Thứ Sáu, 7 tháng 10, 2016

1500/256: Internode or TPG? part 1

  • 2004-Mar-30, 8:23 pm
    limestone
    O.P.

    I'm planning to take either

    TPG's 1500/256 unlimited plan, OR
    Internode's PADSL-1500-Unlimited-Blue (64 GB).

    Both are priced around $150.

    In order to make a choice, I need to know:
    1) Will I get constant high speed throughout the day? Would there be any speed drops if I take TPG's unlimited? Any hidden shaping (eg. lowered speed after downloading > 20 GB in a week)?
    2) Are the connections stable? Any random/regular disconnections throughout the day (eg. every 24 hours)? Any users of both plans out there who can tell me their experience?
    3) Does TPG & Internode use Type B ADSL for personal/home use?
    4) Any idea when Internode will provide static IP, and how much that will roughly be?

    Thanks loads.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 8:23 pm
    <*Brey*>

    Go with Internode they are the best ISP at the moment and ranked number 1 in broadband choice, over took iiNet :(

    limestone writes...

    2) Are the connections stable? Any random/regular disconnection throughout the day (eg. every 24 hours)? Any users of both plans out there who can tell me their experience?

    Well every ISP will bound to have troubles sooner or later with disconnection or email problems no ISP can be that perfect.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 9:09 pm
    Nick S.

    Internode, as said above, Number 1 and are HEAPS more reliable than TPG

  • 2004-Mar-30, 9:09 pm
    pc

    1) No. There is no shaping on TPG plans and there is only shaping on Internode's plan after 64gb each month.
    2) Yes, they should be on internode. Not sure about TPG,.
    3) Not sure
    4) Probably this week or next week.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 9:18 pm
    Zodd

    I am a tpg 256 unlimited at adelaide.
    in answer of your questions.

    1) with TPG yes, you will expect constant high speed day/night. in the course of 2 years i have being with tpg unlimited, my speed is always top notch and service to excellence. with TPG there is NO shaping or slow down what so ever, you simply get best speed throughout the month/years.

    2) TPG's adsl is very reliable, there has been 2 dns blackout [lasted 1-2 hours each] throught my 2 years with tpg, other than that, tpg is damn reliable.
    I am a 24/7 downloader and i know tpg is reliable from my logs.

    3) TPG unlimited can have both bridged or routed connection where tpg 256 home unlimited is PPOe oriented.

    4) internode will provide static in the coming days/weeks at surcharge.

    in the end, if you want simply want the best 1500 plan suitable for you, tpg is the way to go, cos why pay the same price when you can have more rather than 64gb then capped ??

  • 2004-Mar-30, 9:18 pm
    Zodd

    btw there has been a load of internode/vs tpg discussion covered already.

    forum-search-head.cfm?f=92&q=tpg+internode

    while both ISP provide excellent service , particually at internode for their customer service. tpg is better for a truly UNLIMITED service with both speed/reliability. even for those folks who want limited data service, wouldnt it be nice to have an isp with no speed / data restriction for peace of mind incase the need arrises?

  • 2004-Mar-30, 9:53 pm
    DistemperI

    internode

  • 2004-Mar-30, 9:53 pm
    JustSomeGuy

    I'll put in my vote for Internode as well ;)

  • 2004-Mar-30, 10:05 pm
    Nuggeteer

    TPG if ur a leecher ill tell u how it goes once ive churned

  • 2004-Mar-30, 10:05 pm
    Viper6
    this post was edited

    go internode, Simon Hackett is working on making sure flatrate is eventually "true unlimited" a la the united states....

    internode is far more reliable and stable than tpg
    just go look in the tpg forums and see people complaining about pings and disconnections...

    have a look in the node forums and you will see the node reps and even the CEO helping people

    the choice is obvious to me :P

  • 2004-Mar-30, 10:11 pm
    RogueX5

    Viper6 writes...

    have a look in the node forums and you will see the node reps and even the CEO helping people

    We have this facility as well, we call them JillC, Telfiri, IPV6ready.

    internode is far more reliable and stable than tpg
    just go look in the tpg forums and see people complaining about pings and disconnections...


    Cause Internode have absolutely PERFECT connection records. Never ever had a drop out in its entire existance. I've had a total of 1 hour downtime since i've been with TPG and this is over 2 seperate occasions so when the fan gets hit, they respond quickly.

    Simon Hackett is working on making sure flatrate is eventually "true unlimited" a la the united states....


