they r doing the same at the roundabout between isabella drive and athlon drive at tuggeranong valley , blue and green cables and they are wearing nbnco shirts
You still haven't realised that this will not mean you get the NBN any time soon.. lol. They could simply be laying cable for other areas, or new greenfield residences in that area. Probably one of the new developments going on in tuggeranong near bunnings, or something like that. Nothing for existing residences, don't get your hopes up lol.
Woden and south Belconnen would be a lower priority owing to having VDSL2 from TransACT.
Yep, heaps of suburbs in Woden/North Tuggeranong (Kambah, Wanniassa, etc) already have FttN in the form of VDSL2 through TransACT/iiNet. Worth checking your address on iiNet's Website, as this will mean you can get 30mbps+ (with a very long line length, most people get 50-65mbps) which is basically the minimum NBN standard now (as sad as that may be).
ok, so now I'm being told by Telstra that they still can't see the tophatted rim in the database (aka no dsl2 ports available � and there's less than 400 houses in this area on that rim and it has a smaller sibling next to it � which was there before they tophatted) and it's been almost 6 weeks since they put the top hat in.
I am starting to wonder if this is VDSL prep and not adsl2.
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Finally had green fibre run in from the pit to the basement at the Vail Apartments on Henty street last week. There were also a few works going on in Haig Park at the bend of Henty street near the Northborne flats so could be good news for any other Braddon dwellers.
Was sitting in a spool over the weekend but looks to have been connected up to the cabinet on Monday which is good. Now just waiting for the service class to change... Not sure if there's some kind of audit that needs to take place between now and then... Hope not!
Good news! Still no sign of green fiber in the Devonport on 1-19 Ijong Street and 62 Henty Street :(
Looks like Jerrabomberra is getting FTTP � 9QBN-08 has just gone live for preparation which includes most of Jerra. There may be hope for the rest of the ACT yet.
I don't have high hopes for the ACT region rollout outside of the Eden-Monaro electorate.
I don't have high hopes for the ACT region rollout outside of the Eden-Monaro electorate.
Agree with you totally.
I don't have high hopes for the ACT region rollout outside of the Eden-Monaro electorate
It is good news, not inconsistent with the MTM policy though. Who knows maybe some of the early ACT rollouts may also get FTTP too, especially West Belconnen, where there is already some greenfield FTTP.
9CVI-01 here, brownfields apartment, came home to TPG spam in my letter box saying I can now order NBN. Jumped on myNBN's website and it agreed with my premise being serviceable.
It is now May � which has been more than half a year since they installed stuff on top of our doors.
I'm very excited, it's about friggin time!
Will attempt to order NBN after dinner. :)
9CVI-01 here, brownfields apartment,
Any more specific location info? There are a couple of us up in Braddon who seem to be ever-so-close to going active that might be interested. Will understand though if you don't want to give your address away on the internet :)
Here in the Vail, my GF mentioned she saw a bunch of people filling in paperwork while looking at our basement cabinet on Wed/Thurs last week. She only mentioned it on the weekend so told her to bail them up if she sees them again but hasn't so far. Hoping that means it's just going through final testing/sign off but equally aware that this may mean there are defects that need addressing...
Any more specific location info?
I'll say as much as this is on the city side of the park � on ADA 9CVI-01-00-MPS-04x.
Considering 71% of 9CVI-01 is still at service class 0, I am counting my lucky stars right now.
When I contacted our strata manager a few months back, they said they were just waiting for the connection from the pit to the building.
The Vail is pretty big � so tell her to go into the carpark and see if she can spot yellow cable running in the cable trays. I'm sure there should be though because we've had NBN fibre in the basement cabling trays for like a year now.
As for the rest of 9CVI-01, I see the disconnection date has been pushed back to 22 Jan 2016, still not convinced that's going to happen at this rate.
The Vail is pretty big � so tell her to go into the carpark and see if she can spot yellow cable running in the cable trays. I'm sure there should be though because we've had NBN fibre in the basement cabling trays for like a year now.
Yeah, we've had the building's internal cabling done since December last year, and were in the same situation as you were � just needed fibre from the pit to our basement cabinet. That happened a couple of weeks back so I'm hoping we'll soon go RFS like your building has.
they added jerrabomberra to green color , it will get fttp
or that an NBN installer has to come around and make an assessment/recommendation for them to sign off on.
Isn't this what you basically got though? First visit the guy did an assessment and gave you the options, once you have sign off from the landlord on one of those, then a second appointment gets booked to carry out the work.
The first visit in your case wasn't *specifically* booked as an assessment visit, but I think that makes sense. In the cases where the install can be done on the first visit, it absolutely should be. So NBN book a "general" visit for the first time, which can turn in to either an install visit or an assessment visit as required.
any news up the street? I see that the work to run another fibre trunk (?) up through Haig park is well underway, but not sure if that has anything to do with the situation around here.
I called NBN Co to ask when they are planning on finishing the job, they said within two weeks... Its literally only a 1-day job, as I was told by the NBN Co worker.
The contractor (Downer EDI Engineering) has finish their part, so its really up to NBN Co to decide whenever they want to connect those 52 premises. Only waiting for that green cable and we will be good to go.
Just a little reminder of where we should have been now :
Canberra Times March 30 2012.
"Canberra suburbs where work will begin before mid-2015:
Ainslie, Amaroo, Aranda, Banks, Barton, Belconnen, Bonython, Braddon, Bruce, Calwell, Campbell, Chapman, Charnwood, Chifley, Chisholm, City, Conder, Cook, Crace, Curtin, Deakin, Dickson, Downer, Duffy, Dunlop, Evatt, Fadden, Farrer, Fisher, Florey, Flynn, Forrest, Franklin, Fraser, Garran, Gilmore, Giralang, Gordon, Gowrie, Greenway, Griffith, Gungahlin, Hackett, Harrison, Hawker, Higgins, Holder, Holt, Hughes, Isaacs, Isabella Plains, Kaleen, Kambah, Kingston, Latham, Lawson, Lyneham, Lyons, Macarthur, Macgregor, Macquarie, Mawson, McKellar, Melba, Mitchell, Monash, Narrabundah, Ngunnawal, Nicholls, O'Connor, O'Malley, Oxley, Page, Palmerston, Parkes, Pearce, Phillip, Red Hill, Reid, Richardson, Rivett, Scullin, Spence, Stirling, Theodore, Torrens, Turner, Wanniassa, Waramanga, Watson, Weetangera and Weston."
Now what is on the plan again now and what has changed � well I can guarantee you that half of the above suburbs can get greater than 12 MB already seeing though they are covered by VDSL � others listed aren't even Showing up on the list of being Planned � Yes Im looking at all of Tuggeranong in that !!.
What a F'en Joke !!!!!
All monash exchange suburbs were on the map and liberal removed it , nothing in the future !
Just a little reminder of where we should have been now :
Canberra Times March 30 2012.
"Canberra suburbs where work will begin before mid-2015:
But that wasn't a reality either, In labor days if you were a line in a spreadsheet you were almost done, and now its you need a box hanging off your wall with a blinking green light to even make the spreadsheet. There is no middle ground.
But that wasn't a reality either,
Maybe or maybe not ... but at least you could see your suburbs name on the plan.....
I guess the other point is that there are some that say the current rollout has not changed from the "original" plans its just been time delayed- well this clearly shows that this is Not the Case.
Ok, so 2 � months since they top hatted the rim in my street. Still can't get adsl2, time to assume it IS vdsl prep ?
NBN installer came and got NTD installed. Apparently I'm the first in my complex to do so and the building manager was in tow as well. The building manager wanted to observe as he's had a lot of queries re NBN installation. I think he was very grateful that I explained a lot of things to him.
In my complex, there are no power points near the door, so in my case I opted to have the fibre run just under the skirting board to a set of power points on the opposite side of my living room. I decided to do it that way because there are existing comms sockets, I'm hoping that I can just do some rewiring in the connection box (which is in the pantry) so I can use existing internal wiring. I haven't had a chance to look in the connection box but the sockets in each room are RJ45, so I'm hopeful that what I want to do will be reasonably straightforward.
The fibre they use inside the unit is grey coloured, flat, and sticks to the wall. The NTD needs to be 150mm off the ground up to a maximum height of 1.2m � so it's going to stick out a lot. I chose to have mine in a spot so that it'd sit behind my TV. I think a lot of people in my complex will opt to have their NTD in the kitchen.
Installation took about two hours total. According to the installer, there are only about six installers in Canberra that does this kind of NBN installation. He said I was lucky that I got in early otherwise the waiting time is going to be pretty epic.
I noticed on myNBN that more complexes in Civic went RFS between May and June, including some big-ish ones like 28 Mort. Interestingly enough, complexes like James Court still doesn't have a MPS-xxx ADA ID, I wonder if those are going to take a while.
Very excited, just waiting on Internode to send me an invoice so I can pay it and get on the Internets!
this link for ACT people
https://www.facebook.com/Gai
Cool. I had my install on Friday arvo, and went active this afternoon (thankfully I was away over the weekend otherwise I probably would've gone crazy). Similar kind of installation except I got a different bloke to my first appointment and he wasn't keen on the adhesive cable (said he didn't have any of the corner pieces and there was a 2 month(!) wait time on getting them) so we ended up with some halfway discreet conduit following the door frame and along the skirting board. Not the neatest looking thing ever but I didn't want to give him a hard time based on the workload he described to me.
Now I'm just torturing myself trying to get my new wireless router to give me consistent speeds across devices � wishing my apartment was wired with cat5 right now!
So here I am, living in the building right behind NNotNENN, and still waiting for the contractor to pull this green cable in our basement.
