whirlpool

how long is that? till the next election?

Don't know why you trust that the morons that voted them in, will vote them out next time. Come election time, more promises will be made and morons will vote how the media tell them to.

how long is that? till the next election?

Two Summer seasons away. On or before 14 January 2017.

I wonder if I'll ever see the NBN.. or cable of any kind in my life time

You must live in Warilla,NSW? or some other Blue Ribbon electorate.

Bomaderry, suburb of nowra actually..

Anyone know if the rollout will continue in the 4304 area?
Been stagnated here since July 2013 with no information released about wether the rest of Booval will actually get access to the NBN.

Canhascow writes...

Anyone know if the rollout will continue in the 4304 area?

I'm in 4304 (Bundamba) there's NBN guys out on my street right now laying green cable :)

The myNBN website says my ready for service date is December 2015, the original date was December 2013, but they keep delaying.

Depends if you're willing to move to Sweden or not.

just talked with a tech guy from telstra working at my place, (Bomaderry NSW)
says that nbn is coming as fibre to the node..
He said they got the ropes to pull the cable thru but wont be till early next year..

wonder what speeds I'd be looking at ?

wonder what speeds I'd be looking at ?

not by much as then speed will be held up by copper.

I guess I'll have to wait and see?
any thing has to be better than what I'm putting up with now..

Sent an email to NBN explaining that my area was supposed to start building the NBN last April but the Liberal Govt cancelled that and asked them for the current state of play.

Answer was.....

"Ideally, we would like to be able to tell you exactly when your area will be connected to the NBN however we�re not in a position to do so at this stage. The network is still in the design phase and we expect it will take around 10 years to roll out nationally."

kempe writes...

That would make it around 2024/25... That will be slower and later than an efficient majority FTTP rollout. I am surprised they are putting 10 years in their communications.

the roll out of all this is taking too long.. my area was supposed to have been started 2013 as well...

LOL I just had a chat in a caf'e and the guy who makes the coffee for his costumers said there's work getting done in February!!! OMG I was stunned with this news. Still with this I will just wait and see if this will be in fact true??

So February 2015. I am still not all that convinced. :P Oh BTW this is in the Victorian Hastings Exchange so FTTN?

Hey

When will it become compulsory to use NBN and will every house have access to it? I dont know whether to jump aboard now or later

Nautyboy writes...

Hey

When will it become compulsory to use NBN and will every house have access to it? I dont know whether to jump aboard now or later

Under the orginal plan there was a period of 6 or 12 months (maybe more) where the copper network was going to be kept. After that copper gone, meaning for phone or internet you need an NBN fibre.

Under FTTN who knows. As the copper is staying, maybe that means if all you want is a phone service, or your happy with an existing ADSL you may well be able to keep that indefinatly.

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The NBN is already here in my town, i just want it in my street....

As i understood it there is a phone connection on the box. Why would they get rid of the copper 6 to 12 month after NBN if installed is customers need phone service ?, unless it's on a "per customer" basis.

If it was the network, then basically the phone socket wouldn't work anyway.

Tech head writes...

As i understood it there is a phone connection on the box.

yep, 2 uni-V ports for 2 separate phone services. (as well as the option for the user/provider to use a voip service delivered by an ATA/voip handset.

If it was the network, then basically the phone socket wouldn't work anyway.

eh? you mean the sockets in the house? if so it's possible to get them connected to the uni-V port to use them.

I can't believe that the whole of Fortitude Valley, New Farm, Tenerife, heck most of Brisbane CBD and within 3km had been entirely skipped.

Do they not know how much money is in this area to spend on high speed internet?

Omg it's crazy there is nothing planned for the area.

Does anyone know if the Tewantin � Noosa area is gonna get an upgrade any time soon?

According to this http://nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/media-releases/nbnco-rolls-out-new-national-construction-plan.html no.

BW~Merlin writes...

According to this http://nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/media-releases/nbnco-rolls-out-new-national-construction-plan.html no.

:( thanks

It's stupid there upgrading already good exchanges and leaving all the crap ones till last, goes to show how sramt they are *rolls eyes*

It's stupid there upgrading already good exchanges and leaving all the crap ones till last

That is like saying they should of started with the most highly populated suburbs first as they are the ones that they would see the best returns on first and then slowly work their way out from there.

Every rollout method has it's pro's and con's and the biggest con this one has is the current government (all puns intended).

:( thanks
It's stupid there upgrading already good exchanges and leaving all the crap ones till last, goes to show how sramt they are *rolls eyes*

Actually they are not upgrading exchanges, under NBN MKI they would have been more or less redundant actually. As for current internet ADSL technology there is very little difference in the equipment that is housed in the exchanges around the country. If yours is crap it may well be because the copper in the ground is crap, the same stuff NBN will now be buying and using, or your too far from the exchange.

Now the ones that DID have crap exchanges from a broadband perspective was the newer suburbs built in the last 20 years, because what Telstra did was install the telephony exchange equipment in the street in boxes called RIM's. Great for telephony because you don't need as many physical exchange buildings, and in some ways great for ADSL too because the ADSL goes in the street so closer to the homes. (except of course Telstra was VERY slow to do this)

The other problem of course was the ADSL gear was owned by Telstra and if anyone else wanted access they had to pay the wholesale access fee and could only get access to ADSL1, not 2. Why is this an issue? Well other companies, IINET for example if they want to provide ADSL2 to their customers, if it is a non RIM area they get access to the physical exchange to install their own gear and then connect to the customers line, just paying Telstra for access to the copper network. In RIM area's if they want to provide ADSL2 to their customers they have to put their ADSL gear in the street, so need many many more of them which clearly would cost far too much.

So enter NBN MKI, providing fibre to all homes (within reason), providing a common platform so that ISP's (different name in NBN talk) could then whack their gear on the end and away you go.

Now we are getting this hybrid monster. Many RIM sites will get a box bolted on providing VDSL technology, a bit like how Telstra provides ADSL in RIM sites. Elsewhere new cabinets will go in the street as VDSL needs far shorter distances. All the same underlying network, except for a fibre back to the core of the NBN network. It's going to be a mess and a costly one to fix later on.

Massive lost opportunity for this country.

BW~Merlin writes...

Not really... the logical thing to do would be upgrade the crap areas first, like the ones still on dialup / ADSL or overloaded exchanges (like in this case the Tewantin / Noosa one) then work out to the newer ADSL2+ ones, Gympie for instance just a few years ago got a full brand new ADSL2+ network and now there going fibre or FTTN, Maroochydore has a more then capable ADSL2+ network, there getting FTTN

The way there doing it is like me going, well I just bought a $500 i7 that should last 3 years but a new $2000 i7 just came out, I'm buying that instead

Every rollout method has it's pro's and con's and the biggest con this one has is the current government (all puns intended).

Cant argue with that

AJW writes...

How can they not upgrade, I thought fibre needed all new servers and crap to handle the bandwidth and load and thats why it was gonna cost so much (excluding the cable costs)

Mines crap coz the exchange is overloaded, its got to many houses, schools and shops on it (during the school hours speed drops and ping goes up), the copper in the ground is at least 20 years old to tho and always gets water in it

I think every where is getting the same story ...

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How can they not upgrade, I thought fibre needed all new servers and crap to handle the bandwidth and load and thats why it was gonna cost so much (excluding the cable costs)

You need to understand who is delivering NBN to see why the exchange is not being upgraded.