    Eventually as opposed to now.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 10:11 pm
    Radio Amateur VK3CKK

    Some people might call me biased, but I churned from Bigpond to Internode among other reason for the much improved service. Once I had churned all the "outages" that I suffered at Bigpond seemed to vanish. If you want further informtion read the Internode FAQ or contact Internode direct on their Nationwide contact telephone number of 1300 788 233.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 10:46 pm
    Currawong

    I've never had any speed problems on Internode. One of the reasons for this is their Network which peers off multiple providers, so if one had problems, it doesn't affect their customers.

    Internode only uses type B connections for business customers. I'm not aware at the moment what form static IP will take with Internode when it arrives. Something to consider though is, what do you need a static IP for? I have a dynamic DNS service address, so apart from when I've turned my modem off, I've never been disconnected, so I've never been unexpectedly forced to update my dynamic DNS address.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 10:46 pm
    RogueX5

    don't you have to pay for DynDNS services?

  • 2004-Mar-30, 11:11 pm
    Tallican

    Viper6 writes...

    internode is far more reliable and stable than tpg
    just go look in the tpg forums and see people complaining about pings and disconnections...


    That is a very subjective statement.

    I would recommend TPG as I am a user and have had great and constant connection, no complaints here. However on 256/64.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 11:11 pm
    limestone
    O.P.

    Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I think both TPG and Internode customers are very happy with their choices, so it doesn't really matter which one I choose, eh?

    I'll make a decision in a few days' time.

  • 2004-Mar-30, 11:56 pm
    JustSomeGuy

    limestone writes...

    I'll make a decision in a few days' time.

    The anticipation builds :p

  • 2004-Mar-30, 11:56 pm
    Simon Hackett

    Eventually as opposed to now.

    True - its only completely non-contended for around 12-18 hours per day, so far (regardless of your download total).

    Which, frankly, is way good enough for more real people - already.

  • RogueX5

    Simon Hackett writes...

    Which, frankly, is way good enough for more real people - already.

    Thats very fair and by the sounds of it Internode are doing a great job.

    However just saying 12-18 hours a day doesn't help cause about 8 hours can be attributed to the dead hours of the night. (ie. midnight to about 8am). Which brings it to 4 - 10 hours. I'm merely guessing as obviously you'd have the main times of low contention.

    In a broad sweeping statement i'd say that most of Whirlpool aren't the average person. They're better informed (don't deny it, you know ur smarter for being part of Whirlpool hahaha) and would probably have a better understanding of computers and would want to keep everything up to date. (I'm personally a huge update whore, everything gets updated hehehe)

    But i also love watching episodes of series i quite like that haven't quite aired in australia yet. (For example i'm up to date with Las Vegas and am far ahead of australian schedule). So i guess if you have different habits different services would suit your needs.

    Price and the unlimited was just too juicy for me to not poke a stick at. But judging by the great reputation of Internode (and hopefully eventually Unlimitedness) i'd definetly churn to Internode if it could price match TPG.

  • Radio Amateur VK3CKK

    RogueX5 writes...

    about 8 hours can be attributed to the dead hours of the night.

    Lots of Internode customers seem to post at that time.

  • 2004-Apr-4, 9:57 am
    RogueX5

    Michael Kratz writes...

    they only really matter to those flatrate customers who insist on trying to download the entire Internet and thus have extremely high rolling totals. To most users on flatrate that have a life

    I find it intriguing you would imply that your own paying customers have no life. You have so many customers you can begin to insult them?

  • 2004-Apr-4, 9:57 am
    sprkle

    RogueX5 writes...

    I find it intriguing you would imply that your own paying customers have no life.

    I don't think that is what he meant.

  • 2004-Apr-4, 10:13 am
    kruzi

    im looking at getting on the internode 1500 flat rate plan.

    its a 7 day rolling total from what i understand, thus meaning the after 7 days your total starts fresh again? and you move back to normal priority in the data queue.

    im in melbourne and yes, i am a data whore. when people experience slowdowns, i mean normal speed would be 150-160kb/s from a good site.... when there are slowdowns are we talking like to 5kb/s? or like 30-60kb/s or how bad does it drop

    from what i understand also, i could churn in free and there is only a 3 month contract

    cheers

    kruzi.

  • 2004-Apr-4, 10:13 am
    CJS

    kruzi writes...

    its a 7 day rolling total from what i understand, thus meaning the after 7 days your total starts fresh again? and you move back to normal priority in the data queue.

    No. This is not correct.

