whirlpool

That, in fact, is an old project of mine.

damn. wish i'd known about this site before now.
it has info useful to me.

oh well at least the new rollout tracker project will be handy too.

Nice job! Bookmarked and will be watching!

One question, how do you estimate the progress? Is it just a calculation from time commenced to time expected?

Nice work

O.P.

ungulate writes...

No data on Taigum?

Only "Work Commenced" data is displayed for now. While the data for "one year to go" rollouts are available on the NBN Co. website � the only data I can retrieve is FSA Name, Locality, State and Postcode which might not be of much use to most people.

looktall writes...

damn. wish i'd known about this site before now.
it has info useful to me.
It won't be phased out just yet :) I'll keep everything there for now as greenfields have not been transfered over to this site. Were there any particular features that the nbnco.wikidot.com site has that you wanted in particular?

One question, how do you estimate the progress? Is it just a calculation from time commenced to time expected?
Yup :) Here is how it's estimated:

first four months: detailed design
last month: testing and activation
everything else: construction

If no time expected is given, it's estimated to be 12 moths after commencement.

Yup :)

Cool. Thanks again!

Thanks JXeeno much appreciated

Thats awesome! Good work!

Were there any particular features that the nbnco.wikidot.com site has that you wanted in particular?

not as such, it just has info for 6ELB.

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Pretty neat. Unfortunately I am not in 1Y3.

Maybe if I put my joint into this App, NBN would bump up the priority ;-)

edited � I am not even in http://www.nbn.gov.au/2013/05/05/2013-16-nbn-fibre-rollout-plan-released-2/ :-(

Awesome stuff thanks for the time to make something like this.

But i have to ask can NBN Co say what each FSAM is waiting for.

Waiting for parts, labour, had pit/duct difficulties on xyz street?

These are the things im curious about.

Saying construction started doesnt really tell me much.

O.P.

foldking86 writes...

Saying construction started doesnt really tell me much.

Yeah, I realise it doesn't say much. But unfortunately, I'm just another regular person � without special access to NBN Co. internal data. Plus, I doubt that even NBN Co. can tell us exactly what pipes are broken or blocked, or exactly where their contractors are working on a given day.

The idea of this website is to create an easy way to visualise the information presented on the NBN Co's Monthly Rollout List and the data from the NBN Interactive Map (in KML, JSON and CSV formats).

I did have plans to create a crowd-sourced information platform � but that's what Whirlpool is for.

And... just a general list of improvements:

added some missing FSAs � greenfield FSAs and pre-2013 completed FSAs
added states filter at the top of FSA list
added greenfields tag for all Greenfield FSAMs

Good stuff.
I was waiting for NBN to give data on 2RYD brownfields in June. Your site will save me searching through data when NBN co release it. The layout seems logical. Easy to follow.

Can't believe the NBN did not come to Macquarie Park earlier with all the tech companies here. Every time I go past microsoft, I feel like urinating on their front gate. Don't know why though. I'm really not that sort of person. Maybe switching to Linux has messed with my head.

Fantastic job, love the site. It answers the only two questions I have about the rollout very quickly, 1. Do I have it yet? 2. How close is it? However, how did you extract then validate the data from the NBN website? Reason I ask is that I checked out the FSAM I am on 4GDN-08. You have it listed as 'Ready for Service', but the NBN doco, has it not 'Ready for Service' until Feb-2014. http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-monthly-may-2013.pdf
You got me excited!!

after searching my area 3smr-05, i noticed that the bar which says "Construction" is almost completed.

Is this accurate?

It's an admirable project, but if it's an upgrade of the other NBNCo wikidot.com it's strange that it lacks a proper search facility. Typing eg Picton, NSW doesn't find a match, whereas the wikidot.com page does.

The NBNCo rollout map is superior to both in terms of ease-of-use. It also lists all the going-forward rollouts on the map. For example, typing Bradbury (or any variant such as Bradbury NSW) into this new project doesn't find a match, but zooming in on NBNCo's map finds it quickly, and diaplays the build-schedule information.

So the database of places is incomplete.

The author's previous wikidot.com as it stands is cleaner to look at, IMO. It doesn't have advertising, and has a better main links menu, including one to the rollout map. Advertising placements on this new project really mars it.

The other thing about the new version is that with the search box, what do you type in? Just "Penrith", or "Penrith N.S.W.", or "Penrith NSW", or "Penrith NSW Australia". This is confusing for the user, particularly since when a match is not found the user won't know who's fault that is, the database or his entry format.

