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Mandurah WA NBN Rollout part 1

  • 2012-Dec-5, 9:41 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    Now that there is now visual evidence of the Mandurah rollout I thought a thread dedicated to Mandurah (and possibly surounding areas such as Yunderup, Pinjarra and Bouvard) is appropriate.

    Any updates on progress would be great from those in each area.
    There is a wealth of general WA rollout info at

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=1485703

    So far work has begun in the following areas:-

    Mandurah 6MDR :
    01-Mandurah, 02 � Mandurah, 03 � Silversands, 04 � Dudley Park, 05 � Greenfields, 06 � Greenfields,Furnnesdale,Coodanup and Barragup.
    I have seen pit and pipe renewal in 01 to 03 so far.

    Meadowsprings 6MSP:
    01 � Meadowsprings,San Remo,Greenfields ; 02 � San Remo,Madora Bay; 04 Singleton, Golden Bay.

    To see the boundaries or these areas go to http://www.nbnco.com.au/rollout/rollout-map.html
    and type in "Mandurah WA"

  • 2012-Dec-5, 9:41 pm
    rtayman

    I live in Mandurah NBN construction area 6MDR-01.

    In front of the Telephone Exchange in Mandurah, on the east side of Forest Street � of a block North of Pinjarra Road, THERE STANDS THE NBN "Fibre Access Node" (FAN) Cabinet for Mandurah. I came across the FAN Friday, while I was looking around NBN construction area 6MDR-01 for other work being done by SYNTHEO for NBN. North from the FAN on Forest Street, there are about 4 sites where the NBN pipe is being installed.

    I posted this on the 10-November-2012 in the NBN WA Forum.

  • 2012-Dec-6, 9:43 am
    bruce67
    O.P.

    rtayman writes...

    looking around NBN construction area 6MDR-01 for other work being done by SYNTHEO for NBN. North from the FAN on Forest Street, there are about 4 sites where the NBN pipe is being installed.

    Yes they are quite busy in 6MDR01 they seem to replace pits first and then blocked pipe. A lot of pipe work along Mandurah terrace, Sutton street and peel street.

  • 2012-Dec-6, 9:43 am
    bruce67
    O.P.

    Selection from the latest "ready for service" update (first posted in WA role out).

    Noticed contractors pulling draw rope though pits in Murdock drive in Greenfields today (6MDR-06)

    Mandurah Fibre Serving Area

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/mandurah-wa-rollout-map-6mdr.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-dec-2012.pdf
    �6MDR-01 Apr-2013: Mandurah
    �6MDR-02 Jun-2013: Mandurah
    �6MDR-03 May-2013: Mandurah, Silver Sands
    �6MDR-04 Jun-2013: Dudley Park
    �6MDR-05 Oct-2013: Greenfields
    �6MDR-06 Oct-2013: Barragup, Coodanup, Furnissdale, Greenfields
    �6MDR-07 1Q-2014: Coodanup, Dudley Park
    �AYAA-I4J7Q Mar-2013: Nature's Walk (Stage 4)

    Expected dates of Construction Commence
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf
    Erskine, Halls Head
    �6MDR-## Feb-2013
    �6MDR-## Mar-2013
    �6MDR-## Apr-2013
    �6MDR-## Aug-2013

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Meadow Springs Fibre Serving Area

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/meadow-springs-wa-rollout-map-6msp.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-dec-2012.pdf
    �6MSP-01 Jun-2013: Greenfields, Meadow Springs, San Remo
    �6MSP-02 Nov-2013: Madora Bay, San Remo
    �6MSP-03 Aug-2013: Meadow Springs
    �6MSP-04 1Q-2014: Golden Bay, Singleton
    �AYAA-G5VSY 28-Jan-2013: Golden Bay (Stage 1C)
    �AYCA-G9CBL May-2013: Meadow Springs Estate (Stage 21A)

    Expected dates of Construction Commence
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf
    Lakelands, Secret Harbour
    �6MSP-## Apr-2013

  • 2012-Dec-6, 10:20 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    Yunderup Fibre Serving Area

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/yunderup-wa-rollout-map-6ynd.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-dec-2012.pdf
    �6YND-01 Oct-2013: North Yunderup, South Yunderup

  • 2012-Dec-6, 10:20 pm
    Alchemist023

    I live in 6MSP02 (madora) My exchange is heavily congested. Telstra gave us a rebate for last 3mths of contract and will continue to till its resolved they said. Expected date of ready to service Nov 13 u say. Hope this means i dont have another 11mths of this poor service.

  • 2012-Dec-14, 9:58 pm
    bushiebruce

    Alchemist023 writes...

    I live in 6MSP02 (madora)

    Have you tried e-wire. It is a least as fast as the ADSL2 I had at my last house.

  • 2012-Dec-14, 9:58 pm
    Alchemist023

    Some of our neighbours have ewire and are having issues

  • 2012-Dec-15, 11:00 am
    Kyprioth
    this post was edited

    bruce67 writes...

    Expected dates of Construction Commence
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf
    Lakelands, Secret Harbour
    �6MSP-## Apr-2013

    Common sense tells me that April is just the starting point of construction for Secret Harbour, and that I may not have available service here until 2014. However, I cant help but read sites like this one and get my hopes up when it says 'connections due to be available from April'.

    EDIT: Also I'm not sure if my logic here is sound, but from the way they have been working their way from bottom to top with the suburbs from Mandurah to Secret Harbour, I'm partially concerned about the possibility that they will also work from bottom to top within the suburb itself once they actually get to Secret Harbour. My house is about 6 lots away from being the northernmost house in the coverage area, right up in the north west corner. :(

    bushiebruce writes...

    Have you tried e-wire. It is a least as fast as the ADSL2 I had at my last house.

    I don't know about Madora but in both this house and the one my mum was renting around 5 years ago (both in Secret Harbour), we could only get the 'up to 8Mbps' connections from e-wire. My ADSL router syncs between 11 � 14.5Mbps with Westnet, and is generally always reliable except in extreme weather.

