whirlpool

Thanks for the thread, I am on the NBN website and can't see the map that you have presented. Where abouts are you looking?

My map is customised from a few sources, including NBN. The main relevant data at this point is the big green ASA over Stanhope Gardens (sourced from NBN's map)

Thanks very much for the update mrmac

I was super excited as I live in Kellyville Ridge. The houses directly behind my back fence are getting it� I just miss out :'(

O.P.

nachoman00 writes...

I was super excited as I live in Kellyville Ridge. The houses directly behind my back fence are getting it� I just miss out :'(

Well if it helps the rest of Kellyville area should progressively begin over the next 12 months!

This can't come soon enough...

I've always wanted NBN... We just moved to Kellyville two months ago from Mascot. When we were in Mascot, we waited years to see if they would finally put NBN in... And then, on the week (nay, on the DAY) that we moved out, I got an email from TPG saying "Congratulation, your house is now eligible for NBN!!! You must be excited"... I felt like I was going to cry from the "excitement"...

We're stuck with Telstra atm, averaging 4-8 mbps... That's a tough pill to swallow coming from a stable 20 odd mpbs when we're in Mascot...

Wow geez that would've been a real kick in the guts! And now when we finally get it here it'll be the watered down version.

Unfortunately the exchange here in Kellyville is severely congested. When I first moved into the area in 2007 I was getting 11mbps which was fairly respectable for an outer suburban area. By the time I moved out of that place 3 years later, obviously a lot more people had connected, a zillion more houses had been built, and my connection had dropped to 6mbps.

Now in this house, which is 2 streets away from where I was, I'm lucky to get 4.8.

Once these houses behind me get NBN I'm tempted to offer to pay for their internet on the highest speed plan so I can connect to them wirelessly.

I moved for a suburb on Telstra cable getting 30mbps down, to max 5mbps down. I loose it pretty much every night. The biggest kicker is the suburb was in the 3 year plan for FTTP and now we will get crappy FTTN. What's worse is all the house built in my area have provisioning for FTTP. But they won't do it because the copper is brand new! YAY!

O.P.

NBNCo roping, rodding and inspections on Windsor Road at Kellyville between Homeworld and the BP. Assume they've begun build prep for yet to be released FSAM, which therefore should go on the map next month.

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Oh nice. That�s about 1-2 km away from my place. Hopefully this spell good news� Also, the house (literally) in front of mine (some new development) got NBN� I wonder if I can negotiate with the owner� �hey, psst, I�ll pay 50% of your NBN, just let me draw an Ethernet cable from your place to mine�

O.P.

Green Fibre is in process of being laid at the intersection of Wrights Road and Green Road this morning, being near Kellyville Plaza shops. So another FSAM in progress which I assume would be the bulk of the area west of Green Road. It should be updated on NBN maps this week.

Green Fibre is in process of being laid at the intersection of Wrights Road and Green Road this morning

That's pretty exciting, anyone see anything on Hezlett Road? There are two boxes at the end of Hezlett Road near Whithers Road. Anyone seen that, could be power though?

O.P.

http://jxeeno.wdfiles.com/local--files/blog:nbn-the-first-node-arises/comparefttn.md.png

That's pretty exciting, anyone see anything on Hezlett Road? There are two boxes at the end of Hezlett Road near Whithers Road. Anyone seen that, could be power though?

The below image prepared by Jxeeno of http://mynbn.info has a good comparison of a FTTN or an FTTP.

If it is a smaller or larger green box, may be power. I'll try and drive past there later in the week, as there is a Telstra pillar at that location so it's possible that it could be a Node.

If it is a smaller or larger green box, may be power. I'll try and drive past there later in the week, as there is a Telstra pillar at that location so it's possible that it could be a Node.

It's exactly that picture of the green boxes next to each other.

O.P.

It's exactly that picture of the green boxes next to each other.

Then it looks like North Kellyville is already well into Build Phase.