Also this search field appears 3 times on the main page: which is doubly confusing.

I think both concepts, a database listing and an interactive map, need to be looked at in combination.

Still, it's a work in progress, and sure to resolve these issues. So well done.

O.P.

Thank you for all the comments above. I'll try to address them as best as I can.

Incorrect Data: Just wanted to make an initial note � the data on the site will improve over time. I've had to write many scripts to collate and combine data from multiple sources and sometimes... incorrect data gets overwritten. Please report any incorrect data so I can fix things up.

Greenfields: Data is coming soon! Just need to figure out a nice way to present them all.

Guab writes...

I am on 4GDN-08. You have it listed as 'Ready for Service', but the NBN doco, has it not 'Ready for Service' until Feb-2014.

It also appears that constructing brownfields with active greenfields may have inaccurate data. I'll try and fix those up soon.

revolvingfire writes...

after searching my area 3smr-05, i noticed that the bar which says "Construction" is almost completed.

From the data provided by NBN Co, your FSAM will begin service on the 20th Jul 2013.

dedalus writes...

if it's an upgrade of the other NBNCo wikidot.com it's strange that it lacks a proper search facility. Typing eg Picton, NSW doesn't find a match, whereas the wikidot.com page does.

Yes, it is a rather annoying side of the site at the moment as it's unable to search cross-tables. Everything was written from the ground up and self managed � which makes the data and layout much easier to maintain in the long run. Once I get the greenfields data going, I should be able to tweak the database to search everything.

I know ads are not the best things in the world. But they keep the project running in the long run.

The other thing about the new version is that with the search box, what do you type in?

Since searching any of those will still return the same results, it's not a big deal. However, I do think giving advise in an event of an "incorrect" search is important. I'll include acceptable formats in the "no results" message in the next revision of the site.

I think both concepts, a database listing and an interactive map, need to be looked at in combination.

The thing I found with the maps is that it is insanely slow. The computers I have access to on a regular basis aren't particular fast � so the NBN Co map simply lags.

O.P.

I have just added basic Greenfield data support.

However:

Approx. 100 records of 1200 do not have completion/commencement data
all greenfields that were completed before Nov 2012 are still missing.

I'm trying to source some excel spreadsheets for Monthly Greenfields Rollout predating 2012 Nov � but am currently out of luck. I'll try to look for more sources of data later.

Search is also slightly improved, now able to search all greenfield records as well as FSAM records.

Great job!

Just one question, my FSAM (2RCH-04) indicates it is in "testing and activation" stage. What source are you using for that, or is it just assumed as the given RFS date is next month?

O.P.

"Punter" writes...

Just one question, my FSAM (2RCH-04) indicates it is in "testing and activation" stage. What source are you using for that, or is it just assumed as the given RFS date is next month?

It is assumed. As stated in the page before:

first four months: detailed design
last month: testing and activation
everything else: construction

And just an update on general things:

only 14/1352 known GF records have unknown statuses
197 greenfield estates pre-dating Nov 2012 are missing. They will be added soon, however, many statistical information will be missing.
FSAM rollout status is updated nightly based on data from the NBN map
Greenfields rollout status is updated every Thursday (requires manual intervention at the moment)

Things to come soon:

1y and 3y rollout data
Wireless statuses is coming soon.

O.P.

197 greenfield estates pre-dating Nov 2012 are missing

And I just added 150 more pre Nov-2012 records onto the database. ~50 still remain.

I've also added the ability to add greenfields estates are "My Fibre Regions". So, tracking greenfields is now much easier as well :D

O.P.

Hi all,

A late night note that the data has been updated to reflect new early release FSAMs and Greenfields.

This is a great site � NBN Co should buy it off you (or pay you to do it)!

One thing I've noticed though is that the links to some of the POIs doesn't work � for example, the link to the Sydney Interim Agg from the Armidale FSAMs: http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/poi/2ULT � just returns a 404

This is a great site � NBN Co should buy it off you (or pay you to do it)!

Pay you for your services :) What a great example of people using public-released data to benefit others in the community.

One query � the progress bars that you use to illustrate, well, progress; how is the underlying data sourced to build them? That is, are they just a graphical representation of the date range & the current date in that range of NBNCo's rollout data? Or are they based on data reporting from NBNCo as to the progress in each area/region.

Thank-you :)

O.P.

