There's about 100,000 ppl in Belconnen, 25 suburbs, so if you just did poor math, about 4k per suburb and (I'm guessing here) about 1500 houses at most on average per suburb, so I am thinking 15+ actual suburbs covered in the 'scullin' suburb
Which would probably amount to most of the suburbs south of ginninderra drive (Again I am guessing)
Please don't shoot holes in the math, it's speculation.
Why guess? Go to mynbn.info and you can see that Scullin incorporates the suburbs of:
Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham, Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence, Weetangera and Charnwood.
So as I said above basically the areas served by the Telstra exchanges of Scullin and Melba.
Belconnen covers Belconnen, Bruce, Cook, Giralang, Kaleen, Lyneham, Macquarie, O'Connor, Aranda (this one I find odd as they had started work on it before the last election, but now 'missing')
Civic covers Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, City, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor, Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson, Acton, which is a lot of what has already been done in the City area plus the areas that were covered by the development application discussed a few pages back.
Crace covers Crace, Franklin, Gungahlin, Harrison, Mitchell, Ngunnawal, Nicholls, Palmerston, Watson and Amaroo. Only Nicholls in this area. In the wider Gungahlin area the missing link is still parts of Casey, which are under the Bonner FSA.
So really the only part missing in North Canberra under what has been announced or built this far is the "Belconnen" FSA area and parts of Bonner.
My understanding is that Evatt, Melba and possibly Spence and Scullin were cabled by Transact, but never completed. I have cable running past my house that literally isn't connected to anything.
It's extremely low hanging fruit for NBNco to pick and get a quick win from with VDSL2. I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to see these suburbs served by the Scullin exchange to be first cab off the rank.
This is a list of Canberra suburbs with Transact VDSL. So yeah Melba and Spence are not on the list but Scullin is.
AINSLIE
ARANDA
BARTON
BELCONN
BRADDON
BRUCE
CAMPBELL
CH
CHIFLEY
CITY/CIVIC
CUR
DEAKIN
DICKSON
DOWNER
DU
FARRER
FISHER
FORREST
FY
GARRAN
GIRALANG
GREEN
GRIFFITH
HACKETT
HAWKER
HOLDER
HOLT
HUGHES
K
KAMBAH
KINGSTON
LATHAM
LYNEHAM
LYONS
MACGREGOR
MAW
MITCHELL
MONASH
NARRABUN
OCONNOR
OXLEY
PEARCE
PHILLIP
PIALLIGO
RED HILL
REID
RIVETT
SCULLIN
STIRL
SYMONSTON
TORRENS
TURNER
WANNIASSA
WARAMANGA
WATSON
WESTON
YARRALUMLA
Mate im connected to monash exchange because i live in calwell and there is no vdsl in this suburb !!
And where i live there is no vdsl too
I'm also in holt outside of the transact service area.
I'm also in holt outside of the transact service area.
Yeah golf course estate isn't on it. No where did I say that every street and house in the suburbs had Transact, just that those were the suburbs where it was installed.
Mate im connected to monash exchange because i live in calwell and there is no vdsl in this suburb !!
And where i live there is no vdsl too
Who said their was? Look at the list and umm no Calwell is there? Also this Transact list is for suburbs, not exchange areas. Besides Transact not using Telstra copper the Telstra exchange area is not relevant anyway.
Belconnen covers Belconnen, Bruce, Cook, Giralang, Kaleen, Lyneham, Macquarie, O'Connor, Aranda (this one I find odd as they had started work on it before the last election, but now 'missing')
I thought Giralang and Kaleen were serviced by the Crace exchange?
did nbnco buy the transact vdsl network in all this suburbs ?
did nbnco buy the transact vdsl network in all this suburbs
Nope, they brought the FIBRE network not the VDSL. If they had of brought the VDSL wouldn't you think they would be marketed as NBN already?
I thought Giralang and Kaleen were serviced by the Crace exchange?
Telstra and NBN FSA (exchange) areas are different. So yes they are on Crace for telephony but Belconnen for NBN. Just like the areas serviced by Melba for telephony are part of Scullin for NBN.
But may well change because the suburbs per FSA were for fibre to the premiss. But doubt it though as there is no real correlation between Telstra exchange areas and NBN fibre service areas even using FTTN.
ABS Census data can tell you how many houses in a suburb.
Scullin has 1,259 private dwellings.
Will it be possible for houses with FTTN access to get FTTP installed at a later date? Id assume we would have to hire somone at a considerable cost?
or are we stuck with what we are given?
Telstra and NBN FSA (exchange) areas are different. So yes they are on Crace for telephony but Belconnen for NBN. Just like the areas serviced by Melba for telephony are part of Scullin for NBN.
I see, I didn't know that. I assume the exchanges on the NBN Co report are all NBN FSA's? In that case the only suburb within Crace's FSA without NBN at the moment is Nicholls?
Will it be possible for houses with FTTN access to get FTTP installed at a later date? Id assume we would have to hire somone at a considerable cost?
or are we stuck with what we are given?
I suppose this is good news despite not being ideal.
Apparently you can pay to get it done when they are cabling your suburb. My assumption would be it will be cheaper to get it done while they are doing the FTTN install. However they really haven't indicated any costs yet. Just that it would be similar to British Telecom so I've seen figures of $2k-5k for a residential suburb.
I'm wondering if a suburb could petition to be on fibre guaranteeing a high take up rate whether they'd do it. I'm guessing under the current government there is no chance. Although I have read that councils can request FTTP and pay for it, so i'm thinking unless there was a significant discount achievable by getting say a street or suburb agreeing to FTTP, there is no chance at least until the 2016 election.
I see, I didn't know that. I assume the exchanges on the NBN Co report are all NBN FSA's? In that case the only suburb within Crace's FSA without NBN at the moment is Nicholls?
That's correct the NBN areas are NBN FSA's, not Telstra exchange areas. It just so happens that some areas correlate, some don't. For exmaple Scullin is an exact overlap of the existing Scullin Telstra exchange area, plus an exact overlap of the Melba Telstra exchange area.
With Crace, correct, Nicholls is the only bit to be added which is why the number of new homes added in 'Crace' is 1300. Interestingly when just checking the exact number, I notice NBN now refers to Gungahlin rather than Crace.
BTW, found another document that refers to the technologies that will be used. The interesting one for Crace and Nicholls is confirmation it will be ONLY FTTP.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/cont
Makes sense considering the underlying technology deployment principles document.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/cont
I am on http://www.mynbn.info/fsa/9SCU in terms of the NBN is there anymore info about what type of NBN will be installed if any?
I am on http://www.mynbn.info/fsa/9SCU in terms of the NBN is there anymore info about what type of NBN will be installed if any?
See document link in my post above. But will save you and say Scullin confirmed to be multi technology. Then refer to the technologies document you will see they will install what ever makes sense for the given area. So could be FTTP but more than likely FTTN.
Cheers for that so 23,100 in that area hmm I wonder how many are in the area total?
So is NBN available in Belconnen now i.e. near the belconnen library?
The latest doc says service available.
http://nbnco.com.au/content/
Odd, they're probably getting it because they're not complaining about the current speeds.
User 565319 writes...
This just 'might' explain what's being done along southern cross drive (which I have now seen as close to Belconnen as the middle off Florey (more or less opposite the split in Scullin/Page)
There has been other work going on for months elsewhere too. I reported some conduit run from Dunlop under the HT powerlines towards the new part of Macgregor months back. Since then never seen any cable go in or any work along it despite driving it daily.
Doubt it was for the Macgregor greenfields because the greenfields part already had NBN installed. That was provided by a conduit that for some reason I still cannot work out went up Osburn Drive towards the hill and then along Florey Drive. Only thing I can think with the Dunlop to Macgregor conduit is because Dunlop is off Melba for Telstra telephony the Telstra conduits go down Gininderra Drive towards Melba exchange. But for NBN it will be off Scullin FSA. So the conduit provides a good connection from Scullin to Dunlop. It was a fair old size too, my reckoning at least 100mm.
The bit that confuses me at the moment is the possible inclusion of Greenway in the Kambah FSA.
Unless they are only doing one side of the lake (or just everything north of the dam)
They have to look at Bonython (and others?) As they hang off the Greenway exchange??
The Northern part of Greenway (ie all the residential area) near Kambah actually hangs off the Kambah exchange and not the Tuggeranong exchange. It kind of makes more sense now why nobody would put a DSLAM intuggeranong, because its basically Bonython and the Hyperdome, so there was no commercial interest for residential internet. sure more apartments are going in as well.
how this matches up to the FSA's I don't know though.
