is the AU server as slow as anything ATM for others? normally i am happy enough but last few days i can't even run youtube on it for the kids.
Yet if I check speed with the speed test on their site is maxes out my connection. If real life with youtube, abc iveiw or linux repos It really is slow
is the AU server as slow as anything ATM for others? normally i am happy enough but last few days i can't even run youtube on it for the kids.
If it is maybe it because households are trying to run youtube through it. OK, that was a bit sarcastic but seriously this is like a nuke from orbit approach when you likely only care about bittorrent traffic.
Mate I run everything through it, thats the service i pay for. I am not going to setup iptables for everything i want in and out of the VPN. Seriously your post neither helps or adds any further info to my question in regards to others current performance. For someone with your post count i would expect more from.
Mate I run everything through it, thats the service i pay for.
Here we go, I pay $40 per year I demand my max BB speed.
Seriously your post neither helps
I gave you helpful advise, if you don't like it then ignore it so we don't have this back & forth, raising my post count.
I'm happy to ignore it, your posts are a waste of time, hence the old quality vs quanity saying. Feedback from other PIA users would still be appreciated, have you seen any issues in the last few days?
I'm happy to ignore it,
That's twice now you haven't.
have you seen any issues in the last few days?
Glad you asked, I haven't but I only use it for torrents.
biggest problem I have with this service is the face it is based in ROMANIA
you never know what they will do with any private info and credit card data
or if it is safe!
so I wont be using this that is for sure
biggest problem I have with this service is the face it is based in ROMANIA
Where did you get that from?
Seems to be been sorted, today back to normal.
Special on http://goo.gl/D1XEz6 damn cheap
is the AU server as slow as anything ATM for others?
Yes I had noticed my speeds are slow
I find speeds are a lot faster on another VPN provider, but I pay quite a bit more for that one.
for clarification: that speed test was taken on one of their 2 torrent allowed gateways in Australia, of which they have 4 in total
Slow speeds come and go on PIA, make a complaint in this thread provided you have tried going into the advanced settings and tried different ports first.
I tried the vpn and it came up romania and that rang alarm bells for me
may be just me then still I get dubiouse about any cheap European vpn is it worth it
I tried the vpn and it came up romania and that rang alarm bells for me
You have the application set to automatic server selection.
In Windows or Mac, right click on the icon for PIA and select a location manually.
On android, tap on "Automatic Server Selection" to change it.
I tried the vpn and it came up romania and that rang alarm bells for me
They are a US company. You can pay by PayPal or, for the truly paranoid, bitcoin.
This rings alarm bells for me.
It would for me if they logged. At some point you have to trade off governance against paranoia. Some of the best privacy innovations and discoveries are developed in the US. RSG, PgP, tor, Schneier...
This rings alarm bells for me.
Quite a few VPN companies are US based, simply because there is no data retention law in the US and currently the US law is on their side, plus there are other benefits of doing business there (strong currency, stable political environment, stable justice system, etc).
The more serious players (eg private internet access) have stated they would move to another jurisdiction if US law become a problem for them.
VPNs based in Hong Kong, Seychelles, Romania and others are available, but instead of a written rule of law, you really don't know what other forms of monitoring are going on.
Especially in Hong Kong � remembering that it is no longer a sovereign nation.
For the ultra paranoid, you could setup 2 VPN routers within your home network, or use VPN with TOR or I2P or SSH, if you can handle the inevitable speed hit.
For simply downloading copyrighted content, that's just not worth it for the "home" downloader (ie using for own purposes, doing less than 500gb a month, not selling, etc).
Once we are getting to that level of paranoia though, I would argue that moving to a seedbox or moving toward legal streaming services (still using the VPN for geoblock avoidance) puts you in a far better position financially with the added advantage of more sleep at night.
Yes, all PIA servers will allow torrents, however, you are strongly advised to activate the SOCKS5 proxy that comes for free with PIA.
A couple of questions, just wondering, so when you say they are in Aus now, do you mean that there is now a Aus VPN gateway we can use? and should as opposed to say another in Europe or US?
Is it faster to use Aus gateway? but then we still get an Aus IP right?
When you suggest to use the proxy in utorrent, aren't we already covered by using a VPN? Or are you suggesting it as a backup in case the VPN drops? it'll still go via a proxy?
In which case wouldn't built-in the kill switch stop all traffic? or are you suggesting it as an option for those that don't use the PIA VPN client and are using something like OpenVPN instead?
Sorry to ask all these, it's just a little confusing i find. @_@
What are the US East Coast vpn speeds people are getting with PIA?
Please also mention if you're connecting via DD-WRT setup or just via idevice or laptop.
Also please specify your original home connection speed without VPN.
What are the US East Coast vpn speeds people are getting with PIA?
Please also mention if you're connecting via DD-WRT setup or just via idevice or laptop.
Also please specify your original home connection speed without VPN.
I'm connected via the PIA app on my laptop.
Speed test without VPN:
Download: 3.88 Mb/s
Upload: 0.82 Mb/s
Ping: 15ms
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4198080075
Speed test with VPN (Us East server):
Download: 3.61 Mb/s
Upload: 0.68 Mb/s
Ping: 255ms
http://www.speedtest.ne
What are the US East Coast vpn speeds people are getting with PIA?
Please also mention if you're connecting via DD-WRT setup or just via idevice or laptop.
Also please specify your original home connection speed without VPN.
PIA Client on laptop:
No VPN
Ping: 20ms
Down: 19.34Mb/s
Up: 5.14Mb/s
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4199078660
VPN to East Coast
Ping 266ms
Down: 12.64Mb/s
Up: 3.28Mb/s
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4199082107
Quite a few VPN companies are US based, simply because there is no data retention law in the US and currently the US law is on their side
Surely you are kidding?
The NSA doesnt need to worry about Laws
Well overall PIA is the best I've used so far across all the platforms I need it to perform well in.
However there is definitely some strangeness going on in Australia.
The speeds I'm quoting next are direct from my DD-WRT router so bear that in mind as the speeds people get via the Viscosity/OpenVPN app on their laptop will always be higher.
My base connection is NBN 25mbits.
Australia server (which is in Adelaide....?) via DD-WRT pulled 2.5mbits(250kbs) which is amazingly slow.
The US California which is further away pulled consistently about 5.5mbits (550kbs) and about 4mbits tested via PS4.
On my *laptop* however using Viscosity I'm able to hit about 23-25mbits (2.2-2.5meg a second) download to US Cali servers. So almost my full speed.
I'm wondering why the Australian server is so slow and why the DD-WRT connection is not able to hit at least about 10mbits.
I'm aware DD-WRT is always slower however on other VPN providers (Astrill and Vypr) specifically I'm able to hit about 9-10mbits on the router so I know it can be done.
I don't use either of them though due to privacy and they perform worse for PS4 Netflix for some reason.
Surely you are kidding?
The NSA doesnt need to worry about Laws
Seriously??? Neither does the ASD in Australia but last time I looked neither agency used their considerable and expensive resources for terrorist activities such as copyright infringement lol.
I'm wondering why the Australian server is so slow
Probably due to very high demand.
It wouldn't surprise me if PIA is the other unnamed VPN in this story (alongside torguard which were happy to report figures and even provide graphs /metrics)
I'm getting terrible speeds. My last measured non-VPN NBN speed was 86Mb/s http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4204990731
While connected to PIA:
0.57Mb/s using french server http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4204954138
0.49Mb/s using Australian server http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4204959886
0.52Mb/s using Hong Kong http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4204963929
These results were recorded while using UDP connection type and port forwarding enabled.
Default encryption settings (ie lowest).
Tried using TCP, no port forwading, different regions, different combinations of encryption settings and they all seem as bad as each other
Anyone got any idea what could be going wrong here, or should I just look elsewhere before my 7 days is up?
I'm getting terrible speeds
Doesn't PIA use some kind of compression though? Would that affect the Speedtest results?
Anyone got any idea what could be going wrong here, or should I just look elsewhere before my 7 days is up?
Have you tried using different ports to connect to the server?
On the desktop applications, under advanced settings, change the remote port from auto, and also try changing the local port (and also when you do, try opening up that port on your router because your router maybe blocking it)
When testing try us West coast or us Seattle or us Texas with udp as they seen to be fastest from Australia. (the Australian servers are having congestion issues at the moment)
Some people have had ridiculous success with that.
It would surprise me if another vpn worked perfectly.
If you are looking elsewhere, try Astrill. In my experience using 4G, they are by far and away the fastest of any vpn I've ever tried. Any servers with a gold star next to them = all complaints from copyright trolls to that data centre are trashed.
Doesn't PIA use some kind of compression though? Would that affect the Speedtest results?
Not sure? I don't recall reading anything about it, but it's possible.
Thanks for the suggestions jjcoolaus
and ffs, I had all my benchmarks linked and written up, only to close the browser tab
In summary, I tried 3 of the western US servers with UDP port 8080 and was getting around 1Mb/s (slight improvement from before)
Changed it to UDP port 53 with similar results
Then changed to TCP 443 and US Seattle server which resulted in 7.73Mb/s http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4205297040 (The only link i got to save). Which is quite a bit better than the rest, but still twice as slow as my old ADSL2 connection
Anyone else having similiar problems on NBN with TPG?