Thank you :)

Oh yes, looks like I left the Interim POIs off as they don't appear in the POI rollout plan. I'll manually add them as soon as I can.

h0mer writes...

Pay you for your services :) What a great example of people using public-released data to benefit others in the community.

Yes, it's a big effort to collate all the data from so many sources � so some of the data may not be 100% accurate. And data files such as the website CSV sometimes have conflicting data, which is quite a hassle. But constant tweaking and reports of incorrect data will hopefully fix this.

h0mer writes...

how is the underlying data sourced to build them?

I wondered the same thing ..

One question, how do you estimate the progress? Is it just a calculation from time commenced to time expected?

Yup :) Here is how it's estimated:

first four months: detailed design
last month: testing and activation
everything else: construction

O.P.

I wondered the same thing ..

Whoops... I forgot to answer the question! Thanks jayphi :)

O.P.

Oh yes, looks like I left the Interim POIs off as they don't appear in the POI rollout plan. I'll manually add them as soon as I can.

I just added the following Interim POIs ... anyone know of others?

{ poi: "2ULT", poiName: "Sydney Interim Agg" }
{ poi: "3WME", poiName: "Melbourne Interim Agg" }
{ poi: "4FOR", poiName: "Brisbane Interim Agg" }
{ poi: "6PER", poiName: "Perth Interim Agg" }
{ poi: "5ADE", poiName: "Adelaide Interim Agg" }

I wondered the same thing ..
Thank-you for that :)

Yes, it's a big effort ...
What about a 'donate' button on there? Much appreciated.

Just a note.. I tried to access this site at work and it appears blocked by McAfee Web Gateway 7..

Your requested URL has been blocked by the URL Filter database module of McAfee Web Gateway. The URL is listed in categories that are not allowed by your administrator at this time.

URL: http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/7HOB-01
URL Categories: Malicious Sites
Reputation: Medium Risk

We source our URL blocklist from McAfee themselves so I suspect you are on "their" list. Note that only the mynbn subdomain is blocked � jxeeno.com is fine. Not sure if it is something you as the site owner want to take up with McAfee support?

PM if you want more info!

O.P.

h0mer writes...

What about a 'donate' button on there? Much appreciated.

Just added! So, donations much appreciated! :D

Chuq writes...

PM if you want more info!

Thanks :D

Weird. My area is 2KIA-03 and it says "Testing and Activation"
Suppose to be ready for service next month, yet they haven't been digging any trenches in my street. Stuffing around in the pits a couple of times over the last few months, but that's it.

Slunk writes...

Weird. My area is 2KIA-03 and it says "Testing and Activation"

the status is triggered by the time remaining until the estimated activation date, nothing more than that.

Like the page. Gonna keep an eye on this one

lol just got a shoutout in senate estimates

Well done JX!!

O.P.

Wow! Totally was NOT expecting that!

what was the context?

O.P.

Valen00 writes...

what was the context?

Talking about transparency of NBN Co. and referring to Publicly Available data for the rollout.

Slunk writes...

yet they haven't been digging any trenches in my street. Stuffing around in the pits a couple of times over the last few months, but that's it

They won't be digging many trenches at all, that is the whole point of renting access to the conduit, etc,

O.P.

Updated RSP and CSA data.

RSP vs' CSA List
Added: 3
Updated: 63
Skipped: 47

RSP Data List
Added: 1
Updated: 0
Skipped: 56

Wow! Totally was NOT expecting that!

congrats! Great work!

Your site is getting around now JX :)

Anthony Agius ?@decryption 5m

�Whirlpool user has created an NBN rollout tracker � see the FSAMs in your region and their progress� http://bit.ly/136YRIh Nifty.
Retweeted by Nick Ross � ABC Tech

Megalfar writes...

Your site is getting around now JX
Retweeted by Nick Ross � ABC Tech
Nice work with that :)

I could be missing something, but how do you work out which FSAM you live in?

Edit: Don't worry, found the map at the bottom, cheers!

can find my town but I can't find my suburb, any idea's? looking for Bourklands in Wagga Wagga :)

reece86 writes...

can find my town but I can't find my suburb, any idea's? looking for Bourklands in Wagga Wagga :)

It's there:

Bourkelands NSW 2650
Area information

This is the NBN rollout activity in your area.

Fibre | Construction to commence within three years � we will commence construction in your area from Jun 2014*.