We have had everything installed for 6 months and the remaining work is a "24 hours job" according to NBN Co.
The installation was supposed to be completed by the 13th of January. Then late February. Then waiting for a cable in the street that came around April. Then was told 22nd of May according to Downer's agenda, then asked to wait another 2 weeks since they were busy etc etc.
Now, something I do not understand:
If you go to: http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/9CVI-01
And click on: "ADA info"
Why can't I find my box "9CVI-01-00-MPS-006"?
Why can't I find my box "9CVI-01-00-MPS-006"?
My guess is paperwork screw up. The building with bentspoke is like that as well � the MPS-xxx ADA ID isn't showing up. In their case apparently the building is RFS but it's just paperwork that NBNCo needs to fix.
Also as a side note, just because a building is showing RFS, don't get your hopes up 100%. I was chatting to my building manager while he watched the tech install my NBN, apparently a couple of weeks ago people tried to order NBN and had techs turn up, but when they did, they realised that the building had no signal in from the street. NBNCo took two weeks to fix that, and I happened to get lucky and was the first one to order it after it had been fixed.
My guess is paperwork screw up.
During on my NUMEROUS calls with NBN Co, I was told that my LOC ID is only linked to 8 units... We have like 50. When I give them my address (registered with the post office), they cannot find it on their system.
I sent all the info to them, hopefully they will bring me some good news next time.
EDIT: How did you know you were RFS? And what did you have to provide your ISP with, to get an appointment?
I was asked a building ID or something like that by my ISP, but NBN Co cannot give it to me since my address actually does not exist on their system.
EDIT: How did you know you were RFS? And what did you have to provide your ISP with, to get an appointment?
I knew when both TPG and iinet spammed my letterbox, after which I proceeded to verify on myNBN.
All I had to provide to my ISP(s) was my address. The first 10 people at TPG said it was no problem, until the 11th asked for a location ID (LOC000<9 digit number>) which I didn't know how to get at the time (now I realised myNBN has it). After which I said bugger that to TPG and went with Internode. Just signed up online with Internode and got an appointment within a week.
Also, the address part is a bit retarded in this regard. For TPG, only one variation of my address worked on their system, which I eventually had to figure out myself. With Internode, I signed up as "unit x" and it went through their system fine, but text message from NBN had it as "shop x". I was like whatever and got the tech to do the installation anyway, figured I can probably fix things later once the NTD is in place.
Well 'something' has happened, spotted a techie with a laptop doing more work on the rim since check my gaming latency has dropped (normally a 37-38ms ping to the LOL servers, now it's 18-20) quick call to Telstra says adsl2 is now available on my line (previously it was always a 'may be available')
See what happens when I start asking provisioning questions tomorrow during business hours
Sweet Monash will be starting 2018
How did u know about monash ?
Yesterday we met gai brodtman and jason clare in tuggeranong and he knows that the worst internet in canberra are all suburbs connected to monash exchange , gai will do campaign to push nbn for these suburbs and make it in the top list
Sweet Monash will be starting 2018
What is your source? Though not surprising, it was always going to be next on the list anyway.
ye what is your source?
ye what is your source
Common sense. If you notice carefully the current rollout is following the same order as the old published schedule. So just asking (and not asking you might I add) where the person had heard a firm date.
I presume 2nd half?
Yes that crossed my mind as a possibility too but why not just use Q3 or Q4 which is a protocol that most people understand.
FTTN or FTTP?
thank god that monash exchange is until the next election so maybe we have a chance for FTTP :D
ACT � Q3 2015
Hume, Jerrabomberra, Queanbeyan West
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ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Farrer, Greenway, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens,
Wanniassa
Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor,
Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson
Wow, what a big change in just over 6 months. In December it was these sites starting this FY.
Yes that crossed my mind as a possibility too but why not just use Q3 or Q4 which is a protocol that most people understand
It is all about granularity, and not sure what circles you move in, but H for half is very very common. Same with FY and CY for financial year and calendar year. Look at company financial results for example.
In this case it gives them a 6 month window and be right.
ye but they will get FTTN ! not FTTP like gunghalin
H for half is very very common
I disagree with it being very, very common. Never seen it before ..... in the circles I move in and no, you don't know the circles I move in.
Same with FY and CY for financial year and calendar year
Yes I've seen them before and they are common. 'H' � no.
Yeah wtf is H2?
Yeah wtf is H2?
2nd half of the year.
Must admit not common, but not unusual either in the business world.
I disagree with it being very, very common
It's very common in things that forecast a product release in the medium term future, e.g. video games publishers, movie studios.
I disagree with it being very, very common. Never seen it before ..... in the circles I move in and no, you don't know the circles I move in.
It's business and accounting speak which is very common if you've read financial performance of companies. 1HFY15 = 1st half FY15 = 1 July 14 to 1 Jan 2015.
E.g. http://www.asx.com.au/asx/sta
I assume the new ACT rollouts will be FTTN?
Yeah 2nd half of 2016 (others are listed as H1) I'm guessing the size of the rollout means it's a little harder to nail it to a quarter
eah 2nd half of 2016 (others are listed as H1) I'm guessing the size of the rollout means it's a little harder to nail it to a quarter
Still you'd think Q4 would work and if they started in Q3, no one would complain!
Updated build start tentative dates:
ACT � Q3 2015
Hume, Jerrabomberra, Queanbeyan West
ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Farrer, Greenway, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens,
Wanniassa
Ainslie, Braddon, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor,
Pialligo, Reid, Turner, Watson
Good to see new areas being added. Would have been nice if NBNCo finished all of Gungahlin off before moving on. [rant over from Casey stage 1 resident]
but its FTTN , why not doing all canberra is FTTP ! not fair
but its FTTN , why not doing all canberra is FTTP ! not fair
that's the way it is, don't like it, move to somewhere there is FTTP.
I like my 100/40 FTTP :)
I'm pretty sure it's the other older high rise next to QT (Rydges)
Thanks, k yeah I found 9CVI-02-00-MPS-083/9CVI-02-FTB-083 � it's Capital Tower aka 2 Marcus Clarke St. I had to click on the lower half of the building to get it to show up.
It's also interesting that myNBN is showing that some ADAs are inactive but have connected premises. (it's the inactive part that is wrong)
I'm going to be so annoyed if my house gets FTTN come second half of 2016, but if that happens, hopefully I'll have the option to convert to FTTP eventually even if it means ponying up the money.
Can someone educate me a little. I know my rim was just top hatted 3 months ago. I'm going to 'assume' (yeah don't laugh) the backhaul is decent enough between the rim and the exchange (and in turn from the exchange)
Pretending the above was true, what else would they actually be doing for a fttn rollout for me ? (I still want fttp but I'm not holding my breath and my fttn speeds would be good � sadly)
dont worry man , monash exchange not on the plan , and its after the election , so if labor win we will get FTTP and all this areas will stuck on FTTN ! and if i got fttn i will pay for fibre on demand
Has anyone from Coombs stage 1a/2(the one that just been released) area got their NBN?
so if labor win we will get FTTP and all this areas will stuck on FTTN !
I would take FTTN in the next 2 years over FTTP in maybe 5 or 6 years!
my 3-4mb link is killing me and is pretty much useless if I want to do any work from home and it is only going to get worse!
Good to see new areas being added. Would have been nice if NBNCo finished all of Gungahlin off before moving on. [rant over from Casey stage 1 resident]
Excluding the QBN areas they are not actually new areas added. They are new areas delayed, as they were announced in December 2014 starting mid 2015.
i wish the node close to u so u can reach 90mbps
Does anyone know what's happening for the NBN rollout into Lawson?
I'm guessing no-one wanted to comment about my query regarding what the fttn rollout entails if you're connected to a tophatted rim
I'm guessing no-one wanted to comment about my query regarding what the fttn rollout entails if you're connected to a tophatted rim
AFAIK RIMs are completely ignored when it comes to rolling out nodes. Generally the node will need to be a lot closer to the end-point than the RIM.
Does anyone know what's happening for the NBN rollout into Lawson?
Whilst it doesn't show on the NBN plans, it is a greenfields site so it must have something. I gather it doesn't show because it is up to the developer to arrange with NBN or another fibre provider.
AFAIK RIMs are completely ignored when it comes to rolling out nodes. Generally the node will need to be a lot closer to the end-point than the RIM.
I assume rims count though (i'm about 50-60m from my rim) as possible/probable nodes.
At a guess they'd build a node right next to an existing RIM to cater for short copper loops like yours, otherwise they'd have to extend the copper to the node, and that's nonsensical.
Assuming that the hardware they've installed inside the RIM/tophat hasn't already been setup to support VDSL.
Assuming that the hardware they've installed inside the RIM/tophat hasn't already been setup to support VDSL.
Thing is the tophatting was only done in march this year. So I've every reason to suspect it's vdsl1/2 capable. Hence why I was curious if it IS vdsl2 capable, what else would they be doing to make 'nbn' available here other than filling my letterbox with junkmail for overpriced carriers
ACT � H2-2016
Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham,
Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence
Would anyone know why Weetangera has dropped off the list of suburbs serviced by the Scullin exchange? I am worried we may never get the NBN at this rate!
Would anyone know why Weetangera has dropped off the list of suburbs serviced by the Scullin exchange?
I thought Weetangera was connected to Belconnen (like Macquarie, Cook, Aranda.
Reality is also Evatt, Melba, Mckellar, Flynn, Spence are connected to Melba (I think Fraser, Charnwood and Dunlop to) so it might not be exchange related.
edit - my bad - Weetangera is part of Scullin. I'd be a bit miffed, you can hope it's an oversight...
I thought Weetangera was connected to Belconnen (like Macquarie, Cook, Aranda.