I've been using PIA SOCKS5 proxy for a week with Deluge on my Laptop and PC, and utorrent 2.2.1 on my NAS. As I understand this should be fine with blocking my IP ever being sent into the torrent swarm. As I understand it SOCKS5 doesn't encrypt any data though.
Am I better off running VPN and SOCKS5 as a backup? Am I fine with just SOCKS5 blocking my IP and not having any of my data Encrypted? Running the VPN I've tried heaps of different servers, finding Seattle quickest, still it's not as fast as SOCKS5.
Also I have a seedbox though whatbox.ca which I use to download most content. Same question about the VPN for this too. As far as I understand this is safer than using a torrent client. However my House Mate dislikes using the seedbox and prefers to use Deluge.
As I understand it SOCKS5 doesn't encrypt any data though.
Your torrent clients can thought.
Would you like to explain this further?
Also with seedbox and FTP, i know i can use SFTP but again slower speeds. To consolidate the question. Am I safe just using a SOCKS5 or/and FTP download through a seedbox.
Would you like to explain this further?
In Utorrent:
Options, preferences, BitTorrent, Forced Protocol Encryption, click on the question mark top right to get the info on the settings.
PIA has said if using a VPN in their view there is no need for SOCKS at all.
PIA has said if using a VPN in their view there is no need for SOCKS at all.
Correct. All VPN traffic is encrypted. The only reason I see is forcing all traffic for that application down the VPN, providing you have multiple default gateways with internet access (ie LAN and VPN tunnel in windows, with 'Use default gateway on remote network' enabled)
Should i have this running all the time on an Australian server?
I have my torrent client set up with proxy, Is that enough?
I found my online banking didn't like it if set to other country.
Anyone else having problems connecting today?
Haven't been able to connect even in Auto connect.
Anyone else having problems connecting today?
Seems ok from my connection (Optus 4G melbourne) i tried: Aus, US, France, Netherlands, Germany all connected ok.
Thanks, a restart seemed to fix it.
with the new meta data laws coming out sept 1 im looking at pia for my vpn solution , now im new to all this and want to make sure im secure come sept 1.
I use Vuze for all my legal torrent downloading do i need to configure vuze to PIA as well or just get PIA and it does the rest?
now be gentle im new to this.
cheers
I use Vuze for all my legal torrent downloading do i need to configure vuze to PIA as well or just get PIA and it does the rest?
You don't have to do anything with Vuze but there is an option to bind Vuze to the VPN just incase the VPN is not connected.
http://wiki.hidemy
thanks cams much appreciated..
i was so very much excited to try this out,especially since it was my first 'vpn' but so far i haven't been happy. the speeds are horrible!
optus 90 home bundle+premium speed pack
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4225463897.png
California
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4225470146.png
Texas
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4225473736.png
Netherlands
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4225478008.png
Sweden
ThisDisplayNameisTaken writes...
i was so very much excited to try this out,especially since it was my first 'vpn' but so far i haven't been happy. the speeds are horrible!
Go with smaller VPN companys.
They care about there customers more then the big VPN companys from my testing off over 30 VPN companys.
You can try this VPN https://www.safervpn.com/vpn-free-trial
ok so decided to finally try PIA well i cancelled after 1 hour
Without VPN http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4229977048
With PIA:
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4229972911 � connected to US Silicon Valley
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4229975562 � Connected to Australia
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4229979909 � CA Toronto
ExpressVPN
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4230025160 � Australia server
ok so decided to finally try PIA well i cancelled after 1 hour
ExpressVPN
wow been thinking of them, but have more the 2 devices...
wow been thinking of them, but have more the 2 devices.
ExpressVPN is pretty good in my testing.
But I use VPNarea full time now. They have 14 servers in Australia and they are the fastest vpn company I have tested. They use AES 256 and SHA256.
They have servers at "Servers Australia" and they servers in the new data centres Softlayer in Sydney and Melbourne aswell as Choopa LLC.
And they have 1.3 people per server.
I read that they claim p2p is illegall in Aust
I read that they claim p2p is illegall in Aust
I checked the website and I cannot find where they say p2p is illegal in Australia?
Did you check there FAQs? http://vpnarea.com/front/faq
Can I download torrents?
Yes, you can on specific servers. However copyright infringement activities are forbidden.
Can I download torrents with VPN?
Of course, some servers allow torrents usage, so check out which does and connect to them. Please keep in mind we do not support copyright infringement activity, it is forbidden to use our services for illegal matters.
http://vpnarea.com/forum/?th
All Australian server(s) are p2p blocked by the firewall by the data centre(s)
PIA have now added 10 servers in Melbourne (to go along with the existing 10 in Adelaide) and they have added another 10 in Singapore.
Singapore should provide better performance for people in Perth (and maybe Darwin and Brisbane too)
PIA have now added 10 servers in Melbourne (to go along with the existing 10 in Adelaide) and they have added another 10 in Singapore.
speed tests any one..
Really impressed with the melbourne servers, will probably use this on my main desktop 24/7.
Telstra cable (sydney) no vpn:
http://www.speedtest.net/result/4237077955.png
Melbourne PIA:
http://www.speedtest.net
Really impressed with the melbourne servers, will probably use this on my main desktop 24/7.
really good
still tossing up between PIA and express vpn
PIA have now added 10 servers in Melbourne (to go along with the existing 10 in Adelaide) and they have added another 10 in Singapore.
What's nice! of them. Pitty they used Softlayer as the datacentre in Melbourne � they have the shit(est) peering ever. Choopa LLC has much better peering.
They dont even peer with local OpenDNS servers.
Setup myself with PIA tonight, so far it's been great! Couldn't be easier to setup etc.
Anyone using the SOCKS5 Proxy:
proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com port 1080
For their torrent client? How well is it running?
With the servers added to Melbourne ect is the whole point not to select somewhere in Australia?
or doesnt it matter as pia dont keep logs?
Speed test using pia Melbourne vpn http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4238704652
without vpn http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4238710844
With the servers added to Melbourne ect is the whole point not to select somewhere in Australia?
I think that as long as long as your IP doesn't match your own, it will do the same job of hiding your IP than a another countries servers IP, in addition, all the traffic is encrypted ( so I believe), so ISPs don't know what you're actually doing.
Don't quote me on that,however. :P
Anyone using the SOCKS5 Proxy:
proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com port 1080
Doesn't work very well at all. I'm not using the VPN � just the SOCKS5 proxy. uTorrent won't connect to any trackers while the proxy is enabled. If I disable the proxy it will find peers and will stay connected to them once the proxy is re-enabled but if they all disappear it won't find new ones.
Raymond Luxury-Yacht writes...
Doesn't work very well at all. I'm not using the VPN � just the SOCKS5 proxy. uTorrent won't connect to any trackers while the proxy is enabled. If I disable the proxy it will find peers and will stay connected to them once the proxy is re-enabled but if they all disappear it won't find new ones.
Hmmm that's odd, I set it up last night and then started a few torrents and they all worked fine, what version of uTorrent do you have?
Whatever the latest one is. I updated it when I couldn't get SOCKS5 working.
Raymond Luxury-Yacht writes...
Whatever the latest one is. I updated it when I couldn't get SOCKS5 working.
I have the same socks issue with bittorrent
Raymond Luxury-Yacht writes...
Doesn't work very well at all. I'm not using the VPN � just the SOCKS5 proxy. uTorrent won't connect to any trackers while the proxy is enabled. If I disable the proxy it will find peers and will stay connected to them once the proxy is re-enabled but if they all disappear it won't find new ones.
Its works fine on mine (PIA, Utorrent 2/3 including Deluge with SOCKS5), are you using the correct SOCKS5 username (starts with x) & password details? you have to generate these after logging into Private Internet Access.
https://www.privatein
are you using the correct SOCKS5 username (starts with x) & password details?
Yep. As I said, it connects to peers but just wont connect to trackers. I don't use any private ones so I thought perhaps the public trackers had banned the proxy's IP address.
If it's working for everyone else I'll have to do some more work on my PC. Not sure where to go from here though.
Raymond Luxury-Yacht writes...
If it's working for everyone else
It's not working for me, I have the same issue. I just use the full VPN, but it cacks up my Optus email sending (or, more specifically, Mrs_Gimlet's sending)
I pretty much did the same as this video except for a couple of differences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awlNmlu_epY
I didn't use uPnP and I ditched the Peerblock stuff.
I just use the full VPN,
I didn't want to use full VPN as I have no other use for it. You're not using XP are you? That's the only different thing about my PC.
I pretty much did the same as this video except for a couple of differences.
I've done everything that's in that video. (Probably the first time I've ever said that.)
Raymond Luxury-Yacht writes...
I'm not using the VPN � just the SOCKS5 proxy. uTorrent won't connect to any trackers while the proxy is enabled. If I disable the proxy it will find peers and will stay connected to them once the proxy is re-enabled but if they all disappear it won't find new ones.
That is a DNS lookup failure.
This is your ISPs fault as something is blocking private internet access's hostname from working. They maybe blocking it.