    Sorry, I know they are completely separate suburbs and this info most likely won't help in any way. I was never very impressed with e-wire though. Hopefully they have connections available for you ASAP so that you don't have to consider interim options.

  • 2012-Dec-15, 11:00 am
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Kyprioth writes...

    Common sense tells me that April is just the starting point of construction for Secret Harbour, and that I may not have available service here until 2014. However, I cant help but read sites like this one and get my hopes up when it says 'connections due to be available from April'.

    Your common sense is correct, but at this point it's still unclear which of the two remaining FSAMs will see work begin first � the rest of Lakelands or Secret Harbour (I'd presume the former, considering a sliver of it is already covered by Meadow Springs FSAM 6MSP-03).

    EDIT: Also I'm not sure if my logic here is sound, but from the way they have been working their way from bottom to top with the suburbs from Mandurah to Secret Harbour, I'm partially concerned about the possibility that they will also work from bottom to top within the suburb itself once they actually get to Secret Harbour.

    I wouldn't think so, given the size of the FSAMs. Golden Bay and Singleton are covered by the same FSAM (6MSP-04), for instance, which is larger than Secret Harbour.

    I don't know about Madora but in both this house and the one my mum was renting around 5 years ago (both in Secret Harbour), we could only get the 'up to 8Mbps' connections from e-wire. My ADSL router syncs between 11 � 14.5Mbps with Westnet, and is generally always reliable except in extreme weather.

    I find it odd that e-wire hasn't done anything to combat the imminence of the NBN, especially since it's the provider of choice for the more recent suburbs of the mid-south-west. Limiting FTTH to developments closer to the city is completely arbitrary, and there's no technical reason for the limiting of its HFC areas to 8Mbps. Ideally, the company should have followed in the footsteps of Optus, since nobody in their right mind will be using e-wire's network when the FSAMs go live (short of contractual obligations, of course).

  • 2012-Dec-22, 12:39 pm
    Kyprioth

    Bad News Bear writes...

    Limiting FTTH to developments closer to the city is completely arbitrary, and there's no technical reason for the limiting of its HFC areas to 8Mbps.

    I'm by no means an expert but most of the different connections and plans that are only made available closer to the city seem like arbitrary decisions to me.

    I know there's not much point now that the NBN is around the corner, but I've been wondering for years how much effort or expense it would really take to make naked DSL and the cheaper "pro ADSL" plans available in Secret Harbour.

    But I'm getting a bit off topic for this thread.

  • 2012-Dec-22, 12:39 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Kyprioth writes...

    I'm by no means an expert but most of the different connections and plans that are only made available closer to the city seem like arbitrary decisions to me.

    Exactly my point. Even assuming e-wire's HFC network uses an ancient version of DOCSIS, it could still offer plans comparable to the lower tiers offered on the NBN. I can only assume the company isn't taking any sort of initiative because it knows its network isn't up to the task in regard to available bandwidth.

    I know there's not much point now that the NBN is around the corner, but I've been wondering for years how much effort or expense it would really take to make naked DSL and the cheaper "pro ADSL" plans available in Secret Harbour.

    Essentially, Telstra Wholesale is the sole provider of local backhaul (i.e. data transmission) and the resulting costs are too great for ISPs to consider installing their own hardware. iiNet explored the possibility of servicing the three Mandurah exchanges some years ago, but this was quietly shelved for the aforementioned reason.

  • 2012-Dec-22, 1:50 pm
    bushiebruce

    Bad News Bear writes...

    Even assuming e-wire's HFC network uses an ancient version of DOCSIS, it could still offer plans comparable to the lower tiers offered on the NBN.

    I understand that once speeds over a certain limit the ACCC has decreed that it must become open access.

    Telstra Wholesale is the sole provider of local backhaul

    e-wire use wireless for back haul. At one stage when I was having problems with dropouts they blamed cranes working on the hospital at Murdoch with blocking their wireless signals.

  • 2012-Dec-22, 1:50 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    bushiebruce writes...

    I understand that once speeds over a certain limit the ACCC has decreed that it must become open access.

    That can't be true, at least not in every case. You don't see Telstra's or Optus' HFC being offered wholesale, for instance, and both offer up to 100Mbps.

    e-wire use wireless for back haul. At one stage when I was having problems with dropouts they blamed cranes working on the hospital at Murdoch with blocking their wireless signals.

    I wasn't referring to e-wire; Kyprioth effectively asked why there is no third-party hardware in the Secret Harbour exchange.

  • 2012-Dec-22, 6:40 pm
    bushiebruce

    Bad News Bear writes...

    That can't be true, at least not in every case.

    Looks like you are right. I thought I had read it somewhere, but cannot find any mention of it now.

  • 2012-Dec-22, 6:40 pm
    battlefeels

    I live in the Northern end of Greenfields, and the telephone pit has been excavated and fenced off outside my house (and at other locations on my street). The old cabinet case has been smashed and the black cables are exposed. A contractor was there this morning.

    I hope the service is available soon as we are >2km from the nearest copper exchange and we experience constant drop outs, dial up speeds and latency.

  • Bad News Bear

    brakesjm writes...

    I hope the service is available soon as we are >2km from the nearest copper exchange and we experience constant drop outs, dial up speeds and latency.

    The current Ready for Service dates for the two FSAMs that service Greenfields (you can put your address into the rollout map and cross-reference the boundaries against those in this PDF to find which one you're in) are:

    - 6MSP-01: July 2013
    - 6MDR-05: October 2013

  • Warooda

    How do I track down those detailed maps?

    I'm trying to figure out if Red Road in Parklands is getting NBN?
    When they looked at Parklands they included the reserve as habitable land and we don't meet the density requirements for NBN and will be served by fixed wireless..

    Something I hope to get fixed through the City of Mandurah..

  • Bad News Bear

    Warooda writes...

    How do I track down those detailed maps?

    Such as the one I linked to? You can find them on this page. The Meadow Springs map includes Parklands/Stake Hill.

  • Warooda

    Thanks BNB

  • 2013-Jan-16, 4:07 pm
    rtayman

    I live in Mandurah NBN construction area 6MDR-01.