Reality is also Evatt, Melba, Mckellar, Flynn, Spence are connected to Melba (I think Fraser, Charnwood and Dunlop to) so it might not be exchange related.
edit � my bad � Weetangera is part of Scullin. I'd be a bit miffed, you can hope it's an oversight...
Telstra and NBN exhcage areas are different. So it may well be that Weetangera, despite being connected to the Telstra Scullin exchange is planned to go onto the Belconnen NBN 'exchange'
Just like how Kaleen and Giralang are Crace for Telstra and Belconnen for NBN.
Telstra and NBN exhcage areas are different. So it may well be that Weetangera, despite being connected to the Telstra Scullin exchange is planned to go onto the Belconnen NBN 'exchange'
I shot an email off to NBN to clarify but no reply as yet. By the looks the Belconnen exchange has no date for an NBN build? If so I really hope Weetangera dropping off the Scullin list is just an oversight!
I shot an email off to NBN to clarify but no reply as yet. By the looks the Belconnen exchange has no date for an NBN build? If so I really hope Weetangera dropping off the Scullin list is just an oversight!
Doesn't look like a mistake. Go to the mynbn info site put in Weetangera and it has no info what so ever. Move to a Hawker, Scullin, page etc address and details come up.
HEY GUYS CHECK THE MAP NOW . THEY ADDED HUME AND HALF OF JARRABOMBRA TO GREEN COLOR
HEY GUYS CHECK THE MAP NOW . THEY ADDED HUME AND HALF OF JARRABOMBRA TO GREEN COLOR
Bit slow there. Go to page 61 of this thread, already covered.
Ye but thats good because hume is close to us , but they r lucky because its FTTP not FTTN
Ye but thats good because hume is close to us ,
Hume being close to Tuggeranong means nothing at all. Move on and accept we are years off even being announced not implemented, there are more important things in life than Internet.
what is happening in Lawson might be able to provide an informed response.
I thought Lawson was going to be serviced by transact fibre. Not sure about now, but that's what was in the Lawson development plan.
I thought Lawson was going to be serviced by transact fibre.
Thanks Sotko. I'll be interested to see if there is anyone else that comments.
I'll be interested to see if there is anyone else that comments
What you mean like me?
As mentioned NBN are doing it, as they are for all LDA developments.
What you mean like me?
As mentioned NBN are doing it, as they are for all LDA developments.
AJW
You're not providing any new or useful information so what value are you adding with your responses.
You obviously are experienced with telecommunication issues but .... is it look at me, look at me?
No point discussing this to death.
Lawson is being supplied telecommunication infrastructure by Transact � see section 4.6
Additionally iiNet (who bought Transact in 2011) sold their FTTP to NBN in 2013 so any new fibre run will be NBN.
Example from this article here;
iiNet noted that under the agreement, TransACT would complete construction of pit-and pipe infrastructure in some new estates where agreements were in place until 2017, and transfer ownership to NBN Co for no additional charge.
Lawson is being supplied telecommunication infrastructure by Transact � see section 4.6
Thank you P�draig.
You're not providing any new or useful information so what value are you adding with your responses.
I have provided the same response you got above twice now.
I just fail to understand what more you could want to know, the estate will have NBN. Asking the same question again and again doesn't change the answer.
Also will add my own experience here I am building in the last few streets of Casey which like Lawson was to be done by Transact and it only appeared on the NBN map when it became live. So I wouldn't expect anything to show on the NBN map in Lawson until then too.
Also out of interest even though it is now NBN gear that goes in the builder says they need to conform to Transact standards in this estate, which differs from NBN in that they install a metal enclosure (basically the same as the meter box) and the fibre gets terminated in there. He also said that's where NBN will install their gear, though I have asked for him to install a conduit to my data room as that is where I want the gear installed.
So 9CVI-01's cut off is Jan 2016, I wonder what happens when a developer screwed up?
A building in the current rollout area (within the purple shaded area) apparently wasn't done as a MDU during the rollout. One premise in that complex got connected, everyone else got told it's another 12-18 months before they can connect to the NBN. Wonder if their copper will selectively not be disconnected come Jan 2016?
Funny how the real estate agent was all "oh yeah this building will totally be NBN ready when you move in" then in reality the developer made a pretty epic mistake.
Saw some more digging going on top of Southern Cross drive in Latham the other day (looked like pipe/cable getting fed into a reasonable deep hole) couldn't see the business names or signage associated with it (it was slowed like roadworks in the immediate vicinity) so don't know if it's relevant or not. Can always hope it is.
Doesn't look like a mistake. Go to the mynbn info site put in Weetangera and it has no info what so ever. Move to a Hawker, Scullin, page etc address and details come up.
Yes does not look promising does it. I finally received a very non-commital reply from NBN -
"At this stage, it looks like Weetangera isn't going to be included in H2-2016. Possibly the design for the Scullin area has changed"
ADSL is just getting slower and slower, apparently "congestion relief" is underway for braddon exchange, they told me to expect the relief to be transition to NBN. I have zero confidence in seeing NBN in the next two years, it has been about a year and a half since NBN work on my building appears to of been abandoned, with fibre hanging from the wall in the building managers office. Scheduled to be disconnected from copper Jan 2016, fat chance.
Scheduled to be disconnected from copper Jan 2016, fat chance.
I dunno � copper disconnection might still happen on time regardless. :P
Soona, fasta, cheapa
Thanks to Malcolm and Tony, we'll be getting it later, slower and more expensive.
Thanks to Malcolm and Tony, we'll be getting it later, slower and more expensive.
I think if anything, Malcolm had very little say in it. He did what he was told to keep his minister position.
Things will probably change next year. How this affects the rollout in Canberra no one will know.
While we can whinge in Tuggeranong we never get anything, it may be ultimately to our advantage, as we may end up with FTTP. If the current liberal government stays in power we'll almost definitely get FTTN (Although this is going to take something like a war or a string of terrorist attacks and I sure hope that doesn't happen).
This is slightly off topic, but I know many Tuggeranonger's don't support the light rail. However on the bright side without lightrail, car parking in the city will just be harder and more expensive to find. So in reality Tuggeranong does benefit from light rail. As i just said, not getting NBN right now may also be a blessing in disguise. I've certainly hear rumbles about it being possible to switch back to FTTP under several provisions in the contract.
Has a sod of earth, even been turned in standing up a node in ACT/Scullin ?
Has a sod of earth, even been turned in standing up a node in ACT/Scullin ?
Yeah it was one of the first in the ACT. Greenfields in Macgregror!
But seriously your talking about the main rollout, the answer is no. It was meant to be now, but has, like all annouced rollouts in recent times been delayed for around a year.
Still not sure why they just don't buy Transact, except for Dunlop and a few other locations, most of west Belconnen has it.
Still not sure why they just don't buy Transact, except for Dunlop and a few other locations, most of west Belconnen has it.
That's for the Transact Fibre network which NBN brought ages ago. I am talking about the Transact VDSL2 network. Eg FTTN
https://iihelp.iinet.net.a
That's only the TransACT fibre network. The NBNCo hasn't purchased TransACT's/iiNet's FTTN/FTTB network.
With the iiNet/TPG merger going ahead, and TPG's inclination to directly compete with NBN on the infrastructure level with FTTB, I wouldn't be surprised if TPG refuses any future offer for NBN to buy the TransACT FTTN network.
Maybe TPG will even expand the VDSL footprint?
With the iiNet/TPG merger going ahead, and TPG's inclination to directly compete with NBN on the infrastructure level with FTTB, I wouldn't be surprised if TPG refuses any future offer for NBN to buy the TransACT FTTN network.
You could be right there, or at the very least they will have some fun with the government :-)
edit:(http://www.itnews.c
Maybe TPG will even expand the VDSL footprint?
FTTB is where the returns are. MDUs, yep.
(all IMHO)
I wouldn't be surprised if TPG refuses any future offer for NBN to buy the TransACT FTTN network.
If telstra were to gave up under govt threat then who is TPG?
FTTB is where the returns are. MDUs, yep.
The TransACT VDSL network does have a bunch of MDUs inside it's existing footprint that were never connected...
The TransACT VDSL network does have a bunch of MDUs inside it's existing footprint that were never connected...
That's interesting. Why weren't they connected?
That's interesting. Why weren't they connected?
Because the then ActewAGL owned TransACT needed agreement from a bunch of body corporates that weren't really interested. I think they also wanted the body corporates to pay some or all of the connection costs.
This was all a decade ago, so FTTB equipment would likely have been more expensive too � TransACT did basically go bankrupt several times.
I wish NBN would stop sending me letters about the good news that NBN is coming, oneday, probably never. Don't send me anything until it's actually happening. Bad news? Copper disconnection has been extended to August next year. So it'll probably be 2-2.5 years from fibre being hung in the basement of my building to actual NBN connection now, as they have another whole damned year.
Had a bit of fun with Telstra recently arguing that losing 1/3 of my ADSL speed in the last year isn't acceptable. Eventually got out of them it's due to congestion, but they tell me, congestion relief is underway! After a bit of probing, apparently congestion relief is "you'll go to NBN eventually".
Had a bit of fun with Telstra recently arguing that losing 1/3 of my ADSL speed in the last year isn't acceptable.
But of course Telstra offered to reduce the cost of your plan by 1/3 didn't they ..... (turns off sarcasm).
So just moved to a place in Kingston with the following:
https://www.dropbo
I've been told by body corporate the following:
- The plans offered by Signature Connect can be viewed at
http://www.signatureconnect.com.au
- With only recently introduced telecommunications infrastructure policy around the
NBN, not all retailers will be immediately available to connect to the telephony or
data network.
