On my phone, line 2 is showing 2881 (hours) which equates to about 3 months and this is about how long I've had the phone
You can take Alex on his word, he is very straight forward. He wouldn't sell you refurb as brand new.
to bring up the IMEI on a mobile phone.
Exactly why I remember that code.
Even with this additional info, I still couldn't find more on Google relevant to the Gigaset.
I thought it is weird too.
Received my Gigaset a few days, as a replacement for the 7390 Fritz. So far I'm pretty happy... but I have a couple of questions / problems :)
1. I haven't actually been able to answer a phone call. The phone rings, I pick it up, nothing. Hang up, the phone continues to ring. Ad nauseam.
Whoever was trying to call, generally then calls my mobile, which is why I haven't leaped to the conclusion that the calls are dreaded phantoms.
2. Can I send SMS via Telstra fixed line, or via my VoIP (SipTalk) provider? I've tried adding this number for telstra: 019833910 from another thread, but that isn't working
I haven't actually been able to answer a phone call. The phone rings, I pick it up, nothing. Hang up, the phone continues to ring.
When the phone rings and you pick the handset up, then press the green button, are you able to accept the call?
If so, your handset probably isn't set to answer automatically on pick-up. Try this:
Menu > Settings > Telephony.
Is there a tick against Auto Answer?
If not, click on Change, then press Back until you are back on the home screen.
If there's a tick against Auto Answer, your handset should automatically accept the call on pick-up without having to press the green button.
2. Can I send SMS via Telstra fixed line, or via my VoIP (SipTalk) provider? I've tried adding this number for telstra: 019833910 from another thread, but that isn't working
Don't think that feature is supported by any VSPs in Australia.
Menu > Settings > Telephony.
Is there a tick against Auto Answer?
If not, click on Change, then press Back until you are back on the home screen.
This is ticked. I can't accept a call no matter what I do. Just keeps ringing, I answer it, (pickup the handset, or press the green button) and it is a sort of dead line. Hangup, and it keeps ringing. etc.
Don't think that feature is supported by any VSPs in Australia.
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Thanks Viper6. If it worked with Telstra (as some people claim: /archive/1949158) that would be nice though.
I can't accept a call no matter what I do. Just keeps ringing, I answer it... and it is a sort of dead line.
Do you have the latest firmware installed?
Are you having this problem for incoming calls on Telstra PSTN line or SipTalk line or both?
Hey, sorry for delay.
The calls are coming on the Telstra PSTN line.
I don't have a SipTalk DID number.
I have the latest firmware.
The calls are coming on the Telstra PSTN line.
Do you have an ADSL filter on the phone line into the Gigaset base? If yes, try a different filter (assuming you don't have a central filter).
If still no go, try reverting to the phone you had been using. Does the problem still occur? If so, contact Telstra.
If not, try a different lead from the wall socket to Gigaset base.
If still no go, try a factory reset of the Gigaset.
If still no go, try reverting to the phone you had been using. Does the problem still occur? If so, contact Telstra.
Hi, thanks this was the problem it seems. Faulty line. Everything works, but incoming calls. Now to get someone to fix it...
Are there any alternatives to the L410 speaker phone thing that would pair with the C610(A)IP and are sold in Australia?
I've noticed that my C610AIP base has been randomly rebooting over the past week or so. Also, yesterday I received a call from sip:anonymous@anonymous on my nodephone VoIP line.
I'm not sure if the two events are related in any way or if perhaps someone is trying to hack into my base to gain access to my credentials. I also have a static IP address which may or may not be relevant.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Does anyone know if you can swapout the standard batteries with some Sanyo Eneloop's or otherwise in the C610 series?
I tried some higher capacity NiMH (1,000mAh) in the the A58H and the C610 handsets, and they didn't work well. The standard ones are 700mAh.
Bought some Fujitsu 800MaH low self-discharge batteries (Eneloop knock-offs), and after a full charge, both handsets last more than a week off cradle with light use.
Anyone know the best batteries to get for replacement ?
Lost the original batteries to one of my C610 handsets. AAA Rechargeable, NiMH ?
My other handset has 700Mah Rechargeable.
Anyone know the best batteries to get for replacement ?
AAA, 1.2v, 550 to 1000 mAh, NiMH
(Supplied batteries are 800 mAh)
Anyone know the best batteries to get for replacement ?
Well, our 610's killed the standard batteries about 6 months ago (wouldn't hold enough charge to make a phone call, died almost instantly when using hands free despite the battery meter showing full charge) so I dropped into DS and picked up a set of Eneloop HR-4UTGB-4TA 800mAh. They have now died as well, so I bought a MAHA C9000 and a set of Imedion's.
The phones sit on the cradle all the time except when making calls. I don't know if that is a good idea, maybe not?
Anyway, I swapped in the Imedions and put the eneloops in the charger with the result that the charger displays 'High' and won't charge them. So according to MAHA these near new eneloops are cactus with high impedance. Bugga.
I hauled out the original 700mAh batteries and have started a break-in cycle on them in the MAHA with the idea that if they come up ok I'll use them as backup for when I run a refresh on the Imedions every so often. The question is, how often should I do that, and should i just run a break-in cycle on them?
The phones sit on the cradle all the time except when making calls. I don't know if that is a good idea, maybe not?
That is what we have been doing and our batteries last for years. Whenever you insert new batteries (or remove batteries then re-insert them), it is important to charge them until they indicate full. Once fully charged, remove the handset from the cradle and do not place it back on the cradle until the batteries are completely empty and the handset shuts down. This usually takes a few days with normal use. Then place the handset back on the charger and leave it there until the batteries are fully charged. Once that is done, you are free to operate the handset normally, i.e. use it to make calls then put it back on the charger or leave it off as you please. Failure to follow this initial procedure when replacing batteries can cause all sorts of problems, mainly due to the fact that the battery status indicator will not be displaying correctly.
If you read the manual, you will find this procedure explained in detail. Some people might find it a bit of a PITA but you only need to do it once and, as long as you don't remove the batteries, you should get many years of trouble-free operation.
Failure to follow this initial procedure when replacing batteries can cause all sorts of problems, mainly due to the fact that the battery status indicator will not be displaying correctly.
Ok, will try this, but the issue is that the phone shuts down whilst displaying a full battery after it has been sitting on the cradle for ages (like a couple of days) If the phone thinks the batteries are full why does it shut down?
It's not an indicator problem � the eneloops are cactus! It may be some other problem like the eneloops can't survive constant charging and should have been cycled.
(wouldn't hold enough charge to make a phone call, died almost instantly when using hands free despite the battery meter showing full charge)
The handset here at home was doing similar after about 9 months. After a trying few things over a couple of months (none that involved replacing the batteries), nothing proved successful.
For other reasons, the base station got a hard reboot, ie, a power off/power on. After that I noticed that the battery life improved back to what it was when new...
