I see there is a lot of activity around my area of Pakenham (Heritage) this week with the NBN FTTN rollout underway. It's strange that we weren't on the rollout map for the foreseeable future then all of a sudden the build started.
I've been reading up on some of the FTTN trial sites, but it seems like this area will be one of the first FTTN areas that isn't a trial so will be interesting to see how long it takes them to get rolled out and what customer experiences will be like with existing copper, speeds, distance to nodes, etc.
Has anyone seen any nodes go up yet or have any more info they would like to share?
I've been reading up on some of the FTTN trial sites, but it seems like this area will be one of the first FTTN areas that isn't a trial so will be interesting to see how long it takes them to get rolled out
Yes it is starting very soon ...next week I Believe I was invited to work on it (the rollout).
But passed on the opportunity.
Redland Bay has been in full swing for 4 to 6 weeks now.
2 FSAMS civils now completed or close to it.
these guys were working near our place just over a week ago, just after they started working we started loosing all our TV channels, by the way pixilating & dropping out, anybody else lost TV stations. I know there has been a lot of people around Lakeside & various other spots around town that also have lost Tv stations.
Has anyone seen any nodes go up yet or have any more info they would like to share?
I don't live in Pakenham but parent do. Don't know area very well but if it is where I think you mean it is earmarked to go live April � May 2016. As well as Nodes keep an I out for trucks with big spools of green cable (fibre). Dad said he saw workmen pushing fibre through the Telstra conduit on Main street heading towards the town centre.
To keep an eye on when your area is estimated use http://mynbn.info
This isn't the official website but this guy is a genius and often has the info up on his website quicker than NBN Co. Just enter you street address on the main page.
I've seen a lot of works as well around heritage springs and now down Mcgregor Road...not sure how long the roll out would be but im wondering if anyone already has FTTN. I'm considering if its even worth the upgrade.
I'm currently on ADSL 2+ in pakenham and getting 1.3MBs download with an upload of about 0.058MBs and wondering if FTTN would even better these speeds.
If anyone has any experience feedback would be much appreciated :)
and wondering if FTTN would even better these speeds.
The minimum speeds for FTTN is 25mbps. But if you are fairly close to a Node, you'll get even better speeds.
I'd definitely upgrade if I was you, I don't think you'll have a choice in the long run as they'll discontinue portions of the copper network. Those speeds are pretty shoddy for ADSL 2+ too, you should get that looked in to, unless you're like a fair whack away from the exchange.
Those speeds are pretty shoddy for ADSL 2+ too,
That's in megabytes, not megabits so I'd say the speeds are very good.
I think im about 1k away from the Exchange.
I used to have Adsl2 at my old home as was lucky to get 0.5megabytes a second lol so coming to 1.2 megabytes a sec at my new place i thought wasnt bad hhaaha obviously its below par which is why im excited for FTTN
but if indeed the minimum for FTTN is 25mbps then ill def be upgrading lol
I've seen a number of nodes going up on/around Eagle Drive. Fiber was deployed earlier this week up the streets also. I'll be about 80m (walking distance) from my closest node, according to NBN.info I should expect between 80-100meg... Fingers crossed!
wow thats unreal.
that would be amazing speeds,
the website doesnt give that type of info for my address yet, heres hoping it updates soon like yours.
If you see some nodes going in please mention the address here and I might get a google map overlay going or something. I see they are putting something in at 12 Heritage Blvd in Heritage Springs which started yesterday, unsure whether it's a node or not as it's just hole digging at the moment.
the website doesnt give that type of info for my address yet, heres hoping it updates soon like yours.
I don't believe he got his node location from mynbn.info, he just used the data they have collected on existing trial sites to estimate the speed. He must know the node location from physically seeing it as I can't see any nodes shown in Pakenham yet.
Edit: FYI the FTTN section of the mynbn.info site is here http://fttn.mynbn.info/
Interesting, hoping i see a Node pop up near me soon.
Does anyone know if there is any congestion on these type of set ups?
im currently on a business plan for adsl for the biggest reason as it gives me 0 congestion.
the best way to find that out is to speak to people who are in this area connected via FTTP (like Lakeside and other new estates) as I suspect they would be terminating at the same place (Cranbourne). Our SuperNode seems to be located in Beaconsfield Upper if I am reading it correctly so the bandwidth of that would be shared between FTTP and FTTN, but upgradable to a point.
