We're starting the FTTN audit in Cannington tomorrow, 6CAN-02.
Sorry guys seems no FTTP for you
Where is 6can-02? The interwebs has failed me
Where is 6can-02? The interwebs has failed me
6CAN-02 doesnt exist, most of 6CAN got removed.
6CAN-01 is Waterford.
We're starting the FTTN audit in Cannington tomorrow, 6CAN-02.
Does that mean you are finished with the roping and rodding of the remaining FSAMS in 6APP, 6SPT, 6VIC, 6MDR (which are the first and last Perth metro FSAMs to get FTTP)?
It will be interesting to know what the "audit" work entails and how you decide on the quality of the copper and distance to the FTTN nodes and indeed what issues you identify which require remediation.
And please do report when you start work on any HFC audits in the appropriate thread.
Sorry 6CAN03
Does that mean you are finished with the roping and rodding of the remaining FSAMS in 6APP, 6SPT, 6VIC, 6MDR (which are the first and last Perth metro FSAMs to get FTTP)?
Yes correct
It will be interesting to know what the "audit" work entails and how you decide on the quality of the copper and distance to the FTTN nodes and indeed what issues you identify which require remediation.
It's just auditing the ducts based on the design given to us by NBN for FTTN, just rod and roping really, they call it auditing.
Sorry guys seems no FTTP for you
Will fibre on demand be available alongside the FTTN service, ie, still the full 864 core fibre count from each FTTN cabinent back to the exchange ?
Do you know which 6CAN-xx that Ferndale fits into by chance?
Does that mean you are finished with the roping and rodding of the remaining FSAMS in 6APP, 6SPT, 6VIC, 6MDR (which are the first and last Perth metro FSAMs to get FTTP)?
6MSP is FTTP, too.
Including 6MDR11 ?
6MDR11 was never released to us as far as I can tell, we only went up to 6MDR10
Will fibre on demand be available alongside the FTTN service, ie, still the full 864 core fibre count from each FTTN cabinent back to the exchange ?
as far as I have seen from all the presentations & training explaining FTTN � no
Do you know which 6CAN-xx that Ferndale fits into by chance?
I was auditing down and around Langford avenue today in various FDA's, close to you?
In the vicinity of The large 4 lid pit and pillar on corner of Latham and Wilcock st ferndale interests me greatly.
I think its DA142
Really interested.....
6MDR11 was never released to us as far as I can tell, we only went up to 6MDR10
Thanks any idea the borders of 6MDR10 (N,E,S,W)?
This is getting really off-topic but I will assume all FSAMs previously under construction as indicated in mynbn in 6APP, 6VIC, 6SPT, 6MDR, etc. would be gong to FTTP for consistency of design and common infrastructure (like exchange DAs). I don't see 6MDR11 on mynbn and only 10 FSAMs were planned for 6MDR (see mynbn).
Now back on-topic:
I wonder if mynbn is able to access the maps for these new 6CAN FSAMs as they did for the previous FTTP? I assume NBN already know the boundaries if the rodding and roping is taknig place. Until the area goes to Build Prep you will never know otherwise.
I was auditing down and around Langford avenue today in various FDA's, close to you?
Nah that's in Langford proper. I'm on other side of Nicholson rd. Bugger. Well guess I will continue to not hold my breath for anything to happen! :)
Was just interested to find out how big the 6CAN03 area is and if Ferndale was included in it or not.
I don't see 6MDR11 on mynbn and only 10 FSAMs were planned for 6MDR (see mynbn).
Sorry for being off topic(I'll whim any further questions) but the original data on the NBNs own site at the beginning and at present show MDR to have 11 FSAMs.
as far as I have seen from all the presentations & training explaining FTTN � no
What's the fibre count from each FTTN node back to the exchange ?