NBN is, or should I say WAS installing a complete new network. Nothing what so ever to do with Telstra, except they were leasing some space in their exchanges.

So the Telstra exchange is NOT being upgraded, and even under the curernt FTTN plan it still won't be, and they will be still using that old copper in the ground. Not that 20 years is old compared to most of the country.

AJW writes...

Massive lost opportunity for this country.

Yes, but this is what most of the lemmings in this country voted for.

Probably most of the users on this board, too.

Want to cut infrastructure costs?
Great.
But investing in decent fibre technology would have helped charge the productivity of the entire country (not just the inner suburbs of the capital cities). Instead we are cutting corners and ending up with a stinking mess which will be pointless for the majority and a waste of time and money.

Turnbull must hate his job.

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nikstar44 writes...

Turnbull must hate his job.

Is Turnbull even qualified for his "job"?... serious question

Every pic I've seen of the man hes always using some old ass laptop that looks like its from 07 maybe earlier

http://www.smh.com.au/business/telstra-signs-new-11-billion-nbn-agreement-20141214-126vqv.html

Is Turnbull even qualified for his "job"?... serious question
Every pic I've seen of the man hes always using some old ass laptop that looks like its from 07 maybe earlier

Turbull might have better credentials that most, being an ex chairman of Ozemail. Turning $500,000 investment into over $50m when he sold up.

But deep down like most pollies he is an ex-lawyer, who also dabbled in investment banking among other things.

Your question could be asked of most minister actually. Take Pyne for example, what has he done except be a Uni student, working for a pollie (Vanstone) or being a pollie.

There are many others, on both sides too.

As it's is with other ministries as they all look at the $$$ as Trunbull is no different. They will look for ways to save the runnaway $$$ AND Turnbull is no CCNA Certificate Holder now is he?

ant hill writes...

As it's is with other ministries as they all look at the $$$ as Trunbull is no different. They will look for ways to save the runnaway $$$ AND Turnbull is no CCNA Certificate Holder now is he?
I did say better credentials than most. It is all relative, and I sure the hell don't agree with fraudband.

AJW writes...

I did say better credentials than most. It is all relative, and I sure the hell don't agree with fraudband.

Unfortunately, we lost the guy with the best credentials due to "politics" and SFA to do with intelligence.

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I'm sick of seeing this The NBN rollout has not started in your area.
Tempted to ask Santa , if its possible ??

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Last time the liberals were in I was forced on a workplace agreement and lost ALL my penalty rates and holidays.

Now a few months away from my area getting NBN Fiber (I was so excited) the Liberals have screwed me again. Thanks for nothing Tony and those who voted for the Liberals, who if you don't own a massive company making millions a years makes no sense.

so now , it looks like the governemt seems not too bothered about finishing the nbn??
So we who are on extremely slow net are stuck forever ??

I see that the liberals look at the expense without seeing the benefits to what they are spending into.
Yes I have been Jeffed from my job too and his dammed shed.

I just wished that the police tell our government just how fast is Fiber as they have a network in Fiber.
Try to move a CD in less than 8 seconds!!! Try a Local Area Network in Fiber!!!!!!! It can do it!!

when is nbn coming to chirnside park? i heard we are never gonna get it because of change of government?

Most of you probably already seen this but for those who havent

Dont hold out much hope for fibre anymore, its official were stuck with some halfassed network that most of us wont even get :\

Hi I live in Sellicks Beach. My suburb was in the first roll out plans and I got a letter from my local MP that it was rolling out in my suburb back in January 2013

http://www.rishworth.com.au/news/media-releases/34-nbn-is-full-steam-ahead-for-sellicks.html

Nothing much happened in my suburb, then the fraudband liberals took over and my suburb was cancelled completely under the new NBN plan, was a sad day for me haha.

This week theres nbn contractor trucks everywhere digging holes around the current ducts, and piping being put along main south road.

According to the nbn site they re-announced my suburb in October.

When should I expect my NBN to be ready?

I'm assuming I'll be getting FTTP because I'm in SA and not a trial suburb.

What a suprise, i was expecting the worse with FTTN in a few years time.

Does anyone have any inside news on what's happening in Chullora/South Strathfield NSW?

Green area of the map: http://imgur.com/iUCOaRw

Kalak writes...

Perhaps as I didn't mention FTTN, I mentioned HFC. This will cover millions of homes very quickly.

If by quickly you mean 30 months. 12 months until RFS plus another 18 months migration period.

Kalak writes...

This will cover millions of homes very quickly.

Interesting article by Mark Gregory RMIT yesterday. He discussed some of the technical limitations of cable internet. Once upon a time before Telstra upgrades, I had Telstra cable which slowed to a halt morning and afternoon most business days. Too many users per node and it is a shared system unlike ADSL where you have your own personal connection back to the aggregation point in the exchange. When every house is connected (certainly not the case in my suburb) there could be some rather disappointed users. By then the NBN may be paying for more upgrades to the cable systems.

Areas served by both Telstra and Optus may have some advantage � or not.

We were promised to be connected to FTTP by mid last year. They have recently pulled fibre through the street ducts and there is some muttering about March. Watching grass grow is exciting by comparison.
John

Anyone have any idea when East Brisbane will be lit-up?
Looking at all the maps about there's so many burbs that are way further out, yet seem to be getting lit-up long before EB's even a twinkle in the NBN's eye.

Thank-you.

Somerset Tasmania where I live had the Fibre installed 7 months ago and every worker left the district .

The cable is 5 meters from the house and no one can or will tell me when its going to be connected

Can anyone advise whats going on ?? please

wonder if I'll ever see high speed net in my area at all

John Dalstead writes...

Too many users per node and it is a shared system unlike ADSL where you have your own personal connection back to the aggregation point in the exchange. When every house is connected (certainly not the case in my suburb) there could be some rather disappointed users. By then the NBN may be paying for more upgrades to the cable systems.

That's the plan apparently. NBN will be paying for upgrades to make it 'workable'. Of course said money would be better spent upgrading that to FTTP wouldn't it?

jalyst writes...

*BUMP*

I wonder what will happen with the nbn if this leadership spill will happen ??

SilentButDeadly writes...

wonder what will happen with the nbn if this leadership spill will happen ??

Nothing will change. If its not Abbott, its likely to be Turnbull and he's the communications minister responsible for the current situation.

And theres still nothing happening in Maryland, but across the swamp behind Bishop Tyrrell College, a whole swathe of places have got it.

Does anyone know what happened to the fibre in Bundall on the Gold Coast? The racetrack use to show as fibre covered now now it doesn't.

just wondering how do they decide which places to give the nbn first? im looking at the map and the avaliabilty of nbn is everywhere in vic(mostly rural areas have nbn) and the greater melbourne(metro) only a few suburbs can get the nbn... i live in chirnside park with adsl 1 speeds..... so how does the nbn decide who to give the nbn first?

Perhaps the first post in this thread should be updated with the latest info on how the rollout plan is being communicated, since it hasn't been changed since 2012 and the thread is still sticky.

It seems the rollout maps are all out of date or no longer being updated for future plans, and only reflect those which are in operation or new housing project builds, with a bunch of FTTP planned neighbourhood rollouts removed.

How is the new NBNCo plan and rollout being communicated to the general public?

klownz writes...

How is the new NBNCo plan and rollout being communicated to the general public?

They have employed the services of a specially trained pigeon...when you ask a question, it will fly to your preferred location and leave a little parcel (which is supposed to be easily interpretable) that defines their response.