Congestion per node is another story and will be different per node sharing the 2Gbit speed to the supernode each node has in place (from what I've read). Because we don't have tiny blocks or heaps of units hopefully it won't be too bad per node, but that's yet to be seen as to how far away from each other they place them.
You're spot on. Whilst I'm 80m walking distance I allowed double for the cable length just in case Telstra did something funny in my court.
A node popped up last week in front of the Neighbours house. Now the wait to see how long before service becomes available. I assume that's still going to take a while
Glad to see the roll out under-way in parts of Pakenham...I'm in the build preparation area of Pakenham, hopefully wont be too long before they start here. Anyone have any idea how long that may be.
I assume that's still going to take a while
on the nbn.info website and a few others it stated services would be available in april next year.
hopfully its quicker than that!
I noticed my area went green in late August and brown about two weeks ago, so let's call it 6-8 weeks � this corresponds with the dates on mynbn.info as well.
New node almost a certainty on Thomas Street on the edge of the walkway opposite Holt Place. Been pit and duct work here in recent days and now there's a boxed up spot with ducts sticking out ready to have concrete poured.
nice one zandY, map updated with that location. We now have 24 node locations. There should be one more around flower and rogers street too.
Regarding G.Fast vs VDSL2, to my knowledge G.Fast can only support up to 300m from node locations before the speed deteriorates very quickly and VDSL2 is faster, so if they were looking at doing it we would be seeing a heap more nodes closer together. It's probably a good fit for densely populated areas, but not the burbs.
@Sponks: my understanding is that G.Fast isn't going to be even trialed until 2017 and is only likely to be used in FTTdp situations, rather than FTTN. It'd be nice to have the ability for the extra speed, but I doubt we'll get it.
I guess this is one of the disadvantages of getting the NBN earlier (though not early enough to get FTTP)
13-15 Eagle Drive cabinet has been tagged already. >.< Noted new works outside the corner milk bar on Eagle drive as well.
my understanding is that G.Fast isn't going to be even trialed until 2017 and is only likely to be used in FTTdp situations, rather than FTTN. It'd be nice to have the ability for the extra speed, but I doubt we'll get it.
It can be used in FTTN situations too (indeed AIUI this is what BT is doing in some of its trials), but will only really be effective at distances up to about 300 metres (hence why a FTTdp architecture is optimal).
It will be interesting to see what sorts of line lengths areas like Pakenham have from the node. I'm in Richmond, so lines from the pillar are unlikely to be much longer than 300-400 metres, but in areas like Pakenham we could see a situation where lines up to 300m have an upgrade path and lines over 1000m have an upgrade path (lines over 1000m will probably get FTTdp to ensure 25mbps can be achieved), but people between 300m and 1000m are stuck in a 50mbps purgatory for a long time...
13-15 Eagle Drive cabinet has been tagged already.
A bit more info I remembered about this node that the contractor told me. They installed a pillar in the location that previously wasn't there. Not sure why, but to confirm I just checked google maps street view circa dec. 2014 image and it's not there.
Noted new works outside the corner milk bar on Eagle drive as well.
I saw this yesterday also, not sure what it is but it'd be strange for another node considering how close 49 Eagle Drive is.. They previously had this dug up about 3-4 weeks ago when they were running the green fiber. Anything is possible though! I'll confirm tonight if there's any more movement when I drive past it.
A big swathe of Pakenham appears to be missing from the NBN/myNBN map?
A big swathe of Pakenham appears to be missing from the NBN/myNBN map?
Are you talking about the patch between Toomuc Reserve/Pakenham Library? If so, it's strange because we've got nodes in that area...
Correct. It was there two days ago.
This is what you mean right?
http://i.imgur.com/RszsaE6.png
Hmm.. I sure hope it's a glitch, but I do hate to say there really hasn't been much activity in my area (Heritage Springs) for the last few weeks since they put the node cabling in. They haven't even put the green node boxes on top yet, just left some cables dangling out the ground on top of some concrete.
If one of you guys are going past one of the contractors, maybe you can them if they know what's going on. If it's the same in a few days I might put a request into NBN themselves and see if they can give us an answer.
