More than half of that area is a cemetery.
Dang, I live in North Willoughby. They should release a reschedule, street by street and a little widget that you can just type your address into and get a general idea of when you will get it, that's what annoys me, not knowing.
-Jack
I did, no mention. I mean like 9.5 years, I know that it is a big project, but I would of thought Sydney would of been the first to get the NBN due to the large amount of houses and businesses.
I did, no mention.
In addition to quarterly updates we will also be releasing a three-year construction plan in the 1st Quarter 2012.
Which is coming out in Feb.
but I would of thought Sydney would of been the first to get the NBN due to the large amount of houses and businesses.
Noticing that there is nothing on the plan for out west, or anything further south than Wollongong, and nothing between Long Jetty and Coffs Harbour... no NBN in my lifetime, I'm afraid. Its going to take years and years for the entire country to be covered in any meaninful way and in the meantime some new tech will have come along. A bit like cable that we all hung out for and didnt get, in regional centres, because ADSL was easier...
Think I'll just hang out for decent data allowances on 3G at decent price point.
Any idea on areas such as Sydney CBD or the Rockdale areas? (NSW)
Noticing that there is nothing on the plan for out west, or anything further south than Wollongong, and nothing between Long Jetty and Coffs Harbour...
That's the current 12 month plan.
A 3 year plan is coming out in Feb.
Any idea on areas such as Sydney CBD or the Rockdale areas? (NSW)
No, see above.
Hi All,
First time posting on these forums long time reader.
Regarding the NBN for the richmond / riverstone / windsor area..i am currently looking at moving to a property in oakville but i wanted to do my research before relocating as i currently work in the IT industry my work requires me to log in remotely from time to time and i require a stable internet connection.
I currently live in Quakers Hill and am on a telstra budle adsl2, tbox, phone...i have been a telstra customer for quite some time and i have been generally happy with the service.
So i contacted telstra regarding an adsl connection at oakville, now the house is located approx 16kms from norwest (where i work) and 10kms from windsor the nearest exchange to the property is riverstone. I was advised that unfortunately the house is located too far from either the riverstone exchange (6kms) or the pittown exchange and well the windsor exchange is 10kms away. Telstra advised me that they dont connect adsl if the property is over 4.5kms from the exchange but apparently other isp vendors do.
Naturally i was slightly frustrated so i started contacting residents in the oakville area to see what is available in regards to an internet connection. The locals in the area all seem to be connecting via a wireless 3g card connected to a laptop or desktop and these users seem quite happy with their connection.
During these calls i spoke to a gentleman who had word that the NBN would be connected in the oakville area in the next few months.
I checked the rollout maps and can see that the network is being laid out near pittown road which is somewhat close to the property im looking at. Im just curious to know if the houses in oakville will receive a direct fibre connection or will be connected via wireless.
I still cant believe that this property is only 10mins from rouse hill and yet there's no copper internet connection available.
If anybody has word on the NBN for the oakville area im all ears.
Im just curious to know if the houses in oakville will receive a direct fibre connection or will be connected via wireless.
I think FTTH.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
I think FTTH.
Very good i hope that is the case...i did contact NBN co last week and the lady i spoke to just directed me to the rollout maps on the website and advised me to check these every month or so as the network layout is likely to change. Might have to go for a drive up to pittown road and see if i can find any work in progress.
check these every month or so as the network layout is likely to change.
They update every quarter and a 3 year plan is coming out in Feb.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
I think there are new developments in Macquarie Park happening at the moment, (lots and lots of units) what are the chances of them having fibre straight away? The NBN doesn't appear to have any plans for our area but I still wonder if they'd install copper at this point in time.
Surprised to see Lidcombe on the list so soon. I thought the rollout was mainly for regional areas with poor copper options but I have friends living there with excellent adsl2 speeds. Does this mean other suburbs in Sydney closer to the CBD may be next or could that still be 10 years away?
I was getting lunch near my home in Rathmines 2283. Also getting lunch was a heap of cabling guys and I saw a couple of Telstra service vehicles about so I got a little excited. I asked one of the supervisors if they were laying fibre. He said no but they will be in October this year.
I think he may be pulling my....
Though Greg Combet said in 2010 Lake Macquarie would be among the first and he wouldn't lie.
I kinda wish that the schedule had been released in full. If my suburb isn't getting NBN until the very end of the rollout, so be it. I won't like it, but at least I won't go on hoping like this.
Its the uncertainty that kills me.
I kinda wish that the schedule had been released in full. If my suburb isn't getting NBN until the very end of the rollout, so be it.
If it helps I can tell you with certainty that NBN doesn't have the schedule or plans for all of Australia to withhold. It is still being designed, with the learnings of the previous stages informing the next stages.
I agree that this sucks, but it is the correct way to approach the build imho.
Could someone please explain to my why a retirement village in my suburb has connection to the NBN but the rest of the suburb doesn't even have a date to when the rollout will happen?
Thanks
Work commences 2015
Estimated completion 2016
That's just far too long to wait. Sigh...might need to move, but I hate moving.
Could someone please explain to my why a retirement village in my suburb has connection to the NBN but the rest of the suburb doesn't even have a date to when the rollout will happen?
Probably because the retirement village has just been built. The policy is to *immediately* cable NBN direct to any new development with 100 or more residences (to save the double installation costs of putting copper cables in only to replace them with fibre a few years later).
They will install some temporary infrastructure to run that small development, and then assimilate it into the main NBN installation when the main rollout gets to that area.
Note that there have been issues with getting NBN to some of these new developments. You may have noticed in the media that due to delays getting cabled to the NBN that some of them haven't got access to any fixed line service at all.
Does anyone know when NBN is being rolled out in the Lyndarum estate in Epping, VIC?
I am getting conflicting information from various sources (including NBN, iiNet, Telstra etc.)
I am stuck. Having moved into a new house don't know if I should get a Telstra copper phone line first or just wait till NBN rolls out.
Any ideas?
I'm having issues trying to read the rollout map, mainly because it intersects thru my suburb, but when I drill down, the hotmap disappears.
Can anyone confirm Laurie Pl, McKellar ACT and timeframe?
On another note, since your doing everywhere else around it � do the right thing and do McKellar; its 5km line throws all around here with subsequently crap ADSL connections, not to mention half of us are shielded from surrounding towers making wireless pointless... (this is the rant of hope, no need to comment :) )
Can anyone confirm Laurie Pl, McKellar ACT and timeframe?
Mckellar ACT 2617
This is the NBN rollout activity in your area.
Fibre | Work to commence within three years � we will commence work in your area from Dec 2013 in phases with last work scheduled to commence in Sep 2014*.
Anyone know when the new high speed NBN will be available in inner city brisbane? getting so sick of my slow connection, I'm near an inner city exchange so i thought it should happen soon...
thanks
James Wells-Wilson
Anyone know when the new high speed NBN will be available in inner city brisbane? getting so sick of my slow connection, I'm near an inner city exchange so i thought it should happen soon...
What does the rollout map tell you?
My surburb (Annerley, Brisbane) is listed on NBNco as work starting Dec 2012. My address is just on the edge of the green zone.
Yesterday two large demountable units were dumped outside on the street, and another round the corner. They look like storage units on wheels.
Down the footpath of my adjoining street are various markings, including a regular one every 2 metres or so, stating a number (from 40-55 or thereabouts).
Would this be NBN work starting? I intend to ask someone, as soon as I actually see somebody around, but wondered if I might be lucky and be in an area that might get the NBN sooner.
What signs would one expect to see? Or is this probably just the council doing some other work?
Same thing happening in my street mate. Random numbers appearing up and down about a metre from the gutter.
Guessing its NBN work as work was supposed to commence September 2012. Roll on!
Well. I live in Kiama Heights and work was meant to have started Aug 2011. I still haven't heard anything yet though.
Lol, typical.
Does any one know anything about NBN rollout in Pullenvale (Brisbane suburb)?
Does any one know anything about NBN rollout in Pullenvale (Brisbane suburb)?
Have you tried searching the rollout map?
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Yeah I live in Kiama, and drive through the streets everyday but have seen absolutely no sign of any NBN activity. We should be connected by now going by their 12 month completion time frame.
Well. I live in Kiama Heights and work was meant to have started Aug 2011. I still haven't heard anything yet though.