It is estimated that the average time from construction beginning to NBN services being available is 12 months.

just found it, bloody hell, last time it was june 2013

reece86 writes...

just found it, bloody hell, last time it was june 2013

Yeah it happens unfortunately, the nature of big builds is that initial tables will slip (BT rollout, New Zealand rollout are good examples) :(

At least your area is still on the list, I'm still waiting, as well as others are waiting.

Updated RSP and CSA data.

Unfortunately you just missed the update (around 53 RSP entries got added about an hour ago).

O.P.

Unfortunately you just missed the update (around 53 RSP entries got added about an hour ago).

Thanks Michael! RSPs are updated nightly now. However, I just manually ran the script and updated 48 CSAs and added NBNSP.

Loading data from NBNCO
Loaded!
Updated CSA CSA200000010092 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000010199 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000092 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000151 to DB
 ++++++++ Added CSA CSA200000010153 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000167 to DB
Updated CSA CSA900000000247 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000001053 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000366 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000503 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000662 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000010685 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000233 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000010752 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000770 to DB
Updated CSA CSA200000000850 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000010042 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000000809 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000010180 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000000232 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000000316 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000011055 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000001012 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000000862 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000000923 to DB
Updated CSA CSA300000000928 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010028 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000011056 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010133 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000000134 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010297 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000000359 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010440 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000011009 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000000873_Wireless to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000000873 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000000875 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000000948 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010359 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010875 to DB
Updated CSA CSA400000010873 to DB
Updated CSA CSA500000000831 to DB
 ++++++++ Added CSA CSA500000000721 to DB
Updated CSA CSA500000010831 to DB
 ++++++++ Added CSA CSA600000011061 to DB
Updated CSA CSA600000010613 to DB
Updated CSA CSA700000000406 to DB
Updated CSA CSA700000000822 to DB
Updated CSA CSA800000000257 to DB
Updated CSA CSA900000010247 to DB
Updated CSA CSA800000000257_Wireless to DB
Added: 3
Updated: 48
Skipped: 65
 ++++++++ Added RSPs NBN SP to DB
Added: 1
Updated: 0
Skipped: 57

O.P.

Megalfar writes...

Your site is getting around now JX :)

Anthony Agius ?@decryption 5m

�Whirlpool user has created an NBN rollout tracker � see the FSAMs in your region and their progress� http://bit.ly/136YRIh Nifty.
Retweeted by Nick Ross � ABC Tech

Wow! I never expected this site to get so much attention!

O.P.

Just updated the website with the following features:

Greenfield Estate List
POI List
Interactive/Static map toggle (with memory!)

Amazing Site, Bookmarked!

:-)

You should get at least some return on your efforts JXeeno. Chuck a google ad in the corner?

O.P.

dJOS writes...

Amazing Site, Bookmarked!

:-)

Thanks :)

"Punter" writes...

You should get at least some return on your efforts JXeeno. Chuck a google ad in the corner?

Yep, I've placed ads on the bottom right under the my region tracker to hopefully get some return. Search also has a leaderboard to the right, as it's the most resource intensive of all of the operations.

This is very cool.

Congratulations.

You may want to mention somewhere that the nbnco map is hazy in the edge boundaries. I am right on the edge of one of the purple areas and when I search on my address it comes up as not available. However if I move the pointer into the area and then click on my property is becomes available.

I have checked with iiNet and they have confirmed availabiility. Whew.

O.P.

Just here. writes...

I am right on the edge of one of the purple areas and when I search on my address it comes up as not available. However if I move the pointer into the area and then click on my property is becomes available.

Hi there. The maps displayed on my website is simply embedded from the NBN Co. website � so I am not responsible for the accuracy. The other data presented on the page is under my responsibility and is something I can look into fixing.

The map is only an indication of an approximate rollout region � and you should always check with your RSP for service. There are many premises within the rollout regions that can not be connected such as some MDUs.

O.P.