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Worth a shot??
Long shot � yank the cord on the base station (the one that plugs into the router, not the charging station), then plug it back in & let it come back to life. See if the helps.
Your referring to a power reset of the base station?
EasyBB writes...
Hit the menu button, then enter *#06#, a bunch of numbers will be displayed on the screen. I think the second line is handset usage time in hours.
hmmm � I'm not sure the figures returned are valid
22745
That's an awful lot of talk time!
I know I didn't get the handset when they first came out, which according to the announcement in this thread, was around August 2011, that would make it 3 years old maximum, I say closer to 2 years from memory
Even at 3 years, clocking up 22745 hours would have to be handset registration time, that cannot be actual talk time as that equates to just over 20 hours a day! I know the family can talk but they don't use the handset that much lol
Time to dig out the original purchase receipt and see how long ago it was and then to ask Maxo what they are prepared to do in terms of assisting towards a new unit as a replacement.
I'm not expecting them to cough up a new handset for nothing but I would think that perhaps getting a replacement for say 50%?? of the purchase price wouldn't be unreasonable considering the cost of these handsets and how long one would expect them to last
Thankfully I have 4, err, 3 of these things, so loosing 1 handset isn't killing me yet
EDIT:
ok, it looks like I purchased this handset in Dec 2011, that makes it 2 years 7 months old, still a little young to be packing it in I think. I'd consider a 30% discount off a replacement phone as reasonable for warranty � let's see what Maxo have to say � one can only ask I guess...
EasyBB writes...
hmmm � I'm not sure the figures returned are valid
22745
That's an awful lot of talk time!
I am sorry if I mislead you and others. It is not the talk time but 'powered' time. So your handset was powered on for about 2.6 years (22745 hours) in total.
I am sorry if I mislead you and others. It is not the talk time but 'powered' time. So your handset was powered on for about 2.6 years (22745 hours) in total.
That's ok � maybe I read it wrong!
Anyhow, it's fairly accurate because I ordered the handset 2 years 7 months ago � so the figure being returned by the handset is accurate!
Wow � that's service!!!
I sent an email to Maxotel support highlighting my side of the story and invited them to discuss the phone situation from a warranty perspective � no demands, just wanted to start with a discussion
Alex responded with additional information that I took into account and from there we came to an agreement
I'm happy with the outcome and it's great to deal with a company who not only sells you a product but is prepared to discuss things and find a way forward when things don't go smoothly or as expected
Maxotel have resolved the issue to my satisfaction (and no, that didn't include just rolling over to my demands � I didn't want that anyhow � I wanted to start with a discussion and work towards a happy medium, which is what happened)
Thanks Maxotel for your great service :-)
p.s. Because every circumstance is different I will not post what the agreement was because everyone's circumstance is different and involves different factors � all I will say is that Alex/Maxotel listened and through negotiation the issue is resolved amicably. It was a breath of fresh air compared to the stonewalling some companies can put up when it comes to such matters
- I wonder if Siemens want the dead phone to look at it to determine why/how it failed? I'm a stickler for product improvement but I suspect the model's design if fixed in stone already and that future models probably will not take into account this phones failing
Is there anything else I can try?
Just out of curiosity, did you try resetting the offending handset?
This can be done pressing Menu > Settings > System > Handset Reset. Another method which I have tried is:
1. Turn phone off by pressing and holding the red on hook button
2. Turn phone back on in reset mode by pressing digits 1, 4, 7 and red on hook simultaneously
3. Display should show 'Service',
4. Now type in reset codes -> 4, 6, 8, 5, 4, 6, 3. Phone should turn off
5. Turn phone back on by pressing and holding the red on hook button
6. Reassign your settings.
Your referring to a power reset of the base station?
Yep. I was. I was trying not to have it confused with power cycling the recharge base/cradle that the handset sits in. Anyways...
Wow � that's service!!!
I sent an email to Maxotel support ...
Very nice. I had a feeling if it was Maxotel who you'd purchased your unit from that you would achieve an outcome you'd be happy with.
Because every circumstance is different I will not post what the agreement was
Nice reasoning, I like that. Well said. And as you say, the end of the day, customer satisfaction is the desired outcome. Sounds like you got that in spades.
It was a breath of fresh air compared to the stonewalling some companies
+100 & a bit more. This...
Just out of curiosity, did you try resetting the offending handset?
Another tip I wasn't aware of. Now to see if I can recall it if/when needed in the future :D
Very nice. I had a feeling if it was Maxotel who you'd purchased your unit from that you would achieve an outcome you'd be happy with.
Yeah, makes me want to deal with them in the future that's for sure and I will be more than happy to direct others to them for VoIP solutions � it's the least I can do
Another tip I wasn't aware of. Now to see if I can recall it if/when needed in the future :D
I didn't know this one either � the collective knowledge of people out there never fails to amaze me
For the record, the handset didn't respond to those keystrokes, it's completely dead :-(
I do have another question for the knowledgeable ones out there, how do I deregister a handset?
In the web menu it only lists options to change existing handsets, there is no option to remove one
The replacement phone comes up as INT 5 because it's new (I have 4 handsets) but handset 3 is now dead and I want to replace it with the new one. Yes, I've renamed INT 5 to be what number 3 was so that number 3 is now INT 5 but I'd like to remove INT 5 now altogether
How can I do this � the system thinks I have 5 handsets now, yet I really only have 4 and I only want to have 4 listed
I've searched around and other handset models deregistration needed to be done from the handset, which in my case is impossible, since it's dead!
What happens if people loose handsets or have others fail?
You can only have a maximum of 6 registered I believe, this figure could easily be breached over time if you have failures / losses. Surely there must be a way?
EDIT:
ok, so I figured out what to do
You need to do it from a handset, any handset will do
You go to the handset, find deregistration and then it will show you the handsets that you can deregister. Once you enter the systen password, it will remove the handset! yah
Only slight disappointment was that it doesn't reorder the numbering, so for me INT 3 is now just gone, so my phones are listed still 1 � 5 but with 3 not there, meh, it's not an issue except I like to have things consistent
Only slight disappointment was that it doesn't reorder the numbering
You can change the numbering manually via any of your handsets:
- Click on the left of the "Big Button" on the handset (INT) � brings up list of handsets.
- Click on Options.
- Select Assign Handset No.
- Change the numbers to suit.
- Click Save. Voila!
You can change the numbering manually via any of your handsets:
You can also name them.
You can also name them.
Yes, true. I find it easier to do this via the web interface to the base station, though. (Settings > Telephony > Number Assignment)
Yes, true. I find it easier to do this via the web interface to the base station, though.
Yep. Much easier.
Hi All
Hoping an owner of this phone can tell me how it plugs in to a modem. Is it with an RJ-11 phone line or some other cable?