The Northern part of Greenway (ie all the residential area) near Kambah actually hangs off the Kambah exchange and not the Tuggeranong exchange.
Sort of makes sense, as I guess Tuggeranong didn't exist when Greenway was started.
["Sort of makes sense, as I guess Tuggeranong didn't exist when Greenway was started."]
Although Tuggeranong exchange existed long before anything was built there. From memory it was there when Gowrie and Fadden were being built, certainly no Oxley as we used to have bonfires on what is now Oxley and fireworks. But the exchange was there as the road to Pine island went past the exchange. It was the only building on a grassy plain! I'm guessing the exchange was used for the rural properties? or was built in anticipation, as many things in those days were (Drakeford drive was 3 lines from the start!)
Although Tuggeranong exchange existed long before anything was built there. From memory it was there when Gowrie and Fadden were being built, certainly no Oxley as we used to have bonfires on what is now Oxley and fireworks. But the exchange was there as the road to Pine island went past the exchange. It was the only building on a grassy plain! I'm guessing the exchange was used for the rural properties? or was built in anticipation, as many things in those days were (Drakeford drive was 3 lines from the start!)
Good memory. Im surprised they still have the building there, they would have been better off putting some CMUX units at greenway and hyperdome, and leased that space/building � saving themselves some running costs.
If I recall in the new bonython development, there was initial talks of TransACT providing infrastructure to the area, but I presume they didnt/lost the bid with the developer.
I am interested to what infrastructure is being used for the lake tuggeranong developments though. FTTB? FTTP?
Hey guys,
I'm at a loss.
Where can I find out the maps and dates of roll out in the ACT?
Also, is the current roll out map up to date or are there regions that are connected but not shown on the map?
I thought there was an announcement recently about updated roll out maps but can't find it.
What's the best way to know whether X street will be covered by future roll out?
Where can I find out the maps and dates of roll out in the ACT?
NBNco have maps where you can search for a house, but none of the areas announced the other week are currently on there. They said it would take a few weeks.
NBNco have maps where you can search for a house, but none of the areas announced the other week are currently on there. They said it would take a few weeks.
even then I guess it wont be telling people much more than they already know.
With the rollout timeframe, I guess they have alot of staff trained, capital equipment ready, deployment processes tweaked, to get work started to dump nodes around the place within the dates specified. I guess they have had a year to do all this, running in parallel to the 'trial'. Quite ambitious.
I moved into the new Linq appartments opposite cisac in belco two weeks ago, the Nbn boxes are all installed etc but am having no luck with Nbnco or iinet connecting them � originally the problem was � and I beleive still is because that the side I am on is situated at a completely new street.
I've given them everything under the sun in regards to info � it is meant to be connected now, but still no bingo.
That's interesting, please keep us posted on progress. We've bought in A Block, settling next month or Feb.
I moved into the new Linq appartments opposite cisac in belco two weeks ago
are you renting?
i'm a buyer and not moved in as they havent even called settlement yet because the unit plan havent been registered yet � apparently... and until that happens i dont think the address even exists....
Yeah at the moment I'm renting � was looking at buying until it was revelaved (not publicly) that Geocon have bought the land at the back of the labour club car pack to build another block of appartments � which would block out the view of the 7th floor appartment I was going to buy.
But yeah � the place is in shambles. I've had nearly 600 dollars worth of Xmas gifts sent back to the sender as the address didn't exist.
Not only was NBN advertised but I was promised connection on the day I moved in.
Apparently the building managers have tested the connection with Telstra but the plans with them are through the roof. I've given them the location ID, NTD number (a sticker on the box) and the serial number. Which helped them find it, though it was registered to college street. Rather than veryard lane (new street)
But even though it is apparently activated still no luck.
Getting really sick of the 'wait 24-48 hours and if it's still not working call back' crap.
I am interested to what infrastructure is being used for the lake tuggeranong developments though. FTTB? FTTP?
Given the costs and the buyers they are aiming at, I'd find it hard to believe its not FTTB or FTTP, either of which would be fine. I'm kind of hoping that townhouse complexes get treated as FTTB with their own nodes, but I know that is wishful thinking (as I'm in a townhouse complex!). Maybe they we can pay to have FTTB for a much cheaper cost than say FTTP to the townhouse.
All I can hope for is a better policy from Labor with a future of upgrading everything. It amazes me that the liberals are trying to use everything and anything to save money, no matter how poor the infrastructure is, but they'll buy a new car every few years under salary sacrificing rules they won't get rid of.
Geocon's Wayfarer 27 storeys 235 apartments and 96 hotel rooms is not in the Labor Club carpark � but across Eastern Valley Way behind the Church and McDonalds. This was mentioned on the RiotACT on 1 November 2013, when it was announced as being reduced from 35 soreys to 27.
Or are you talking about some other Geocon development.
Wayfarer won't block views from Linq directly to the north. The Labor Club wants to build an 11 storey hotel on the corner of Chandler St and Cameron Avenue near the Labor Club � mentioned in the Canberra Times on 24 October 2013, this also won't affect direct north views from Linq.
Sorry, wasn't talking about the wayfarer.
Though the hotel could possibly be what my friend was talking about though he was adamant whatever it was would block out Linq views. The linq is only 7 stories high, though with high ceilings and the Veryard Lane side being slightly higher than the Eastern Valley Way side.
In other news I still don't have any internet.
No one can provide me with the service as it isn't installed correctly, I don't know ACT renting laws too well but as it is an infastructure problem, even though thw service was marketed to me when applying and signing for the place
Been nearly six calendar weeks and my phone data bill is through the roof!
which ISP did u go with? I'm moving into building B on the 9th and will probably stay with iinet, hope it doesnt take that long... :/
I'm with iiNet too, the bloke handling my case at the fibre team is great but the problem isn't really with iiNet its that it probably hasn't been installed properly. When plugged in they can see it through their system that it is either a Mac or my wifi modem but no data can come in.
NBNco. Have been useless.
why they added crace suburb to list in 2016 plan and its already all of crace suburb in purple color and they got the nbn !
why they added crace suburb to list in 2016 plan and its already all of crace suburb in purple color and they got the nbn !
Because that was not a list of SUBURBS that was put out rather a list of FIBRE SERVICE AREA's. You only need to look at the numbers to see that, for example Scullin 23000 homes.
So whilst you are right Crace the suburb has NBN, there are still parts left in the Crace FSA that aren't, basically Nicholls. Oh and your gonna love this the remainder of the Crace FSA is going to be FTTP.
Nbn in rollout in canberra should be very fast because canberra is a small state amd the population is max 350000 poeple live there , so nbnco cam finish it quikly but the liberal party slowed it like snail because cannerra support labor party amd they have dont punishment like this for canberrans
heaps of people they r buying apartment in tuggeranong south quay because all the apartments will get nbn
heaps of people they r buying apartment in tuggeranong south quay because all the apartments will get nbn
We look forward to you buying and moving there User 565319.
Looks like there's quite a lot of people in the same boat in Braddon � cabling from basement to apartments are done (small box above doors) and there's pretty yellow fibre marked NBN Co in the basement, been there since last year to boot.
Then there are newer buildings like Habitat, where NBN checker says it's available, but the service providers disagree.
To those of you on Henty St � you guys aren't the only ones wondering where's your NBN. Most on Northbourne Ave and Mort St are wondering the same thing.
I'm starting to wonder if the November copper cut off date is going to be well, cutting it a little close.
Most FDAs are also still inactive too for 9CVI-01. The wait is so frustrating. I wonder if the entire area will be serviceable prior to the copper cut off?
On a different note, if I wanted a "cheap" apartment purely for NBN, I'd go for Gungahlin over Tuggers. South Quay isn't even all that cheap comparatively.
its good that tuggers project will get nbn so the exchange will be full of fibre and people will ask for it who lives in tuggeranong valley
its good that tuggers project will get nbn so the exchange will be full of fibre and people will ask for it who lives in tuggeranong valley
All exchanges will end up being full fibre, because the copper is only going to run to nodes on the streets. They say their will be an upgrade path. by the time I get an option to request FTTP we'll have another government and most likely a different party running the country.
its good that tuggers project will get nbn so the exchange will be full of fibre and people will ask for it who lives in tuggeranong valley
Sorry to burst your bubble, but when they do a greenfields apartment development in an area that doesn't otherwise have NBN they don't run fibre to elsewhere. So the 'exchange' is not full of fibre, there is fibre from that FSA (they are not exchanges) to that development, that's it.