    It is a rolling total. What is means that on day 8, the usage from day 1 comes off the total. On day 9, the usage from day 2 comes off the total. On day 10, the usage from day 3 comes off the total and so on.....

    Priortisation is always based on the previous 7 days rolling total so there is NO reset back to 0.

  • 2004-Apr-11, 11:04 am
    Vittus

    CJS writes...

    Priortisation is always based on the previous 7 days rolling total so there is NO reset back to 0.

    Or manually reset by holding back for a few days? :)

    Seriously, there are only so much to download, a few weeks back, my 7 days rolling can go as high as 30 gigs, but now, it's sitting at 5 gigs.

    I can't remember any slow down for my brother's game at all, and my needs to access some US based stock exchange private sites were loading fast enough.

    There are no reason for me to switch to any other ISP. Internode is offering me anything I demanded from an ISP to me, connection up-time is at 22 days and some hours. Which means there were no down times at all since the last time I reboot the router.

  • 2004-Apr-11, 11:04 am
    Radio Amateur VK3CKK
    this post was edited

    kruzi writes...

    from what i understand also, i could churn in free and there is only a 3 month contract

    That is not correct either, it is quite possible that you may need more current information from Internode[FAQ]

    Yes churn is free at present the 3month contract does not exist any more as it has been changed to a 6 month contract and $65.00 early termination fee is payable if you break your contract.Refer also to the new Internode plans and information which came into effect 1 March 2004{my downloadable limit more than doubled for the same price}. I also doubled my connection speed.

  • 2004-Apr-11, 11:22 am
    kruzi

    i download 24/7 on my 512k currently, getting around 80Gb/month down and 15Gb/month up.

    hence im looking at making the change to 1500kbps

    I realize internode is not a true unlimited as im on currently, but im looking for 30kb/s+ when my 7 day total is 50Gb etc

    achievable ?

    kruzi

  • 2004-Apr-11, 11:22 am
    Zodd
    this post was edited

    kruzi, 80 GB a month is shocking on 512 24/7 downloading, man
    i am on 256 and i download least 60 gig [all international data, non of those local peering stuff] a month for 4-5 months straight with TPG until i ran out of stuff to download, seriously get tpg and stop being slow down, they are great even if you dont need a huge downloads but assurance, that when and whereever, you will receive max line speed.

    cheers

  • Vittus

    kruzi writes...

    I realize internode is not a true unlimited as im on currently, but im looking for 30kb/s+ when my 7 day total is 50Gb etc

    not sure about 50 gigs 7 days rolling, but I've done 30+gigs (38? forgot) and still achieve 50K to full speed depends on what time of the day.

  • kruzi

    zodd.

    80Gb is a conservative estimate.

    i just checked the bandwidth stats and did 104Gb last month

    i do ocassionally game and therefore cap the leeching. also, private ftps go down etc and theres always maybe on average 90 minutes/day im not at 50kb/s+

    hehe

    if i could get 75kb/s 24/7 and 40-50gb/week on internode 1500kbps i'd churn :)

    TPGI is a ok choice but a 12 month contract, a big fee to get out and alot can change in 12 months within an ISP.

    kruzi

  • s parks

    kruzi writes...

    TPGI is a ok choice but a 12 month contract, a big fee to get out and alot can change in 12 months within an ISP.

    Kruzi,

    Yes TPG have a long contract, but since they have been the industry leader for price in broadband for the last 2+ years, and they revise their prices regularly, passing on all price reductions immediately to the user, a contract isn't really something to worry about, especially if you are getting
    a) Unlimited
    b) Best Price
    c) 400Gb+ per month (this is easily achievable on TPG 1536k/256k).

    Cheers,
    Telfiri.

  • Samui

    Im surprised someone is actually finding it hard to choose between internode and TPG.............

    I would go Internode in a flash

    Im a happy iinet user except for the dam PIPE business

    ii[W]ADE

  • 2004-Apr-11, 4:24 pm
    Larson

    [W]ADE writes...

    Im a happy iinet user except for the dam PIPE business

    What's wrong with PIPE? Seems like an added bonus for being with iiNet.

  • 2004-Apr-11, 4:24 pm
    Samui

    If you didnt see the recent PIPE thread in the iinet forums

    PIPE IS BEING COUNTED TO MY PEAK QUOTA
    and now im am very sad coz i have 60 mg left......

    [W]ADE

  • Samui
  • Nick S.

    (as usual) I stand by Internode, far more reliable than TPG

  • 2004-Apr-11, 5:48 pm
    bahamot

    I'm with Internode for 14 months now, and until now I've never regret my decision.

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