What? Pullenvale? It's there.
Well, yes it's there. Just nothing's happening! *sigh*
Hopefully this area will be connected before 14.09.2013, just in case the Coalition make it all go bad.
Well, that'll be Telstra coming through to do remediation of the pits/ducts. So that means construction start is between 3 and 6 months away.
It's likely your area will at least be started, which likely means it'll be finished if the Coalition do get in. Of course, that's not a guarantee...
It's interesting the premise of this thread being when will the NBN come to my town, however things have changed.
It's beginning to look like the Libs are going to take power at the election and stop the roll-out in it's tracks.
So the answer to the title of this thread- "When will the NBN come to my town?" is virtually unless you are in the current 3 year roll out plan, you will not receive the NBN as currently planned, not much is know of the alternative plan.
And even the 3 year plan may be halted before that's complete for all we know.
This whole project has a giant ? above it now.
thats whats worrying me ,
And even the 3 year plan may be halted before that's complete for all we know.
Actually, it almost certainly WILL be halted. Not even those in areas with construction to begin within 12 months are guaranteed.
Actually, it almost certainly WILL be halted. Not even those in areas with construction to begin within 12 months are guaranteed.
I'm still confident that a Cost-Benefit Analysis from the LNP will lead to the NBN continuing in its current form. You could rig a CBA almost any way you like and you'd still manage to find that the NBN would remain as is.
Can the LNP renegotiate with Telstra? Answer; No. With the current arrangement, theres no physical way Telstra would renegotiate off the terms they have now. They're so good that there is almost no possible carrot the LNP could offer for them to change. Outside of giving them the complete network � which no senate (which is guaranteed to be hostile to an LNP outfit) and then having the ACCC allow it (which theres no way it would; they cant get along with Telstra as it is) it's a no go zone.
While I agree we're looking at one of our greatest projects as a nation eliminated by a single conservative government; I dont think its totally a fore-gone conclusion.
You could rig a CBA almost any way you like and you'd still manage to find that the NBN would remain as is.
I disagree. A CBA done over a timeframe of only 15 years would show FTTN as a prospect much more advantageous due to low CAPEX.
They're so good that there is almost no possible carrot the LNP could offer for them to change.
The same money, or even slightly more, but faster? Telstra don't get alot of the payment for over 8 years. And the infrastructure payments over 35. What if the LNP offered it over 20? And total migration to FTTN within 5?
I disagree. A CBA done over a timeframe of only 15 years would show FTTN as a prospect much more advantageous due to low CAPEX.
What if the time frame was 15 years and the CAPEX was lower, would it bring about the same potential advantages? A CBA is going to take these things into account. It needs to show relevant advantages versus the capital expenditure. If you did shorten the timeframe for rollout / repayment to 15 years over 20 you may have a better return on capex, but you wouldnt have the same potential margins for ISP / RSPs and you wouldnt have the same level of speed / capacity scalability.
You'd still have to factor in costs for cancellation of existing agreements, costs of upgrading the network down the track (although a rigged CBA wouldnt include this deliberately) and then things like Power from switching between FTTN and GPON.
I think you'd still find it would either be excruciatingly close or FTTH would come out on top, regardless of capex. Even THEN you'd have to sell it to ACCC and the senate.
What if the time frame was 15 years and the CAPEX was lower, would it bring about the same potential advantages?
Of course not.
A CBA is going to take these things into account.
No, it's going to try and ESTIMATE these things. The Productivity Commission cannot predict the future.
but you wouldnt have the same potential margins for ISP / RSPs
Irrelevant if the CBA's terms were fixed for "costs and associated benefits for the government and taxpayers."
and you wouldnt have the same level of speed / capacity scalability.
All these things are perfectly sensible Master_T. But you're missing the point:
"Never hold an enquiry unless you know what its' outcomes will be"- Humphrey Appleby- Yes Prime Minister.
You'd still have to factor in costs for cancellation of existing agreements
Why? Why do they HAVE to?
costs of upgrading the network down the track (although a rigged CBA wouldnt include this deliberately)
Now we're getting there :)
and then things like Power from switching between FTTN and GPON.
Actually, the monetary savings from power are only tens of millions a year. The more pressing concern is the saving of a WHOPPING ~200MW a year using GPON. That's a medium sized coal power station....imagine the extra load in summer that would put the networks under....
I think you'd still find it would either be excruciatingly close or FTTH would come out on top, regardless of capex. Even THEN you'd have to sell it to ACCC and the senate.
IF all those things are included in the terms of reference, yes.....but we have no guarantee or reasonable hope that they will be. Why? Well....because why on EARTH would the Coalition do a CBA when there was a chance it wouldn't vindicate them? They're conservative....it's a waste of money otherwise.
"Never hold an enquiry unless you know what its' outcomes will be"- Humphrey Appleby- Yes Prime Minister.
Do you yourself believe that a CBA will show FTTN to be cheaper / better in the short term over FTTH if no NBNCo construction had ever been started? I'm still all for FTTH, but our conservative friends dont agree. :)
Do you yourself believe that a CBA will show FTTN to be cheaper / better in the short term over FTTH if no NBNCo construction had ever been started?
In the short term? Yes. I do. Because a CBA cannot predict the inherently unpredictable. But that doesn't make it right or correct. I'm fully behind FTTH because of the possibilities it opens and the reliability and ubiquity it brings.
I find it interesting however the NZ version of a CBA on their UFB network has sown an increase in GDP over 20 (?) years that would PAY for our NBN....no peep from our conservative friends though :)
I find it interesting however the NZ version of a CBA on their UFB network has sown an increase in GDP over 20 (?) years that would PAY for our NBN....no peep from our conservative friends though :)
Thats what gives me the impressions that a (lets say non-rigged) CBA would find FTTH to be the superior option. Given the chances of such a thing happening are small;
:S
Really annoyed with NBNCo.
Their rollout map showed our house was in the area due to start installing recently, then when the due date came, they revised the map and the rollout now stops halfway up my road. Same suburb, they just cut the last dozen homes out of the current rollout.
So I send a polite message asking why this has happened and is there anyone I can speak to about the technical reasons for us now being excluded.
NBNCo sends me a reply after about a week which was just a stock email about how everyone will be included sometime in the next few years and other propoganda.
I send another email asking for my original questions to be answered.
NBNCo never replies.
My gut feel is that we will be offered satellite in a few years while our neighbours will have fibre in a few months.
Not happy....
My gut feel is that we will be offered satellite in a few years while our neighbours will have fibre in a few months.
That is straight out assumption. There are a dozen reasons they could have cut the street in half including exchange area and space.
How far along the road are the houses you are talking about?
That is straight out assumption. There are a dozen reasons they could have cut the street in half including exchange area and space.
How far along the road are the houses you are talking about?
Yes obviously it is an assumption. Was that not clear? Pretty sure I didn't state it as fact ("My gut feel..."). Are assumptions frowned upon in this thread?
The point is that I am struggling to get an answer from NBNCo when I asked what the technical reason(s) are. Did you even read my post?
In answer to your question, the road is 1.6km long ending in a dead end, and they have stopped the rollout with approx. 400m excluded.
So yeah, very annoyed with NBNCo.
In answer to your question, the road is 1.6km long ending in a dead end, and they have stopped the rollout with approx. 400m excluded.
Its' feasible that you are further than the maximum distance to the FAN allowable (no more than 14km). And the 12 (guessing the number here, correct me if I'm wrong) houses not included are not enough to make another whole FAN viable. That's a guess.
Give Scott Rhodie a Whim. He's Head of NBNCo. Digital Communications and deals with individual issues like this one-on-one quite well from people's replies.
Their rollout map showed our house was in the area due to start installing recently, then when the due date came, they revised the map and the rollout now stops halfway up my road. Same suburb, they just cut the last dozen homes out of the current rollout.
you may be surprised, my mother was not included in a current rollout map but she was a street away from it, her home was not due for two years. Next thing we know someone is knocking on her door to speak to her about it and she is in the current rollout..
I would be able to consider the Coalition's 'mixed technology' (mostly wireless) plan IF I was able to use my mobile phone at my house. But then maybe what's to stop me taking my computer etc to a spot in the back garden when I want to use it?