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Just synced the NBN Co. mapping data to the database:

New Active Brownfields

2ARM-06 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/2ARM-06
2BLK-01 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/2BLK-01
2CFS-03 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/2CFS-03
2GOS-01 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/2GOS-01
3BRU-03 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/3BRU-03
7HOB-04 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/7HOB-04
8DRW-01 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/8DRW-01
9CRC-02 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/9CRC-02
9CRC-04 � http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/9CRC-04

New Active Greenfields

AYCA-FYUIS (Stage 2.4 & 2.5)
AYCA-FYVEB (Stage 1A)
AYCA-FYVHK (Stage 3)
AYCA-FYVI8 (Stage 17)
AYCA-FYVZ9 (Stage 14A2)
AYCA-FYWVM (Stage 3)
AYCA-FYXD9 (Stage 1)
AYCA-FYXD9 (Stage 2)
AYCA-FYXLO (Stage 2)
AYCA-FYXLO (Stage 3)
AYCA-FYXLO (Stage 4)
AYCA-FYY6V (Stage 51b)
AYCA-FYY6V (Stage 51a)
AYCA-FYYDZ (Stage 1)
AYCA-FYYKA (Stage 2A)
AYCA-FYYKG (Stage 13)
AYCA-FYZ98 (Stage 1)
AYCA-FYZAX (Stage 3B)
AYCA-FYZKL (Stage 7)
AYCA-FYZKL (Stage 4)
AYCA-FYZKL (Stage 9)
AYCA-FZ05M (Stage 1)
AYCA-FZ05M (Stage 2A)
AYCA-G7OPQ (Stage 1)
AYCA-G9CJK (Stage 1)
AYCA-GMBPD (Stage Endeavour 6F2)

Thanks for your good work on this. Very handy.

New Active Brownfields

Hmmm...all those links 404'd :(

Can i ask JXeeno is this new info inlight of the early access changed just passed by ACCC.

O.P.

Thanks Luke!

scarytas writes...

Hmmm...all those links 404'd :(

Ah, sorry about those links. I forgot the add the fsam/ path to the URL generator. I've added them now.

foldking86 writes...

Can i ask JXeeno is this new info inlight of the early access changed just passed by ACCC.

This is data retrieved straight from the NBN Co rollout maps and pushed onto my databases. It could be due to the ACCC Early Access changes � but I'm not too sure.

Also, just a general note that existing "early access" tags may not be removed because the NBN Co maps still separate the FSAMs. Once that's updated (hopefully, it will be), it'll automatically fix itself on myNBN.

It could be due to the ACCC Early Access changes � but I'm not too sure.

Id say it would be.

Dam i can see it now, "NBN change the rules as they go to inflate the numbers".

O.P.

foldking86 writes...

Id say it would be.

See this thread for more info on the Early Access.

O.P.

I made two late-night updates to minimize disruptions.

1 year rollout plan: just uploaded the April-released 1 year rollout plan onto the database. You can now see expected number of FSAMs, expected locality and the approx premises count.
Improved completion dates: completion dates are now more precise (to the date for near RFS sites) and include already activated premises (so you can see when they were active from).

To-do list:

Search for 1 year rollout

I made two late-night updates to minimize disruptions.

Fine job you've done there. Well done :)

Remediation (Telstra) and Build

What does this mean?

O.P.

ksystem writes...

Remediation (Telstra) and Build

Remediation = fixing/clearing of ducts. This is performed by Telstra before the actual rollout of fibre.
Build = the actual fibre rollout conducted by NBN Co. contractors.

i see alot of contracters though no telstra doing this.

ksystem writes...

i see alot of contracters though no telstra doing this.

Contractors on behalf of Telstra.

Telstra systematically fired most of their work force when they gave up on caring and have no one left. Well the bare minimum maybe, but that's how private business cuts cost.

This question is probably better suited elsewhere but could possibly be covered in the FAQ section on your site so I will ask here. What is the difference between a brownfield and a greenfield?

Thanks for developing this website. It really is an invaluable resource! I am certainly super impressed.

O.P.

Hero Kid writes...

What is the difference between a brownfield and a greenfield?

I should have included more information about the NBN terminology in the FAQ. I will do so once I have time.

Greenfields: new developments/estates where no copper infrastructure will installed. Only the development will have access to the NBN.
Brownfields: rollout of fibre to existing premises � replacing the copper network already installed. This covers a much larger area and follow an approx 12 month rollout timeframe from the commencement of construction.

O.P.

Thanks to a couple of kind individuals' donations � I've been able to purchase a domain dedicated for the mynbn site � http://www.mynbn.info

I've just migrated it over � setting redirects from the old URL to the new one.

I've also integrated CloudFlare in an effort to deliver static assets quicker and reduce load times.

Thanks to a couple of kind individuals' donations � I've been able to purchase a domain dedicated for the mynbn site � http://www.mynbn.info

Nice work to all! :-)

I've also integrated CloudFlare in an effort to deliver static assets quicker and reduce load times.

