Thứ Sáu, 7 tháng 10, 2016

rejected ADSL2 App part 1

  • 2013-Mar-18, 4:30 pm
    ksystem
    O.P.

    so adsl1 is my option, is there a websites for plans for such?

  • 2013-Mar-18, 4:30 pm
    Newcrest
  • 2013-Mar-18, 4:39 pm
    Fast is good

    ksystem writes...

    so adsl1 is my option, is there a websites for plans for such?

    All providers resell Telstra ADSL services � usually called 'Off Net' or 'Reach' plans. They are more expensive (Telstra charge more for access to their hardware) and usually include less quota (again Telstra transmission cost is higher).

    It really depends on whether you want quantity of downloads or quality of service and support. You can have one or the other but not both. Also quality providers charge quite a bit more so something else to consider.

  • 2013-Mar-18, 4:39 pm
    ksystem
    O.P.
    this post was edited

    Yer i am on that map! hiding . i want to spend max $50 until nbn comes , grr this is more annoying. funny thing is i was with TPG and i had to close my account as they stated i could not get internet through them!

  • 2013-Mar-18, 4:44 pm
    Newcrest

    ksystem writes...

    i want to spend max $50 until nbn comes , grr this is more annoying

    Including phone? That'll be hard to do, but:
    $49.95 20GB
    http://www.spin.net.au/products/broadband

  • 2013-Mar-18, 4:44 pm
    ksystem
    O.P.

    if im on tat map what service can i get, would this work out cheaper?

  • Fast is good

    ksystem writes...

    if im on tat map what service can i get, would this work out cheaper?

    It does mean you can get Telstra resold ADSL2+ so faster!
    Cheaper NO � and you still need to pay for phone rental as well as the plan cost so $50 all up is almost impossible for any quota.

  • Newcrest

    ksystem writes...

    would this work out cheaper?

    Not sure what you mean.

    To get ADSL2+ you need to get an active phone line connected. If there hasn't been one before then it will cost $299. Some ISPs can arrange that on your behalf. Some (like TPG) can't. Once you have an active phone line then you should have access to Telstra-based ADSL2+.

    Spintel's plan is supplied on a Telstra port in a Zone 1 exchange at the same price as a non-Telstra port.

  • 2013-Mar-18, 5:49 pm
    ksystem
    O.P.

    i rang telstra, i can get adsl2 but with them and there priiiiiiiicey! ill think about prepaid mobile wireless i thinks

  • 2013-Mar-18, 5:49 pm
    Boogmeister

    ksystem writes...

    i rang telstra, i can get adsl2 but with them and there priiiiiiiicey! ill think about prepaid mobile wireless i thinks

    There are plenty of other providers you can go with who are cheaper. Does not have to be Bigpond.

  • 2013-Mar-18, 5:53 pm
    TD

    Coaxial cable conducts electrical signal using an inner conductor (usually a solid copper, stranded copper or copper plated steel wire) surrounded by an insulating layer and all enclosed by a shield, typically one to four layers of woven metallic braid and metallic tape. That's what coax cable has on the inner side of the cable. It is not made completely of copper though.

  • 2013-Mar-18, 5:53 pm
    ch0c0

    td writes...

    Coaxial cable conducts electrical signal using an inner conductor (usually a solid copper, stranded copper or copper plated steel wire) surrounded by an insulating layer and all enclosed by a shield, typically one to four layers of woven metallic braid and metallic tape. That's what coax cable has on the inner side of the cable. It is not made completely of copper though.

    By that arguement, the "copper" network isnt completely made of copper either, as it also has an insulating layer around it ....

  • 2013-Mar-18, 6:02 pm
    Newcrest
    this post was edited

    ch0c0 writes...

    By that arguement

    All he did was quote the Wikipedia article that I whimed him, yet he insists Wikipedia is wrong. He doesn't understand that HFC cable can carry phone services (like Optus Cable does)

    the "copper" network isnt completely made of copper either, as it also has an insulating layer around it ....

    Don't forget the plastic drink bottles and baggies that have reportedly been spotted in use ;)
    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-news/telstras-quick-fix-plastic-bag/story-e6freuzi-1111115429453
    http://www.overclockers.com.au/pix/index.php?page=image&id=npzt3

    I'd guess what Dodo was probably referring to was that the RIM in the OP's area was augmented by a Tophat.

    25 Oct 2011 Telstra will start rolling out Top Hats in November, to approximately 2000 street side cabinets and expect the project to be completed within 18 months. At the same time we�ll be replacing the connection from the street side cabinet to Telstra�s core network with Gigabit Ethernet fibre.

  • 2013-Mar-18, 6:02 pm
    Giancarlo

    td writes...

    That's what coax cable has on the inner side of the cable. It is not made completely of copper though.

    You're kidding, right?

  • 2013-Mar-18, 6:05 pm
    ksystem
    O.P.

    hmm there all out of price range, with phone line im looking at 60+ and im just awaiting NBN in Setp too

  • 2013-Mar-18, 6:05 pm
    Newcrest

    ksystem writes...

    hmm there all out of price range, with phone line im looking at 60+

    The Spintel "Connect One" plan is $49.95.
    http://www.spin.net.au/products/broadband

    im just awaiting NBN in Setp too

    When will that be?

