checker.
Also noting that whereas my suburb is only listed as HFC on the 3 year data Delimiter released, my street address on the mynbn.info results in both HFC and FTTN as possible. This is because the Service area for my suburb has one of the suburbs planned to get FTTX and the rest HFC, which for some reason the mynbn website has not split up into suburb specific even though I put my suburb name into the address checker.
This mobile version only takes you to the 18 month plan and is missing the 3 year info that the desktop version has on the same equivalent map.
The map actually shows the 3 year construction plan � but is labeled incorrectly on the map legend. I'll get this fixed soon.
which for some reason the mynbn website has not split up into suburb specific even though I put my suburb name into the address checker.
There's a lot of redevelopment going on in the background so that the site can handle the two technologies in the 3 year plan. Currently, it's able to handle current rollout areas with different technologies � but not future areas with different technologies.
It's not really possible to determine and spit out which access technology you'd be using simply by correlating suburb names alone. I'm working on a geospatial solution by estimating HFC boundaries, but it'll take some time to complete.
Hope you can appreciate the mammoth task that awaits me :)
Hope you can appreciate the mammoth task that awaits me :)
Much appreciated.
In the NBNCo 3 year RFS and Construction Start Date data that Delimiter released last week, if a suburb is only every listed once under the 4 tabs with only one technology (i.e HFC), it is possible that another part of that suburb will get a different technology with build commencing/ending after 3 years.
To map the data against suburb, you'd need to take the rows of data with more than one suburb and split them up into rows of data for each of the suburbs listed in the single field. (into a relational database format). Then you can easily correlate/map the planned indicative technology type(s) with the suburb name.
To map the data against suburb, you'd need to take the rows of data with more than one suburb and split them up into rows of data for each of the suburbs listed in the single field. (into a relational database format). Then you can easily correlate/map the planned indicative technology type(s) with the suburb name.
The current algorithm is a bit more complicated than that, so it's not as easy to implement as one may think :) Be rest assured, I'm working on improving the map. In the meantime, the data is available on the detailed Service Area pages.
May I ask but where do you get the RFS sources from jxeeno?
May I ask but where do you get the RFS sources from jxeeno?
I don't want to speak on behalf of jxeeno, but Telstra publish tentative RFS dates here:
http://telstrawholesale.com.
Download the top xlsx, the 2nd worksheet has expected RFS.
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to see what I'm getting now? 2BER is my place (BERO) and it shows both FTTP and FTTN as roll-out?
jxeeno: when I look up my address in mynbn.info (Bundeena NSW) the map says we are on the three year plan (correct), and that it covers Bundeena and Kurnell (again, correct).
However, it lists the number of premises as 43,600 which is VASTLY more premises than the entire population of Bundeena and Kurnell. The 3 year plan at nbnco.com.au says the number of premises in the Bundeena, Kurnell NBN plan is only 3,600.
link: http://www.mynbn.info/map?add
compare to: NSW Cronulla Bundeena Kurnell 3600 FTTN H1-2017
on page: http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn
Personally, I've worked really hard to discuss with NBN if it's possible to release data � and my conclusion is that it won't happen under the current management. I've sent dozens of emails, sent letters directly to CEO Bill Morrow pleading him to make small amounts of data public � they simply aren't interested.
Did you ever get a reply back from Morrow?
Can anyone tell me if there's a way to see what I'm getting now? 2BER is my place (BERO) and it shows both FTTP and FTTN as roll-out?
FTTN.
FTTN.
See here.
Yeap it's always shown FTTN but now that it's actually progressing on this site, there are 2 SAMs where one appears to be FTTN (current) and the other FTTP (planned). I don't know which I fall under..
Hi jxeeno,
question for you � How long before the ' take up' graphs start populating?
Reason I ask is the fixed wireless towers in my area came online in June http://www.mynbn.info/sa/2GUL, however The 'Take Up' graphs are yet to show anything. mynbn.info has service class 5/6 figures which I guess is what the graphs use?
thanks.
FTTN.
So it says I'll be getting HFC in my area (cable I'm guessing?). Some parts of our area have cable but in my part of the suburb there is no cable at all. I've tried getting cable in the past and was told I had to get it via satellite (no power poles, etc). Does this mean they will be rolling out cable in our streets as well or going with FTTN? Or does it mean I'll just randomly get forgotten? :P
Sir Digby Chicken Caesar writes...
Does this mean they will be rolling out cable in our streets as well or going with FTTN?
Who knows? The technology used will depend on what the relevant comms. engineer decides based on your existing local infrastructure.
The only thing you can be sure of is that, one way or the other, you will get on the NBN network (eventually).
we got our(3WER-05) ready for service from yesterday. Very impressed, NBN brought it forward by almost 3 weeks as previously it was planned not until 27th Nov.
Don't mean to sound mean, but just recently jxeenos website stated nbn servicable now in theory? (that data couldn't be accurate by 1 week right? because i spoke to skymesh.)because a few isp stated "even with your address we cannot get confirmation, and mynnbnco is non affilitated site. so all you can do is keep up todate" total bogus, mynbn website makes nbnco website a crap site.
So how behind is nbnco if mynbn 1 week ahead.( and a few isp will not take the plunge)
Don't mean to sound mean, but just recently jxeenos website stated nbn servicable now in theory?
Who are you not trying to sound mean about?
Find your post a tad confusing
myNBN had my place as active first before NBN and before most if not all ISPs
When myNBN flagged my property as RFS did a poll around RSPs and found that iINET also said my place was active BUT there online application would not process and had to do it over the phone
Keep in mind that my experience is just one anecdote and many others will have a different experience � when an area goes RFS it just means a large percentage of properties are serviceable not all of them
When it is all said and done myNBN is just another source of information that may or may not be of help to you
I did a search o MyNBN regarding my location (Ouyen, Victoria) & it says we are going to get FTTN, I want to know will there be only one node for our town or will every street have one.
Casper The Savannah Cat writes...
I did a search o MyNBN regarding my location (Ouyen, Victoria) & it says we are going to get FTTN, I want to know will there be only one node for our town or will every street have one.
start at this site https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/
enter your address and it will give you a map of copper Distribution areas, not the DA number.
then move the pin around your town to different locations and note all the DA numbers.
I seem to get 7 DAs in the town and including some of the outskirts, but it seems there are actually 8 plus a maybe a RIM
DA Town State Premises
OUYN:1 OUYEN VIC 71
OUYN:2 OUYEN VIC 86
OUYN:3 OUYEN VIC 44
OUYN:4 OUYEN VIC 66
OUYN:5 OUYEN VIC 127
OUYN:6 OUYEN VIC 156
OUYN:8 OUYEN VIC 184
OUYN:BQP33942 OUYEN VIC 86
going by those numbers and the size of the town and the fact that it seems most in town can get over 20 Mbps on ADSL, I can see some DA consolidation taking place
there will be more than 1 node I would guess around 4 or maybe 5 nodes installed
Okay seems a bespoke connections required. Most isp will not bother, what does it mean for unit complexs.
Isnt a mdu situated or placed inside most units power box and then wired up inside the building daisyd floor by floor.
If thats the case where does the internal mdu come from.
I got the impression fttp was (node to mdu via fibre) but seems its ( node to mdu & fibre to internal mdu? or is that ffttb.) sooo confusing.
I've been keeping an eye on MyNBN for awhile now and in the last couple of months my address has gone from Ready For Serivce @ 01.03.2016 to RFS@ Q1 2016. Today the site says it was RFS as of 10.12.15. It is possible the date could jump forward so far?
NBNCO.com.au just says build started Sept 15
Called Telstra and the guy said he uses both sites but wasn't sure and that I should ring NBNco.
Called NBNco and that guy said if the build only started in September 15 that it would probably be mid to late 2016 before it was RFS.
Went for a drive and there is definitely a tower which wasn't there a month or two ago (painted with red and white stripes, I guess because there is an airport nearby).
Should I be getting excited? (I'm on 3G 18gb p/month for $81 and I only get around 50% signal) Or do I possibly still have a lengthy wait on my hands?
Thanks
there is definitely a tower which wasn't there a month or two ago
That means its on its way � but its anyones guess when it'll go RFS.
My tower went up almost 12 months before it went RFS.
There is another tower down the road that went up a month before mine, yet is still in build (that'll 2 years in April)
That means its on its way � but its anyones guess when it'll go RFS.
Does the fact that it says RFS on MyNBN.info, suggest it should be very soon or is it quite often wrong?
Does the fact that it says RFS on MyNBN.info, suggest it should be very soon or is it quite often wrong?
Hey Gurras,
We don't get it wrong too often, however, our automated checker does occasionally jump the gun if there's a nearby fixed wireless tower that has gone live.
Could you please whim or post the tower's region ID so I can do further checks?
Cheers,
jx
thanks for the replies
Could you please whim or post the tower's region ID so I can do further checks?
Rollout ID 2BTH-51-06-GLAM
ADA ID 2BTH-51-06-GLAM-00-03
Rollout ID 2BTH-51-06-GLAM
Thanks for sending this through. Sorry, it does look like we jumped the gun a bit with this fixed wireless site.
The issue was that one of the addresses originally assigned to this tower (along Laffing Waters Lane) was re-assigned to the 2BTH-51-02-BTEH rollout area. The automated checker than presumed that meant your tower went live, where as in fact, it hadn't. I hope this makes sense.
I have fixed the database accordingly. Sorry about the confusion and thanks for the flag!
Cheers,
jx
Sorry, it does look like we jumped the gun a bit with this fixed wireless site.
Dammit! Was getting excited.
Thanks for the quick reply though, at least I wont be pulling my hair out trying to get connected.
Dammit! Was getting excited.
Thanks for the quick reply though, at least I wont be pulling my hair out trying to get connected.
The latest date for 2BTH-51-06-GLAM is 31st Jan 2016. If you haven't already, you can subscribe to the notification service which actually checks if your address is ready for service before notifying you :)
The latest date for 2BTH-51-06-GLAM is 31st Jan 2016.
That's not too bad I guess :)
you can subscribe to the notification service
I have done on the NBNco site.
Thanks again
The issue was that one of the addresses originally assigned to this tower (along Laffing Waters Lane) was re-assigned to the 2BTH-51-02-BTEH rollout area.
Hi Jxeeno,
2BTH-51-06-GLAM is on Limekilns Road, and I was getting exited as well, FW for Christmas. Q1 2016 is still good though. Went to work one morning, no tower. There on the way home.
Laffing Waters Lane is about halfway between those 2 towers.
Any idea why 2COR-08 is listed as MTM even though it was FTTP yesterday? My address still shows as FTTP though :) :)
Has the nbn official site radically changed such that it no longer shows a usable map of your location?
http://www.nbnco.com.au/conn
Has the nbn official site radically changed such that it no longer shows a usable map of your location?
yeah.
colours have gone
area of map is greatly reduced
not able to see the status of what is available nearby
I guess it is more transparent as all you can see is the base map and no other information
edit:- oh and also the date they say the build commenced for my area is also wrong as nodes were being rolled out and connected 2 to 3 months before the date they use for "build commenced"
I guess it is more transparent
Totally ... not!
Thank goodness for jxeeno.
Totally ... not!
Thank goodness for jxeeno.
far less info availablel than before, there is so little on the map now they would have been better to ditch it all together and just use the timeline that they have underneath it
My are apparently goes RTS FEB 5 (according to Telstra Wholesale), less than 7 weeks, yet nbn� can't even put that on the timeline.
Guess it makes it easy for nbn� to claim they are meeting their targets, especially as they only now seem to publish RFS dates after they actually make an area ready
Has the nbn official site radically changed such that it no longer shows a usable map of your location?
I agree.
The NBN is run by Shitmen NFI in my opinion.
Any idea why 2COR-08 is listed as MTM even though it was FTTP yesterday? My address still shows as FTTP though :) :)
My checks show that 2COR-08 has become "MTM" because ~100 premises in an MDU will be serviced by FTTB. The rest will remain FTTP.
My checks show that 2COR-08 has become "MTM" because ~100 premises in an MDU will be serviced by FTTB. The rest will remain FTTP.
Any idea if it is one building or several buildings? The only building that looks to be close to ~100 premises would be Stockland Corrimal.
Also, starting to notice Build Commenced dates for areas that NBNCo have not reported as being announced (e.g. 2PKE-02 Build Commenced 11 Jan 2016). Are these dates accurate or estimations?
Hi guys,
I noticed that my NBN fixed wireless tower at Numurkah has gone RFS as of 16th December.
3NMK-51-04-NUMU � Numurkah
I am within its region, however the NBN website hasn't updated as yet stating thats its RFS.
What should I expect?, ie keep checking the nbnco website until it updates?, or does this not really mean i'll have NBN fixed wireless anytime soon?.
Cheers
The nbn map only update activations once a week. If the MyNBN map says its active, then its active and you can order.
Rang NBN today and they didn't know anything about my tower going live and couldnt help me.
guess it hasnt gone RFS after all :)
guess it hasnt gone RFS after all
mynbn.info says your tower is active now. This site is rarely wrong and usually ahead of the nbnco map. It might be worth ringing a few RSPs such as iinet and seeing whether you can place an order. Some but not all RSPs can access the internal NBN databases.