Also not quite sure if this is true, but was also told by someone who knows NBN pretty well that when they do developments like this one they may not actually install NBN gear in the nominal "exchange", instead they temporarily go to another exchange that already has NBN gear. And only when the original FSA starts too grow do they then put in the gear required to fully support the FSA.
i wish labor win next election , but the government in ACT is labor so why the roll out is slow ! why the fttn technology will be in ACT if the ACT government is already labor here , they can stop malcolm and refuse fttn to ACT and complete the normal rollout , i wish labor win next election and get FTTP
i wish labor come back and fix all malcolm mess
ye from 6 years we got mail about transact fttp and we accepted it , and we didnt get it !
when they said there will be upgrade to fttp ? and they will ask people if they wanna it ? can u post a link ?
nothing clear about fibre on demand if u got fibre to the node !!!
i guess in 5 years all canberra will get at least 100mbps
i wish labor win next election , but the government in ACT is labor so why the roll out is slow ! why the fttn technology will be in ACT if the ACT government is already labor here , they can stop malcolm and refuse fttn to ACT and complete the normal rollout , i wish labor win next election and get FTTP
ACT legislative assembly has no impact, and nothing to do with the federally funded and run NBN Program of works.
You need to understand contracts have been signed, and design work started. This has been going on since the current federal government got in.
i guess in 5 years all canberra will get at least 100mbps
Im not sure about your timing there, however I do agree � the takeup in the ACT is the best in any capital city � so there could be a probability, from a business sense, that ACT will get services in this magnitude � if the rollout becomes de-politicised and is run like a business enterprise............
the contracts has been signed so i was on the map . where is the nbn ? where i live should start from may 2014 ! how liberal party canceled the contracts !
the contracts has been signed so i was on the map . where is the nbn ? where i live should start from may 2014 ! how liberal party canceled the contracts !
They didn't cancel contracts. The map under labor was ambitious and not a reflection of contracts that had been signed.
I think most people have gotten over the fact that we won't be getting fibre to the home for free. It has been well over a year now.
As I said before, Canberra is a good market for it, and *eventually* the market will be driven by demand and this is where the ACT may benefit in this regard.
so in ACT i can get fibre on demand like what said max 10 grands?
i dont mind to wait for fttp but we need a date man , no date on the map or anything , i have been waiting already 5 years now
i have been waiting already 5 years now
Youv'e been waiting for 5 years! Nothing compared to me. I was supposed to be on a trial fibre in the early to mid 90's. Telstra was privatised and the trial was cancelled. I got NBN 18 months ago so I waited 19 years!
User 565319 � you are not going to get NBN in the near future, so all you complaints in all the forums in Whirlpool will not bring it on faster. To get NBN sooner than later you need to move to an apartment in Tuggeranong South Quay or anywhere in a purple area http://tinyurl.com/mbeoxsj
Looks like there's quite a lot of people in the same boat in Braddon � cabling from basement to apartments are done (small box above doors) and there's pretty yellow fibre marked NBN Co in the basement, been there since last year to boot.
Then there are newer buildings like Habitat, where NBN checker says it's available, but the service providers disagree.
To those of you on Henty St � you guys aren't the only ones wondering where's your NBN. Most on Northbourne Ave and Mort St are wondering the same thing.
Oh well, at least we can all suffer together!
Did you see my previous post with the link to ACT planning? I'm speculating (based on some of the posts in this thread) that the usual fibre trunk in the area may not have enough capacity to handle the high density of MDUs around these few blocks, and maybe this new run of (what I'm assuming is) trunk fibre might be supplementing that..?
Today, I also saw Transact digging up the nature strip on the corner bit of Henty street right where the Vail is � they've dug up right near one of the sort of oval shaped Telstra pits but I couldn't really tell what they're doing (just lots of exposed pipe and a fenced off trench), and I can't seem to find any 'planned works' info on the Transact site, so not sure if it's related or not.
the nbn will come for all canberra in 2016 , they will do just 4 exchanges , kambah , scullin , crace , stop talking that it will not come , it will come even if u dont like it
the nbn will come for all canberra in 2016 , they will do just 4 exchanges , kambah , scullin , crace , stop talking that it will not come , it will come even if u dont like it
NBN will not come for all of Canberra in 2016. You yourself listed where it was announced, quite clearly that is not all of Canberra. Also the post didn't say it will not come, it will, but as he said not in the near future. You will only know when the deep south will get it when it is announced.
I, and I can see several others are getting sick of you coming on hear bleating all the time about not having it. Simple fact is Tuggeranong and the south of Canberra is just like the rest of the country and in having a need for NBN. It cannot be rolled out overnight, it takes time and rightly or wrongly the deep south was down the list. You have been delayed by change of government and change of plans (like everyone else too), so just suck it up and stop the constant bleating.
I, and I can see several others are getting sick of you coming on hear bleating
so just suck it up and stop the constant bleating.
+1
I, and I can see several others are getting sick of you coming on hear bleating all the time about not having it.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Simple fact is Tuggeranong and the south of Canberra is just like the rest of the country and in having a need for NBN.
Not understanding the selection process in why quangers got it before more densely populated areas (ie, pretty much anywhere in Canberra) from a business perspective. I mean if it's a revenue generator, roll it out where you're going to get the biggest returns soonest ?
Maybe I am missing something (other than a fibre connection)
Maybe I am missing something (other than a fibre connection)
You're assuming that the NBNco is being run free from political interference and is making decisions in the best interests of it's own goals.
Quangers is in a swing seat, both of Canberra's seats are safe Labor.
If they were actually going for revenue, Gungahlin demonstrated that Canberrans will get onboard the fibre train as quickly as possible if it's offered.
For non locals � Quangers is an old nickname for Queanbeyan, along with Struggle Town
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maybe they will start nbn for all tuggeranong valley from 2018
Guess it will start sometime in 20xx along with the older parts of Canberra and Belconnen. In the meantime life goes on.
canberra is the smallest state in australia , so nbn will not take so long , look to blacktown ! they will finish it soon , and canberra is nothing compare to blacktown size lol , you need to wait for malcolm order for nbnco to accelerate the rollout , because right now they stopped the brownfield rollout in all australia
canberra is the smallest state in australia
Canberra is NOT a state,it is a territory.
you need to wait for malcolm order for nbnco
Why not trot down to the big white building with the flag pole, on Capitol Hill, and have a quick word with Malcolm. I am sure he will say 'no problem'.
i mean ACT is the smallest state
User 565319...
i mean ACT is the smallest state
The ACT is NOT a state, like the Northern Territory it is a Territory.
mate when you send a mail , there is state option , you write ACT , lol it doesnt say what is your territory !
Canberra is NOT a state,it is a territory.
Canberra is neither � it is a city.
But none of that has anything to do with how quickly the NBN is rolled out in an area � the NBNCo is not rolling out anything state by state, or even town by town � they're rolling out in multiple individual service areas simultaneously, and are not necessarily moving to a neighbouring service are when they complete one.
canberra is nothing compare to blacktown size lol
You are correct � Blacktown has about 45,000 people; Canberra has about 385,000 people.
i said the size not the population , canberra is very small compare to blacktown , so they can finish the rollout quikly , but malcolm is delaying everything for canberra because its under labor right now !? another proof for that he accelerated the rollout in Queanbeyan and still nothing in canberra !
canberra is very small compare to blacktown
Blacktown is 246 Km2
Canberra is 814 Km2
Canberra is significantly larger
really , why on the map it shows very big ! lol
but the proof that shows nbnco hate canberra that they prefered to finish Queanbeyan
before canberra
calwell size : 3.9 km�
i said the size not the population , canberra is very small compare to blacktown
Even if you count the entire Blacktown LGA (not the suburb), you are still only looking at 247 square kilometres, and about 305,000 people � which is 567 square kilometres, and 80,000 people less than Canberra (or 2,111,000 square kilometres less than the ACT).
calwell size : 3.9 km�
What the hell does the size of Calwell have to do with anything?
and still nothing in canberra !