You have 2 choices here:
1) change the DNS at your router to use google DNS instead (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4). If you also have unmetered access to things like gaming sites or netflix at home, don't do it on the router just do it on the machine using bittorrent.
Here's a guide to setting google dns in windows:
https://developers.g
2) use an IP address instead. Click start, type cmd and press enter, then type nslookup proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com (and press enter)
A huge list of IPs will come up. The first one or two are the best ones to choose, but in reality for ADSL you could choose any from the list and be happy with it.
Manually inputting the IP address into utorrent's settings is a quick and easy fix, but it does have the disadvantage that should that IP ever go down, you will have to change it again.
That is a DNS lookup failure.
Not sure about that � the proxy works for peer traffic. When I enable the proxy after getting a collection of peers from the tracker, utorrent has no difficulty in talking through the proxy.
change the DNS at your router to use google DNS instead (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4).
I did have DNS for the PC set to use Google but I removed that as part of the troubleshooting process.
use an IP address instead
That's worth trying. Thanks for the suggestion.
Raymond Luxury-Yacht writes...
You're not using XP are you? That's the only different thing about my PC.
No, Windows 8.1 64 bit
Noob question...
I assume they have local VPN servers.
If I use them, will I be using their international links or will it still use my ISPs international link?
Currently my FTP download from my kimsufi is very slow (30KB/s)
LAst week its fine (600KB/s)
If I use them, will I be using their international links or will it still use my ISPs international link?
theirs
Getting a better ping to Melbourne with PIA than I do with my regular connection.
After registering to PIA, it looks good.
I was able to download more than 30KB/s. its constant at 700KB/s and peaks at 1.5MB/s
thinking of registering for a year
thinking of registering for a year
Wish I had tested it out somewhat before registering for a year. Could not keep a connection. while it worked it was great. but it kept dropping out. I've requested a refund for my service. I may have to seek a different ISP (Exetel... its been great, but if I can't keep a VPN connection, whats the good of it)
ould not keep a connection. while it worked it was great. but it kept dropping out.
Are you using Windows? Right click the little PIA icon in your task bar, click Settings, click Advanced, and where it says UDP � click on that and change it to TCP. Leave the remote port and local port options at auto.
Click Save. Then right click the icon and again and choose one of the Australian locations, or Singapore.
Try that.
ISPs can often drop UDP connections for multiple reasons (usually a firewall or proxy getting in the way thinking it's suss).
Whilst UDP is best for speed, TCP can be more reliable.
The difference is that TCP receives a bit of data, checks it's integrity, and sends an OK message back to the remote server (or asks it to try again). The remote server (like a website) waits and then sends the next packet (or resends the last one). UDP just makes a connection and the remote server doesn't care whether the data is right or wrong, it just sends the data through non stop.
The other consequences of a bad UDP connection are normal downloads (from http websites) failing, and video apps like youtube or netflix having blocky or breaking up pictures in the video.
For anyone else reading this, those same settings are accessed in the android app by the settings icon in the top right hand corner of the app.
Thanks, I've gone with refund instead.
SueW...
Thanks, I've gone with refund instead.
did you even try
Are you using Windows? Right click the little PIA icon in your task bar, click Settings, click Advanced, and where it says UDP � click on that and change it to TCP. Leave the remote port and local port options at auto.
did you even try
Are you using Windows? Right click the little PIA icon in your task bar, click Settings, click Advanced, and where it says UDP � click on that and change it to TCP. Leave the remote port and local port options at auto.
Answered in the other thread. Don't be pushy. When I say the refund has been approved and is being processed, I am quite serious, I no longer have access to an account, PIA or anything else. Now please just drop it.
Answered in the other thread. Don't be pushy. When I say the refund has been approved and is being processed, I am quite serious, I no longer have access to an account, PIA or anything else. Now please just drop it.
not being pushy, just wanting to know if the fix worked so that others can do it if theirs isnt as good...
its a legitimate question, but you went for the refund with out trying,
power to you...
Hi all,
I've noticed a few folks in this thread stating that they are having trouble with the SOCKS5 proxy.
I too have this issue.
My torrent client (utorrent) works fine with through the PIA VPN, but when I turn on SOCKS5 I am unable to connect
I am using the proxy proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com Port 1080 and have checked and double checked the user/pass that was generated at the PIA site.
uTorrent tells me that the Connection Status is "Not Connectable"
Any help would be appreciated.
its a legitimate question, but you went for the refund with out trying,
I had tried everything they suggested. I'm still saying it was nothing to do with PIA.
Any help would be appreciated.
Have you tried running nslookup on proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com and using an ip address?
Have you tried running nslookup on proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com and using an ip address?
Thanks � Not too tech savvy but a lookup gives me 46.166.188.251
Using this, I now have "No incoming connections". Starting up a new torrent, utorrent is unable to download the metadata... So, slightly better but still not working.
(assuming I understood what you meant)
Edit: Poking around the net, this seems to be a known issue with SOCKS5 and PIA.
However, if anyone has (specifically) PIA SOCKS5 working with uTorrent on a mac, I'd be interested to hear what your settings are...
uTorrent tells me that the Connection Status is "Not Connectable"
This doesn't stop you from downloading, it just stops you from connection to somebody else that is also not connectable.
I just run the setup guide test in utorrent, says I have a port forward issue then tried to actually download a torrent & within 2 minutes utorrent was connectable (port forward OK), go figure. Note: I have a manual port forward setup through my router & not random in Utorrent.
My torrent client (utorrent) works fine with through the PIA VPN, but when I turn on SOCKS5 I am unable to connect
This to me is saying you cant connect to anything eg: the trackers or peers & not that Utorrent is saying "not connectable" (eg a port forward issue)
I notice this morning that Australia locations have changed again.
It's now Australia � Sydney and Australia � Melbourne.
That doesn't surprise me, every other VPN who has used that same data centre in Adelaide has made it disappear (or frequently runs out of bandwidth, or both)
The Australia � Sydney location has also been boosted to 22 servers and i'm getting very good pings to it on Telstra this morning.
Just started using SOCKS proxy with utorrent.
Every now and then, torrents I add will not show or connect to any peers/seeds and if I check the tracker it will say connection timed out.
If I restart utorrent, then the tracker connects and I get peers/seeds.
Any idea whats going on?
Any idea whats going on?
Use to get that with the latest version of Utorrent 2.2.1, install the latest of 3.4.2 & all OK. You can make 3.4.2 ad free.
Any idea whats going on?
Try using one of the ip addresses instead.
Click the start (orb) button in the bottom left hand corner, type cmd and press enter, type nslookup proxy-nl.privateinternetaccess.com and press enter
You'll see a whole heap of ip addresses, take one of the first 5 (because this list is sorted by which server has the best speeds) and put into utorrent instead of the hostname.
As pointed out, this is fixed in later utorrent versions but there are all sorts of reasons why people don't want to upgrade.
I actually have the latest version of utorrent. But I'll try using the IP address and see how it goes.
Silly question, since PIA is owned and run in England, why are people satisfied with using it? England has a worse track record then AU when it comes to handing over details.
Silly question, since PIA is owned and run in England, why are people satisfied with using it? England has a worse track record then AU when it comes to handing over details.
First it is actually American. Second, what is there to hand over?
noob question. How do i know if i'm running PIA?
noob question. How do i know if i'm running PIA?
In windows in your tray there will be a little padlock. Red means not connected, green means connected
I changed my PIA server location from Japan to AU � Sydney, but when I went to check the speed via speedtest.net it shows the server location as Adelaide?
I also checked using ipleak.net and it shows Adelaide also, so there seems to be a problem with the list of server locations which are shown in PIA's server list??
Anyone else found this problem.
AU � Sydney, but when I went to check the speed via speedtest.net it shows the server location as Adelaide?
PIA seem to have moved their Adelaide service to Sydney sometime this week. Still with Choopla as provider. At least that is what ipleak.net now says.
Remember that services like ipleak.net use ip address registration databases which may not be completely accurate.
The one way to be sure about location is use traceroute (to almost anywhere) and see what it returns for the 3rd or 4th line � you are looking for the first hop away from PIA and whoever is hosting their servers.
For me using the AU Sydney service traceroute does show that my connections are going via Sydney.
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I am looking to sign upto a VPN service given the recent event with iinet.
Would you guys recommend PIA? Is there anything else I should consider?
Appreciate the advice.
I have PIA and it works OK. Mind you, I've got NBN so any VPN will kill off a large chunk of speed.
Things to consider:
*Privacy & location. How does the VPN treat your account & connection? Do they record logs & privide info out to others? TorrentFreak maintains a good list of VPNs who respect your privacy.
*Price � shop around, but you often do get what you pay for. Free =/= better.
*How will you use VPN on devices? Will you set up a router to connect to VPN for all devices, or connect to VPN on each device? If you're gonna do each device individually, have a look at the VPN's set-up guide. Some even have stand-alone apps (for phones & tablets) and/or programs for PCs that sort the connection for you. Another thing to be careful of is make sure they have a "kill switch", so that if the VPN goes down, your device won't be able to connect to the internet until it's fixed (or turned off). That way you don't get any leaks from that.