    Today I have seen a "Fibre Distribution Hub" ( FDH ) on the northeast corner of Peel Street and Forest Street in Mandurah.

  • 2013-Jan-16, 4:07 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    rtayman writes...

    Today I have seen a "Fibre Distribution Hub

    Saw that too.

    Increase in replacement pipe work in 6MDR01 and 02. That ditch witch is getting around. Sutton/ Peel street; Reserve drive, Gibson street to name a few.

  • 2013-Jan-21, 9:37 pm
    rtayman
    this post was edited

    I live in Mandurah NBN construction area 6MDR-01.

    Today I came across a second "Fibre Distribution Hub" ( FDH ) on the north side of Rockford Street, just north of Peel Street in Mandurah. I do not know if any cable is inside.

    From the rollout info from NBN for January 2013, construction area 6MDR-01 will have ten "Fibre Distribution Hubs" ( FDHs ). It also shows (NBN ready for service 18-March-2013).
    This seems far too optimistic to me.

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-irrr-dcd-jan-2013.pdf

    Edit:

    I am sure my logic is wrong on the number of FDHs.

    Each FDH is designed to support a maximum of 288 premises.
    Approx premises for this Rollout Region 2900.

    But by having more FDAs (Up to 16) other cables maybe shorter and easier to install.

  • 2013-Jan-21, 9:37 pm
    Aaron I

    Mandurah Fibre Serving Area (6MDR)

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/mandurah-wa-rollout-map-6mdr.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-jan-2013.pdf

    • 6MDR-01 May-2013: Mandurah
    • 6MDR-02 Jun-2013: Mandurah
    • 6MDR-03 May-2013: Mandurah, Silver Sands
    • 6MDR-04 Jun-2013: Dudley Park
    • 6MDR-05 Oct-2013: Greenfields
    • 6MDR-06 Oct-2013: Barragup, Coodanup, Furnissdale, Greenfields
    • 6MDR-07 1Q-2014: Coodanup, Dudley Park
    • AYAA-I4J7Q Apr-2013: Nature's Walk (Stage 4)

    Expected dates of Construction Commence
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf (Oct-2012 Release)
    Erskine, Halls Head

    • 6MDR-## Feb-2013
    • 6MDR-## Mar-2013
    • 6MDR-## Apr-2013
    • 6MDR-## Aug-2013

    Meadow Springs Fibre Serving Area (6MSP)

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/meadow-springs-wa-rollout-map-6msp.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-jan-2013.pdf

    • 6MSP-01 Jun-2013: Greenfields, Meadow Springs, San Remo
    • 6MSP-02 Nov-2013: Madora Bay, San Remo
    • 6MSP-03 Aug-2013: Meadow Springs
    • 6MSP-04 1Q-2014: Golden Bay, Singleton
    • 6MSP-05 2Q-2014: Secret Harbour
    • AYAA-G5VSY 28-Jan-2013: Golden Bay (Stage 1C)
    • AYCA-G9CBL Q4-2013: Meadow Springs Estate (Stage 21A)

    Expected dates of Construction Commence
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf (Oct-2012 Release)
    Golden Bay, Lakelands, Madora Bay, Meadow Springs, San Remo, Secret Harbour, Singleton

    • 6MSP-## Apr-2013

    Yunderup Fibre Serving Area (6YND)

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/yunderup-wa-rollout-map-6ynd.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-jan-2013.pdf

    • 6YND-01 Oct-2013: North Yunderup, South Yunderup
  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    I have some bad yet strange news for most of those in Lakelands: as of this month's rollout update, the remainder of it is apparently no longer part of the current rollout. The suburb is now void of any indicative shading on the rollout map and is also no longer mentioned in the "Communities in the rollout" list. This is particularly strange since 6MSP-03 encroaches a little into Lakelands.

    For comparison, here's an image I put together a few months ago which happens to show the shading and here's Archive.org's snapshot of the aforementioned list, dated last October.

  • kyzer

    Bad News Bear writes...

    the remainder of it is apparently no longer part of the current rollout.

    awesome :(

    This is not good news at all. Might have to send NBN an email or something asking for an answer. Thanks for letting us know.

    your username is rather relevant (once again)

  • 2013-Jan-24, 6:21 pm
    Daniel:)

    Bad news bear

    i saw people doing works across the road from my from my brothers house they had big coils of tubes and was digging holes into the foot path and this was ages ago like 4 months ago maybe longer

  • 2013-Jan-24, 6:21 pm
    Bad News Bear

    blazin1414 writes...

    Bad news bear

    i saw people doing works across the road from my from my brothers house they had big coils of tubes and was digging holes into the foot path and this was ages ago like 4 months ago maybe longer

    I dug through your post history and you mentioned that last August. Assuming it was NBN-related, seeing as work within the aforementioned 6MSP-03 began in July, it's assuredly related to that, otherwise Lakelands would have been flagged as Work Commenced ~4 months ago.

    kyzer writes...

    Might have to send NBN an email or something asking for an answer.

    Be sure to post the response... if you get one. Some weeks ago I sought clarification regarding the footnote in this media release by Conroy, as it implies to me that the fibre rollout in WA will be entirely underground, but never did get a reply.

  • MUFC

    Aaron.. writes...

    6MDR-03 May-2013: Mandurah, Silver Sands

    Oh FFS

    i can't take this much longer.

    I am on the Meadow Springs ADSL exchange, remember when we had that freakishly intense lightning storm a while back ? It damaged the exchange and now according to the tech people at internode, telstra won't fix the problem fully because the NBN is coming and not worth the cost, so i get good speeds in the very early mornings then after 12-1pm the damn speed is congested back to 1.5mbps for the rest of the night.

  • Alchemist023

    Hey MUFC,

    I have had same problem for months on meadow springs exchange. Getting horrid congestion. I called telstra and they refunded our bill for last 3 mths and we will not be paying for our internet until its fixed... which sounds like NBN rollout.

  • 2013-Jan-24, 10:10 pm
    MUFC

    Alchemist023 writes...