Rang NBN today and they didn't know anything about my tower going live and couldnt help me.
guess it hasnt gone RFS after all :)
Dont believe a word they say, there run by people who go looking for stripe paint....my area is ready to go live next month i emailed them to ask if its still on schedule, there reply was that my area isnt on there 3 year map.
Lol no worries guys cheers.
I will do some ringing around today.
Hmm rang around and its a no goer :(
Its been a week now and the nbnco website hasn't updated to match mynbn's site for the RFS flag.
Guess it was too good to be true.
Its been a week now and the nbnco website hasn't updated to match mynbn's site for the RFS flag.
the mynbn.info site is showing that work will not even commence for your town until 2017
the mynbn.info site is showing that work will not even commence for your town until 2017
Same with all the HFC, nothing till late 2016 at the earliest for anyone! Faster my a$$!
What should I expect?, ie keep checking the nbnco website until it updates?, or does this not really mean i'll have NBN fixed wireless anytime soon?.
Sorry about that... looks like it suffered from the same problem as /forum-replies.cfm?t=2104304&p=78#r1549
I'll implement a more vigorous checking system for fixed wireless as it seems there's quite a bit of footprint fiddling before an area goes ready for service.
Currently, the date provided by nbn is end of this month. I wouldn't expect it to go live till January (who works during the new year break?)
the mynbn.info site is showing that work will not even commence for your town until 2017
The town centre won't... but surrounding areas will be serviced by fixed wireless before that
Hey Jxeeno,
Some Brownfields 3 Year rollout markers on myNBN map say just FTTN and others, like the one that covers me, says FTTN,FTTP. Does it just say both technologies because there are FTTP Greenfield estates surrounding me (I'm literally encircled in a less than 1 km radius by FTTP estates) ?
Good news, just checked and the tower has gone live and we can now in fact put an order in according to the official NBN website.
Will put an order in and see what happens.
Cheers guys.
Why is the FTTN section of mynbn down?
Why is the FTTN section of mynbn down?
maybe because the modelling has become inaccurate?
Just wondering if there is an issue with 2HAM-08. it has been saying RFS on 8/12/15 however the NBNCO page (plus NBNCO customer service (via email), TPG and Exetel) and the Telstra spreadsheet are all saying not yet (or Jan 22). All the surrounding SAMs are also saying 22-jan on mynbn and elsewhere so i'm suspecting a localised issue??
http://telstrawholesale.com
All the surrounding SAMs are also saying 22-jan on mynbn and elsewhere so i'm suspecting a localised issue??
Pretty sure that almost all RFS dates were pushed back at some point. Maybe even a couple of times. myNBN seems to be fairly updated on that.
I've received hardcopy flyers that I can now order broadband over nbn.
The nbnco website indicate we are connected and can switch to their infrastructure.
Checking my address mynbn.info indicates no rollout schedule available, however the map has my building in purple, ie: Ready for Service.
Only iiNet appears able to detect that I'm connected: Telstra, Optus, AusBBS, Belong all think we're not.
Is there issues with apartment buildings and numbers?
Or is there an issue with FTTB connections?
Checking my address mynbn.info
what does the official nbn� site say when you put in your address?
http://www.nbnco.com
what does the official nbn� site say when you put in your address?
Zilch
what does the official nbn� site say when you put in your address?
http://www.nbnco.com
Great news! You can now switch to the nbn� network.
...
Your address will be connected to the nbn� network via fixed line technology.
I'm in an MDU so FTTB should be the technology used. I cannot remember which page i saw this on, but it stated that it used both fibre and copper for the connection.
I cannot remember which page i saw this on, but it stated that it used both fibre and copper for the connection.
Fibre to the basement, if you have one. And a node will be installed there, connecting to your existing copper.
Fibre to the basement, if you have one. And a node will be installed there, connecting to your existing copper.
or as has seen to be done in Woy Woy and Newcastle, a seperate node out the front in the street for the MDU
a seperate node out the front in the street for the MDU
Or even the same node used to service many others in the neighbourhood
Has the same problem occurred to 7CYE-51-08-GEEV?
I checked myNBN last week & it said service would be available end of Feb.. checked again today & now its saying its available as of 2 days ago :/
TIA!
edit: sorry, I have no idea how to quote a post! :(
Hey all,
So I have a question. The MyNBN Info tells me that the tower I can see from my front door is active, but the map shows I can't get Fixed Wireless. My line of thought is that at the roadside � no, we can't see the tower, but up on the hill where my house sits, I can see it out my lounge room window!
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
Any assistance would be great.
Not sure whether its worth editing, but you show 8NLN-01 as ready for service on the 16th December. NBN Co made a mistake declaring it ready for service and the earliest date for connections to commence is now 11/01/16
Caused a flow on effect of confusion as RSP's were relying on the info from NBN Co and booking activations � which couldnt actually happen and led to some pretty angry consumers!
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
Any assistance would be great.
The tower may be active, but nbnco have drawn a line on the maps.
If you are not on their map , you don't get it.. Simple as that.
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
Any assistance would be great.
The tower may be active, but nbnco have drawn a line on the maps.
If you are not on their map , you don't get it.. Simple as that.
That's sucks!! I am about 5kms away line of sight and would get great speeds, and with no ADSL here, I am screwed!
I am about 5kms away line of sight and would get great speeds, and with no ADSL here, I am screwed!
Satellite for you..
Awesome, I now have fixed wireless available........at my back fence! Fixed wireless tower for my town has just gone live but of course I can't get on it as I am in town and it is only servicing the surrounding region.
I'm trying to get an answer from NBN as to why I can't access fixed wireless in the interim. Is there more to it than getting an antenna installed for a couple of years, and then removing it once FTTN is available??
as to why I can't access fixed wireless in the interim
Don't waste your time. It won't happen. Many people have tried and failed. They will simply refuse.
Any map/RFS updates coming soon?
Thanks. :)
just a note jxeeno,
Not a criticism, just a point to be aware of, at
http://www.mynbn.info/map?ad
Zoom back out a few rolls of the mouse and look, South East of the Rockhampton CBD, there are five blocks of FW � over the Fitzroy River
I feel they are probably covering FW footprints one one side or the other (of the River)
Great work on the updates, thanks
ClaudeKrowe
Central Qld
Hey all,
Sorry, it's been a busy week for me. Getting to your questions now :)
Cheers,
jx
Has the same problem occurred to 7CYE-51-08-GEEV?
I checked myNBN last week & it said service would be available end of Feb.. checked again today & now its saying its available as of 2 days ago :/
Hmm, possibly. It looks like even though I made changes to do additional checks, it wasn't sufficient to keep out this case because a large number of premises got reallocated to an adjacent tower.
I will try and look for other solutions � thanks for letting me know.
Any map/RFS updates coming soon?
January is generally a bit flaky. Most of us are expecting an updated 3 year construction plan and monthly rollout plan to come out next week *fingers crossed*
Zoom back out a few rolls of the mouse and look, South East of the Rockhampton CBD, there are five blocks of FW � over the Fitzroy River
I feel they are probably covering FW footprints one one side or the other (of the River)
The maps are created by nbn, so this appears to be a case where edge premises are assigned to FW.
Not sure whether its worth editing, but you show 8NLN-01 as ready for service on the 16th December. NBN Co made a mistake declaring it ready for service and the earliest date for connections to commence is now 11/01/16
Thanks for letting me know!
I'm going to wait for an official update on this. It may be the case that while they've declared the area ready for service, they simply don't have capacity to connect people yet.
Since "ready for service" has many implications (e.g. it will determine when the copper disconnection date is), I'm keen to get the official word on what the status of 8NLN-01 :)
How can I find out what is going on? How can the tower be active, I can see it, but not get service?
If you whim me your address, I can have a look at it for you :)
jxeeno, dumb question: what's the difference between the dark red versus light red areas of the zoomed out maps? eg. map search "vic, 3150", and zoom out once. There's areas that are darker red than others?
Also, on definition / glossary page, please add in 'high value build'
Thanks for a great site, I use it more often than the real nbn one :D
I'm not even on 3year plan.
maybe thankful for small mercies?
you might get FTTP before all of us who are about to be noded
jxeeno, dumb question: what's the difference between the dark red versus light red areas of the zoomed out maps? eg. map search "vic, 3150", and zoom out once. There's areas that are darker red than others?
I think you're referring to the orange colour? It's actually an artifact overlapping rasters of the 3 year shading... so denser areas appear darker. I've been planning to change the way the rasters are rendered for some time now... but never got around to it :(
Also, on definition / glossary page, please add in 'high value build'
done, thanks :)
you might get FTTP before all of us who are about to be noded
YES Dazed & Confused, I agree with this. People who have no choice but to wait (like us) may indeed get the better connection in the end ... as long as the DSL is a reasonable quality in the intervening time frame!
ClaudeKrowe
and monthly rollout plan
You mean this one:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
that hasn't been updated since October? I guess you have access to the private / inside information for your monthly rollout updates.
Have any additional high value FTTB releases been announced. Almost all the first phase seems to have been done.
I think you're referring to the orange colour? It's actually an artifact overlapping rasters of the 3 year shading... so denser areas appear darker
Yes I was, thanks for the explanation
You mean this one:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
that hasn't been updated since October? I guess you have access to the private / inside information for your monthly rollout updates.
I'm referring to the monthly map update when nbn adds new areas :) it is true that internally, nbn creates documents at that time of the month to coincide with the monthly map update.
You mean this one:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
that hasn't been updated since October?
The document itself has been updated several times since October but they don't seem to change the date on the webpage containing the link you gave so its hard to know that any update has taken place.
I see this months update is up on the NBN site, not that it really tells you anything that you didnt already know
Received my "NBN Service Update � Address Serviceable" email last night advising our area had just gone RFS for FTTH, allowing myself to get in nice and early to apply to my RSP.
Kudos to you jxeeno for your website and the update email service! Very much appreciated � I just hope you are able to profit from your efforts also.
Have the latest updates been input into mynbn? 4EDM-03 shows as build prep on mynbn, but search of NBN co shows it as in build.
I notice in build prep areas there are specific dates of "build started" some have specific dates ie jan 4 � jan 18 ... etc, some just have a month, are these these official build start dates and we can expect the map to go build on mynbn.info's next update?
cheers.
Have the latest updates been input into mynbn? 4EDM-03 shows as build prep on mynbn, but search of NBN co shows it as in build.
Updated information has just arrived... dates and data have been updated accordingly. If there is any information that looks wildly out of whack, please do let me know. :)
I notice in build prep areas there are specific dates of "build started" some have specific dates ie jan 4 � jan 18 ... etc, some just have a month, are these these official build start dates and we can expect the map to go build on mynbn.info's next update?
There are estimated build commence dates for areas that are currently in build preparation. As with the ready for service dates, these are estimates and are subject to change. You can expect the rollout map to reflect the "build commenced" status one month after an area is said to have commenced build.
As a side note, I will be updating the map sharings on Monday to reflect the latest map update.
Hi jxeeno, do you know if 2NWR-04 has gone RFS 2 months early or if it is simply a glitch or mistake?
When I check my address using: http://www.nbnco.com.au/conne
I get "Service available", "Great news! You can now switch to the nbn� network."
When I check my address using this instead: http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
The map shows 2NWR-04 with service available shading:
http://i.imgur.com/4ppb6HH.png
The expected RFS of 2NWR-04 on myNBN is currently 16 Mar 2016.
Updated information has just arrived... dates and data have been updated accordingly. If there is any information that looks wildly out of whack, please do let me know. :)
This could probably go in the Rollout thread, but a lot of my assumptions are based on the great info you've been providing Jxeeno...
It's been bugging me for a while now, where the "new" FTTN information is from NBN... Anything new seems to have been put on pause for about 6 months now.
Up until August last year there was a steady stream of FTTN SAMs being announced as starting Build Prep, then Build Commenced and so on. Since then there has been no new areas reported as starting Build Prep. Even the Prep additions for August 2015 in your post here are not showing up on either MyNBN or the current communities document. So the last areas into Prep are really July 2015.
Perhaps they'd greatly over committed the planned areas for the achievable rollout speed and had to reign in the horses. Maybe the impending HFC start up is/will be diverting resources this year. Maybe they're just not releasing the info anymore? The optimistic side of me is really hoping its because they've ditched FTTN and will shortly announce a move to FTTdp.
There's been information about Design ready areas, but nothing going past that point. Perhaps I'm reading too much into it, but I would have thought a project of this size had to keep moving forward to achieve their self-proclaimed "heroic" targets...
Hi jxeeno, do you know if 2NWR-04 has gone RFS 2 months early or if it is simply a glitch or mistake?
Hey Gariscus,
Doing a random sample of 10 premises in 2NWR-04, I cannot find a single location that's actually "serviceable". I suspect someone at the nbn mapping department pressed the wrong button :)
Sorry I don't have better news!
Cheers,
jx
It looks like nbn.com has been updated again.
Now it doesn't show the shaded areas at all on the rollout map.
Welcome to the new "transparent" (quote: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull) NBN.
First they removed FTTP areas, then they added the FTTN shaded areas, now they've even removed that.