Near the park at 109 livingstone bvd in heritage springs they have put the green box on the node today and having been extensively working on the existing Telstra box there
nice one snitzel, I spoke too soon :-)
Lavendar Ave also has green box.
Noted new works outside the corner milk bar on Eagle drive as well.
Confirmed it isn't a node. It's a new Telstra branded pit.
So today driving dropping my son to school i see two trucks working on the footpath just before the turn to Duncan drive on Mcgregor road.
One truck was a hole digger and the other had about 6 big square boxes on the back, one was unpacked and it was green.
Heres hoping its a node as i live off Duncan drive.
Hey treva23, yes that node was listed on the map yesterday. If you look at the image of the node location you can see which areas it will be servicing. (the link to the map is next to my name on the left there).
I was speaking to one of the guys doing the green box installs today and showed him some of the images we are using as the service area of a node and he said that yes that should be pretty accurate as representing the node service area.
I got a few more details out of him too and he was only too happy to have a chat about it all (top bloke). Each node can be activated independently so we will likely see a staggered Ready for Service time and the main delay will likely be powering the nodes as they sometimes need to trench under roads and peoples front lawns to get to the power source and this can take months to organise. In areas like Duncan Road and Smethurst Ave, this could be what all the footpath concreting could be to do with.
was speaking to one of the guys doing the green box installs today
Was he from Visionstream?
it is too! you guys are ontop of it!
according to the node location ill be around 700 metres from the node or so,
does anyone know if its the case of the closer you are, you better speeds you will get?
p.s thanks for the work your putting into the details of the roll outs
I guess for best case scenario you could use distance to the node in which case I copy/pasta the below
"The range is 90+ Mbps up to 500m(publicly touted trial results), 50Mbps at 616m (iiNets worst trial result), and 25Mbps at 800-1200m (Adcock at senate select)."
However other factors in play are many and not limited to;
- quality of copper going to your home
- congestion upstream from either the node itself (initially 2gbit/sec to the super node) or from the supernode
Also keep in mind the power level on nodes are turned down during the transition period to reduce crosstalk between dsl services so for the first 18 months it could well be crappy then get better afterwards. Hard to say though.
Are you sure you are 700m away? That seems a long way to still be in the range of the node. I thought they were aiming for 400m max.
hahaha yeh my estimation was way way way off.
i used a google distance checker and from point to point, its about 100 metres.
but thats from point to point in a straight line.
No doubt the line will be longer possibly?
As a best guess you can assume walking distance sticking to roads. My assumption of keeping below 400-500m is probably wrong as if I measure some distances they are closer to that 700m mark in some cases.
Booked 6th June. Planning Aussie 100/40 just have to confirm sync once it gets cut over. In the ballpark of 385m from the node.
Hi, I had a quick look and could not find the answer. I am currently in an estate in Pakenham with FTTH provided by OPENetworks.
Does anyone know what happens when Pakenham get NBN, will I be switched to the NBN with FTTN or can I stay with my FTTH connection?
The plan for NBN was always that they'd provide NBN to customers without high-speed broadband access (assuming ADSL is not considered high-speed). When the NBN was only fibre, there was no plans to build (or provide) NBN to estates that already had FTTH.
However, I'd say it's even more clear cut now given that FTTN is vastly inferior to FTTH, there'd be no reason NBN would bother try service your home with FTTN.
FTTN relies on you having a copper phone line into your house, which if you're on fibre already, you probably don't. So there's almost no way they'll cut off your FTTH and try put you on NBN FTTN. The only way you'll end up on NBN is if OPENetworks sell the fibre to NBNCo, but if that's true, you'll still be on fibre.
Thanks for the quick response. So do you know if I would only be able to use service providers that OPENetworks provides, and would not be able to switch to a Telstra or Optus?
You will be limited to those RSP's of OPENNetworks which can be seen here https://www.openetworks.com.au/get-connected or here https://www.openetworks.com.a
How did you go?
It didn't.
SkyMesh received a rejection of my application from NBN yesterday because they don't have any CVC at my POI, so they can't service me.
Signed up to AussieBroadband instead yesterday, and just received an email saying they will be in touch within 4 weeks due to NBN delays.
Is Pakenham even RFS? Be interesting to see someone on here actually connect to an FTTN service!!
I'll see how I go on Monday.