I am looking to sign upto a VPN service given the recent event with iinet.
Would you guys recommend PIA? Is there anything else I should consider?
Appreciate the advice.
I have been with them for about 3 years and haven't had any issues, most VPN's will give you a trial if you ask so you can try them out and choose. Out of all of them PIA had the best speed with an Australian server
I'm using only default values, Macbook with 16GB, latest OSX, DD-WRT on the router
is the VPN on the Mac or the router? My install seems to update itself and that's when new locations on the list appeared. You could probably reinstall which would force the update I suppose.
You could probably reinstall which would force the update I suppose.
I've only just installed PIA, so it's a essentially a new install (just did it last night.)
It's on the Mac itself, I didn't know it could be run on the router.
I have PIA and it works OK. Mind you, I've got NBN so any VPN will kill off a large chunk of speed.
thanks for the info.
When using a VPN service such as PIA, is connecting with the VPN client enough or would I also need to enter the PIA proxy details in the torrent client?
and does PIA have a kill switch?
When using a VPN service such as PIA, is connecting with the VPN client enough or would I also need to enter the PIA proxy details in the torrent client?
If you're planning on downloading when not having the VPN running, use the proxy details in the torrent client. If you're planning on having the VPN permanently connected, the VPN client is enough.
and does PIA have a kill switch?
Their own VPN client does (disabled by default). If you just configure an IPSec VPN in your OS then it won't.
I didn't know it could be run on the router.
It can with DD-WRT routers. Can't give any more pointers on the drodown list, mine just shows the two Aus servers on the list
Their own VPN client does (disabled by default). If you just configure an IPSec VPN in your OS then it won't.
thank you.
I am not familiar with VPN stuff. So to confirm, by IPSEC VPN do you mean using the native Windows VPN client?
Sp if use the PIA VPN client, I can use the kill switch. But if I use the Windows VPN client there is no kill switch option ?
Sp if use the PIA VPN client, I can use the kill switch. But if I use the Windows VPN client there is no kill switch option ?
Yep correct!
I am not familiar with VPN stuff. So to confirm, by IPSEC VPN do you mean using the native Windows VPN client?
That's correct.
Sp if use the PIA VPN client, I can use the kill switch. But if I use the Windows VPN client there is no kill switch option ?
Again, correct. If there is a kill switch option for Windows' built in VPN client, I'm not aware of it. It's also not that obvious if a Windows VPN disconnect, the PIA client will be more obvious.
From my understanding PIA operates from the US.
some people in WP say that its not safe to use VPN companies that are in the US because of the recent events with the NSA. Is this a valid concern ?
some people in WP say that its not safe to use VPN companies that are in the US because of the recent events with the NSA. Is this a valid concern ?
There's theoretically safeguards in place to stop the NSA spying on US citizens. In practise, not so much. Non-US citizens, and data outside the US is free game to the NSA. The Australian government has been demonstrated to pass data to the NSA at little more than a request � not even court order etc.
tl;dr, being a US company makes them no more or less safe from the NSA's spying. Theoretically more safe, but in practice not so much.
tl;dr, being a US company makes them no more or less safe from the NSA's spying. Theoretically more safe, but in practice not so much.
what about for torrenting? does it make a difference if the VPN company is based in US or outside US?
what about for torrenting? does it make a difference if the VPN company is based in US or outside US?
This is where I'm confused. I would have thought that seeing as directly suing downloaders has been a thing in the US for a number of years now, a US based VPN wouldn't be the best to go with. Apparently if they keep no logs then that negates it completely. Apparently US is one of the best places for a company to be based if they keep no logs, if you want to use them for such activities. I would have thought otherwise. It's an area I myself need to do more reading in to.
what about for torrenting? does it make a difference if the VPN company is based in US or outside US?
Its been stated heaps of time that they keep no logs & share IP's. Some people here seem to think that this policy can be changed immediately because NSA knock on the door. I doubt that this is correct & an company that advertises that it keeps no logs, shares IP's may very well decide to leave the country than take a hit that could send them broke.
That looks like it might be possible to just load the VPN details into uTorrent and leave unblockUS doing Netflix.
If I was to just go with the VPN would it be simple to run using uTorrent on an iMac and netflix and HBO GO on an ATV3?
Some people here seem to think that this policy can be changed immediately because NSA knock on the door.
This is a key reason why I'm not so sure about US companies being as safe as claimed. The NSA can apply a national security order in which case the company has to comply with any data demands and is not able to talk about it to anyone, arguably not even a lawyer. If all you're doing is torrenting then this is of no concern because the NSA couldn't care less about such activity and aren't known to pass it on to content/media companies. If you're doing other questionable activity, you're probably better off running TOR as well or making sure your out node for the TOR connection is somewhere outside of the US.
NSA is national security. Surely they won't bother with civil stuff like pirating?
I signed up about an hour and a half ago.
In that time I've been emailed 9 different logins, none of which seem to work.
Anyone else had this happen?
or is it the SOCKS5 port 1080?
i suspect it will be the socks5 proxy port (try it, takes a couple of minutes to set it up) and let us know how it pans out. :)
Still, don't believe me, continue to use an Australian server for your unpaid downloads & we look forward to your screaming here on Whirlpool that PIA does not protect your identity when you receive your first infringement letter
sorry if I have missed it, then if this is a theory, what server do you recommend for downloading?
I set my connection to automatic for the first one to download as a test, and using that ip leak site to test, indicates I am using California,USA
(ps I got pretty much my normal download speed, getting a movie from a well known torrent site and having the vpn software set up on the mac overall, I couldn't be bothered with the utorrent only settings in the end)
how about their own vpn software ? would that be better to use than openvpn ?
OpenVPN is the encryption software that runs 'under the hood' of the PIA client.
I would use this software and modify the default settings to Encryption AES-128, Data Auth SHA256 and Handshake RSA-2048
So most people would not have a green tick while using this SOCKS5 setup then?
That's correct, it functions similar to a web proxy. People cant establish a connections back through a web proxy. Connections can only be initiated from your network to the outside.
Port forwarding allows a user outside to establish a connection in to your network.
Just signed up to PIA yesterday and playing around with the config but so far I'm finding I get near non-VPN speeds with the proxy and encryption vs very slow speeds with the VPN.
Which POP are you using? Speedtest from me to Sydney is ~92Mbps.
I'm mostly using Singapore and have no issues from what I have seen so far.
i suspect it will be the socks5 proxy port (try it, takes a couple of minutes to set it up) and let us know how it pans out. :)
Didn't work, still red... The main issue I have is I want to be able to connect to my PC via RealVNC on my Android while still having uTorrent running, whether that's with the VPN or the Proxy but I can't seem to get a desired outcome so far.
They simply know the server that received the download in Australia. The servers that are used by the various VPN providers are (generally) not owned or run by those VPN providers. They are run by independent operators, or by one of the big Telcos such as Telstra or Optus.
The server in Australia is likely to comply with the new data retention laws.
The movie studios know nothing about PIA. They don't contact PIA.
So the movie studios are still seeing a ip address that belongs to pia and a ip address that comes out of say Melbourne when I'm based in Adelaide. Isn't the idea that "telstra" or whoever is running the server can't tell what traffic was on the server because it's encrypted by pia? "telstra" shouldn't have the info to hand over to anyone, the movie studios would have to contact pia to find out what that traffic was, no? Given all of the above isn't the point of a VPN to make it more difficult for them to track what you are doing and make it not worthwhile to chase you down I would think that that is enough protection.
And I still don't see how it is different to connecting to say Netherlands or anywhere else in the world, if the movie studio can just contact the server operator and access the information to find out who you are, what is the point of the vpn? Surely there is encryption going on and the server operator has no idea what the traffic is, no?
The server in Australia is likely to comply with the new data retention laws.
They shouldn't have any info other than you are using a VPN?
The server in Australia knows the connection of the incoming IP address (your's) & the outgoing VPN tunnel that was generated as a result of your on-line requests.
Yeah, but it doesn't know what you did while connected. The movie studio would still need to contact pia for that information, information which should not exist. And even if it does, connecting to another server in the first instance wouldn't save you anyway.
Still, don't believe me, continue to use an Australian server for your unpaid downloads & we look forward to your screaming here on Whirlpool that PIA does not protect your identity when you receive your first infringement letter.
Overly aggressive, I'm just questioning the advice not to use a Australian server because it doesn't make any sense.
Let's say it goes the way you say, movie studio contact server operator in Melbourne (I'm in adelaide) because they see my fake ip while downloading, the server is run by telstras and they give the movie studio the information they want (which is debatable because all I have done is connect to a VPN which gives the movie studio no right to access that info, and 100s of other people if not thousands are using that same ip address worldwide) all the movie studio would have is confirmation that I connected to a VPN. Same as any other server in the world. At that point you are put in to the to hard basket or at least that is the plan of using a VPN. If they do proceed to try and track you down they would have to contact the vpn provider, a provider that supposedly keeps no logs.
That's correct, it functions similar to a web proxy. People cant establish a connections back through a web proxy. Connections can only be initiated from your network to the outside.
Port forwarding allows a user outside to establish a connection in to your network.