Apparently, they are thinking about getting another pigeon.

They have employed the services of a specially trained pigeon

What!!! Pigeon Packets as they all wait for a Flag with your IP Address on it. :o

The whole setup is annoying....areas of my town have been connected to fixed wireless yet they completely bypassed the one part of town that cannot even get adsl....

klownz writes...

Perhaps the first post in this thread should be updated with the latest info on how the rollout plan is being communicated, since it hasn't been changed since 2012 and the thread is still sticky.

The latest info is that nothing has changed since 2012. NBNCO are waiting for the government to agree to a rollout plan. This will be handed to NBNCO about 1 month prior to the government losing an election then the process starts again.

If you don't have NBN now you can look forward to your children possibly getting it once they are your current age.

Ch0z writes...

If you don't have NBN now you can look forward to your children possibly getting it once they are your current age.

So all this idea about Getting Fiber will become a realalty say 2030? Or just political talk Mumbo Jumbo.
Will we then see ADSL3+ LOL.

hey guys I had the nbnco box installed on the outside of our premises today- from what i have seen we have had the nbnco guys in our street all week installing the underground cables to each house.

Does anyone know how long until we can connect to the service? I ask as i spoke with the contractor who did the set up of cabling our property and he mentioned as soon as the outside box was installed you could just call your provider for the rest;

However I called up NBNco and the guy I spoke with told me we will get a letter in the post within the next 6 MONTHS informing us the network is up and running.

Who do I believe?

Thanks guys, Im in Melton, VIC. By the way

purp0se writes...

Who do I believe?

None of them, the NBN is a lie....

In all seriousness though, just call up some ISPs and get them to tell you if you can connect or not. If one of them says you can while the others say you can't then don't believe them. If some of them say you can while one of them says you can't, then you've eliminated one incompetent ISP.

I don't think I'll be getting the nbn anytime in my lifetime.

fanger writes...

I don't think I'll be getting the nbn anytime in my lifetime.

Pretty much sums it up for a lot of people here in Australia.

Regards,

Luca.

I remember looking on the NBN website and it would say that construction would commence within 1 year, but that was 3 years ago! Not very riliable

thats how I feel fanger

Macca96 writes...

I remember looking on the NBN website in 2010 and it would say that construction

isn't planned in my area for the next 5 years. Now 5 years later it just says "The NBN rollout has not started in your area".

Telstra reps keep spruiking trash like, "Oh don't worry about what it says on NBNCO, it will definitely be here in the next 2 years."

It was almost 8 years ago that the 'Kevin 07' election happened... :(

I chatted to one of the candidates in my electorate about the up coming election. I asked him what his plans were to address the lack of progress (i.e. no plans to deploy NBN in a large Sydney Metro area) and what he was going to do about it.

He said it was a federal issue and couldn't really do much. I wasn't really impressed by his answer.

If our local Politicians feel they cannot affect the rollout (or lack thereof), what chance for the rest of us?

Note: I have removed all political affiliations from this post as I don't want this to degenerate into a political slime throwing contest.

Battlemouse writes...

I chatted to one of the candidates in my electorate

That was your first mistake. Whenever you ask a politician about something like this they will always attempt to shift blame first, and state pollies can easily do that in this case.

If you really want a politician to do something about it you need to ask the right politician, namely one who has the balance of power.

Another alternative is to get a strong lobby group on your side. If you could convince the ACL that an NBN rollout in your area will convert people to Christianity then you'll probably see Abbott announce a roll out in that area the next day.

For as long that this highly needed, I would just turn over in your bed and dream. No sooner that you have a connection then you will be disappointed.

I have been to a friends place when he was connected and saw Nothing!! This was a month ago! Today he's fuming and paid far too much. He's now at the Library where they have a misrible speed.
This government will not spend any money on the Fiber Network. Let the ISP's layout the Fiber to the Home.

The OP of this sticky needs fixing, as does the heading.

bit of an update for nowra nsw,

there seems to be work commenced in cbd
but where I live in bomaderry ,looks like fixed wireless towers ??
how does fixed wireless go compared to fixed line?

I am in the 2HOM area (Homebush) that was under construction but was wiped off the map when the new government rolled in.

What's the chance of my area getting NBN in the near future?

Does NBNCohave a general rollout page or information on where they may move to in particular areas?

My area has always been "no rollout information" but I see other areas not that far away being built so surely they would have some idea of when they would start in the next suburb over etc etc? wouldnt they? or do they pick at random at the end of each build?

I just want to know how long until I can get anything above the crappy 3.2Mbps (if I am lucky) speed I have now

Lol 5 years on. Still no nbn plans for my area. Ah well! I'll be happy with just getting my broadband up an running at my new house (bloody nightmare it seems).

Optimus Prime writes...

Lol 5 years on. Still no nbn plans for my area. Ah well! I'll be happy with just getting my broadband up an running at my new house (bloody nightmare it seems).

LOL Just wait till the next election. Anyway it is Polictly a Hot Potato. Turnbull is not doing anything!!!

ant hill writes...

LOL Just wait till the next election. Anyway it is Polictly a Hot Potato. Turnbull is not doing anything!!!

It's appauling! Because the general Morley/bassandean (my area) apparently didn't vote liberal we were struck off the nbn development, even though millions has already been spend upgrading/working on the exchanges & putting cable down etc.

fanger writes...

I don't think I'll be getting the nbn anytime in my lifetime.

We've decided to sell up and move next year and currently looking around to gain knowledge of the market and big box that needs ticked is NBN

No NBN and I doubt we would buy the place

I live in Warrnambool, VIC and today I saw contractors installing thick bright green cable into the ground along Darwinia St (for those that want to look) I went inside and looked on the website and saw nothing in my area for wireless or wired NBN works in the future. I called the NBNco and they said they know nothing about it either.

Does anyone know if they install the backbone without any notice by letter or the webpage etc? I wouldn't think it would be any other type of cable being installed as it looked identical to the NBN cable. Also once they have installed the backbone what kind of waiting period is then expected to have the service installed to the houses??

sambo9999 writes...

I went inside and looked on the website and saw nothing in my area for wireless or wired NBN works in the future.

Warrnambool is surrounded by Fixed Wireless areas under contruction now so perhaps the cable was in connection with this work � the hub towers are usually fibre connected to the exchange. Also there is a new greenfield site on northern outskirts of town, although Darwinia St wouldn't be likely to be on the way between there and the exchange.

FYI, Warrnambool is on the rollout list for 14700 premises to be started by June 2016. Google "NBN MTM rollout plan"

Looked on the map, no future plans for the entire east melbourne including balwyn, key, canterbury... so that sucks.... then I see that brighton and cranbourne have an abundance of NBN, wth is going on

Endo writes...

Anyone know if NBNco plans on "switching on", aka reselling, the cable infrastructure in areas that have Telstra cable.

They are absolutely planning to take over the HFC Cable. I think they are still working out the finer details. But just to give you hope it might all work ok, check this out. They are talking about the possibility of 1Gbps on your cable.
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/570297/nbn-co-confirms-gigabit-tech-upgrade-hfc/

Yay for Bucasia! We made the updated list. Now to wait and see what they're going to deliver to us!

Maybe someone here can help me out with this...I live in an apartment block in 3161 with 16 apartments.