Nah that's in Langford proper. I'm on other side of Nicholson rd. Bugger. Well guess I will continue to not hold my breath for anything to happen! :)
Yeah I see where you are, you are not in 6CAN01 that I am in
Does anyone know if the dial before you dig PVC pipes are sticking out of the ground on the streets that are getting the FTTN?
(like blue for water, yellow for gas, green for sewage etc)
idk if its anything but on Station St near Sevenoaks end this morning there was a vaccum truck thing in one of the big pits and a bloke with a bunch of rope in the next pit along. Either they were clearing all that storm water out or something is happening there. there were Telstra barriers around.
another vac truck spotted at big telstra pit spencer rd/ nicholson rd lights not long ago.
my line goes thru there, better not bugger up my dsl! lol
another vac truck spotted at big telstra pit spencer rd/ nicholson rd lights not long ago.
Thanks for keeping us update. I live on Station Street, look forward having FTTN.
These addresses are 6CAN04 & 05, the trucks are remediating what was scoped
Hi guys,
Does any of these FSAM's include Queen park ? Post code is 6107. I missed out on the NBN 3 houses away when I was living in east vic park :( Hope I'm lucky this time!
Hey Lionel, I'm in Ferndale too (on Bursaria Crescent). Hold on to that DSL for now! I can't even get that anymore (on Vivid wireless). I really hope Ferndale isn't far off given we share the same Cannington exchange...?
Sorry 6CAN03
Are you saying that it isn't 6CAN02? That 6CAN02 will be getting FTTP?
What is 6CAN02? Is that Bentley? What's happening with Bentley? I know it went into detailed design & field inspection over a year ago. Thanks.
Hey happy , does it included Langford ? I lives in Hayden way ,thanks bloody government keep changeling policy using old tech
The rollout map now shows what could be the whole cannington exchange area, excluding Ferndale & Lynwood to be in build prep. Anyone know when that was updated?
YEA! i am so happy
YEA! i am so happy
I hope people here have been reading up on FTTN, there is an ardent discussion here:
whrl.pl/RekBiH
Happy is not the emotion I would describe when talking about FTTN, more like despair.
I would lobby your local council as for example:
http://www.theadvoca
given that Cannington is next to Victoria Park who are getting FTTP and small to medium business are bound to move there (especially if just across the street, e.g. Tate Str). If I was a landlord of a business premises I would be very worried.
The majority of australian voters actually decided that some suburbs in that cannington map were not to be included.
This majority also voted that cannington will not get fibre to premises.
This majority are 100% to blame.
i really think that there is not much we could do in terms of fttp, i have read a lot of post in whirlpool, not every one thinks that internet speed is the most imprtant part of their daily life.
i do want to have fttp, or maybe we should creat a group.
Happy is not the emotion I would describe when talking about FTTN, more like despair.
Interesting development:
whrl.pl/RekNkG
So which is municipality is Cannington? Is it City of Canning? Given the digital divide between 6CAN and 6VIC I would think the situation here for the City of Canning is even more dire/unfair than what is facing the City of Stirling.
Get your local members to get on the act now!
DISCLAIMER: I have no CoI with the developments in 6CAN or 6DBL but I am up in arms over the antics of the NBN having removed us from the FTTP rollout map after Build Prep and not knowing what we are getting and when, so the more we can all stir the pot the better!
Eh could be worse, Como was on the rollout previously and then got removed, look at them now:
http://puu.sh/iztQ3/bbc393f755.jpg
Poor guys :|
Eh could be worse, Como was on the rollout previously and then got removed, look at them now
Same as Winthrop where I am. But it is only worse off in comparison to surrounding areas with FTTP and the added delay. And the latter is because both these areas have HFC cable and at the very worst will get NBN HFC which is way better than FTTN, but NBN is only just trialling HFC and it won't be ready until next year.
The angst in Winthrop and Como is we had Build Preparation for FTTP which has gone to waste and our rollout has been put on hold for another 12-18 months for a slightly inferior product (or we will get FTTP after all). At least Cannington was never on the map and now is and will go to Build soon, and if it was getting FTTP it would probably take 3 years rather than the 1 year to cover all of Cannington .
