karina keisler � ?@karinakeisler
Bill Morrow calls out former CTO in the room. Hello @gmclwill #CommunicAsia2016
6:38 PM � 30 May 2016
Don't know what that was about?
Gary McLaren
Oh I see.. not sure *shrugs*
Bill begging for a new job soon to Gary?
On this point Raoul is correct going by the annual reports. The non executive directors do not get bonuses.
I will edit my posts then.
it was the use of "deferred bonuses" that threw me.
A "Deferred Bonus" is a bonus that is "earned" this year but not paid till a year or more in the future, it was a way of trying to ensure that people didn't fluff up profits but leave the company a smouldering shell with the mamagement and board all making heaps and shareholders left with nothing
Formula 1 is working on VR broadcasts now.
Formula 1 VR is not an essential service.
If you really want a higher quality formula 1 experience you have a number of choices
1. Move to a country where formula 1 VR is offered
2. Get your driving license
3. Go watch a formula 1 race
4. Try and get a job on the F1 circuit
5. Try and get to know an F1 driver
However, Formula 1 and other VR services will assist provide revenue and profits from which to make FTTP services more viable to rollout further, broader and deeper.
They will also fast-track the adoption of new technology services and the upgrade of WAN/LAN/home network infrastructure and equipment, to make the whole end to end network more economically viable for FTTP and services that rely on the upload/download speed, reliability, low latency and upgradeability, that FTTP provides.
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
Please take at look at the annual report, no bonus deferral.
Hmm. If you take a close look at the remuneration section Ziggy is on a base salary of $209K with no bonus deferral.
That isn't the whole story though, is it?
Remember that period where Ziggy was being paid to be the Chairman of the Board as well as the CEO, at the same time?
Maybe you don't, when Ziggy was acting CEO was during the time that the Strategic Review was commissioned. That has proven to be a work of art rather than a serious business document.
I'd sack Ziggy for that reason alone.
Don't know what is going to happen
However, Formula 1 and other VR services will assist provide revenue and profits from which to make FTTP services more viable to rollout further, broader and deeper.
What if I want to build a VR shopping center? Where users can put in a pair of VR goggles walk around the complex and actually buy items in Australia? Even looking at ultra high resolution 3d models of the products they wish to buy. I guess they can't cause they don't have the bandwidth to support this.
Meanwhile the world moves onto that model and its the norm in those respective countries with gigabit to home services.
How about if we want to produce 3d VR scenes of tourist destinations within Australia and upload them so they can be paid per viewed by overseas consumers. Nope can't do that.
I guess Australia just doesn't want to be part of the global digital economy. Not a problem, guess its Monday to Friday 9-5pm, put in bugger all effort and don't care attitude.
Tell me how productive this nation will be just flipping papers around and digging up rocks, all while consuming endless finite resources funded by debt. We won't ever get back into surplus without inventing new industries or innovating properly. The NBN provides infrastructure to support innvation. The MTM handicaps the whole economy and nation.
Meanwhile the world moves onto that model and its the norm in those respective countries with gigabit to home services.
I'm currently testing the VR world with our industry at the moment.. Exciting times.
Using the Unreal Engine along with Tekla & Revit models, still many teething problems but the possibilities for the client are endless.
and yes I have direct fibre (not nbn)
I see Formula 1 is working on VR broadcasts now.
Maybe Daniel Riccardo can use it for training sessions for his engineers and pit crew ...... just not for when he and his team are in Melbourne on FttN though!
We won't ever get back into surplus without inventing new industries or innovating properly. The NBN provides infrastructure to support innvation.
Spot nbn amongst the Liberal Parties election plans and policies
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-plan
https://www.liberal.org.au/our-policies
nbn= an election policy/plan target so small, that they should just get of the "n" and "b" in the nbn and call it "n"(nothing or no ). Or at a stretch leave it as the "No Broadband Network" we want talked about or discussed much in the lead up to the Federal Election.
Tell me how productive this nation will be just flipping papers around and digging up rocks, all while consuming endless finite resources funded by debt. We won't ever get back into surplus without inventing new industries or innovating properly. The NBN provides infrastructure to support innvation. The MTM handicaps the whole economy and nation.
Excellent comment slam.
When it comes to productivity and that flowing down to communities and the benefits the resources industries in WA at least raised some interesting issues.
Local communities did not really benefit because fly in fly out and self contained accommodation etc at sites meant not much money flowing into the communities. The resources work force made up maybe 1-2% of workers in WA yet the cost of living topped Sydney and Melbourne � high property prices, high rents even coffee 25+% more than eastern seaboard. Lots of other examples. Only the few benefit and everyone else pays...
The FTTP NBN does quite the opposite distributing opportunity and capability across the population and the whole spectrum. You are quite correct MTM handicaps the whole economy and nation domestically and internationally. It would be terrific for this country to have Aussie based companies drawing international dollars back here rather than selling our assets eg. properties, farms, businesses...) or having the top brains move overseas because they can't function here or can't get remunerated to do the same thing.
A good read about why some people can and cannot get FTTN problems they have been having in the UK.
Tell me how productive this nation will be just flipping papers around and digging up rocks, all while consuming endless finite resources funded by debt. We won't ever get back into surplus without inventing new industries or innovating properly. The NBN provides infrastructure to support innvation. The MTM handicaps the whole economy and nation.
You hit the nail on the head.
"Hey NBN, where's my 8 month out of date roll-out plan?"