    I called telstra and they refunded our bill for last 3 mths and we will not be paying for our internet until its fixed... which sounds like NBN rollout.

    i guess having telstra for an ISP does have some advantages hahaha

    Because the congestion speed is 1.5mbps or better internode don't really care.

  • 2013-Jan-24, 10:10 pm
    Daniel:)

    Anyone seen any work going on around mandurah?

  • 2013-Jan-25, 10:34 am
    bruce67
    O.P.

    blazin1414 writes...

    Anyone seen any work going on around mandurah?

    Depends on what work you are talking about. No fibre yet but major pit and pipe replacement work going on in areas 1 and 2 (central mandurah). The pipe digging in earnest around Peel st, Park rd, Reserve drive and surounding streets. I would guess these will be the first to have fibre hauled.

  • 2013-Jan-25, 10:34 am
    bruce67
    O.P.

    Article in this weeks Mandurah Mail ( hard copy only) re Penny Wong and Gary Gray inspecting Mandurah Fibre access node quotes Ms Wong as saying:-

    "In the coming weeks, contractors will begin rolling green fibre cables into the pits and ducts along the streets of Mandurah."

    I really hope we can take this literally � I will be looking out expectantly.

  • 2013-Jan-25, 1:40 pm
    Ballterror

    Pit maintenance in Coodanup this week is a good sign, paperwork on the dash of the van had " 6MDR___" .so I guess its the NBN.

  • 2013-Jan-25, 1:40 pm
    Daniel:)

    i saw people on steerforth doing something with the pits a few days ago

  • 2013-Jan-31, 12:22 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    Spotted an NBN contractor today on Halls head parade with a telstra network map and a measuring wheel. I guess this means work has started in Halls Head. Bring it on :)

  • 2013-Jan-31, 12:22 pm
    Aaron I

    Mandurah Fibre Serving Area (6MDR)

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/mandurah-wa-rollout-map-6mdr.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-feb-2013.pdf

    • 6MDR-01 Jun-2013: Mandurah
    • 6MDR-02 Sep-2013: Mandurah
    • 6MDR-03 Aug-2013: Mandurah, Silver Sands
    • 6MDR-04 Sep-2013: Dudley Park
    • 6MDR-05 Oct-2013: Greenfields
    • 6MDR-06 Oct-2013: Barragup, Coodanup, Furnissdale, Greenfields
    • 6MDR-07 Dec-2013: Coodanup, Dudley Park
    • 6MDR-09 2Q-2014: Halls Head
    • AYAA-I4J7Q Apr-2013: Nature's Walk (Stage 4)

    Expected dates of Construction Commence
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf (Feb-2013 Release)
    Erskine, Halls Head

    • 6MDR-## Jan-2013
    • 6MDR-## Mar-2013
    • 6MDR-## Jul-2013

    Meadow Springs Fibre Serving Area (6MSP)

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/meadow-springs-wa-rollout-map-6msp.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-feb-2013.pdf

    • 6MSP-01 Sep-2013: Greenfields, Meadow Springs, San Remo
    • 6MSP-02 Nov-2013: Madora Bay, San Remo
    • 6MSP-03 Jul-2013: Meadow Springs
    • 6MSP-04 Feb-2014: Golden Bay, Singleton
    • 6MSP-05 2Q-2014: Secret Harbour
    • AYAA-G5VSY TBA: Golden Bay (Stage 1C)
    • AYCA-G9CBL Q4-2013: Meadow Springs Estate (Stage 21A)

    Yunderup Fibre Serving Area (6YND)

    Detailed Map
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/maps/yunderup-wa-rollout-map-6ynd.pdf

    Expected dates of Ready For Service
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-feb-2013.pdf

    • 6YND-01 Oct-2013: North Yunderup, South Yunderup
  • 2013-Jan-31, 10:56 pm
    MUFC

    Aaron.. writes...

    Expected dates of Ready For Service

    6MDR-03 Aug-2013: Mandurah, Silver Sands

    since your last post it has gone from may to aug in 1 month ? what in the hell are they doing ?

  • 2013-Jan-31, 10:56 pm
    Aaron I

    MUFC writes...

    since your last post it has gone from may to aug in 1 month ? what in the hell are they doing ?

    Hi MUFC,

    NBN Co have adjusted their expectation based on feedback from their construction contractor, Syntheo. I don't know what issues are currently being faced but NBN Co are "working closely with Syntheo to try and recover their original forecast".

    Thanks, Aaron

  • 2013-Mar-9, 12:45 pm
    bushiebruce

    scarytas writes...

    They would probable be able to save the rear wall since you have been so pro NBN in all your posts. :)

    Who said I particularly want the NBN. My understanding there is no option with the new policy of connecting to all premises.

  • 2013-Mar-9, 12:45 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    rtayman writes...

    Today I have seen "GREEN" Fibre going in the ground next to the "Fibre Distribution Hub" ( FDH ) on the northeast corner of Peel Street and Forest Street in Mandurah.

    Can't believe you spotted the "magic" green fibre before I did � I've been keeping a good look out. Looks like its the main link back to the Main Hub next to the exchange.

  • 2013-Mar-9, 2:59 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    bushiebruce writes...

    I wondered which pits would be used as their are also coms pits owned by e-wire (presumably) for the HFC cabling in the estate.

    The ewire and telsta pits are normally next to each other, they would not use ewire unless they nhad a seperate agreement to use them.

    Wonder how NBN will connect to our house as I never had Telstra service

    Whether or not you use telstra, your builder should have at least had the telsta pipe run to your wall where I presume the ewire one comes up. If not that will make things interesting.

  • 2013-Mar-9, 2:59 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    bushiebruce writes...

    Who said I particularly want the NBN.

    Colour me surprised if e-wire is still around by the decade's end, when it'll have to compete with the NBN in many if not most of its service areas. E-wire's plans are actually well-priced but the company can't provision enough bandwidth to save its life, which is why its HFC and FTTH services have been capped to 8Mbit and 25Mbit respectively for several years now � the recent plan changes to combat the imminent NBN arrivals being in the form of quota increases and price reductions but not speed increases is telling enough.