But getting FTTN, well, I would rather wait 18 months for our HFC to be upgraded to honest and 36 months for FTTP if I had the choice.
At least Cannington was never on the map
It was before the election. Build was supposed to start in November :|
Since it will be FTTN, what exactly changes for us end-users? Seeing as it's still copper to my house, and my adsl modem/router is NBN compatible, is it just a case of changing the connection settings on the modem/router?
FTTP would be different but is it correct to assume changes to FTTN connections are minimal regarding end-user?
I have saw that last week
Although I guess that means that the node for me will be the pillar that I didn't think I was connected to, only 130 metres away � hopefully that will be enough to get 100Mbps but who knows with the crappy copper. My connection dies every time it rains but maybe that fault is further up the line.
Lots of reasons other than the rain which will impact the LNP's FTTN network and the service you receive some of which are described here eg:-
However perhaps NBN and the LNP should be truthful and provide that in addition to the above there will be issues that people will have to address themselves as to why their service is being adversely impacted for example and to expand on ...... s) and ......t) in the above link :-
Bridge Taps when wiring is spit to provide multiple jack points on your telephone cabling inside your property which whilst not an issue for ADSL becomes a major problem for VDSL and higher frequencies as proposed for VDSL2 etc
*Note may also occur external to the property where the copper has been looped.
And then other issues that your going to have to sort through as to where and whose responsibility it is to attempt to fix the problems!!!!! �
Then of course there is the very real possibility of "Corrosion" in each of the multiple Jack points which will cause significant degradation,
And of course if they used different standard Jack points when adding the addition phone points, then that also will impact the service.
So if you've got that sorted then things will be fine then right?
Wrong!
Lots of other problems to deal with eg your VDSL modem increasing its power due to interference on your line which then creates additional crosstalk which is another problem on top of many others, that cause poor speed and performance.
*noting the interference that can impact your Broadband service � can come from a variety of other things inside your home for example
Halogen lamps
Fluorescent lights
Scanners
900 MHz cordless phones
Some mobile phones
AM or home built radios
FAX machine connected to your telephone line
Microwave ovens
Peripheral devices (scanners, external drives etc.) if the modem is located on top of or directly beside these devices
Faulty power adapters.
Timed devices, such as central heating.
Inverters from Solar Panels
Christmas tree lights (especially on �flash� setting).
Faulty set-top boxes, televisions and other appliances.
Power cables running close to telephone wiring in the home.
Appliances with faulty thermostat's eg Air Conditioners
Ducted Vacuum's
Security and Alarm systems
Sky, Freeview and DVD devices
etc and so forth and so on.
*Note the good thing here is � that if you turn everything OFF � then on "your side" at least � you will have minimised the impacts that are effecting your FTTN service!
Better news for those people in Cannington who are lucky enough to get Labor's FTTH! though � is that they... won't have to deal with any of the issues associated with the LNP's cheaper alternative FTTN and HFC networks that will plague them!
Cheers
The Great Jarl aARQ-vark writes...
Bridge Taps when wiring is spit to provide multiple jack points on your telephone cabling inside your property which whilst not an issue for ADSL becomes a major problem for VDSL and higher frequencies as proposed for VDSL2 etc
Is that when they run one pair through multiple punchdown connections?
I have that in my "smarthome". Looks like I'll need to clip it.
Seen a few nodes installed in Cannington/Wilson...?
each one placed right next to the pillar.
spotted 3 telstra vans working on the same corner of Wharf street and Cross street on Tuesday morning. I know there is a pillar near there.
Saw some larger PVC Piping about 10cm going in down Langford Avenue this morning around the Netball courts area. Will need to check if they are trenching some FTTN NBN Fibre.
Saw some works along Albany highway this morning, I think they placed a light green cabinet near Southside Mitsubishi.