I just realised I didn't think it through. My wireless modem/router (and my landline telephone base) can't really be moved around.
Its' feasible that you are further than the maximum distance to the FAN allowable (no more than 14km). And the 12 (guessing the number here, correct me if I'm wrong) houses not included are not enough to make another whole FAN viable. That's a guess.
Give Scott Rhodie a Whim. He's Head of NBNCo. Digital Communications and deals with individual issues like this one-on-one quite well from people's replies.
Thanks for the reply. We are certainly within the distance, more like 7km drive and around 5km as the crow flies.
I will definitely try Scott. If I get any further I will let you know how I go. Otherwise we will be on ADSL1 for a lot longer than I thought. No big deal as it is pretty much maxed out on speed. If it wasn't for the RIM we are on we would have more speed for less money on ADSL2. NBN would be nice though...
Cheers.
lol my suburb isnt even on the NBN rollout list at all, first we are stuck with shitty adsl1 speeds cause the closest exchange is like 5km away and now even if we wait 3 years its still not going to get any better. Fail.
I've been seeing workers all over the place so i know its soon
a lot of the work you're seeing is the initial remediation work by telstra (through their subcontractors) to bring the pits/pipes up to the standard for NBNCo to use, doesn't mean that fibre is going in any time soon.
depending on where in summerhill it may still be quite a while.
most is covered in 7SHL-04, not due until late next year:
http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/7SHL-04
top edge of summerhill is covered (just) in 7SHL-01, which is due by end of year:
http://mynbn.jxeeno.com/fsam/7SHL-01
for a high-level overview of the areas:
http://www.nbnco.com.a
Oh man, so painful to see construction starting in my area as of June 2013, just want to see my area become highlighted in orange or purple :(
Area: Glen Alpine
harrington park..... Service unavailable :(
Waroona
Fibre | Construction to commence within one year � we will commence construction from Apr 2013*.
yeah right!! this map is useless if its not to be updated....now June 2013 and still not started!
Anyone know when the lower part of mill park is due to come online? I'm located on the southern side of child's road? We've had guys running about doing pit replacements and I got a letter from Telstra in the mail saying mill park is online but the map still doesn't have us online yet.
You go through your RSP.
The NTD will be installed after you order a service from your RSP.
Thanks Remode.
We've had guys running about doing pit replacements
Fingers crossed they're checking for asbestos properly.
most is covered in 7SHL-04, not due until late next year:
I'm betting I am in that area damnit.....
anyone know when asterly pde side of north lakes QLD will be become active ???
Planning has been approved for the NBN wireless tower in my area (Lake clifton, old bunbury road towers, Waroona town shire) on the 26th March.
Can anyone tell me the planning > build > active time for NBN wireless towers?
Hi
Looking at the NBN rollout map my area is covered for Fibre � Aspley Q4034, they have put in the FTTN box and the fibre on all the streets, however there is no shiny green NBN cable in my Telstra comms box. Who do I question this with? NBNCo? The subcontractor? Potential NBN provider? Or do I just wait?
Cheers
Rick
Fibre from the street to your PCD is black. NBN dont connect to a Telstra box.
Call your provider of choice and order a NBN service to get the ball rolling.
problem is my 'provider' of choice is TPG.
quote...
me:
Can you please confirm if you will offer the NBN in Aspley Q4034 in the near future. I want to know so I can stay with you or change to another provider.
tpg:
TPG has already signed a wholesale agreement with NBN. We are currently doing internal testing and waiting for NBN to begin rollout in major towns.
For the time being, you can keep using your current TPG Broadband service as the copper cabling will remain operational for 18 months after NBN installation in your area is completed.
Please be assured that we will let you know when we have released our NBN plans and declared the areas where we will offer NBN service.
Could anyone help checking when will the NBN be available at Croydon Victoria?
The sad thing is I am far away from the exchange, and no cable on my street either!
Im confused on the progress of my area. Up until last month contractors were laying new trenches into our estate and connected the trenches to the big main telstra pit at the entrance of the estate. Then worked on the first 3 service pits into the estate. Now the work has halted with temporary fences around the pits. (Note no asbestos. estate only 20 yr old)
The "when do we get it" says construction hasnt started. But a manual search of the area finds the orange C.
On the rollout plan April 2013 to June 2016, we dont even get a mention.
On the myNBN site it says construction started exp complete Oct 2013.
We are a few streets away from Ridecrest Drive where the orange C is.
When do we get it.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/w
myNBN
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-EGE80
I just want to find a coverage map to see if our street is included.
Just checked my area again and we've been pushed back another year here in Caboolture till May 2014, used to be June 2013. :(
Does anyone have an idea of when the next 1 year forward looking rollout plan is going to be released? Once again they seem to have skipped a month and it looks like a significant number of FSAs have not had timelines/maps updated
I just looked at mine again ,for Bomaderry (Nowra) and I'm just out side of the 2013 map rollout.. bummer..
Fibre | Construction to commence within three years � we will commence construction in your area from Sep 2015 in phases with last construction scheduled to commence in Mar 2017*.
Well thats a giant kick in the backside. There are areas within my region that already have service and we are meant to wait until 2017 to get this service. What a jip
Yesterday I received a flyer in my letterbox from NBN and Transfield stating that construction work is due to commence in the next couple of weeks. I'm on the 3CTN-01 FSAM.
I would guess that everything that has already been planned ie. the one and three year rollouts are still going ahead but nothing new ie. new suburbs will be announced until the results for the election are in and the then current government announces any changes.
Hopefully the 3 year rollout plan is also protected regardless of the LNP most likely returning to government! My suburb was just listed 2 months ago :)
Sorry if this has been answered already. When searching my suburb (Dee Why NSW) on the rollout map it's listed as the orange 'C' but there is no shading in the area at all. Clicking the pin tells me construction hasn't commenced, but then on the left it says "New Development Fibre | Construction Commenced". The actual "C" pin is located at the site of a new block of units being built. I presume all this means that this new block of units will have NBN when it's finished but the rest of the area hasn't started construction yet? If one block can access the NBN it can't be too long before the rest of the area I presume?
That would be considered "Greenfields" and is a separate rollout to the rest of the suburb.
If one block can access the NBN it can't be too long before the rest of the area I presume?
NBN Co does not currently have released plans for Brownfields fibre construction in Dee Why. New developments (greenfields) over 100 premises are eligible for fibre rollout since Telstra will no longer provide them with communications infrastructure.
Construction around dense greenfields areas are prioritised, however, since the one and three year plans are already set � it will only allow them to bring it forward to 4 years before construction commences.
I recently purchased a new home next to Redfern station. I noticed there is NBN construction site near my building, however, it says:
New Development: Urba
Construction commenced
Stage 1
What does this mean? When am I going to get this Fiber to home? Will this election affect me getting Fiber to my new home?
What does this mean? When am I going to get this Fiber to home? Will this election affect me getting Fiber to my new home?
Depends if your new house resides within the new development, Urba Stage 1. If you are in Stage 1 of Urba, you are expected to receive Fibre to the Home by Feb 2014.
However, if you reside in Penrith but not in Urba, you're not expected to receive the NBN for another 3 years. If the LNP takes over, you will be provided Fibre to the Node, but Labor's NBN will eventually provide you with Fibre to the Home.
Depends if your new house resides within the new development, Urba Stage 1. If you are in Stage 1 of Urba, you are expected to receive Fibre to the Home by Feb 2014.
Wow, thanks so much! I will be having Fiber to home next year when I am moving into my own home!!! :)
If the current polls are anything to go by, in 10 years
If the current polls are anything to go by, in 10 years
The LNP has committed to connecting greenfield estates and developments with Fibre to the Premises as well. However, the overwhelming majority of brownfields will miss out.
So if the Libs get voted in do I get the NBN with FTTP or FTTN if my area is slated to get the NBN in 3 to 4 years
Probably some form of FTTN.
Hi all, when I looked up my apartment in myNBN website (East Quarter Stage 1, Hurstville), http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-EIX75, it says that it's going to connect to (Stage 2, Buildings A,B,E).
Does this mean that my apartment wont get connected to NBN as it is stage 1?
Does this mean that my apartment wont get connected to NBN as it is stage 1?