  • 2013-Mar-19, 9:30 am
    ksystem
    O.P.
    this post was edited

    the NBNCO guys are everywere in my area, pretty much run over them when there having their smoko break in the middle of the road. They stated in September, with Spin it's on a 12 month contract

  • 2013-Mar-19, 9:30 am
    Newcrest

    ksystem writes...

    They stated in September

    So I guess that you want maximum 6 month contract then?

    Clubtelco $30pm ($50 effective setup fee, 1 month commitment) + Telstra Homeline Budget $22.95.
    Only 10GB at full speed but after that it's shaped to 1Mbps so not totally useless.

    Pennytel unlimited ADSL $39 ($100 setup for no contract) + Telstra HLB $22.95
    (There are still some question marks over the quality of the broadband product)

  • 2013-Mar-19, 10:16 am
    TD

    Newcrest writes...

    He doesn't even understand that HFC cable can carry phone services (like Optus Cable does)

    Wow come on NewCrest seriously... HFC does not support phone lines.... Please stop getting information off Wikipedia and ask some of your friends or IT professionals about it.

    Digital subscriber line (DSL) is a technology used by traditional telephone.

    Hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) is a telecommunications industry term for a broadband.

    HFC does not support telephone technology.

  • 2013-Mar-19, 10:16 am
    TD

    Giancarlo writes...

    You're kidding, right?

    No I'm not kidding I'm being quite serious. The inner side of the coax has copper lining in it but not a lot.

  • Giancarlo
    this post was edited

    td writes...

    HFC does not support phone lines.... Please stop getting information off Wikipedia and ask some of your friends or IT professionals about it.

    How about you stop posting things which you clearly have no idea about? Optus cable services, for instance, can deliver phone over the HFC cable.

    No I'm not kidding I'm being quite serious. The inner side of the coax has copper lining in it but not a lot.

    Coaxial cable IS copper (or steel) � the conductor � the part of the cable that actually carries the signal � is made of metal. You seem to be confusing HFC and fibre (and are misleading others, like in your first post when you said "Fiber doesn't use copper it is HFC")

  • Newcrest

    td writes...

    HFC does not support telephone technology.

    Of course it does. Both Optus and Neighbourhood Cable (now owned by iinet) provide traditional phone services via the HFC cable. Telstra's copper phoneline network is not used.

    Look at the description on the following link: HFC phone
    http://www.transact.com.au/en-VIC/MyTransACT/upgrade/hometalk

  • 2013-Mar-21, 12:36 pm
    rudebutt1

    ksystem writes...

    They stated in September, with Spin it's on a 12 month contract

    if you go with Spin's $50 20GB ADSL/Phone bundle on a 12 months contract and the NBN goes live in your area then Spin will migrate your plan from copper/ADSL onto the NBN fibre
    http://www.spin.net.au/nationalbroadbandnetwork

  • 2013-Mar-21, 12:36 pm
    TD

    Of course HFC uses phone line service, but coax cable it self does not and that's the argument I had with you NewCrest for some reason you think coax cable supports telephone line when it doesn't. Yes HFC has copper in it which is why it is used for both broadband/phone use.

    How about you stop posting things which you clearly have no idea about? Optus cable services, for instance, can deliver phone over the HFC cable.

    Yeah correct but not over coax cable. Don't be nasty next time find other ways of explaining things in a suitable and a respectful matter.

  • 2013-Mar-21, 12:46 pm
    TD

    Newcrest writes...

    Telstra's copper phoneline network is not used.

    You never knew that? Telstra's phone line isn't removed for a while due to people still requiring access to a phone line to make calls. After a couple of months or so NBN Co comes back and then will remove the copper line and the HFC network will be used as a phone line through Fiber to deliver clear and easy access phone line through the same connection.

    They're are a lot of things I know NewCrest about Telecommunication technology that you think I don't know.

  • 2013-Mar-21, 12:46 pm
    Giancarlo
    this post was edited

    td writes...

    the HFC network will be used as a phone line through Fiber

    HFC IS NOT FIBER (at least in the context of which you speak), and the NBN has NOTHING to do with HFC.

    Yeah correct but not over coax cable. Don't be nasty next time find other ways of explaining things in a suitable and a respectful matter.

    You are clearly the biggest troll of all time. Never have I found someone so infuriatingly sure of themself and so spectacularly wrong.

  • 2013-Mar-22, 8:06 am
    rdrr

    .

  • 2013-Mar-22, 8:06 am
    TD

    ..-.-'..

  • 2013-Mar-22, 8:09 am
    aliali

    td writes...

    Giancarlo writes...

    HFC IS NOT FIBER (at least in the context of which you speak), and the NBN has NOTHING to do with HFC.

    Think what ever you want I don't care about your opinion, judgements or harsh statements you have to say.

    Those are not opinions dude they are facts something that seems to be severely lacking in your posts about HFC and the NBN. I would recommend that you actually learn about these technologies before posting spurious and inaccurate information again.

  • 2013-Mar-22, 8:09 am
    bigjay

    TD writes...

    HFC network will be used as a phone line through Fiber to deliver clear and easy access phone line through the same connection.

    Oh geez, you really have no idea what you're talking about. HFC has NOTHING to do with the NBN network.

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