Am I stuck with a random no-named ISP having monopoly of my MDU? (please say no :( )
- The plans offered by Signature Connect can be viewed at
http://www.signatureconnect.com.au
I refuse to sign a 24-month contract with a brand new, unheard of ISP that only services one building. It's not transferrable when you move out and the early termination fee is the entire remaining balance of the contract, up to $2,675 for the 100Mbps plan.
Signature Connect told me they won't be the only provider available but, for obvious reasons, won't tell me who the others are. I've called all the major ISPs and none of them can offer any type of service at the address, neither NBN, VDSL or ADSL.
I've asked Controlability who built and installed all the tech (fibre, intercom, TV distribution etc) for a list of available providers but haven't heard back.
Given that Dockside has VDSL and Quayside has NBN, I'm thinking the Element developers have done an exclusive deal with Signature Connect that we, the customer, will end up paying dearly for.
24 month contract on awful plans? Goddamn!
Sounds like the kind of free market utopia that Turnbull and co wet themselves over.
Given that Dockside has VDSL
It doesn't really change the shit-fight that it appears Element is appearing to be, but doesn't Dockside have TransACT fibre � which is on its way to becoming NBN FTTP?
I know that the Waterfront, The Viridian, and The Gateway complexes have VDSL2, but they're older buildings.
So just moved to a place in Kingston with the following:
Am I stuck with a random no-named ISP having monopoly of my MDU? (please say no :( )
Who's physical address is in the northern territory....
They are offering 6 months if you call them at 10$ a month more. So 109$/m for the 1tb 100/40 byo router + 59.99$ setup
I called tpg who got me further than any other isp. They have escalated it and im waiting to see if they are willing to connect to the network. They said that i will be able to be on their nbn plans.
It has been a week since i called tpg no update yet. I might bite the bullet some time next week and go with signature connect for 6months if tpg doesnt have anything for me by end of next week.
You should contact some of the local ISP's and see if they are connecting to the network, From what I've read there is an open wholesale network operating in that complex.
It doesn't really change the shit-fight that it appears Element is appearing to be, but doesn't Dockside have TransACT fibre � which is on its way to becoming NBN FTTP?
No, that would be TransACT VDSL2. It has TransACT backhaul fibre. Nothing to do with NBN.
The network at Element appears to be a far cry from the "open" TransACT network, in that it's actually a wholesale only, layer 2 bitstream, NBN style, open network.
Count yourself lucky that you have FTTP where as other developments in your area are getting FTTB (VDSL2).
./cm
A change of the guard, it'll be interesting to see if Turnbull maintains the MTM policy now that he is free to do whatever he likes. I'm being wishful in thinking that he will advocate a return to a full FTTP rollout again.
We just need to make sure he isn't PM long enough to sell off NBN(co) once the project is complete.
it'll be interesting to see if Turnbull maintains the MTM policy now that he is free to do whatever he likes. I'm being wishful in thinking that he will advocate a return to a full FTTP rollout again.
I cant see any change happening, and certainly no movement in the space for ACT as we are not a marginal electorate. The only way a change may happen is if people start voting against those they normally vote for, swinging away from the major two parties.
I cant see any change happening, and certainly no movement in the space for ACT as we are not a marginal electorate. The only way a change may happen is if people start voting against those they normally vote for, swinging away from the major two parties.
Well we nearly voted out the liberal Senator, last time, despite a swing to the coalition in Australia. I doubt we'll get much change on the Labor house of rep seats or the senate seat though. Too many people vote the same party their whole life.
I did read about a town in northern england doing their own FTTP rollout. The villagers learnt how to do rollout the fibre, crowdsourced the funding from the residents and installed it. I think it was called B4RN. I was contemplating whether say a suburb or two could do that in the ACT. I suspect the legislation would prevent it here though.
I did read about a town in northern england doing their own FTTP rollout.
I'd like to see our local ACT Government work with (or apply to) nbn� to fund the difference between FttN to upgrade the rollout to the ACT to full FttP. This difference could then be added to the cost of our rates amortised over a 10 year period (to pull a time period out of my ...). This would in my opinion be a much better outcome for ACT residents.
Of course the best outcome would be if nbn� just rolled out FttP for all but well that's a whole nother story isn't it.
read about a town in northern england doing their own FTTP rollout. The villagers learnt how to do rollout the fibre, crowdsourced the funding from the residents and installed it. I think it was called B4RN. I was contemplating whether say a suburb or two could do that in the ACT. I suspect the legislation would prevent it here though.
It would have to work in conjunction with cooperation with ACT govt, as new conduit would have to be dug. Telstra would never allow use of their pits and ducting, neither would actew with the agreement with transact. At costs like $2k per metre to get things like that done with labour costs like they are here in Australia ...unlikely.
Transact won't be selling to nbnco anytime soon either now tpg own them (who I suspect want to compete with NBN)...act govt has already forked out a fair bit initially to keep transact afloat...
NBN (Telstra by proxy) hold all the cards...which is why labor were trying to take them out of the game with its policy.
Whilst it would be nice, and unfortunately think it will never happen.
I can't see much really happening in ACT in the near future, apart from those in the 18 month rollout exchange areas � assuming there isn't more delays (likely)
The only way rollout in the act is going to start to look better (ie. Fttp) is if a politician promises to make it so for the area, in the imminent election at the federal level.
So which ACT suburbs are not in the 3 year plan today... From my point of view most of Tuggeranong (south of Wanniassa and Oxley), which happens to be the most liberal voting part of Canberra :-)
So that means 2 federal elections away! At one stage we were scheduled for build prep now :-) I might move by then or there is every chance we'll have a different government!
At one stage we were scheduled for build prep now :-)
Yep, when I bought my house in Bonython December 2013 we were scheduled to be getting connected by now.
But now they are going to overbuild transact that has just upgraded people to 60Mb/s + and leave us with our 3-5Mb/s down south. Cant even get a decent deal as the Greenway exchange is Telstra only.
But now they are going to overbuild transact
Overbuild or buy the TransACT VDSL2 network? Must be overbuild, not every VDSL2 area has been listed...
So that means 2 federal elections away! At one stage we were scheduled for build prep now :-) I might move by then or there is every chance we'll have a different government!
Contracts are being signed I would strongly suspect
Overbuild or buy the TransACT VDSL2 network? Must be overbuild, not every VDSL2 area has been listed...
TPG would never sell TransACT network to NBNCo given they are competing with them as a wholesaler.
TPG would never sell TransACT network to NBNCo given they are competing with them as a wholesaler.
Yeah � they're probably annoyed enough that iiNet sold the TransACT fibre to the NBNCo.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/lear
Holy **** Tuggernong not even getting "NBN" until post 2018 meanwhile they are rolling out FTTN to areas that already have access too VDSL2.
What the F***!?
meanwhile they are rolling out FTTN to areas that already have access too VDSL2.
I was waiting for your post :)
So much for prioritising areas with crap "broadband".
Guys sign the petition That minister gai brodtman created , she is fighting for south side . We want more people to sign plzzz
Its somewhat a blessing though, all those areas get FTTN, Here in Tuggers, in 2019 sometime, its likely we will get FTTP (if Labor win) ;)
jason clare know exactly that monash to theodore are the worst suburbs regarding internet , and he promised in the meeting that if he became a telecommunication minister next election will put these suburbs first on the rollout before everyone in Canberra . because he believes worst areas first then good areas last .
oly **** Tuggernong not even getting "NBN" until post 2018 meanwhile they are rolling out FTTN to areas that already have access too VDSL2.
What the F***!?
Last time I looked Kambah, Oxley and Wanniassa were in Tuggeranong, they are getting it Q4-2016.
As for this wonderful new release, looks a lot like the one they announced a while back now, and then announced 6 months later. Only difference I can see is slipping of dates, and whilst not applicable to the ACT the inclusion of HFC sites.
jason clare know exactly that monash to theodore are the worst suburbs regarding internet , and he promised in the meeting that if he became a telecommunication minister next election will put these suburbs first on the rollout before everyone in Canberra . because he believes worst areas first then good areas last
Now Gungahlin is almost finished SOME Tuggeranong suburbs would be amongst the worst, along with most of Australia.
he promised in the meeting that if he became a telecommunication minister next election will put these suburbs first on the rollout before everyone in Canberra . because he believes worst areas first then good areas last .
Key words are "he promised" which means he'll tell you what you want to here.
Last time I looked Kambah, Oxley and Wanniassa were in Tuggeranong, they are getting it Q4-2016.
Yes, but his point is that suburbs like Kambah, Oxley and Wanniassa already have VDSL2 through iiNet/TransACT, which is FTTN and speeds of 40-80Mbps already, there is no point building NBN over it before suburbs like Banks, Conder, etc which have just ADSL.
Yes, but his point is that suburbs like Kambah, Oxley and Wanniassa already have VDSL2 through iiNet/TransACT, which is FTTN and speeds of 40-80Mbps already, there is no point building NBN over it before suburbs like Banks, Conder, etc which have just ADSL.
I read it as two separate issues really as there is overbuilding of Transact VDSL2 in the North too. In fact most of the northern suburbs listed, except for Dunlop, the golf course part of Holt and the new part of Macgregor have Transact VDSL, probably on better copper lines than the Telstra lines.
Yep, when I bought my house in Bonython December 2013 we were scheduled to be getting connected by now.
I've been in Bonython since 2001, when originally Transact would come along and tell me If i signed up to their mobile plan, I'd be among the first to get Transact VDSL, which never happened!
Now we are a low priority compared to other areas of Canberra with better internet.
I know there are worse than the ~ 8Mbps I get now, but I can only get Telstra equipment based plans (as no other ISP installed DSLAMS in Tuggeranong exchange due to it being mostly commercial), o that means i pay extra compared to others as well.