Smart move, should save you a bit on hosting as well.

I will do so once I have time.

Thanks for the information! Makes sense now. :)

Hey JXeeno,

Awesome work. Love your site !!

Come September you'll probably have a lot less work to do & update once the Noalition & Turdball get hold of the NBN and destroy it. Yeah team !!!!

O.P.

Smart move, should save you a bit on hosting as well.

Yes, hopefully that will be the case. Although, I'm not paying for "hosting" as of such � rather, I pay for access to a service. So regardless of traffic, I pay the same fixed amount.

Wok68 writes...

Awesome work. Love your site !!

Thank you!

Come September you'll probably have a lot less work to do & update once the Noalition & Turdball get hold of the NBN and destroy it. Yeah team !!!!

Yeah, while I don't believe that the Coalition will simply tear the contracts already signed (all sites with "Construction Commenced" have contracted signed already) � I also hope that their FTTN rollout will be just as systematic and "open" as NBN Co's rollout has been (in terms of rollout data).

I also hope that their FTTN rollout will be just as systematic and "open" as NBN Co's rollout has been (in terms of rollout data).

The oppositions FTTN is/will be a dog's breakfast, guaranteed. They have no idea what we as Australians need & want in regards to the future. We will be looking back in 20 years time at this shambles & say WTF where they smoking to come up with this idea.

Apologies if this is the wrong place to ask the question, but given the data your excellent website is capturing, I thought you may be able to answer.

Does anyone know what the approx average time NBNCo is taking in greenfields estates to progress from 'Construction commenced' until 'Service Active' now?

The reason I ask is I am about to put in an offer on a block in a greenfields estate which is on NBNCo's list of greenfield developments, but NBNCo do not yet have a date for Construction Commenced. I am thinking of my offer for the block to have a clause of 'Settlement to not take place until NBNCo lists the stage as Construction Commenced'. I am guessing from a couple of anecdotal examples I know of that it is taking approx 6 months in a greenfields from construction commenced to service active � if so, that would be a reasonable timeframe for me to build my house.
As I work from home, and getting NBN fibre is the sole reason I am looking at selling and building again, I cannot afford to end up living in a new house with no NBN fibre available (as some within this estate are right now).

O.P.

Muz writes...

Does anyone know what the approx average time NBNCo is taking in greenfields estates to progress from 'Construction commenced' until 'Service Active' now?

This is from the senate estimates and gives an approx timeline: http://mynbn.info/assets/img/greenfields-projection.png

This is from the senate estimates

Champion. Thanks for the info (and the website!)

This is from the senate estimates and gives an approx timeline: http://mynbn.info/assets/img/greenfields-projection.png

At the moment, greenfields have 'Remediation (Telstra) and Build' when they're in construction. Might be more accurate to change it to fit this profile better and call it 'Design and Build'

O.P.

At the moment, greenfields have 'Remediation (Telstra) and Build' when they're in construction. Might be more accurate to change it to fit this profile better and call it 'Design and Build'

Yes, I'll go and change those on my next update.

O.P.

At the moment, greenfields have 'Remediation (Telstra) and Build' when they're in construction. Might be more accurate to change it to fit this profile better and call it 'Design and Build'

I just pushed an update that now provides a more accurate time line for Greenfields rollout. See the FAQ for more info about my implementation.

Also, I added a list of terms onto the FAQ page. Let me know you think there are ones I missed.

Wireless statuses is coming soon.

Hi JXeeno,

Firstly thanks for creating a very helpful website :)

I know you are probably flat out but would you roughly know when wireless status might be included, thank you

O.P.

gumble writes...

would you roughly know when wireless status might be included

I would say within the next week or so, initial data (being data from RFS plans since Nov 2012) will be uploaded onto the server. That being said, it will take over 2 weeks (or more) to collate all of the data of the wireless rollout (i.e. the sites that are already active).

I also intend on aggregating data for the tower locations too.

Thats fantastic, thank you :)

O.P.

Thanks to Karlston and Michael over on my other thread /forum-replies.cfm?t=2111392 for locating old RFS plans. Here is what I was able to do with the data:

added another 60 RFS greenfields records (my script still says there's still 108+ records not found � but that could be because of some regex matching error)
updated 90% of the Brownfields FSAM data to include premises count (yaaay!) � only 11 remain unfilled

2ARM-01,-02,-03
3BRU-01
4GUL-01
5ADL-01
7SCL-01
7SMO-01
7SOR-02
7TRA-01
9CRC-06

With the premises count data, I could possibly create a stats page to show an approx number premises ready for service currently.