*nbn rubs chin thinking how it can get out of this*
https://twitter.com/jxeeno/status/737503846209978368
Ken Tsang ?@jxeeno 2m2 minutes ago
Under revised SAU, #NBN will no longer publish a quarterly update and will only publish 3 year plan once a year.
Transparent as a brick wall
Transparent as a brick wall
As a reply noted, they aren't even going to publish the 3 year plan � they will only make it available to RSPs who agree to their gag orders.
Of course, based on past performance, they will give updated information to Coalition MPs on request...
http://www.itnews.com.au/ne
so, they want the amended SAU to actually mention FTTB, FTTN, HFC and maybe FTTdp, at a later date, whereas the previous one did not mention any technologies at all
One has to wonder why.
The original one seems to have covered NBN Co on anything they run out, the new one would seem to lock them into specific technologies
Oh I see, it is every form of fixed line EXCEPT FTTP
One would wonder if a "revised" NBN was to run FTTP later would it be now excluded from the revised SAU?
more rotting fish I fear
"Strategic" as in the S in SAU is already a dirty word to me, meaning covering the behinds of those who profit by it.
From Rockys link above
NBN Co argued the one-year construction plan updates had become "redundant" given its monthly ready for service releases and its three-year construction plan.
Are the RFS monthly releases publicly available, or are they only available to access seekers?
These were publicly available and published on the NBN website until August 2013.
Are the RFS monthly releases publicly available, or are they only available to access seekers?
In the submission to the ACCC they are looking to restrict them to access seekers only.
It's actually "Special Access Undertaking"
ok, "Special" as in allowances need to be made for them?
In the submission to the ACCC they are looking to restrict them to access seekers only.
Is there any progress info left for the public?
Is there any progress info left for the public?
only via the Telstra wholesale pdfs and spreadsheets for expected RFS and Cease Sale
Guess Telstra will get raided soon for leaking nbn� CiC data
Guess Telstra will get raided soon for leaking nbn� CiC data
Don't need to raid that joint, just walk in there with a fake CV and you get top job :)
uess Telstra will get raided soon for leaking nbn� CiC data
I doubt that will happen. They still leak more of their own CIC info, that and they are the biggest law firm in the country.
https://delimiter.com.au/201
He he he
I once paid an analysis company to tell me how good I am.. damn I'm good
I see, it is every form of fixed line EXCEPT FTTP
Yep, can't have that nasty stuff..
Oh I see, it is every form of fixed line EXCEPT FTTP
Yep ... how to slam a door and dangle a carrot in one SAU.
Sorry Coalition, I still don't buy your whole "technology agnostic" BS.
Oh I see, it is every form of fixed line EXCEPT FTTP
What is it with their insane obsession with ruling out FTTP?
https://twitter.com/stuffspu
karina keisler
?@karinakeisler
With FULL rollout soon in view & annual updates provided, the fanbois are calling for quarterly updates. Hell, why not weekly?! Daily? #nbn
Touchy.
Touchy.
Has anyone told her that her company are trying to do away with the annual updates, and keep the three year plans secret?
more like using smoke signals and heliographs in keeping with the Liberal's smoke and mirrors policy re MTM
Good point!
Anyone who can do a shot straight to camera while intoning Faster! Cheaper! Sooner! about the obsolete MTM is someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.
Or perhaps knows very well, and so appears to be lying their head off.
Quarterly updates are not unreasonable yet she goes off the deep end and reacts as if we are asking for the crown jewels.
NBNCo used to be able to do it, yet now she calls us a bigoted name because she can't handle the pressure.
One wonders why NBNCo persist employing someone who keeps making the management look bad.
Touchy.
Well if their IT systems were up to scratch, they could provide an almost "live" system, but that'd no doubt breach CiC, can't have people actually aware of the NBN's progress can we? They might actually question the "big" pre-election "apolitical" announcements...
In the submission to the ACCC they are looking to restrict them to access seekers only.
My point is that these seem to have been restricted to RSPs already. I am pretty sure it was the data from these reports that was the information feeding jxeenos mynbn site initially. After the election the format of the data was changed, or access was restricted, or both, which broke the scripts he was using to automate the import of this data.
Has anyone told her that her company are trying to do away with the annual updates, and keep the three year plans secret?
Have now:
https://twitter.com/djos_500/status/737551229761425410
@karinakeisler did you think we didn't notice #nbn are trying to do away with the annual updates, and keep the three year plans secret?
Cheers :)
I doubt that will happen. They still leak more of their own CIC info, that and they are the biggest law firm in the country.
Interesting suggestion.
If they are anywhere near as customer-focussed and social-issue-friendly as they often like to trumpet, why would they need over 200 lawyers in the legal dept? When support staff are added, they must have more than 300 people there.
Since the coalition still appear to be hell-bent on handing the MTM over to them, such a grotesquely overweight legal presence suggests that the future for end-users is likely to be a very unhappy one.
karina keisler
?@karinakeisler
With FULL rollout soon in view & annual updates provided, the fanbois are calling for quarterly updates. Hell, why not weekly?! Daily? #nbn
Touchy.
I can't believe that she uses the term 'fanbois'. (Well maybe I can given her poor track record.) Karina Keisler totally lacks any class or professionalism.
What is it with their insane obsession with ruling out FTTP?
Can't have anything to do with technical selection, or with future short- and long-term national interest.
Dang, perhaps it's just venal political bastardry still 'informing' all those recently appointed minions . . .
I can't believe that she uses the term 'fanbois'.