Depends, best if you check with the developers. Does your stage have copper phone lines? And was Stage 1 built before Stage 2 (logically)?
Depends, best if you check with the developers. Does your stage have copper phone lines? And was Stage 1 built before Stage 2 (logically)?
Not sure whether it has copper phone lines or not, but it was built almost 4 yrs ago. Not sure how the developers would be involved at this stage as our apartment was built years ago, but would it be sensible if I approach to the Building Manager and ask whether our apartment will be connected to NBN? Will they have any clue on what I'm going to ask....
built almost 4 yrs ago
Unfortunately, it means you will miss out on a greenfields rollout. NBN Co only started deploying fibre to new developments towards the end of 2011. If your development was built before then, you won't get it as part of an accelerated greenfields rollout, but part of the brownfields rollout instead.
How is the rollout progress at 5 O'Dea Ave Zeland 2017 NSW.
I was on one-year rollout plan in August 2012, but I'm still on one-year rollout plan in August 2013....
The LNP has committed to connecting greenfield estates and developments with Fibre to the Premises as well. However, the overwhelming majority of brownfields will miss out.
What is the source of this information?
I bought a new apartment off-the-plan. The developer's lawyer said it would nbn ready on settle when I signed the contract, but I'm not sure how this will be influenced if coalition's voted in...
I was on one-year rollout plan in August 2012, but I'm still on one-year rollout plan in August 2013....
If the rollout commences on time, you can expect the maps and plans to be released next month (after the election) around the 15th. However, change of government may change this.
What is the source of this information?
From the Coalition's "policy". Basically, they will continue the greenfields rollout provided there is no existing infrastructure in place. NBN ready is a very loose term and could mean a number of things which may not be directly related to the availability of NBN services:
- there is a dedicated communications cabinet in your apartment where NBN Co's equipment can be installed when the eventually pass the area
- ducts within the walls with draw strings for NBN Co to pull the fibre through when the eventually pass the area
- the apartment may be cabled with CAT-5/6 or the like
It's best to check with the development or to check on the NBN Co rollout map if your apartment is on the rollout plans. You can also check
If the rollout commences on time, you can expect the maps and plans to be released next month.
Then it must be delayed...It was supposed to commence in July 2013 in my area (Kensington,Kingsford, Eastlake,Zetland), but there was nothing released in August...
I'm currently in the 1 year band at my (new) house. Not to far from existing 'C' areas, so hopefully the planning is already done for my area and I'll get FTTH.
Can someone help me understand this please..
The link below shows that Seven Oaks (2A) is "Ready For Service".
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-DZ0HU
However, on the roll-out map only half has "service available" as shown below:
http://imageshack.us/a/img109/5223/x6da.png
The red pin on the map below is my approximate location inside Seven Oaks. As you can see my location is just shy of 1 lot to be part of the ones that has service available..
Why did it stop there and not the entire Seven Oaks?
Will I get mine? Is the rest of Seven Oaks even part of the roll-out?
Also, What does 2A mean?
I'm just a guy who's sick and tired of paying 100$ a month to get .05 MB/S from 5pm to 12am. I'm desperate to get this service.
Thanks in advance for the help..
Why did it stop there and not the entire Seven Oaks?
They seed sub-sections of greenfield developments first � ie. they run fibre into a cabinet in the development and then the lucky houses near it get connected, the idea being that it will be easier to roll out fibre to other premises in the area at a later date once fibre has initially been run into a cabinet in the development.
Will I get mine? Is the rest of Seven Oaks even part of the roll-out?
If you're not on the ready for service map then you're probably not getting it any time soon. As for whether the entirety of your development will eventually be included in the FTTP rollout, well nobody knows at this point � if you're in a later stage then you might get FTTP but that depends on what the government decides to do policy-wise (when they come up with one).
If you're in an earlier stage of a new development that has been classified as brownfields (possibly because the developer didn't submit the requisite paperwork to NBNCo to have the earlier stages included in the greenfields reollout) then god knows what will happen, as you're at the mercy of the current government's policy (or will be when they actually come up with one).
I'm in exactly this situation for the record with regards to both having my stage being classified as "brownfields" even though our stage wasn't released until well after the rollout began and thus having the NBN literally being just around the corner in my development whilst not being in any of the near-future plans for the FTTP rollout.
Also, What does 2A mean?
It refers to the stage 2A release of your development (estate).
http://www.mynbn.info/fsa/3BAY
Does anyone have any idea about my area?
It was due to start in September.
Where did you get documents that suggest fibre? I would love to know what is supposed to be coming our way.
I found an archived version http://web.archive.org/web/20
Hey I live in Hillarys WA and was just wondering when construction in my suburb was going to start. From the NBN website and this: http://www.mynbn.info/fsa/6MLO it said construction was going to start October 2013. . But with the delays and change in government does this mean I won't get FTTH?
But with the delays and change in government does this mean I won't get FTTH?
It may... decisions are pending the strategic review. However, even if construction commences � your address may not be covered. 6MLO is separated into 8 separate modules with each module beginning construction in different stages until 2015. So... also depends on if that particular FSAM covers your address.
ok now i have the correct thread
any ideas when holsworthy nsw will get even a wireless NBN doing the search only get the red balloon and black dot at present however voyager point 2km up the road has construction commenced
It looking pretty bleak for some of us westies .ADSL2 is okay but my iphone 5 4g is twice the speed
any ideas when holsworthy nsw will get even a wireless NBN
Under the current NBN rollout plans devised under the Labor government as shareholders of NBN Co, Holsworthy was not planned to receive within the next 3 years. However, Holsworthy would have received fibre between 2016 � 2021 under previous plans.
2016 � 2021 under previous plans.
im wondering why when only 2kms away fibre is being installed right now
im wondering why when only 2kms away fibre is being installed right now
To be fair... there are a lot of cases where fibre is installed in an adjacent block � yet next door may miss out. NBN Co has a sequencing procedure to determine which order each area will be "built" or contracted. I don't have a link to the original document, but I saved this earlier: http://puu.sh/4QDWO.png
When is the monthly update due out JX? This week?
When is the monthly update due out JX? This week?
Was expecting it yesterday. There has been speculation we will see it this month, so we'll wait and see
Well, hoping 4NDG-03 is live when the monthly update comes out. Seen zero work happening in the area, think they've all moved on to the neighbouring areas.
I'm also not sure how long it takes to "test" the fibre in the area. No more than a day I would suspect, either it works or it doesn't.
The Gemfields Qld Fixed Wireless has started after a few months delayed by tower site lease arrangements. 1 Co-located site in Sapphire, 1 new tower in Rubyvale which microwaves to Sapphire, and a Co-located re transmission site at Fork Lagoons which microwave transmits to and from Sapphire � Emerald. Actual construction to start 21/10/2013 and estimated finish Jan 2014. We are all very excited and thanks to Mel at NBNCo fixed wireless site acquisition and planning for keeping me informed of progress.
Thanks CMH..
How unlucky.. How soon will the other premises be connected? Years?
When does an area go live in any given month? At the end of the month or at anytime during any given month or whenever the NBN Co can be arsed updating the map?
Just had a couple of Telstra guys in a truck pull up in "Doubleview exchange area" and go to the pit next to my house. I was at work and my wife approached them and asked what they were doing as she couldnt reverse out of the driveway. They said they were cleaning the pits and she piped in and said "for the NBN" and they said yeah. Im thinking they are just doing regular pit cleaning/water emptying � would I be right or should I be getting excited? My area was scheduled to start early this year.
If that's true then maybe the roll-out in the Perth metro has started again, as I live in Hillarys and was told that I might not even get it. Plus a few said that work had not commenced in new areas since March but maybe the roll-out has resumed again.
just saw some nbn guys working on the highway in bomaderry , (nsw) near nowra, so close to my place...but still so far ..
This hasn't been updated since Nov last year... am I still getting it?
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-DSD6D
Last Updated: 14 Nov 2013
Status Work commenced
Construction commenced NOT AVAILABLE
Expected completion Apr 2014
Type of Deployment Greenfields Fibre
Rollout Region ID AYCA-DSD6D
Development ID AYCA-FYNYW
Development Details Urba (Stage 1)
Address Redfern NSW
Fibre Serving Area Module 2RED-02
Fibre Serving Area 2RED (Redfern)
Point of Interconnect Interim POI 2ULT (Sydney Interim Agg)
2CYS (City South)
- of Premises 150/135
This hasn't been updated since Nov last year... am I still getting it?