That's pretty exciting, anyone see anything on Hezlett Road? There are two boxes at the end of Hezlett Road near Whithers Road

Interesting that would seem to put the Nodes in place for
KELL:412 79 premises
KELL:310 214 premises

that could be handled by 1 node, but it would seem they have planned for future housing expansion in Kell:412 wonder if anything is on the cards with council currently

O.P.

I drove briefly past them this morning on a detour, and sorry but I don't believe that it is NBN Nodes. They look to be this type of Telstra RIM & ISAM (https://crowdsupport.telstra.com.au/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/2366i6B72CDE34E120962?v=mpbl-1).

Will double check on the weekend, but they look fairly new. Interesting that Telstra are deploying new infra up there given how many new developments there are.

That's pretty exciting, anyone see anything on Hezlett Road? There are two boxes at the end of Hezlett Road near Whithers Road. Anyone seen that, could be power though?

I saw them yesterday � 90% sure they are Telstra Rims.

I don't understand why they are installing RIMs, isn't that a waste of money and wouldn't a Node just be installed?

I guess they have to � only a handful of estates seem to be getting NBN. At a guess less than 10%

August... Ahh my 12 year old is going to do my head in with his uploads before then, I was so hopeful that we'd be getting it in the next couple of months.

2KEL-03: 19-Aug-2016

Interesting that the build for 2KEL-03 has moved to April but the RFS date remains the same.

I spotted some guys poking around on The Ponds Blvd yesterday afternoon. Can't recall the business name but they had a small army.

I am in Glenwood, which I believe is 2KEL-04. Any updates on this area? Build is supposed to start in March according to the NBN website.

Can't wait to have some decent speeds back. Had 30 Mbps at my old place 5 years ago in Waitara.

I'm off Adelphi St in Rouse Hill and under 2ROU-02 I believe. Was hoping for the end of the year to have it but it seems that's out the window now. Will have to put up with my 2.7mb adsl for a while longer.

http://s8.postimg.org/62jvzj6ed/IMG_1044.jpg

So looks delayed a few months.

I'm pretty sure the majority of us saw this coming. So how long is a piece of string? Believe this is just the beginning of delay's/excuses.

Hi All,

Can I ask how do you know which area you are planned to be? (e.g. KEL-03, KEL-08, etc)?

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azure7 writes...

Can I ask how do you know which area you are planned to be? (e.g. KEL-03, KEL-08, etc)?

Plug your address into http://mynbn.info and look for the "SAM" entry on the left.

I'm in Bella vista waters but mynbn.info shows 2CAS as the sam.. Not 2kel. Interesting.

Could be why nbn tell me I may get FTTH still

Zubs writes...

I'm in Bella vista waters

I have a work mate in Bella Vista, just checked his address, he's getting HFC.

yes HFC in older parts of bella vista
Bella vista waters (near Celebration drive / old Windsor road � ie near the new station) will be getting FTTN and FTTH from what I understand.
my street is around 10 years old, but is surrounded by greenfields, hence I am told we will get FTTP � however late 2017/early 2018 :(

so they put up this big green box next to my street and the node :

http://s29.postimg.org/5k8z4fduf/IMG_1039.jpg

http://s15.postimg.org/nuzph527v/IMG_1043.jpg

what does this mean and when will I get my NBN !!!!???? :)

Thanks Kinchega.

I did that, but it said Address could not be found. We're living in a "newly" developed area.

I said "newly" as the area was developed and registered back in 2014ish. I guess it takes awhile for it to be put into the map...

Though the house in front of us have it as Kell-07... (3-4 m away � literally across the street) so I'd wager it's the same SAM maybe...

Guys

Noticed some working happening on marella ave kellyville.

Could this be the big news we have been waiting for in this part of Kellyville for 8+ years?

O.P.

NBN updated their map. Interestingly none of the existing SAM's were updated as going into Build. A new SAM, focused around the Redden Drive over to Acres Road Kellyville has shown up as being in build phase.