Trying to obscure the NBN rollout even further.
I suspect someone at the nbn mapping department pressed the wrong button :)
I thought it would be something like that. Oh well, I've been waiting for years, I can easily wait another couple of months. Plus hopefully due to AVC trunking SkyMesh should be in my area around that time.
Now it doesn't show the shaded areas at all on the rollout map.
You can still see the shaded areas through this: http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
It looks like nbn.com has been updated again.
Now it doesn't show the shaded areas at all on the rollout map.
it has been like that for about 2 or 3 months
if you go in via this page http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
and then scroll down to
Check the nbn� network rollout map
there is a link that still shows colours on a search, for how long though, who knows
York WA has finished for fixed wireless howver im located in central york and wireless is denied to our address even though the transmitters at mt blackwell and balladong and the red line between them goes straight over our area. The entire are of York is covered except for the central area.Obviously the powers that be have decided that 20mbps adsl is good enough and we dont need the option .Even more annoying is nbn providers keep dropping off marketing in our mail box. I feel like ringing up southern phone and telling to check residential address before blanketing York with their mail drops.
So much for nbn.
York is set for FTTN at the end of year.
York is set for FTTN at the end of year.
Were did you get that info ? Will it cover the remaining central area ?
Old tech , should be FTTP but you know do it on the cheap.
Were did you get that info ? Will it cover the remaining central area ?
Yes: http://www.mynbn.info/map?add
The reason why nbn doesn't allow premises in the centre of York (and most other suburbs around Australia) to access the Fixed Wireless technology is because it is normally only designated for the outskirts of towns and suburbs.
The denser, central areas of suburbs will usually get a fixed-line technology like HFC � or in your case, either FTTP or FTTN.
This keeps the fixed wireless towers less congested and means that premises in the denser parts of suburbs can generally get faster speeds.
The denser, central areas of suburbs will usually get a fixed-line technology like HFC � or in your case, either FTTP or FTTN.
This keeps the fixed wireless towers less congested and means that premises in the denser parts of suburbs can generally get faster speeds.
Yep same thing for my area, fixed nbn wireless for the outskirt for my town and the within actual townsite is slated for FTTN rollout later this year
Fixed-Line FTTX Unknown ?????
Whats does that mean jxeeno ?
Fixed-Line FTTX Unknown ?????
Whats does that mean jxeeno ?
X = unknown. Generally meaning some form of Fibre to The X. This is now known as N which is FTTN.
Ok thanks for the info. I was just a little frustrated as the check my address on nbn says nothing and I hadn't come across this other map.
So been reading about FTTN and all the rantings how its old tech and still relying on copper to the premises. My opinion is if your still relying on copper to the premises then FTTN is a waste of time. Future proof is FTTP . But that's money.
Will it seriously boost my current adsl 20mbps speed ?
Can I get ssome clarification on this ?
"First RFS in next 3yrs*"
regards
"First RFS in next 3yrs*"
Taken from myNBNs data on York
First RFS in next 3yrs*
H2 2017
This means the first area Ready For Service (RFS) will be in the second half of 2017. With York being small it only has 1 SAM. This would mean York will finish construction and be RFS by the second half of 2017 providing theres not many delays. Then you will be able to connect to the NBN.
X = unknown. Generally meaning some form of Fibre to The X. This is now known as N which is FTTN.
Sorry i meant to say this below
Projected # Premises
(may only include 3 yr plan#)
Fixed-Line FTTX Unknown
Projected # SAMs
(may only include 3 yr plan#)
6MRG-XX
(FTTN)
Fixed-Line FTTX 1
Status Planned
Build ~ Q4 2016
RFS ~ H2 2017
Q3 for Build Preparation......June or July timeframe
hehehe will be interesting to see how bad the region�s ageing copper network is really ?
https://au.news.yahoo.com/th
"upgrades to Telstra�s transit network as the main challenges for the Margaret River rollout.
�The Margaret River exchange has always been problematic for us, � he said."
What did they mean by "upgrades to Telstra's transit network" not enough existing fibre optic that runs to the exchange or what ?
Hi jxeeno,
site 2BTH-51-06-GLAM went live mid January , the nbnco site is showing my address as being RFS and I have FW installation scheduled for tomorrow, but mynbn.info is still showing it as class 4.
edit: the map does show the area as RFS, just not the address
Searched the map in my area and the tower location is actually incorrect.
Does everything appear on track for 2COR-08 going live on Wednesday?
Hey Jxe, wondering if 6MDR-06 has gone live yet and if there has been any updates on 6MDR-07 Thanks!
Hey Jxe, wondering if 6MDR-06 has gone live yet and if there has been any updates on 6MDR-07 Thanks!
Hey, looks like we had some issues after loading new data onto the site. 6MDR-06 *should* have gone live yesterday, will fix accordingly :)
The latest expected RFS date for 6MDR-07 remains is 02 Mar 2016.
Hi Jex, I'm curious if you know what Buildings in 2-MAI-07 will be getting FTTB?
Noticed this morning that mynbn has been updated to show 2-MAI-07 (Metford) as Multi-Tech-Mix
I can't think of anything around here that would even take FTTB? Would you perhaps be able to shed any light on this?
Your not doing the Map updates list anymore? in the rollout thread?
Your not doing the Map updates list anymore? in the rollout thread?
hehe, give the poor fella a chance :)
what with Uni, work and trying to decipher the nbn� data.
I am guessing he needs a Turring machine to decode the enigma that nbn� has become
I am guessing he needs a Turring machine to decode the enigma that nbn� has become
A few acid trips might be more beneficial to try and work out what the hell nbnTM is disseminating :-p
There used to be a way on this site to see where the nodes are placed. Does anyone know if that feature is still around?
There used to be a way on this site to see where the nodes are placed. Does anyone know if that feature is still around?
that section also included the speed guides, but it is no longer accurate and so it has I believed been "pulled"
it also was not done for all areas
Hey jxeeno,
Just wondering how much data you have for 4ATH-01 and 4ATH-01 ? We are still in the prep stage but more so where pillars etc are so we can guess where nodes might go?
Cheers,
Leon
Am I correct in assuming that there is no way in which I can get more information than just H12016 construction start?
Pretty much. If nbn decide to realise their way overdue updated 3 year plan, you would of been given a more specific window.
Estimated NBN install dates.
Labour 2016.
Liberals 2018.
Today, I have some very exciting news to share. First, that myNBN.info is now part of the finder.com.au family. And with that, I also step into the role of Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au.
When I created myNBN almost three years ago now, my objective was to help Australians track the National Broadband Network rollout in their area by making a website that was accessible and easy to understand. Amazingly, over 800,000 Australians have done exactly that using the website.
That's why I'm very excited about this next phase for myNBN. As many of you may know, last year was a very busy year for me. Not only did I have a full load at university, I also had various websites to manage, freelance jobs to complete, and a part-time job at finder.com.au. Oh, and I possibly also have a personal life :)
By moving the site to finder.com.au, I hope to streamline my own workload, and also allow the site improve, expand and grow by leveraging the skills and expertise of the team at finder.com.au.
I will still continue to be intimately involved with the site as the Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au. We�ve already planned user experience improvements, while also maintaining the detailed information that myNBN is known for.
There are also plenty more exciting projects ahead in the roadmap to look forward to!
I would like to say a huge thank you to everyone who has supported me on this adventure thus far, especially those who have donated in the website's early days. It�s been a real pleasure working with everyone!
Kenneth Tsang (jxeeno)
Creator of myNBN, Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au
Well done Kenneth, we continue to admire your development and contributions to not only the ICT industry but the community as a whole.
Cheers
Wow! Big news jxeeno!
From a "consumer", as long as myNBN stays at least as awesome as it is now and you continue to make changes/improvements in the ever-changing world of "NBN", it will still remain the "go to site" for the NBN rollout � ahead of NBN's own website.
You need to look after number 1 (i.e. you) and it sounds like this deal goes a long way towards doing that.
Keep up the awesome work. :)
Thumbs up to Kenneth! :star:
Fantastic new jxeeno!! Wondered what had happened to the website this afternoon lol!
Well done Kenneth! Your service to the community is incredible.
Regarding the actual site, I note the move to Finder.com.au's UI has introduced some (perhaps intentional) usability issues?
The old (well not old, but 2.0) version of myNBN had a really nice universal search in the top right hand corner which let you search through SAs, SAMs and all sorts � very useful because I frequently had to search for greenfields developments for which I'd forgotten the AYCA- number.
It was also excellent to see the network hierarchy tab (very useful for nbn engineering works re greenfields) and the take-up rates � is there a chance these could be making a return? I understand that the general public probably isn't too interested in these...
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
It makes using your site virtually impossible.
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
Hi Midnight Rider,
The disclaimer shouldn't be overlayed. Which page are you experiencing the issue?
Cheers,
jx
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
not an issue for me with firefox � try different browser?
Hi Diggy The Wombat,
Thanks for the feedback.
The old (well not old, but 2.0) version of myNBN had a really nice universal search in the top right hand corner which let you search through SAs, SAMs and all sorts
Ah yes, good pick-up! I'll see what I can do about this. Thanks!
It was also excellent to see the network hierarchy tab
Yes, I'm not too sure where we are with that one. I got quite a bit of feedback about the hierarchy tab being fairly confusing... but let's see what we can do :)
the take-up rates
Take-up rate graphs haven't been updated since early 2014. They were a bit complex to maintain, and so, were phased out. You can still see current take-up using the ADA tab or the summary (by service class).
Cheers,
jx
I'm using IE 11 at work and the homepage looks like this:
http://i.imgur.com/CCR8oZC.png
I also can't scroll.
I'm using IE 11 at work and the homepage looks like this:
Ahh, sorry about that! Looking into it now :) Thanks for flagging!
How the hell do I get rid of the finder.com.au overlay disclaimer???
It makes using your site virtually impossible.
Same problem here.
I'm using IE 11 at work and the homepage looks like this:
I opened IE just to have a look and got the same thing. Edge is okay though.
New site works fine for me in Both Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome (Haven't tried firefox through)
IE 8 has display issues but seeing as that's now discontinued, I don't know if it will be worth the fix or not and what are the chances that someone on IE8 will be on the site anyway?
Anyway quick test
Microsoft Edge � http://i.imgur.com/PuVmpoW.jpg
Internet EXP 8 � http://i.imgur.com/qU603Ya.jpg
Chrome � http://i.imgur.com/qrhGeO2.jpg ( I included the version of Chrome I'm using in the address bar)
I'm surprised about IE11 through but I guess sites aren't really designed for with Internet Explorer 11 in mind anymore. Edge is built differently to IE11 so that explains why it's working fine for me on Edge.
Wonder how the site is on FF.
Edit Added chrome test.
Firefox works fine (I don't have a screenshot, but it looks the same/similar to Chrome/Edge). I have seen the disclaimer issue in IE 11. It seems to be a page rendering thing. Edge can "spoof" itself as either Chrome or Safari, so it will render pages like they will, whereas IE 11 won't.
Nice site change too :) Looks a little cleaner.
OK, so looks like myNBN is no longer providing info about which RSPs are offering services at each POI, but instead are only pushing the paid-for providers.
Does anyone know where I can now go to get a listing of the RSPs who are offering services at each POI???
I would have done a screen capture if I'd known these changes were coming.
looks like myNBN is no longer providing info about which RSPs are offering services at each POI
I see a long list of providers when I go into the details screen. Is this not what you're looking for?
Hi Ken,
Was the SKY MUSTER� coverage map a late feature of the pre-finder version?
Take-up rate graphs haven't been updated since early 2014. They were a bit complex to maintain, and so, were phased out.
You can say that again. The switch to showing MPSes as additional ADAs really screwed that up I guess.
I really like the "Days In Build" display on the 'Recent Activations' page. Could be good to see on the overall list, although looking at the "Days In Build" stats for the FTTP regions would make anyone want to slit their wrists!
Speaking of FTTP, I guess that depressing 'History' tab from myNBN 1.0 which showed, month-by-month, how delayed the sodding things were has gone the way of the dodo? I guess it's not so relevant any more seeing as FTTN builds "seem" to "make" their RFS "targets".
Why the redirection ?
Regarding the color coded 3 year roll out map, why is the MTM details/suburbs hee different from that from NBN's MTM PDF ?
for example, NBN MTM pdf states for my area "Nollamara" among others, construction will start end of 2018, but of your website, its not even color coded., which indicates to me you do not have up to date details, regardless of if it may change or not.
Is this still suppose to help users regardless? Although the MTM can change... and while your site, which would be be more accurate way than a small footnote that NBN says that u can't see without a magnifier glass, its still shows different areas for this.
Of course if u read NBN's MTM u would know this already, looks like this site (your) site is more visual indication than any assuming it's always accurate even for MTM.
Hey all,
The IE11 issue has been identified and fixed.
Thanks!
Nice site change too :) Looks a little cleaner.
Glad you like it. There are more tweaks to come in the near future � stay tuned!
Does anyone know where I can now go to get a listing of the RSPs who are offering services at each POI???
Hi Midnight Rider,
The list of providers has not changed. You can still find them where they were previously.
e.g. http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
I guess it's not so relevant any more seeing as FTTN builds "seem" to "make" their RFS "targets".