That was the good part of the original NBN. 93% of Australia would be on the same technology and could get the same services for the same costs.
Anyway, I can only hope by 2019+ the government has moved on and realise we need FTTP, who knows we might get that first while they upgrade all the FTTN mess.
I know there are worse than the ~ 8Mbps I get now
Depending on the phase of the moon and tidal phases that go along with it I get from 3.5 to 5.8. Usually just under 5. Left Weston Creek when we moved and had 10-11 there and thought I can live with half that for a year or 2. Looks like it will be more like 5+ years now.
The Telstra only gear in Tuggeranong is a PITA cant get any of the decent deals!
Yes, but his point is that suburbs like Kambah, Oxley and Wanniassa already have VDSL2 through iiNet/TransACT, which is FTTN and speeds of 40-80Mbps already, there is no point building NBN over it before suburbs like Banks, Conder, etc which have just ADSL.
Umm.. I live in Kambah and can't get transact, I'm on a rim, get 5Mb down, 384Kb down.. so there's plenty of point in building nbn in Kambah.
The problem with the rollout plan is the complete lack of detail... Kambah is a very large suburb, and what you can get varies greatly.
Umm.. I live in Kambah and can't get transact, I'm on a rim, get 5Mb down, 384Kb down.. so there's plenty of point in building nbn in Kambah.
That is unfortunate, I know that TransACT VDSL2 doesn't go into some areas which might have other agreements with the building agencies and things originally when it was rolled out (e.g. apartments, townhouse complexes, estates). But as you can see on the link below, the vast majority of Kambah is able to get VDSL2.
I think it would be more logical to roll out NBN to suburbs where they have 0% VDSL2 coverage and horrible copper networks.. It would be selfish of you to suggest that the whole of Kambah needs NBN just because maybe <10% of it cannot get VDSL2...
I think it would be more logical to roll out NBN to suburbs where they have 0% VDSL2 coverage and horrible copper networks.. It would be selfish of you to suggest that the whole of Kambah needs NBN just because maybe <10% of it cannot get VDSL2...
By that token it's selfish of 99% of the people on these threads to suggest anything that would help their own situation.
I'm not suggesting the whole of Kambah should get FTTN, I'd much rather the large chunk of Kambah that doesn't have transact get FTTP and the NBN purchases transact for the rest. It's a moot point though, NBN will do what ever the government of the day pleases... it doesn't have to make sense to us.
Doesn't Transact VDSL2 run over power lines? If so i don't quite get it because I am in Theodore and there is plenty of power lines around!! Correct me if i'm wrong but what's their excuse for not finishing the south side of Canberra?
Doesn't Transact VDSL2 run over power lines?
No.
Many of their cables are aerial, but they're physically separate cables to the power lines.
I'm not suggesting the whole of Kambah should get FTTN
The major parts of Kambah that don't have it are Glen Eagles estates, which don't have VDSL probably because of some body corporate not approving it, and a couple of townhouse complexes by the looks of it.. Building FTTN for just those areas seems a bit silly, since they are going to do the whole suburb anyway (they are not buying the TransACT network, I know, it's stupid).
So disregarding the fact that they should buy transact's network, it would be more logical to first rollout to suburbs without VDSL and then move to the areas with VDSL, as much as it sucks for the few in Kambah (and other VDSL suburbs) that can't get it.
The simple fact is if they roll out those small complexes in Kambah which don't have VDSL coverage, they are going to do the whole surrounding area, because they don't seem to care about VDSL coverage. This whole situation is stupid, and yes they should just buy VDSL network from transact, but it's the beauty of government bureaucracy means they won't.
Nonsensical farce: NBN massively overbuilding Canberra�s FTTN with � more FTTN
By that token it's selfish of 99% of the people on these threads to suggest anything that would help their own situation.
No. Transact only ran it to places where the power lines were overhead. Only reason was because ACTEWAGL owned the poles so Transact could just string their own cables up. For underground locations, they would have had to negotiate for pit access from Telstra or run their own.
I've been in Bonython since 2001, when originally Transact would come along and tell me If i signed up to their mobile plan, I'd be among the first to get Transact VDSL, which never happened!
You were clearly lied to. The Transact VDSL plan never ever had extended to places with underground power and phone lines due to cost.
Now we are a low priority compared to other areas of Canberra with better internet.
I know there are worse than the ~ 8Mbps I get now, but I can only get Telstra equipment based plans (as no other ISP installed DSLAMS in Tuggeranong exchange due to it being mostly commercial), o that means i pay extra compared to others as well.
One of the many reasons why Gunghalin was the priority area of Canberra. Sadly there are pockets such as where you live that are in the same boat. My place in Dunlop for example and anywhere else there are RIM's installed around town. Obviously the issue with RIM's and ADSL is like the Tuggernaong exchange no ISP is going to install DSLAMs in the street next to the RIM, except Telstra and even then only because they were dragged kicking and screaming.
Umm.. I live in Kambah and can't get transact, I'm on a rim,
Being on a RIM has nothing to do with it. Transact is delivered over their own cables. Seeing as your on a RIM I reckon you must be in Gleneagles, which has underground services. As mentioned above Transact never went to places with underground services, nor had any plan to do so. So that's the reason you cannot get it, rather than being a RIM. A RIM prevents you getting ADSL from anyone but Telstra, or a from another ISP as a Telstra Wholesale service.
Getting back to NBN, all this was meant to be fixed with NBN. But we all know what happened.
Transact only ran it to places where the power lines were overhead.
The Transact VDSL plan never ever had extended to places with underground power and phone lines due to cost.
That's not true.
I live in Kingston Foreshore. We have underground phone and power. We have TransACT VDSL2.
You were clearly lied to. The Transact VDSL plan never ever had extended to places with underground power and phone lines due to cost.
Yeah well aware of that. The first time they came, they made it sound like it was to get VDSL, so I signed up. Then I read the contract and it was just to transfer my home phone to Transact, so I cancelled it before the cooling off period.
I live in Kingston Foreshore. We have underground phone and power. We have TransACT VDSL2.
Yes new developments were done at the time. Just like some suburbs in Canberra were done in fibre by transact. Its existing suburbs without overhead wire that missed out.
By that token it's selfish of 99% of the people on these threads to suggest anything that would help their own situation.
Yes there is selfishness in general. But you could probably take this a step further and argue why are all the suburbs with a lot of VDSL being done ahead of those without VDSL. Not just Kambah which has pockets and thus could argue they get priority over a suburb with complete VDSL coverage. Thats why Gungahlin got fibre first in Canberra as they had woeful internet. Now they have world class internet and probably the next worse area in Canberra is Tuggeranong yet its being done last. Its a blessing and a curse, because anything started next year will be FTTN. However a miracle may occur and Labor wins (ironic as a miracle was needed for Liberals and Abbott to win again) and then according to what I've heard FTTP and also maybe fibre to the curb will be deployed where possible.
That's not true.
I live in Kingston Foreshore. We have underground phone and power. We have TransACT VDSL2.
Technically you are 100% right, there were exceptions like where you live but very few and far between and for the most part greenfields or FTTB. Kingston foreshore fits both bills.
But they are the exceptions, in suburbia, for the general rollout Transact never provided service underground and everything I said about the rollout being only delivered where there is overhead power is 100% true and they never had plans to go to underground power suburbs.
Is the Canberra Times, ABC and other local media outlets that inept as to completely neglect calling NBN and the responsible minister to account for this overbuild fiasco?
I'm sorry but that foul-mouthed blogger on Delimiter does not count as a media outlet.
I actually prefer the concept of an overbuild if TPG don't want to sell, gives us more options ;-)
"Us" being...?
Fine for some I guess.
Kambah is a very large suburb
It's actually the largest suburb (by area) In Canberra full stop (in fact I think it even surpasses some suburbs in other cities in that regard?)
Back on topic,
I'm on a rim, get 5Mb down, 384Kb down..
That's pretty impressive figures being on a RIM. I'm a few km's south of you, and have ADSL+ (not 2), and get roughly 3.5 to 4 download depending on weather, etc, and a bit over 800 kbits/sec upload (I thought it used to be 384, but somethings changed over the last month or two)
As far as the rollout is concerned though, the majority of southern Canberra may just as well not exist, and that includes Kambah. To date the CBD and newer areas have been looked after, and Queanbeyan (NSW) even has a look in. But any suburbs south of say, the Woden area? Well we may see something, eventually.
Interestingly our local member has taken a stance on this, and wants to hear from people in the area who want NBN, but have been put "on hold", and is supporting a petition.
Hey guys looking at buying our first house with Internet being our major priority.
Do you guys think VDSL 2 is fine? Or try get a new place with NBN FTTP while i can?
Do you guys think VDSL 2 is fine? Or try get a new place with NBN FTTP while i can?
Yes, VDSL2 is usually well over 30Mbps, but if you really need 100/40 and better latency you should investigate NBN FTTP, however that will severely limit your options of where you can buy a house. I wouldn't factor it that highly if VDSL2 is available at alternatives, but that's just me.
Do you guys think VDSL 2 is fine? Or try get a new place with NBN FTTP while i can?
FTTP is best, but VDSL2 is fine for most people at the moment.
FTTP gives you a fixed speed, VDSL is basically a broader-band version of ADSL (and hence generally faster).
If you were looking at two places that were identical in every single other aspect to you, except one had FTTP, and one had VDSL2, I'd go with FTTP. If you were looking at two places, and one of them is better than the other except that it has VDSL, and the other one has FTTP; I'd probably go with VDSL � but everybody places different values on different things.
Thanks for your info.
If im looking at buying a terrace house at Googong, as a first house.
How do i triple check that im getting FTTP and not FTTN ?