    The company will be kicking itself in a few years for not immediately following in the footsteps of Optus and selling off its HFC/FTTH customers to NBN Co; sooner or later 8Mbit/25Mbit isn't going to be enough for the general household and e-wire will have no response, assuming it's even in the position to offer one. The only out I see for e-wire is in the form of selling off what infrastructure it can to NBN Co. and becoming an RSP; it's either that or gradually fall into irrelevance.

  • 2013-Mar-9, 3:04 pm
    Daniel:)

    When is the next "ready for service date" going to be updated :)

  • 2013-Mar-9, 3:04 pm
    cashcow

    Well colour me suprised, unannounced Halls Head has been updated to construction commenced in January.
    http://www.nbnco.com.au/when-do-i-get-it/rollout-map.html?icid=pub:hme:rollout:hro:img

  • Kyprioth

    Was checking the rollout map recently and saw something that has me a little concerned.

    I'm in 6MSP-05, Secret Harbour, but my house is right at the top end of the suburb, and the colouring on the map shows only a tiny portion of Secret Harbour actually covered.

    Picture here

    Is this significant in any way? I thought at first that maybe they were only including a few premises, because they overlapped with the radius that would be covered by a nearby zone like Golden Bay, but if that were the case, they wouldn't list Secret Harbour as an individual zone.

    Also, can somebody educate me on proper terminology here? I'm calling them zones or nodes but from what I've seen NBN uses multiple kinds of stations? I'm still used to ADSL exchanges and apparently with NBN it's nothing like that.

  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Tomorrow should bring NBN Co's updated rollout plan for the next three years, so I think you'll find that the rest of Secret Harbour will be included, presumably with construction to begin within the next year. It's odd that the first FSAM is so small, though; it's literally around half the size of 6MSP-04. (Fibre Serving Area Module being the term you're looking for.)

    I'm looking forward to the updated rollout plans as I'm very curious as to where Lakelands landed after being tossed aside at some point between December and January.

  • 2013-Mar-9, 6:10 pm
    Warooda

    BNB:

    Did you see any changes to Lakelands? Parklands is still without a date.. Not even a mention of wireless yet..

  • 2013-Mar-9, 6:10 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Warooda writes...

    BNB:

    Did you see any changes to Lakelands?

    As far as I can tell there's been no movement since it was dropped from the rollout.

    Edit: Huh, Rockingham and its surrounding suburbs are now a three-year site:

    Cooloongup, East Rockingham, Hillman, Peron, Rockingham, Safety Bay, Shoalwater, Waikiki

    Fibre | Construction to commence within three years � we will commence construction from Dec 2014 in phases with last construction scheduled to commence in Dec 2015*.

    Edit edit: To clarify, Rockingham and co. weren't included in the current rollout plans at all just a week or so ago.

  • 2013-Mar-17, 2:01 pm
    kyzer

    Bad News Bear writes...

    As far as I can tell there's been no movement since it was dropped from the rollout.

    great and I had no real information from NBN when I directly inquired about the lakelands drop out. oh well...

  • 2013-Mar-17, 2:01 pm
    Py1thon

    Any updates?

  • 2013-Mar-17, 8:09 pm
    Daniel:)

    Any news?

  • 2013-Mar-17, 8:09 pm
    Kyprioth

    There still doesn't seem to be any update or explanation available regarding why the colour shading doesn't seem to cover the rest of Secret Harbour. I'm seriously hoping at this stage that it's just a mistake, as it does say my address is included in that FSAM.

  • dedalus

    At least it seems to getting closer to you guys. I'm worried that come September it'll never get to where I live. Can you please vote the right way so we all get the thing?

  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    Kyprioth writes...

    There still doesn't seem to be any update or explanation available regarding why the colour shading doesn't seem to cover the rest of Secret Harbour. I'm seriously hoping at this stage that it's just a mistake, as it does say my address is included in that FSAM.

    Unless your address is actually within the boundaries of the FSAM, there are currently no plans to connect it.

    If the March RFS report doesn't hit tomorrow, it means one of three things:

    1) It'll be released early into April
    2) It'll be skipped in favour of the April report
    3) Due to the slipping rollout figures, NBN Co will no longer release monthly reports in an attempt to effectively hide the currently sub-par rollout performance

    We'll have our answer within about 2.5 weeks.

  • 2013-Mar-20, 1:10 pm
    Py1thon

    So tommorow is the update if that fails its 2.5 weeks where getting very close into april when the meadow springs should be turned on.

  • 2013-Mar-20, 1:10 pm
    Daniel:)

    I don't know if they updated it or not but the colour of the roll out map as changed

  • Bad News Bear

    BraydenC writes...

    So tommorow is the update if that fails its 2.5 weeks where getting very close into april when the meadow springs should be turned on.

    I'll eat my hat if it's uploaded over the weekend.

    blazin1414 writes...

    I don't know if they updated it or not but the colour of the roll out map as changed

    Yeah, and it's repulsive. There was nothing wrong with the previous, brighter scheme.

  • Daniel:)

    Bad News Bear writes...

    Yeah, and it's repulsive. There was nothing wrong with the previous, brighter scheme.

    No idea why they keep changing it :/

  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    linoc writes...

    Sorry NOOB question
    How do I (we) work out which 6MDR I'm on?

    Plug your address into NBN Co's rollout map, zoom in a bit and compare the boundary lines to those in this PDF (others can be found on this page). I did suggest in the NBN blog thread that FSAM identifiers be added to the rollout map, but this apparently fell on blind eyes.

    You're in 6MDR-02, by the way.

  • linoc

    Thanks Bear, guess you do give Bad News ;-)

    I did notice you put 6MDR-02 in your 1st post to me but wasn't sure if that specifically meant I was on it, was hoping I'd be apart of 6MDR-01 � ##

    We all might have to sell up and move down the road a bit ;-)

  • 2013-Jun-18, 9:15 pm
    MUFC

    a bit off topic but has anyone on the Meadow Springs ADSL DSLAM noticed improvements today ? Usually by 5pm i would be seeing 1.3mbps speeds, today i am getting 12-13mbps again.