The apartments are all wired for ADSL, however, since the apartments were built, HFC has been wired into SOME, not all of them as far as I know. Myself and my upstairs neighbour are wired for HFC, I think two others inn our "corner" are not, and not sure about the others.

my building can't be the only one that is in this situation (older buidlings, anyway)

What will the Coalition do in terms of the MTM (assuming they ever get here, we were originally to get FTTP THIS MONTH *cries*) � will they say "well, five/whatever units out if X have HFC, they can have that, and the rest are on FTTN", or will the whole block be on FTTN and the ones with HFC get another option?

Note it's currently Telstra only HFC � Optus has no access to it.

JeffC42 writes...

They are absolutely planning to take over the HFC Cable

Meh so next year some time, maybe 2017. Was hoping they would use the existing infrastructure and offer it wholesale, rather then getting stuck with Telstra who's pricing are bleeding ridiculous.

We recently checked our letterbox for our townhouse last week (after not for probably a month, our postal address is different to our residential one, only our housemate has his personal mail sent here) and there was that card saying "Construction work in your street" and how our map (4klg-07) will be worked on soon. I just wonder if there are any benchmarks based on people who are already connected who can say how long it took from them receiving that card until when they could connect and have access via an ISP. I asked in the local thread to my map area and no responses there.

Endo writes...

Was hoping they would use the existing infrastructure and offer it wholesale, rather then getting stuck with Telstra who's pricing are bleeding ridiculous.

They are taking it over and offering it all Wholesale as per NBN guidelines.

statement followed by question :)

I have recently moved to a rural area where I'm close to the edge of the blue map that shows the adsl's reach. (lol I know that Was far from technical and probably made little sense but I hope someone's following me)

From research I've done the estimate average speeds availble for someone in my area is about 2.12 Mbps and someone near by to me is getting 1.5 Mbps.

so it's basically pointless for me to get the Internet due to what I would want to use it for. (online gaming and streaming)

now for the question..

mount macedon, the area I moved to is in the roll out schedule to start works between now and September 2016.

how long before construction commences will I be able to find out that it is in fact starting?
and
what are the chances of it happening soon?

sorry about the long winded spiel :)
thanks in advance

tmac89 writes...

about 2.12 Mbps and someone near by to me is getting 1.5 Mbps.
so it's basically pointless for me to get the Internet due to what I would want to use it for. (online gaming and streaming)

You should be able to game on such speeds if your ping is not too bad. :) Ping / latency / lag is generally more important than raw speed but it depends upon what game you're playing.

As for streaming, well, it depends upon your screen resolution / download format. You might be OK with low quality, standard definition, on a small screen like a tablet or laptop but forget HD (720p), full HD (1080p) or 4K. :/

roll out schedule to start works between now and September 2016

Other questions . . . NFI :( That said, regardless, a lot could happen between now and when it might potentially go live, so I wouldn't hold your breath.

NBNCO are a joke...the area I am in is surrounded by wireless coverage but conveniently my part of the suburb (and a good deal others) are in a reception blackspot....that blackspot is one of the only areas in town that has no access to basic adsl services....

Ridiculous organisation that has no bloody idea of priorities whatsoever

Guerdon writes...

You should be able to game on such speeds if your ping is not too bad. :) Ping / latency / lag is generally more important than raw speed but it depends upon what game you're playing.

how would u find out what the ping would be like where I live?

also what effects ping?

tmac89 writes...

how would u find out what the ping would be like where I live?

That's the problem, you won't really know until you get a service and try it. You could ask your neighbours if they have a connection and if so see what they get or perhaps even try using your computer on their network but it'll only be an indication as the quality of your line might be different, especially if you use a different ISP.

NB it'll also vary from game to game due to different server locations & routing options by your ISP.

also what effects ping?

IIRC, quite a few things such as distance from game server (incl. routing), ISP, game server & your connection (i.e. wired / wi-fi).

Why not just try a service on a month to month basis and sign up if you like what you get?

Guerdon writes...

Why not just try a service on a month to month basis and sign up if you like what you get?

thanks mate! I think I'll give telstra a call tomoro!

tmac89 writes...

also what effects ping?

pongs

Am I right to assume the green cable I see going into the ground is the NBN cable?
and
Do the cable layers use existing underground routing such as was dug out when the electricity and phone cables were moved underground? I ask hopefully because I have seen the green cable going into a hole near my place and for several nights now the overhead street lights have been off � hopeful because the NBN mob may have knocked a connection loose. It may be closer than I thought

Good to see my local exchange "Avalon Beach NSW" has been scheduled for an upgrade any time till June 2016. That's quicker than I would have ever expected. Although it will be Multi-Technology Mix. So the slower fiber to the node for most places. Hopefully it will start sooner than later.

It seems like it is a common issue with NBN avoiding high density areas close to the CBD regardless of what city you're in.

The cynical side of me feels like they're just turning out the NBN in the brand new outer suburb areas because its real easy to do and you can score political points on how quickly you're connecting "so many" homes.

Trying to connect inner city areas and deal with the ancient mess of crumbling infrastructure that's been around since WW2 is too hard so doubt they'll do it any time soon, if ever. Even though one would think improving the communication infrastructure in areas where it is really bad and in areas which have a higher concentration of businesses would be the smart thing to do.

But then since this government came in I don't even pay attention to the NBN anymore, it's become a joke and I'd just get mad.

nedlog writes...

"Here Are The Next 550,000 Places Set To Get The National Broadband Network"

Arrrrrrgggghhhh so close, my area is being surrounded by NBN but still nothing for my exchange (Jamboree Heights).

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I'm not sure how the NBN selects what suburbs and exchanges to connect to the NBN, Is there someone sitting in an office on capital hill just throwing darts at a map on the wall and saying lets build there?

Especially when there are over subscribed suburbs & places where they can't even get adsl or only slow connections and adsl1 that are crying out for NBN.

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Xax writes...

Maybe someone here can help me out with this...I live in an apartment block in 3161 with 16 apartments.

Can someone shed some light here?

I am in Brunswick West and right next to existing service connections but yet there is no indication as to when we are likely to see any installation work even begin to come down Albion Street and surrounds. I would have thought that being next door to Brunswick it would have been logical to expect to have been next on the list.

Japius writes...

I thought we would all have 25Mbps by 2016...what happened to that

Budget emergency?

LOL...
People were stupid enough to vote Liberal, they get what they deserve.

right now I'd be happy with anything over 1mps !!!
which is my current land line speed :-(

Got a letter to Account holders saying congratulations the NBN is now in your area from Southern Phone Company, problems is not even on the list for any forecast development in Byron yet, they did however apologize for raising my hopes.

ByronJohn writes...

Got a letter to Account holders saying congratulations the NBN is now in your area from Southern Phone Company, problems is not even on the list for any forecast development in Byron yet,

The Fixed Wireless tower on Hayters Hill is due to be activated on 31st of this month. Looking at the rollout map some people within Byron will be able to receive a signal from this tower and the other towers in the surrounding areas ( I am hoping to be one of these). Southern Phone might just be blank advertising the area?

I take you have checked to see if you are in the FW rollout area?

Looking at the NBN map there doesn't seem to be any type of plan at all, you would think it would be done suburb by suburb instead it looks like they are playing pin the tall on the donkey.
I'm still trying to find any info when 2211(padstow) will be started but the NBM website gives me nothing. I think its a completely useless website as it hardly gives any useful info for what people are looking for.
Does anybody have any of the info I'm looking for good or bad?