It's an odd update, as a few areas are left blank, this will cover part of the Optus HFC area, and also I live in that area and have seen zero activity.

Preparation works end of last week in Poole Road close to Windsor road end

I live in Yarrandale Street and I can see them working around my house every day. MyNBN updated their map as well, it's now estimating a finish for 2KEL-02 around July 2016.

Sweet, now I can get some updates on my area.

According to the MTM test site, I'm in the 100 down area... somehow i really doubt it lol. However, at least using MrMac's map I found a confirmed node within 300m of my house =)

Just need to figure out when 2KEL-04 will be RFS.

Anyone see any work around the Glenwood area? I've kept my eye out but haven't seen any contractors around at all.

How do you know you are in 2kel06 or 2kel 02 etc?

I am in Bella vista and trying to figure this out.

I suspect 2kel06 but mynbn.info says my address has not started build.. Although 2kel06 has..

You are in 2kel-06. The website just takes some time to update. Same thing happened to my area, took them a month to update it from preparation to Build for my address.

I haven't seen any activity in Glenwood either. Keen to hear some info on what the status of delivery is though. Anyone have any further info for 2-kel04?

Not sure. Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject can answer that. They are also digging directly opposite from the main dig (where the pillar is) across the street. Not sure where the node will be positioned. Will wait and see.

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Here are some pics taken just now near KEL215.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ew4a34qfl13qkux/AAAQdpxwLmw40eGELcCyy30qa?dl=0

The site of the NBN cabling is on the same side of the street as the Tophat RIM about 10m away in the direction of the roundabout on Brampton Dr.

Techno_Guy writes...

Here are some pics taken just now near KEL215.

Not having any technical knowledge on this issue but the Node placement seems very close (to close) to the the street (gutter). Wont take much to knock that over.

I was thinking the same. Any hoon exiting the roundabout a little fast in the wet will tag it there for sure.

Hi,

Found 2KEL-05-09 (not currently on MrMac's map) it is right next to pillar 319

http://i.imgur.com/s6EF4QL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/buhiPlU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/29DrOzB.jpg

Also does anyone know if you will be able to "self install" with FTTN with BYO modem or will you be supplied a "fibre like" box with uni-d ports ?

thanks

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wouldyoubelieve writes...

Also does anyone know if you will be able to "self install" with FTTN with BYO modem or will you be supplied a "fibre like" box with uni-d ports ?

FTTN doesn't have the box installed inside the house, you hook the modem up to the phone line like you would for adsl. You'll need a compliant vdsl2 modem though.

That placement for the node looked to me too close to the roadway � especially since there's a park right there and quite a bit of potential to set it back from the road. Maybe there's a good reason why it needs to be so close to the road because of other services getting in the way (?) but if it does get clobbered it seems to be an unnecessary outages and expense (public expense at the end of the day). Looks to me like the upcoming election (?) is potentially behind a bit more fast-tracking and cost-cutting but to what end ?

I'm at a residence near the intersection of Hezlett Road and Samantha Riley.

Just a heads up � the NBN guys were 'fiddling' with the copper junctions in preparation for a new node at this intersection � now my phone line and DSL sync is abysmal � crackling on the line, and DSL sync 10mbps worse than it was

Fun times.

telcochaos writes...

You may need to lodge a line fault. They'll probably be more interested in the crackle than the sync speed.

Also, 10mbps worse! Wish our connection had that much to lose in the first place. The NBN folks stuffed about with our line too when they upgraded the pillar to the larger sort, only lost 0.3mbps in sync though.

All the nodes I've seen popping up in The Ponds are right by the roadside also.

Does anyone know what the 2 storm water pipes are for in the nodes? I ask for 2 reasons. One is out of interest and the other is the node being built on my street has these and the 2 conduits uncovered. All the other ones I've seen have had these taped off while waiting for the cabinet to be installed.

Tiger05 writes...