That data can actually still be surfaced, but I had never implemented it on the myNBN 2.0 site � thus it's not showing now. Again, I'll see what I can do :)
The list of providers have not changed. You can still find them where they were previously.
Hey, thanks for that. This list didn't come up for me before when I looked, but I can see it now.
Before, I got a very small list with only 4 providers, but I can't find this smaller list any more.
I guess things are still in transition.
However I'm still getting the annoying overlay as per interfreak's image... http://i.imgur.com/CCR8oZC.png
(even though you say it's fixed � yes, I'm using IE11)
EDITED: After checking it out a bit more, it seem the overlay only happens when I click the NBN link on the finder.com.au page. The actual myNBN pages are rid of it.
Amazingly, over 800,000 Australians have done exactly that using the website.
Amazing! It was (an is) an excellent resource.
Are you going to re introduce the satellite image option? It was great for pinpointing a place whose address is "not recognised" by nbn.
However I'm still getting the annoying overlay as per interfreak's image...
your browser may be showing a locally cached version as it sees the page as the same as stored locally
Are you going to re introduce the satellite image option? It was great for pinpointing a place whose address is "not recognised" by nbn.
The satellite information has actually been improved because NBN begun working out which addresses are getting satellite.
You can see, for example 164 Tidbinbilla Rd, Paddys River ACT 2620, Australia will state that it's in the satellite footprint. About half of the 400k premises can currently be searched, with more to come before the expected commercial launch of Sky Muster in April.
jxeeno, I noticed on the recent activations page that it seems to be a few days out of date? on mynbn.info it was showing activations for 29/2 now it only shows up to 25/2.
The satellite information has actually been improved because NBN begun working out which addresses are getting satellite.
Yes, it has, but I was talking about the Google Maps satellite image feature, where you could pinpoint a house exactly, and know whether it was inside, near or well outside the footprint. This is especially useful in fixed wireless areas.
The satellite information has actually been improved because NBN begun working out which addresses are getting satellite.
Does that mean that we will never see a graphical representation of SKY MUSTER� coverage and that satellite premises will only be identified by a specific address search?
jxeeno, I noticed on the recent activations page that it seems to be a few days out of date? on mynbn.info it was showing activations for 29/2 now it only shows up to 25/2.
Cheers, fixed!
Does that mean that we will never see a graphical representation of SKY MUSTER� coverage and that satellite premises will only be identified by a specific address search?
Not unless nbn releases it ;)
Yes, it has, but I was talking about the Google Maps satellite image feature
Ahh, I see what you mean. I'll check to see what we can do about it!
Does that mean that we will never see a graphical representation of SKY MUSTER� coverage
My understanding is that Sky Muster coverage includes all of Australia, plus surrounding territories.
When the 2nd satellite is launched, the coverage will be the same, except obviously the total available bandwidth will be increased. (doubled?)
My understanding
I guess that one of these days ... sometime in the future ... we'll be able to zoom into the large brown land ...
http://s9.postimg.org/ff3iubsi7/screenshot_1165.jpg
... and see exactly mapped; who has a fixed nbn connection and resolve that the everyone who hasn't ... must be SKY MUSTER�. ;)
But right now .. it doesn't.
PS I've gone back to nbn maps to get rid of the unfortunate finder banners. :angry:
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
Why is everything listed as inactive
This area has been active since November last year? (i swear they all showed active just the other week?, and I am on it, so I know it's active)
May I ask is H1-2017 mean first half of 2017?
May I ask is H1-2017 mean first half of 2017?
that is generally accepted meaning of the term
but like lots of things with MTM the meaning could be fluid
This area has been active since November last year? (i swear they all showed active just the other week?, and I am on it, so I know it's active)
Hey Cap'n Silver,
That page shows up as being active for me. It also says Ready for Service: "05 Nov 2015".
Perhaps you were looking at the wrong page before?
Cheers,
jx
I think he means the ADA info � all of them are marked 'inactive' but you can see that a few of them are serviceable and have had people connected.
Hi Jxeeno,
Does mynbn have a page whereby you can select an RSP and see what POI's they access. Almost the reverse of this page http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
I think he means the ADA info � all of them are marked 'inactive' but you can see that a few of them are serviceable and have had people connected.
Ooh I see, that's weird. Will check it out. I have a feeling that's been an issue for some time.
Cheers Cap'n Silver (and interfreak) :)
On the recent activations list, I noticed some of the FTTN SAMs are showing up as Brownfields FTTP with 0 premises, e.g.
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
that's been an issue for some time.
Yes, 9 months at least. Will it get fixed now that it's part of finder?
Yes, 9 months at least. Will it get fixed now that it's part of finder?
The active status flag, yes � working on a fix now :)
However, I haven't been able to track ADA-by-ADA activations since mid-2014 due to a change in the way NBN activates its areas... so it won't be possible to fill in blanks for the "active date".
I noticed some of the FTTN SAMs are showing up as Brownfields FTTP with 0 premises
Cheers, that's also on the to-do list. Some data got corrupted during import last month :(
Anyone know how long it takes to go from Service switched on in mynbn to being able to apply for a service. NBNco says its still under construction, but myNBN says its switched on? Rang Telstra and they said still no available...
MATT
but myNBN says its switched on? Rang Telstra and they said still no available...
Hey MATT,
Did you get an email notification from myNBN to say that your address is live? If so, you can try checking on Telstra's website as they check with NBN live as well.
NBN's online maps only update once every week or so.
Cheers,
jx
Ok, May be Im getting a bit excited... Have been on slow ADSL for so long and fixed Wireless is about to be available.
My area Biloela, has been under-construction and Local Telstra store posted online to come in for a deal. However the area I am in was not turned on. But I see that it was today.
I haven't received an email as yet.
MATT
Are you going to re introduce the satellite image option?
The satellite option should be back for the desktop version. Thanks for everyone's patience :)
Ok, May be Im getting a bit excited... Have been on slow ADSL for so long and fixed Wireless is about to be available.
My area Biloela, has been under-construction and Local Telstra store posted online to come in for a deal. However the area I am in was not turned on. But I see that it was today.
Hey MATT,
Do you live in Biloela or on a property outside of town? I'm also in Biloela, and have been watching it like a hawk to see when fixed wireless goes live. I live on the outskirts of town, but NBN maps class my address as "in town" and part of the 3 year fibre rollout, hence making me not eligible for fixed wireless.
On the myNBN rollout map I'm inside the town boundaries, not in the fixed wireless coverage zone. Skymesh told me today they can't do anything for me :(
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
The satellite option should be back for the desktop version.
Excellent ...thanks :-)
Jxeeno there seems to be a "bug" on the map pages
When you have the pop-up box for an address and close it via clicking on the "x" in the top right corner of the box, the underlying browser window treat that as a new location to drop a pin and show data
this would be generating more querries through the database than other wise would be needed, even for those of us curious about a region
also why in the 2WOY FTTN area every premises I select is still showing as
Not (yet) serviceable
"Service Class 10" location is planned to be serviceable by copper
yet the area is all now RFS
shouldn't they be showing
"service class 12" the location is serviceable by copper, jumpering is required
Do you live in Biloela or on a property outside of town? I'm also in Biloela, and have been watching it like a hawk to see when fixed wireless goes live. I live on the outskirts of town, but NBN maps class my address as "in town" and part of the 3 year fibre rollout, hence making me not eligible for fixed wireless.
On the myNBN rollout map I'm inside the town boundaries, not in the fixed wireless coverage zone. Skymesh told me today they can't do anything for me :(
I'm just on the outskirts, so fall in the Wifi Zone. But i can see I will have great trouble as on NBNCo Website doesnt allow a look up of my address. Nor does Mynbn but following the map I get an address. Registered with Mynbn and got an update.
But any of the do you qualify websites , show me still as ADSL only.... Will make some calls next week.
MATT
I'm just on the outskirts,
Hi MATT,
If you can clearly see the tower and you are not marked out for some other means of NBN service delivery then you should have a good chance of getting onto fixed wireless.
For Biloela, the relevant Retail Service Providers (RSPs) are listed in the right hand scoll box at http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
The broad experience of those posting to {edit this the fixed wireless} thread clearly indicates that the best way to get action is to initially select a fixed wireless plan from your chosen RSP. A good RSP will be able to tell you if you are on the fixed wireless zone map. Even if not on the map but they think you have a good chance of being connected then they should be able to get you assigned with a property allocation no. from NBN to get you connected.
I suggest you contact your chosen RSP and explain your situation clearly and indicate to them that you want to connect to NBN on a particular plan that they offer.
Possibly someone can recommend a particular RSP for your area?
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Note: Very large companies like Telstra, Optus & Vodafone tend to be monolithic and can be somewhat inflexible in their approach to customers. Smaller companies like Aussie Broadband or Skymesh highly recomended on this thread, are very customer friendly, and can help you get onto the map & connected. Unfortunately neither of those companies is on your available RSP list.
EDIT: The tower seems not to be live yet & you may be jumping the gun a bit early because RSPs won't necessarily have all the relevant information � it might be better to wait till the tower is officially live. Presumably (if all goes to the NBN schedule � it may not) then that will be later this month.
EDIT: The tower seems not to be live yet & you may be jumping the gun a bit early because RSPs won't necessarily have all the relevant information � it might be better to wait till the tower is officially live. Presumably (if all goes to the NBN schedule � it may not) then that will be later this month.
I was thinking the same thing..
Note: Very large companies like Telstra, Optus & Vodafone tend to be monolithic and can be somewhat inflexible in their approach to customers. Smaller companies like Aussie Broadband or Skymesh highly recomended on this thread, are very customer friendly, and can help you get onto the map & connected. Unfortunately neither of those companies is on your available RSP list.
I had to contact Telstra cause my home phone is a crackling mess. After I lodged a repair request, I asked to be put through to a NBN person at Telstra. Explained to the guy all the info about only just going live ect. He said he would look into it. He got back to me 5 minutes later with "is available has just gone live". Then the Drama started about the address. This is all expected, as the council changed lot numbers to street address and that has cocked everything... Short version, they submitted an application to whomever (NBNco) and they will be in contact sometime in the next week.. Fingers crossed.
I had to contact Telstra
We all have our Telstra stories :-( My story is a saga way too lo.........ng to write up and post anywhere.
We are a bit off topic � for fixed wireless issues it's probably best to post on the fixed wireless thread /forum-replies.cfm?t=2478248. I hope the moderators don't think I'm cross posting (just trying to keep topics largely uncontaminated).
Is it just me, or are all the filter and sort options for the rollout regions now busted?
(The URL changes, but the view stays the same.)
Today, I have some very exciting news to share. First, that myNBN.info is now part of the finder.com.au family. And with that, I also step into the role of Publisher for Broadband and Internet TV at finder.com.au.
Congrats Kenneth, i'd skipped a few pages and had missed this announcement. :P
Is it just me, or are all the filter and sort options for the rollout regions now busted?
Same here on both Chrome and Firefox.
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
poi tracker seems to only show nsw regardless of which state is selected (using chrome)
Is it just me, or are all the filter and sort options for the rollout regions now busted?
Ah yes, sorry about that. I'm fixing it as we speak. Looks like a change we pushed out last weekend broke it.
For now, you can still filter if you remove the "/undefined" part of the URL � e.g. http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/poi/list/state/SA (rather than /nbn-tracker/poi/list/undefined/state/SA).
I'm fixing it as we speak.
Cheers.
Also, are you still posting the NBN Rollout Update Summary (monthly) somewhere? I haven't seen it in a couple of months. (I miss it! :-P )
Thanks for all the hard work!
I've just looked up an address of interest on myNBN.info in the recently started brownfields area of 5GPC Gepps Cross SA (whrl.pl/Rezw2K)
Although the address received a letter, the address is not shown on the map as in progress yet. Is there a bit of lag between myNBN updates at present?
Is there a bit of lag between myNBN updates at present?
It is possible that the address of interest is not in the current plans but may of received a notice about construction but is very close to the area getting built and is an error.
I've just looked up an address of interest on myNBN.info in the recently started brownfields area of 5GPC Gepps Cross SA (whrl.pl/Rezw2K)
Although the address received a letter, the address is not shown on the map as in progress yet. Is there a bit of lag between myNBN updates at present?
Hi Dunn, this is a product of the way NBN provides updates to the public. At the middle of each month (around the 10th working day), NBN will publicly announce a new batch of areas they commenced work in the previous month.
The upcoming area announcement, expected some time next week, will add areas where build or build preparation had commenced in the month of February.
Because of this, it's possible that the 5GPC area will not be publicly announced by NBN until mid-April.
I hope that makes sense!
Cheers,
jx
Also, are you still posting the NBN Rollout Update Summary (monthly) somewhere? I haven't seen it in a couple of months. (I miss it! :-P )
It's been quite hard to do them in recent months because of the way NBN formats their data. I will *try* my best to do it this coming month � but I can't guarantee it... sorry :(
Hi jxeeno,
I don't like what has been done with mynbn.info once moved to finder.com.au
The Available Plans tab on the Rollout ID page http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
Is it listing only paid advertisers? If so, you should mention that.