NBN is available over a very small area over my ADSL Exchange. Does that mean anything? My suburb nearby is not on the planned list.

Ion writes...

Does that mean anything?

no.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/regional/south-west/a/28278070/margaret-river-fury-at-nbn-co/

"He listed engineering principles, work fronts, and upgrades to Telstra�s transit network as the main challenges for the Margaret River rollout.

�The Margaret River exchange has always been problematic for us, � he said.

Mr Gurney said the region�s ageing copper network, difficulty securing tenure agreements and State land for internet towers further delayed the rollout"

Key Points

� NBN Co promises to deliver 25Mbps download speeds and 5Mbps in upload speeds to all residents, but no timeframe is in place for Margaret River�s rollout.
� Network to be delivered through a mix of fixed-line fibre-to-the-node, fixed wireless, and satellite broadband.
� Margaret River, Witchcliffe, Augusta, and Molloy Island have council approval for some fixed-wireless NBN.
� Burnside and Hamelin Bay still in planning.
� More information will be announced in a three-year plan in July.

Considering my line speed around 12Mbps on a ADSL connection at the moment that isn't bad compared to most people in town who can't get ADSL or stuck on crappy 3G mobile broadband as the exchange has no more ports free now

my download speed is 1.5mbps max

My area's likely not going to see any FTTP/FTTH/MTM/<INSERTACRONYMHERE> for at least 4-6 years, at the current speed of rollout.

So I take it Belconnen, being Safe Labor, won't see any NBN any time soon... Like next 5 years or so... I tried looking up Belconnen and Latham (thinking of buying there) and there's no information..

Sigh. I'm in coburg north. Labor safe seat, less than 10km from Melbourne cbd. Disgustingly slow speeds (6k for me). Not even listed on a plan. I think ill be last.

TheMoment writes...

Not even listed on a plan. I think ill be last.

Are you in a safe seat? Apparently, the NBN has nothing to do with marginal / safe seats.. However this does not appear to be the case.

Belconnen isn't even on the list... it's waaaayy down somewhere... Safest of safe Labor...

darra (QLD) is appearing on the 18 month rollout at mynbn so am hopeful it is accurate since I am connected to a darra exchange....still a long wait but any news is good news

Any news on when Cessnock and surrounding suburbs will start rolling out the NBN? I'm to far from the exchange for ADSL.

doss260 writes...

Any news on when Cessnock and surrounding suburbs will start rolling out the NBN? I'm to far from the exchange for ADSL.

According to Mynbn.info (A site that has trustworthy and reliable information) says that Cessnock will get NBN Fibre To the Node (Fibre to the nearest Node Cabinet then copper the rest of the way to the house)

Sad news is you will be waiting a while, Q3 2016 to be exact and Ready for service won't be till Q1 2017. But hey, if the current government gets kicked out before build happens then there's a slim chance the New NBN will cancel FTTN construction if it hasn't happened yet and replace it with FTTP.

Just prey and hope you get lucky.

Source � http://www.mynbn.info/sa/2CES

PS if you want to know what your FTTN speed would be like then plop your address into this site (But please note that it doesn't count copper cable condition, thickness of the cable etc ) � http://fttn.mynbn.info/?esa=CESS

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/regional/south-west/a/28425282/telstra-dodges-nbn-ire/

So that clears it up, thing is that residential suburbs tend to get done first as the uptake is greater ?

Internet in the Stanhope Gardens/Parklea area has been really bad lately. I think rain might be affecting this. SNR readings on my DSL modem are at an all time low and I had to switch to G.DMT to reduce packet loss or an unstable connection. 405 KB/s down and 70 KB/s up is decent but the constant dropouts are really bad.

ADSL is the only option here and the area isn't even marked as 'planned' on the NBN rollout map. Why is this? The Stanhope Village shopping center on my street seems to have NBN service (according to the map) and there are many other recent rollouts nearby such as the Ponds.

How long am I looking at for an NBN rollout?
Would I get FTTN or FTTP?

If FTTN, how would the node connect to the house? There are phone lines but no cable on my street (Sentry Drive). Would they be forced to run fiber to the house?

The DSL connection is usable (barely) but there's no way it would support a Fetch TV system with the constant dropouts and mediocre download speed. Getting through uni exam period was terrible as most of my course revision is available in online video form. It would really help if I could trust my internet connection.

The amount of people who used this surprised me
http://www.nbnpetition.com.au/4936_Stanhope-Gardens.html

Thanks!

How can I find out where the Belconnen area in the ACT is situated in the priority list? I imagine it's way down, and would be FTTN if we get it within the next five years or whatever... If FTTN, does that mean VDSL to the house (which is ok, that's pretty fast I hear), or that I have to pay a few grand to hook it up or something.

I have just had a look and around the outskirts of my town (Nanango ) we now have fixed wireless.
But the town itself is not included in this... There is not time shown for anything else to commence for the town.

Could anyone point me in the right direction for find out when something NBN wise is going to happen in the actual town??

http://www.margaretrivermail.com.au/story/3186158/nbn-co-adds-margaret-river-to-rollout-list/?cs=1177

With some internet providers in Margaret River only able to confirm a dial up speed connections (56 kilobytes per second) on plans, NBN will be game changing.

While speeds of 100 megabits per second speed might not be possible in all areas of Margaret River, a NBN Co spokesperson was confident they can deliver a minimum of 25 megabits per second to even remote households.

�The very minimum we hope to deliver is 25 megabits per second and hoping for 50.�

Glad the NBN is finally coming here :)

Currently on a 24mbps adsl2+ connection but only get around 15mbps so yeah it be interesting to see how much faster fibre to the node will be.

think I got my hopes up for 2015, says build 2015 completion
December 2016 bummer

I'm looking at purchasing land at a new development, Watermark / Ashbury / Charlemont Rise in Geelong however there is nothing on rollout maps / plans and I can't find any information on it.

Do all new estates get FTTP? There is zero copper already installed. Not interested in FTTN especially when it costs a fortune to get fiber run from the Node to the house

I currently rent in mount druitt 2770. the ADSL speeds are pathetic, but the rents are cheap. I work as a freelance developer so I am in a limbo as the maps dont show my area in 18 months plan too, should I relocate for a better service? maybe to blacktown 2148?

Hi all, im not sure if anyone will know the answer to this but i am wondering if anybody knows when the NBN is likely to come to Gulmarrad in NSW? (small place near Maclean) and whether it will be wireless or a cable?

I phoned Telstra bigpond about it a few months ago and was told that my area was only receiving wireless coverage but have been told by a local telstra representative that we are getting fixed line in Gulmarrad, so incorrect information if being given out by someone.

I am currently on school holidays so have more time to investigate and I noticed that the telstra store in Yamba (nearby town) was advertising that you could go in store and sign up for the NBN, so i rushed in to enquire about it but the lady told me it wasnt coming to Gulmarrad anytime soon and she had no idea when it would be and simply told me to come back again when i see them installing it (as if I am supposed to know what work the telstra crews are doing when i see them alongside the road).

I phoned Telstra bigpond again today to try and find a better answer and the guy told me again that Gulmarrad is only wireless, so i phoned the number for new connections and they told me my address was unavailble for wireless because my street is mapped for fixed line!

At this point i have no idea what to believe, different telstra people give me different stories...

i'm hopeful someone here may be able to help with accurate info, but Gulmarrad is pretty much in the middle of nowhere so probably not but its worth a try.