That's correct, only Brownfields rollout plans have been updated to December. I'm still unable to update Fixed Wireless or Greenfields data.
All greenfields should still be a go ahead.
Thank Jxeeno, finger crossed!
That's correct, only Brownfields rollout plans have been updated to December. I'm still unable to update Fixed Wireless or Greenfields data.
any new info for Newcastle which is brownfields ?
was suppose to start in OCT 2013
they have started in Mayfield but nothing on map states that
My area, marked to commence Q2 this year. So close, yet so far.
well according to this my area which was commenced last time i checked , has now stalled due to change in govt, and will be looked at on there new 3 yr plan, thank god for my cable connection which is about 4 times faster than the liberals new 20 standard
The Liberals are keeping so many things as secrets. Don't the tax payers deserve to know what is happening?
The Liberals are keeping so many things as secrets. Don't the tax payers deserve to know what is happening?
You're wrong, Mr Turnbull promised a more open and transparent government.
You're wrong, Mr Turnbull promised a more open and transparent government.
By more transparent, you mean....
You're wrong, Mr Turnbull promised a more open and transparent government.
What are you talking about, it is fully transparent, you can see all the nothingness being done.
When i click on the finished projects on the NBN rollout map in my area with in 200km nearly every one is a new estate or mega development, is big buisness just looking after big business? surely the people who live in areas where internet is an absolute joke and have been putting up with this crap for years and years should get first suck of the the savaloy ?
is big buisness just looking after big business
No. Unfortunately for your conspiracy theory, it's not true. They're just greenfields sites. Areas where there is 0 comms infrastructure so it's better to roll fibre out than roll copper since there isn't any copper to begin with.
Still hoping my area, which was due to commence Q2 this year still gets fibre.
Sadly, I doubt it will. And it pisses me off in a big way.
I was meant to commence Oct-2013 :( 6MLO Though I gather that is a loss.
Hope the eastern states enjoy their Fibre NBN.
Anyone got any new update? This is ridiculous, how come we can't even have a proper update form the government?
In the previous NBNCo site my area, Harrington Park NSW was listed in the 3 year plan for construction to commence in Q2-2014 and end in Q4-2015. Obviously these details have now been taken down. Since then the new mixed 'NBN' plan came out but it was said that construction would continue as previous at least till the end of this year.
Do you think construction would start in my area in Q2-2014 as previously planned? Is there anyway to find out about the current plans?
Just checked my area on both NBNco and myNBN:
Design and Build
Status Work commenced
Commenced NOT AVAILABLE
Ready Apr 2014
Type Greenfields Fibre
Build commenced
The National Broadband Network is being constructed in this area. NBN Co has issued contract instructions to construction partners so they can commence work in this area.
You're wrong, Mr Turnbull promised a more open and transparent government.
Copper isn't transparent, and neither is this so called government.
Anyway my area was due for completion October this year, after a lot of delays. But progress so far is non existent, last I saw was a team on dec 2012 checking pipes for blockages.
Problem is all the visible work is done in the last 3 months, so all we can do is sit here and stew. Its like going to the last race of the day and betting on a horse to come last, even if you win everyone else has gone home.
Why? Nothing's changed in the commitment to bring NBN to the public. Whether its FTTN or FTTP.
hmmm � still waiting
NBN just put up a fixed wireless tower near Grass Valley WA the other week,so hopefully not to far away for me as my Bigpond wireless has been useless lately.
Hey guys iam in whyalla SA
Just wondering if and when NBN is due here
There laying fiber for an estate here but thats it
Nothing else shows for any other part of whyalla
Thanks
Suppose I live just outside the border of an NBN ready area, would that mean my location would get it sooner rather than later?
Ie. do rollouts 'propagate' from existing locations?
Suppose I live just outside the border of an NBN ready area, would that mean my location would get it sooner rather than later?
Ie. do rollouts 'propagate' from existing locations?
Look at it the other way, they have to draw the line somewhere. It is probably at your boundary, if they didn't we would all end up with fibre and they can't ave that. (For some reason)
Guys, if you were on the NBN map to get NBN this year and since the Government change you're no longer on it at all.. Does that mean you're screwed for both FTTP and NBN at all anytime soon? Stuck in a congested DSLAM atm and was hoping for the best.
What's all the secrecy all about? We used to get the newest status on monthly basis when Labour party was in power.
Now we rarely get any updates or don't get any updates at all. They keep the boot as a secret, they keep the government financial spending as a secret, they keep NBN development as a secret.
Don't we deserve some transparency as taxpayers?
It wont unless you are in an area which is new
It wont unless you are in an area which is new
My area is located in Redfern, it is a new area.
Guys, if you were on the NBN map to get NBN this year and since the Government change you're no longer on it at all.. Does that mean you're screwed for both FTTP and NBN at all anytime soon? Stuck in a congested DSLAM atm and was hoping for the best.
Not neccessarily. I live in Bunbury, which was on the 1 year plan. I've recently found out there has been some work done towards the brownfields roll-out here even though our area has been removed from the map on the nbnco website....
Don't hold your breath, but by the same token don't discount that you might get it anyway. Being on the one-year plan, you're in a much better position to get it than those on the 3 year plan...
If your point on the map has become (removed), is there any way to look deeper to see when something might be planned for?
If your point on the map has become (removed), is there any way to look deeper to see when something might be planned for?
Best you can do is monitor the NBN site, and here to see if a Construction instruction is issued.
Don't hold your breath though.
What Will happen if you were in a area that was " Work had commenced under previous government"? Are we still in for Fiber or Fiber to the Node?
Between march and now we have been seeing NBNCo around Metford (NSW) but we are still not on the map. And i'm hoping that we will end up with Fiber but at this time it's hard to tell. Any help would be appreciated
Looking at the Perth map it pays to be south of the river if you want NBN. Thanks KRUDD for teasing me by putting a fantasy date of May 2013 for work to commence and thanks Malcs for packing up the cricket set and going home ball and all
asking here as i had no answer in the other thread, hoping someone can help me out as im needing info before a home purchase.
how the hell do i find out if an area im near is actually ACTIVE and has FTTP.
im in calliope area and have areas within spitting distance of me that SHOULD have greenfields NBN but can't find out if they are actually ACTIVE.
really contemplating selling my house and moving a street over to get FTTP if they are available right now lol
specific estates:
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-EUHVF
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-IMG22
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-HPAXW
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-INUZ1
http://www.mynbn.info/gf/AYCA-FRAXQ
anywhere around there, can i get proper FTTP NBN if i move to one of these premise?
any help would be appreciated. can't get a straight answer from anyone doing any ringing around. not even the builders or actual people living in these houses seem to know.
i've spent a bunch of time going around talking to builders/home owners in the area and have yet to see anyone that actually has it installed. i've seen houses with the grey NBN box installed on the outside of the house but not even owners of these houses have a clue.
Coromandel Valley exchange in SA.
Originally under labour the NBN was commencing now April 2014.
Under the Liberals we know nothing other than nothings scheduled to happen.
Anyone know the state of play?
Under the Liberals we know nothing other than nothings scheduled to happen.
Anyone know the state of play?
Murray Bridge SA
Was due to start November last year... still no sign of anything at all..
Hi Everyone,
Hoping for some feedback.
I have just found out that the NBN roll-out is coming to my town (Renmark, SA).
A 35m mono pole has been granted approval and is now ready to begin construction.
Can anyone give me a ball park idea on the time I will have to wait after the tower is completed before I can sign up? I am using 3G internet at the moment and the data resrictions are killing me.
Also any idea on speeds I can expect?
Will this be wireless, or will I have to wait for a cable to be laid in the ground from the tower to homes?
Cheers
Can anyone give me a ball park idea on the time I will have to wait after the tower is completed before I can sign up?
It varies between sites. My local tower for instance was built in April last year, and we could connect in June.
Also any idea on speeds I can expect?
Just under 25Mbps down and 5Mbps up. (ie ~24.5/4.6)
Will this be wireless, or will I have to wait for a cable to be laid in the ground from the tower to homes?