I don't like what has been done with mynbn.info once moved to finder.com.au
Ever since it got "moved?" To finder.com.au it hasn't been updated properly, at the moment whole of 6CAN rfs is out dated. Still showing old rfs dates even though Telstra wholesale has released an updated expected rfs spreadsheet.
I don't like what has been done with mynbn.info once moved to finder.com.au
The Available Plans tab on the Rollout ID page http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
Hey TheGruff,
Thanks for the feedback. It's always been our intention to get all provider plans onto the plan tables and I'm working hard to get plans from all 200 or so providers listed as soon as possible (it takes a long time, unfortunately).
Even now, we list a fair few providers we don't deal with directly... but those who deal with us will likely get listed first as most are happy to provide us accessible pricing and details of their plans.
However, do I see where you're coming from and I'll also see what we can do to address this in the interim.
Cheers,
jx
Ever since it got "moved?" To finder.com.au it hasn't been updated properly, at the moment whole of 6CAN rfs is out dated. Still showing old rfs dates even though Telstra wholesale has released an updated expected rfs spreadsheet.
Hi cuzcraig,
I still update the site as it has always been done on an ongoing basis. Nothing has changed in that regard :)
For a bit of background, the site has never relied on the Telstra Wholesale document for dates as I've found them to be inaccurate on occasions.
Cheers,
jx
I still update the site as it has always been done on an ongoing basis. Nothing has changed in that regard :)
Hi jxeeno,
What do you make of:
whrl.pl/ReAxRa
And my posts in reponse in that thread and also:
whrl.pl/ReAz06
I notice the 5 areas 6APP-60 to 6APP-64 correspond to the 5 6APP-XX you have in mynbn for the HFC builds, and the others listed there (at least for WA) also seem to match.
For a bit of background, the site has never relied on the Telstra Wholesale document for dates as I've found them to be inaccurate on occasions.
Inaccurate but more timely since the above was all sourced from:
http://telstrawholesale
Don't forget that Telstra are pretty much calling the shots now for the NBN MTM (esp HFC and most of FTTN) so their information is probably what NBN themselves use when they update their maps!
@jxeeno
I suppose we won't be seeing the "updated" 3 year rollout plan any soon or not ?
What do you make of:
whrl.pl/ReAxRa
And my posts in reponse in that thread and also:
whrl.pl/ReAz06
I've been asking around :) I'll reply when I find out more on, on the progress thread.
Don't forget that Telstra are pretty much calling the shots now for the NBN MTM (esp HFC and most of FTTN) so their information is probably what NBN themselves use when they update their maps!
Perhaps, but nbn still schedules the rollout :) What I said still remains � I've never really been comfortable with the Telstra data, and probably won't use it unless it's a last resort.
I suppose we won't be seeing the "updated" 3 year rollout plan any soon or not ?
Well, look... I hope so. Considering their it's been half a year since their last quarterly update, I think it's probably time for an update or they risk some pretty unhappy campers.
Hi cuzcraig,
I still update the site as it has always been done on an ongoing basis. Nothing has changed in that regard :)
For a bit of background, the site has never relied on the Telstra Wholesale document for dates as I've found them to be inaccurate on occasions.
Cheers,
jx
Thanks for the update jxeeno
Hey jxeeno,
Have you seen the leaked NBNCo doc https://www.dropbox.com/s/4p95bxq90255gxs/IDP.xlsx?dl=0 (source � http://www.afr.com/technology
Hey jxeeno,
Can i get you to have a look at 4Ath ? We are currently in build but on the Map/Actual is listing as Preparation.
Cheers,
Leon
myNBN spotted on 7.30 a couple nights ago. From ABC website here 0:20-0:30.
Can i get you to have a look at 4Ath ? We are currently in build but on the Map/Actual is listing as Preparation.
Thanks for flagging that, Tunnah.
I just did a bulk update, and 4ATH-01 and 4ATH-02 are now listed correctly as "build commenced".
Cheers,
jx
myNBN spotted on 7.30 a couple nights ago. From ABC website here 0:20-0:30.
We certainly don't mind the promotion ;) Thanks ABC and Warren Truss!
My area is "unknown" at the moment, are there updates happening? It has turned green from the usual 3 year cycle but all details have disappeared..
My area is "unknown" at the moment, are there updates happening? It has turned green from the usual 3 year cycle but all details have disappeared..
Hmm, I don't believe I've made any changes recently that would affect this. Could you whim me your address/area? I'll look into it.
It's really odd, still failing when I look at my address or any near myself.
But then if I look at my SA it shows it's now in preparation and I'm getting fttn so there's been an update thankfully :)
I am in 6ARM-03 service area...obviously I am in 3 year plan. But on the map it says not information available....
"No rollout plan yet The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced"
it must have changed recently as it was showing my address as in 3 yr plan a week before...any bugs???or updating??
it must have changed recently as it was showing my address as in 3 yr plan a week before...any bugs???or updating??
Ahh, indeed. I don't remember anything to do with the three year plan being changed recently, but I'll take a look to see what the issue is. Thanks for flagging.
6CAN-4:
Oh no, there appears to be an error. This was the error message:
myNBN does not know how to handle this request
It is for a while like this. The RFS is tomorrow, 15.04.2016.
And jxeeno, thanks for your hard work on myNBN site!
6CAN-4:
Oh no, there appears to be an error. This was the error message:
myNBN does not know how to handle this request
Works for me Michal?
It does not for me after I punch my address. Tried from home and work.
Maybe specific to my address...
Hi
I have a question regarding my address not showing up on either the mynbn map or NBNco map. I am scheduled to get the NBN in the coming months with construction meant to start from now and August of this year. Despite this my address still won't show up with any info about the rollout process. I am slated to get HFC and not FTTN or FTTP so I don't know if that is a factor or not.
Same problem here
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
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Both are now finally in build prep which started last month ago :)
Be interesting to see how many nodes will be deployed around the town
Typed in my street name and now get that message below, didn't last week ?
"No rollout plan yet The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced"
Rollout type
Unknown
Tried all other streets within that town i live in and all came up with the same message.
Augusta,Cowaramup,Gracetown all do the same as well ?
Those 3 towns are also in build prep as well.
However when i checked out Busselton which is now build mode it comes up with the details on SAM, SA and Premises when you enter a random address in the brown colured area
It seems when a town in the 3 year plan finally has the build prep started then all of sudden you get that no rollout plan yet message ?
Hi Ken,
Are GPS coords meant to work in finder? http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map
And nbn maps? http://www.nbnco.com.au/devel
example
-22.788608, 142.952042 or
22�47'19.0"S 142�57'07.3"E
which works fine in Google maps etc, but not in either of the above?
Some FTTN areas of Central Coast that are RFS (e.g. 2WOY SAMs, 2TGL-02) under Fixed Line Rollouts>Current Brownfields tab are now described as "Brownfields FTTP" and also have the little fibre logo. Why is this?
Some FTTN areas of Central Coast that are RFS (e.g. 2WOY SAMs, 2TGL-02) under Fixed Line Rollouts>Current Brownfields tab are now described as "Brownfields FTTP" and also have the little fibre logo. Why is this?
maybe nbn� have renamed the node to "premises" so they can say they are now rolling out a FTTP network
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maybe nbn� have renamed the node to "premises" so they can say they are now rolling out a FTTP network
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Carfull don't give them ideas to screw us over with.
Some FTTN areas of Central Coast that are RFS (e.g. 2WOY SAMs, 2TGL-02) under Fixed Line Rollouts>Current Brownfields tab are now described as "Brownfields FTTP" and also have the little fibre logo. Why is this?
Ahh, this is an error of my doing. Thanks for flagging, correcting it as I speak :)
Ahh, indeed. I don't remember anything to do with the three year plan being changed recently, but I'll take a look to see what the issue is. Thanks for flagging.
Still having the same issue at 6ARM-3 jxeeno
Still having the same issue at 6ARM-3 jxeeno
Hey veerpartap,
6ARM-03 is listed as Technology Type: Fibre to the Node for me. Is that what you were talking about, or something else?
Cheers
jxeeno � I know that you don't have the time, but it would be great if you could give the Department of Communications some pointers on how to present in map and statistical form the Mass Service Disruption (MSD) declarations issued by Telstra and other carriers.
The Deparment claims that they "monitor" them but would I'd like to see is analysis of what percentages of customers are affected by MSD's and for how long, and start to get an idea if the extent of the declarations have been unfair, which the TIO claims to be incapable of investigating.
Still having the same issue at 6ARM-3 jxeeno
Same, Q2 2016 is the actually build date and it said it up until 2-3 weeks ago on mynbn.info. I can see work going on around this area and mynbn.info worked fine for the last few years. This area now only gives
No rollout plan yet
The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced
Rollout type
Unknown
Ahh, this is an error of my doing. Thanks for flagging, correcting it as I speak :)
Thank you, saves me wondering if it was more "increased transparency" from nbn.
Just further on this, my area is listed elsewhere on the site under "build preparation" so I'm not sure what's going on
Wondering if someone is able to explain something to me.
I live in an apartment building in Zetland. When I search for my address it comes up with a little pop up advising "We found a few close matches...Did you mean?" and it lists the apartments on the ground and first floor but none of the rest of the other 10 floors in the building.
I was thinking that the database just hasn't been updated because our building was newish and as there is a lot of construction going on around us it would get updated later. But 3 other buildings beside us have since gone up and have now gone active in Feb but we still have nothing and still can't find my address correctly. Our building was completed in Aug 2014 which is when we moved in.
Would this be to do with the Body Corp not approving for the NBN to be installed in our building or would it be something else? The other 3 buildings that are newer plus ours where all built by Meriton, but I believe that only our building is managed solely by Meriton where as the other buildings aren't.
Any insight would be appreciated.
Thanks
Wondering if someone is able to explain something to me.
I live in an apartment building in Zetland. When I search for my address it comes up with a little pop up advising "We found a few close matches...Did you mean?" and it lists the apartments on the ground and first floor but none of the rest of the other 10 floors in the building.
I think it is just a coding/display issue.
The "pop up" box would be limited in size to say 10 actual answers, all the rest would not show, even though they are there.
If you enter your exact address does it accept it?
you could maybe click on one of the ones it shows, then edit it after the page loads
If you enter your exact address does it accept it?
It show's up when I enter my exact address or just the street number.
It show's up when I enter my exact address or just the street number.
no scroll bar so you can scroll down a list in the "pop up"
only option might to be to see if you can order a servcie if the building is listed as active, which some are.
no idea otherwise sorry
No there is no scroll bar :(
I suspect our building is not currently active or even to be done soon. Our entrance is on a different street to one of the other buildings that is active and is attached to us (we both enter the carpark through the same entrance) but that doesn't necessarily mean anything I guess.
It's not that I have horrible internet access as I do have VDSL/FTTB on a 50/20 plan but am only able to get it through 1 RSP, but their plans aren't the best and customer service is absolute crap.
I'll just have to wait and see what happens I guess.
Same, Q2 2016 is the actually build date and it said it up until 2-3 weeks ago on mynbn.info. I can see work going on around this area and mynbn.info worked fine for the last few years. This area now only gives
yupp ditto
Yup ditto, nbnco websites not recommended, STRONGLY recommend finder website a better choice for internet usage.
Hey all,
Regarding the three year plan issue � I'm working on it. For those interested in the more technical detail:
The key problem is that nbn is no displaying new areas going into Build Preparation on its rollout map. So, the 3 year plan message is no longer showing up for areas that have gone into "build preparation" but not into "build commenced" stage.
As to why I don't simply show the Build Preparation message: we can't be sure which rollout region (or SAM) a particular address is part of until nbn adds the area to the map. Even though your suburb is listed in a particular build prep SAM's footprint, it doesn't mean that the entire suburb is covered.
Hope that makes sense.
Cheers,
jx
Are GPS coords meant to work in finder? http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map
Unfortunately, Google Maps's API handles the address autocomplete which means it's hard (but not impossible) to add extra logic to deal with manually entered coordinates. I'll see what we can do about it though :)
ground and first floor but none of the rest of the other 10 floors in the building.
Yes, so it's a limitation on how many addresses can be returned. Have you tried entering your unit number as part of the address? Something like:
[Unit]/[Road Number] [Road Name] [Road Name Type], Suburb
345/1 John St, Zetland
I'll see what we can do about it though :)
Thanks Ken,
It would certainly help some of those who have difficulty accurately identifying where they live for nbn service. :)
Typically how long after the expected RFS date (which is today where I am) is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?
is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?
Nbn's map only updates activations once a week. MyNBNs map should update within a few hours and RSP's should be instant or a few hours as well.
Jxeeno, you might want to hold off declaring MTE-03 as service class 1 for the moment. Vans outside my house. Workers have opened up my pit and are stringing black fibre[?] from it. All this despite having had the outside box checked on Saturday.
Nbn's map only updates activations once a week. MyNBNs map should update within a few hours and RSP's should be instant or a few hours as well.
Interesting. Telstra, TPG and Optus are saying it's not ready and MyNBN/Finder still says build but it was meant to be RFS today.
Not even half way through the day, yet. Keep an eye on MyNBNs map or if you have subscribed you should get an email. Possible it will go RFS later or tomorrow if there's no delays.