Hoping an owner of this phone can tell me how it plugs in to a modem. Is it with an RJ-11 phone line or some other cable?
The base unit connects to Ethernet for VoIP traffic and RJ11 for Plain Old Telephone Service (landline) � you don't need a POTS landline to make the VoIP work (although you will need ADSL or a 3G router with Ethernet connectivity)
The phone just plugs into the charger:-)
The base unit connects to Ethernet for VoIP traffic and RJ11 for Plain Old Telephone Service (landline) � you don't need a POTS landline to make the VoIP work (although you will need ADSL or a 3G router with Ethernet connectivity)
I have an ADSL router. Can I use one of the four the LAN Ethernet ports? Many thanks.
Yes.
I have an ADSL router. Can I use one of the four the LAN Ethernet ports? Many thanks.
Yes. For VoIP connections.
For POTS connection, you will need a standard phone cable (the base station has three ports on it � a power socket, a POTS connection, and an Ethernet connection).
I don't really want to read 50 pages but have a question if what I want to do is possible:
- Route all international calls via DIDLogic � I do this now using the VoIP in my router by prefixing with * for international
- Route all AU calls via Telecube except below (so probably the default outgoing line)
- Route 000/1800 via PSTN
For the tricky part:
- Not ring for incoming PSTN calls � I only want the line connected for the outgoing calls but do not want it to be able to ring as the only calls I get on it is charities etc � and I do not want to be woken up but I do want to be reachable on my Telecube VoIP extension (have someone that is able to call me 24x7 via the extension from overseas � don't even have a DID so nobody unwanted could call).
Route all international calls via DIDLogic � I do this now using the VoIP in my router by prefixing with * for international
Easy � just put in Dial Plan: 0011 use DIDLogic
Route all AU calls via Telecube except below (so probably the default outgoing line)
Easy � Either default the handset to use Telecube, or put, one by one the following
02 � Use Telecube
03 � Use Telecube
04 � Use Telecube
and so on
Route 000/1800 via PSTN
Easy � Just put in Dial Plan:
000 � Use PSTN
1800 � Use PSTN
Not ring for incoming PSTN calls
Easy � Just untick "Incoming Call" on the handset for the PSTN
Easy � Just untick "Incoming Call" on the handset for the PSTN
That is so simple � thought it would be complicated or not possible. Looks like I know what my next purchase will be.
I will give Telstra a call and see what they say.
Please let us know how you get on. I think I have a rough idea what they'll say.
Please let us know how you get on. I think I have a rough idea what they'll say.
I didn't call them but see my edited post, immediately above yours.
... it would appear that only Telstra mobiles can send SMS to Telstra fixed lines.
I suspected this would be the case. As you can't be sure you'll receive text messages, I reckon it's time to let this go, dclayw.
Telstra mobiles can send SMS to Telstra fixed lines.
Just confirmed that I can receive SMSs from a Telstra mobile to fixed line talking text.
Could not reply though.
Where can I download a manual for the C610AIP? I can't find it on the gigaset site � maybe it's my browsers (Chrome, IE11)?
Where can I download a manual for the C610AIP?
They are all listed here
http://www.gigaset.com/s
They are all listed here
OK, thank you for that.
Hi guys
I'm trying to get dial plans working on the C610IP for international calls to a particular destination.
Primary provider is PennyTel, and I would like all calls to go via PennyTel except calls to a certain international country (Country code: +263), which I would like to go to through a secondary provider NodePhone.
I have registered PennyTel and NodePhone connections and set PennyTel to be the primary.
1) In the dial plan field, would I just enter 0011263 and assign that to IP2 (NodePhone)?
2) Alternatively I've read I could type 0011263xxxxxxxxx#2 on the handset and it should go via NodePhone? Is that correct?
3) How would I force a call to go via PSTN network?
Thanks guys.
In the dial plan field, would I just enter 0011263 and assign that to IP2 (NodePhone)?
Correct.
Alternatively I've read I could type 0011263xxxxxxxxx#2 on the handset and it should go via NodePhone? Is that correct?
Correct.
How would I force a call to go via PSTN network?
Dial the number followed by #0.
Dial the number followed by #0.
Is this feature only available with the C610 IP? I have a C610 AIP and I cant get it to work. In fact, only the use of #9 at the end of a number forces the call to go via the Gigaset connection. #0, #1, #2 etc. do nothing on mine.
Is this feature only available with the C610 IP? I have a C610 AIP and I cant get it to work. In fact, only the use of #9 at the end of a number forces the call to go via the Gigaset connection. #0, #1, #2 etc. do nothing on mine.
#n forces the call out via that connection. #9 is Gigaset, #0 is PSTN, #1 � #8 are VoIP connections 1-8.
Do you have a PSTN line plugged in?
Do you have multiple VoIP accounts setup?
Do you have a PSTN line plugged in?
Do you have multiple VoIP accounts setup?
Yes to both.
I'm also using the latest firmware (but did try with previous version).
I have dialling plans which I've tried active, de-activated and deleted.
Still the same result � nothing works except #9 for Gigaset dialling.
In fact, only the use of #9 at the end of a number forces the call to go via the Gigaset connection. #0, #1, #2 etc. do nothing on mine.
Yes, this is the same for me on our C610 IP. It worked fine on the C470 IP that we used previously, though.
Do you have a PSTN line plugged in?
Up until we switched to NBN, yes.
Do you have multiple VoIP accounts setup?
Yes.
Work-around: I've configured one of the display keys on a couple of our handsets so that the outgoing line can be selected prior to making a call (if the default outgoing line needs to be over-ridden). Alternatively, it's possible to set the handset so that you're asked which outgoing line you want to use for each call.
outgoing line can be selected prior to making a call
I've done that too, but I think holding down the (green) dial button does this too.
Still the same result � nothing works except #9 for Gigaset dialling.
Yep same here. Couldn't get #0 or #2 working.
I've done that too, but I think holding down the (green) dial button does this too.
I didn't know about this one. Thanks for the tip, Toto.
Yep same here. Couldn't get #0 or #2 working.
Ah yes, just tried this on the A58H and the C610 � the only way to call using my second provider (#2 = MNF) is via the Dialling plan. Edited to add I do have a PSTN line for incoming calls, and #0 does work.
Edited to add for workarounds:
- Via web interface � Settings/Telephony/Number Assignment and check "select line for each outgoing call" � doesn't work with A58H
- Via Handset � press and hold the green call button, the available lines are shown, again only for C610, not A58H
For those that may not know... Firmware update (version 207) 10/2014 was released last month. Changelog below:
- It is now possible to switch on/off missed calls for each account inside Web-configurator
- Corrected vCard transfer via Web-configurator containing special characters
- Support of handsets with touch based user interface Gigaset SL910H, S820H, SL930H
- Support of Gigaset Repeater 2.0
- Minor bug fixes
http://www.gigaset.com/suppo
What does it take to create your own online directory for these phones?