Thanks for reading this far if you managed it xD

- Aylia

Finally, an actual benefit to living in Tony Abbotts electorate instead of just unrelenting shame. North Manly among the first to receive FTTN. Coincidence? Probably not.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/abbott-and-hockey-electorates-named-in-fttn-phase-of-nbn-rollout/

But how come no information about what areas of North Manly specifically available from the NBN site or rollout map? I need to know if I will be so lucky....

It's there crap FTTN rollout plan, not interested.

Do it right or don't do it at all!!

What's wrong with FTTN of VDSL can do a great job at shirt distances... Like 80mbit or something...

Because not everybody will be less then 100m from the node

I thought that was the whole point, to have nodes all over the shop... So things like VDSL would then kick in, and maybe FTTH down the track, with immediate benefits.

I thought that was the whole point, to have nodes all over the shop

If they do that, their costs vs a proper FTTP rollout will be even worse than they currently are.

Not following... So nodes will be like say 2kms furthest cable distance or closer?

I thought VDSL would still cut it... And won't they just gradually replace it with fibre or allow someone to pay to have fibre installed.

In order to provide the necessary speed, you need to shorten the cable length, thus more nodes. These nodes need to be powered too.

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So what sort of speeds are we realistically seeing with FTTN? Short enough for VDSL?

Looking it up on Wikipedia, it suggests speeds of up to 500Mbit/s symetric at 500m, with FTTN typically around 300m.

So I don't see what all the hoo ha was about around FTTN vs FTTH. Exponentially cheaper, faster to roll out and still pretty darn fast, and a step to ultimate FTTH or whatever..

So I'm fine with getting FTTN with VDSL2, seems pretty amazing to me.

However, Belconnen and generally Canberra (being a safe labor seat) is no where on the map beyond some priority areas.

Would be nice to find out...

So what sort of speeds are we realistically seeing with FTTN? Short enough for VDSL?

Have a look at the speeds here: http://fttn.mynbn.info/

Median speeds of only around 40Mbit/s... I thought VDSL2 was much faster but line lengths also still seem to be quite high...

I thought FTTN was supposed to get line lengths below 300m...

http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/6DBL-02

I thought FTTN was supposed to get line lengths below 300m...

More like 1200m sadly.

digitalj writes...

Have a look at the speeds here: http://fttn.mynbn.info/

I know that nodes are placed near pillars and the pillar that I'm connected to is 150m away. I could be getting around 55-65Mbps maybe more depending on the placement of the node. Woo

techno100 writes...

I could be getting around 55-65Mbps maybe more depending on the placement of the node. Woo

No you could be getting full 100Mbs and Gbit shortly after if the Liberals didn't come out with there bullshit rollout.

kyle03 writes...

No you could be getting full 100Mbs and Gbit shortly after if the Liberals didn't come out with there bullshit rollout.

True. If Labor stayed in I would have probably already have FTTP now.

lol.. It's so frustrating that I can throw a rock into an area that has NBN from my house, but since we don't have overhead cabling in our suburb (all underground I think) man will land on Jupiter before I get NBN.. You pay dearly when you live in a strong Labor area and the Liberals are in power :/

run the cable underground and create your own speed bump to conceal the cable across the road (;

kyle03 writes...

run the cable underground and create your own speed bump to conceal the cable across the road (;

Bahahaha.... nice suggestion

... I'm guessing MTM means FTTN? Is there any hope of FTTH for this area? :(

KronicD writes...

... I'm guessing MTM means FTTN? Is there any hope of FTTH for this area? :(

There is some hope but hardly any, you're probably getting FTTN. NBN only rollouts FTTP if it's economically viable.

so how has FTTN been working out in reality, compared to FTTH?

techno100 writes...

NBN only rollouts FTTP if it's economically viable.

Which is 100% of the time.

digitalj writes...

Which is 100% of the time.

Based on what...

Anyway... so is there any way to find out when NBN may be coming to the Belconnen area in the ACT. The websites don't tell you anything but 'sorry no information, check back in a few years and see if anything has changed'..

What's the overall rollout schedule across Australia? Next ten years or something?

digitalj writes...

Which is 100% of the time.

Well if it's economically viable in Malcolm Turnbull's mind

Yes they have:
http://www2.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/media-centre/media-releases/7-5-million-homes-and-businesses-scheduled-to-start-construction-in-next-three-years.html

Based on what...

Based on the fact it will be cheaper in the long term to go straight to FTTP now with no stepping stones.

I live in a group of 4 houses and everyone in the street has had the NBN since April. I checked and it says that I require a bespoke connection. Does anyone know how long this normally takes? It says I'm getting FTTP so I'm guessing some more work needs doing.

Claremont TAS. We have the external NBN box. When will my address be added to "the portal" so that my ISP can provision it.

just checked on that first link and says nbn is comming to my address !

on the old site it says Ready for Service*
Q4 2016

what ever that means

Anyone heard anything about when Morphett Vale (Onkaparinga), In SA. might be connected? I'm not seeing anything for that location on any of the NBN roll out maps /cry

Detailed forecasts and plans are a complete mystery aren't they..

shaal writes...

Anyone heard anything about when Morphett Vale (Onkaparinga), In SA. might be connected? I'm not seeing anything for that location on any of the NBN roll out maps /cry

My exchange isnt even listed in any of their rollout maps/plans. Apparently it doesnt exist.

Yet all the towns around me are currently listed as construction started. Towns 10 mins in any direction are getting NBN, just my little town was apparently forgotten about.

I found an updated link to the map:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html

I do not understand how some specific streets have NBN available.

jazzcomp writes...

I do not understand how some specific streets have NBN available.

this puzzles me too, I get that some new developments have it installed but surely the exchange they connect to isnt active yet if the rest of the area around them is not even in the planning stage?

This suddenly became like the expense/allowances issue from the government. This shall not be discussed anymore. :D

what does Ready for Service*
Q4 2016 mean guys?

Apparently Belconnen is now on the map... But there is already some iiNet (TransACT) VDSL2 copper and I understand the NBN FTTN model is not as good � with nodes up to 500m away? I wonder what will happen to the existing TransACT VDSL network...

What speeds are people seeing in practice anyway?

I see in Miranda, NSW now 'build commenced' � Hope by mid 2016 ready...

I just checked mynbn.info and info has changed
was ready for service Q4 2016
but now it says all this

Build Commenced
Rollout type
Brownfields FTTP
Build started
May 2015
Ready for Service*
Jun 2016
Preparation
Apr 2015
Disconnection
Not available
SAM
2NWR-06
Premises
3,100
Service Area
2NWR
Nowra-Bomaderry
Point of In'ct
2NWR
Nowra-Bomaderry

so this will be like cable for me I gather?
and if so will i be able to kiss the land line good bye ?

I am connected to TPG and they have just closed a ticket (constant dropouts, lost packets and speeds <3Mbps) informing me that they cannot remediate as the copper is faulty. Speaking to the last Telstra engineer that came out to look at the TPG issue, I'm almost certain to face the same issue with other carriers (including Telstra). I just had a slightly pointless whinge at nbn mostly because because I'm now unlikely to obtain a working Internet connection at my home. Not that I blame nbn entirely as I know that Lib/Nats, ACCC and Telstra all threw hospital passes their way. I'm just frustrated at the terrible copper infrastructure and the snail's pace rollout speed of the nbn:

Hi nbn,

I am approximately 3.5Kms from the CONC exchange. My current TPG ADSL service is of such poor quality (constant dropouts, speed <3Mbps) that I have been released from my contract and told that I should seek another provider. I require a stable connection for both work and study. The issues cannot be remediated as the copper network is of such degraded quality that it is unfeasible to repair with nbn pending. I am also not alone as my neighbours are facing the same situation.