Is it a general rule of thumb that new place are all FTTP?
I just check the NBN co website, and i typed in where building is to commence, and it said NBN is available there
...
Googong is greenfields (new development) so it is FTTP. They don't bother building new developments with FTTN as there is very little point in doing so.
That's pretty impressive figures being on a RIM. I'm a few km's south of you, and have ADSL+ (not 2), and get roughly 3.5 to 4 download depending on weather, etc, and a bit over 800 kbits/sec upload (I thought it used to be 384, but somethings changed over the last month or two)
Not especially, I'm on a rim and was on adsl getting 7mbit down and 384 until they dslammed it 6 months ago, now it's 24572 down and 1084 up. You're also getting adsl2 if your upload speeds are more than 384...
I'm still wondering what they'd be doing to make it vdsl ready (I am under the 'impression' that vdsl in dslammed rim is entirely possible)
Googong is greenfields (new development) so it is FTTP. They don't bother building new developments with FTTN as there is very little point in doing so.
Thanks for the info, i thought that was the case, but who knows what the government is thinking sometimes lol
What annoys me is that I went for a walk and found a new sign stating "Underground Fibre". It was heading off in the direction of the as of yet undeveloped Tralee.
Bypassing Macarthur, Chisholm and Gilmore entirely. Places which aren't even slated for NBN until after 2018 and currently seem to get a max of 4-5 MB/s.
he major parts of Kambah that don't have it are Glen Eagles estates, which don't have VDSL probably because of some body corporate not approving it
There is no body corporate in Gleneagles. There's no transact because we have underground power lines, and we're on a rim because we're a long way from the exchange and telstra didn't have the copper available when the estate was built (20+ years ago now).
Has anyone had a non-standard installation done in an appartment? I don't want cable stuck to my ceilings which is what the standard install offers.
Who does a non-standard install? Do I need to organise a third party contractor to do the work?
What annoys me is that I went for a walk and found a new sign stating "Underground Fibre". It was heading off in the direction of the as of yet undeveloped Tralee.
Bypassing Macarthur, Chisholm and Gilmore entirely. Places which aren't even slated for NBN until after 2018 and currently seem to get a max of 4-5 MB/s.
That's a single backhaul run, so that as the suburb is developed the new homes can have fibre installed as they're built, rather than copper. If NBNCo didn't install that fibre run, someone would still have to install something so that those homes could have phone lines. 20 years ago that might have been Telstra installing a big copper bundle back to the exchange, or installing their own fibre to run RIMs or a sub-exchange in the new suburb.
Either way, don't be annoyed about it. The effort required to install that backhaul is a tiny fraction of what's required to install the last mile stuff in the suburb itself. Installing that backhaul for the new suburb is not in any way the reason those older suburbs haven't been done yet.
Has anyone had a non-standard installation done in an appartment? I don't want cable stuck to my ceilings which is what the standard install offers.
Who does a non-standard install? Do I need to organise a third party contractor to do the work?
I know a guy who engaged a third party contractor to do the cabling for his apartment, which meant he didnt have the aussie duct around the place. Get some quotes, speak to your neighbours too � may save money if you get a whole lot of your apartments done together (use your collective buying power)
i urge everyone to share and sign the petition in canberra , the minister will push in two weeks , she needs at least more 500 people
I've signed.
she said that she needs another 500 people to sign
FYI Gai hasn't said anything about fibre in her petition. ALP hasn't published their policy on this yet. She has just said she would prioritise the NBN for Canberra.
nope , i did the meeting with her and jason clare , she said that she wants to push for FTTP not FTTN
nope , i did the meeting with her and jason clare , she said that she wants to push for FTTP not FTTN
Nope, I was at the same meeting as well and at no time was this categorically stated. It was implied.
You need to understand that all bets are off with the new agreement.
If you choose to believe politicians who want to get elected and will say anything, thats fine. However until a published policy comes out from the ALP as to how and when and what they will deliver should they believe elected � you are being told what you want to hear.
you are being told what you want to hear
or in the case of some one "hearing what he wants to hear".
wtf is this? No letter box bombing, nothing, does this mean they've just run fibre to my basement and it's just luck of me checking availability to get it connected to the network port in my apartment?
Great news! You can now switch to the nbn� network.
The next step is to contact a phone or internet provider and order a plan over the nbn� network.
Your address will be connected to the nbn� network via fixed line technology. You need to contact a provider and choose a new plan that suits your needs, as you won't be automatically connected to the nbn� network.
edit: seriously, iinet says wireless NBN? The entire street is FTTP except my building. Like I want some congested high latency wireless at 250gb a month. I'll stick with ADSL.
they started nbn in tuggeranong , just at the new development infront of bunnings
Interesting that ACT Labor have a petition for the north side ...
Are you referring to this petition? http://www.gaibrodtmann.com.au/nbn_for_canberra
... but the south side being worse off gets no thought.
Seems to me that that petition (unless you're referring a different petition � although you have not provided a link) is for the whole of Canberra. Not just the north side.
Seems to me that that petition (unless you're referring a different petition � although you have not provided a link) is for the whole of Canberra. Not just the north side.
http://signup.andrewleigh.com/northsidenbn/
Not really understanding your complaint, since he's the rep for north side? Hell even his office isn't in his electorate, it ends at Haig Park.
Not really understanding your complaint, since he's the rep for north side? Hell even his office isn't in his electorate, it ends at Haig Park.
As a whole Canberra is represented by more than one minister, why is it that NBN depends on where the minister represents?
Sure alone its probably nothing but on the whole they don't really care about South Canberra or Tuggeranong.
Given they did nothing when Labor was in power to get NBN down south. However they all jumped around trying to get it for Gungahlin.
I'm not sure I understand your position? Given pretty much all of the fibre NBN is in Andrew Leigh's electorate or is scheduled to be rolled out with FTTN.
Why should all of Belconnen be connected before any of the southside brownfields?
Sure alone its probably nothing but on the whole they don't really care about South Canberra or Tuggeranong.
Would you and everyone else in Tuggers like to have one last whinge before the rest of Canberra stops caring for good � you lot sucked the treasury dry for two decades. Currently civil expansion is taking place in the Gungahlin region. Shortly most of the expansion is likely to be west of the Ginninderra/Belconnen region, and in the Brindabellas � at which point as large amount of the funds that have been directed at expanding Gungahlin will stop flowing there.
Given they did nothing when Labor was in power to get NBN down south. However they all jumped around trying to get it for Gungahlin.
At the time large parts of Gungahlin couldn't even get dial up; so yes, that region was prioritised for the rollout.
Why should all of Belconnen be connected before any of the southside brownfields?
Economies of scale. It makes more sense to concentrate the rollout in one area, and then move to another area once you're done, than to do a bit here, do a bit there, and hope it all connects up properly in the end.
We get it � the internet where you are is shit-awful. The internet in large parts of Belconnen, Bruce, Jamison, etc is shit-awful too.
As a whole Canberra is represented by more than one minister, why is it that NBN depends on where the minister represents?
Andrew Leigh is the Federal member for the electorate of Fenner. That is the northside of Canberra. Andrew Leigh is not a Minister. Andrew Leigh, as a Labor member in opposition, has no control over the LNP's (mis)management of the NBN/MTM rollout.
Given they did nothing when Labor was in power to get NBN down south. However they all jumped around trying to get it for Gungahlin.
When Labor was in Government yes NBN Co rolled out FttP in the Gunghalin area first. It is generally accepted that Gunghalin had the worst telecommunication infrastructure and internet services in Canberra.
Why should all of Belconnen be connected before any of the southside brownfields?
That's a matter you'd need to put to the current LNP Government and nbn� as to how they are prioritising the MTM rollout.
I thinks it fair to say that the rollout of NBN/MTM has been delayed under the LNP Government though. You can thank Malcolm Turnbull for that. The southside of Canberra would have been closer to getting the real NBN if the original FttP had been allowed to continue instead of the start/stop/start that has occurred under Malcolm Turnbull's stewardship.
We get it � the internet where you are is shit-awful. The internet in large parts of Belconnen, Bruce, Jamison, etc is shit-awful too.
I get 40/10..
you lot sucked the treasury dry for two decades.
which two was that? Southside gets 2nd rate internet like it does for schools and CIT. Southside students are the worst on NAPLAN surely internet would go some way to fixing that. Southside is an hour away by bus on weekends from civic, 15 minutes by car. Its absurd.
So on one hand tuggers gets screwed because of economies of scale and Gungahlin gets prioritised because of bad internet?
It couldn't have anything to do with the lack of Labor support down south?
There are parts of NBN connected down south, some greenfield sites are clearly FTTP, so your argument of economies of scale is odd.
Even parts of western creek and Kambah are getting NBN ahead of the rest of the south, in area's already serviced by TPG VDSL2.
I thinks it fair to say that the rollout of NBN/MTM has been delayed under the LNP Government though. You can thank Malcolm Turnbull for that.
As someone who had fibre in their building basement and hundreds of connection point pictures taken under Labor, then waited three years for the Liberals to test inferior technology and give us that instead, I'd have to agree there has been a massive delay in NBN. Could the Liberals NBN of been rolled out faster from the very beginning? Sure. But changing technology half way through has left Australia years behind.
My grandfather is in Dunlop, he can barely get 1mbps ADSL2. Downloading emails time out constantly, he's in a 3g Blackspot for Optus and Vodafone, and even Telstra only gets about 5meg on 3g. He's schedule to have construction start in a year, so let's call it three years until connection with these Muppets. Tell me how you're worse off in Tuggeranong and belco are theiving all your internet's and light rail.
Southside is an hour away by bus on weekends from civic, 15 minutes by car. Its absurd.