    Did telstra actually fix something ?

  • 2013-Jun-18, 9:15 pm
    DJ_B00

    So it finally says that I am live and Fibre is Available at my address, only one problem... the list of providers only says Telstra... seriously that cant be correct?? I was of the understanding we could choose whoever we thought was giving us the best package, not boxing us in to Telstra STILL... anyone know the facts on who can provide in Mandurah?? (6MDR-01) ** THEY DONT STILL CONSIDER US REGIONAL DO THEY? **

  • 2013-Jun-19, 7:07 pm
    linoc

    MUFC writes...

    a bit off topic but has anyone on the Meadow Springs ADSL DSLAM noticed improvements today ? Usually by 5pm i would be seeing 1.3mbps speeds, today i am getting 12-13mbps again.

    Did telstra actually fix something ?

    Lucky you, Mandurah tonight
    6/18/2013 11:11 PM WST (10.06Mb/s) � http://speedtest.net/result/2781507500.png
    6/19/2013 7:13 PM WST (1.08Mb/s) � http://speedtest.net/result/2783388128.png

  • 2013-Jun-19, 7:07 pm
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    DJ_B00 writes...

    So it finally says that I am live and Fibre is Available at my address, only one problem... the list of providers only says Telstra... seriously that cant be correct?? I was of the understanding we could choose whoever we thought was giving us the best package, not boxing us in to Telstra STILL... anyone know the facts on who can provide in Mandurah??

    This is the issue a few ISPs have with the Early Access program: they consider it an advantage to Telstra because it has the resources to service individual FDHs whereas they argue that they need to wait until enough premises within the PoI are passed before they can justify the investment. That said, call up your ISPs of choice and inquire, because it's possible that NBN Co's publicly published data is lagging behind.

    ** THEY DONT STILL CONSIDER US REGIONAL DO THEY? **

    I'm happy to say that the "Metro" and "Regional"/"Rural" distinctions are well and truly dead under the NBN.

  • rtayman

    DJ_B00 writes...

    So it finally says that I am live and Fibre is Available at my address, only one problem... the list of providers only says Telstra... seriously that cant be correct??

    I live in (6MDR-01) but not in one if the two Early Access areas. Today I was speaking to a smaller RSP in Melbourne "Infinity NBN". and he said he could supply NBN for Mandurah. I take it that you live in one of the two Early Access areas, shown on the active NBN site. I don't think "Infinity NBN" is doing MDU's yet.

    www.infinitynbn.com.au/

  • DJ_B00

    Yeah I am on Tuckey St. Thanks for the info. I will have a chat to NBNCo today and my friends at Internode. Sounds as though if the ISP is prepared to supply to an area regardless of the demand then I should be fine. Will let you know how I get on!

  • Enilyks_

    Apparently there is going to be an announcment made today about NBN being turned on in the Mandurah area and being available for approx 30K homes.

  • Enilyks_

    Yes! NBN has been switched in in Mandurah on Friday, has anyone rang an ISP's to order/organise their installation for those who have the service turned on in their area?

  • Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    I think that's just in reference to more of 6MDR-01 being online. The NBN being available to ~30k homes would mean all 11 6MDR FSAMs are live.

  • DJ_B00

    I rang NBNCo last friday and had a chat, they dont seem to be too up to speed with the WA strata laws... anyways, at the moment Telstra is the only one who is available to service the early release areas of 6MDR-01. Hoping that by the time NBNCo organises their cabling partner to contact me, and we get the house wired up, some other ISP's have come online and i'll be able to have a decent choice of plans.

    I'm looking at internode, and spoke with them on friday also. They already provide NBN to the small new estate in Waikiki along with several other ISP's, so we can rest assured that Telstra isnt our only option for too long!

  • 2013-Jun-20, 12:47 am
    linoc

    Good News! Thanx for sharin, should be well and truly sorted come � 02
    Tel$tra just doesn't look right without the $

  • 2013-Jun-20, 12:47 am
    Bad News Bear
    this post was edited

    At worst you'll have to wait a couple more months for the entirety of 6MDR-01 to be online. I'm not exactly surprised that ISPs aren't falling over themselves to service 100-odd premises.

    Edit: This will become less and less of an issue as the rollout continues since it's the amount of serviceable premises in any given Point of Interconnect footprint that's of concern to ISPs, rather than the footprint of individual FSAMs. The Pinjarra PoI is actually second only to the one all the way down in Katanning as WA's southern-most PoI, and is itself followed by the one in Wattleup (~15KM north of Rockingham). Most of WA's remaining PoIs are bunched together in the Perth metro area, towards the city.

  • 2013-Jun-20, 7:00 am
    Michelle73

    We enquired with Telstra yesterday and now they say that Meadow Springs won't be turned on until Greenfields is completed... in Feb 2014. Balls.

  • 2013-Jun-20, 7:00 am
    Bad News Bear

    Michelle73 writes...

    We enquired with Telstra yesterday and now they say that Meadow Springs won't be turned on until Greenfields is completed... in Feb 2014. Balls.

    That's true of 6MSP-01, but 6MSP-03 is currently scheduled to go live in a few months (October).

  • 2013-Jun-21, 10:56 am
    Daniel:)

    Would the roll out speed up once other areas are getting finished? for mandurah

  • 2013-Jun-21, 10:56 am
    DJ_B00

    Ugh getting over this whole thing pretty quickly. Getting the same dreaded feeling i have gotten for the past 10 years dealing with Telco's/ISP's...

    Got this back from Internode today after several emails back and forth....

    "The information provided to you in regards to the serviceability of your residence is provided by NBNCo which we relay back to yourself (the customer). I have checked their ordering system again this morning and your address is still being listed as a not serviceable residence.

    I have also checked single based addresses on your street to see if they are serviceable and they are also coming up as not being serviceable. With this information gained this morning, this indicates that the NBN network is not live on your street at this stage."

    So can someone tell me why the NBNCo site is telling us customers one thing, and the ISPs telling us another thing?
    Or am i completely off track?
    Could this be due to no house physically being wired up or is the actual service not available even though the NBNCo site indicates it is....?