If you check the published NBN Rollout map for the Australian Capital Territory there are a number of areas ready or in build. While we would all wish to see greater progress, it is not correct to say that Canberra has nothing
anyone here is interested of netflix ? it will be soon after 24 march so i have 10mbps download on peak time from netspeed longreach so i will try trial to watch movies
anyone here is interested of netflix ? it will be soon after 24 march so i have 10mbps download on peak time from netspeed longreach so i will try trial to watch movies
So with a speed of 10mb/s why are you constantly bleating about not having NBN? I live in Dunlop and only get 4mb/s and being on a RIM all that is available is Telstra wholesale, which is significantly more costly that where the ISP provides their own DSLAM in the local exchange.
i have max 5mbps from adsl , and i was lucky i got netspeed longreach but its not that good , unstable ping and speeds because its shared like 3g and 4g , im not happy with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
have max 5mbps from adsl , and i was lucky i got netspeed longreach but its not that good , unstable ping and speeds because its shared like 3g and 4g , im not happy with it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Above you said 10mb/s, now you say 5mb/s, understand why people get confused with your posts?
understand why people get confused with your posts?
Time we stopped feeding the troll I think...
Above you said 10mb/s, now you say 5mb/s, understand why people get confused with your posts?
I reposted his above post about Netflix and Longreach on the Longreach forum because it is related. /forum-replies.cfm?t=2364563&p=6#r107
Be interesting to see how Longreach can handle VoD.
I know moderator, this is a little off topic, but now any followups should go to Longreach thread as per my link above.
Time we stopped feeding the troll I think.
Your right, but I suspect they are not actually trolling, I suspect they are 100% serious about what is posted.
Your right, but I suspect they are not actually trolling, I suspect they are 100% serious about what is posted.
I agree. I don't think that he is trolling either.
At least there was something there though.
Yeah, the exceptional absence of information despite having a faster rollout plan BEFORE coming to power 18 months ago doesn't give me any confidence in anything our current government indicates they'll do.
All of Belconnen would have been under construction (in theory) by now under labor.
calwell was on the 3 years old plan but woden was not , i dont know how they choose the areas for the rollout , i think they still choosing the suburbs from the old plan , but its good that the liberal senator cares about nbn for all canberrans
If you beleive that you beleive in Santa Claus too.
At the end of the day it was a rehash of the annoucement on 1st December 2014. Nothing new what so ever, all he cares about is looking like he is doing something when he isn't.
but its good that the liberal senator cares about nbn for all canberrans
It's not good that our Liberal senator doesn't know what he is talking about, rehashing old information as if it's new and getting the detail wrong at the same time.
Anyone know if a tophat upgrade (currently happening in my street) would constitute a VDSL upgrade or only an adsl2 upgrade ?
edit � side question (though perhaps not relevant) if they're doing the actual work right now, how long before you can typical order a service based on the ground work being done right now (not that that I'm keen or anything)
where do u live ? why labor senators in ACT are talking about NBN !
Anyone know if a tophat upgrade (currently happening in my street) would constitute a VDSL upgrade or only an adsl2 upgrade ?
No. Vdsl2 product has not been released, it's still in "trial". at least adsl2 is something better than adsl1 in the meantime. I'm surprised they are still installing tophats...
I'm surprised they are still installing tophats...
You and me both. The implication/rumour/fear/hope is that they're rolling out vdsl upgrades in tophats so they can do a mass switch on once the vdsl trials are done.
The implication/rumour/fear/hope is that they're rolling out vdsl upgrades in tophats so they can do a mass switch on once the vdsl trials are done.
All the tophats they have installed ever since Telstra started installing them on RIMs can do VDSL � but they cannot do VDSL vectoring. MAX ports for a tophat is 384.
All the tophats they have installed ever since Telstra started installing them on RIMs can do VDSL � but they cannot do VDSL vectoring. MAX ports for a tophat is 384.
The Alcatel 7330, which is going into the Tophats is more than capable of doing VDSL Vectoring, just need the right cards. See Alcatel spec sheet below.
where do u live ? why labor senators in ACT are talking about NBN !
Firstly there is only one labor senator and she retired the other day and the new senator is starting soon.
Secondly when politicians talk is to be noticed. It has nothing to do with actually do anything. Canberra will be far better off if we make that second senate seat a marginal seat to anyone but labor and liberal. Then they'll have a say in the balance of power in the senate.
I did see Alcatel scrawled across the box sitting in the back of the vehicle they were putting in, however, I didn't spy a model number.
I did see Alcatel scrawled across the box sitting in the back of the vehicle they were putting in, however, I didn't spy a model number.
Tophats are the Alcatel 7330, which not surprisingly is what NBN are using in their VDSL trials.
yesterday the minister gai brodtman did a speech about the nbn and why they removed us from the map , and she said that canberrans are not happy about the nbn
Canberra has fallen off the NBN roll out map � and Canberrans aren�t happy.
Under the previous Labor Government, Australians could go to the NBN�s website, look up their address and find out when the NBN roll-out would begin in their suburb.
But, immediately after the election Canberra was taken off the rollout map � and we are still not on it.
We are missing out on the many opportunities provided by the NBN, opportunities to work and study from home, opportunities for tele-health and for better communication. Gai brodtman
Canberra has fallen off the NBN roll out map
While it has slowed down it certainly has not 'fallen' off the roll out map. Even a quick look suggests that work is progressing in Nichols and various other parts of Canberra.
It is only natural that some want it now however in reality we have to take our turn.
Perhaps the ACT Local Government could stump up and do it instead of playing with toy trains and 'street art' (rocks on a plies of colored logs and train wrecks)
EDIT: Scratch last paragraph. The ACT government would screw it up (its in their DNA)
Perhaps the ACT Local Government could stump up and do it instead of playing with toy trains and 'street art' (rocks on a plies of colored logs and train wrecks)
I agree, I would rather them spend the billion dollars towards something that benefits 385,000 canberrans than the select 50,000 in gunghalin.
Could wait and get FTTH on demand. Hope they give that option later on.
Or rent a place in Franklin. Rent is at an all time low at the moment.
the problem with ftth on demand that u cant get gigabit speed , max 330/30
My new house in Coombs still hasn't got the NBN and it still not on NBN coverage(only partial Coombs). Can anyone advise what should I do?
My new house in Coombs still hasn't got the NBN and it still not on NBN coverage(only partial Coombs). Can anyone advise what should I do?
Pray to whichever deity you believe in.
Do you have copper? If not, ask the NBNCo, and/or take it up with your local federal member.
Pray to whichever deity you believe in.
I think that Malcolm has certainly proved himself to be a false god ..... I suggest you go with him.
opticomm
Ugh, I get the feeling it is overpriced and under-delivers, just like TranACT?
The fibre installation is free if u live in opticomm area
I think you'll find that the property developer has paid Optimcomm already. Just like every greenfield/brownfield development pays for services to be laid.
the people who bought house in isabella gardens
Perhaps you should buy into Isabella Gardens. It sounds like it might be a good fit for you.
nbnco will buy the network later like transact
NBN(co) won't necessarily buy the Opticomm connection at Isabella Gardens. I think you'll find that "ownership" of property at Isabella Gardens is substantially different than a regular residential property, seeing as it's a retirement village.
the contractors are wearing nbnco shirts at the roundabout between athlon drive and isabella drive and they are installing fibre optic there and its not Transgrid company .
i guess this fibre optic is for southquay in tuggeranong
the contractors are wearing nbnco shirts at the roundabout between athlon drive and isabella drive and they are installing fibre optic there and its not Transgrid company .
I don't know why you always have your hopes up so high... There is virtually NO NBN action happening in the Tuggeranong area at the moment. It will be starting in a few suburbs within a few months, no doubt, but of course before then there are going to be private and **new** developments having fibre. This basically has nothing to do with NBN in terms of servicing existing residences.
i saw them wearing nbnco shirt !!!
i saw them wearing nbnco shirt !!!
Which means squat.
They were running around Fyshwick for about three months, and they connected the new subdivision and then left.
It could be years before any brownfield connections are made to fibre that is being rolled out down a main road at the present.
It could be years before any brownfield connections are made to fibre that is being rolled out down a main road at the present.
Irregardless of who is in power, I think it is safe to say it will be over a decade before a brownfield residence will get a ftth connection in the ACT, unless you are willing to pay for it. Lots of backhaul will get laid to nodes, that's something that came out of the press release of 1 dec 2014.
People will complain why the north side got it and the south didnt get it yet ! Its not fair
People will complain why the north side got it and the south didnt get it yet !
Mainly because most of the areas on the north side that got it either didn't have access to any broadband before, or are greenfield estates, or neighbouring either of those two types of areas.
And before you whinge; I neither live on the north side, nor have the NBN.
Its not fair
It's not fair to have started with people who couldn't access any form of fixed-line broadband previously?