What does it take to create your own online directory for these phones?
Check out the PDF on this page
How does the + key supposed to work.
Going through manuals for other regions the "+" is replaced by "oper" so maybe it's a pbx/carrier thing.
Hi All � I have seen a few references to ringtones, but nothing about 'custom ringtone'. Is there any way to import a custom ringtone to the 610H/C610IP combination?
My uncle is hard of hearing and for his mobile phone, I imported an edited mp3 of the 'old school' analog ring-ring with the waveform almost distorting � but it does the job....Id like to do this with the Siemens IP handset....
Is there any way to import a custom ringtone to the 610H/C610IP combination?
Unfortunately, it's not possible with this Gigaset model.
Replaced with Imedion 950mah AAA batteries and they just finished the first cycle this morning and are now back on the cradle. Took nearly a week for them to run down, that's promising.
That was about 8 months ago...
And one of the handsets has started showing the red battery outline and the low battery audio. The other handset still seems ok, it gets more use though...
The Imedion 950mah batteries from the dying handset are now in the powerex charger on refresh/analyse. Hopefully they will come back up.
Probably need to buy some spares so we can have a fresh set ready.
The other handset still seems ok, it gets more use though...
Are the cradle and handset terminals clean?
Are the cradle and handset terminals clean?
Yes. The handset reacts immediately when placed on the cradle and the terminals are clean. I've put some spare eneloops in the handset while the imedions get conditioned and they have charged from 25% to full in a few hours.
Hi guys I thought I'd ask here I have a c610a ip and when I recieve a call on the gigaset our iPhones ring is there a way to disable this ?
Thanks
Hi guys I thought I'd ask here I have a c610a ip and when I recieve a call on the gigaset our iPhones ring is there a way to disable this ?
The two are not related. You must have a VoIP app on your iPhone that is also receiving the call.
No apps on either of the phones and this only started after the VoIP was setup .
Weird
No apps on either of the phones and this only started after the VoIP was setup .
What VoIP provider are you using?
Westnet
No apps on either of the phones and this only started after the VoIP was setup .
Weird
Speculation....
If they ring together then your mobile number and your voip number are in a ring group.
If one rings, stops and the other starts ring then they are in a hunt group.
Check your voip providers user portal.
If one rings, stops and the other starts ring then they are in a hunt group.
....or the Gigaset has a call forward no ans set to the mobile.
and when I recieve a call on the gigaset our iPhones ring is there a way to disable this ?
Do both phones ring at the same time or does the Gigaset ring first, stops and then the mobile rings?
It's wierd if I ring the home phone from my mobile it will ring the gigaset and other mobile but doesn't do it all the time.
Only things I have imputed are the VoIP settings nothing else modified from factory settings
One of our suppliers has advised that Gigaset have called an End of Life for the C610IP series. Apparently the replacement is the C530IP series, due in June.
One of our suppliers has advised that Gigaset have called an End of Life for the C610IP series. Apparently the replacement is the C530IP series, due in June.
Apparently the replacement is the C530IP series, due in June
It looks like a step back towards the C470IP. Surely not?
It was replaced by the C620 IP in Europe some time ago.
It was replaced by the C620 IP in Europe some time ago.
The UK websites make no reference to "replacement"" If there is some authoritative advice that it does indeed replace the 610; what any new features are and whether they are worth the wait; and whether it will be in the Australian market "shortly", I'd wait on release., doing without a house phone in the meantime.
Well, the C610 seemed to disappear in Europe after the C620 appeared in 2013.
I found some German third party sites that refer to the C620 as the successor of the C610. Here is one:
http://www.tarif4you.de/news/n17586.html
I bought a C620H (handset only) from the UK to go with my C610A IP base and handset, and it plays nicely with them.
However, from recent posts it does seem possible that Gigaset will not release the C620 in Australia.
I use a Samsung smartphone connected to WiFi & CSipSimple to make calls overseas daily. Can anyone convince me why I would be better off with a C610 IP?
The general consensus seems to be that the quality is amazing compared to using a VoIP app - however I'm yet to really have any major long term issues with the quality I get right now.
Is it really worth forking out for a nice dedicated VoIP handset, since we make several calls daily? I won't be using it for incoming calls.
however I'm yet to really have any major long term issues with the quality I get right now.
If you are happy with the quality, why change?
Is it really worth forking out for a nice dedicated VoIP handset, since we make several calls daily?
I think you have already answered that question for yourself.
I use a Samsung smartphone connected to WiFi & CSipSimple to make calls overseas daily. Can anyone convince me why I would be better off with a C610 IP?
One issue I find using a smartphone for VoIP over WiFi is battery life � compared to the Gigaset which lasts a long time.
One issue I find using a smartphone for VoIP over WiFi is battery life � compared to the Gigaset which lasts a long time.
Not an issue, all my calls are made at home within 10 metres of a charger.
Thanks anyway, i'll keep using a SIP app and won't bother with a physical handset.
I have a pair of 610ip's and am having a problem with calls being disconnected and hope someone might have an idea as to why. The problem has happened on several occasions now. Tonight's scenario went like
Handset 1 is on a outgoing voip call (via MNF)
Another call comes in via the fixed line. The incoming call is answered on the handset 2.
At this point the outgoing call on handset 1 is disconnected from its call.
Although the call on handset 1 was cut the handset needs to be hung up.
Going through the options, the only thing I could see that may cause any conflict is that both handset are allowed to ring on the fixed line. Although I believe that this is highly unlikely to be the problem.
At this point the outgoing call on handset 1 is disconnected from its call.
Check if your internet is dropping out. I have had that happen before that using the fixed line caused ADSL to drop (even with different filters). My only fix was making it so the phone line from the Gigaset base went to the TEL connection on my MFC and the line from the filter went to the MFC LINE port.
You might be on to something Pikey18.
Just checked the routers connection log and while the Lan and Wlan have been up for 22 days, the ADSL Wan has only been 2 � hours which corresponds approx to the last incident.
I don't understand what your solution is referring to in relation to the MFC, would you clarify this for me.
Regards
I don't understand what your solution is referring to in relation to the MFC, would you clarify this for me.
I have a Brother MFC-9330CDW Multifunction which includes fax. Basically the phone line runs into the line side of this device and I connect the Gigaset base to the Tel port.
I have a Brother MFC-9330CDW Multifunction which includes fax.
Thanks, now I understand. I don't have a mfc printer in the setup. My filter is direct to the C610ip and router.
I will try a new filter and see if it makes any difference.
What brand of filter? The C10 or ACS filters tend to be the best. The older panasonic phones needed two filters to fully stop them causing issues so if the new filter doesnt help, use two.