It will be wireless, however, depending on how they link the towers in the region, you may have to wait for other towers to be constructed, or your local tower to get fibre connected to it. What's the region?
There is a Fixed Wireless thread too, btw: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2170814
Apparently work has commenced in my area (according to the maps), but I'm yet to actually see anything. How legitimate are the maps?
(I'm so tired of using wireless internet and my phone hotspot when the crappy wireless drops out.)
I sent an email (nice polite one ) to my local mayor , who used to be in the local council, and asked if she knew anything about the nbn in the shoalhaven (nowra) area, but she said she didn't know what was happening, and has put my email to the new local member or something so no idea if I'll get a response or not , just fed up with my s***** internet , some days I cant even get 0.58 or 2.30 if I'm lucky or unlucky , I think telstra / bigpond have had enough of me but I still have pay for my bigpond.. I have thought about going to internode but they only have naked adsl2+ where I am, so not sure what to do any more.. so fed up....
Hi, I live in The Ponds ... most of the area and all the new land releases are already active for NBN.
Because my land release already had copper layed they are saying that no priority to get fibre to my part of "The Ponds".
this is so annoying knowing that people just a few blocks in all directions already have active NBN connection and my section doesn't even show on NBN website as planned yet.
As the fibre is already running all around a lot of the suburb is thee any way to pay to get it done to my house quicker ? im guessing not but just thought i would ask..
Hey guys, I had a surveyor in my street today who was doing his thing. But he also marked out where all of the underground electrical cables were with a hand held device. I assumed this was the case as they lined up with those small green electrical boxes and the lead in to each house.
Is this typical practice prior to civil works occuring, e.g. digging?
Hi, I live in The Ponds ... most of the area and all the new land releases are already active for NBN.
Try your address on devotedNBN service qualification. See what it comes back with
Hi there,
Does anyone know, or can they direct me to someone who should know, as to when NBN are going to rollout either a FTTP or FTTN service to the Samford (Queensland) and adjoining suburbs region such as Wights Mountain, Camp Mountain, Highvale, etc.
I've checked the NBN website (inserted my street address) but all NBN advises is "The NBN rollout has not started in your area". There is no indicative date provided of when the NBN service is likely to be rolled out in this region.
Thank you.
Alan23
User ID: # 158996
I really hope nobody who voted liberal is here and anticipating their NBN. thanks for spoiling it :(
My areas not going to get no nbn even though there is heaps of fiber nearby.
Abbot will make the nbn unfeasable and stand up in triumph and say "look at what a failure labors NBN was!".
Abbot will make the nbn unfeasable and stand up in triumph and say "look at what a failure labors NBN was!".
Wanna know how bad it is? ACCC is trying to reduce consumer prices for fixed line wholesale access (reduce the cost of connecting to copper networks for RSPs) this will completely jeopardise the coalition nbn in which it becomes worthless for telstra to keep the copper network and maintain. As a result of ACCC's motion, turnbull and another minister had to write a 5 page report to advise them against doing so as it would kill their nbn model. (Can't do fttn) other RSPs like iinet in particular have been fighting for cheaper access to this network considering parts of it are being removed and thus the network is losing value. So the argument here is, as turnbull has argued.. should telstra be exempt from the reduced pricing for the CAN? I believe it should be an even playing field and as telstra, they are already recieving 11billion for the decomissiong of the network and access to their infrastructure. What we see here is a minister not for the communications in australia but rather a minister for telstra.
Wow.
I guess we'll end up doing fiber to every home one day for so many more billions than it is today.
I guess we'll end up doing fiber to every home one day for so many more billions than it is today.
It's frustrating to see this happen in front of our eyes and little to no media coverage. People need to know of this and there is literally nothing from the major televised news teams regarding this issue!
It's frustrating to see this happen in front of our eyes and little to no media coverage. People need to know of this and there is literally nothing from the major televised news teams regarding this issue!
Being a fiber tech myself it angers me.
It really gets to me on a personal level as i am passionate about optical fiber. I have a high fiber diet (literally im going to die from all the fiber floating around my body).
I am so so so sick of adsl , cant to a (**)()*(*())*( thing with it..
just wish there was something we could do to speed up this nbn in my town your town every ones town...
I live 5 minutes out of Ipswich, QLD. In the suburb of Booval. Last week we had a guy come through our store as well as the surrounding stores telling us that "NBN" is coming and we have 18 months to switch to it.
Now my question is, Where can I find info if any on "Up and coming" roll-outs. The Google maps service says that nothing is underway and there's nothing planned. The only information I can find on Booval was that with the introduction of the Abbott government "Key Ipswich suburbs would be left high and dry.
If it is not on nbnco maps, then disregard what he said. If you wish to double check. DevotedNBN have a service qualification tool which tells the RSP like DevotedNBN, telstra, etc when they can sell a service. If your address comes up dry then no work is happening. To go a step further you can also go on telstra wholesale and download the disconnection date pdf. Which is what that guy is talking about. Again if your suburb is not on there, then there is nothing to worry about. In the event thst it is available I suggest that you contact your RSP or one that looks the most appealling in terms of prices. They will then book in a date for you to be connected to the nbn. Also make sure that every device in your business is compatible with the nbn by talking to the respected representative.
I agree here. Things are taking way too long to get things moving. I live in a small town, with a few hundard people, which is quickly expanding. We have a new state which has been built and fitted with the NBN, with a few more estates already being built as we speak. But no information regarding the surrounding houses.
Contacted the NBNCo and the council if they had any information. NBNCo said they have no information and I will have to wait until I get it.
I even offered to pay for them to do my house which is just a few streets over from the new estate. I understand there are variables to think about, but if you can do half a small town, you might aswell do all of it while you're there.
At this rate, I don't think I'll get the NBN for another few years..
You need to email or write to your local Lib/Nat representatives and let them know your frustration.
They don't know how you voted in the past.
Tell them that your frustration, and that of all your friends, will cause then to lose the next election.
Tell them to hurry up or else you will vote Labour next time (not Green)
Is anything happening with the NBN anymore?
I was supposed to get it almost a year ago until Abbott came in and ruined everything.
It's been nearly a year since the election, what have they done?
So sick of uploading at 100KB/sec. It makes cloud storage services mostly useless.
I live in a Lib electorate, Wannon, in a town at the extreme end of the electorate. The NBN map of my area covers all the surrounding countryside, but the town itself is left blank. I have been pestering the electorate office for about 12 months, with no joy. The usual response is that "we are trying to get the NBN to those people who have no internet at all first" or "you could contact NBN" or etc...The local area has functioning wireless coverage from a tower just out of town. I would have thought NBN would have given some thought to the proposed technology to be used in the town, but it is beyond my local member to find out!
Is anything happening with the NBN anymore?
I was supposed to get it almost a year ago until Abbott came in and ruined everything.
It's been nearly a year since the election, what have they done?
So sick of uploading at 100KB/sec. It makes cloud storage services mostly useless.
The way that this goverment's going they think that money in their pockets is improtaint so I cannot see any development in any work on the NBN and Trunbull's idea of saving $16 Billion buy using a Multi Technolagy infrastructure may whel be a saving, But I doubt it would make the net efficant.
Pollies don't want to know how to make the net fast as all they care about is their money!!!
I haven't been following the NBN for years now, I simply lost interest in it.
Is it still operating on a schedule for completion by 2021?
I even offered to pay for them to do my house which is just a few streets over from the new estate. I understand there are variables to think about, but if you can do half a small town, you might aswell do all of it while you're there.
We just paid optus to put fibre into our office. You can do that too, no need to wait for NBN.
You'll need to re-mortgage your home though, it's probably worth less than the installation cost if it's "a few streets over".
We only needed about 20m of cable dug in, and the boss forked out two years worth of my salary.
Fibre is very expensive unless everybody on the street buys into it.
If you really want NBN, move house.
not every one can move house!!!
how long is that? till the next election?
Don't know why you trust that the morons that voted them in, will vote them out next time. Come election time, more promises will be made and morons will vote how the media tell them to.
how long is that? till the next election?
Two Summer seasons away. On or before 14 January 2017.
I wonder if I'll ever see the NBN.. or cable of any kind in my life time
You must live in Warilla,NSW? or some other Blue Ribbon electorate.
Bomaderry, suburb of nowra actually..