Just saw some contractors on George street playing with the pits near the park across from St Norberts, they all seemed to be on break, it was a 3 letter company starting with M
NBN rollout map got updated. Looks like Langford area of Cannington rollout has changed to Build status. Hope they do Queens park soon :(
Hrmm good spot. Logic says that Bentley will be next, then Cannington?
Damn, I'm right in between those two build areas!
A couple of nodes are being built on Upnor st and around the corner on Grayson crt in Wilson. Surprisingly they are quiet close together.
In our area (Wilfred Road, in what used to be Langford before the Roe Hwy cut it off and then it became Thornlie), there is literally not even dial-up due to Telstra's exchange and wires. So everyone around here on the Cannington exchange has had to be trapped to wireless or mobile plans.
For 2 years I was paying Vivid Wireless $79 a month for 100kbps downloads when I was lucky at 3am (mostly around 25kbps). Then I found Red Broadband who stuck a dish on my roof and pointed it somewhere, so now I have hit just over 1GBps download for $50 a month (for 50GB).
Now you know how bad it is in this area that the internet forgot, I was happy to see today that we are just in the 'Build Commenced' area.
Looking at this thread it seems FTTN is the go (NO!!!). I sincerely hope not. We should all complain to our local Fed MP's (Ken Wyatt for Hasluck (Thornlie)) and get them to have a word with Malcolm. Now he's leader he could say that 'Tony made me do it' and then get it done properly. http://www.kenwyatt.com.au/get-in-touch/ . I mentioned the lack of any ADSL in this area to Ken a year ago and he eventually sent out a questionnaire (which hasn't been collated yet!).
Is it possible that some areas in Cannington could get FTTH?
Edit: Aaah shit, it's all FTTN except for a couple of new estates which get FTTP:
http://www.mynbn.info/sa/6CAN
Anyone seen any action on this side of Roe Hwy?
Well I am planning to get the fod when it is ready, I hop it will make a different , I am currently living in langford, which my estimated node will be around less then 800 m
Telstra's latest "NBN rollout schedule" (17/9/2015) shows an expected Ready For Service (RFS) date of 31-Mar-2016 for 6CAN-04 (Bentley, Karawara, Waterford, Wilson). In last week's document it was listed as 14-Jul-2016, along with the other 6CAN service area modules.
http://telstrawholesale.com.
http://telstrawholesale.com
Thanks for that link.
Wilfred Rd Thornlie looks like it's on for July 2016. Here's hoping Malcolm makes it FTTP.
6CAN-01 Beckenham, Langford, Thornlie WA Cannington CSA 14-Jul-2016
2 telstra vans were feeding blue cable into the pit/pillar at the corner of wharf street and cross street at 10:15am Friday morning.
The sad news for people coming off the Cannington CSA, it will be all Fibre to the Node. As a telcoms tech all the NBN equipment installed at the Cannington exchange is for FTTN. It was previously setup for FTTP and it had been taken out and rebuild for FTTN. So all surrounding suburbs will be FTTN, coming from the POI and CSA. The majority of the NBN equipment for FTTP has removed and sent to the Applecross POI, why I couldn't answer maybe for political reasons.
2 telstra vans were feeding blue cable
blue is not normally associated with any NBN rollout these days, NBN are normally using green sheathed fibre
It was previously setup for FTTP and it had been taken out and rebuild for FTTN.
Can you detail the differences of gear and implications ?
my estimated node will be around less then 800 m
How did you found out about your node location?
The West has an article today saying that service will start in March, which matches that Telstra document posted upthread.
The West has an article today
It is stated in http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/6CAN-04 site as well
Right, the new node is being erected around 150m from my home at the corner of Nicholson Road and Cameroon Str. in Langford (around 50m down the Cameroon Str.) The pillar is about 30m from me. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
There is also construction work going on at the corner of Langford Ave & Nightjar Lane, so I'm thinking there might be more than one node given the area of Langford that will need to be covered.