What brand of filter? The C10 or ACS
Funny thing is I was using a C10 and the Gigaset still caused the DSL to drop. Maybe double filtering would have helped (but the MFC works as well with the benefit of being able to fax if needed).
The current filter is a Telstra branded C10. I have just swapped it for the no name one that came with the last netgear router. I'll try to replicate the problem and see how I go.
Regards
The current filter is a Telstra branded C10. I have just swapped it for the no name one that came with the last netgear router. I'll try to replicate the problem and see how I go.
How is it going?
I had to change my setup and run the Gigaset straight into the filter � and the moment I use the phone DSL was dropping and resyncing at about 4Mbit (normal is near 15Mbit).
Just tried my old Telstra branded cordless phone using the exact same cabling/filter and didn't drop the DSL at all (was on the phone near an hour).
Have now double filtered the Gigaset (first from the socket is a brand new C10 filter and the second is a TP-Link ADSL2+ filter that I got with my new modem a few months ago). Will be interesting to see if that makes any difference.
Check if your internet is dropping out. I have had that happen before that using the fixed line caused ADSL to drop
Oddly enough that was fixed at my end when a tech noted a voltage on the line where it should not have been.
I also upgraded the modem (the previous one was was quite old).
No more ADSL random drop outs when a call comes in on the fixed line
How long do you all find your batteries last?
I am getting about 9 months from batteries start to die. Is this normal?
Currently on Energiser Recharge Extreme NiMH 800 mAh.
Two handsets still have batteries from Sep 2014 and they are basically stuffed (use for a few minutes and handset goes dead). One handset I had to replace the batteries in June 2015 and it is the only one working properly at the moment.
C610A IP and 3 x C610H. I've followed the instructions in the manual for new batteries: for new batteries, charge fully then discharge fully. I leave them on the charger all the time after that. When replacing on the charger, I make sure the phone makes the tones indicating it is charging.
How long do you all find your batteries last?
Not long ... if my A510 IP is any guide.
6-9 months and they're hot and lost capacity.
How long do you all find your batteries last?
I've got the SL400 handsets with mine, which have their own proprietary lithium battery pack. They've both just started to bulge now after 3 years of operation so it's time to replace them before they become a hazard.
If you're replacing your Energisers after 9 months, maybe it's worth trying a different brand, such as Eneloop or Powerex, which I'm a fan of myself. You ought to get more life out of those. Through good battery practices, I would expect the pack to last a couple of years, at least.
Not long ...
The batteries in my A58H and C47H handsets last for years. About 12 months ago, I replaced the batteries in all four handsets with some expensive Eneloops. I expect those to last for a few years as well.
I leave them on the charger all the time after that. When replacing on the charger, I make sure the phone makes the tones indicating it is charging.
Its better to not have them on the charger all the time in my experience. This is my experience with phones and laptops.
Its better to not have them on the charger all the time in my experience. This is my experience with phones and laptops.
Apples and oranges.
For lithium chemistry batteries (i.e. mobile phones and laptops), that rule doesn't apply. If anything, it's better to leave them on charge so as to avoid running the batteries flat. Running them flat will drastically shorten their lifespan.
As for the poster's issue with NiMH batteries, you're right though the memory effect isn't as bad as earlier revisions of that chemistry. I'd say it's good to exercise those batteries once a month but even then, a good battery will last for more than just nine months. We've had an Alcatel cordless phone at my old work which lasted for two years on average before it needed replacing that that NiMH battery lived on the charger without any exercising.
The blurb which comes with the new handset says to 'condition' the batteries before use.
Charge them then discharge till flat.
That's what I do and my batteries last for at least three years.
That's what I do and my batteries last for at least three years.
It's what I do too, and my batteries last about 8-9 months. Have you got C610h handsets like I have?
I suspect that when left on the charger the batteries are being overcharged
Yes, I suspect it is a dumb charger.
I wondering if some smarts can be retrofitted to the charger, or maybe just leaving it off the cradle half the time (or a timer to do the same thing).
I am using Eneloops now, had a look for Eneloop technical info � all I could find that was useful was [1] which is not actually about Eneloop specifically.
Don't replace the batteries, they can be rejuvenated.
Thanks I'll try that in 3 months when one set will be due to die. I have put Eneloops in the other 2 handsets.
[1] http://industrial.panasonic.c
Have you got C610h handsets like I have?
No, we have one A58H and three C47H. I also use Eneloops now for the first time. I can't remember the brand of batteries we used previously but they lasted a long time. The Eneloops have been in for about 18 months and are going strong. We are not in the habit of leaving our handsets off the chargers for long periods of time. Sometimes, one or two may be lying around the house during the day but they are always placed back on the chargers before we go to bed.
On a side note with the Gigasets. Do any of their IP models share the phonebook between handsets automatically?
With the A510IP you have to manually transfer the phone book (directory) from handset to handset which is a bloody pain. Should be stored in the base for all handsets to access.
On a side note with the Gigasets. Do any of their IP models share the phonebook between handsets automatically?
I don't think any of the models that have ever been released in Australia do.
They did (do?) have a "Pro" line of handsets in Europe that could be setup to connect to a CardDAV server.
I don't think any of the models that have ever been released in Australia do.
Well that's a bit of a bugger.
Do any of their IP models share the phonebook between handsets automatically?
Just setup a online directory and all handsets will get it.
https://teamwork.gigaset.com
Just setup a online directory and all handsets will get it.
That document is for the Gigaset Pro line of phones � AFAIK there is no way to enter server details into a normal Gigaset base station (I could be wrong though).
I could be wrong though
http://<device_ip_address>/se
http://<device_ip_address>/
Oh.
Nice.
Why the hell did they hide that away?
What else have they hidden away?
Why the hell did they hide that away?
They didn't really. It's on on of the last few pages of the document I linked to previously.
Just setup a online directory and all handsets will get it.
Do you have an example file you can share (dummy names/numbers)?
It is possible to de-register a handset ... via the handset.
Thanks a lot! Will try this then...
EDIT: Yes, that worked! Thanks again, LMH
Do you have an example file you can share (dummy names/numbers)?
No I don't.
However while researching this issue (originally for a XML solution) I came across a page that has given me food for thought..... http://enor.me/b/index.php?po
In this example, DNS records are manipulated to redirect the internal phonebook to a different server. As the Gigaset setup page for an additional phone book in now available this DNS hack wont be required.
I won't have time to mess with this till well into the new year. The end game for me is to host the CGI script on a server (local or cloud) and give it access to the XML phonebook from Telecube to pull it's data from.
I am using Eneloops now, had a look for Eneloop technical info � all I could find that was useful was [1] which is not actually about Eneloop specifically.
[1] http://industrial.panasonic.c
Thanks for that link. I'm also using Eneloops.
Further checking with Eneloops in an Apple Charger � gets to 1.41V then the charger stops charging. � And in a Powertech Plus smart charger they get to 1.43V when fully charged.