According to the rollout map, greenfields sites in my suburb have been connected or are being rolled out now. Surrounding suburbs (e.g. Lidcombe, Strathfield, Homebush) also contain nbn serviced areas that are not greenfield and are closer to an exchange than we are. These suburbs also have lower population densities than Breakfast Point.

Could you please advise what rationale or criteria is used to determine priorities given to rollout areas (excluding the fast-tracking of greenfields sites)? Why have areas that do not have an immediate need for nbn (i.e. they already have serviceable DSL) been selected for rollout ahead of areas with obvious issues? I find it difficult to accept that I am unable to obtain a working internet service at my home, especially given that remediation of the copper network is not going to occur due to the nbn rollout.

Thank you in advance.

I'm amazed by the inacurate reporting of the NBN on the company web pages.

My address is currently listed as "The rollout of the nbn� network has not started yet in this location."

Yet, there are technicians in the basement of my building who have already built the NBN FttB rack, and the power is going in this week.

The contractors are being managed by Telstra using guys from a company called Casatel, with some other guy who was in the basement from Genesis Electrical.

Is the NBN website of any use? Or do they no longer bother to list "work in progress"...

One of the technicians suggested all being well the work should be finished the 1st week of November, which is when NBN will send letters to the residents apparently.

Luckily I'm on the strata committee, and the building manager has been keeping us briefed as to the various stages of the project. But the NBN site is pointless. IMHO.

I will be interested to see the reply to your email Maximus. Im in a similar position although I struggle to gets speeds over 1Mbps. Munster exchange in WA has been in need of major upgardes for years but due to the NBN blackhole nothing has been done. I have just moved in and am paying the same price with Telstra I had for a decent connection (3Mbps+) before moving. NBN not sheduled for construction here til late 2016! I sent an email asking for clarification on how they decide on the rollout and was given a generic response that was pretty condesending to be honest and didnt answer any of the questions I asked. I was even told "we cannot rollout NBN to every area concurrently". Yes because that was what I asked! I just want to know why an area like mine isnt much further up the list. As yet no response to this question.

Forgot to mention. When I moved in there was no mains cable on my street. Telstra had to lay copper from the nearest connection! Why would this happen! This is a greenfields estate and still no NBN!

At least you guys can get that, im lucky to get dodo (the only provider who will bother to try) to give me 1500/256 adsl1 and even then its choppy as hell...and there is NBN wireless (according to their sitemap) within 50 metres of my house and they wont connect anyone in the area...its beyond ridiculous that one of the biggest residential areas in my town has next to no connectivity and they completely skip it over in local plans

Hi guys general question is this a fttn base cabnit coming to my area flagstaff hill looks like it is http://postimg.org/image/qt6mumx1r/

Nope. Just a standard cable pit. I believe the FTTN cabinets are Dark Green and somewhat large.

We had all new conduit down our street last week and Ditch Witch trucks http://postimg.org/image/gx2kjubjv/

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Ok hoping I'm posting in the right part of the Forums.
I recently received a brochure from Optus saying that the NBN was now in my area.
I did a web chat with an Optus rep to find out a bit more and found out that our NBN here would be via Satelite not cable , via wireless through my ADSL2+/cable meaning I would still need to retain a landline One of the reasons why I would consider NBN was to tell Telstra to shove their phone line lol)

Now excuse my lack of knowledge but because this is a Monsoon tropical area with frequent cloud cover ( and Austar looses reception) would that not mean that NBN via Satelite is prone to loose coverage with cloud and rain as well ?

She said it doesn't because my connection would be via my broadband connection . But naturally she's going to say whatever she can to make me consider changing to Optus.

So I'm just wondering is there then any benefit from changing from my existing Internet provider ( Westnet ADSL2 Home plus) to Optus NBN ? ( other then it's limitless but we never exceed our limit anyway)
I'm a little distance from my nearest exchange but my internet connection is relatively fast now.

I'm confused ( easily done :-p ) it seems there's this wonderful new NBN way , but it's really much the same of what I have already or will it be better ?

I am sorry Helen, Satterlite may be good if set up correctly and like you say if cloud is bothering the signal then your connection is broken. This is why this thread is about Fiber as Fiber is very fast!!! and reliable connection. NBN Co looks in other ways of connection other than Fiber as it's not reliable.

Without showing your exact location, Are you on a Island?

Is the three year plan document out yet?

Yay. HFC by 1H-2017. Except we're not serviced by HFC in Kedron. :(

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Greg Williams writes...

Yay. HFC by 1H-2017. Except we're not serviced by HFC in Kedron. :(

My suburb's listed as HFC 1H-2018 � also not serviced by HFC.

Edit : well, consider me unobservant. Although the power is underground, turns out there are a few poles in the street apparently for pulling in some Optus cable. It was never an option to connect to it in the almost 4 years we've lived here � ADSL for internet & Satellite/Streaming for cable TV were the only items anyone would sell us. I guess they'll start adding connections again when the NBN happens here.

I was meant to get FTTP this year, now I might get HFC in 2018. Thanks Turnbull and the LNP ya bunch of legends.

hajdukfan writes...

legends
I know what you really typed lol!

For me it's H2-2018 for FTTN. I shouldn't complain too much as there was no date before today, and I'm in central QLD and already get 20Mbps DSL.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/nbn-to-connect-750000-south-australian-homes-by-september-2018/story-fni6uo1m-1227571477316

So Adelaide CBD went from no schedule, to 2017. Sigh, still a long way in comparison. Why is a CBD so neglected? So because our sync is higher than most other ADSL2+ connections we're of least priority? Backwater thinking strikes again :(

BrianR writes...

My suburb's listed as HFC 1H-2018 � also not serviced by HFC.

My suburb is listed with both HFC and FTTN. I can see the cable blackspots just walking around: it is mostly above ground power, phone and cable. I have even put a few of those addresses into Bigpond and sure enough where the cable stops, the cable stops! These are all stand-alone houses and I can't see any reason why the cable just stops. I mean, the vintage of the houses and poles appear to be the same.

I wonder if they will need to keep the phone cables just for these couple of houses dotted around or will they extend the HFC to them so the copper pairs can be removed from the poles in most of the places?

(FTR I'm in a Telstra HFC area but I don't have it connected)

Would anyone know what's happening in Hastings Mornington Peninsula?

How do i know when kardinya western australia will get it and does it make much difference?

NSW Dural Dural 1900 HFC H2-2016

NSW Dural Annangrove Arcadia North Dural East Galston Galston East Glenhaven Glenorie Glenorie South Kenthust Kenthust West Middle Dural Nelson Riverstone 2490 Fixed Wireless* Q4-2016

NSW Dural Dural Galston Middle Dural 2700 FTTN H2-2017

Well this is confusing...

Glad i'm getting HFC compared to FTTN. I'm about 4.5km away from the exchange.

Amari writes...

Glad i'm getting HFC compared to FTTN. I'm about 4.5km away from the exchange.
Which is what the nodes are for. To bring the 'exchange' closer to everyone.