Depends where in the south you live, just like where in the north you live. I used to live in Dunlop which was close to an hour on the bus from the city too, and 25 minutes by car.
Also Tuggeranong in particular has a lot of issues simply because it is the furtherest town centre from the city and the only town centre that is a genuine double hop away (Woden/Weston Creek in between). That's a geographic fact that cannot be altered. That's why it takes so long to get to the city, why there has been no CIT to date (the current ones and the unis are more or less central to the bulk of the population), no hospital etc.
Now when it comes to Internet all the above matters diddly squat. Gungahlin got it first for good reason which was the whole area was built with RIM's and it was the worst place in the whole of the ACT for internet. Yeah yeah I know Tuggeranong has some RIM's too, but so does Belco (Dunlop, parts of Holt, Macgregor etc). Yes Tuggeranong has some house that are too far from the exchange, but so does Belco and pockets everywhere in the WHOLE country too. So really who gets what is based on how much you can build at once, and maybe a bit of politics thrown in.
But certainly don't describe to this Tuggernong gets screwed again mentality.
But certainly don't describe to this Tuggernong gets screwed again mentality.
Hear, hear.
As a whole Canberra is represented by more than one minister, why is it that NBN depends on where the minister represents?
None of the ACT's federal parliamentarians is a minister.
The only one who's a member of the Government is Senator Zed Seselja, and he seems quite happy with the Government's NBN policy. As a Senator, he's supposed to represent the whole of the ACT.
Andrew Leigh is the only ACT federal parliamentarian who has a ministry-level position, as Shadow Minister. In the new parliament, he will be Shadow Assistant Treasurer and Shadow Minister for Competition and Productivity, Shadow Minister for Trade in Services, Shadow Minister for Charities and Shadow Minister for Not-for-Profits.
Not being a member of the government, he isn't an, um, actual, minister.
None of the ACT's federal parliamentarians is a minister.
Minister : in the sense �a person acting under the authority of another�): from Old French ministre (noun), ministrer (verb), from Latin minister �servant�, from minus �less�.
The same as someone can be a minister in the religious sense....
Dictionary definitions don't make someone a parliamentary minister.
Especially when the dictionary I looked at gave as its first entry under minister:
1 (In certain countries) a head of a government department: 'the Defence Minister'
Added: LOL, Carcassone's quote seems to be from the same dictionary that I quoted from and is from the etymology, not from the actual meaning of the word. Etymology is not meaning.
The very wording of his quote should have been a dead giveaway that it was etymology, but I didn't pick it straight off.
But it's not a direct quote of that, either. The full quote is:
Origin
Middle English ( in sense 2 of the noun); also in the sense 'a person acting under the authority of another'): from Old French ministre (noun), ministrer (verb), from Latin minister 'servant', from minus 'less'. Highlight is the part omitted by Carcassone.
Sense 2 is the sense of a "religious minister".
But then, AFAIK, none of the ACT federal parliamentarians is a religious minister, either :D
Why should all of Belconnen be connected before any of the southside brownfields?
Actually it isn't. About half of Belconnen is not on the current schedule, only the western part refered to as the Scullin (covering Acton, Charnwood, Dunlop, Evatt, Florey, Flynn, Fraser, Hawker, Higgins, Holt, Latham, Macgregor, McKellar, Melba, Page, Scullin, Spence) is, starting in Q4 2016.
Also starting in Q4 2016 is the Kambah region (covering Farrer, Isaacs, Kambah, Mawson, O'Malley, Oxley, Pearce, Torrens, Wanniassa), which unless I am mistaken is south and brownfelds, with Deakin (covering Chapman, Chifley, Curtin, Deakin, Duffy, Fisher, Garran, Holder, Hughes, Lyons, Phillip, Rivett, Stirling, Tharwa, Waramanga, Weston, Yarralumla) slated for H2 2018, which is also south and brownfields.
The rest of Belconnen and North Canberra is NOT on the current rollout schedule.
So in actual fact based on the current schedule it is about a 50/50, with North Canberra and east Belconnen missing off the schedule. And South Canberra (essentially around Kingston etc) and the southern parts of Tuggernong missing off the schedule.
Anyway lets not let facts (or dictionary definitions) get in the way of a good rant.
Source:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/lear
Scroll down just past the first page, the Canberra region is at the top of the list.
It's debatable whether you actually would want to be on the rollout schedule at this point anyway, unless you prefer FTTN over FTTH.
I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised if the areas that get NBN *later* actually get FTTH or similar.
True.
The rest of Belconnen and North Canberra is NOT on the current rollout schedule.
I beg to differ. The Inner North is in the 3-year plan, apart from 9CVI-01 (Turner, Braddon) and 9CVI-02 (City, Acton) which were started before the "adults took control" and are already laid out as FTTP.
The rest of 9CVI is due to commence in Q4 2016, AFAIK with FTTN, though I know that parts of it already have the main FTTP distribution ring fibre installed. That's Ainslie, Campbell, Dickson, Downer, Hackett, Lyneham, O'Connor, Reid, Turner, Watson.
That doesn't include any of Belconnen, though.
I get 40/10..
...and you're complaining of second rate internet?
Well, I suppose that is second rate compared to FTTP. But it is far superior to anything that was available in Gungahlin, which I guess by your rating system must be 3rd or 4th rate. I have only just got my FTTP connection a few weeks ago, but before that I've had 16 years where the absolute best I could do was 3.5 down. This was more typical: http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5425024935, unless it had been raining.
I'd have jumped at anyone able to offer 20/5, let alone 40/10, over the last 15 years. That is crazy fast speed for pre-NBN Gungahlin.
beg to differ. The Inner North is in the 3-year plan, apart from 9CVI-01 (Turner, Braddon) and 9CVI-02 (City, Acton) which were started before the "adults took control" and are already laid out as FTTP.
Yeah right you are missed that one in the list... So lets make it north/south 60/40 in 3 years time. Though add in QBN which is part of the ACT rollout and you get your 50/50 again.
the absolute best I could do was 3.5 down
You don't have to be in Gungahlin to get ADSL speeds < 5 Mb/s. I'm in Hackett and when I was on ADSL, I was getting a but under 4Mb/s. Now getting 48/10 on iiNet (non-NBN) VDSL2.
I'm in Evatt and get around 6mpbs. It fluctuates though. The upload speeds of the NBN or even VDSL2 is of more interest to me though. 1mbps just doesn't cut it when you're trying to backup large chunks of data to cloud backup services.
The most galling thing is that I have Transact cable running past my house on the power poles, but the cable is not connected to anything at the end points.
Talk about low hanging fruit. For a relatively small outlay by iinet, 3 more suburbs could be brought online for VDSL2.
The Inner North is in the 3-year plan
Indeed. "ACT Civic" as it's called should be struck off the list until such time as they willing to give us FTTP. I'll stick with TransACT VDSL2 in the meanwhile.
"ACT Civic" as it's called should be struck off the list until such time as they willing to give us FTTP
Ummm... As I said in my post, the City area (in 9CVI-02) isn't in the 3-year plan, because it's already in service with FTTP. It went RFS in May 2014.
You don't have to be in Gungahlin to get ADSL speeds < 5 Mb/s
Yep. I didn't mean to imply there was anything unique to Gungahlin for crappy internet connections.
My point was that being stuck on 40/10 while waiting for a higher speed connection is a problem that a lot of people would like to have.
...and you're complaining of second rate internet?
Could you point me to where I complained and I'll amend it?
As I said in my post, the City area (in 9CVI-02) isn't in the 3-year plan, because it's already in service with FTTP. It went RFS in May 2014.
Yeah but the city area comprises one small part of the area covered by the Civic service area.
The NBN rollout in the ACT, unless you are one of the lucky ones to buy a brand new, multi function house in the newest suburbs in the last two to three years, has been non-existent.
Many ACT residents don't even get a choice of which provider to use for Broadband, let alone NBN! ie: Telstra, Optus or the other ISP's such as iiNet (the latter is trying to get there, but hamstrung). By cost or heavy weights I don't know, I'm suspecting the former, and the consumer is screaming for a better deal!
Sucks not to be in the more affluent suburbs of Braddon, or Ainslie (parts of) that have NBN, even the Parliamentary Triangle � who would have thought!!? Nor the new suburbs of Moncrieff, etc, which I have noticed with some humour you can get NBN, as long as you pay the developers upfront costs first. Before you actually apply for NBN.....
Meanwhile the older suburbs suffer with sub-standard Broadband
Sucks not to be in the more affluent suburbs of Braddon, or Ainslie (parts of) that have NBN, even the Parliamentary Triangle � who would have thought!!?
Actually no part of Ainslie has it. Braddon the city end and the CBD yes, but do of course remember that Braddon and the inner north was starting to ramp up just before the 2013 election and we know the result of that.
As for the Parl triangle, only parts that have it there are new apartment buildings, which is what you would expect.
The Canberra region hasn't been totally quite though, QBN has had brownfields FTTP rolled out, with Jerra coming online now. No surprises seeing as that was a marginal electorate and one area where I do think the continuation of the rollout was political.
Also coming online has been Nicholls.
And are you sure that Moncreif residents are being double charged or are you confusing something with the new development charged of $300, which is a NBN charge and is paid after you apply and are connected.
And yes older suburbs do suffer, but again refer to 2013 election and the policy change of the government for the root cause of that.
QBN has had brownfields FTTP rolled out, with Jerra coming online now. No surprises seeing as that was a marginal electorate and one area where I do think the continuation of the rollout was political.
In my opinion the rollout to the Queanbeyan region was definitely pork barrelling and political. It's my impression that they were moved up the queue. As I'm for FttP the more residents that get it the better and the residents of Queanbeyan were no more deserving or any less deserving than anyone else. The only difference is that future roll out areas will get the far inferior FttN.