I suspect what we are seeing is the long term effects of living inside a echo chamber. Mgmt and LNP drop-ins at NBN have surrounded themselves with a coterie of yes people and are quite isolated from real world feedback on their decisions. They seriously think all dissenting criticisms are from deluded "fanbois", not from professionals with decades of experience in the field.
Can't have anything to do with technical selection, or with future short- and long-term national interest.
Dang, perhaps it's just venal political bastardry still 'informing' all those recently app
But, but, didn't they say they are technologically agnostic?
Well if their IT systems were up to scratch, they could provide an almost "live" system
Don't get me started on the lack of real-time or near real-time public rollout and migration, activation status info within NBNCo.
It's been a few years since I whirlpool "lectured" on that issue under both NBN 1.0 and 2.0 management.
Ok let's look in the Apple Store to see if there are any Apps in the NBN Store for you and me to get info from? Oh dear. Zip. Nothing. ZZZZZZZEEEEEEERRRRRROOOOO*0 =0
Why the bloody hell not?
Who made that decision?
Are there any planned for anytime in the next 4 years?
If not why not?
Won't the minister direct NBNCo to come up with some useful Apps into Build, Rollout, RFS etc or at least make the info available to third parties?
Will Labor at least election promise to do better on this front and direct NBNCo via the SOE in general terms to lift their game in this area? If not why not?
@karinakeisler
With FULL rollout soon in view & annual updates provided, the fanbois are calling for quarterly updates. Hell, why not weekly?! Daily? #nbn
I can't believe that she uses the term 'fanbois'.
Using derogatory term's to describe groups of people or individuals via Twitter.
Surely she has breached NBN code of conduct here.
Can't believe she has not been sacked yet.
Tells you something about the culture of Senior Management within NBN, or is she just getting away with it for some other reason I leave other's to speculate over? What power does she hold that let's her get away with such totally unacceptable public behaviour repeatedly for a Government GBE or any organisation for that matter.
Does she have a specific brief to abuse people via twitter to act as a deterrent for public critisism of things NBN Co related. Who signed off on that? Why is the taxpayer indirectly funding that sort of behavior? More like a Fascist State than democracy when that sort of thing is allowed to happen.
Can't understand why Labor or Greens or Xenophon does not go for the jugular on this issue. What are they so scared of?
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/fanboi
fanboi or fanbois
1. Derogatory. A person with an irrational attachment to a particular item or brand name, and an equally irrational dislike for competing brands or items. This behaviour is often seen during discussion threads pertaining to ISPs, computer hardware or motor vehicles.
2. A person who has a strong dislike of a paticular item or brand name may incorrectly refer to another who uses that product as a fanboi.
But, but, didn't they say they are technologically agnostic?
As with all those coalition (previous) election promises, it seems we just didn't understand the meaning.
Apparently what they were actually conveying was: 'We will be technologically ignorant!'
http://www.itnews.com.au/ne
Here's the links to the all the related Docs for mining of any more interesting things about the MTM rollout we did not already know. Reading for a rainy night/day (lucky thee's lots of rain in Sydney this week:)
https://www.accc.gov.au/regu
On 27 May 2016, NBN Co lodged a variation to its SAU with the ACCC.
6 docs from NBN direct links below
https://www.accc.gov.au/syst
Covering letter
https://www.accc.gov.au/syst
NBN Co supporting submission
https://www.accc.gov.au/syst
Expert report � Ordover and Shampine
https://www.accc.gov.au/syst
Expert report � Bishop and Officer
https://www.accc.gov.au/syst
Expert report � Analysys Mason (public version)
https://delimiter.com.au/201
Analyst firm Analysys Mason has found in a detailed report commissioned by the NBN company that the NBN company�s initial design for its Fibre to the Node, Basement and HFC cable networks is �prudent and efficient�.
Nice timing to release this in the middle of the Federal election campaign
Now how about getting some independent experts to analyse and publicly report on the public and private content of the twitter posts of all NBN Communications Staff as to whether they are acceptable.
the NBN company�s initial design for its Fibre to the Node, Basement and HFC cable networks is �prudent and efficient�.
Does nothing to address whether the strategic deployment plan FTTN/B and HFC is the best strategic choice for Australia.
Whether it is consigning Australia to be a Broadband backwater and third world digital nation.
Whether it is a wasted investment compared to other strategic choices and will result in NBNCo running out of funds before it is finished.
prudent and efficient�.
I acknowledge you are just quoting this.
Terms like this need to be quantified when talking about expenditure. If they are not, they are throwaway terms � not worth the paper they are written on.
Well if their IT systems were up to scratch, they could provide an almost "live" system ...
They have all the numbers, targets and actuals, by technology, and they can produce them as and when required. It is inconceivable that they don't. Let's get the blame where it belongs. The government requires them not to produce the numbers.
They might actually question the "big" pre-election "apolitical" announcements...
Turnbull is all the LNP has got. They have to protect his ego reputation public standing brand whatever is left.
Terms like this need to be quantified when talking about expenditure. If they are not, they are throwaway terms � not worth the paper they are written on.
but excellent terms to use to ensure you get more consulting work from an organisation.
I haven't yet read the reports,
was the nbn� brief to the consulting firms published or just their reports?
Using derogatory term's to describe groups of people or individuals via Twitter.
Surely she has breached NBN code of conduct here.