In the Gigabit charger it's 1.51V, which I think confirms that the dumb charger is overcharging the battery.
Further to my rejuvenation method
Remove the batteries and put them in a 2X AAA battery holder wired to a load ( 5 to 12 Ohm resistor or small 2.5V torch globe.) and let them completely discharge � 2 to 4 hours. Then put them back in the phone, recharge and you will be good for another 6 to 9 months. Repeat.
The 5 Ohm resistor needs to be rated at 2W, but on reflection the small 2.5V torch globe will be the way to go. Visual charge indication, no need to fiddle with a multi-meter.
And now that the problem has been confirmed I will go proactive and set up a reminder to do the rejuvenate every 3 months.
rejuvenation method
My remaining single set of Energizers have gone flat after an hour or two off the charger, then a 1 minute phone call before they cut out. They are 6 months old (I write the date on a post-it stuck inside the battery compartment lid).
I'll try your rejuvenation method.
In the Gigabit charger it's 1.51V, which I think confirms that the dumb charger is overcharging the battery.
I just measured the charger output at 8.1V with no load � it is labelled as 4.0V at 150mA. It might be more like 4.0V at 150mA but if it is 8.1V no-load then I would imagine the voltage would rise to near that as the battery gets to full charge, unless there are some charging smarts in the handset (which I doubt).
The GP 550 Mah cells in my A58H have been running for 24822 hours (2.8 years) and still going strong.
Almost ditto. I've 3 x A58Hs
The "new one" is a Gigaset "Gigaset" A58H just having it's 3rd birthday on the original "SUPPO 700" 700 mAh NiMH
The middle-aged one is also a Gigaset "Gigaset" A58H from An A580IP and is 4+ years old on its original "GP 700" NiMH.
The oldest is a Siemens "Gigaset" A58H as part of an A580IP and is about 6 (7+?) years old. Can't remember exactly, but it was when the A580IP was a newish device.sold under Siemens' own brand. Also original "GP 700s".
I would *probably* have followed any initial charging instructions to fully charge then fully discharge.
The A58Hs are nearly always on charge. Sometimes they get forgotten off charge or aren't fully registered in the cradle (it's a finicky thing setting them into the cradle properly) and they end up flat.
So, no special treatment and the cheap originals are still going. They don't have their full capacity I know, as I had to swap the "new" batteries and the "old" batteries between handsets because the "new" handset wasn't then being used and was "spare". As the "old" handset was my wife's handset that made it a matter of a priority immediate fix to fix the expected usage. "My" phone now has the "old" batteries. They all still work okay for our usage patterns but won't last for days off charge anymore.
Is there something different between A50H/A580IP handsets and C610IP's handsets?
it's probably that bloody colour screen gobbling up the battery. Battery powered coloured screens, whatever they are used in, have been the bane of my life. You can't see them in daylight (like good old monochrome) so they're useless there. They thrash the battery even if you can't see what's on the screen while you hunt around looking for somewhere dark enough to see the screen.
TL;DR I tried battery conditioning (Energizer 800mAh) as ajr53 suggested (thanks for the suggestion), followed by charging in an external fast charger with shut-off. Then charged on cradle for 10 hours, now off cradle for 18 hours and made a few short calls and still indicates full charge.
Is there something different between A58H/A580IP handsets and C610IP's handsets?it's probably that bloody colour screen gobbling up the battery.
One of my handsets sits on the cradle all the time (except for less than 5 minutes per month use), so I can't see how the colour screen affects that, but it suffers the same problem as the other handsets.
My guess is that the A58H has a better charging circuit and/or the C610h is intolerant of slightly degraded batteries. Possibly because it has a mono display, the A58H has a lower charging current, closer to a trickle charge than a slow charge � which might be better for the battery � being a smaller capacity battery might help too.
The supposedly dead Energizer 800 mAh batteries out of my handset (been on cradle for days but died off cradle) measured 1.35 Volts each in the phone (after it had decided it was flat and shut down). This seems quite a reasonable voltage for a nominally 1.2V battery!
I put them in my semi-smart fast charger (no discharge cycle) and then back in the phone and it said they were very low but it didn't turn off immediately (i.e. some improvement).
I tried battery conditioning on the 6-month old Energizers as ajr53 suggested (thanks for the suggestion ajr53). Flattened them (mostly) then put them in my semi-smart fast charger. The phone then read half charge.
Now I am following following the new battery procedure that is in the manual. After the specified ten hours on the cradle, the handset said fully charged. Now running flat in the handset before putting it back on the cradle. It has now been 18 hours off the cradle, doesn't die as soon as you make a call, and it still says full so that is a great outcome so far.
I am tossing up making a DIY discharger e.g. $2 DIY discharger, or getting a fancy Powerex MH-C9000 charger-analyzer.
I searched for discharger circuits with voltage cut-off that would work on one cell preferably � the above is all I found (and it is the simplest). I don't have all the parts in my junkbox, so although they should only cost a few dollars to buy, I am looking at alternatives with parts I do have. Most discharger circuits are more complex and designed for more than 1 or 2 cells battery packs.
Discharge details: The cells started at about 1.35V each. I discharged the first in a single cell mini Maglite torch � after 2+ hours and it had only dropped to 1.23V � after reading [1] I thought that it might be too hard to stop this from dropping below 0.9V without checking it frequently, So I left the pair in a low power LED bike light overnight � maybe because one had a head start, this didn't drain them equally and one of them may be stuffed from going to too low voltage (0.6something volts from memory) � see[1]. Note [2] suggests it is ok to go below 0.9V if you are discharging individual batteries (i.e. not in series) so it may be ok to just leave them in a single cell torch until flat.
[1]
http://www.rechargebatterygu
[2] http://www.camlight.com/techi
I am tossing up making a DIY discharger e.g. $2 DIY discharger, or getting a fancy Powerex MH-C9000 charger-analyzer.
Go the fancy Powerex. If anything, you'll end up using it for all your rechargeable battery needs. I have the same one for the last two years or so and it has been serving me very well, though for me the inspiration was the flash for my camera and my Sony PCM-M10 portable audio recorder.
I tried battery conditioning (Energizer 800mAh) as ajr53 suggested (thanks for the suggestion), followed by charging in an external fast charger with shut-off. Then charged on cradle for 10 hours, now off cradle for 18 hours and made a few short calls and still indicates full charge.
This handset is now making the go-flat noises; it has been off cradle for nearly 4 days. So the batteries are doing well � good tip about battery reconditioning, thanks ajr53.
my Gigaset reregisters by itself as soon as the internet is up again
I would say no, it's not normal.
Mine has always done it. Latest outage was last night and it came back some time later and the Gigaset still said "registration at provider failed" this morning.
I've had my C610A IP running ... now on cable, and I find that it re-registers quite quickly.