  • 2013-Jun-23, 1:46 am
    Bad News Bear

    blazin1414 writes...

    Would the roll out speed up once other areas are getting finished? for mandurah

    It's possible. Syntheo hasn't "commenced work" in a new WA-based FSAM since March � I think NBN Co finally realised that working through the backlog would look better on paper than having a million Work Commenced FSAMs with no actual work being done.

    DJ_B00 writes...

    Could this be due to no house physically being wired up

    I don't think so. Early FSAMs are "demand drop" which means the PCD is only installed when a resident orders a service, rather than the "build drop" in newer FSAMs whereby the PCD is installed as the fibre is hauled through the street (unless one would prefer to opt out).

    Call up NBN Co and see what they have to say.

  • 2013-Jun-23, 1:46 am
    Mr FatPat

    Folks,

    I had the pleasure of attending an NBN information evening that was organised by Gary Gray, and who had invited Stephen Conroy (The NBN Minister) in Kwinana a month or so ago. It was an interesting evening, and whilst I think that they were preaching to the converted in a sense, it was still still a nice way to see how it is put together.

    Anyway, Gary Gray has organised another couple of meetings, and the email indicated that he was happy for me to share this information with any interested folk. Drop me a whim if you would like the details passed along.

    Pat

    ----------------------------------------

    The two locations are...

    Meadow Springs Golf Club, Meadow Springs Drive, Meadow Springs WA 6210,

    and...

    Hillman Hall, Unnaro Street, Hillman WA 6168

    -----------------------------------------

    The date is mid-July. I don't wish to post real dates, as some of the Anti-NBN'ers may spam the shit out of the venues and block legit bookings.

    :)

  • linoc

    U Wanker.... rub it in lol

    Never thought I'd see those figures in Mandrah

  • Rayleyne

    it feels... so responsive

  • 2013-Nov-7, 8:18 pm
    kal31doscop3

    Rayleyne writes...

    http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3084662910

    I got connected today

    wow that upload speed...so jealous xd
    what kind of pings do you get to sydney and the US?

  • 2013-Nov-7, 8:18 pm
    Rayleyne

    59 to brisbane and 93.4/35.4

    200 to Sanfran CA and 30/25

  • 2013-Nov-7, 8:51 pm
    kal31doscop3

    Rayleyne writes...

    TO
    Rayleyne...

    59 to brisbane and 93.4/35.4

    200 to Sanfran CA and 30/25

    pretty solid.

  • 2013-Nov-7, 8:51 pm
    Orlando Rossiter

    When is older Meadow Springs gonna be finished? I just bought a house there because it will have NBN soon.

  • 2013-Nov-7, 9:41 pm
    cashcow

    Stan D writes...

    it will have NBN soon

    You answered your own question. :)

  • 2013-Nov-7, 9:41 pm
    Orlando Rossiter

    The website says February but the NBN contractors have finished their work. It was originally due to be completed in November but then they decided to wait until Greenfields was done too. Could it be reverting back to the original November date now?

  • 2013-Nov-8, 12:51 am
    t N j

    I know somebody who lives on Oakmont Ave and they where told next week by contractors

  • 2013-Nov-8, 12:51 am
    Robp69

    Stan, I'm Meadow Springs and I'm booked in for an install in 2 weeks time. Would've been next week but I have too much on � 100Mb and 500/500 � can't wait, been stuck on 8Mb for far too long :)

  • 2013-Nov-8, 2:55 pm
    linoc

    Be interesting if you guys getting connected could post for us others;

    1/ Which supplier your going with and why, i.e. used them with ADSL, to lazy to find another, best deal available, what kind of commitment/price etc.

    2/ Any connection hassles you experience, i.e. customer service, local installers reliability, tidiness with instal work in your home etc.

    Cheers!

  • 2013-Nov-8, 2:55 pm
    kal31doscop3

    linoc writes...

    Be interesting if you guys getting connected could post for us others;

    1/ Which supplier your going with and why, i.e. used them with ADSL, to lazy to find another, best deal available, what kind of commitment/price etc.

    2/ Any connection hassles you experience, i.e. customer service, local installers reliability, tidiness with instal work in your home etc.

    Cheers!

    ^^^this :D

  • 2013-Nov-8, 3:21 pm
    t N j

    Robp69 writes...

    Stan, I'm Meadow Springs and I'm booked in for an install in 2 weeks time. Would've been next week but I have too much on � 100Mb and 500/500 � can't wait, been stuck on 8Mb for far too long :)

    Ha you poor thing, I'm still on 1.5 and my area appears to have been scrapped!

  • 2013-Nov-8, 3:21 pm
    battlefeels

    6MSP-01 isn't meant to be switched on until February, but with the flurry of activity in the past couple of months, it looks as though all the groundwork could be done by the end of this month.

    Does it ever occur that an area goes online before it is scheduled to? Might have to take the 'No Junk Mail' sign off the letterbox to get an idea of providers.

  • 2013-Nov-8, 3:30 pm
    Bad News Bear

    brakesjm writes...

    Does it ever occur that an area goes online before it is scheduled to? Might have to take the 'No Junk Mail' sign off the letterbox to get an idea of providers.

    It's not unheard of, but as you can imagine, such cases are decidedly rare.

  • 2013-Nov-8, 3:30 pm
    welkin

    Will probably be the best part of a year before we can use it but we have green cable in Madora Bay!

  • 2013-Nov-8, 8:36 pm
    linoc

    They were feeding cable east up Cooper & Elizabeth from Anstruther today, thought they would have already finished through there

  • 2013-Nov-8, 8:36 pm
    fluxcapacitor

    Went to look up my address on the nbn website and it is showing my street is now active with half of meadow springs. Hope this is correct, will try phoning iinet and see if the can confirm this as last time they couldnt give me a date.

  • 2013-Nov-9, 11:05 am
    fluxcapacitor

    Should find our mon/tues if they have updated the database so my isp can place the order. Fingers crossed :)

  • 2013-Nov-9, 11:05 am
    VoodooMeatBucket

    t N j writes...