And not to forget, wireless. Initial data has been uploaded and now, thanks to Karlston and Michael's data � I have more data to work with. Expect a WSAM list to appear some time next week.

With the premises count data, I could possibly create a stats page to show an approx number premises ready for service currently.

Awesome. Great work

I could possibly create a stats page to show an approx number premises ready for service currently.

Excellent, we have been missing that since NBNco censored DevotedNBN's stats page (it used the historical footprint list which had an exact result).

You can probably ballpark the figures from the NBN quarterly reports. Back at the start of 2012 basically nothing would have been connected and if memory serves the reports include breakdowns per area (tasmania, armidale, brunswick).

Great website. :)

O.P.

I tried looking for the figures but it was too hard. I resulted to some estimation as well as data from http://www.crn.com.au/Tools/Print.aspx?CIID=345354 (probably from older RFS reports) to fill in the data. Now 100% of brownfields FSAMs on my DB are filled � my database is reporting 112,700 brownfields are RFS (it assumes all early access sites are entirely activated).

Can anyone point me to a thread where an accurate NBN Co can be found for me to compare?

Aussie Bob writes...

Great website. :)

Thanks :D

http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/csv/service_class_zero_addresses.csv

my database is reporting 112,700 brownfields are RFS

Sounds about right.

The simplest way to make it a bit more accurate is to negate these premises

That brings it to around ~85 which is bang on track with the information NBNco gave at senate estimates.

Its probably a few k up/down due to the EA rounding and the fact that fsams arent normally exactly 2500 premises for example.

O.P.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/csv/service_class_zero_addresses.csv

The simplest way to make it a bit more accurate is to negate these premises

Thanks Michael! I didn't realise that the premises passed figure excludes all class zeros :) I'll get some pretty graphs and stats page setup soon.

Excellent site, thank you very much.

Did you use the last RFS report before an area went live for the number of premises?

These premises numbers can sometimes change month to month. For example 2GOS-02 was at 2,800 for a long time and then changed to 2,000 in February RFS report.

Unless it was updated later somewhere else, 2,000 premises was the last figure I saw for 2GOS-02. Although 2,800 down to 2,000 was a larger than usual change which made me wonder whether it was an error in the February RFS report.

I didn't realise that the premises passed figure excludes all class zeros

Im only assuming that, it makes sense though (would be a bit sneaky to count them as service 0 would be close to half the rollout then). It does put the number in the right range as well as NBNco were talking 70-80k at last senate meeting.

http://www.highcharts.com/demo/column-drilldown

I'll get some pretty graphs and stats page setup soon.

A drilldown column or stacked column would be pretty cool (although google charts is a bit nicer to use).

O.P.

kasi writes...

Did you use the last RFS report before an area went live for the number of premises?

Whoops, it looks like the values have gone haywire during the last couple hours of integration. I've updated the premises count from the May RFS only and these are the updated values � this time with early access.

Breakdown � Disclaimer: values not verified.
N.B. first figure � all early access FSAM considered completely active.

Brownfields premises currently passed: 107700 
�
- Active Early Access: 21,407 of 41,600 active
- Inactive Early Access: 20,193 of 41,600 inactive
�
Brownfields � inactive EA = 107,700 � 20,193
                          = 87,507 <--- this seems accurate
�
- All Class Zero: 26,874
�
Brownfields � inactive EA � class zero = 107,700 � 20,193 � 26,874
                                       = 60,633
�
Brownfields commenced/active: 98,5350 <--- this seems accurate

O.P.

m only assuming that, it makes sense though (would be a bit sneaky to count them as service 0 would be close to half the rollout then).

I've always assumed that Passed != Able to connect � so I'd say the discrepancy between the values is more related to Early Access rather than Class Zero.

A drilldown column or stacked column would be pretty cool (although google charts is a bit nicer to use).

I'll give it a shot � since I have the data available, I might as well make it as useful as possible!

O.P.

Introducing:

Statistics! � a basic and preliminary version of statistics and graphs. Data integrity and accuracy is still being worked on, but it's a starting point.

a basic and preliminary version of statistics and graphs. Data integrity and accuracy is still being worked on, but it's a starting point.

Looks really good, you did a great job with the charts.

O.P.