That being said I'm still utterly confused around the how it all fits together with node vs pillar and which distance actually determines your speed.
That being said I'm still utterly confused around the how it all fits together with node vs pillar and which distance actually determines your speed.
all distances are from your premises to the pillar and then to the node.
so for any
all distances are from your premises to the pillar and then to the node.
So will your end speed be determined by distance from premise to pillar, or premise to node?
So will your end speed be determined by distance from premise to pillar, or premise to node?
Ignore the direct "premises to node" distance. Instead, measure the "pillar to node" distance, and add that to the "premises to pillar" distance to determine the length of the copper path from the node to your premises. (ie, in most cases the copper will be connected from the node, into the pillar, then back out again, via various pits then your lead-in to your premises).
Was the NBN fibre installed when the underground power lines were put down in Wilson a couple of years ago? Or are they doing it separately?
I've seen some NBN work around, but am not sure what they are doing.
don't think so, chief. My house already had underground power and no work was done in front of it, but the council still insisted I pay the full rate. I asked some questions about this when the underground power rollout happened. no one could provide an answer. it would have been easier (and cheaper) to lay both at the same time.
I believe nbn are busy installing nodes along the place. I haven't seen any other nbn work in Wilson.
Right, the new node is being erected around 150m from my home at the corner of Nicholson Road and Cameroon Str. in Langford (around 50m down the Cameroon Str.) The pillar is about 30m from me. I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
Do you mean Cameron St ?
does anyone know where any of the boxes located around Queens Park/Beckenham will be?
does anyone know where any of the boxes located around Queens Park/Beckenham will be?
Wanting to know this well, the closest pillar to me is in front of the church on corner of George Street and Railway Parade
I saw NBN signs around the pits yesterday morning (or the morning before) on Albany Hwy; going into the city between the PLE and McDonalds.
I saw NBN signs around the pits yesterday morning (or the morning before) on Albany Hwy; going into the city between the PLE and McDonalds.
That would be part of the Vic Park FTTP rollout
That would be part of the Vic Park FTTP rollout
Too bad that they get FTTP but the rest of Bentley (I suppose) is getting FTTN.
Saw what appears to be dig up holes and some piping sticking out right in front of the Queens Park park along George Street. Possible FTTN node spots?
I've highlight blue dots as Telstra copper pillars and red dots as the dug up holes.
Ok so it sounds like I'm mistaken for thinking that there will be a node wherever there is a pillar? Guess it doesn't make sense to make so many nodes. Hrmmm the node lotto.
Would it be fair to assume nodes are placed along major roads like Wharf St? Is there any pattern with existing nodes in other areas in regards to where they are built?
Ok so it sounds like I'm mistaken for thinking that there will be a node wherever there is a pillar? Guess it doesn't make sense to make so many nodes. Hrmmm the node lotto.
Would it be fair to assume nodes are placed along major roads like Wharf St? Is there any pattern with existing nodes in other areas in regards to where they are built?
I could be wrong about those possible node spots. From earlier posts, it's been said the node is located pretty close to the pillar. Hmm I'll keep a watch out for those dug up holes and confirm whether a node cabinet gets put in or not.
I could be wrong about those possible node spots. From earlier posts, it's been said the node is located pretty close to the pillar.
usually the case, but not always the case.
Sometimes a node may service 2 pillars and will be located between them. Their is one node on Woy Woy that is around 160 metres from one pillar and 120 metres from another, so it seems as though it will be servicing both those pillars.
In the Newcastle thread, their are some pictures of a node servicing 2 pillars, the pillars are about 100 metres apart.
see here for link to a photo whrl.pl/Repnll
On corner of George St and Railway parade where the node has been erected, it looks like they've installed a new telstra pillar. Does that mean they'll be replacing the old pillar that's already there just a few feet away from the new one?