    Ha you poor thing, I'm still on 1.5 and my area appears to have been scrapped!

    yeah I get up to 6.5Mbit depending on congestion and if it has rained withing the last 2 days which pretty much ensures that I get about 40% packet loss. I also have been scrapped.

  • 2014-Apr-1, 6:31 pm
    sdokeefe

    Quick question, my sister is moving into Meadow Springs and is lucky enough to be in a fixed line service available area. They take possession of the house in roughly 7 weeks, are they able to order the NBN now in order to reduce the waiting time? Or do they have to wait until they've moved in?

    Chur,

  • 2014-Apr-1, 6:31 pm
    Bad News Bear

    sdokeefe writes...

    Quick question, my sister is moving into Meadow Springs and is lucky enough to be in a fixed line service available area. They take possession of the house in roughly 7 weeks, are they able to order the NBN now in order to reduce the waiting time? Or do they have to wait until they've moved in?

    Chur,

    It couldn't hurt to try and book an install now seeing as people are currently waiting anywhere between several weeks and a few months.

  • Kyprioth
    this post was edited

    I was driving to work a couple hours ago, and saw a ute parked on the side of Carcoola Avenue in North Pinjarra with two blokes in high vis looking into some kind of pit at about 4:15 pm.

    There were a few stickers on the side of the van, including an NBN Co sticker. I didn't have time to stop and get a better look or take a photo but it was roughly here, on the East side of the road.

    EDIT � I'm almost positive the ute had a company label on it that had something to do with cabling, I think it started with an S, maybe Silcar.

  • Sting17

    Kyprioth writes...

    I was driving to work a couple hours ago, and saw a ute parked on the side of Carcoola Avenue in North Pinjarra with two blokes in high vis looking into some kind of pit at about 4:15 pm.

    I spoke with these guys this morning on Wisteria. Posted about it in the Pinjarra NBN thread. They were from Wiretel

  • dwoods77
    this post was edited

    Have seen a bit of activity in greenfields the last couple of days. Yesterday morning saw a terravac truck and a few telstra workers talking in the carpark at bortolo park, then had them doing some work outside my house looking for pipework. Have seen in a few other threads that it could be tested clearing the pits and pipes in readiness for nbnco to start doing there thing.... Looking very promising!!

    Edit: just saw telstra workers on Waldron boulevard working in a pit, roll of green cable on the ground beside them.

  • sdokeefe

    I really hope you're right mate,

  • 2014-Apr-3, 4:07 pm
    Daniel:)

    I hope they do more than just greenfields :P

  • 2014-Apr-3, 4:07 pm
    bruce67
    O.P.

    According to my source the only confirmed new construction in Mandurah SO FAR is MDR04.

  • sdokeefe

    Im in 6MDR-05, but I'm on the hospital side of Lakes rd, which hopefully wont be a barrier.

  • Meth

    6MDR-06 & 07 are going ahead as FTTH.

    Information from Downer EDI meeting last week. 6MDR-07 is awaiting multiple pit repair which is holding things up. Proof of such works in Coodanup at the moment, multiple pits on Wanjeep and surrounding streets with Telstra barriers in place.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 4:57 pm
    Bad News Bear

    bruce67 writes...

    According to my source the only confirmed new construction in Mandurah SO FAR is MDR04.

    Meth writes...

    6MDR-06 & 07 are going ahead as FTTH.

    Information from Downer EDI meeting last week. 6MDR-07 is awaiting multiple pit repair which is holding things up. Proof of such works in Coodanup at the moment, multiple pits on Wanjeep and surrounding streets with Telstra barriers in place.

    Sounds like 6MSP-04 will be waiting longer still despite construction "commencing" in September 2012 as per Labor's broad definition. I figured this would happen but it's still a bit of dick move to not base the continuation of the rollout within pre-existing FSAs on the previous FSAM commencement dates.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 4:57 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    6MDR-06 & 07 are going ahead as FTTH.

    Information from Downer EDI meeting last week. 6MDR-07 is awaiting multiple pit repair which is holding things up. Proof of such works in Coodanup at the moment, multiple pits on Wanjeep and surrounding streets with Telstra barriers in place.

    I'm taking this as good news for 6MDR-07? :D i certainly hope so.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 6:22 pm
    Ballterror

    6MDR-06 & 07 are going ahead as FTTH.

    Thanks for the info Meth, sounds like great news.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 6:22 pm
    Cato

    blazin1414 writes...

    I hope they do more than just greenfields :P

    Yeah can they work on Halls Head. even if it's FTTN from McClarty would shut me up a bit.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 8:18 pm
    fluxcapacitor

    Does anyone know if meadow springs 6MSP-03 will still all get finished?

    Havent seen any workers in the area for ages and im on 6MSP-03-13 which looks to not even have been started, it's like we are surrounded by people getting fibre and they have forgotten about our little area? Everytime i contact the NBN all i get back is they still havent commenced work.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 8:18 pm
    Sojourner

    Can anyone give an update for 6MDR-05? Family is wanting a solution for a poor home phone line in a bad mobile phone reception area. Annoys me when the neighbours are in 6MSP-01.

  • 2014-Apr-4, 9:29 pm
    Millsb0mb

    I would also love to know if there has been any news on the 6MDR-05

  • 2014-Apr-4, 9:29 pm
    Daniel:)

    Meth writes...

    Proof of such works in Coodanup at the moment, multiple pits on Wanjeep and surrounding streets with Telstra barriers in place.

    Hey, i was just wondering what streets have the telstra barriers in place? also hows the likely hood of steerforth getting done as one of the first streets.
    Thanks.

  • Bad News Bear

    fluxcapacitor writes...

    Does anyone know if meadow springs 6MSP-03 will still all get finished?

    It will. The tiny sliver that's not yet RFS is a greensfield area that is marked as "build commenced" on the rollout map.

  • skrutinizer

    As far as I can see from the maps etc...NBN will only be going to half of Greenfields? That is the western side of the Lakes Rd boundary.the Eastern side of Lakes Rd wont be ready until at least 2015?

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