Twitter users who are offended should go to the NBNCo web site and register a formal complaint. Seriously. It will be a laugh if nothing else :)
https://www.accc.gov.au/sys
NBN Co supporting submission
3.4 Changes to incorporate products and services for FTTB, FTTN and
HFC36
Expansion of service description
67. The variation also includes an approach to facilitate incorporation of future network variants. For example, should nbn decide in future that it is in a position to develop and supply services over an FTTdp network, then it could bring such services within the scope of the NBN Co Network by introducing new Products and/or varying existing Products in accordance with the product development provisions of Schedule 1I (in respect of the Initial Regulatory Period) or Schedule 2D (in respect of the Subsequent Regulatory Period). At this stage, however, it would be premature to specifically include FTTdp-based Products (or Products based on any other potential technology variants) into the SAU.
Interesting references to FTTdp
Expanded definition of Premises
71. The variation also includes amendments to the �Premises� definition in Attachment C (Dictionary) to facilitate incorporation of MDU common areas and potentially a range of other locations within the scope of the NBN Access Service (noting that the variation makes Premises part of the description of the NBN Access Service). At this stage, nbn considers that it would be premature to specifically describe these other locations, but should nbn decide in future that it is in a position to develop and supply a Product to a broader range of locations then it could bring such locations within the scope of Premises by introducing the relevant Product in accordance with the product development provisions of Schedule 1I (in respect of the Initial Regulatory Period) or Schedule 2D (in respect of the Subsequent Regulatory Period).
What other locations might they be referring to?
Lamp posts, bus stops, street signs, footbridges, electricity poles, roof tops, mobile base station poles?
Turnbull is all the LNP has got.
That and an Australia flag or too.
God save the nbn..
Can't understand why Labor or Greens or Xenophon does not go for the jugular on this issue. What are they so scared of?
Give it a rest. There are better things to do rather than get worked up over a personal Twitter account
Nothing to see here, it's a personal Twitter account and they can do whatever pleases.
A former ABC journo was bias on their personal Twitter account on the nbn, nothing wrong with that if it's a personal account
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
Nothing to see here, it's a personal Twitter account and they can do whatever pleases.
I think you know that's not true.
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
it's a personal Twitter account and they can do whatever pleases.
karina keisler �
@karinakeisler
Corp Affairs @ nbn .
It's not just a personal account. She uses it to represent nbnco officially . She consistently posts nbn material..
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
... it's a personal Twitter account and they can do whatever pleases ...
A person employed by a Government department, agency or GBE is held responsible for inappropriately commenting directly on their organisation or it's practices on a personal social media account inside or outside of work time. That her derogatory remarks and behaviours go unchecked by nbn� management, the NBN Board and the Government speaks volumes on the lack of professionalism, morals and ethics of the nbn� management, the NBN Board and the Government.
That you support (or at the least do not criticise) Karina Keisler's behaviour, and the tacit support of the nbn� management, the NBN Board and the Government through their inaction to curb her behaviour, tars you GMZT with the same brush.
It's not just a personal account. She uses it to represent nbnco officially . She consistently posts nbn material..
Indeed, and even if its was a personal account with her putting her job description in she is still representing the company she works for.
Some co-existence period stuff in the NBN Co SAU Variation docs.
Are RSP's clearly upfront warning and informing retail customers that VDSL2 line speeds cannot be optimised during the Coexistence Period?
Co-existence Period
['75. nbn has included a new clause 1A.4.4 (and a corresponding new clause 2A.4 in Module 2) setting out a Co-existence Period provision, consistent with the relevant supply terms agreed with access seekers under the WBA, that is relevant to the NBN Co FTTB Network and the NBN Co FTTN Network. The Co-existence Period will typically last for a period of 18 months after the Ready for Service date for each FTTB and FTTN area, but will be extended in some cases until all special services are migrated to the nbnTM network.
.........
During the Co-existence Period for a given area, there will be simultaneous supply of the NBN AccessService by means of the NBN Co FTTB Network or NBN Co FTTN Network and exchange-fed services,special services or other services to Premises using the public switched telecommunications network. To accommodate this, nbn will be required to adjust the operation of its networks by way of a downstream power back-off, which is a technique used to reduce signal strength from the nbn VDSL2 node to the UNI. This means that VDSL2 line speeds cannot be optimised during the Coexistence Period and the new clause 1A.4.4 reflects the effect of this on AVC TC-4 bandwidth profiles in respect of the NBN Co FTTB Network and the NBN Co FTTN Network
1A.4.4 Co-existence Period
During the Co-existence Period, the PIR (and the lower end of any PIR range) at
the UNI for each AVC TC-4 bandwidth profile will be: in respect of the NBN Co FTTB Network (except the 12 Mbps PIR (TC-4) downlink and 1 Mbps PIR (TC-4) uplink bandwidth profile), a minimum of 25 Mbps PIR (TC-4) downlink and 5 Mbps PIR (TC-4) uplink; and
in respect of the NBN Co FTTN Network, a minimum of 12 Mbps PIR (TC-4) downlink and 1 Mbps PIR (TC-4) uplink.
Indeed, and even if its was a personal account with her putting her job description in she is still representing the company she works for.
If I was to post tweets about my employer on my personal account without approval I would be up for disciplinary action.
If I was to post tweets about my employer on my personal account without approval I would be up for disciplinary action.
Yup, why people need to be very careful what they say on social media.
People have been fired from facebook posts.
But seems like Karina can get away what she says.
One day it will bite her in the bum.
http://www.cio.com/artic
maybe someone needs to tweet the link to her.