Anyone know if the rollout will continue in the 4304 area?
Been stagnated here since July 2013 with no information released about wether the rest of Booval will actually get access to the NBN.
Anyone know if the rollout will continue in the 4304 area?
I'm in 4304 (Bundamba) there's NBN guys out on my street right now laying green cable :)
The myNBN website says my ready for service date is December 2015, the original date was December 2013, but they keep delaying.
Depends if you're willing to move to Sweden or not.
just talked with a tech guy from telstra working at my place, (Bomaderry NSW)
says that nbn is coming as fibre to the node..
He said they got the ropes to pull the cable thru but wont be till early next year..
wonder what speeds I'd be looking at ?
wonder what speeds I'd be looking at ?
not by much as then speed will be held up by copper.
I guess I'll have to wait and see?
any thing has to be better than what I'm putting up with now..
Sent an email to NBN explaining that my area was supposed to start building the NBN last April but the Liberal Govt cancelled that and asked them for the current state of play.
Answer was.....
"Ideally, we would like to be able to tell you exactly when your area will be connected to the NBN however we�re not in a position to do so at this stage. The network is still in the design phase and we expect it will take around 10 years to roll out nationally."
"Ideally, we would like to be able to tell you exactly when your area will be connected to the NBN however we�re not in a position to do so at this stage. The network is still in the design phase and we expect it will take around 10 years to roll out nationally."
That would make it around 2024/25... That will be slower and later than an efficient majority FTTP rollout. I am surprised they are putting 10 years in their communications.
the roll out of all this is taking too long.. my area was supposed to have been started 2013 as well...
LOL I just had a chat in a caf'e and the guy who makes the coffee for his costumers said there's work getting done in February!!! OMG I was stunned with this news. Still with this I will just wait and see if this will be in fact true??
So February 2015. I am still not all that convinced. :P Oh BTW this is in the Victorian Hastings Exchange so FTTN?
Hey
When will it become compulsory to use NBN and will every house have access to it? I dont know whether to jump aboard now or later
Hey
When will it become compulsory to use NBN and will every house have access to it? I dont know whether to jump aboard now or later
Under the orginal plan there was a period of 6 or 12 months (maybe more) where the copper network was going to be kept. After that copper gone, meaning for phone or internet you need an NBN fibre.
Under FTTN who knows. As the copper is staying, maybe that means if all you want is a phone service, or your happy with an existing ADSL you may well be able to keep that indefinatly.
The NBN is already here in my town, i just want it in my street....
As i understood it there is a phone connection on the box. Why would they get rid of the copper 6 to 12 month after NBN if installed is customers need phone service ?, unless it's on a "per customer" basis.
If it was the network, then basically the phone socket wouldn't work anyway.
As i understood it there is a phone connection on the box.
yep, 2 uni-V ports for 2 separate phone services. (as well as the option for the user/provider to use a voip service delivered by an ATA/voip handset.
If it was the network, then basically the phone socket wouldn't work anyway.
eh? you mean the sockets in the house? if so it's possible to get them connected to the uni-V port to use them.
I can't believe that the whole of Fortitude Valley, New Farm, Tenerife, heck most of Brisbane CBD and within 3km had been entirely skipped.
Do they not know how much money is in this area to spend on high speed internet?
Omg it's crazy there is nothing planned for the area.
Does anyone know if the Tewantin � Noosa area is gonna get an upgrade any time soon?
According to this http://nbnco.com.au/corporate
According to this http://nbnco.com.au/corporate
:( thanks
It's stupid there upgrading already good exchanges and leaving all the crap ones till last, goes to show how sramt they are *rolls eyes*
It's stupid there upgrading already good exchanges and leaving all the crap ones till last
That is like saying they should of started with the most highly populated suburbs first as they are the ones that they would see the best returns on first and then slowly work their way out from there.
Every rollout method has it's pro's and con's and the biggest con this one has is the current government (all puns intended).
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It's stupid there upgrading already good exchanges and leaving all the crap ones till last, goes to show how sramt they are *rolls eyes*
Actually they are not upgrading exchanges, under NBN MKI they would have been more or less redundant actually. As for current internet ADSL technology there is very little difference in the equipment that is housed in the exchanges around the country. If yours is crap it may well be because the copper in the ground is crap, the same stuff NBN will now be buying and using, or your too far from the exchange.
Now the ones that DID have crap exchanges from a broadband perspective was the newer suburbs built in the last 20 years, because what Telstra did was install the telephony exchange equipment in the street in boxes called RIM's. Great for telephony because you don't need as many physical exchange buildings, and in some ways great for ADSL too because the ADSL goes in the street so closer to the homes. (except of course Telstra was VERY slow to do this)
The other problem of course was the ADSL gear was owned by Telstra and if anyone else wanted access they had to pay the wholesale access fee and could only get access to ADSL1, not 2. Why is this an issue? Well other companies, IINET for example if they want to provide ADSL2 to their customers, if it is a non RIM area they get access to the physical exchange to install their own gear and then connect to the customers line, just paying Telstra for access to the copper network. In RIM area's if they want to provide ADSL2 to their customers they have to put their ADSL gear in the street, so need many many more of them which clearly would cost far too much.
So enter NBN MKI, providing fibre to all homes (within reason), providing a common platform so that ISP's (different name in NBN talk) could then whack their gear on the end and away you go.
Now we are getting this hybrid monster. Many RIM sites will get a box bolted on providing VDSL technology, a bit like how Telstra provides ADSL in RIM sites. Elsewhere new cabinets will go in the street as VDSL needs far shorter distances. All the same underlying network, except for a fibre back to the core of the NBN network. It's going to be a mess and a costly one to fix later on.
Massive lost opportunity for this country.
That is like saying they should of started with the most highly populated suburbs first as they are the ones that they would see the best returns on first and then slowly work their way out from there.
Not really... the logical thing to do would be upgrade the crap areas first, like the ones still on dialup / ADSL or overloaded exchanges (like in this case the Tewantin / Noosa one) then work out to the newer ADSL2+ ones, Gympie for instance just a few years ago got a full brand new ADSL2+ network and now there going fibre or FTTN, Maroochydore has a more then capable ADSL2+ network, there getting FTTN
The way there doing it is like me going, well I just bought a $500 i7 that should last 3 years but a new $2000 i7 just came out, I'm buying that instead
Every rollout method has it's pro's and con's and the biggest con this one has is the current government (all puns intended).
Cant argue with that
Actually they are not upgrading exchanges, under NBN MKI they would have been more or less redundant actually. As for current internet ADSL technology there is very little difference in the equipment that is housed in the exchanges around the country. If yours is crap it may well be because the copper in the ground is crap, the same stuff NBN will now be buying and using, or your too far from the exchange.
How can they not upgrade, I thought fibre needed all new servers and crap to handle the bandwidth and load and thats why it was gonna cost so much (excluding the cable costs)
Mines crap coz the exchange is overloaded, its got to many houses, schools and shops on it (during the school hours speed drops and ping goes up), the copper in the ground is at least 20 years old to tho and always gets water in it
I think every where is getting the same story ...
How can they not upgrade, I thought fibre needed all new servers and crap to handle the bandwidth and load and thats why it was gonna cost so much (excluding the cable costs)
Mines crap coz the exchange is overloaded, its got to many houses, schools and shops on it (during the school hours speed drops and ping goes up), the copper in the ground is at least 20 years old to tho and always gets water in it
You need to understand who is delivering NBN to see why the exchange is not being upgraded.
NBN is, or should I say WAS installing a complete new network. Nothing what so ever to do with Telstra, except they were leasing some space in their exchanges.
So the Telstra exchange is NOT being upgraded, and even under the curernt FTTN plan it still won't be, and they will be still using that old copper in the ground. Not that 20 years is old compared to most of the country.
Massive lost opportunity for this country.
Yes, but this is what most of the lemmings in this country voted for.
Probably most of the users on this board, too.
Want to cut infrastructure costs?
Great.
But investing in decent fibre technology would have helped charge the productivity of the entire country (not just the inner suburbs of the capital cities). Instead we are cutting corners and ending up with a stinking mess which will be pointless for the majority and a waste of time and money.
Turnbull must hate his job.
Turnbull must hate his job.