I see on Gibbs Street close to the round-about near Renou Street, NBN has placed the foundation for the FTTN cabinet.
The Pillar is across the road probably about 20-30 metres away.
t looks like they've installed a new telstra pillar.
Yeah I've noticed this too and wonder if this is standard practice or are they creating like a new zone to cover a different area entirely?
Maybe the old Pillar is in ruins and needs full replacing?
Spotted some NBN green fibre being pulled again this morning on Albany Highway and noticed a new pillar, node and some serious trench work outside Super Amart on the weekend.
https://delimiter.com.au/201
If the above goes ahead, does that mean Cannington will be stuck on FTTN? :(
If the above goes ahead, does that mean Cannington will be stuck on FTTN? :(
Its a bit hard to speculate on speculation.
The article refers to beliefs the shadow minister has on what the Coalition may or may not do � this is not fact and has not been announced in any formal capacity. Until such time that there is a formal shift in methodology announced, I would think that the FTTN roll-out would continue as planned. Unless such a shift is imminent, and given much of the Cannington area has already had node cabinets installed and cabled to there corresponding copper pillar, I think we are very much committed to the the FTTN technology at the moment.
If this change was to happen in the future, I would think it would be a logical outcome that areas already completed with a FTTN roll-out would be at the bottom of the list to re-mediate to any 'better' technology whilst areas still remain with no nbn presence.
I guess it wont be happening this month?
So for areas slated for fftn eg not currently in prep or build status would still get fftn regardless and not fttdp ?
So for areas slated for fftn eg not currently in prep or build status would still get fftn regardless and not fttdp ?
As above, your asking a question based on nothing but hearsay at this point. Until nbn or the government actually confirms they are pursuing a fttdp deployment, no one has any reason to think they are getting anything but whatever technology choice there area is currently planned for.
wow. I was so excited about Cannington being one of the first cabs off the rank to get NBN, even if it was FTTN. If this FTTdp goes ahead in 5 years time we will have the worst speeds in the country :/ Not kidding, it this was to eventuate id sell up in 2020 and buy somewhere that has FTTP or FTTdp. Could not live with the ~50mbps knowing that 90% of the rest of the population are on 100mbps guaranteed and much higher.
I'm in the bottom 10% for internet speed now.. I'll be back to where I started.
On corner of George St and Railway parade where the node has been erected, it looks like they've installed a new telstra pillar.
The old pillar is full, and doesn't even lock down any more. It definitely needs replacing.
Fair bit of activity on Brixton Street since last Friday. The node location for my pillar has been marked up and barriers installed, so hoping to see work start there shortly.
The old pillar is full, and doesn't even lock down any more. It definitely needs replacing.
Full? So I guess the new pillar is for new housing that don't currently have a line? No lines from the old one will be migrated over?
What I think is my pillar (no labelling/numbering on it) is finally being worked on.
Corner of Station & Campbell.
My pillar is CANN122 and I suspect that is it. I spoke to a guy working on it yesterday morning and he said they were connecting the pillar to the new cabinet on Campbell St about 200m away.
If that is so, then I am at least 700m from the cabinet. I was hoping they would build a node on Station St next to the pillar OR across the road towards Dabchick Close where there appears to be a RIM/ISAM (or at least that is what I think they are!).
My pillar is CANN122 and I suspect that is it.
Maybe I'm wrong then. My pillar is CANN5 (according to myBroadband) but I've never seen a pillar with that marking.
Maybe it's further up Station St.
My pillar in Langford was one of the first to be worked on and now it's been sitting there with a barricade around it and mud dug up for almost a month.. and my line sync has dropped like crazy since and I'm getting horrible net drop outs. Should I call my Isp or just put up with it till the contractors come and start working on it again? Looks like they have'nt finished works on it because no other pillar in Langford has a barricade around it and mud dug up, so I'm assuming they have probably hit a problem with that pillar or have not had enough time to finish working on it so I'm left with crappy net.