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
Give it a rest. There are better things to do rather than get worked up over a personal Twitter account
Nothing to see here, it's a personal Twitter account and they can do whatever pleases.
I thought about giving it a rest, but decided to defy your wishes and instead go and take a look into the NBNCo code of conduct.
http://www.nbnco.com
The standards of behaviour set out in the Code of Conduct are expected of employees and contractors both during work hours and whenever your behaviour impacts nbn or your relationship with other employees, contractors or consultants of nbn. This may include, and is not limited to:
........
Activities on social media.
nbn will not tolerate behaviour or activities that impact on nbn and its reputation.
These behaviours and activities may include but are not limited to:
using image-recording devices (such as photocopiers, scanners and cameras) to capture and/or distribute
images of:
? private, classified or copyrighted documents or other material
AFP raid implications
.....
accessing, storing, processing or transmitting any information of a threatening, obscene, pornographic, discriminatory or harassing nature
that would include harassing tweets
activities adversely affecting nbn or its reputation (e.g. making unauthorised public statements about nbn or their position in respect of any matter)
? directly or indirectly engaging in any activity which could by association cause nbn public embarrassment or bring nbn into disrepute (including any activities on social media)
Beep Beep.
failing to comply with the nbn values
The Code of Conduct is based on our nbn values and the principle of respect.
? Respect for each other
? Respect for nbn
? Respect for the broader nbn reputation and environment
Beep
Related policies
Social Media Policy
http://www.nbnco.com.au/cont
When participating in social media other than on behalf of NBN Co, your legal obligations as an employee, consultant or contractor with NBN Co remain the same as they would be in other contexts of your life, even if you believe you are participating anonymously.
GMZ Knockout!
Should an employee, consultant or contractor choose to participate as a private citizen in
social media, they should do so without damaging the reputation of or infringing the
intellectual property rights of NBN Co, its employees, contractors, consultants, customers or suppliers. NBN Co may take reasonable and lawful steps in relation to any use of social
media that is not authorised or in breach of this policy.
And he's down for the count again.
Employees, contractors or consultants can participate in social media that is unrelated to
NBN Co or the NBN as any private citizen would without needing to reference their role at
NBN Co. As with any publicly visible activity, employees of NBN Co should endeavour to
conduct themselves in accordance with NBN Co�s values and in a manner that will not bring
NBN Co into disrepute.
This is getting embarrassing.
be polite to all people they interact with
Ouch. Tha hurts.
If you are unclear about the terms of this policy or whether your actions would breach your obligations do not publish the content and seek advice from your manager or speak to one of the Digital Communication Managers at NBN Co. It is safer for you to exercise caution as you have sole responsibility for what you post and publish online to the global community.
not disparaging NBN Co or any of its employees, clients, business partners,
suppliers or other associates, or make any statement which does, or is likely to,
bring NBN Co or any of these parties into disrepute or ridicule or otherwise affect
their reputations
? being mindful that any published content will probably remain in the public domain
for many years
? being respectful to their audience
Nearly finished.
Breach of this Policy
Failure to comply with this policy may result in NBN Co exercising its rights under a
contractor/consultancy agreement or taking disciplinary action against an employee under
the Managing Performance and Behaviour Policy. This action may include limitation of
access to computer, email and/or the internet, and in serious cases, may result in
termination of employment or your engagement with NBN Co.
Enough said
Was listening to Eddie McGuire's show, The hot breakfast on Triple M this morning.
They had a segment on why your internet speed is slow at certain times of the day.
The tech guy blamed the fttn change and said that Labor had it right with ftth.
Have a listen.
http://www.triplem.co
Apparently Telstra are coming on tomorrow to put their 2 cents in.
Have now:
Perhaps you could also ask for the location of the 'quarterly targets' for the next financial year.
I have not been able to find them on the nbnTM website.
Ziggy claims The company will meet its targets for the ninth quarter in a row.
What were those targets?
How challenging were they? Given the ease with which the annual targets have been met or exceeded this is a valid question.
I have serious concerns that the difficult targets have been pushed into the next election cycle. That represents a waste of at least 2 years, on top of the increased construction and revenue risks associated with the MTM rollout.
Does nothing to address whether the strategic deployment plan FTTN/B and HFC is the best strategic choice for Australia.
The date it was signed of on is significant! ;)
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
Nothing to see here, it's a personal Twitter account and they can do whatever pleases.
Yeah, you are full of it. I know for a fact that NBN Co have sacked employees for what they posted on their personal Twitter account.
NBN Co have a glass jaw and can't take a joke.
The date it was signed of on is significant! ;)
I can just see the headlines in the Tele tomorrow.
"Stop fooling around with Australia's future"
Does nothing to address whether the strategic deployment plan FTTN/B and HFC is the best strategic choice for Australia.
Why is ftth not mentioned?
Perhaps you could also ask for the location of the 'quarterly targets' for the next financial year.
Not much point, she's blocked me :-D
Why is ftth not mentioned
Too inconvenient, would have shown MtM to be the poor value for money we know it is.
1A.4.5 Remediation
If the Line rate at the UNI used to serve a Premises located in the footprint of the NBN Co FTTB Network or NBN Co FTTN Network is not capable of achieving the PIR Objective then:
NBN Co may conduct Remediation in respect of the Premises; and until Remediation for the Premises is completed, the downlink Line rate and uplink Line rate at the UNI used to serve the Premises may be significantly less than the downlink PIR and uplink PIR of the bandwidth profile ordered by the Access Seeker in respect of the Premises.