Not even half way through the day, yet. Keep an eye on MyNBNs map or if you have subscribed you should get an email. Possible it will go RFS later or tomorrow if there's no delays.
Just super keen is all :) Had delay after delay, was meant to be November last year, then Feb this year and I have fears it'll happen again. Anxious to get off my rubbish ADSL.
Typically how long after the expected RFS date (which is today where I am) is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?
You should not rely on any ISP website to be "up to the minute" with NBNco due to a number of factors.
ISPs should be willing to take your address and identifier, even if their own systems say its not yet RFS, because the only thing preventing them proceeding is if the NBN portal/B2B allows ordering on your "location id". RFS means it is ready in the NBN Systems � and providers should take into account information asymmetry in their sales processes.
It is certainly the way we approach it � call us and if your area is not in our systems and you have info to suggest it should be active, we add it and let you proceed.
Jason
Jxeeno, you might want to hold off declaring MTE-03 as service class 1 for the moment. Vans outside my house. Workers have opened up my pit and are stringing black fibre[?] from it. All this despite having had the outside box checked on Saturday.
Unfortunately, we don't get a say! When NBN switches on an area and declares it ready for service, that's the official word.
Even after an area goes "Ready for Service", works may continue to happen. There are set thresholds that NBN meets in terms of % of premises connected with a PCD (box at the side of the house)... once they've met it � they will declare RFS.
Having said that, service class 1 simply means a there's a multiport in the pit near your house. From what you're saying, I that that accurately reflects the status of your address :)
Typically how long after the expected RFS date (which is today where I am) is it reflected on the NBN, MyNBN and RSP websites?
As others have said, NBN is updated on a weekly basis. We're updated on a 3-hourly basis. RSP websites vary depending on what technology they use (sometimes they plug straight into NBN, other times they are delayed by a few weeks).
I'm noticing a few issues with areas now being displayed as being "live" instantly even if I flag it on the site. I believe it's to do with the caching � I'm investigating this and will get back to you on it.
I can say that 9QBN-07 has gone live, but no word yet on 9QBN-05 (at least on my end).
Hey jex, do you have any info on Lakelands, WA 6180? apparently that area is suppose to get fixed wireless.
I can say that 9QBN-07 has gone live, but no word yet on 9QBN-05 (at least on my end).
Of course 07 is live.... I live on the street that divides 05 & 07, but my address comes up as 05...... Hopefully it's RFS soon!
Thanks for the input jxeeno!
Of course 07 is live.... I live on the street that divides 05 & 07, but my address comes up as 05...... Hopefully it's RFS soon!
They started build in -07 way after -05 too, and it's a larger area. Wonder what's gone wrong in -05.
The installation is going on for me in WA in the 6164 Postcode or 6JTS rollout area. Figured I would let you know since none of the rollout maps have indicated any sort of update on the rollout here. This would be part of the HFC rollout as well.
This would be part of the HFC rollout as well.
What works are happening in your area? On the Telstra Wholesale rollout list the following RFS dates are included.
6JTS-60 JANDAKOT WA 01-Mar-2017
6JTS-61 JANDAKOT WA 01-Mar-2017
What works are happening in your area? On the Telstra Wholesale rollout list the following RFS dates are included.
They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house. I have been going by the MyNBN site and my suburb (Yangebup) was one of 3 suburbs getting HFC in the region whilst the rest are getting FTTN. Going by MyNBN again the HFC rollout has been slated for Construction in H1 2016 and then RFS in H2 2016. The FTTN rollout isn't meant to begin until 2017 and last until 2018 in some cases.
They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house
Can I assume you did not previously have Telstra/Foxtel cable? I ask since those of us with cable service may not see any installation during this stage. And I am in 6APP-6X SAM also slated for HFC RFS by 01-Mar-2017 and supposedly first Build commencing in H1 2016. The only activity I have seen / heard about in Winthrop are Telstra contractors inspecting the pits and ducts (for the third time in as many years!).
They will be in for a real treat since I am of the view very few houses along my HFC loop have cable lead-ins (my house didn't when I moved in 2009, and I see houses with Foxtel dishes rather than cable around my area).
Can I assume you did not previously have Telstra/Foxtel cable? I ask since those of us with cable service may not see any installation during this stage
Correct I don't have Telstra/Foxtel cable.
Telstra contractors inspecting the pits and ducts
I have a Telstra pit right at the front of my house and not once have I seen anyone come and inspect it. I have seen other Telstra pits inspected in the area of the last 2 weeks though. But never the one at the front of my house.
They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house.
Interesting since your area hasn't gone to "Build Commenced" in the last update, only a couple of HFC areas in 6JDL were included in the April update for WA. Will be interesting to see an updated RFS for 6JDS and 6APP HFC areas.
Interesting since your area hasn't gone to "Build Commenced" in the last update, only a couple of HFC areas in 6JDL were included in the April update for WA. Will be interesting to see an updated RFS for 6JDS and 6APP HFC areas.
I did get the letter from NBN like 6-7 weeks back informing that the build would be coming between April-August. NBNCo has never provided information on this area at all and I have been checking both NBNCo and MyNBN since the start of 2013. It wasn't until recently that I delved deeper into MyNBN and found more detailed information regarding the rollout for 6JTS and that I would be getting HFC sometime this year.
Photos of HFC install?
It may even be fiber as they are stringing it on the poles now.
Yes, so it's a limitation on how many addresses can be returned. Have you tried entering your unit number as part of the address? Something like:
[Unit]/[Road Number] [Road Name] [Road Name Type], Suburb
345/1 John St, Zetland
Hi jxeeno
Yes that's what I get after I have put in my full address. I've also noticed that the building it thinks we are in, according to the map, doesn't actually exist ... there is no building there it's actually a little park in between all the buildings and our building is not numbered, but I think that's got something to do with the map itself.
As I mentioned I guess I'll just have to wait until something happens, just thought it was strange that every other building around us (front, back and sides and also buildings that are connected to us as part of the same construction) have all gone active but we haven't even gone into build prep according to the maps.
Hi Jxeeno, what does the following mean for an ADA?
3CRB-01-21 Active mixed c. 22 Jul 2016 210 2 (None) 1 (None) (this says 2 connections are already active) and its mixed
Does this mean someone has opted for FOD?
I noticed it on another ADA also
Having said that, service class 1 simply means a there's a multiport in the pit near your house. From what you're saying, I that that accurately reflects the status of your address :)
Yes. I've phoned nBN cO. I am class 1 now for sure. So now I will proceed to get the inside box.
Hey jex, do you have any info on Lakelands, WA 6180? apparently that area is suppose to get fixed wireless.
Sorry, I don't have any extra information :( You're right in saying that it's scheduled for Fixed Wireless though. Other than that, it's a case of wait and see unfortunately.
Figured I would let you know since none of the rollout maps have indicated any sort of update on the rollout here. This would be part of the HFC rollout as well.
Yeah, I'm noticing some discrepancies too with the data that nbn� is providing (on their map) and what's happening on the ground. As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.
So I, and all of Australia, are at the mercy of nbn� providing accurate information :/
So I, and all of Australia, are at the mercy of nbn� providing accurate information :/
how hard can it be?
They seem to have become "bunkered down"
But in their efforts to hide information and even disputing what people have seen happening on the ground makes nbn� seem like they have something nasty lurking that might pop out at any time and they or their political masters do not want this information made public.
Great for a GBE
What will be next, sorry we can't tell you if your area is RFS as that is commercial and in confidence between us and our RSP customers
I try to find the reason for removal of those 22 FSA last year for almost 1 year because I am in one of them, now finally got it....
http://www.aph.gov.au/~/medi
I try to find the reason for removal of those 22 FSA last year for almost 1 year because I am in one of them, now finally got it....
so it would seem that where nbn� now use the term FTTx (like they use in the linked document) it means anything other than FTTP, but we don't know what it is, but whatever it is it IS cheaper than FTTP because we said so
they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.
Yeah but when you happen to see actual "Build Prep" work going on, people aren't fooled as the nbn blokes here in my town did display the NBN sign hanging off the yellow barriers when they were in the telstra pits and manhole one's for the rodding and roping phase.
so it would seem that where nbn� now use the term FTTx
I thought this just meant FTTN but they didn't want to outright say it.
I still don't get anything when I enter my address on the site, but when I use 2BER it shows we've been in "preparation" since Aug 2015. How long can it take!
I thought this just meant FTTN but they didn't want to outright say it.
I think you are right, but it just makes you shake your head and wonder why they are "denying" it.
Then you get the areas that were going to get FTTP but now they are HFC/FTTX, they stopped FTTP to stop "overbuild" but they are quite happy to "overbuild" with FTTx in parts of the area
x = anything but P
Then you get the areas that were going to get FTTP but now they are HFC/FTTX
Even worse. My home suppose get FTTP before they remove it. Now half of my suburb(2 street away) get FTTP, I got nothing, not even in 3 year plan.
Yeah, I'm noticing some discrepancies too with the data that nbn� is providing (on their map) and what's happening on the ground. As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.
I guess this explains why I have never seen any sort of updates for my area even after I got the letter from NBNco back in February. I am interested to see if my region is included in the update rollout list next week though.
I am interested to see if my region is included in the update rollout list next week though.
Next week? I think you're a bit too keen :)
New areas usually get added mid-month (around the 10th business day rounded to the nearest convenient day for nbn). Let's see what happens :)
Yes that's what I get after I have put in my full address. I've also noticed that the building it thinks we are in, according to the map, doesn't actually exist ... there is no building there it's actually a little park in between all the buildings and our building is not numbered, but I think that's got something to do with the map itself.
Ah yes, we're using Google Maps to help geocode and standardise the address. Assuming this is a new-ish building, their maps and addresses may take a short while to update.
Does this mean someone has opted for FOD?
While it does mean that there is more than one technology in this ADA, in this case, it's because a new development in the ADA got an FTTP connection :)
Ah yes, we're using Google Maps to help geocode and standardise the address. Assuming this is a new-ish building, their maps and addresses may take a short while to update.
Yeah it is a newish building ... about 2 years old. The other buildings are even newer next to us that have gone active though so I think it comes down to the body corporate holding off as long as possible.
We do have VDSL so it's not as if we don't have good internet, it's just we can only get it through one provider and they are more expensive than a lot of the others.
Anyway the wait continues.
Looking at MyNBN for Dalwood NSW 2335 it shows rollout areas for Fixed Wireless and the location of the towers.
When you check OzTowers for the tower details they don't have NBN listed there.
ACMA has the following:
NBN Co Site 363 Elderslie Road BRANXTON
This NBN Fixed Wireless tower is located on ACMA Site 9023315
Name NBN Co Site 363 Elderslie Road
Location BRANXTON NSW 2335
Precision Within 10 meters
Latitude (GDA94) -32.620862
Longitude (GDA94) 151.358397
-32.620862, 151.358397
Emission Center Frequency 13.059 GHz Bandwidth 28 MHz
Emission Designator 28M0D7W
Antenna Parabolic-P, UKY 220 27/DC15, ERICSSON
Antenna Height (AGL) 37 m
There is no 2300 frequency range listed
This is what MyNBN says about that tower:
Primary Rollout Status (2SIN-51-03-ELDE)
Status Build Commenced
Expected Ready For Service 01 Dec 2016 (accurate as at 31 Mar 2016)
Build Commenced Mar 2016
So, MyNBN seems to have more up to date information. Where are you getting it from?
So, MyNBN seems to have more up to date information. Where are you getting it from?
ACMA tower information is available here:
http://web.acma.gov.au/
Here is the specific tower:
http://web.acma.gov.au
Cross-reference that to the NBNco coverage information and you can see, without any assignments, that it is the only tower possible to use based on the overlay of the Wireless bounds for 2SIN-51-03-ELDE
This tower is already used by NBN for backhaul to other towers, so it would make sense to enable it for local reach too.
I assume jxeeno has run some queries with assumptions to determine this result for the website.
Edit: That said this site is also close by and has different CPE frequency sets.
http://web.acma.gov.au/
Here is the NBNco 3.5Ghz Assignment, Issued today.
http://web.acma.gov.au
Jason
Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.
Here is the NBNco 3.5Ghz Assignment, Issued today.
http://web.acma.gov.au
Thanks :-)
Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.
Thanks, fixed :)
Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.
Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.
assume finder.com.au you refer to but have been unable to see coloured maps on nbnco site a few times today.
Anyone else unable to see the coloured maps? Tried 2 different browsers.
For some reason i couldnt see coloured maps earlier this afternoon momentarily, however a refresh made it reappear.
It looks like NBN's maps are down as well... so we'll have to wait until they come back live :(
http://www.nbnco.com.au/deve
It looks like NBN's maps are down as well... so we'll have to wait until they come back live :(
more transperancy?
or just a glitch?
Hey jxeeno, any update on Dubbo? Both 2DBB-02 and 2DBB-03 were supposed to go RFS today but looks like it's not going to happen.
any update on Dubbo? Both 2DBB-02 and 2DBB-03 were supposed to go RFS today
02 just went live :) caching issue is causing problems which means site still says it's in build.