How long until I can try out this FTTN lottery? There's been a node at the end of my block for weeks now. I get a little sad each time I drive past it. I am moving house at the end of next month though and I'd love to have something close to fast internet for even a few days :(
Pretty sure that nobody can get service until the whole area is marked as RFS.
6CAN-08 RFS has been 13th of May for some months now � around December if I recall correctly.
Cool.
Not all that long until Cannington gets all fired up. Let's see how the CVC's go across the providers, and if the screaming commences shortly afterwards or not.
I'm not sure if I want to sign up with iiNet after the thread that's haunting them right now.
The way I understand it each FTTN cabinet has a 10Gb fibre out of it (not sure if this is fully provisioned from day 1 or not?), supports up to 384 connections, and the providers CVC is provisioned further upstream of the node which hands data back into the providers network.
a 3 week delay from March 24 to now April 15? God thats annoying. Im meant to go on holiday late may, so by time i get the NBN installed ill barely have it for a week before i go away.
Im meant to go on holiday late may, so by time i get the NBN installed ill barely have it for a week before i go away.
I wouldnt go to the bank on:
1) ordering it
2) getting it installed
3) and running in any quick timeframe.
There is some noise on some of the other FTTN threads where the UX as been nothing short of a ClusterF**k. Granted there are good examples too where it happened relatively quickly but id say its 50/50 from what I read.
Im in 6DBL-01 (Doubleview exchange) scheduled to be RFS on April Fools day � will let you know how long my hook up takes if it actually eventuates at all.
Im in 6DBL-01 (Doubleview exchange) scheduled to be RFS on April Fools da
See you in the iiNet FTTN failblog thread. :D
See you in the iiNet FTTN failblog thread. :D
Holy crap � thats a horror thread if i have ever read one. <scratches iiNet FTTN off list>
Yeah. Might end up going with Telstra on this one. I'm just getting a new line into my place now through iiNet, not sure if that locks me into one of their services or not.
Don't really think there is a fast churn between NBN providers like there is on ADSL servies at the moment either.
Good times.
Can the first people on the FTTN on this POI with TPG let us know how cheap they are being with the CVC?
I'm RFS 15th of May or something around there and am currently with TPG ADSL2+ but won't sign another contract with them until I'm sure the CVC capacity is at least reasonable. Considering it will be unlimited I don't have insane expectations and don't mind a slowdown to 20-30Mbps in peak time so long as there is no packet loss or latency spikes.
Just don't want any of that 1-2Mbps with >50% packet loss rubbish I see posted in the iiNet FTTN thread. Telstra doesn't look too bad now considering you know they will provision more than enough CVC and the vast majority of people you are competing with the CVC for just check emails and facebook :P
Don't really think there is a fast churn between NBN providers like there is on ADSL servies at the moment either.
On FTTP you signup for another service on a different NTD port (you have 4 ports) and it's lit up the second the ISP processes it. I've heard of people having a connection activated in 2 minutes.
Who knows how it will work on FTTN
Theoretically it should be instant since all ISP's will use the same DSLAM in your local node, so you should just change the user/password and it should instantly be ready. It may even use IPOE where you don't need to even put a password in like most of the FTTP NBN providers use.
The only reason ADSL took ages to churn was because unless you were moving between two Telstra Wholesale providers (ie same DSLAM) where it was instant, if you were moving from one provider to another who had their own DSLAM's someone had to physically go to the exchange and pull your phone line out and move it to the new providers DSLAM.
Yeah exactly right!
Also, does anyone have any comment around the "co-existence" period, with ADSL2 in the mix with the VDSL. I assume this co-existence would exist between premises and the pillars predominantely, but also in the 100, 200+ pair tie cables on the way back to the Exchange, NOT between the FTTN cabinet and the pillar.
At one point NBNCo said during the co-existence period, the "PIR", effectively the sync rate, would be limited to 12Mb. I don't understand this however when RSP's are pushing out 12/25/100 and not mentioning it.
