Hi there! I'm moving to Athelston suburb and there are quite a few ISP providers that cover that area (no NBN available, only ADSL2+).
Anyone living in that suburb, please share which ISP are you using and what speeds do you experience, how often outages and how much you pay. Thank you for sharing!
I did have ADSL2 with internode and got 1-2mb down .5 up. I now use Nuskope i get 20mb down and 5-10mb up. I some times have issues with high wind and rain due to trees. I have a friend also in athelstone who has no problems because he has a clean LOS. check out your address at http://sq.nuskope.com.au/simplesq/ .
Welcome to the hood.....
I am not in that area but can recommend Nuskope, they will only install if they can deliver plan speeds to you and give great service with local people not some call center that you cant understand that read from idiot sheets
Forgot ADSL2+. Nuskope is the best option to go for by far. Great speeds and price, and its a local ISP. You would be silly to go with anyone else in athelstone (unless you don't have line of sight to their towers)
FYI i used to have ADSL2+ in athelstone and i could never get more than 5mb download speed. The copper there is woeful. Nuskope you will get solid 12+ mb downloads
Moved to Nuskope from Internode last month, unbelievable service and speeds, used to get 2Mb download with Internode due to distance from exchange and crap phone lines, this morning running speedtest the results were 48Mb down and 5mb uploads, great support too, if you get LOS to a tower really there is no other option
Forgot ADSL2+. Nuskope is the best option to go for by far. Great speeds and price, and its a local ISP. You would be silly to go with anyone else in athelstone (unless you don't have line of sight to their towers)
Please go with Nuskope.
The copper there is woeful.
It's not so much that it is woeful, the area is just very, very far from the exchange.
Please go with Nuskope.
Lol, I'm guessing that someone doesn't want any additional people trying to get their 6km long phone lines to support ADSL :)
I'm moving to Athelston suburb and there are quite a few ISP providers that cover that area (no NBN available, only ADSL2+).
Actually, it's never that simple. The far eastern part only has ADSL1 and probably isn't too bad. The worst part is where the purple dots are clustered. The part north of Gorge Road around Shelton Drive probably has 22Mbps Telstra ADSL2+ so it has some good parts.
http://www.adsl2exchanges.co
Thanks everyone for your advice!
I tried to search my address in "Wireless Service Qualification" but I can't figure out what this information really means, please see the screenshot:
Btw, coming from Ukraine, I have never used ADSL and not sure if I need normal or naked one?
Also, in Athelston, would it be better to connect through ADSL2+ or wirelessly?
I tried to search my address in "Wireless Service Qualification" but I can't figure out what this information really means
I assume it means that the initial check says that you can get a line of sight service from the Highbury tower (which is the nearest and most relevant to your area). However, I doubt the initial check caters for all the terrain, trees and buildings.
I have never used ADSL and not sure if I need normal or naked one?
That's the wrong question. They basically are the same ADSL product, but there will be differences in price, and one comes with an active land line phone service. If the total price is equal then don't choose naked.
in Athelston, would it be better to connect through ADSL2+ or wirelessly?
Read the previous posts again, it will depend on your specific area, and generally ADSL will be more cost effective than wireless.
I contacted NuSkope and it turns out there are no spots left for ADSL, the only possible way to connect is through WSDL � what a disappointment!..
the only possible way to connect is through WSDL � what a disappointment!..
But thats what you want. Its going to be faster than any copper based solution unless you connect through an external ISAM such as a TopHat.
I contacted NuSkope and it turns out there are no spots left for ADSL, the only possible way to connect is through WSDL � what a disappointment!..
all of our comments are based on their WSDL service. forget ADSL, this is much better in Athelstone
Aha, I didn't realize about all your comments being about wifi connection. There are a few issues though:
- The price is higher with WDSL
- The connection fee is pretty high if no fixed term contract (my case)
- Will need to seek landlord the permission to install the antenna on the roof
So, are you saying ADSL2+ is slower in Athelstone than WDSL?
Also, someone told me about TPG � any info about that one in Athelstone?
I'm a bit confused now � how come one provider does not have spots available where another one does, but it all happens through the same phone line? I should be misunderstanding how it works.