I'll clear it once i get home :)
02 just went live :) caching issue is causing problems which means site still says it's in build.
I'll clear it once i get home :)
Legend.
more transperancy
Literally, yes. The map tiles were more transparent than normal because there was no data ;)
I suspect it was a glitch though.
Finder/MyNBN got a plug in the Daily Liberal.
http://www.dailyliberal.com.
When does your area go RFS? That's your answer.
Just looking at the recent activations and noticed some say RFS 30th of April 2016 (tomorrow) these all seem to be fixed wireless. Just a heads up incase it wasn't caught already.
Thanks, fixed :)
Was 6PNJ-51-06-NODT one of these sites?
It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.
Is this finder article ... legit?
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
No date.
No nbn reference.
And why October end?
Was 6PNJ-51-06-NODT one of these sites?
It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.
I'm assuming myNBN has got this wrong as it's still not officially RFS. :-(
Hi guys,
BFF (BeFore Finder) there where several interactive maps of FTTN trial areas, which gave an estimate of speed and distance to the node.
Are these still available?
The old link is broken. http://fttn.mynbn.info/?esa=GRKN
Hi guys,
BFF (BeFore Finder) there where several interactive maps of FTTN trial areas, which gave an estimate of speed and distance to the node.
Are these still available?
they were taken down as the results were not matching what was being seen in the wild.
Also from memory they did not have vectoring included in the calcs
Mr Mac was working on more accurate data/maps.
He lives in the Kellyville roll out region and seems to be concentrating on his own "back yard"
He has posted some images of that area in the Kellyville thread /forum-replies.cfm?t=2429691
I am looking for some clarification on a local tower � the NBN dude that was here seems to think progress will occur in the next couple of months, but I am thinking not.
The tower is 4NGO-51-07-GING, according to http://www.rfnsa2.com.au/CCPa
So, when will we know when it will be started on?
Also, the above link has documents relating to Aurecon's consultative process and the construction plan for the tower as consulted with the community. This plan show a parabolic dish pointing at 227 degrees, but ACMA shows no dish registered on that azimuth. See http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/ra
The dish ACMA knows about points "the wrong way" for the site name to be in 4NGO, and places it in 4BBE (as per finder). The dish ACMA doesn't know about points to "Horsecamp" (which interests me greatly as I live near there). The Aurecon plans don't show a dish pointing where ACMA thinks it is.
So, who wins? ACMA, Aurecon, both, neither (Gin Gin gets nothing as NBN runs out of money before anything actually gets built)?
they were taken down as the results were not matching what was being seen in the wild.
Thanks. :)
Is this finder article ... legit?
Indeed it is! The date is on the right side, under my name :)
Are these still available?
The old link is broken.
What Dazed said. They were removed shortly after the product release of FTTN because I haven't had the time to upgrade and improve the code behind the maps.
I, too, await Mr Mac's maps :) He did most of the pillar-spotting work on my old maps too.
It has jumped from an RFS of 30 Jun to 30 Apr but all week I've been hammering NBN but it is not RFS.
Yeah, sorry :( It's the conflicting satellite footprint data that's causing issues.
I'll go through and audit the data next week once I have fewer assignments on my belt.
I, too, await Mr Mac's maps :) He did most of the pillar-spotting work on my old maps too.
Still working on them in my spare time. Large amount work done, but currently hung up on getting a sustainable & self-updating routing DB based on OSM. Vital work to ensure reasonable level of accuracy without too much manual work (asides from updating global OSM)
Indeed it is!
Thanks. ;)
Still working on them
... and thanks again.
Mr Mac,
What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?
G'day
Most of the nodes in 2MAI-09 have had their DA labels placed on them, I've noticed other suburbs that haven't been computed yet have DA's listed on mynbn, is there any chance this list will be updated soon so I can see which node i'm on? (could be one of two)
Hi jxeeno, could you check status for 4MLS, Maudsland Qld. The RFS shows 20-May-2016 but no-one has heard from NBN yet.
Also one area (Tuxedo Junction Estate) has been installed with FTTP but your finder tool is still reporting FTTN � http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?
If you want distance PM rendrag
so nbnco had a stall set up at the local shopping centre and i asked when the rollout would be ready in my area... lo and behold they went straight to the finder.com.au site instead of any actual data they might have internally.
wow.
What is the rough ready reckoner that we should be using for VDSL2 vs cable loss (dBm) vs distance?
TBH not looking into detail on dBm. It's estimates only with speed formula based on public info on expected speeds and I'll likely only publish a range eg. 60-80 for example. May actually ping Denmark555 as he has collated all the data reports on WP.
so nbnco had a stall set up at the local shopping centre and i asked when the rollout would be ready in my area... lo and behold they went straight to the finder.com.au site instead of any actual data they might have internally.
Wouldn't be the first time. Here is NBNCo showing Deputy PM Truss on how awesome NBNCo on 7:30 Report by using Finder (they were also showing the Wireless info)
TBH not looking into detail on dBm. It's estimates only with speed formula based on public info on expected speeds and I'll likely only publish a range eg. 60-80 for example.
Thanks Mr Mac.
The big variable with denmark 555's data ... is all the variables. :)
From my very limited perspective, this chart is as good as any for good copper and first point termination. :)
http://s32.postimg.org/bx2hf
Source: IDATE (from an Ofcom report)
It certainly plots me in about the right spot, with my speeds in the mid 60's at ~ 600m at Gorokan, NSW
It certainly plots me in about the right spot, with my speeds in the mid 60's at ~ 600m at Gorokan, NSW
This is the baseline graph that I use for my calls, from which I would range. Needs a slight update as my formula drops in a little too early by about 50-100m
Edit: forgot the graph http://i.imgur.com/Vq5no9Z.jpg but will take this to the vdsl thread now (not exactly mynbn!)
this chart is as good as any for good copper
The charts demonstrates that VDSL cannot deliver Malcolm's "guaranteed" 25Mbps if you're more than 1Km from the FTTN "node"
Good to see my are 6JTS has finally been added to the rollout map.
So much for quick roll out.
3EPP was initially planed for June 2016 for construction to start.
NOW it is showing 3 years Plan. ( I am so sad)
Thank you Mr Mac. a very good chart and it puts me at about 65down 25Up however I'm with Optus on 100/40 plan and this is todays 6am speed test http://netgauge.ookla.com/share/460743619.png . I am 527m from node in Gorokan same area as Wahroonga Farm :-)
I rang optus once more and I am now told that, that is all I can get on my line??? I told him I have had speeds of 37Mbps and recorded and should be more but can't get anymore. I have already spoken to NBN and they told me they had advised them see this part of their letter.
"Our records for your address do indicate that your preferred RSP has followed their correct process and lodged an incident for investigation. When checking the incident, we have responded to your RSP with what is causing your speed to be reduced and we have advised them on what they need to do to resolve the issue. You will need to contact your preferred RSP, they will need to check the notes on the incident they lodged through to us and they need to arrange to resolve your issues by following the instructions provided to them."
Well based on all my speed tests I am being screwed.
I'm with Optus
There's your problem right there! Their contention ratios are as bad as Dodo's these days!
4MLS, Maudsland Qld. The RFS shows 20-May-2016
4MLS was activated on 20-May-2016,
Tuxedo Junction still showing technology is Fibre to the Node, whereas all lots in this upmarket estate have FTTP � This photo (http://forum.delimiter.com.a
I'll go through and audit the data next week
Jxeeno � Could you include 4MLS. Why is the technology type in Tuxedo Junction being concealed by NBN � maybe bacause all surrounding areas have the second-rate FTTN? See /forum-replies.cfm?t=2526821#r1
So much for quick roll out.
3EPP was initially planed for June 2016 for construction to start.
NOW it is showing 3 years Plan. ( I am so sad)
Yep ours has been delayed a further 6 months (from Q1 2017 to H2 2017) for the build to start :(
Hi everyone. Needing some advice from the more knowledgable.
I love in 5REL-05 in SA
All of 5REL has ADA info except -05 where I Am.
Anyone know why or how this is updated?
Interested to know how many premises on my node etc
Jxeeno � I see the latest updates on the rollout are dated as 31 Mar, Are you still getting updated ADA info & RFS dates through your sources?
Thanks
As a first point of differentiation, they are no longer announcing any new areas in the Build Preparation phase. This means that even areas usually have at least 3-4 months worth of work done on the ground before it appears on the rollout map.
It's just a political tool.
This is exactly what happened for Alice Springs. We had guys doing inspections and delivering letters to people who were to have an FTTN node outside their house, yet no build prep on the map.
Amazingly the Territory Chief Minister announce the next step of the 'Developing the North' plan for the NT, by the end of the day Alice Springs was suddenly in build preparation......
nvm
Yep ours has been delayed a further 6 months (from Q1 2017 to H2 2017) for the build to start :(
might turn out to be a good thing now as you may get fibre instead
Regarding the mirage that is HFC.
Given 4RDC-68 will be going RFS in 3 weeks time why is there no ADA information yet:
http://www.finder.com.au
And has NBN assigned a Service Class yet to HFC?
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/6COW
Build Commenced
Premises 1,200
About 5 months build prep time considering its a small town and its badly needed there as decent internet access there is terrible....well expensive 4G mobile broadband is the only option otherwise.
I drive through that town on my to work Monday to Friday.
That's the town's Telstra exchange
Looks like all the FTTN SAMs have been switched to Brownfields FTTP again during an update. I didn't think it would be that easy to do :)
There should be more than 5 SAMs in this list for instance...
Well according to the update mynbn website to Flagstaff Hill has just gone into build Preperation although not on the offical nbn website http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/5CMD
Is the website pretty accurate 5CMD has changed today.
Projected # SAMs (may only include 3 yr plan#)Fixed-Line was FTTX5 before today now 6 today
I didn't think it would be that easy to do :)
I think I've found the culprit (currently re-running the update), nbn seems to want to change its technology identifier every month ;)
Any chance of the usual listing of updates?
Given 4RDC-68 will be going RFS in 3 weeks time why is there no ADA information yet:
http://www.finder.com.au
And has NBN assigned a Service Class yet to HFC?
Unfortunately, there's no new data for ADA information at this stage.
There are HFC Service Classes though � SC 20 to 23, mirrors 0-3 on FTTP and 10-13 on other FTTx.
Any chance of the usual listing of updates?
Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.
Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.
Good luck!
Working on it, between study breaks ;) have an exam tomorrow, should probably prioritise that.
Best wish to your exam!
As posted on the rollout progress thread
Rollout Progress Update � June 2016
Full list and details: http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-rollout-update-june-2016
Good luck!
Best wish to your exam!
Thanks y'all
dammit. only 200 house in my town and the x change is across the street. the next town/ x-change to me already has it. no info on mine wtf ..
Thanks for all the hard work with the updates Jxeeno. Seems really weird though that all these areas are going into build yet theres no actual work being done on the ground. My area 3WBO has been in build for nearly 4 months now and I haven't seen any work or any nbn labeled vehicles anywhere, and I've driven around the Brownfields SAM locations. With some sites RFS in Oct and Nov....I can't see them being done anywhere near on time.
There's been no media on it, no work...aside from the occasional vaccum truck, 1 of which I saw 6months ago and another I saw 2 weeks ago...nothing else in between. Really odd. Is this a phenomenon you're seeing in your data analysis of the nbn progress?
I cant believe it. "Build Commenced" has finally happened!!.
I'm in Yass and build commenced only shows for the southern part of the town. I assume it will be done in two stages and they wont just do the southern part and leave the northern? I of course live in the Northen side.
Question guys is this site pretty accurate for rollout information etc because it has Flagstaff Hill 5CMD has just gone into build preparation mode also the number of sams is now 6. The Build preparation isnt show in green on the nbn map yet for my area
this site is inaccurate and has false information on it .
Before the government changed, my area was listed on the map as build commenced.
In come the new government and within a month the entire town was switched to no build commenced, it stayed like that for years.
However I recently had fibre pulled to my house, yup FTTP, its not finished yet, but its not FTTN the map now says that my area is build commenced again, but it also says that everyone is getting FTTN including me, so unless they are going to also run copper from a node I don't see how any of this info on this site can be considered relevant.
The fact that I am getting FTTP means that this build WAS in fact commenced before the change of government as why would they put in FTTP when they are avoiding that at all costs everywhere else ? because it was already in build from labours plan v1. so they lied when they took the build commenced away, and they are lying now when they say this is one of their successes in getting people connected, because labour is getting me connected from plan v1. They also are lying about the tech that is going in on their rollout map.
so first off. Don't believe anything you see on that site, its probably wrong.
secondly yeah I have had this coil of fibre hanging from the wall of my house for over a month now and nothing else has happened the cable is pulled from the FDH to my house .... the map states I am to be ready for service in November this year ?? I don't trust that because everything else about my location is wrong on their site. But having said that I don't doubt it could/will take many more months before I can apply for a service.
this site is inaccurate and has false information on it
Out of curiosity what does the nbnco website say about your location?
The reason why i ask is because Flagstaff Hill has been put into Build preparation on this site but it has not been shaded in green on the official nbn website.