Perhaps it has changed. This is all I can find.
http://blog.jxeeno.com/incor
I suppose with a sense of irony, congestion perhaps wouldn't be so bad if everyone was forced onto 12Mb, but where is the point in that as opposed to addressing the root cause of the issue. ISPs are just being tight because they are having to pay fo NBN CVCs on top of their traditional backhaul, and effectively waiting for the old network to be dropped before they put coin into the CVCs where it's more desperately needed.
Perhaps ISP's don't even have network/traffic visibility of the CVC's and don't know they are congested until the complaints begin. That would be disappointing if that was the case. We monitor our national network with Solarwinds, and constantly monitoring the WAN links, datacentre links etc and it's all actively alerted on should things go pear shaped.
This is the reason I'm fairly keen to hold back from NBN at the very least until large segments of the old copper network begin to get turned off and for the most part the NBN is the predominant network. That could be, and likely will be years though.
@R1ch4rd, hi neighbour!!! we're freakishly close in distance, has your internet been playing up the past few weeks? (im getting 3.2 down/.9 up)
@R1ch4rd, hi neighbour!!! we're freakishly close in distance, has your internet been playing up the past few weeks? (im getting 3.2 down/.9 up)
Dude I'm in a new apartment on Carden Rd and don't even have a line yet. I have Telstra coming on Tuesday to hook me up. I've been sneaky and found the MDF for the block and can see that the whole block of 25 units has a 10pair coming in ??
Anyway, there are a bunch of spare pairs left and I should be able to get an ADSL service no problem. In fact i looked in the telecomms book in the MDF and can see 2 units have iiNet ADSL already.
I don't anticipate I'll have any problems with sync speeds, in fact given the line is 300M from the Exchange it full sync at ~24Mb. That's not to say there aren't backhaul problems from iiNet's DSLAM in the Exchange. Historically Cannington has been well looked after in that regard.
I'm that close to it you could run a length of Cat6 copper Ethernet to it.
What speed are you syncing at?
Can the first people on the FTTN on this POI with TPG let us know how cheap they are being with the CVC?
The problem is it will be the first people that won't have any issues at all � until they report it as such and everyone else jumps on!
@doobydoo Weird.. I'm also freakishly close to @R1ch4rd... Just a fence away. There must be a heap of us in this area. My service has been rock solid, but I'm on EFM not ADSL.
If i get tempted to get connected to the node downstairs, i'll be going Telstra at the higher cost.
There is an NBN stand near the food court @ Carousel. Had a pretty "frank" chat with him about it all and he seemed to play the game :) :)
I think Telstra do a better job of allocating enough bandwidth to the POI interconnects. As to why that is, take a guess. $95 for $500gb per month though.
There must be a heap of us in this area.
iirc Cannington is the largest exchange in Western Australia in terms of premises served. First place iiNet put a DSLAM because of the density.
iirc Cannington is the largest exchange in Western Australia in terms of premises served. First place iiNet put a DSLAM because of the density.
I more meant within such a short distance to the exchange. Cannington covers a huge area, but I suppose I'm not the only one who chose a house based on it's proximity to the exchange.
So is anyone actually connected yet? MyNBN shows lots of places with a RFS date of 24th of March yet when you look at info for the Cannington POI there is only 384 people RFS and 100% are FTTP so it's likely just apartment buildings recently built.
Starting to think perhaps the first person will be connected some time around July ;)
MyNBN shows lots of places with a RFS date of 24th of March
Mynbn hasn't been updated since 31st of Jan. New rfs is 15th April
New rfs is 15th April
Damn you 6CAN-03!
6CAN-02 (Node on Carden Drive next to the Police station) has has come forward 7 days to 20th May. I'm currently working on getting an additional lead-in to the complex I am in on Carden Drive.
Builder ran a 10pair to the street for 25units !?!?
Any new date for 6CAN-08?
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