Does anyone know what the 2 storm water pipes are for in the nodes?

they are not storm water pipes, they are communications conduits.
for getting the copper into an out of the node and also for the fibre

quite often they go nowhere and are just starters that finish just past the concrete plinth, the only reason to "cap" these is to stop any concrete getting into them, water would be of no concern.

Crews working in Greensborough ave Rouse Hill today pulling fibre.
FTTP confirmed.

O.P.

2KEL-04 & 2KEL-07 listed in Build Phase now.

2KEL-06 still says "preparation".
I rang NBN � and they said their 3 year plan says construction should start in January 2016. I queried this saying "It's May now" and the lady said to me "Well our plans are accurate, and it says January 2016". Ridiculous.

Crews working in Greensborough ave Rouse Hill today pulling fibre.
FTTP confirmed.

FTTP Confirmed? How do you know? Everything I see for that area is FTTN.

I'm interested as I'm a few streets away.

2KEL-04 in build phase? Woohoo! Any idea on when it's scheduled for completion?

O.P.

My latest map project � https://nbnmtm.cartodb.com/viz/6ab38cc4-1b74-11e6-a856-0e3ff518bd15/public_map

Colours scaling for speed isn't done yet, but each address should contain current known tech, estimated node distance (if node known), estimated pillar distance (if pillar known) and estimated speed based on the previous. There are minor bugs, eg. KELL:30 thinks it's routes to the pillar are 83,400km's away.

Tekkbot writes...

Everything I see for that area is FTTN.

There are some small pockets of FTTP being delivered, I think it's related to some old Telstra Velocity installs. Most likely you'll have FTTN, but there is a very tiny chance you'll get FTTP. Welcome to Node-lotto.

wouldyoubelieve writes...

My latest map project

*two thumbs up*

It states a minimum guaranteed speed which is pretty pathetic

"During the co-existence period (lasting up 18 months after an area is switched on), nbn guarantees a minimum port speed of 12/1 Mbps"

I read about this sometime back, something to do with co-existence with adsl to reduce interference that might slow diwn adsl

I think I'll wait for some reports to roll in before making the move.

enquire about NBN FTTP

new modem TG797.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, if you are on FTTP, you don't need a modem, just a router. Also the TG797 looks like an ADSL modem, why would you need that for FTTP?

Damn so envious of people getting FTTP, though I haven't moved to the area yet :D

SheldonE writes...

Also the TG797 looks like an ADSL modem, why would you need that for FTTP?

The TG797n does vdsl/vdsl2 I believe.

We'll be sticking with Optus when FTTN comes. Have a provided Sagemcom f@st 3864 modem we don't use, hope it's not utter crap.

arx7 writes...

Damn so envious of people getting FTTP

Who's getting FTTP?

SheldonE writes...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, if you are on FTTP, you don't need a modem, just a router. Also the TG797 looks like an ADSL modem, why would you need that for FTTP?
This is correct, also anyone wanting to use a non ISP supplied modem for FTTP should be very careful as it can actually block your connection and you will need to have the ISP unlock it. I can't remember the technical terms.

supbah writes...

Who's getting FTTP?
I am, located in North Kellyville. All the new pits around the area say NBN and not Telstra as well.

Rouse hill has a mix of Technology, I have Velocity where I am but I can also see NBN cabinet around so both will be in my area, there is no copper

https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/nbn/Documents/rollout-list.pdf

I am, located in North Kellyville

Whaaaaaat. Lucky!
I'm nearby but pretty certain I'm with FTTP's demented cousin.
Maybe one day in the future when I'll be blessed by the internet gods and earn enough cash to get fibre installed straight to the home

Edit: Out of curiosity, is there a way to check if which areas in Australia have FTTP for when I maybe considering moving?
(I'm not saying you should choose where to live based on fibre connection, but it'll certainly be a 'pro' when deciding)

Work has now started on Kell:47 in Eastbourne estate in Stanhope Gardens. There were vans parked there today and they've started digging trenches and marking the ground.

supbah writes...