I'll see how I go on Monday
What node are you on? I'm sure you've probably said it before. I'm on 03-14 and scheduled for Monday.
3BWK-03-16...
Is Pakenham even RFS?
I talked to Telstra yesterday, who told me I would be live in 7-10 days if I signed up. They're RFS, the back end systems are just a mess according to one of the reps in this thread (Phil?)
My mother and I are 3BWK-04 in Pakenham and apparently it is going live this friday (27th). My mother is in charge of choosing/paying for the ISP and she asked if I could post here and gather some opinions on the best ISP's we should choose from?
Are we better to go with the big ISP's like telstra and iinet or something smaller like Aussie broadband? I also assume we need to call someone out to hook us up to the nbn, and that we cant set it up ourselves?
Should we wait a few days after the 27th before ringing up or can we ring now and setup a plan and pre book someone ready to go when our node turns on?
Thank you for any replies we really appreciate it!
Are we better to go with the big ISP's like telstra and iinet or something smaller like Aussie broadband? I also assume we need to call someone out to hook us up to the nbn, and that we cant set it up ourselves?
I would in principal avoid Telstra, they do not have any NBN packages that are close to what many of the other providers offer. It is hard to recommend a provider without knowing your requirements though.
Telstra as a provider are good however their prices are too high IMO.
Optus would probably be ok, especially if you happen to have a mobile phone plan with them to make an eligible bundle, then their prices are reasonable and I am sure there network is decent.
Internode have pretty good plans and prices, same people are saying they are not what they use to be but there are not too many complaints here on whirlpool.
Iinet used to be a decent provider, not sure about them these days.
Work out what you need in terms of data and speed but be realistic as there is no point paying more than you need to.
There are a few other smaller RSP/ISP around who may end up being just what the doctor ordered but time will tell, if you can do yourself a favour and avoid a 24 month contact.
You will be FTTN which means you don't actually need anyone to come out to your house, you just need a modem which you are probably better off getting one from the RSP/ISP you end up choosing.
Should we wait a few days after the 27th before ringing up or can we ring now and setup a plan and pre book someone ready to go when our node turns on?
There is no harm in calling as soon as you have chosen a plan and RSP/ISP.
Thank you very much! This is going to help a lot when we ring up today, im glad we dont need to have someone send out as we can be quite busy.
Hi Guys
Got a call off aussiebroadband today about my nbn and I have signed up.
We got got fibre optic too the node and from that too the house is the same old copper wire she said.
So I guess speeds won't be rocket like, but I can live with that.
Signed up for the $80 pm 1000gb because she said let's start off on the 25mb speed and assess it because it new.
So going to cancel IiNet once up and running(maybe I should of stayed with them?)
Anyways I seen last week someone say about getting a month free if I refer my email?
Can you please enlighten me who that was again?
Thanks
J
We are seeing quite a few of the FTTN services being able to hit the 100/40 speeds so hopefully you are in this category, infact so far there has only been 1 getting less than that once we switch them up.
Can you please enlighten me who that was again?
That was Sponks here -> whrl.pl/ReCQC6
We are seeing quite a few of the FTTN services being able to hit the 100/40 speeds so hopefully you are in this category, infact so far there has only been 1 getting less than that once we switch them up.
What sort of cable lengths are these services on? We're going to be around 400m...is that too far for 100/40?
I have one person asking for a referral.. so if you are an AussieBB existing customer and have an AussieBB or Wideband email address active, let me know via PM and Ill pass it on. First in best dressed.
When the person signing up gets their account active I will pass it on to the next person signing up etc. Free months for everyone!
What sort of cable lengths are these services on? We're going to be around 400m...is that too far for 100/40?
We don't seem to have access to any cable records post transfer now so its difficult to say.
Ransworld, l would be interested in looking at your case. If you'd like to contact me by whim or email I'll take a look.
I got the sms from Aussie today to say my address had gone live, nothing from nbnco directly though even though I signed up. Also the node still doesn't seem to be powered up. 3bwk-04-xx
Our FTTN with AussieBB has just been connected. We're starting on the 25/5 Mbps plan as recommended by AussieBB, and I'm getting around 23/4.8 Mbps on average. My Windows PC is getting some erratic results--dropping down to 12/1 Mbps half-way through the test. I'm sure there's a good explanation for this, but I won't bother AussieBB until the dust has settled.