Is Turnbull even qualified for his "job"?... serious question
Every pic I've seen of the man hes always using some old ass laptop that looks like its from 07 maybe earlier
Is Turnbull even qualified for his "job"?... serious question
Every pic I've seen of the man hes always using some old ass laptop that looks like its from 07 maybe earlier
Turbull might have better credentials that most, being an ex chairman of Ozemail. Turning $500,000 investment into over $50m when he sold up.
But deep down like most pollies he is an ex-lawyer, who also dabbled in investment banking among other things.
Your question could be asked of most minister actually. Take Pyne for example, what has he done except be a Uni student, working for a pollie (Vanstone) or being a pollie.
There are many others, on both sides too.
As it's is with other ministries as they all look at the $$$ as Trunbull is no different. They will look for ways to save the runnaway $$$ AND Turnbull is no CCNA Certificate Holder now is he?
As it's is with other ministries as they all look at the $$$ as Trunbull is no different. They will look for ways to save the runnaway $$$ AND Turnbull is no CCNA Certificate Holder now is he?
I did say better credentials than most. It is all relative, and I sure the hell don't agree with fraudband.
I did say better credentials than most. It is all relative, and I sure the hell don't agree with fraudband.
Unfortunately, we lost the guy with the best credentials due to "politics" and SFA to do with intelligence.
I'm sick of seeing this The NBN rollout has not started in your area.
Tempted to ask Santa , if its possible ??
Last time the liberals were in I was forced on a workplace agreement and lost ALL my penalty rates and holidays.
Now a few months away from my area getting NBN Fiber (I was so excited) the Liberals have screwed me again. Thanks for nothing Tony and those who voted for the Liberals, who if you don't own a massive company making millions a years makes no sense.
so now , it looks like the governemt seems not too bothered about finishing the nbn??
So we who are on extremely slow net are stuck forever ??
I see that the liberals look at the expense without seeing the benefits to what they are spending into.
Yes I have been Jeffed from my job too and his dammed shed.
I just wished that the police tell our government just how fast is Fiber as they have a network in Fiber.
Try to move a CD in less than 8 seconds!!! Try a Local Area Network in Fiber!!!!!!! It can do it!!
when is nbn coming to chirnside park? i heard we are never gonna get it because of change of government?
Most of you probably already seen this but for those who havent
http://www.smh.com.au/busine
Dont hold out much hope for fibre anymore, its official were stuck with some halfassed network that most of us wont even get :\
Hi I live in Sellicks Beach. My suburb was in the first roll out plans and I got a letter from my local MP that it was rolling out in my suburb back in January 2013
http://www.rishworth.com.au/
Nothing much happened in my suburb, then the fraudband liberals took over and my suburb was cancelled completely under the new NBN plan, was a sad day for me haha.
This week theres nbn contractor trucks everywhere digging holes around the current ducts, and piping being put along main south road.
According to the nbn site they re-announced my suburb in October.
When should I expect my NBN to be ready?
I'm assuming I'll be getting FTTP because I'm in SA and not a trial suburb.
What a suprise, i was expecting the worse with FTTN in a few years time.
Does anyone have any inside news on what's happening in Chullora/South Strathfield NSW?
Green area of the map: http://imgur.com/iUCOaRw
Perhaps as I didn't mention FTTN, I mentioned HFC. This will cover millions of homes very quickly.
If by quickly you mean 30 months. 12 months until RFS plus another 18 months migration period.
This will cover millions of homes very quickly.
Interesting article by Mark Gregory RMIT yesterday. He discussed some of the technical limitations of cable internet. Once upon a time before Telstra upgrades, I had Telstra cable which slowed to a halt morning and afternoon most business days. Too many users per node and it is a shared system unlike ADSL where you have your own personal connection back to the aggregation point in the exchange. When every house is connected (certainly not the case in my suburb) there could be some rather disappointed users. By then the NBN may be paying for more upgrades to the cable systems.
Areas served by both Telstra and Optus may have some advantage � or not.
We were promised to be connected to FTTP by mid last year. They have recently pulled fibre through the street ducts and there is some muttering about March. Watching grass grow is exciting by comparison.
John
Anyone have any idea when East Brisbane will be lit-up?
Looking at all the maps about there's so many burbs that are way further out, yet seem to be getting lit-up long before EB's even a twinkle in the NBN's eye.
Thank-you.
Somerset Tasmania where I live had the Fibre installed 7 months ago and every worker left the district .
The cable is 5 meters from the house and no one can or will tell me when its going to be connected
Can anyone advise whats going on ?? please
wonder if I'll ever see high speed net in my area at all
Too many users per node and it is a shared system unlike ADSL where you have your own personal connection back to the aggregation point in the exchange. When every house is connected (certainly not the case in my suburb) there could be some rather disappointed users. By then the NBN may be paying for more upgrades to the cable systems.
That's the plan apparently. NBN will be paying for upgrades to make it 'workable'. Of course said money would be better spent upgrading that to FTTP wouldn't it?
Anyone have any idea when East Brisbane will be lit-up?
Looking at all the maps about there's so many burbs that are way further out, yet seem to be getting lit-up long before EB's even a twinkle in the NBN's eye.
*BUMP*
I wonder what will happen with the nbn if this leadership spill will happen ??
wonder what will happen with the nbn if this leadership spill will happen ??
Nothing will change. If its not Abbott, its likely to be Turnbull and he's the communications minister responsible for the current situation.
And theres still nothing happening in Maryland, but across the swamp behind Bishop Tyrrell College, a whole swathe of places have got it.
Does anyone know what happened to the fibre in Bundall on the Gold Coast? The racetrack use to show as fibre covered now now it doesn't.
just wondering how do they decide which places to give the nbn first? im looking at the map and the avaliabilty of nbn is everywhere in vic(mostly rural areas have nbn) and the greater melbourne(metro) only a few suburbs can get the nbn... i live in chirnside park with adsl 1 speeds..... so how does the nbn decide who to give the nbn first?
Perhaps the first post in this thread should be updated with the latest info on how the rollout plan is being communicated, since it hasn't been changed since 2012 and the thread is still sticky.
It seems the rollout maps are all out of date or no longer being updated for future plans, and only reflect those which are in operation or new housing project builds, with a bunch of FTTP planned neighbourhood rollouts removed.
How is the new NBNCo plan and rollout being communicated to the general public?
How is the new NBNCo plan and rollout being communicated to the general public?
They have employed the services of a specially trained pigeon...when you ask a question, it will fly to your preferred location and leave a little parcel (which is supposed to be easily interpretable) that defines their response.
Apparently, they are thinking about getting another pigeon.
They have employed the services of a specially trained pigeon
What!!! Pigeon Packets as they all wait for a Flag with your IP Address on it. :o
The whole setup is annoying....areas of my town have been connected to fixed wireless yet they completely bypassed the one part of town that cannot even get adsl....
Perhaps the first post in this thread should be updated with the latest info on how the rollout plan is being communicated, since it hasn't been changed since 2012 and the thread is still sticky.
The latest info is that nothing has changed since 2012. NBNCO are waiting for the government to agree to a rollout plan. This will be handed to NBNCO about 1 month prior to the government losing an election then the process starts again.
If you don't have NBN now you can look forward to your children possibly getting it once they are your current age.
If you don't have NBN now you can look forward to your children possibly getting it once they are your current age.
So all this idea about Getting Fiber will become a realalty say 2030? Or just political talk Mumbo Jumbo.
Will we then see ADSL3+ LOL.
hey guys I had the nbnco box installed on the outside of our premises today- from what i have seen we have had the nbnco guys in our street all week installing the underground cables to each house.
Does anyone know how long until we can connect to the service? I ask as i spoke with the contractor who did the set up of cabling our property and he mentioned as soon as the outside box was installed you could just call your provider for the rest;
However I called up NBNco and the guy I spoke with told me we will get a letter in the post within the next 6 MONTHS informing us the network is up and running.
Who do I believe?
Thanks guys, Im in Melton, VIC. By the way
Who do I believe?
None of them, the NBN is a lie....
In all seriousness though, just call up some ISPs and get them to tell you if you can connect or not. If one of them says you can while the others say you can't then don't believe them. If some of them say you can while one of them says you can't, then you've eliminated one incompetent ISP.
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