Out of curiosity, is there a way to check if which areas in Australia have FTTP for when I maybe considering moving?
Sorry not sure, it still doesn't show on the NBN map for me. I only know because NBN dropped letters off in our street saying that will be installing an NBN utility box on the outside within the next 4 months.

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Still no update for the ponds on the quakers hill side of stanhope parkway My neighbours say that fibre had already been laid when the area was developed but this makes no sense why wouldn't they service the area then? But I do remember when a tech came to connect the phone line he said its was fibre enabled already in 2012. If that is the case then FTTN wouldn't be bad but why delay for so long? Doesn't add up.

Jaango writes...

The Ponds is a mixed bag when it comes to FTTP/FTTN, my house is actually located closer to a FTTP cabinet (the the point where I can see if from my house) than FTTN but I'm stuck with the latter.

Depending on when the infrastructure was installed will determine what we get. If you want to get an idea of how The Ponds is serviced by FTTP check out the current maps, any location which is currently available will be a FTTP zone and those in construction are FTTN.

I'm in the same boat, but in Bella Vista. I can see FTTP cabinets from my street (2KEL-06) and originally my street was scheduled to get FTTP, but around 3 months ago that changed to FTTN. Not sure why.. oh well.

And still no news of when FTTN 2KEL-06 will start build!

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I think our area already has fibre because that's what the technicians who come down to the Pitt to install tel connections say. Same with me andmy neighbours. If this is the case then they sould let other providers like iinet/aapt/tpg provide it just like in Saint Mary's being serviced by iinet. I think we need to push for concrete answers which our MP is ever so willing to do unlike the non transparent guy who literally invented the Internet.

So it's either the technicians don't know what they are talking about or the area is fragmented or nbn doesn't have the Backhaul which doesn't seem the case as the ponds is already serviced.

spedwards writes...

The Ponds is a mixed bag when it comes to FTTP/FTTN, my house is actually located closer to a FTTP cabinet (the the point where I can see if from my house) than FTTN but I'm stuck with the latter.

Yes I think it is totally stupid.
Some streets one side is fibre, one is FTTN. Other streets they are part fibre, part FTTN.
This just goes to show the level of competency in the rollout planning and design!

Page 19. Not sure of accuracy.

Region Identifier --- Suburb --- State ----- CSA Name --- Expected date of Ready For Service

2KEL-02 Stanhope Gardens, The Ponds, Kellyville Ridge NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 30-Jun-2016

2KEL-03 Kellyville Ridge, Stanhope Gardens, The Ponds NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 30-Sep-2016

2KEL-04 Glenwood NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 28-Apr-2017

2KEL-05 Kellyville NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 30-Jun-2016

2KEL-07 Kellyville NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 23-Sep-2016

2KEL-08 Kellyville NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 08-July-2016

Phantom writes...

https://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/content/dam/tw/nbn/Documents/rollout-list.pdf

Page 19. Not sure of accuracy.

Thanks. For those in 2ROU:

2ROU-02 Rouse Hill NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 11-Nov-2016
2ROU-03 Beaumont Hills NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 02-Sep-2016

finder.com.au still saying 25 Nov for 2ROU-03.

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Ok I spoke to a Telstra technican who said that kellyville, stanhope and ponds were expected to be cut off by oct in 3 months. He said if they haven't commenced yet worst case was 1 year.

He also said the technicians who advised us the area was fibre enabled was probably talking about telstra fibre infrastructure which is the lucent ISAM, fibre to that node.

If we are on QUA then I think it's 1 year or more as it's not showing any info for our places which I presume the below are being shown on nbn/finder.

2KEL-02 Stanhope Gardens, The Ponds, Kellyville Ridge NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 30-Jun-2016

2KEL-03 Kellyville Ridge, Stanhope Gardens, The Ponds NSW Castle Hill 2 CSA 30-Sep-2016

And once again 2KEL-06 gets no mention :(

While working from home. Internet drops out and dead phone line. Go side to find a guy replace all the copper joints across the road from my house. http://imgur.com/WNYDdwZ

Walked up to him and asked what you're doing. He advises just replacing all the copper connectors in preparation for NBN and there are guys around the corner doing NBN work. http://imgur.com/T4exnUe http://imgur.com/zKvenN0.