OK, well I'm able to max out my speed using just the Proxy, with and without Protocol Encryption disabled and Legacy connections still ticked (depending on the torrent).
Am I OK to still use my Android uTorrent remote app over 3G/4G? Since it is just a remote to my setup at home thats using the Socks5?
Am I OK to still use my Android uTorrent remote app over 3G/4G? Since it is just a remote to my setup at home thats using the Socks5?
Sure.
Just remember that anyone can port scan your ISP IP range and discover this port open. Using socks doesn't prevent this.
I use a router (ASUS) that supports OpenVPN and I can connect my iPhone directly to my network whilst on 4G for management activities. That way I don't open ports out to the net that other nefarious people may try to connect to.
OpenVPN is the encryption software that runs 'under the hood' of the PIA client.
I would use this software and modify the default settings to Encryption AES-128, Data Auth SHA256 and Handshake RSA-2048
so i am guessing you don't need to separately install openvpn in addition to the pia client?
but if you did install openvpn seperately and using it to connect to your pia service, what is the advantage of using it over the pia client and vise versa?
Sure.
Just remember that anyone can port scan your ISP IP range and discover this port open. Using socks doesn't prevent this.
I see, it's becoming clear to me that most choices in regards to increased security result in decreased convenience/usability, which is only logical I suppose.
So just to confirm...using just the SOCKS5 proxy and I will try leaving the Protocol Encryption set to Forced and the Legacy connection unticked for now. And having a specified port open for uTorrent so I can remote in from my Android should at least prevent copyright infringements notices (not that I've received one yet but in theory..)
I appreciate you answering all my questions as well.
Which POP are you using? Speedtest from me to Sydney is ~92Mbps.
I'm mostly using Singapore and have no issues from what I have seen so far.
Sydney also, but for some reason no good via VPN ... may be my settings, perhaps the port forwarding part. Prior to PIA, I had my Billion ports forwarded to the various uTorrent client PC's = full speed (all 529xx's) ... not sure exactly what to be setting the router and uTorrent client to use with PIA? From what I can gather, choosing a port forwardable POP would require the Billion to be changed each time their port changes?
So i got the PIA service just then and have about 80% of my normal speed of the local server. Anyway i did the ipleak.net test and now none of the ip numbers relate to my adsl connection, It says im on my isp correctly but no wan ip or dns match up. So is this how it's ment to be?
It says my dns is leaking but the numbers dont match..
Singapore I get 65 to 70%,
Sydney I get around 95%
Melbourne I get around 85%
Netherlands about 40 to 50%
Japan about the same funny enough
the rest aren't worth mentioning the U.S is very bad on my end
what is your usual speed without the VPN?
my usual speed is 18mbs without vpn. I did the speed test here https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/network/# and i get the following speeds :
sydney 17mbs
melbourne 17mbs
US - 7mbs
singapore - 6bps
japan 6mbps
hong kong 7mbps
UK 5mbps
russia - 6mbps
do you think the non-aus speeds are fine?
It says my dns is leaking but the numbers dont match..
Are you testing this in the Firefox browser? If so, fix the DNS leak by doing this:
Type about:config� in address bar. Scroll down to �media.peerconnection.enabled�, double click to set it to false.
You can also have leak prevention ticked in your PIA settings.
what is the advantage of using it over the pia client and vise versa?
The advantage of using the PIA software is that it installs additional functionality such as kill switch, dns leak protection and some IPv6 detections. This prevents traffic leaving your LAN if your VPN disconnects.
PIA client makes it easier for Joe Public to use a VPN and switch between their different servers.
OpenVPN software simply establishes a VPN connection. The above extra functionality would need to be done manually or using another method.
OpenVPN is good if you don't want PIA software installed I guess. People might prefer OpenVPN if they use several different VPN providers.
So just to confirm...using just the SOCKS5 proxy and I will try leaving the Protocol Encryption set to Forced and the Legacy connection unticked for now. And having a specified port open for uTorrent so I can remote in from my Android should at least prevent copyright infringements notices (not that I've received one yet but in theory..)
Yep that's the idea!
Check this forum note on how to ensure utorrent is configured correctly.
https://www.privat
Sydney also, but for some reason no good via VPN ... may be my settings, perhaps the port forwarding part. Prior to PIA, I had my Billion ports forwarded to the various uTorrent client PC's = full speed (all 529xx's) ... not sure exactly what to be setting the router and uTorrent client to use with PIA? From what I can gather, choosing a port forwardable POP would require the Billion to be changed each time their port changes?
That's correct, you only get allocated 1 port forward port per VPN established. You can view this via the PIA client.
Alternatively you can get it via a web call.
If you had multiple PC each establishing a VPN connection then you would get a port per session.
You could then configure your billion and each individual utorrent clients with their respective port forward.
And yes, you will get a new port each time you connect to VPN :)
I use something similar to configure my Synology with the port allocated when it connects.
$curl -d "user=$USERNAME&pass=$PASSWORD
OpenVPN is good if you don't want PIA software installed I guess. People might prefer OpenVPN if they use several different VPN providers.
Just to add another level of confusion for those who havent made their choice yet is that apparently the OpenVPN protocol as used by PIA is easily throttleable by ISP's choosing to do so. If you connect through a bastard isp as I do (Exetel), it might be worth considering a VPN provider who offers protocol options.
Just to add another level of confusion for those who havent made their choice yet is that apparently the OpenVPN protocol as used by PIA is easily throttleable by ISP's choosing to do so. If you connect through a bastard isp as I do (Exetel), it might be worth considering a VPN provider who offers protocol options.
What Ones do You Recommend with that then?
I am on IINET and I am worried what they could do as they been a Big Target in this Crackdown
OpenVPN protocol as used by PIA is easily throttleable by ISP's choosing to do so
Here is a fun read: https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/
I have bought PIA and installed its client. and ticked all options like killswitch , prevent dnsleak etc.
Now is there anyting else i need to do and or i can just use utorrent normally with VPN connection on.
I am confused if i need to do anything as mentioned here
For what purpose i need that
For what purpose i need that
The settings there are if you do not run VPN, instead wanting to use the SOCKS5 proxy.
If you use the SOCKS5 proxy you can limit it to utorrent only, whereas the VPN affects all traffic from the device (not just utorrent).
I am confused if i need to do anything as mentioned here
https://www.privateinterne
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I thought IF you just run the PIA Client that everything would be Encrypted you use over the internet � Is that Correct?
By your definition Simon wright is an ISP.
I think by HIS definition, Whirlpool IS an ISP, but an ISP needs a Telecommunication carrier's licence, which Whirlpool does not.
By your definition Simon wright is an ISP.
It isn't my definition ... it is THE definition.
This link I posted earlier will ensure this if you are interested : https://community.hide.me/tu
Using our VPN for additional security and total anonymity is great � but what about when the VPN-Connection drops or disconnects? Unfortunately, if you use Windows (any version), any running application (for example, BitTorrent, your browser) will revert and using your ISP connection, exposing your IP address and opening you up to security and privacy issues. This is of particular concern when using a VPN to secure a public wi-fi spot. Windows will not prevent traffic in the event of a disconnect.
the above is from the article. wouldn't it be easier to use the kill switch in the PIA client ? I thought that is what a kill switch is for? it stops all traffic if the VPN connection goes down?
the above is from the article. wouldn't it be easier to use the kill switch in the PIA client ?
Using the WIndows firewall seems to be more reliable, but each to your own. I prefer to continue using the internet for everything except what I specify (i.e. the BT client).
It isn't my definition ... it is THE definition.
But PIA is a 'Transitory Data company', not an ISP. You need an ISP to actually CONNECT to the internet, ADSL, Cable, Fibre etc).
It isn't my definition ... it is THE definition
Please refer to the poster above. Where is whirlpools telecoms licence?
Our seo guy provides a service that is on the internet, is he an ISP as well? Hell, technically when I answer peoples questions on here I am providing a service, on the internet, so I must be an ISP as well! Better get my metadata storage centre set up!
Fizbin is taking the name literally. i.e it provides a service on the internet. This, however, is incorrect.
When did Facebook become an ISP?
Well � Facebook doesn't operate servers in Australia (which PIA does), so Facebook won't be logging data (however your ISPs might log data about Facebook).
Fizbin is taking the name literally
Again � It isn't my definition, it is THE definition.
Anyway � fact is PIA is an ISP, and this discussion is really taking the thread off the rails. Enough on it ok.
Using the WIndows firewall seems to be more reliable, but each to your own. I prefer to continue using the internet for everything except what I specify (i.e. the BT client).
I am guessing your method will work only if you are using windows firewall in the first place?
would it still work if you have windows firewall disabled and using a different firewall software ?
I am guessing your method will work only if you are using windows firewall in the first place?
Yeah � it will also be of use if you use a different firewall (although instructions will be different). WIndows 7+ has it built in.
straight from the horses mouth.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au
8 Internet service providers
Basic definition
(1) For the purposes of this Schedule, if a person supplies, or proposes to supply, an internet carriage service to the public, the person is an internet service provider .