Presumably Telstra cable?
I found this thread /archive/2212168 which suggests disabling the router's "WAN->NAT Passthrough->SIP Passthrough" (different brand of router though).
I'm on Telstra Cable superfast speed boost, and the Telstra-supplied CG3100D-2 modem/router is in normal router mode (not bridged).
Gigaset is plugged directly into the CG3100D-2.
On my router's ALG (Application-Level Gateway) page, everything is ticked except SIP [1]. I am pretty sure that is the default setting.
Is that what you have?
[1] The router's Help for ALG is not very helpful and only says Application-Level Gateway(also known as ALG or application layer gateway) consists of a security component that augments a firewall or NAT employed in a computer network. It allows customized NAT traversal filters to be plugged into the gateway to support address and port translation for certain application layer "control/data" protocols such as FTP, BitTorrent, SIP, RTSP, file transfer in IM applications etc.
In order for these protocols to work through NAT or a firewall, either the application has to know about an address/port number combination that allows incoming packets, or the NAT has to monitor the control traffic and open up port mappings (firewall pinhole) dynamically as required. Legitimate application data can thus be passed through the security checks of the firewall or NAT that would have otherwise restricted the traffic for not meeting its limited filter criteria.
Presumably Telstra cable?
Yup. 100GB naked, no speed boost.
Gigaset is plugged directly into the CG3100D-2.
My Gigaset is connected to my ASUS RT-AC68U router which is bridged behind the C6300BD cable modem.
Is your Gigaset on a static or dynamic IP address?
Is your Gigaset on a static or dynamic IP address?
It's set to dynamic but it never changes. It's been *.24 for ages.
(I always login to the web interface by typing the IP address as the Gigaset login via the web didn't work and didn't seem to be of enough value to me to figure out why).
It's been *.24 for ages
When a device loses its IP addr and broadcasts a DHCP request it is most likely to include an Option that it be given the same ip it had previously. This was what my gigset requested when rebooting after losing its registration. It was previously 192.168.1.120
Option: (t=50,l=4) Requested IP Address = 192.168.1.120
In every case I have seen the network DHCP server will comply unless in the meanwhile it has issued this to a new network device
gigaset C160IP , how do I get the config page to show in English?
At present, I type the IP address into the firefox browser, and it comes up with the login page.
Once I have logged in, and choose "settings " page, which is in English language, I then click onto info services and see this
" please visit the configuration page via www.gigaset.net/myaccount"
when I click onto the www.gigaset.net/myaccount, if I hover over it first , it shows a uk link, but if i just click onto it, then it takes me to a config page in German.
I am trying to get that page in English.
Anyone had any luck ?
ps. Gigaset.net web page also does not work, I cannot change language to international, or find australian or UK pages, to work with.
ps 2. For RTP port range, its default is 5004- 5020. (Settings/ Telephony/Advanced Voip/ bottom of page)
Is that correct ? it works, but I used to see a different and larger range of rtp ports in a previously used Spa 3102 ata
when I click onto the www.gigaset.net/myaccount, if I hover over it first , it shows a uk link, but if i just click onto it, then it takes me to a config page in German.
I am trying to get that page in English.
In my experience, it works if you type in what it displays (i.e. www.gigaset.net/myaccount) but not if you click on the link.
Edit: except it is broken at the moment. However that is pretty common with Gigaset info services and it will get fixed sometime.
Edit: except it is broken at the moment. However that is pretty common with Gigaset info services and it will get fixed sometime.
oh, ok... thanks. .There are quite a few problems with the gigaset website when i try out different links.
I did try manually typing the URL as well. Still had problems..
When you click on the link in the gui, which is English, it should follow that the link page, which nicely picks up your user name etc for the next page, should present the next page in the language of the previous page.
Thanks for your input :)
ps 2. For RTP port range, its default is 5004- 5020. (Settings/ Telephony/Advanced Voip/ bottom of page) Is that correct ?
Going back a few years now, a VOIP expert and (now former) Internode employeeposted recommended settings on Whirlpool. On the basis of his advice, this is what we have configured in our base station:
Settings > Telephony > Advanced VOIP settings > Listen ports for VoIP connections
Use random ports: Yes
SIP port: 49060 � 49080
RTP port: 49004 � 49008
Works well for us here.
I did try manually typing the URL as well. Still had problems
Yes, I gave up using the information services. I've read of some people "rolling their own" info services. I thought this was cool but haven't had time to delve into it myself.
Use random ports: Yes
SIP port: 49060 � 49080
RTP port: 49004 � 49008
Works well for us here.
Thanks.. I think mine has Random ports set to "no" so will change that to "yes" , and see how things go.
ps.. Spa3102 had 5060-5064, rtp settings were 16382-16484 from memory, a range of 102 ports.
I think mine has Random ports set to "no" so will change that to "yes" , and see how things go.
Probably no difference as the src ports you choose are pretty much irrelevant after the sip protocol was modified to provide for Symmetric response routing. This introduced a new parameter called "rport " for the via hdr field requesting the server to send responses back to the source ip and port from which the request originated. This was done to cover the situation where the client was behind a 'nat'.
SIP port: 49060 � 49080
High value sip ports can assist when your router has a sip_alg that cannot be disabled. Also it is unlikely that scanners would cover such a high value so security could be improved. No need to specify a range though .. just pick any value you like less than 65000 or thereabouts.
Probably no difference as the src ports you choose are pretty much irrelevant after the sip protocol was modified to provide for Symmetric response routing.
Informative , Thanks for your input Robnll. Is it the same for the RTP ports? or different from the SIP?
Informative
More info in this rfc. It gets a bit heavy going but the Abstract at the beginning sums it up.
https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3581.txt
Is it the same for the RTP ports?
The end result is the same but done differently. When the caller sends an Invite it will contain a SDP which is used in an offer/answer fashion with the proxy server to reach agreement on the attributes of the media (rtp) session.
This will include the private port to be used and a media attribute relating to the direction of the media stream. An extract from the relevant rfc 3264 is :
If the offerer wishes to both send and
receive media with its peer, it MAY include an "a=sendrecv"
attribute, or it MAY omit it, since sendrecv is the default.
For recvonly and sendrecv streams, the port number and address in the
offer indicate where the offerer would like to receive the media
stream.
As far as I can tell the vsp checks to see if the port in via hdr and the 'recieved from' port (rport) are the same ( that is no nat) and uses this but if it determines you are behind a nat it waits until it receives your rtp then sends rtp to the originating port. That is why sip_alg or stun can confuse the vsp into thinking you are not behind a nat and rtp gets sent to a private port.
Yep,
That clears it up a bit..
I know that stun and and nat go into the mix, and different vsp's may treat things slightly different as well...
Appreciate the detail Robnll.
Do you have an example file you can share (dummy names/numbers)?