Indeed. "ACT Civic" as it's called should be struck off the list until such time as they willing to give us FTTP. I'll stick with TransACT VDSL2 in the meanwhile.
Unfortunately it's a pointless protest. Fortunately for me I'm getting full 100mbps from FTTB. Better than 60 on TransACT, and I don't have to deal with confused iiNet support who aren't sure what TransACT is. At least iiNet VDSL is better than the awful shambles that was TransACT before it.
Sucks not to be in the more affluent suburbs of Braddon, or Ainslie (parts of) that have NBN,
Braddon have it SO great, it did take three years from Labor running fibre to my basement, to liberal cancelling our FTTP install and finally giving us FTTB though. Meanwhile my ADSL sync went from 22mbps to 12mbps, with "no fault" on Telstra's end, as they are performing nothing more than required maintenance on the exchange in preparation for users moving to NBN. So far I've had NBN for three months, and I still can't find a gigabit wireless AC VDSL2 modem all in one (not bridging, no interest) that isn't stupidly overpriced while having no guarantee's it will work properly on NBN due to tight requirements.
The NBN rollout in the ACT, unless you are one of the lucky ones to buy a brand new, multi function house in the newest suburbs in the last two to three years, has been non-existent.
Except that almost all of Gungahlin region has NBN now, mostly FTTH � half of which was Brownfields rollout.
Many ACT residents don't even get a choice of which provider to use for Broadband
How many would that be? Almost every home in the ACT has a choice of broadband providers via ADSL from multiple providers' DSLAMs at their exchange, or at least via Telstra Wholesale from their RIM. I don't deny that a bunch of homes have what I would term poor connections (sync speeds below, say, 3Mbit and/or unreliable sync) but they have connections nonetheless.
Perhaps you meant choice of last-mile provider? Then there's the option of TransACT VDSL2 for probably 80k of the ACT's ~140k residences. VDSL2 and wireless (not 3G/4G) from a handful of other companies for maybe 10-20k residences, too.
Nor the new suburbs of Moncrieff, etc, which I have noticed with some humour you can get NBN
I don't see anything funny about that. NBN FTTH for greenfields developments has been policy of both political parties for several years now. This is the case all around the nation. It seems perfectly sensible to me.
As I said in my post, the City area (in 9CVI-02) isn't in the 3-year plan, because it's already in service with FTTP. It went RFS in May 2014.
I don't disagree. A say "Civic, as it's called" as that's what NBN(co) have named the Inner North region in the Three Year Rollout plan, in defiance of local convention.
I don't disagree. A say "Civic, as it's called" as that's what NBN(co) have named the Inner North region in the Three Year Rollout plan, in defiance of local convention.
Local convention is irrelevant, because they use the name of the Telstra exchange that houses the NBN gear to describe the service area. So Civic it is.
So take the western half of Belconnen, it is called Scullin, but covers more than just Scullin. In fact it covers the area serviced by BOTH the Scullin and Melba Telstra exchanges (Melba wasn't going to house any NBN gear under FTTP, not sure under FTTN) so a dozen or so suburbs in all. But no one calls that part of Belconnen Scullin.
A say "Civic, as it's called" as that's what NBN(co) have named the Inner North region in the Three Year Rollout plan, in defiance of local convention
It's named "Civic" because it's the Civic exchange area. Within that, the part that's called "Civic" by normal folk is called "City" in the plan. I agree that the naming is confusing, but that's what the exchange is called.
Perhaps it's better to stick with calling it 9CVI.
NBN FTTH for greenfields developments has been policy of both political parties for several years now.
I'm not sure that I actually agree with you there. nbn� under the management of the LNP do not have a policy of FttH for greenfield developments. The writer is unsure if it was ALP policy too. I don't think that it was but ..... In fact Telstra (where they are installing in new developments) have found it to their (financial) advantage to install copper. As I understand it Telstra will also pocket a fee when these premises are moved over to the MTM network.
Asked to comment on why it was deploying copper to new estates instead of fibre, a Telstra spokesperson said the decision was due to policy laid down by the Government.
�Consistent with government policy, developers are free to pick the carrier of their choice to deploy the infrastructure they need, whether it be fibre or copper, to their new estates,� they said. �Under the current regulatory settings we can�t roll out a fibre network and then retail voice services over it, so where we are approached by a developer to build new telecommunications infrastructure we roll out copper.�
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Crazy huh?
Think you will find that when a new development comes up the developer needs to provide the FTTP infrastructure. They do this by going to NBN or one of the other providers of infrastructure. Such as Transact who used to do greenfields in Canberra, but around the country there others.
Now if the development is under 100 homes then Telstra can be called in as a supplier of last resort and they can install fibre or copper, and developments over 100 homes it is NBN and fibre.
Not going to read each article you have linked above, but the first one I opened about Telstra deploying copper seems to talking about small scale developments as per what I wrote above.
... but the first one I opened about Telstra deploying copper seems to talking about small scale developments as per what I wrote above.
I was responding to Grrrrrr's comment about NBN FTTH for greenfields developments has been policy of both political parties for several years now. .
Now if the development is under 100 homes then Telstra can be called in as a supplier of last resort and they can install fibre or copper, and developments over 100 homes it is NBN and fibre.
Yes and? Grrrrrrrr's comment about the policy of both political parties may have been in response to discussions about greenfield developments in general but it can as easily be taken to greenfield developments of any size, including under 100 homes.
Think you will find that when a new development comes up the developer needs to provide the FTTP infrastructure.
Those articles I linked (if correct) would contradict your statement. The articles say that it can be copper.
Happy to be corrected.
Edit: For full disclosure I actually couldn't be bothered reading fully through the articles in detail again either from when they were discussed at length in another thread.
nbn� under the management of the LNP do not have a policy of FttH for greenfield developments.
FTTP is the only option discussed for Greenfields in the NBN Corporate Plan. http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
NBN FTTP is currently planned for 2.4m premises (page 39) and we know that the vast majority of Brownfields sites will be FTTN (or FTTdp) from now on, meaning most of the 2.4m FTTP number will be Greenfields.
In fact Telstra (where they are installing in new developments) have found it to their (financial) advantage to install copper.
But that's Telstra doing whatever they can get away with, and not a reflection on government's policy for NBN(co).
But that's Telstra doing whatever they can get away with, and not a reflection on government's policy for NBN(co).
Of course it's a reflection on Government policy for the development of our national telecommunications network. Government policy can regulate that only fibre be installed in Greenfield estates. I don't expect that the current Government would be at all interested in doing that though considering their ideological move from 93% FttP to the rollout of the inferior and more expensive FttN copper solution. nbn� have demonstrated that they will buy more copper for their FttN solution.
Of course it's a reflection on Government policy for the development of our national telecommunications network.
Now you're being obtuse. We were discussing NBN policy/plans (as dictated to them by the government of the day) and not telecommunications regulations as they apply to other parties.
You said that NBN don't have a policy on greenfields FTTH � but I have shown that they plan to install it to millions of homes.
Competitors (inc Telstra) can roll out whatever they want, presumably as long as it fits in NBN-specced pits and pipes. Of course NBN can also roll out other technologies � we all know LTE is going to be used in rural areas. They may even extend FTTN or HFC from adjoining areas if they can, but FTTH was and still is planned for a number of areas � as seen on the 3 year plan.
There appears to be some rodding and roping in preparation for nodes in Kambah happening today.
Been seeing some fibreglass poles going around Kambah recently. Not sure if they are for anything NBN related they seem to be spread around.
Been seeing some fibreglass poles going around Kambah recently. Not sure if they are for anything NBN related they seem to be spread around.
Are they just part of ActewAGL's pole replacement program? When they went through our part of Hackett a year or so ago, most of the new poles were two-section fibreglass poles.
They look really short. Less than a car length in size but it could be.
http://www.canberratimes.com
I've seen a few myself � are these the pipes that are sitting on nature strips every now and again, about half the height of a power pole?
hey fellas i wanna tell u that DGTEK will add the future rollout places after commsday at 5 october . the support told me this today : South Canberra and Adelaide plans already submitted for the consideration
and they told me that they are interested in rolling out fibre optic in south canberra at tuggeranong suburbs as they knew that these suburbs dont have nbn for the next decade and the internet is so slow too !
are these the pipes that are sitting on nature strips every now and again, about half the height of a power pole?
The fibreglass power poles they used around here were in two sections, so given that there's overlap at the join (the top section sits over the outside of the top of the bottom section), and the bottom bit is buried, each section is around half the height of the pole above ground.
They're dark grey as in the link Carcassone posted, tapered, and the narrower (top) section has a flattish conical cap.
The picture in the link that Carcassone is the type of pole that was used around here.
They can be assembled and installed without powered equipment. The bottom half of the pole is set in the hole, and the hole back-filled. Then they strap a steel pole with a block and tackle on it to the side of the bottom half. That's then used (human power only) to lift the top section up (with the pole section hanging down vertically) and let it down over the top of the bottom section. Then the lifting pole is taken off. I was quite impressed at how it was done :)
They look really short. Less than a car length in size but it could be.
Thing
Yep. That looks like the bottom half. You can see the bolt holes in the top end (the far end in the "Thing" photo) that's used for the bolt(s?) that secure the thing together once it's done. The wooden blocks on the top and bottom are just for protection when transporting (and stacking?).
There appears to be some rodding and roping in preparation for nodes in Kambah happening today.
It's weird being on the monash exchange.
Dialup speeds, not on the 3 year rollout, yet thankful because I hope we get an early election (this Parliament is literally unworkable) and Labor might win and switch back to FTTP just in time.
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