Just FYI, if Facebook is an ISP and VOIP providers are ISPs - then why on earth would you think a VPN is not ?
that's funny, late articles I read on various tech websites have said facebook ceo is looking at ways of becoming an isp to help connectivity to facebook but there are obstacles in his way yada yada ya
the way you worded that if i had a laptop on a phone line, facebook should have an account i can access to get on the net to access facebook, maybe limited but still able to get on the net which they do not. so they are not an isp.
VPN provider != ISP.
For your benefit:
Internet Service Provider
Now lets try quoting what I said in its entirety.
If not, they're not an ISP. You're redefining what an ISP is to make your incorrect argument work. VPN provider != ISP.
You can't just sign up to a VPN and get internet access. You still need an internet service for a VPN to work. Interenet services are provided by Internet Service Providers, or ISPs.
Well � Facebook doesn't operate servers in Australia (which PIA does), so Facebook won't be logging data (however your ISPs might log data about Facebook).
That wasn't what I asked. I asked when did Facebook become an ISP as you claimed in a previous post?
Again � It isn't my definition, it is THE definition.
Anyway � fact is PIA is an ISP, and this discussion is really taking the thread off the rails. Enough on it ok.
You started it, Okay your favourite game, WOW, Eve Online, Path of Exile ?, by your definition, they are ISP's right ?
Wrong, they are Virtual services. ISP's connect you to Physical equipment, (Modem, Telephone line etc) to the Internet. You are saying Whirlpool is an ISP as well ?. Foxtel is an ISP (in more ways that one now they offer ADSL2), PIA is a VIRTUAL service, it sends data from one place to another. Regardless of the DEFINITION, you are nit picking the legislation. ISP's are REQUIRED to have a Carriers licence, a Virtual service does not. Whirlpool does not need a Carriers licence, Nor does PIA.
From the Law archives......... (As posted above).
"internet carriage service" means a listed carriage service that enables end-users to access the internet.
A service that enables end users to ACCESS the internet. You can access the internet without PIA, but you *NEED* IINET, Bigpond, Optus etc to ACCESS the internet. PIA merely provides a service *ON* the internet.
Dont back out now you lost the argument, PIA is not an ISP (internet service provider, or Internet carriage service).
can some pia users confirm what kind of torrent speeds you are getting when not using australian servers?
Connecting to the PIA London server(s) I am getting about 2.2Mbps downstream. Oddly though I get about 4.4Mbps through their UK Southampton node. The latter speed is adequate to watch BBC iPlayer without buffering (just).
My normal speed (not going through a VPN) is about 18Mpbs
All measurements using speedtest.net . If my kids are hammering our connection those speeds all come down!
If you just want to watch geoblocked streaming content Getflix looks like a good solution, although I haven't tried it myself.
I would be keen to hear what others are getting through PIA and other VPN services.
is pia worth giving a go for one month, really don,t know where to start and which vpn to try
is pia worth giving a go for one month
I signed up for a year, not regretting it so far. Lots of choice for end points.
I think CyberGhost had an option to change computer timezones. Does PIA have this? E.g. if I go to http://whoer.net/ the 'local' timezone is different to the Australian timezone that shows up.
Is there any way to increase the number of connections and speed via torrents?
I've a 9Mb DSL connection and would get 800k download speeds. Using PIA I'm getting 20k/45k connections.
I'm also only connecting to 1 or 2 seeds.When I turn the VPN off the peer connection increases dramatically.
Seems to do pretty well (3/4 my max speed) at times and other times down to 1/4. Torrenting that is (on private tracker which generally has fullspeed without VPN.....).Only tested US West and Seattle servers..
Is there any way to increase the number of connections and speed via torrents?
I've a 9Mb DSL connection and would get 800k download speeds. Using PIA I'm getting 20k/45k connections.
I'm also only connecting to 1 or 2 peers.When I turn the VPN off the peer connection increases dramatically.
Yeah, Torrent speeds are greatly reduced I see. Not getting anywhere near the same speed, with VPN disconnected.
I've just swapped to US California and intermittently getting 500kB/s speeds.
But only in short bursts. Then it dropped down to 0. And then builds back up.
I'm connected to US california right now, getting 800 Kb/s on a well seeded torrent.
I initially tried the Singapore gateway earlier tonight and met download speeds of ~100KB/s. Switched to the Netherlands gateway and within minutes the torrent was coming down at 600KB/s.
I'm not sure I've got the settings for uTorrent quite right, but I'm very impressed so far with PIA.
Goran 'Dragon' Dragic writes...
I'm connected to US california right now, getting 800 Kb/s on a well seeded torrent.
Hmm. I'm connected to a torrent of over 50,000 seeds, 5 are connecting and the thing has dropped to less than 1kb......
Use the Australian servers
use Sydney or Melbourne do a test or two see which one is best Sydney has better peering imo
then use socks 5 proxy from Netherlands that they recommend
If you use decent torrent sites you will get great download speeds still not as good without vpn but close too it due to seedboxes being around the same regions.
If you download from public areas which is pretty dangerous then best of luck really suffer the slow speeds or come on here scared your ip will be with the next news article of copywrite groups chasing people if you elect to disconnect the vpn or don't download at all.
Probably nothing to do with it, but if it helps I'm using qbittorrent, set to use the vpn connection only in settings � > advanced.
Why?
Note that Choopa is not registered by the tax office in Australia:
The Australian Sydney servers are hosted at Vultr which is owned by Choopa LLC. The Melbourne servers are IBM Softlayer.
Anyone that is getting slow speeds - should reconnect and disconnect many times into your on a different cluster.
In finding speeds quite good.
Currently downloading 400kb/s on Usenet (speed limited by me) and 300kb/s on poorly seeded torrents.
Connected to Sydney.
Anyone that is getting slow speeds � should reconnect and disconnect many times into your on a different cluster.
I've been trying this and still find the overall speeds to be fluctuating quite a fair bit and quite dependent on peaking times. Not really sure what could be done about all of this, just a learning curve for me to find the sweet spot.
Currently using NBN � 50/20 plan, my speeds can range from 5mbps to 45mbps, all in Melbourne.
What happens when you only have a single device and you're using a VPN to torrent something?
You pretty much can't do anything until it's done because logging into forums, social media, games etc might give away your details, right?
You pretty much can't do anything until it's done because logging into forums, social media, games etc might give away your details, right?
No, not really. All that reveals is that this IP logged into this site at this time. PIA uses shared IPs and that bloke downloading game of thrones could have been anyone out of hundreds, or even thousands, of people with that same address.
It would be a lot of work for an investigator to get a warrant for say whirlpool to reveal all the people logged into whirlpool with that particular IP this morning and for the police to go to THAT much trouble, you'd have to be a very serious pirater doing many terabytes per month.
However if that's something you are worried about:
Got an old android phone or tablet laying around? Use it as a exclusive torrent device, then use ES file explorer to transfer the file back to your computer (share a windows folder) or a USB hard drive connected to your router (either FTP or a "NAS" type service will need to be enabled in the router but it's pretty easy) or you can use an adaptor to transfer direct to a USB stick.
There are many different ways to do it.
What happens when you only have a single device and you're using a VPN to torrent something?
You pretty much can't do anything until it's done because logging into forums, social media, games etc might give away your details, right?
Realistically they're not going to be monitoring forums, random websites or games trying to correlate accounts to torrent streams. At most they'll infiltrate, capture and/or monitor torrent tracking sites, so make sure you only ever visit those from a computer behind a VPN using a browser that doesn't have the WebRTC leak.
Perhaps Choopa LLC (registered in USA) is actually providing a DNS shifting service plus VPN tunnel (ie you think you are choosing a Sydney server, but you are in fact not doing so).
Several VPNs do this, particular any VPN that is torrent friendly. They will have a set of servers where the true location is obfuscated, but is really offshore, and then usually another set of servers as a backup that are really here in Australia, which are handy for things like the AFL or TenPlay that may or may not play up otherwise.
I've been trying this and still find the overall speeds to be fluctuating quite a fair bit and quite dependent on peaking times. Not really sure what could be done about all of this, just a learning curve for me to find the sweet spot.
Next time you hit a high speed, visit dnsleaktest.com - the IP address on the front page is the one you need (or visit Ipleak.net and the first IP address is the one you want, or you could get it from your PC by clicking the Windows button, typing cmd, pressing enter, then typing ipconfig /all)
Then use that IP address to connect manually using OpenVPN client using these instructions https://www.privateinternetac
Where it says to download the configuration files, get the "IP based" files instead, here:
https://www.privateinte
Or this one if lower port numbers give you better speeds: https://www.privateinternetac
The IP in the Australia files is the load balancer, replace it with the IP you get when you connect which is the shared server IP.
(or L2TP which would be easier to install, instructions here: https://www.privateinternetac
This is all quite advanced stuff though, a practice for the geeks who love to tinker.
If the server is really offshore wouldn't the ping rate be fairly bad? I'm getting 60-70ms connected to Sydney.
BastardSheep:
So do u mean that if i visit any torrent search size and download .torrentfile from other computer not having VPN and use that torrent file to download it in utorrent on computer having VPN.
I will still be in trouble od downloading torrent file from site. Do they have access to all those torrent sites.