It's a cold weekend...
The phone links are...
http://<phone_ip>/settings_se
The directory server URL is...
http://gigaset.woodytheduck.net/cgi-bin/pb.py
It just has some demo contacts. It is a very 'static' setup that does not use the full features of the phone.
Edit: This is for a private directory, not yellow or white.
It looks like just a xml file but it delivered to the phone via CGI.
The script is here...
http://gigaset.woodytheduck.net/pb.py
To access the directory it's a long press on the directory button.... bottom of the centre 'ring'.
It's a cold weekend...
The phone links are..
Thanks for the effort.
I'll need to spend some time working out how to apply this.
You've provided a lot of good info, esp address book syntax.
I'm just unsure of the final implementation.
I'm just unsure of the final implementation
The example above is the most basic implementation. I haven't looked at scrolling when there are 7 or more entries.
You will need a webserver that can do CGI. I started with a Raspberry Pi running Lighttpd and then placed it on a VPS running Apache.
I used Python as the script language but that was just personal preference.
What are people doing to get progress sounds sounding more Telstra'ish?
What are people doing to get progress sounds sounding more Telstra'ish?
I hope you get a useful answer soon. FWIW, I'm currently using United Kingdom. Not great, but as close as I could find.
I hope you get a useful answer soon.
I mentioned it in passing in another thread and South Africa was suggested as being close.
I'm using it now.
South Africa was suggested
Thanks, VK2XXY. Have set it in 2 of my C610 IPs for a trial/test.
I mentioned it in passing in another thread and South Africa was suggested as being close.
Here's a comparison of the main progress tones from Australia and South Africa...
Busy_au.wav � 425 Hz � 0.375 on 0.375 off
Busy_za.wav � 400 Hz � 0.5 on 0.5 off
Dial_Tone_au.wav � 400+425+450 Hz � continuous
Dial_Tone_za.wav � 400x33 Hz � continuous
Number_Unobtainable_au.wav � 425 Hz � 2.5 on 0.5 off
Number_Unobtainable_za.wav � 400 Hz � 2.5 on 0.5 off
Ringback_au.wav � 400+425+450 Hz � 0.4 on 0.2 off 0.4 on 2.0 off
Ringback_za.wav � 400x33 Hz � 0.4 on 0.2 off 0.4 on 2.0 off
As you can see/hear, the Australian and South African progress tones are so similar as to be almost interchangeable.
As you can see/hear, the Australian and South African progress tones are so similar as to be almost interchangeable.
Pity the facility the choose progress tones is not available on my old A580IP. That was one thing I liked about the old PAP2-NA.
That was one thing I liked about the old PAP2-NA.
And my old SPA-3102 as well. You could change any tone to anything you liked.
Go the fancy Powerex.
So 9 months is up and my Chinese Eneloops are starting to cut out in phone calls (have lasted better than Energizers which are useless by this stage).
Question: if you get a fancy reconditioning charger, do you still need to follow it with the whole Gigaset full charge on cradle, full discharge to dead flat in handset, then back on cradle until charged? Or can you just recondition/charge them in the fancy charger say every 3 months, then put them in the Gigaset and not do the rest?
Getting bloody tired of this. Just wasted 20 mins on hold because my handset went flat and I got cut off.
The whole full charge, full discharge, then recharge thing is bad enough without having to do extra out-of-phone reconditioning discharge/charge.
Edit: set up a voip app on my mobile to make calls, quicker than buggerising around with batteries. (It's a 1300 number not a freecall unfortunately, or I would have just dialled on my mobile). Might be the beginning of the end of the Gigaset.
So 9 months is up and my Chinese Eneloops are starting to cut out in phone calls (have lasted better than Energizers which are useless by this stage).
It's annoying me too (on a C530IP). The batteries just don't last like they did on my old C470IP (where I am sure they lasted 5+ years).
At the moment I'm just using $7 for 4 Coles branded AAA batteries...
I've replaced the original batteries in all 5 of our C610H handsets with Panasonic Eneloop batteries at various times in the last 18 months. The batteries in 3 of the handsets wouldn't hold charge after a few months.
Earlier this year, I took one of the handsets into the battery supplier. The salesman recommended GP Batteries. These have a slightly taller positive terminal than the Eneloops � and hence a slightly longer overall length � so he reckoned they would make better contact with the handset terminals.
Cost was $9.90 for a twin pack (the supplier didn't have the quad pack in stock).
It's only been 1 to 4 months with the GP Batteries in the handsets so far.
Question: if you get a fancy reconditioning charger, do you still need to follow it with the whole Gigaset full charge on cradle
No. That's what your fancy charger is for. It's smarter than the one that's with the Gigaset.
I have a smart charger, but it doesn't have conditioning or discharging options. Yesterday I charged the batteries externally in the smart charger and put them back in without the Gigaset in-handset discharge then recharge fully cycle.
One of the sets of batteries was showing half charged all the time on the handset � after having been externally charged, it showed fully charged on the handset, so that initially looked like an improvement.
Just tried a phone call and it went dead flat in a very short time, so that is actually worse than it was.
Note the fact that the Gigaset says they are flat doesn't mean they are flat. The battery removed from the "flat" handset says 1.54V and when put back in the handset, the handsets says the batteries are fully charged.
Possibly the Gigaset charging circuit has some kind of memory that tells it how many mAh it has put into the batteries and it assumes that is the capacity and that therefore they are flat when it has used that much capacity from them.
So it seems the answer is not externally charging and then ignoring the Gigaset in-handset discharge then recharge fully cycle.
Perhaps the answer is removing them, discharging them fully, then putting them into the handset and fully charging them, then done. And for new batteries, discharging them first, then putting them into the handset and fully charging them, then done.
removing them, discharging them fully, then putting them into the handset and fully charging them, then done
I've tried this, discharging the cells in a single cell non-LED torch � single cell ensures they get properly discharged without damage.
Then put back in and left on cradle for 24 hours without use. This takes about 1.5 days total and is easy so I hope it works as well as the official method. (I should have tried discharging externally then charging externally as that is even faster).
Also put in a new set of Chineneloop batteries for which I used the official method of charged on the cradle, discharged in the handset, then recharged on cradle for 24 hours. This takes quite a few days and is a pain. You also have to put the handset somewhere a helpful person won't interfere and put it back on the cradle ("it was bipping") despite the Post-It note stuck to it.
You also have to put the handset somewhere a helpful person won't interfere and put it back on the cradle ("it was bipping") despite the Post-It note stuck to it.
I find it easier to hide the cradle. :)
Are there any devices out there in the same level as Gigaset? Need an IP device and fall over to the landline. Don't need a router/modem, an IP device would suffice.
Did you ever find a decent alternative to Gigaset? I want to replace my C610H's with something that has a charger capable of stopping charging once batteries are charged.
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