Just a follow-up on my connection: Phil was able to confirm that my connection is much faster than previously thought. I've been switched over to the 100/40 plan, and the fastest I've achieved is 59/25 Mbps, down to 23/25 during peak hours�although I wouldn't pay too much attention to peak hour congestion until everyone is connected.
I also worked out why my PC was limiting the Internet speed�the Killer Network Manager that came with my motherboard has a function that limits Internet speed. It was automatically set based on the speed of my previous connection. I assume it's there to help manage network data for better online gaming performance or something.
Not a good sign with the peak numbers already down. I've had my speed boosted to 100/40 so I'll see what it's like tonight.
Not a good sign with the peak numbers already down
Depends. If he's 40m from the node, then yep, agreed. If he's 700m from the node then it's probably ok.
Hey all,
I finally got connected today with NBN thought Telstra. Just got an question please? which is the better model to use? T-Gate way or the T- Gate Max
Was connected today on 3BWK-03
Seem to be getting decent stats on the modem at a minimum of 550m from the node & 250m from the connecting pillar.
Data Rate
27999 kbps
6399 kbps
MAX Rate
71548 kbps
26390 kbps
I finally got connected today with NBN thought Telstra. Just got an question please? which is the better model to use? T-Gate way or the T- Gate Max
T-Gateway Max � it supports Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac & has 4x Gigabit Ethernet ports
04 is ready for service as of today on finder.com.au thought id give a heads up as ive been checking the past few days.
04 is ready for service as of today on finder.com.au thought id give a heads up as ive been checking the past few days.
I had a walk around and the nodes are now powered up too.
Not that thrilled with Aussie. I received a text
Your aussieBB nbn appt is booked for tue 31 may between 8 and 12, please ensure someone will be home
So nan stayed home, to look after it. Nobody showed. Then at 2:30 everything was turned off no home phone and no nbn and no notification. I then got confirmation that aussie had misplaced my porting form so I won't have VOIP until friday.
What's worse is a I got a text from the gf
You have no internet lol
Me:
Well it isn't me who has an assignment due tomorrow :)
Now I won't be getting sex or a working homephone for days! AUSSIE!!!!!!!!
If you would like to contact me via whim or email l can see what options are available for sorting the internet problems. Can't help with the other problem though :p
So nan stayed home, to look after it. Nobody showed. Then at 2:30 everything was turned off no home phone and no nbn and no notification. I then got confirmation that aussie had misplaced my porting form so I won't have VOIP until friday.
Damn that sucks.
I got mine connected about 11:30ish with Aussiebb.
Was pretty bad at the start but stablised at around 12:30 only issue now is my pc has horrible speeds on wireless and ethernet . (Rest of my devices are fine)
Damn that sucks.
It wasn't fun! But now I have my net going, my max speed is 70/40. I just opted for the 50/20 plan, which makes me a very happy camper!
thats awesome. any idea how far you are from the node?
thats awesome. any idea how far you are from the node?
Using my speedo, roughly 300m.
What is the benefit of having nbn over adsl2. I can't seem to see any benefit of having it? The speed seem the same to me?
Maybe your question is better suited in one of the many other nbn threads as this one is Pakenham specific. A number of people in Pakenham have had no fixed like internet due to lack of ports, or stuck on extremely poor speeds due to design and capacity. Nbn should help a very large number of us get something where nothing but mobile waa available previously
In theory nbn FTTN can run much faster then adsl but there are a lot of things they can prevent those speeds t the internet
I signed up with Telstra last night (I signed up weeks ago at the shipping centre at pakenham but the guy didn't submit the manual paper work :( ). Any way I'm in heritage and pretty close to the node
Have to wAit Tw0 weeks for intsall
My previous adsl2 stats where 24000, so it should be interesting to see the new stats, I'm prob about 50 or so meters from the node,
I've signed up to the 50 plan
What is the benefit of having nbn over adsl2. I can't seem to see any benefit of having it? The speed seem the same to me?
You were likely close to the exchange getting good adsl speeds, so one of the lower speed NBN plans wouldn't make much if any difference to you.