I usually download torrentfiles from my laptop and then put in network folder where my dedicated download machine picks up
What kind of protection do you mystically think your firewall/NAT provides that being behind a VPN providers NAT doesn't?
Your own firewall/NAT might be set up better than theirs, that was my point � with your own firewall you know what is going on, with theirs � it is a black box of unknown quantities.
Your own firewall/NAT might be set up better than theirs, that was my point � with your own firewall you know what is going on, with theirs � it is a black box of unknown quantities.
So, you're basically fear mongering. Gotchya.
I've been using PIA through their US Midwest servers and been very impressed with the speeds. I get 4-8Mbps most nights.
So, you're basically fear mongering
No � just stating a fact. Connecting your computer to unknown risks has been a definite no-no for a couple of decades at least.
No � just stating a fact. Connecting your computer to unknown risks has been a definite no-no for a couple of decades at least.
And yet you can't define exactly what this risk is that you want people to be so worried about. Fear mongering.
Are you sure you want to do that? What sort of speed are you getting through the VPN?
I haven't done a full test as yet... but It doesn't seem to have decreased by much (if any). Need to do further testing.
I was more asking for future rather than now. At the moment a Proxy for Torrents is all I need. Potentially in the near future for Internet Explorer.
But who knows...
you can see if you can flash your router with DD-WRT
Mmmmm Billion doesn't even appear.
Yes, Google continually places cookies into your browsing history so they can track you. Some people are also so dumb as to remain logged in to their Google account whilst using their VPN.
Just learning about VPN's myself and looking through some relevant threads to learn from the contributors as is my norm.
Sad to see this point phrased as it is though. Technically I have learnt from it, but have little respect for the poster. Why are people so negative. What is wrong with "People should be made aware that they shouldnt stay logged in etc etc...."
I found this article... http://stevehardie.com/2010/0
But VPN is not an option... under Advanced Configuration.... I'll keep Googling.
Edit: http://au.billion.com/products/voip/bipac7404vnpx.html Mmmm Looks like it may not have that capability,
And yet you can't define exactly what this risk is
That IS the risk.... an unknown quantity between your computer and the internet....
can anyone else try their leak test with this site?
https://www.perfect-privacy.com/dns-leaktest/
this site seems to pick up my IP which is of concern, yet the others listed in this thread are fine and does not show my IP.....strange.
this site seems to pick up my IP which is of concern, yet the others listed in this thread are fine and does not show my IP.....strange.
Just ran a test, my results were fine just as other sites were.
On a side note, I use my iMac more than my gaming laptop which runs windows 8.1
iMac has never had issues with dns leaks, though my laptop has with windows has had one or two that I've sorted. Meh windows
That IS the risk.... an unknown quantity between your computer and the internet....
Do you completely vet any ISP and their internal network before you start using them? Do you completely vet your friends wifi networks before you connect your phone or laptop to it? What about school & uni? Work? The list goes on.
PIA haven't just popped up overnight. Unless you want to state an explicit threat and cause for concern other than just "the great unknown boogeyman ohhhhhhhh", you're just fear mongering.
Do you completely vet any ISP
I have a firewall which I control between my computer and the ISP.
I have a firewall which I control between my computer and the ISP.
Congratulations. Doesn't address the other scenarios. You're just fear mongering.
That IS the risk.... an unknown quantity between your computer and the internet....
Are you sure it's not more a case of:
There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.
Doesn't address the other scenarios.
Look � I was just trying to make sure people were aware that their computer was no longer protected by their firewall, nothing more nothing less.
If you want to take the risk, that's your decision � however with so many new people on VPNs many may not realise that this is the case.
There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.
Head trip!
ust ran a test, my results were fine just as other sites were.
thanks for that but i figure the ip leak on my windows computer was strange so i manually programmed google's servers into the dns settings of the adapter and now the test comes up clean and ISP listed as google....LOL
Look � I was just trying to make sure people were aware that their computer was no longer protected by their firewall, nothing more nothing less.
If you want to take the risk, that's your decision � however with so many new people on VPNs many may not realise that this is the case.
Well I got Kaspersky Internet Security, so you saying malware/viruses. The internet security would detect that crap straight out and get rid of it. I can understand an attack can come through the vpn which my firewall trusts but it can also do that with trusted applications anyway so what's the difference? I ain't no tech over this. If you got decent security measures set up on your PC too you can't modify anything without admin permission or passwords such as apple/macs how are you not DECENTLY safe? I say decent nothing is full
My understanding is only ISPs have to log user data for 2 years. I don't define PIA as an ISP
Yes, but you haven't written the law. The pretty archaic Broadcasting Services Act of 1992 defines an ISP. An ISP is much broader than an internet carriage provider, and the metadata act (the Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Amendment (Data Retention) Bill 2015) in clause 29 is explicit that it applies to both carriers and Broadcasting-Act-defined ISPs. It presents the two separately, along with a future catch-all 'as defined in Regulations'.
So the legislation is pretty clear. Of course, the Government may not use those full powers (yet).
So the legislation is pretty clear.
lol � I think it is anything but clear. :)
M.
lol � I think it is anything but clear. :)
OK, fair call. It's not clear. But the legislation is much wider than companies that provide an internet carriage service.
so if you put PIA's dns servers in your PC and not have the VPN connected, you can still browse as usual ?
yep, I have been using their DNS servers with & without having PIA's VPN connected for days & I believe it is better than my regular IPS's DNS servers
cheers
So the legislation is pretty clear.
Clear as mud, like a lot of legislation. I guess we will have to just keep an eye on what happens. They might make VPNs log data in Australia but if/when they do we will all move to servers elsewhere.
They might make VPNs log data in Australia but if/when they do we will all move to servers elsewhere.
Correct. If the VPN services aren't logging now (as they claim) and are suddenly told they are under scope and need to be logging data, then I am sure (?) they will tell us and we can just change our exit points to other countries.
M.
I found the best way to do this is through a 3rd party app that is designed to work through VPNs and firewalls.
I use www.jumpdesktop.com myself, it's awesome and better than anything else i've ever used for remote desktop. You can choose to set it up manually but I sync connections to all my windows machines through my google/gmail account and I've never had an issue in the 4+ years I've used it, works great even on Windows 8.1.
However, teamviewer and others should still work.
Can you give a quick run down of how this works and any limitations, their website doesn't go in to much detail?
I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to run the VPN all the time because I want access via my Android via VNC (I currently use RealVNC via Dyndns).
Obviously I can set it up as a short term solution using the VPN's IP address with RealVNC but I don't want to have to change the IP every day (when my VPN IP changes due to computer reboots etc).
How does it work with the whole Google thing exactly, will I be able to run the VPN always, reboot my PC and have the VPN connect to a new IP address and not have to change any settings on my Android/PC?
Correct. If the VPN services aren't logging now (as they claim) and are suddenly told they are under scope and need to be logging data, then I am sure (?) they will tell us and we can just change our exit points to other countries.
Setup your own OpenVPN access server (Very easy) and turn off logging then you'll know 100%
Setup your own OpenVPN access server (Very easy) and turn off logging then you'll know 100%
I actually did this prior to signing up with PIA. I used the AWS free tier to spin up an instance and installed OpenVPN. Pretty easy to configure etc... The only real reason I don't continue with that is obviously a commercial VPN service has more points of presence and more servers. Creating your own VPN (as I did) can still lead back to you from wherever you spin it up.
M.
Can you give a quick run down of how this works and any limitations, their website doesn't go in to much detail?
There are no limitations that I can see. The setup software takes you through installing a VNC server if it can't detect one, or it will default to Windows RDP if you have an appropriate version of windows. It then reccomends you use gmail for keeping track of your PCs IP, but you don't have to do that, you can connect to the VNC manually, but then if you did that you will still have the same problem you do today.
The app on your PC builds an SSL tunnel around the VNC server to communicate with your google account over HTTPS so that your IP can be reported back.
Obviously I can set it up as a short term solution using the VPN's IP address with RealVNC but I don't want to have to change the IP every day (when my VPN IP changes due to computer reboots etc).
The google integration acts like your dyndns does � it keeps track of your IP and reports it back to the android app, which is also using google integration.
Chrome remote desktop is another solution, and has much the same effect. I just really like the controls in Jump Desktop, they have been developed over many years of user feedback and I find I was much slower when using anything else, especially the Microsoft official RDP app. The controls allow me to get things done very quickly. Love it.
When I connect to sydney servers and then I do a IP/DNS leak test I get the following:
Australia � South Australia , Choopa, LLC � Hosting
The IP address and DNS detection has the same IP which starts with 108.XXX.XXX.XXX
When I connect to other countries such as Singapore and do a IP/DNS leak test I get:
Singapore
SoftLayer Dutch Holdings B.V. � Hosting
The IP address and DNS detection has the same IP address
The IP/DNS address detected is not my ISP's. Is this is how it is supposed to work ?
Setup your own OpenVPN access server (Very easy) and turn off logging then you'll know 100%
Listen to this man, he knows his stuff. Just make sure you stay away from AWS and you'll be fine.
http://lowendbox.com. Have a look on here and work out the math yourself.
Hi guys, I used to be able to disconnect from one of PIA servers and just use my normal internet connection without doing anything but now whenever I disconnect from my VPN my normal internet doesn't work. Any ideas on how to fix it?