Or its not fair that new buildings/suburbs are legally required to be hooked up?
Or is there some other reason that I haven't thought of that they didn't put you ahead of the other twenty three million people in this country, and connect you first?
I also hope you realise that 95% of the north side also hasn't been connected to the NBN.
I'm also struggling with your definition of where the north side and south side are. Are Woden and Weston Creek not south side? Because there are several developments in those locations that have been connected.
im talking about tuggeranong valley
I think it's plenty fair.
im talking about tuggeranong valley
And is there a reason why the Tuggeranong valley should be first?
And is there a reason why the Tuggeranong valley should be first?
There isn't, this guy is literally in a fantasy land where he feels as though he deserves FTTP as a top priority, without realising that there are plenty of other people in this country who will get it before he does.
i got this email from the senator ZED
Thank you for your email to Senator Zed Seselja regarding the NBN in Calwell. I have passed on your concerns about this issue to Zed and he has asked me to follow this matter up for you. Zed understand there are significant issues with broadband in the Tuggeranong area and has conveyed his concerns to the Minister for Communications on a number of occasions. I will further pass on your comments to the Minister and seek his response on the matter.
I will let you know once I receive any further information.
Thank you again for your email.
Kind regards,
i got this email from the senator ZED
Thank you for your email to Senator Zed Seselja regarding the NBN in Calwell. I have passed on your concerns about this issue to Zed and he has asked me to follow this matter up for you
Well, not really from Zed.
The end result will be that you will get NBN when they have it planned for. Not before but more than likely later. Your letter would not have moved it to the top of the list or any further up the list.
The rollout plan seems fairly sane to me � northside primarily focusing in Gungahlin because they literally had barely broadband before and Queanbeyan because of the aged infrastructure out there owing to the age of the town causing issues out that way too.
Woden and south Belconnen would be a lower priority owing to having VDSL2 from TransACT.
In an ideal world it'd be great to do everywhere at once, but alas, that's not reality.
The rollout plan seems fairly sane to me � northside primarily focusing in Gungahlin because they literally had barely broadband before
And the take up rate would seem to back you up too. Higher than any other area in Australia.
Lots of work going on in CIVIC. Took this picture at on Borthbourne Avenue a couple of nights ago: http://imgur.com/3Ljzu5J
The exact same work in going on right now on Ainslie Avenue.
Anyone knows what it is? Lots of blue cables and some yellow cables too.
they r doing the same at the roundabout between isabella drive and athlon drive at tuggeranong valley , blue and green cables and they are wearing nbnco shirts
they r doing the same at the roundabout between isabella drive and athlon drive at tuggeranong valley , blue and green cables and they are wearing nbnco shirts
You still haven't realised that this will not mean you get the NBN any time soon.. lol. They could simply be laying cable for other areas, or new greenfield residences in that area. Probably one of the new developments going on in tuggeranong near bunnings, or something like that. Nothing for existing residences, don't get your hopes up lol.
Woden and south Belconnen would be a lower priority owing to having VDSL2 from TransACT.
Yep, heaps of suburbs in Woden/North Tuggeranong (Kambah, Wanniassa, etc) already have FttN in the form of VDSL2 through TransACT/iiNet. Worth checking your address on iiNet's Website, as this will mean you can get 30mbps+ (with a very long line length, most people get 50-65mbps) which is basically the minimum NBN standard now (as sad as that may be).
ok, so now I'm being told by Telstra that they still can't see the tophatted rim in the database (aka no dsl2 ports available � and there's less than 400 houses in this area on that rim and it has a smaller sibling next to it � which was there before they tophatted) and it's been almost 6 weeks since they put the top hat in.
I am starting to wonder if this is VDSL prep and not adsl2.
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Finally had green fibre run in from the pit to the basement at the Vail Apartments on Henty street last week. There were also a few works going on in Haig Park at the bend of Henty street near the Northborne flats so could be good news for any other Braddon dwellers.
Was sitting in a spool over the weekend but looks to have been connected up to the cabinet on Monday which is good. Now just waiting for the service class to change... Not sure if there's some kind of audit that needs to take place between now and then... Hope not!
Good news! Still no sign of green fiber in the Devonport on 1-19 Ijong Street and 62 Henty Street :(
Looks like Jerrabomberra is getting FTTP � 9QBN-08 has just gone live for preparation which includes most of Jerra. There may be hope for the rest of the ACT yet.
I don't have high hopes for the ACT region rollout outside of the Eden-Monaro electorate.
I don't have high hopes for the ACT region rollout outside of the Eden-Monaro electorate.
Agree with you totally.
I don't have high hopes for the ACT region rollout outside of the Eden-Monaro electorate
It is good news, not inconsistent with the MTM policy though. Who knows maybe some of the early ACT rollouts may also get FTTP too, especially West Belconnen, where there is already some greenfield FTTP.
9CVI-01 here, brownfields apartment, came home to TPG spam in my letter box saying I can now order NBN. Jumped on myNBN's website and it agreed with my premise being serviceable.
It is now May � which has been more than half a year since they installed stuff on top of our doors.
I'm very excited, it's about friggin time!
Will attempt to order NBN after dinner. :)
9CVI-01 here, brownfields apartment,
Any more specific location info? There are a couple of us up in Braddon who seem to be ever-so-close to going active that might be interested. Will understand though if you don't want to give your address away on the internet :)
Here in the Vail, my GF mentioned she saw a bunch of people filling in paperwork while looking at our basement cabinet on Wed/Thurs last week. She only mentioned it on the weekend so told her to bail them up if she sees them again but hasn't so far. Hoping that means it's just going through final testing/sign off but equally aware that this may mean there are defects that need addressing...
Any more specific location info?
I'll say as much as this is on the city side of the park � on ADA 9CVI-01-00-MPS-04x.
Considering 71% of 9CVI-01 is still at service class 0, I am counting my lucky stars right now.
When I contacted our strata manager a few months back, they said they were just waiting for the connection from the pit to the building.
The Vail is pretty big � so tell her to go into the carpark and see if she can spot yellow cable running in the cable trays. I'm sure there should be though because we've had NBN fibre in the basement cabling trays for like a year now.
As for the rest of 9CVI-01, I see the disconnection date has been pushed back to 22 Jan 2016, still not convinced that's going to happen at this rate.
The Vail is pretty big � so tell her to go into the carpark and see if she can spot yellow cable running in the cable trays. I'm sure there should be though because we've had NBN fibre in the basement cabling trays for like a year now.
Yeah, we've had the building's internal cabling done since December last year, and were in the same situation as you were � just needed fibre from the pit to our basement cabinet. That happened a couple of weeks back so I'm hoping we'll soon go RFS like your building has.
they added jerrabomberra to green color , it will get fttp
or that an NBN installer has to come around and make an assessment/recommendation for them to sign off on.
Isn't this what you basically got though? First visit the guy did an assessment and gave you the options, once you have sign off from the landlord on one of those, then a second appointment gets booked to carry out the work.
The first visit in your case wasn't *specifically* booked as an assessment visit, but I think that makes sense. In the cases where the install can be done on the first visit, it absolutely should be. So NBN book a "general" visit for the first time, which can turn in to either an install visit or an assessment visit as required.
any news up the street? I see that the work to run another fibre trunk (?) up through Haig park is well underway, but not sure if that has anything to do with the situation around here.
I called NBN Co to ask when they are planning on finishing the job, they said within two weeks... Its literally only a 1-day job, as I was told by the NBN Co worker.
The contractor (Downer EDI Engineering) has finish their part, so its really up to NBN Co to decide whenever they want to connect those 52 premises. Only waiting for that green cable and we will be good to go.
Just a little reminder of where we should have been now :
Canberra Times March 30 2012.
"Canberra suburbs where work will begin before mid-2015:
Ainslie, Amaroo, Aranda, Banks, Barton, Belconnen, Bonython, Braddon, Bruce, Calwell, Campbell, Chapman, Charnwood, Chifley, Chisholm, City, Conder, Cook, Crace, Curtin, Deakin, Dickson, Downer, Duffy, Dunlop, Evatt, Fadden, Farrer, Fisher, Florey, Flynn, Forrest, Franklin, Fraser, Garran, Gilmore, Giralang, Gordon, Gowrie, Greenway, Griffith, Gungahlin, Hackett, Harrison, Hawker, Higgins, Holder, Holt, Hughes, Isaacs, Isabella Plains, Kaleen, Kambah, Kingston, Latham, Lawson, Lyneham, Lyons, Macarthur, Macgregor, Macquarie, Mawson, McKellar, Melba, Mitchell, Monash, Narrabundah, Ngunnawal, Nicholls, O'Connor, O'Malley, Oxley, Page, Palmerston, Parkes, Pearce, Phillip, Red Hill, Reid, Richardson, Rivett, Scullin, Spence, Stirling, Theodore, Torrens, Turner, Wanniassa, Waramanga, Watson, Weetangera and Weston."