Out of curiosity what does the nbnco website say about your location?
it says
Good news, construction of the nbn� network started in your area using fixed line technology. Construction takes approximately 12 months, on average, to complete.
it goes on to say that fixed line can mean pretty much anything except wireless
it says
Good news, construction of the nbn� network started in your area using fixed line technology. Construction takes approximately 12 months, on average, to complete.
it goes on to say that fixed line can mean pretty much anything except wireless
ahh, so in other words typical NBN crap
this site is inaccurate and has false information on it .
Hi Deadly Chicken,
Firstly, thanks for your feedback. But unfortunately, the information on our site can only be as accurate as what NBN Co provides. The fickle nature of the Multi-Technology Mix rollout means that the final technology you will end up receiving may change even as the build happens.
As I have said on the rollout progress page, the area you're in (which appears to be 4FRV-01, correct me if I'm wrong) has a few "New Development" (Greenfields) rollouts within in. It's possible calculated it would be cheaper to roll out a new fibre cable to your place rather than connect you to a node if you close to a new development.
However, as I have said, even the most recent information from NBN Co indicates that your entire Service Area Module will get FTTN (with the exception of the New Development, obviously).
Don't believe anything you see on that site, its probably wrong.
secondly yeah I have had this coil of fibre hanging from the wall of my house for over a month now and nothing else has happened the cable is pulled from the FDH to my house .... the map states I am to be ready for service in November this year ?? I don't trust that because everything else about my location is wrong on their site. But having said that I don't doubt it could/will take many more months before I can apply for a service
As this thread would show, the site has proved to be quite accurate for the majority of people. There are obviously exceptions to the case and as I've said � we can only be as accurate as the NBN's own information.
In your case, your best method to verify that status of your address is probably to call up or contact NBN Co directly. They have internal systems which can likely tell you which technology your premises is currently designed to use.
Hope that helps,
jx
The reason why i ask is because Flagstaff Hill has been put into Build preparation on this site but it has not been shaded in green on the official nbn website
NBN Co is phasing out the "build preparation" status on its rollout map, meaning it's no longer shaded until your area reaches the "build commenced" stage. From memory, the last batch of "build preparation" which were added to the map were from March 2016 (or thereabouts).
We're looking at a number of options on how best to deal with this situation because as is evident, it causes a bit of confusion when an area does reach the "build preparation" page but an end user can't see themselves on the map.
The truth is, even though we know an area has gone into preparation stage � we don't know the boundaries of that rollout area until it's published by NBN on their rollout map.
I have a question that nobody has been able to answer, maybe someone here can answer it.
On the 16th of May my area in Maryland NSW as well as Fletcher was shown on the rollout map as build has started, then 2 weeks later it only shows Fletcher. Now this week the rollout map shows the other part Maryland has gone into build but not mine. I spoke to construction crew in my street yesterday and they told me that area is 2NTL-01. Which includes the area that shows Fletcher as build. Also Mynbn is now only showing fletcher as of yesterday instead saying parts of Fletcher and Maryland like it said earlier in the week? I am just very confused. Any light on this would be great. Thanks
In your case, your best method to verify that status of your address is probably to call up or contact NBN Co directly. They have internal systems which can likely tell you which technology your premises is currently designed to use.
ok thanks, I didn't mean offense, about the site, its just not accurate for me I know what tech I am getting because
http://users.on.net/~
I'm pretty sure that's fibre pulled to my house ?
I'm pretty sure that's fibre pulled to my house ?
Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg
Edit: Oops, small oversight. Nothing to see here! Move along!
Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg
the cable is the fibre leadin, PCD just hasn't been installed yet.
(there are already 2 cables to the Telstra madison box)
yeah man, calm down .. they only pulled the cable a month ago give them some time :/ lol
Also Mynbn is now only showing fletcher as of yesterday instead saying parts of Fletcher and Maryland like it said earlier in the week? I am just very confused. Any light on this would be great. Thanks
Hi natlee,
I've just checked and can confirm that 2NLT-01 has shrunk westwards between May and June. It's likely that they've split the rollout region into two parts (basically west Fletcher and east Fletcher). However, I'm not privy as to why that's happened... you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.
Sorry I can't help any further.
Cheers,
jx
Hi natlee,
I've just checked and can confirm that 2NLT-01 has shrunk westwards between May and June. It's likely that they've split the rollout region into two parts (basically west Fletcher and east Fletcher). However, I'm not privy as to why that's happened... you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.
Sorry I can't help any further.
Cheers,
jx
Thanks,
I have ask them, via Facebook and email and both times all they told me "the nbn is your at your address, update your email for updates"
However, there was contractors in my street yesterday building a new nbn pit 50meters from node nbn put in in May before they changed the map. Hopefully we have gone back into prep mode. We see a change in the near future.
Thanks for getting back to me
you will have to contact NBN Co (nbn) directly about it.
Hi jxeeno � hope the exams went well.
NBN has been contacted regarding technology type used in the Tuxedo Junction estate in the Maudsland exchange (4MLS) area but have not responded.
Residents in Maudsland are very interested to find out more about how the fully developed 10+ yr old Tuxedo Junction estate managed to get FTTP while surrounding areas have the second rate FTTN, for some this will be a factor in how they vote.
Although this exchange was RFS on 20-May-2016 your info still shows that FTTN has been installed in that location.
Also one area (Tuxedo Junction Estate) has been installed with FTTP but your finder tool is still reporting FTTN � http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
see /forum-replies.cfm?t=2502706#r4
How often do you get updates from NBN?
How many brownfields have you seen change from FTTN to FTTP since Turnbull chucked out FTTP?
Thats for Telstra copper. If it was for FTTP it should look like this � http://i.imgur.com/6rL3iwl.jpg
Edit: Oops, small oversight. Nothing to see here! Move along
just for completeness sake, I came home to this tonight
just for completeness sake, I came home to this tonight
http://users.on.net
Are you in a brownfield? What exchange area?
I thought Malcolm had abandonned FTTP
Hey Jxeeno,
I've noticed a bit of an interesting one and thought you might have some more information on it.
The NBN Service Portal shows the 5REL-03-01 area as Service Class 0 (FTTP) but the Finder Rollout map has the same area as Service Class 10 (FTTN).
Do you know what's happening in this area?
I've noticed a bit of an interesting one
Might be the same as what's happening in Tuxedo Junction, which I've asked jxeeno about on numerous occasions.
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn
Howdy All
I cant see here anything is written about the FTTN boxes in Maryland so thought id add this
There are 3 FTTN boxes now installed in Boundary Road, Maryland
1 near a big telstra pit near the shopping center (opp number 18) and has had techs working on it this week.
the next one is outside 44 Boundary rd, Maryland and the next 72 Boundry Road Maryland
i have seen a digger/driller on the corner of Prospero and Boundry last week and Ill continue to keep watch on the locations as im sure ill be fed from one of the boxes (44 is approx 200mts from box to my house based on past issue, running house to pit, pit to pit across the road, and tech said i was fed from the boundry road direction even though i have a telstra pillar on my opposite corner to my house) .
Cheers
Mike
Warkworth St, Maryland!
I see that you've changed my RFS to 29 May 16, it was 30 Jun 16, neither appear correct, is there an issue with the database for this site?
http://www.finder.com.a
There are 3 FTTN boxes now installed in Boundary Road, Maryland
1 near a big telstra pit near the shopping center (opp number 18) and has had techs working on it this week.
the next one is outside 44 Boundary rd, Maryland and the next 72 Boundry Road Maryland
There is also, 2 in Callan Ave, one at each end. They have been working on them during the week. The funny thing is that we are still not on the map.
Based on the feedback we've received from users about the confusing dual display (rollout region on the left, address info as infobox), we've rolled out an updated map interface to consolidate this data in a single infobox to make it clearer for everyone. The new UI should also be more mobile friendly.
Additional rollout region information such as POI, CSA, SA and SAM continues to be available by clicking the "More info" link.
I see that you've changed my RFS to 29 May 16, it was 30 Jun 16, neither appear correct, is there an issue with the database for this site?
Thanks for the heads up. It should say 31 Aug 2016. I'll investigate what's going on here.
Additional rollout region information such as POI, CSA, SA and SAM continues to be available by clicking the "More info" link.
How would one find out which node they are connected to on the new UI? Used to be on the panel on the left, but now it's no where to be seen.
Also, with the box at the bottom popping up, it makes it feel very cramped. Would be better to have it as a vertical panel like previously IMO, even if it was the same info, just arranged vertically. Or expanding the map vertically another 50% would make it much more usable
Also, with the box at the bottom popping up, it makes it feel very cramped. Would be better to have it as a vertical panel like previously IMO, even if it was the same info, just arranged vertically. Or expanding the map vertically another 50% would make it much more usable
Understood, although the reason behind the move to the bottom pop-up is the make sure it worked with mobile. Having the panel on the LHS made the map fairly unusable on mobile without a slideout panel
How would one find out which node they are connected to on the new UI? Used to be on the panel on the left, but now it's no where to be seen.
You're right. Looks like it got dropped off the final release. It should be there as a tooltip, I'll get it popped back in.
Understood, although the reason behind the move to the bottom pop-up is the make sure it worked with mobile. Having the panel on the LHS made the map fairly unusable on mobile without a slideout panel
Fair enough. I just feel that this feels more spacious and easier to view the map on desktop: http://i.imgur.com/dmMNv3B.png
Could always define the CSS based on screen orientation?
You're right. Looks like it got dropped off the final release. It should be there as a tooltip, I'll get it popped back in.
Thanks, It's a useful tool to figure out line lengths and such!
shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location.
How reliable is info on the finder site with regards to technology type in use?
shows FTTN but FTTP is already active at this location.
How reliable is info on the finder site with regards to technology type in use?
Looking into this. Looks like NBN originally designated FTTN to that address, but switched to FTTP at a later date. We should have an updated address list next week which should solve the issue.
Hi jxeeno,
Thank for the update. For some reason the more info button goes to a 404error in my area. 2NLT-02
I tried other brown areas and they seemed to work.
Also you have our rfs date as December this year but we only just appeared on the Telstra documents about a month ago and our rfs date is listed at 09 may 17.
Thirdly my house is new as of 2014 and is one of three houses that replaced a single dwelling at the same address. Google maps etc only shows the one residence and our 3 addresses have the same location ID. Is this a concern or simply a limitation of the mapping tool until updated by google/nbn
Hi jxeeno,
The SAM for my area shows as "Ready for service" according to the tracker http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sam/2SIL-03
However, on the map, it comes up brown, as in "build commenced". Given the conflicting info, would you say that it's very close to actually being available?
Thanks
It is avaliable. The map updates once a week to reflect the change of colour. You should be good to go.
It is avaliable. The map updates once a week to reflect the change of colour. You should be good to go
Thanks. I thought so too but when I try to sign up with TPG for example, it says my address is not available for NBN yet (and their customer service department confirmed this by phone also) :S
Odd. Have you tried another RSP? Are you in a block of units?
Yes, just tried dodo, and it's the same result. I am in a block of units, does that make a difference?
Sometimes units can be delayed by various reasons. It may be easier for you to post in your recommended area thread to get assistance.
Ok will do. Thanks for your input NetskyAU :)
For some reason the more info button goes to a 404error in my area. 2NLT-02
Thanks for letting me know, looks like an issue with the new map interface. Investigating now :)
We should have an updated address list next week
Of course, after the election, we'll let everyone know that Tuxedo Junction has FTTP (rolled out under MTM) while surrounding areas in Maudsland (4MLS- Gold Coast Hinterland) have second rate FTTN.
Of course, after the election, we'll let everyone know that Tuxedo Junction has FTTP (rolled out under MTM) while surrounding areas in Maudsland (4MLS- Gold Coast Hinterland) have second rate FTTN.
I assure you there is no conspiracy related to the election.
there is not conspiracy related to the election
Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-
Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site
You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.
Thanks for your assurance, but I'll monitor the technology type on this site
Jxeeno runs the site, LOL.
You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.
Classic... Yes he is.
You realise jxeeno is literally the guy who makes that for us all.
Yeah, but sourced from NBN. If you look at that link (today � 4 Jul-2016) it displays "Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".
NBN have not updated whatever jxeeno is using as a data source since that time, I'm suggesting that is/was politically motivated and updates are pending political events. jxeeno has no control of the source of information, but does a fine job of displaying it � better than NBN. Many kudos to jxeeno for such a fine job.
Well, this is embarrassing. I forgot I wouldn't have a stable internet connection today, so update will probably come later this week. Sorry :(
This seems pretty obvious however I'll ask: I am moving to a new estate where myNBN indicates as active greenfield FTTP so I assume that NBN FTTP is a go?
I noted that Harbour ISP had already setup a modem and brochures in my apartment which seems cheeky (or good marketing?).
Well, this is embarrassing. I forgot I wouldn't have a stable internet connection today, so update will probably come later this week. Sorry :(
Classic, you must be on the MTM!
Classic, you must be on the MTM!
You might be able to verify at this website ;-)
Hi Jxeeno, just wondering with 3CRB-07 there is no ADA info available, and its due to go RFS on Friday. I have no idea which Node I am connected to, though I am in a small block of units, is it possible I would get FTTB?
Thanks
"Accurate as at: 2016-02-20".
https://www.finder.com.au/nb
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