So if you order up to 25/5 FTTN and your line only sync's at 3/1, you might have to wait on your 3/1 and pay full price at 12/1 rates until nbn gets around to maybe successfully remediating your line.
http://www.itnews.com.au/ne
Strikes me that may be to create the perception that there is an enhancement to MTM that increases the value of nbn and maybe some fool financier will lend them money...snake oil stuff....
In the submission to the ACCC they are looking to restrict them to access seekers only.
So NBN Co are saying to taxpayers thanks for your money now 'faff' off....
Great post politically incorrect
I like those ones when they're used against people who deserve a serve.
Ambitious But Rubbish writes...
One wonders why NBNCo persist employing someone who keeps making the management look bad.
lucky she doesn't work in a bank rather than NBN Co...gone in a flash....
Keisler totally lacks any class or professionalism.
Could be her last professional role.... who would employ someone with such poor people skills....
paid shills, produce perfectly timed eleciton propaganda for the gov
Is there anything suspect about the timing of this request to vary the SAU?
Wait for the election to minimise scrutiny?
@karinakeisler
With FULL rollout soon in view
No need for a full view....what has been seen to date is total failure in process, product and delivery.
Any diversion might be useful, eh? AFP raid , public abuse ....anything but scrutiny of performance
Whether it is consigning Australia to be a Broadband backwater and third world digital nation.
Anyone else getting a sense of sabotage here.... at least when Sol and his crew got out of order they was sent on their way...
Turnbull is all the LNP has got. They have to protect his ego reputation public standing brand whatever is left.
Diminishing daily not only with the Bishop backing today after crucifying Feeney for identical faux pas � double standards but the FTTN MTM is a disaster evident in threads where FTTN is being rolled out
http://www.computerworld.com
(Fibre to the distribution point � FTTdp � will also potentially be used, NBN has said.)
Uh... If they didn't accept it last year what makes people think they'll accept it now? Its their "silver parachute" (i refuse to use golden because golden is FTTP only and they'll never do that) to try and steal steam some peoples vote who demand proper NBN and not his MTM crap. And even if they did use it, I actually wonder how many people would be put on it... Just another broken promise if it ever does get put in this document
Slightly off topic
http://www.dailytelegraph.co
We should fear the god damn future and if this is the crap they keep sprouting. A smart man would learn from the past and predict whats needed for the future, and we need proper NBN. How is he still Malcolms right hand man
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2
Arthur Sinodinos to seek political donation reform if Coalition re-elected
Why am i not surprised? I think this just validates what his been sprouting has been crap. Bowen put it nicely.
"Good luck getting that through your party room, Arthur," he said.
Mr Bowen said Labor would continue to push for a more transparent donations system.
"The threshold should be $1,000," he said. "We have consistently moved that in Parliament and been blocked at every turn.
"I would hope that Arthur would vote for it next time, given he's just expressed a personal view."
No surprises if Sinodinos wanted the exact opposite
http://www.computerworld.com
Another analysis was prepared by Analysys Mason, which was engaged by Webb Henderson on NBN�s behalf.
No surprise that it says � The analysis also says that the copper network should based on data provided by Telstra and NBN modelling, be capable of meeting the government�s download speed targets (25 megabits per second to 100 per cent of premises, and, further down the track, 50Mbps to 90 per cent of premises).
Should � really !!! You have to laugh (or cry) to that statement !!
Not much point, she's blocked me :-D
Did she block you after you replied to her on Twitter?
@karinakeisler did you think we didn't notice #nbn are trying to do away with the annual updates, and keep the three year plans secret?
http://www.nbnco.com.au/deve
This is getting ridiculous.
The new format nbn rollout mapping looks like it has been designed to ensure that it is even harder than before to try and determine the geographic extent of the mix of MTM technology rollouts from
1. Having a Show service type button default to Off.
2. When you turn the Show service type button to On, the Fixed Line v Fixed Wireless are both exactly the same color. With only a "pattern" as a differentiator
(a) Fixed line = very thin diagonal lines in a light shade of color with the original darker color as fill
(b) Fixed wireless = circle and cross pattern in a light color with the original darker color as a fill
Because of the use of exactly the same color for Fixed line and Fixed wireless, when you pan out over an area, the difference between the Fixed line and fixed wireless is impossible to detect on even a top of the range iMac 27 retina screen.
No surprises if Sinodinos wanted the exact opposite
Parallels to Turnbull and his agility and innovation push, in contrast to the legacy he will leave behind with his preferred strategic choice for his Government's NBN/MTM model.
there may be constraints in the manner in which nbn may utilise the MTM network in the future (e.g. nbn will need to continue to support the provision of Foxtel�s pay-TV services over the Telstra HFC network).
Nice for Telstra and News Corp.
Why is ftth not mentioned?
It probably was but because there are no issues with it there was nothing to report. The number of pages attributed to FTTN and HFC is a clear testament to the many risks that need to be considered and addressed in the report.
This report does not examine the merits of the specifications given by the Australian Government to nbn at a policy level that have an impact on the design of the network. Rather, this report examines the key choices or decisions that have been made by nbn in the design of its network within the overall parameters that have been established by the Australian Government at a policy level through its SoE.
Stop right there.
Scope alert.
Options for future capacity upgrades
? Although nbn does not currently have a detailed roadmap for upgrading the FTTN/FTTB network,
the options it is considering appear to be prudent, being in line with other operators internationally.