Now what is on the plan again now and what has changed � well I can guarantee you that half of the above suburbs can get greater than 12 MB already seeing though they are covered by VDSL � others listed aren't even Showing up on the list of being Planned � Yes Im looking at all of Tuggeranong in that !!.
What a F'en Joke !!!!!
All monash exchange suburbs were on the map and liberal removed it , nothing in the future !
Just a little reminder of where we should have been now :
Canberra Times March 30 2012.
"Canberra suburbs where work will begin before mid-2015:
But that wasn't a reality either, In labor days if you were a line in a spreadsheet you were almost done, and now its you need a box hanging off your wall with a blinking green light to even make the spreadsheet. There is no middle ground.
But that wasn't a reality either,
Maybe or maybe not ... but at least you could see your suburbs name on the plan.....
I guess the other point is that there are some that say the current rollout has not changed from the "original" plans its just been time delayed- well this clearly shows that this is Not the Case.
Ok, so 2 � months since they top hatted the rim in my street. Still can't get adsl2, time to assume it IS vdsl prep ?
NBN installer came and got NTD installed. Apparently I'm the first in my complex to do so and the building manager was in tow as well. The building manager wanted to observe as he's had a lot of queries re NBN installation. I think he was very grateful that I explained a lot of things to him.
In my complex, there are no power points near the door, so in my case I opted to have the fibre run just under the skirting board to a set of power points on the opposite side of my living room. I decided to do it that way because there are existing comms sockets, I'm hoping that I can just do some rewiring in the connection box (which is in the pantry) so I can use existing internal wiring. I haven't had a chance to look in the connection box but the sockets in each room are RJ45, so I'm hopeful that what I want to do will be reasonably straightforward.
The fibre they use inside the unit is grey coloured, flat, and sticks to the wall. The NTD needs to be 150mm off the ground up to a maximum height of 1.2m � so it's going to stick out a lot. I chose to have mine in a spot so that it'd sit behind my TV. I think a lot of people in my complex will opt to have their NTD in the kitchen.
Installation took about two hours total. According to the installer, there are only about six installers in Canberra that does this kind of NBN installation. He said I was lucky that I got in early otherwise the waiting time is going to be pretty epic.
I noticed on myNBN that more complexes in Civic went RFS between May and June, including some big-ish ones like 28 Mort. Interestingly enough, complexes like James Court still doesn't have a MPS-xxx ADA ID, I wonder if those are going to take a while.
Very excited, just waiting on Internode to send me an invoice so I can pay it and get on the Internets!
this link for ACT people
https://www.facebook.com/Gai
Cool. I had my install on Friday arvo, and went active this afternoon (thankfully I was away over the weekend otherwise I probably would've gone crazy). Similar kind of installation except I got a different bloke to my first appointment and he wasn't keen on the adhesive cable (said he didn't have any of the corner pieces and there was a 2 month(!) wait time on getting them) so we ended up with some halfway discreet conduit following the door frame and along the skirting board. Not the neatest looking thing ever but I didn't want to give him a hard time based on the workload he described to me.
Now I'm just torturing myself trying to get my new wireless router to give me consistent speeds across devices � wishing my apartment was wired with cat5 right now!
So here I am, living in the building right behind NNotNENN, and still waiting for the contractor to pull this green cable in our basement.
We have had everything installed for 6 months and the remaining work is a "24 hours job" according to NBN Co.
The installation was supposed to be completed by the 13th of January. Then late February. Then waiting for a cable in the street that came around April. Then was told 22nd of May according to Downer's agenda, then asked to wait another 2 weeks since they were busy etc etc.
Now, something I do not understand:
If you go to: http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/9CVI-01
And click on: "ADA info"
Why can't I find my box "9CVI-01-00-MPS-006"?
Why can't I find my box "9CVI-01-00-MPS-006"?
My guess is paperwork screw up. The building with bentspoke is like that as well � the MPS-xxx ADA ID isn't showing up. In their case apparently the building is RFS but it's just paperwork that NBNCo needs to fix.
Also as a side note, just because a building is showing RFS, don't get your hopes up 100%. I was chatting to my building manager while he watched the tech install my NBN, apparently a couple of weeks ago people tried to order NBN and had techs turn up, but when they did, they realised that the building had no signal in from the street. NBNCo took two weeks to fix that, and I happened to get lucky and was the first one to order it after it had been fixed.
My guess is paperwork screw up.
During on my NUMEROUS calls with NBN Co, I was told that my LOC ID is only linked to 8 units... We have like 50. When I give them my address (registered with the post office), they cannot find it on their system.
I sent all the info to them, hopefully they will bring me some good news next time.
EDIT: How did you know you were RFS? And what did you have to provide your ISP with, to get an appointment?
I was asked a building ID or something like that by my ISP, but NBN Co cannot give it to me since my address actually does not exist on their system.
EDIT: How did you know you were RFS? And what did you have to provide your ISP with, to get an appointment?
I knew when both TPG and iinet spammed my letterbox, after which I proceeded to verify on myNBN.
All I had to provide to my ISP(s) was my address. The first 10 people at TPG said it was no problem, until the 11th asked for a location ID (LOC000<9 digit number>) which I didn't know how to get at the time (now I realised myNBN has it). After which I said bugger that to TPG and went with Internode. Just signed up online with Internode and got an appointment within a week.
Also, the address part is a bit retarded in this regard. For TPG, only one variation of my address worked on their system, which I eventually had to figure out myself. With Internode, I signed up as "unit x" and it went through their system fine, but text message from NBN had it as "shop x". I was like whatever and got the tech to do the installation anyway, figured I can probably fix things later once the NTD is in place.
Well 'something' has happened, spotted a techie with a laptop doing more work on the rim since check my gaming latency has dropped (normally a 37-38ms ping to the LOL servers, now it's 18-20) quick call to Telstra says adsl2 is now available on my line (previously it was always a 'may be available')
See what happens when I start asking provisioning questions tomorrow during business hours
Sweet Monash will be starting 2018
How did u know about monash ?
Yesterday we met gai brodtman and jason clare in tuggeranong and he knows that the worst internet in canberra are all suburbs connected to monash exchange , gai will do campaign to push nbn for these suburbs and make it in the top list
Sweet Monash will be starting 2018
What is your source? Though not surprising, it was always going to be next on the list anyway.
ye what is your source?
ye what is your source
Common sense. If you notice carefully the current rollout is following the same order as the old published schedule. So just asking (and not asking you might I add) where the person had heard a firm date.
I presume 2nd half?
Yes that crossed my mind as a possibility too but why not just use Q3 or Q4 which is a protocol that most people understand.
FTTN or FTTP?
thank god that monash exchange is until the next election so maybe we have a chance for FTTP :D
ACT � Q3 2015
Hume, Jerrabomberra, Queanbeyan West
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ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Farrer, Greenway, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens,
Wanniassa
Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor,
Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson
Wow, what a big change in just over 6 months. In December it was these sites starting this FY.
Yes that crossed my mind as a possibility too but why not just use Q3 or Q4 which is a protocol that most people understand
It is all about granularity, and not sure what circles you move in, but H for half is very very common. Same with FY and CY for financial year and calendar year. Look at company financial results for example.
In this case it gives them a 6 month window and be right.
ye but they will get FTTN ! not FTTP like gunghalin
H for half is very very common
I disagree with it being very, very common. Never seen it before ..... in the circles I move in and no, you don't know the circles I move in.
Same with FY and CY for financial year and calendar year
Yes I've seen them before and they are common. 'H' � no.
Yeah wtf is H2?
Yeah wtf is H2?
2nd half of the year.
Must admit not common, but not unusual either in the business world.
I disagree with it being very, very common
It's very common in things that forecast a product release in the medium term future, e.g. video games publishers, movie studios.
I disagree with it being very, very common. Never seen it before ..... in the circles I move in and no, you don't know the circles I move in.
It's business and accounting speak which is very common if you've read financial performance of companies. 1HFY15 = 1st half FY15 = 1 July 14 to 1 Jan 2015.