For those in Glenwood. Looks like they start to put in the cabinet on Kingsmere Drive

Hopefully RFS will be sooner then December as previously advised.

This was installed over the weekend in Macquarie Ave...

http://i1057.photobucket.com/albums/t392/BleedingFingersKoL/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsygvihdja.jpeg

RFS still says Sep for this area, hopefully they're ahead of schedule... Can't wait for a decent connection :-)

Installed my new Nighthawk X8 router on the weekend and put my old Billion 7800n into pure bridge mode. So just need an ISP that provides a bridgeable modem...

Wink writes...

I got a leaflet in the mail for IINET saying NBN would be coming soon to my address.

After saying that I hadn't received anything from iinet, funnily enough I got my letter today!

O.P.

Wink writes...

How do I check if TPG have access to provide NBN services at 2KEL03?

Call them on the day you go RFS. Expect that most ISP's would have coverage already

Any news of cabinets or NBN holes around Phoenix Avenue in Stanhope Gardens!?

2 days away from the supposed RFS date and haven't heard much from ISPs. Does anyone have any more information?

Hoopla writes...

Any news of cabinets or NBN holes around Phoenix Avenue in Stanhope Gardens!?

Don't think that Phoenix Avenue is on the build list at the moment. Not listed on finder.com.au as far as I can see.

I have seen 2 pillars go up on Conrad Road and Gunsynd Street in Kellyville Ridge but nothing from ISP's so far........RFS is on the 30th June apparently...........has anyone heard anything?

JoshC writes...

2 days away from the supposed RFS date and haven't heard much from ISPs. Does anyone have any more information?

I was at the Telstra Rouse Hill store and they have a countdown to 30 June live date. I asked the rep when I was signing up that everyone who registered to be notified and are on a 30 June RFS received a call about 2 weeks ago. They haven't dropped any leaflets or anything but the rep made it pretty clear that my area (2KEL-05) is definitely going live on Thursday.

Heliography writes...

2KEL-05

Any idea about 2KEl-02.....meant to be RFS 30th June but no news yet

Heliography writes...

but the rep made it pretty clear that my area (2KEL-05) is definitely going live on Thursday.

Awesome. Thanks for the info.

Any idea about 2KEl-02

I'm assuming that its the same idea with KEL-02.

JoshC writes...

I'm assuming that its the same idea with KEL-02.

But none of the ISP website are stating anything......Do you reckon its worth signing up for a plan now and be ahead in the line when the service begins?

O.P.

Do you reckon its worth signing up for a plan now and be ahead in the line when the service begins?

The ISP's can't order until the SAM goes active in the NBN database. Even on date of RFS, you still need to wait for NBN to update their system.

Do you reckon its worth signing up for a plan now and be ahead in the line when the service begins?

I should'be been more clear � Telstra are currently accepting orders for the NBN, which they'll process as soon as they're allowed to, just like what MrMac said.

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JoshC writes...

2 days away from the supposed RFS date and haven't heard much from ISPs. Does anyone have any more information?

Skymesh are close to offering FTTN services, within two weeks.
I'm going to wait until they are ready � well probably!
Everything else on my end is ready to go!

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Mike SSV writes...

Everything else on my end is ready to go!

What hardware did you go for?

I have the ASUS DSL-AC68U, assume that is still considered good for FTTN?

Mike SSV writes...

Skymesh

Who do they use as their provider?

Daemonseed316 writes...

What hardware did you go for?

I bought a Linksys X6200 just to put into bridge mode. From JB Hi-Fi, so any issues I'll just exchange.
I have a Synology Router now.

I have the ASUS DSL-AC68U, assume that is still considered good for FTTN?

Read here: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2488180
Just remember you are on your own if you don't use your RSPs modem / router.