The use of the word "appear", materially waters down the degree of prudency.
The following options for upgrading its network would be available to nbn in the future:
� exploiting the evolving xDSL standards, and potentially using G.fast technology
� using the 30a frequency profile for VDSL2, which extends the spectrum available from
17MHz to 30MHz
� extending the distribution fibre network to reduce the copper loop length (e.g. by
deploying FTTdp architecture)
� using other technologies coexisting and overlapping in the MTM network
� upgrading to FTTP.
The options available to nbn are also likely to achieve efficient outcomes as it is based on an incremental upgrade of the existing network rather than deploying new infrastructure, thereby maximising the use of, and the investment return on, existing assets.
? We have not identified any concerns regarding the way that the FTTN/FTTB network is
designed which would prevent efficient and prudent upgrades being made to increase network capacity to address future demand.
Too important to leave to one consulting firm to provide an opinion. 2nd and 3rd opinions required.
? nbn�s ability to undertake upgrades will be dependent to some extent on the outcome of the current Communications Alliance process that seeks to deal with interference issues caused by the co-existence of different xDSL systems. Resolving these issues at the industry level will be important as interference may become a greater issue when FTTN/FTTB networks are upgraded to new xDSL technologies (e.g. G.fast provided over FTTdp) that will increasingly rely on vectoring to deliver their full potential in terms of bandwidth and return on investment.']
So in other words, an upgradeable network might be incongruent with wholesale competition. Leaving the network in the hands of only one wholesaler (i.e nbn or Telstra) as the only way to upgrade the network?
Or leaving those MDU's where NBNCo has allowed competing wholesale fixed line infrastructure or deliberately installed it's equipment in competition with the likes of TPG FTTB, in a position where they can't upgrade unless the Body Corporate agrees to somehow decommission all residents from one of the competing wholesale providers over time.
nbn�s decision to terminate the wholesale service at the wall plate is prudent, and in line with other operators internationally
Why prudent to do this for FTTN/B but not for HFC. Please explain.
If you are unclear about the terms of this policy or whether your actions would breach your obligations do not publish the content and seek advice from your manager or speak to one of the Digital Communication Managers at NBN Co.
The irony is that I would assume that Karina as the ?Executive General Manager Corporate Affairs at nbn Australia probably holds that position or equivalent level.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who watches the watchers?
Could be her last professional role.... who would employ someone with such poor people skills....
Ummm ....... the LNP.
there is currently insufficient data available on the condition of the CAN to be able
to evaluate how much remedial and augmentation work will be required. Depending on the local condition of the CAN, if the extent of remedial and augmentation work is significantly different from what has been allowed for, then this may potentially raise cost issues from both a capex and opex perspective. However, as the network roll-out proceeds, further real data regarding the condition of the CAN will become available which may enable nbn to change its strategy to reduce its costs.
Like changing it's strategy to offer Satellite or Mobile Broadband as a fixed line substitute if the condition of the CAN and the required remedial and augmentation work required becomes an issue?
Hang on a minute. Back in March, Morrow was saying the copper was in better condition than expected. Now we have a handpicked by nbn consultant saying there is insufficient data available on the condition of the CAN ...... WTF
http://www.theregister.co.uk
nbn, the organisation building Australia's National Broadband Network, says the copper network it acquired from Telstra requires less remediation than it budgeted for.
At a press briefing today the nbn CEO Bill Morrow said he ordered a review of the state of the copper network.
�I had a team do a survey of pits out there,� he said. �They said on a per cent basis that the per cent [of copper requiring remediation] is almost half what we estimated.�
nbn has set aside funds for copper remediation, he added, and is currently �so far under budget on remediation compared to what the strategic review called for.�
And even if nbn's copper survey picked a poor sample of the network and remediation costs rise, Morrow said �there is a lot of buffer even if we are wrong in our estimates of the copper remediation.�
They seriously think all dissenting criticisms are from deluded "fanbois", not from professionals with decades of experience in the field.
Interestingly (or perhaps ironically � I'm never sure if I'm using that word correctly) former board member Simon Hackett ended a slide deck back in early 2013 (from memory) with a mocked up newspaper article showing Prime Minister Turnbull announcing FTTP as the Liberal party's policy for the 2016 election...
Edit: found it � https://simonhackett.files.wo
Ok let's look in the Apple Store to see if there are any Apps in the NBN Store for you and me to get info from?
They made an app, they just limited it to nbn� employees looking up information for friends and family.
Ultimately, the extension of the fibre access network will result in an FTTP network, where fibre is deployed all the way to the customer premises.
That won't please those wireless fanbois that think that fixed line networks will go the way of the dodo soon.
The upgrade path chosen by a particular operator will depend on a combination of:
? current passive and active network characteristics, in particular, the length and condition of
existing copper loops
? requirements by governments/national regulatory authorities to support infrastructure sharing
? end-user demand for increased peak and sustained bandwidth
? retailers� response to market competitive pressures
? availability of funds and appetite for long-term capital investment.
Upgrades are not likely to be uniformly applied across networks as the operators will have to consider the distribution of copper loops in their network to formulate the optimum technoeconomic upgrade strategy (i.e. balancing performance and cost).
Overall, we believe that FTTN/FTTB networks have a technically feasible, incremental upgrade path to keep up with market demand for bandwidth, but maximum performance may be compromised by infrastructure-sharing requirements, unless a technology (e.g. advanced vectoring system) aimed at mitigating interference between different systems is developed in the near future.