As for me I'm a good few K's from the exchange and best effort adsl is only 5.5mbit, I'm close to my node so looking forward to my 25/5 plan! :)
What's wrong with the telstra router? I know they're not the best but it should do the job. Here's a list of fttn compatible routers
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki
If the wifi on it is spotty maybe consider keeping it but adding a dedicated wap like the unifi ac lite
My order for nvn has gone through. Although i have to be out of this rental only a couple weeks after my install date lol
I"m pleased to report no significant drop in speeds during peak hour. Just tested at 23.8/4.8.
(AussieBB, right next to a node).
I'm hoping that's my experience too, just signed across yesterday (activation on the 15th, anniversary/rollover date) and am now getting a little nervous reading all the horror stories!
I'm literally across the road from 3BWK-01-21. I asked a few of the techs that were working on it whether the line ran down the road first or across to my side too, they seemed to think across and down both sides. Knowing my luck it will be a loop and we're on the end of it lol.
The node/pillar is yet to come up on NBN's site as being live and it's not on the list of nodes posted either.
The wifi range on the Telstra route is shit. That's why... Never get full range in my house.
I asked a few of the techs that were working on it whether the line ran down the road first or across to my side too, they seemed to think across and down both sides. Knowing my luck it will be a loop and we're on the end of it lol.
You can always submit a dial before you dig application that will show the cable path near your home.
The wifi range on the Telstra route is shit. That's why... Never get full range in my house.
Buying a far superior dedicated wireless access point (or multiple units for superior coverage) is always a much better choice than replacing a modem/router/wifiAP combo unit.
Well if your going to be a Telstra customer you will at least want something good to come of it.
We are definitely not prioritised! Three and half week lead time for me on 3BWK-04-09 and apparently require 2 technicians, one nbnco and one Telstra. I am migrating from 3.1/0.5Mbps ADSL2 and guesstimated around 675-720m from node, really apprehensive about the migration at this point.
You can always submit a dial before you dig application that will show the cable path near your home
Ah very good thanks! Had read about that service but someone mentioned charges, it was in fact free and very easy to use.
So it looks like our distance to the node shouldn't be a problem! http://s33.postimg.org/8gb8lpw6n/nbn.jpg
I notice the brown boxes, the one circled in red is the only pillar (I've noticed people calling them that, hope it's the right terminology) I've seen around our street so assume the others are just junction points and the pillar services the whole estate. Spec's I'd read somewhere it's servicing 300 premises.
So there's conflicting stories in regards to issues/congestion. Seems to be dependant on the amount of bandwidth (CVC) the ISP purchases?
I've also read that there's only around 2.6Mbps allocated for each premises connected to the node. So you can buy a 100/40 plan but if uptake is high and usage is high you're never going to see anything close to that speed with it most likely grinding to a halt.
*shudders* Reminds me of the years we were paying for ADSL but would have been better off with a 56k dialup service. The endless finger pointing and pointless testing only to find out the exchange was congested.
Hi,
I have a new node location, 3BWK-01-13, which is located at 4 Pommel st.
Thanks, Pakenman
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lol @ graffiti already. How un-surprising.
I'm having some strange DNS issues on my AussieBB connection. Sometimes with the default or even 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 I am finding resolves can take up to 30 seconds, which at that point times out the page in my browser.
Anybody else?
Are you setting the DNS in the modem or on your pc directly ? If its in the modem is the PC using the modem address or the DNS server you set directly ? Seems odd to have DNS take so long to timeout like that should only be 10 seconds max, have you tried nslookup from a command prompt or are you just seeing timeouts in a browser ?
Slightly off topic but if your now on aussie FTTN you should update your whirlpool profile it still says your on BigPond :) Click your profile in the top right corner
Recently just signed with TPG for the 100/40 FTTN plan, live in Henty Park estate. Activation date is 9/6/16, will post speed test results.
I'm about 280-300m from the node (measured using Google maps) assuming the copper runs with the street. Has anyone in Pakenham been connected yet?
Has anyone in Pakenham been connected yet?
plenty, it was a little slow to start off with but if you go back a few of pages you will see many are connected now.
Signed up with AussieBB, appointment is today before 12am. Hopefully the NBN contractor shows up soon.
Are you setting the DNS in the modem or on your pc directly ? If its in the modem is the PC using the modem address or the DNS server you set directly ? Seems odd to have DNS take so long to timeout like that should only be 10 seconds max, have you tried nslookup from a command prompt or are you just seeing timeouts in a browser ?