Just phoned TPG and asked them to find out in their statistics database what is the average connection speed for their clients in Athelstone. They found a few and no one got an ADSL connection with download speed higher than 3mbs.
They found a few and no one got an ADSL connection with download speed higher than 3mbs.
Which is why people were suggesting Nuskope WDSL :). Distance is the problem at Athelstone. There are a couple of RIMs out there as well which could make a difference but you'd have to know if you would end up on one.
Aha, I didn't realize about all your comments being about wifi connection. There are a few issues though:
- The price is higher with WDSL
- The connection fee is pretty high if no fixed term contract (my case)
- Will need to seek landlord the permission to install the antenna on the roof
So, are you saying ADSL2+ is slower in Athelstone than WDSL?
Also, someone told me about TPG � any info about that one in Athelstone?
I'm a bit confused now � how come one provider does not have spots available where another one does, but it all happens through the same phone line? I should be misunderstanding how it works.
its worth the extra cost trust me. you will get 12mb download (or more depending on where its coming from) and 1mp upload
in the near future they apparently are planning on offering higher speeds. The WSDL connections in athelstone are generally very fast and can probably easily do over 50mb, however they are generally throttled to 12mb
- The price is higher with WDSL
It's not DSL, by the way, it's a fixed location wireless product. They shouldn't refer to it as DSL.
I mentioned previously that ADSL will be cheaper, but when too far from the DSL equipment's location it will be slow.
So, are you saying ADSL2+ is slower in Athelstone than WDSL?
Athelstone is a big place, there are some parts that are 22Mbps, and others that are 7Mbps, and others that are under 3Mbps.
Also, someone told me about TPG � any info about that one in Athelstone?
TPG will be slow unless perhaps you get an Off-net plan with them (refer to my previous sentence).
I'm a bit confused now � how come one provider does not have spots available where another one does
Nuskope has simply stopped selling ADSL, but they are being very unprofessional and are still advertising it regardless.
but it all happens through the same phone line?
Different equipment (and/or location) at the other end.
What are RIMs?
Like a mini-exchange, that's in your local area rather than in Glynde where TPG is.
TPG will be slow unless perhaps you get an Off-net plan with them (refer to my previous sentence).
Is it possible to specify an off net plan or will they simply try as the default to connect you to their own equipment regardless if its the best outcome. ? At Athelstone you'd be better off in most cases being connected to a RIM even if its only ADSL1 and padded than connected straight to the exchange.
Is it possible to specify an off net plan or will they simply try as the default to connect you to their own equipment regardless if its the best outcome. ?
They have separate plan ranges. TPG reps have confirmed in the past that their off-net is available everywhere except Tasmania, but the online website sign-up has some limitations.
It's possible to get a 80/50 connection from NuSkope, PtP/Business Plans allow this.
It's possible to get a 40/40 connection from a DSL service. That doesn't mean that anybody should be mentioning it when asked about normal retail residential plans.
Just because those plans are not up on their site does not mean they dont exist.
Nuskope promote a lot of plans on their site that don't exist, so why should we want to know about ones that aren't even on there.
Got connected just now
Impressive turnaround time. Wasn't it only yesterday that you still hadn't applied? You wouldn't have had it connected so quickly with ADSL.
Impressive turnaround time. Wasn't it only yesterday that you still hadn't applied? You wouldn't have had it connected so quickly with ADSL
Yes, they connected the following day after my application. That was impressive compared to my 2-weeks waiting time in Canberra (with local ISP, just a-la Nuskope).
However, I should say that I cannot understand why rich Australia cannot afford fast internet cheaply. Rich America does. Why Australia does not?
Coming from Ukraine, here is what I was used to:
- most expensive packages are around $20 and give you unlimited downloads and uploads
- nobody limits the upload speed, so it's usually 50-70% as good as the download speed
- in general, speeds are higher than 50mbs whatever ISP you use
- not only do not you pay the connection fee, but you usually get 1 to 3 months unlimited connection for free (competition in work!)
- connection is always same day or next day
- Ukrainian traffic (I mean, traffic within the country) is always free and unlimited (why is Australian not?)