Technically feasible, but possibly financial unfeasible?
This calls for costing of upgrades of FTTN/B to FTTP as part of the nbn MTM costings.
Genetic Modified Zealot writes...
Give it a rest.
You should follow your own advice Zealot...nothing to see here ....hahahahahahahaha!! Give it a rest....
Making your post relevant to NBN and on topic...there is so much policy failure to see with FTTN MTM...twitter or no twitter...
CiC Redactions on p112 in the section titled
Assessment of nbn�s decisions
Analysys Mason�s assessment of nbn�s network selection methodology
Maybe related to the FTTN v FTTB issue, where nbn has put itself in competition with the likes of TPG? And does not to reveal to either the public, the opposition, or TPG and other potential wholesale competitors, just how little FTTB and how much FTTN it is actually planning to role out under it's MTM model (in my uninformed join the dots (as opposed to receiving leaks) opinion)
If I was to post tweets about my employer on my personal account without approval I would be up for disciplinary action.
Wasn't there a couple of public servants (?) hammered for that just recently? rules for some...not others....
https://twitter.com/karinak
karina keisler Retweeted
Gary McLaren ?@gmclwill 12h12 hours ago
No argument with this slide from Bill Morrow � Aus #NBN is very unique. #CommunicAsia2016
The image with this tweet is enormously embarrassing. Surely NBN Co is not trying to focus on the asian market for funding ...hilariously 'funny' (strange?) but so embarrassing....
using the 30a frequency profile for VDSL2, which extends the spectrum available from
17MHz to 30MHz
This shits me the most.
Upgrade to 30a when the newest profile is 35b.
With Alcatel-Lucent�s Vplus products, service providers can deliver enhanced ultra-broadband speeds over their existing copper infrastructure. The portfolio includes:
Line cards (NDLT-J/K) for the widely deployed 7302 ISAM FD-16 and 7330 ISAM FD-8 shelves with Vplus (35b) and VDSL2 (17a) support.
Existing System Level Vectoring processor cards (NDPS-B) can be reused for Vplus 7302 ISAM FD-16 and 7330 ISAM FD-8 shelves.
FFS they have no planning for the future or current tech at all. Just pulling stuff from articles and putting it in their documents to look good.
MT � Hitler
NBN � German Generals � "Following orders"
Don't know who I dislike the most.
I thought about giving it a rest, but decided to defy your wishes and instead go and take a look into the NBNCo code of conduct.
The simple question is ...is anyone 'running' NBN Co?
This NBN Co code of conduct has been breached by KK on many instances over a long period of time. Perhaps Morrow is 'beholden' to KK if he upsets her....Abbott and Credlin parallel?
The same fate can't come soon enough....
The culture within NBN Co must be so strained and at breaking point for leaks and failure of fundamental process to be so prevalent.... not to mention the total failure to deliver a National Broadband Network.
Is it just coincidence that since Turnbull has moved to PM role things are running totally amock... how much hands on did Turnbull actually have seems a fair question....
Ziggy claims The company will meet its targets for the ninth quarter in a row.
What were those targets?
How challenging were they? Given the ease with which the annual targets have been met or exceeded this is a valid question.
Telstra have raised the issue by claiming to be $3B short on payments from NBN Co...only one reason for that....poor performance due to lack of build
Can someone on twitter ask Karina why they are thinking of upgrading to 30a or g.fast when vplus is the better, newer standard. ?
https://www.alcatel-lucent.com/solutions/vplus
Lovely infograph on that page comparing 17a, g.fast and vplus.
Ziggy claims The company will meet its targets for the ninth quarter in a row.
What were those targets?
Clare, Conroy, a key Clare staffer, Labor, fanbois, Fibre Zealots, at least 1 AFP raid to try and find the leak that killed Nemo, reality, and an increasing use of CiC as an excuse to decrease transparency.
Can someone on twitter ask Karina why they are thinking of upgrading to 30a or g.fast when vplus is the better, newer standard. ?
https://www.alcatel-lucent.com/solutions/vplus
Another reason why the investment in FTTN under the current design plan is a waste and likely worth a fraction of the cost invested in it by the time it is completed. Worse still, it is leaving itself exposed to being made even more worthless by it's inferiority compared to other technologies that can overbuild it, rendering it more a liability than an asset, and a complete and utter waste of AUS$B that will destroy the professional reputations of many of those that openly supported it or blindly accepted it as the best solution, when reality was not only staring them in the face, but being discussed and dismissed day in day out for years around the world by 1000's of technical experts.
Telstra have raised the issue by claiming to be $3B short on payments from NBN Co...only one reason for that....poor performance due to lack of build
In support of my statement ...from NBN Cannington thread
I have tried to quote a portion of this however apparently I am quoting too much...for whatever reason no attempt to lessen it works
Whose gift?
Obviously timed to election cycle perfection.
Communications Minister Mitch Fifield had reason to celebrate on Tuesday when a relatively low-key release from the competition regulator included positive independent endorsement of the government's NBN strategy.
This was a political gift that is likely to overshadow the imminent release of Labor's broadband policy which many believe will involve a return to the party's gold-plated "all fibre network".
This was a political gift that is likely to overshadow the imminent release of Labor's broadband policy which many believe will involve a return to the party's gold-plated "all fibre network".
On the attack before the policy even comes out....what do they know?
Bring it on. The more consultants reports released the more focus on the NBN/MTM.
http://www.computerworld.com
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