Its all via DHCP, and I the only thing I have tested is opening up a terminal and pinging yahoo (who goes to yahoo) and resolve finished in about 30-40s. This was late last night mind you so I will actually put some effort into checking it out s'arvo.
And thanks for the reminder about the ISP. How do I submit changes though? I am on the 500gb a month plan but the only option for NBN is 200gb.
Its all via DHCP, and I the only thing I have tested is opening up a terminal and pinging yahoo (who goes to yahoo) and resolve finished in about 30-40s.
Rather than ping try nslookup yahoo.com or the equivalent from whatever OS your using. This will query for name resolution rather than just ping.
Hopefully the NBN contractor shows up soon.
Being FTTN there's every chance nobody will show up and if they do they might only goto the telstra box outside and test some stuff without even knocking on your door. The bulk of the work is done up the road at the node and pillar
there's every chance nobody will show up
Hmmm? Should I try plugging in my modem into the wall then?
However, AussieBB was adamant someone was home during the appointment time for reasons.
However, AussieBB was adamant someone was home during the appointment time for reasons.
I was told during the registration process that TPG would let me know if I needed to be present or not on the day of activation. Ended up being told I didn't need to be.
If they wanted someone there maybe there is something else they need to do in your case. Otherwise yeah, give it a try. Not sure if its the same for everyone but me and someone I know were told it would be between 8am � 12pm.
Thanks Aderm, I'll give them a ring to see what's up.
They hook up some equipment to the telstra box
A run-down on the process as you asked for earlier in the thread:
- He corresponded with someone over the phone on the other side as well while doing what you described when he was working on the Telstra Box outside the house.
- Then he pulled out a battery powered vdsl modem to check if the dsl link was up.
- Once that was done, he came into the house to check that the socket within the house was working as well (this part took a good 10 minutes for the DSL light to first link up completely, it was blinking for quite some time)
- DSL light becomes solid, he unplugs; I plugged in my preconfigured modem-router(DSL-AC68U as per https://whrl.pl/ReBQR0) and it synced up.
Downstream
SNR
8.4 dB
Line Attenuation
14.7 dB
Data Rate
44840 kbps
MAX Rate
61124 kbps
POWER
13.8 dbm
CRC
2784
Upstream
SNR
16.4 dB
Line Attenuation
3.0 dB
Data Rate
22599 kbps
MAX Rate
37355 kbps
POWER
8.1 dbm
INP
2.3 symbols
CRC
0
Speedtest DOWN/UP
41.09 Mbps / 19.11 Mbps
OK so your process might have been slightly different I think I read you'd never had adsl before and probably no active phone line? That probably involves more work to get everything connected.
Sadly I've got no connection now. My existing adsl went off line at 8am and then nothing ever came back. Have no sync at all. Have to wait till Thursday for a tech to visit and troubleshoot. Uggghh.
I had that too with Telstra. I had no service for 2 weeks. An when they connected me back they put me back on asdl2.. An still waiting for them to stitch me over to NBN..
^ Oh my hoping I have a smooth experience!!! Just read the disclaimer sent out from ABB regarding the disconnection of services on the date of change over and the possibility of this still happening in the event NBN doesn't turn up on that date.
How far are you from the node Kylen?
Also wondering why the info for our nodes shows their location as Upper Beacy? I assumed BWK would be Berwick, but we're miles from both and have far more residents than Upper Beaconsfield does, possibly Berwick too.
I am about 500 m (along the streets) from the Node with the pillar another 3 m away further.
Please educate me, whats the difference between the pillar and the node? I assumed they were one and the same. :\
I am about 500 m (along the streets) from the Node with the pillar another 3 m away further.
What plan are you on?
Please educate me, whats the difference between the pillar and the node? I assumed they were one and the same. :\
Node:
http://blog.jxeeno.com
Pillar: https://upload.wikimedia.org/
The node is where the fibre connection ends, from there it is copper connecting from the node to the pillar, then copper again to your house.
The pillar is what currently connects you to the exchange providing you with adsl/adsl2 .
Oh my hoping I have a smooth experience!!! Just read the disclaimer sent out from ABB regarding the disconnection of services on the date of change over and the possibility of this still happening in the event NBN doesn't turn up on that date.