E.g. http://www.asx.com.au/asx/sta
I assume the new ACT rollouts will be FTTN?
Yeah 2nd half of 2016 (others are listed as H1) I'm guessing the size of the rollout means it's a little harder to nail it to a quarter
eah 2nd half of 2016 (others are listed as H1) I'm guessing the size of the rollout means it's a little harder to nail it to a quarter
Still you'd think Q4 would work and if they started in Q3, no one would complain!
Updated build start tentative dates:
ACT � Q3 2015
Hume, Jerrabomberra, Queanbeyan West
ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Farrer, Greenway, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens,
Wanniassa
Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor,
Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson
Good to see new areas being added. Would have been nice if NBNCo finished all of Gungahlin off before moving on. [rant over from Casey stage 1 resident]
but its FTTN , why not doing all canberra is FTTP ! not fair
but its FTTN , why not doing all canberra is FTTP ! not fair
that's the way it is, don't like it, move to somewhere there is FTTP.
I like my 100/40 FTTP :)
I'm pretty sure it's the other older high rise next to QT (Rydges)
Thanks, k yeah I found 9CVI-02-00-MPS-083/9CVI-02-FTB-083 � it's Capital Tower aka 2 Marcus Clarke St. I had to click on the lower half of the building to get it to show up.
It's also interesting that myNBN is showing that some ADAs are inactive but have connected premises. (it's the inactive part that is wrong)
I'm going to be so annoyed if my house gets FTTN come second half of 2016, but if that happens, hopefully I'll have the option to convert to FTTP eventually even if it means ponying up the money.
Can someone educate me a little. I know my rim was just top hatted 3 months ago. I'm going to 'assume' (yeah don't laugh) the backhaul is decent enough between the rim and the exchange (and in turn from the exchange)
Pretending the above was true, what else would they actually be doing for a fttn rollout for me ? (I still want fttp but I'm not holding my breath and my fttn speeds would be good � sadly)
dont worry man , monash exchange not on the plan , and its after the election , so if labor win we will get FTTP and all this areas will stuck on FTTN ! and if i got fttn i will pay for fibre on demand
Has anyone from Coombs stage 1a/2(the one that just been released) area got their NBN?
so if labor win we will get FTTP and all this areas will stuck on FTTN !
I would take FTTN in the next 2 years over FTTP in maybe 5 or 6 years!
my 3-4mb link is killing me and is pretty much useless if I want to do any work from home and it is only going to get worse!
Good to see new areas being added. Would have been nice if NBNCo finished all of Gungahlin off before moving on. [rant over from Casey stage 1 resident]
Excluding the QBN areas they are not actually new areas added. They are new areas delayed, as they were announced in December 2014 starting mid 2015.
i wish the node close to u so u can reach 90mbps
Does anyone know what's happening for the NBN rollout into Lawson?
I'm guessing no-one wanted to comment about my query regarding what the fttn rollout entails if you're connected to a tophatted rim
I'm guessing no-one wanted to comment about my query regarding what the fttn rollout entails if you're connected to a tophatted rim
AFAIK RIMs are completely ignored when it comes to rolling out nodes. Generally the node will need to be a lot closer to the end-point than the RIM.
Does anyone know what's happening for the NBN rollout into Lawson?
Whilst it doesn't show on the NBN plans, it is a greenfields site so it must have something. I gather it doesn't show because it is up to the developer to arrange with NBN or another fibre provider.
AFAIK RIMs are completely ignored when it comes to rolling out nodes. Generally the node will need to be a lot closer to the end-point than the RIM.
I assume rims count though (i'm about 50-60m from my rim) as possible/probable nodes.
At a guess they'd build a node right next to an existing RIM to cater for short copper loops like yours, otherwise they'd have to extend the copper to the node, and that's nonsensical.
Assuming that the hardware they've installed inside the RIM/tophat hasn't already been setup to support VDSL.
Assuming that the hardware they've installed inside the RIM/tophat hasn't already been setup to support VDSL.
Thing is the tophatting was only done in march this year. So I've every reason to suspect it's vdsl1/2 capable. Hence why I was curious if it IS vdsl2 capable, what else would they be doing to make 'nbn' available here other than filling my letterbox with junkmail for overpriced carriers
ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Would anyone know why Weetangera has dropped off the list of suburbs serviced by the Scullin exchange? I am worried we may never get the NBN at this rate!
Would anyone know why Weetangera has dropped off the list of suburbs serviced by the Scullin exchange?
I thought Weetangera was connected to Belconnen (like Macquarie, Cook, Aranda.
Reality is also Evatt, Melba, Mckellar, Flynn, Spence are connected to Melba (I think Fraser, Charnwood and Dunlop to) so it might not be exchange related.
edit - my bad - Weetangera is part of Scullin. I'd be a bit miffed, you can hope it's an oversight...
I thought Weetangera was connected to Belconnen (like Macquarie, Cook, Aranda.
Reality is also Evatt, Melba, Mckellar, Flynn, Spence are connected to Melba (I think Fraser, Charnwood and Dunlop to) so it might not be exchange related.
edit � my bad � Weetangera is part of Scullin. I'd be a bit miffed, you can hope it's an oversight...
Telstra and NBN exhcage areas are different. So it may well be that Weetangera, despite being connected to the Telstra Scullin exchange is planned to go onto the Belconnen NBN 'exchange'
Just like how Kaleen and Giralang are Crace for Telstra and Belconnen for NBN.
Telstra and NBN exhcage areas are different. So it may well be that Weetangera, despite being connected to the Telstra Scullin exchange is planned to go onto the Belconnen NBN 'exchange'
I shot an email off to NBN to clarify but no reply as yet. By the looks the Belconnen exchange has no date for an NBN build? If so I really hope Weetangera dropping off the Scullin list is just an oversight!
I shot an email off to NBN to clarify but no reply as yet. By the looks the Belconnen exchange has no date for an NBN build? If so I really hope Weetangera dropping off the Scullin list is just an oversight!
Doesn't look like a mistake. Go to the mynbn info site put in Weetangera and it has no info what so ever. Move to a Hawker, Scullin, page etc address and details come up.
HEY GUYS CHECK THE MAP NOW . THEY ADDED HUME AND HALF OF JARRABOMBRA TO GREEN COLOR
HEY GUYS CHECK THE MAP NOW . THEY ADDED HUME AND HALF OF JARRABOMBRA TO GREEN COLOR
Bit slow there. Go to page 61 of this thread, already covered.
Ye but thats good because hume is close to us , but they r lucky because its FTTP not FTTN
Ye but thats good because hume is close to us ,
Hume being close to Tuggeranong means nothing at all. Move on and accept we are years off even being announced not implemented, there are more important things in life than Internet.
what is happening in Lawson might be able to provide an informed response.
I thought Lawson was going to be serviced by transact fibre. Not sure about now, but that's what was in the Lawson development plan.
I thought Lawson was going to be serviced by transact fibre.
Thanks Sotko. I'll be interested to see if there is anyone else that comments.
I'll be interested to see if there is anyone else that comments
What you mean like me?
As mentioned NBN are doing it, as they are for all LDA developments.
What you mean like me?
As mentioned NBN are doing it, as they are for all LDA developments.
AJW
You're not providing any new or useful information so what value are you adding with your responses.
You obviously are experienced with telecommunication issues but .... is it look at me, look at me?
No point discussing this to death.
Lawson is being supplied telecommunication infrastructure by Transact � see section 4.6
Additionally iiNet (who bought Transact in 2011) sold their FTTP to NBN in 2013 so any new fibre run will be NBN.
Example from this article here;
iiNet noted that under the agreement, TransACT would complete construction of pit-and pipe infrastructure in some new estates where agreements were in place until 2017, and transfer ownership to NBN Co for no additional charge.
Lawson is being supplied telecommunication infrastructure by Transact � see section 4.6
Thank you P�draig.
You're not providing any new or useful information so what value are you adding with your responses.
I have provided the same response you got above twice now.
I just fail to understand what more you could want to know, the estate will have NBN. Asking the same question again and again doesn't change the answer.
Also will add my own experience here I am building in the last few streets of Casey which like Lawson was to be done by Transact and it only appeared on the NBN map when it became live. So I wouldn't expect anything to show on the NBN map in Lawson until then too.
Also out of interest even though it is now NBN gear that goes in the builder says they need to conform to Transact standards in this estate, which differs from NBN in that they install a metal enclosure (basically the same as the meter box) and the fibre gets terminated in there. He also said that's where NBN will install their gear, though I have asked for him to install a conduit to my data room as that is where I want the gear installed.