Hi guys, I used to be able to disconnect from one of PIA servers and just use my normal internet connection without doing anything but now whenever I disconnect from my VPN my normal internet doesn't work. Any ideas on how to fix it?
you probably have the kill vpn switch turned on in the PIA client ? you might have to untick that option and close the pia client to use your normal internet.
you probably have the kill vpn switch turned on in the PIA client ? you might have to untick that option and close the pia client to use your normal internet.
Its unticked on the settings page. The only thing I installed was VPNWatcher so utorrent would automatically exit if the VPN turned off but that was a couple days before this issue started.
Its unticked on the settings page. The only thing I installed was VPNWatcher so utorrent would automatically exit if the VPN turned off but that was a couple days before this issue started.
do you have dns leak protection turned on in the pia client ?
Hi guys, I used to be able to disconnect from one of PIA servers and just use my normal internet connection without doing anything but now whenever I disconnect from my VPN my normal internet doesn't work. Any ideas on how to fix it?
I had the same problem. What I do now is exit the application from the tray, don't disconnect, it seems to wreck your normal adapter settings. Just start up PIA again if you want to do another VPN session.
To fix the adapter get windows to do a repair job on it otherwise you have to go into the adapter properties and manually reset and then reboot.
The IP/DNS address detected is not my ISP's. Is this is how it is supposed to work ?
Yes. That means you are safe and your IP is not leaking (which is what you want).
do you have dns leak protection turned on in the pia client ?
yes its on.
To fix the adapter get windows to do a repair job on it otherwise you have to go into the adapter properties and manually reset and then reboot.
This worked, the repair window said something along the lines of DHCP not enabled or something like that.
When I connect to sydney servers and then I do a IP/DNS leak test I get the following:
Australia � South Australia , Choopa, LLC � Hosting
The IP address and DNS detection has the same IP which starts with 108.XXX.XXX.XXX
When I connect to other countries such as Singapore and do a IP/DNS leak test I get:
Singapore
SoftLayer Dutch Holdings B.V. � Hosting
The IP address and DNS detection has the same IP address
The IP/DNS address detected is not my ISP's. Is this is how it is supposed to work ?
Yes, that is right. You don't say which leak test url you are using � I use http://ipleak.net
The key thing is that both your IP and the DNS address are NOT your ISP provided IP address or the ISP's DNS server.
Do note that the location and owner information may or may not be completely accurate. It just comes from a set of tables which the leak test web site needs to keep up to date � there is no GPS or other magic!
The hosting (e.g. Choopa or Softlayer) are from the registered owner of the IP address ranges used by PIA's server hosting providers. This is at first sight confusing as we expect the IP addresses to belong to PIA � they don't.
Recently PIA/Choopa moved Adelaide hosting to Sydney and I think that 108... is one of these addresses. My Sydney connection right now is 103... and is correctly reported as Choopa in Sydney.
I've got an issue (that by the looks of it can't be fixed) with Chrome leaking my DNS, but not Firefox.
We'll worry about that later, the question of the moment is this ................
Are the VPN 'service' and the Proxy (SOCKS5) 'service' two completely, independent animals ?
I've noticed that some people have issues with the proxy server and utorrent playing nicely together, but as far as I can see, it's working 100% as advertised for me.
I simply put the SOCKS5 details in the utorrent "Proxy Server" options, ticked ALL the boxes under that and it all seems to be working 100%.
Having configured utorrent like this does this mean it will **ONLY** connect to the Internet via the selected proxy server ?
So if PIA's proxy Server cr@ps itself utorrent will (effectively) JUST keep trying to connect via the (unresponsive) proxy, thus maintaining 100% privacy. So that no-one can possibly what Linux Distro I am currently (attempting) to download ??
Thanks.
does this mean it will **ONLY** connect to the Internet via the selected proxy server ?
this is correct.
So if PIA's proxy Server cr@ps itself utorrent will (effectively) JUST keep trying to connect via the (unresponsive) proxy, thus maintaining 100% privacy. So that no-one can possibly what Linux Distro I am currently (attempting) to download ??
that is correct but why would anyone care about you downloading a free OS distribution? :)
that is correct but why would anyone care about you downloading a free OS distribution? :)
Targeted advertising :-)
Are the VPN 'service' and the Proxy (SOCKS5) 'service' two completely, independent animals ?
Yes, proxy less secure.
So if PIA's proxy Server cr@ps itself utorrent will (effectively) JUST keep trying to connect via the (unresponsive) proxy, thus maintaining 100% privacy.
I would solely rely on the VPN side of things, for the utmost security.
If I were you, I would dump uTorrent and utilise qBittorrent asap, as you have the option to select the network interface that PIA provides within qBittorrent's options, instead of relying on a SOCKS connection.
If the PIA interface goes down, or if you disconnect PIA, your torrents will stop, so no need to get too worked up about what really happens under the hood ;-)
that is correct but why would anyone care about you downloading a free OS distribution? :)
lol good thing you have a VPN setup even Linux won't know who's dling it.
I've set up utorrent the same and use a normal connection for browsing, gaming etc.
Just be aware that socks5 proxy is an unencrypted connection, you should "force encryption" in your torrent client settings and have "allow incoming legacy connections"unticked, if you want the traffic encrypted.
But if your "only" downloading Linux distros, then i wouldn't bother. :)
allow incoming legacy connections"unticked, if you want the traffic encrypted.
Good point, done.
Yeah but I really don't want to be tracked, I'm dling so many Linux dists.
Just be aware that socks5 proxy is an unencrypted connection
But If you go through the open vpn say on an Australia server + the socks 5 proxy your data is encrypted from your ISP from I understand.
I would dump uTorrent and utilise qBittorrent asap
+1, uTorrent is disgusting as of late used to be good back quiet a few years ago. qBittorrent is a very good program works very well on macs as well next option would be Deluge.
I've been on to PIA Tech Support without too much luck, like most Tech Support staff they are great at sending "Cut 'N Paste" canned answers, not so much actually reading your question and coming up with a real answer.
Here's the latest I've sent them, but I DID attach the images, if I could work out the best way to post them here for your viewing pleasure I would :o !!
Austen.
Thanks M.... ,
I *HAVE* installed the Chrome Extension WebRTC as you can see from the attached Screenshot PIA_01.jpg.
browserleaks.com seems to confirm that it is working "Is WebRTC Enabled" = False as shown in PIA_02.jpg
However, ipleak.com NOT ONLY finds my real IP Address, it also finds my Internal Address as shown in PIA_03.jpg !!
How can I stop these leaks ?
Thanks,
ere's the latest I've sent them, but I DID attach the images, if I could work out the best way to post them here for your viewing pleasure I would :o !!
if I could work out the best way to post them here for your viewing pleasure I would :o !!
easy peasy.
I am looking into a VPN service, does this work on top a current ISP service or if I'm not contacted to a ISP will this still work? Im a dummy when it comes to this
Here's the latest I've sent them, but I DID attach the images, if I could work out the best way to post them here for your viewing pleasure I would :o !!
Chrome has issues with the extension by all accounts. Reports say use Script Safe. Don't use Chrome if you really want to be sure of not leaking your ip address.
edited.
But If you go through the open vpn say on an Australia server + the socks 5 proxy your data is encrypted from your ISP from I understand.
if you were using the PIA client, wouldn't the data be encrypted? or do you have to use open vpn?
If I were you, I would dump uTorrent and utilise qBittorrent asap, as you have the option to select the network interface that PIA provides within qBittorrent's options, instead of relying on a SOCKS connection.
you can bind qBittorrent to use a specific adapter in your PC? so in the case of PIA, you bind it to the TAP adapter ?
you can bind qBittorrent to use a specific adapter in your PC? so in the case of PIA, you bind it to the TAP adapter ?
Yes certainly can, it simply choosing the correct 'Network interface' to use in qBittorrent.
choose:
> Options
> Advanced
> Network Interface (requires restart)
> choose the correct interface from the drop down list, the default PIA adapter is called TAP � Win32 Adapter V9 (not sure if this is different for 64bit systems)
> click Apply, then OK
> restart qBittorrent
If PIA is not connected/down, qBittorrent is rendered useless for downloads as it won't use any other Network interface other than PIA's own interface. ;-)
if you were using the PIA client, wouldn't the data be encrypted? or do you have to use open vpn?
I'm confused lol sorry
I mean if you use the pia client your data will be encrypted no matter what location you choose from your ISP.
The socks 5 proxy is just another smoke screen to hide your PIA server, really only needed if you use Australian/U.K or U.S servers as there is no point using a Netherlands server and a Netherlands proxy ontop of it.
This will test your browser and connection for IPv6 readiness, as well as show you your current IPV4 and IPv6 address and ISP.
http://test-ipv6.com/
I unticked ipv6 on lan adapters and that stopped DNS leaks.
Anyone know how to open ports with PIA when running on a NAS?
I can see there's a script but I can't seem to run it.
Any help would be great!
Anyone know how to open ports with PIA when running on a NAS?
Look for UPnP in the settings on your router and enable. Should automatically open needed ports etc.
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