So, to be fair, I was really, really surprised to come into a rich and one of the most developed countries in the world and get such a slow Internet connection, high connection / usage fees, etc etc. And... you still use ADSL technology that comes from the previous era? Well, I had to buy a modem for myself as well. Yet, Australia is my choice for the rest of my life and I'm happy to live here, so I just have to get used to this :) If you don't like Australia, come live in another country and you'll realize you've escaped a paradize!
However, I should say that I cannot understand why rich Australia cannot afford fast internet cheaply. Rich America does. Why Australia does not?
Population density, we don't have the density of population to allow rapid growth/replacement of internet technologies, hence why the original FTTH plan came about, then destroyed by an incoming government that hates to spend money to improve a nation.
Hello,
Moving to Athelstone within the next month although it is the 'closer' part of the suburb near stradbroke rd
would Nuskope still be the best bet even though I'm near Campbelltown?
Looking at their site I can see a (up to) 30meg 200gb plan for $60 a month
seems cheaper than Telstra, although more than Node. That being said I doubt Node can sync up to those speeds so i guess thats the payoff
Near Stradbroke Rd, you might still be in Telstra Cable area? Not sure where Eastern edge of the Cable coverage is (used to live for a time between Stradbroke & Newton Roads and had Cable) other than that, you are starting to get into longer line territory for ADSL/ ADSL 2. Just checked a couple of addresses in that area and only ADSL 2 is coming up for Telstra.
As a guide, put your address into TPG's site for a guesstimate on how far you are from their DSLAM. Their site will also give you guides of others's speeds (with TPG) within 100/200/500 m of your address. From east of Stradbroke Rd, looking like >4km line length.
https://www.tpg.com.au/maps/
Would love to be able to comment on Nu-Skope, but unfortunately we don't have line of site to a tower at the moment. I've seen that the Nu-Skope regulars have been responding to you in their thread.
Am currently on Telstra ADSL (not stable enough for ADSL 2) at >5km line length and getting 2.5Mbps/ 0.35Mbps.
From east of Stradbroke Rd, looking like >4km line length.
https://www.tpg.com.au/maps/
a fraction (a house or two) off that green zone. so in the blue part
seems i can't get Nuskope just yet until they build their Rostrevor tower
I'll have to try my luck with ADSL :/
once they do get onto it asap :)
Just posting back in for Telstra ADSL customers in the area � I noticed a bump in download speed since around mid-May.
Our ADSL1 service which usually hovered around 2.0-2.3Mbps download has been hovering around 4.0Mbps for the past 2 months. Upload speed remains unchanged though.
Anyone else seen an improvement? Speedtest results over past 6 months:
DATE DOWNLOAD_MEGABITS /UPLOAD_MEGABITS /LATENCY_MS SERVER_NAME DISTANCE_KLMS
1/12/2016 2.17 / 0.3 / 78 Adelaide 0
1/27/2016 2.05 / 0.34 / 77 Melbourne 650
2/12/2016 2.16 / 0.3 / 80 Adelaide 0
2/14/2016 0.92 / 0.46 / 91 Adelaide 0
2/23/2016 2.13 / 0.33 / 78 Adelaide 0
2/26/2016 2.23 / 0.33 / 79 Melbourne 650
2/26/2016 2.13 / 0.33 / 77 Adelaide 0
2/26/2016 2.12 / 0.33 / 50 Sydney 1150
2/29/2016 2.22 / 0.33 / 77 Melbourne 650
3/15/2016 2.22 / 0.32 / 26 Adelaide 0
3/18/2016 2.2 / 0.33 / 32 Adelaide 0
4/03/2016 2.25 / 0.32 / 35 Adelaide 0
4/04/2016 2.2 / 0.32 / 15 San Francisco, CA 12950
5/12/2016 2.34 / 0.34 / 77 Melbourne 650
5/17/2016 4.05 / 0.34 / 51 Adelaide 0
5/23/2016 3.96 / 0.34 / 73 Melbourne 650
5/30/2016 4.04 / 0.34 / 49 Adelaide 0
6/03/2016 3.67 / 0.31 / 53 Adelaide 0
6/24/2016 4.03 / 0.33 / 38 Melbourne 650
7/09/2016 4.06 / 0.33 / 65 Melbourne 650
7/25/2016 3.99 / 0.33 / 68 Melbourne 650
7/26/2016 4.06 / 0.34 / 74 Sydney 1150
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