So 9CVI-01's cut off is Jan 2016, I wonder what happens when a developer screwed up?
A building in the current rollout area (within the purple shaded area) apparently wasn't done as a MDU during the rollout. One premise in that complex got connected, everyone else got told it's another 12-18 months before they can connect to the NBN. Wonder if their copper will selectively not be disconnected come Jan 2016?
Funny how the real estate agent was all "oh yeah this building will totally be NBN ready when you move in" then in reality the developer made a pretty epic mistake.
Saw some more digging going on top of Southern Cross drive in Latham the other day (looked like pipe/cable getting fed into a reasonable deep hole) couldn't see the business names or signage associated with it (it was slowed like roadworks in the immediate vicinity) so don't know if it's relevant or not. Can always hope it is.
Doesn't look like a mistake. Go to the mynbn info site put in Weetangera and it has no info what so ever. Move to a Hawker, Scullin, page etc address and details come up.
Yes does not look promising does it. I finally received a very non-commital reply from NBN -
"At this stage, it looks like Weetangera isn't going to be included in H2-2016. Possibly the design for the Scullin area has changed"
ADSL is just getting slower and slower, apparently "congestion relief" is underway for braddon exchange, they told me to expect the relief to be transition to NBN. I have zero confidence in seeing NBN in the next two years, it has been about a year and a half since NBN work on my building appears to of been abandoned, with fibre hanging from the wall in the building managers office. Scheduled to be disconnected from copper Jan 2016, fat chance.
Scheduled to be disconnected from copper Jan 2016, fat chance.
I dunno � copper disconnection might still happen on time regardless. :P
Soona, fasta, cheapa
Thanks to Malcolm and Tony, we'll be getting it later, slower and more expensive.
Thanks to Malcolm and Tony, we'll be getting it later, slower and more expensive.
I think if anything, Malcolm had very little say in it. He did what he was told to keep his minister position.
Things will probably change next year. How this affects the rollout in Canberra no one will know.
While we can whinge in Tuggeranong we never get anything, it may be ultimately to our advantage, as we may end up with FTTP. If the current liberal government stays in power we'll almost definitely get FTTN (Although this is going to take something like a war or a string of terrorist attacks and I sure hope that doesn't happen).
This is slightly off topic, but I know many Tuggeranonger's don't support the light rail. However on the bright side without lightrail, car parking in the city will just be harder and more expensive to find. So in reality Tuggeranong does benefit from light rail. As i just said, not getting NBN right now may also be a blessing in disguise. I've certainly hear rumbles about it being possible to switch back to FTTP under several provisions in the contract.
Has a sod of earth, even been turned in standing up a node in ACT/Scullin ?
Has a sod of earth, even been turned in standing up a node in ACT/Scullin ?
Yeah it was one of the first in the ACT. Greenfields in Macgregror!
But seriously your talking about the main rollout, the answer is no. It was meant to be now, but has, like all annouced rollouts in recent times been delayed for around a year.
Still not sure why they just don't buy Transact, except for Dunlop and a few other locations, most of west Belconnen has it.
Still not sure why they just don't buy Transact, except for Dunlop and a few other locations, most of west Belconnen has it.
That's for the Transact Fibre network which NBN brought ages ago. I am talking about the Transact VDSL2 network. Eg FTTN
https://iihelp.iinet.net.a
That's only the TransACT fibre network. The NBNCo hasn't purchased TransACT's/iiNet's FTTN/FTTB network.
With the iiNet/TPG merger going ahead, and TPG's inclination to directly compete with NBN on the infrastructure level with FTTB, I wouldn't be surprised if TPG refuses any future offer for NBN to buy the TransACT FTTN network.
Maybe TPG will even expand the VDSL footprint?
With the iiNet/TPG merger going ahead, and TPG's inclination to directly compete with NBN on the infrastructure level with FTTB, I wouldn't be surprised if TPG refuses any future offer for NBN to buy the TransACT FTTN network.
You could be right there, or at the very least they will have some fun with the government :-)
edit:(http://www.itnews.c
Maybe TPG will even expand the VDSL footprint?
FTTB is where the returns are. MDUs, yep.
(all IMHO)
I wouldn't be surprised if TPG refuses any future offer for NBN to buy the TransACT FTTN network.
If telstra were to gave up under govt threat then who is TPG?
FTTB is where the returns are. MDUs, yep.
The TransACT VDSL network does have a bunch of MDUs inside it's existing footprint that were never connected...
The TransACT VDSL network does have a bunch of MDUs inside it's existing footprint that were never connected...
That's interesting. Why weren't they connected?
That's interesting. Why weren't they connected?
Because the then ActewAGL owned TransACT needed agreement from a bunch of body corporates that weren't really interested. I think they also wanted the body corporates to pay some or all of the connection costs.
This was all a decade ago, so FTTB equipment would likely have been more expensive too � TransACT did basically go bankrupt several times.
I wish NBN would stop sending me letters about the good news that NBN is coming, oneday, probably never. Don't send me anything until it's actually happening. Bad news? Copper disconnection has been extended to August next year. So it'll probably be 2-2.5 years from fibre being hung in the basement of my building to actual NBN connection now, as they have another whole damned year.
Had a bit of fun with Telstra recently arguing that losing 1/3 of my ADSL speed in the last year isn't acceptable. Eventually got out of them it's due to congestion, but they tell me, congestion relief is underway! After a bit of probing, apparently congestion relief is "you'll go to NBN eventually".
Had a bit of fun with Telstra recently arguing that losing 1/3 of my ADSL speed in the last year isn't acceptable.
But of course Telstra offered to reduce the cost of your plan by 1/3 didn't they ..... (turns off sarcasm).
So just moved to a place in Kingston with the following:
https://www.dropbo
I've been told by body corporate the following:
- The plans offered by Signature Connect can be viewed at
http://www.signatureconnect.com.au
- With only recently introduced telecommunications infrastructure policy around the
NBN, not all retailers will be immediately available to connect to the telephony or
data network.
Am I stuck with a random no-named ISP having monopoly of my MDU? (please say no :( )
- The plans offered by Signature Connect can be viewed at
http://www.signatureconnect.com.au
I refuse to sign a 24-month contract with a brand new, unheard of ISP that only services one building. It's not transferrable when you move out and the early termination fee is the entire remaining balance of the contract, up to $2,675 for the 100Mbps plan.
Signature Connect told me they won't be the only provider available but, for obvious reasons, won't tell me who the others are. I've called all the major ISPs and none of them can offer any type of service at the address, neither NBN, VDSL or ADSL.
I've asked Controlability who built and installed all the tech (fibre, intercom, TV distribution etc) for a list of available providers but haven't heard back.
Given that Dockside has VDSL and Quayside has NBN, I'm thinking the Element developers have done an exclusive deal with Signature Connect that we, the customer, will end up paying dearly for.
24 month contract on awful plans? Goddamn!
Sounds like the kind of free market utopia that Turnbull and co wet themselves over.
Given that Dockside has VDSL
It doesn't really change the shit-fight that it appears Element is appearing to be, but doesn't Dockside have TransACT fibre � which is on its way to becoming NBN FTTP?
I know that the Waterfront, The Viridian, and The Gateway complexes have VDSL2, but they're older buildings.
So just moved to a place in Kingston with the following:
Am I stuck with a random no-named ISP having monopoly of my MDU? (please say no :( )
Who's physical address is in the northern territory....
They are offering 6 months if you call them at 10$ a month more. So 109$/m for the 1tb 100/40 byo router + 59.99$ setup
I called tpg who got me further than any other isp. They have escalated it and im waiting to see if they are willing to connect to the network. They said that i will be able to be on their nbn plans.
It has been a week since i called tpg no update yet. I might bite the bullet some time next week and go with signature connect for 6months if tpg doesnt have anything for me by end of next week.
You should contact some of the local ISP's and see if they are connecting to the network, From what I've read there is an open wholesale network operating in that complex.
It doesn't really change the shit-fight that it appears Element is appearing to be, but doesn't Dockside have TransACT fibre � which is on its way to becoming NBN FTTP?
No, that would be TransACT VDSL2. It has TransACT backhaul fibre. Nothing to do with NBN.
The network at Element appears to be a far cry from the "open" TransACT network, in that it's actually a wholesale only, layer 2 bitstream, NBN style, open network.
Count yourself lucky that you have FTTP where as other developments in your area are getting FTTB (VDSL2).
./cm
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