This is why the best option is to request the VDSL2 service to be installed on a spare copper pair so that your existing ADSL service is untouched and continues operating until you decide to switch over.
OK so my connection didn't go so crash hot to the point I'm posting this tethering to my phone.
Got home, set up my ASUS DSL-AC68U with the recommended settings that are confirmed working here, plugged in the phone line and got sync, great! Check sync on modem page � 50/20 sync on a 100/40 plan, thought eh, line quality thats ok except for I know from cabling records from Telstra when we built our house we are ~250m from our node.
Performed a speed test and was lucky to get 13mbps download and 0.8 mbps upload (yes, 0.9mbps) which was no better than my ADSL connection. Rebooted the modem, lost sync and it never came back.
Fault logged with RSP, waiting for a fix :(
This is why the best option is to request the VDSL2 service to be installed on a spare copper pair so that your existing ADSL service is untouched
Whilst this is an good option for those that need guaranteed connectivity (like a business), it can be an expensive one as nbn charges a new line installation for FTTN of $299 where there is already an active service to the premises.
^ Beat me to it. I'd rather not pay $299 for a new line :) for that price I can get away with buying a lot of mobile data.
it can be an expensive one as nbn charges a new line installation for FTTN of $299 where there is already an active service to the premises.
That is a new development fee. Using a 2nd copper pair is NOT a new subdivision where no copper lead in exists.
I am on AusBB's 50/20
That is a new development fee. Using a 2nd copper pair is NOT a new subdivision where no copper lead in exists.
Sorry but that's incorrect. The new development charge is seperate. If a 2nd copper pair is enabled where an existing pair is already active either with nbn or telstra (or wholesale customers), a new line fee is applicable.
So if I have copper to my home but neither pairs are currently active which do I choose with sign up? New pair or existing line? It seems I would have to choose new pair because I don't have a phone number to enter with existing line but surely I wouldn't have to pay an extra fee for this...?
If you don't currently have an active line into the property then there is no fee. Its only if you have an active service and want the second pair activated that the charge applies.
NBN absorbs the cost of the first pair either active or inactive. Additional pairs it charges for.
The new development charge is a whole different thing and only applies to new estates.
If you don't currently have an active line into the property then there is no fee. Its only if you have an active service and want the second pair activated that the charge applies.
But what happens if you have multiple pairs already active? Who declares which one is the "first" pair with these bizarre rules? It all seems like extortion to a reasonable person. Especially since FTTP areas don't need to pay it whilst still keeping their copper services active during the transition period. The first NBN FTTN connection to a property should be free regardless of which pair is used. I would love to see clear written notification from NBN of when charges apply otherwise AussieBB and other RSP's are opening themselves up for litigation and costly TIO complaints if they start charging customers for installation fees that shouldn't apply.
NBN absorbs the cost of the first pair either active or inactive. Additional pairs it charges for.
But they ARE installing ONE active NBN pair to the premises. It shouldn't matter what the other pairs are being used for during the transition period as those other services have nothing to do with NBN. I think someone is getting confused with what colour of twisted pair is used and labelling them as the 1st, 2nd, 3rd pair etc, as opposed to which are declared as NBN active pairs 1, 2, 3, etc.
It shouldn't matter if the first NBN service pair uses the blue, orange, brown, green pair. If it is the first NBN pair for that premises then there shouldn't be a charge for it.
Otherwise the $299 fee essentially turns into a "getting away from Telstra" tax if you want to keep the old PSTN number active long enough to port it out since porting only works while the number is active. Plus the $299 fee is an extortionate way of charging for anti-service-disruption insurance preventing the loss of downtime if a NBN or the technician screws up the order and/or installation.
Phil, I strongly recommend you get this clarified and written in stone with NBN and get all your sales staff to carefully understand when charges apply or things will get ugly.
This discussion is probably better suited to one of the many other NBN FTTN threads and is starting to get off topic and out of hand for this thred :/
Maybe here /forum-replies.cfm?t=2479910
This discussion is probably better suited to one of the many other NBN FTTN threads and is starting to get off topic and out of hand for this thred :/
It's not off-topic as my questions are specific to my circumstances of having 70+ active existing pairs going to the MDF in a Pakenham building.
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