With my area being added to the new construction plan for FTTN, what sync speeds should I expect to see? Or will it remain at the current ADSL2+ speeds i get? I would love G.Fast but without constant nodes they won't happen

Looks like I'll be paying more attention to the NBN now since my area of Fawkner is going to get the NBN starting in H2-2016 (Q3/Q4).

It's HFC, so, should I be bummed about this that it isn't FTTN/P? I am well out of the loop with regards to which topology is better, ideal, etc.

My folks have FTTN and have had a few outages due to the node being vandalised.

Good new Tuart hill is headed for 2018 as well as yokine.

Hey beachbhoywa. Apologies it took me so long to update this, but I've been really busy over the past few weeks.

I actually received 2 replies. The first was a generic cut and paste job. It was obvious that the rep didn't actually read my email:

Thank you for your enquiry to nbn. The reference number for your enquiry is 511066-154838325.

Our rollout maps show that your address, 3 Magnolia Drive, Breakfast Point NSW 2137, is in an area defined by nbn as being Not Currently Available.

Not Currently Available means that building the nbn� network has not commenced in your area as yet.

Register with us via the rollout map and we'll be in touch when you're able to connect to the nbn� network.

If you require further information, please reply to this email directly or call us on 1800 OUR NBN (1800 687 626) and a consultant will be happy to assist you.

I replied to the email with:

Thank you for the response. I understand that Not Currently Available means that the nbn build has not commenced at my address. My query related to how areas are prioritised and why the rollout has been completed in areas that are not affected by degraded copper services while my neighbors and I are still unable to obtain a working ADSL service.

To which I received the following response:

The nbn roll out is roll out with the most time and cost effective process. The current nbn roll out area's are chosen based on where the the transit cables and existing infrastructure lay.

If you require further information, please reply to this email or call us on 1800 OUR NBN (1800 687 626) and a consultant will be happy to assist you.

So basically, my area is currently in the too hard basket. If Telstra cannot deliver a working ADSL service (I'll find out by Tuesday 20/10/2015) then I've got buckleys of getting anything to happen with nbn. I was told by a Telstra engineer that the only way that we may (i.e. snowball's chance in hell) get nbn to agree to a rollout is to start gather signatures on a petition explaining the issue and submit to the TIO. As almost everyone in my suburb is in the same boat (apartments, 3Km+ from the exchange, ancient copper etc.), it shouldn't be too much of a chore to get pen to paper. I'm not holding my breath though.

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can anybody tell me what this means

2HLS-XX
(FTTN)

Status
Planned
Build
~ H2 2017
RFS
~ H1 2018

does this mean they may finally be planning my area 2HLS (Holsworthy)

says brownfields fixed line sites commencing

My understanding of that info is:

BlueLoo writes...

2HLS-XX
(FTTN)

You're getting Fibre To The Node (little boxes on street corners that homes connect to to get onto the NBN)

Status
Planned
Build
~ H2 2017

Planning to start building in the second half of 2017 (Q3/Q4)

RFS
~ H1 2018

RFS = Ready For Service in the first Half of 2018 (Q1/Q2)

OK, so another update. Telstra have told me that the cable to the building I am in is faulty. I'm not the only one with issues apparently. There is also no planned remediation date. So I am (at least temporarily) out of options.

The engineer did indicate that my local Community Association was arranging a meeting in the next few weeks to facilitate an improvement to the nbn ETA.

My area is expected to commence H1-2016 (HFC). Is this good or bad? Also how long does it usually take once construction commences?

Got an installation notice letter in the mail! Telling me my installation will be between 11th November and......5 April 2016.....think you could narrow that down, NBN?

With FTTN, is the node the current exchange? or will they be similar to RIMs?

Goddo2305 writes...

With FTTN, is the node the current exchange? or will they be similar to RIMs?

Similar to RIMs.

Goddo2305 writes...

will they be similar to RIMs?

It would be more like a community Router more than anything. RIM's are more for the Telephone Connections than ADSL. The same for those who are behind a PABX where the phone has a Extension Numbers as a simulation 9583XXXX Ext093. Have one of these then sorry no ADSL.

As for Fiber, Then you have a pure Digital System!!! So FTTN woulden't be too bad.

But what i meant to ask (i just poorly worded it), is are these nodes going to be the current exchanges, or will these nodes be new and placed around streets>

Goddo2305 writes...

are these nodes going to be the current exchanges

Most exchanges are the current POIs. Nodes "should" be <500m away (although that's in an ideal world).

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I live in Port Stephens NSW and NBN is beginning rollout here apparently in December this year.
Now I have checked the rollout maps from NBNco and MyNBN and minimal information is available.
The local newspaper quoted figures last week for our areas giving times of deployment (well as you know they are more ALLEGED times of deployment)and also numbers of premises both for FTTN and FW
My hopefully simple question is how do I find out which group I will be in FW or FTTN?
We have had a lot of issues in the past with earth leakage and inductive resonance, so anything will be an improvement tho..

Rach3 writes...

does this mean that if an address is not on this plan at present then it will be more than 3 years before the service is delivered?
Generally speaking, yes.

Rach3 writes...

Given that the three-year rollout plan has been released, does this mean that if an address is not on this plan at present then it will be more than 3 years before the service is delivered?

It will be more than three years until services are available for many on the list, let alone those not on it.

It is a commencement date and not a completion date, so many of those with dates in the last year will not be complete at the end of the three years.

From: http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/three-year-construction-plan.html

VIC Endeavour Hills Endeavour Hills 7600 HFC H1-2016

Since Endeavour Hills is around 25K homes, I randomly selected addresses in the mynbn.info site over the 'area', all appeared as;

No rollout plan yet
The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced

Is there somewhere 'definitive' where one can actually pinpoint where these '7600' home are?

zymurgy writes...

Is there somewhere 'definitive' where one can actually pinpoint where these '7600' home are?

No, because NBNco don't want to you know as you can't be trusted with that information.

Seriously, the NBNco CEO said effectively when asked about sharing better maps and information recently.

semicolon writes...

Still some days away before the next bit of kit is installed

UPDATE
the "next bit of kit" was installed 6 November, placed where it was most convenient for me � the installers asked where I wanted it and off they went. Done in a couple of hours. The blokes doing it wanted it to "look neat" � comforting attitude. They succeeded. Active the same afternoon. ( iiNet 50/20)

the NBN was running into the wrong hole on the router, which took 4 phone calls and about 30 mins each before that was recognised and since then, things have been flying.
Speed testing (from iiNet site) give consistent speed of 40+ down and 18 up, so I have no complaints � in fact it is GREAT!!

Next bit is porting the phone and the big T is apparently not playing nice.

*Sigh* FTTN in 2017 so we have to put up with the Damn Copper!!!

ant hill writes...

*Sigh* FTTN in 2017 so we have to put up with the Damn Copper!!!

Oh no. Not copper!

I would give my right arm if I could get any adsl whatsoever at all. I've tried again and again. "Sorry sir, line test says no."

So, give me copper. Give me tin. Give me a piece of string and a couple of baked bean cans. Anything at all, as long as it's not so-called "mobile" wireless with a 10gb cap. For that stellar amount of data, I pay $50 a month while most people in Australia get from 250gb up to unlimited for that amount and less. Could I get more? Sure. 50gb for $140 a month.

Since 10gb is all I can afford, I have to squeeze every mb out to run 4 pc's for my business (i.e. payroll, purchasing, banking etc), and any or all home use. Where do I live and work? Half an hour from the Newcastle CBD.

Is my internet slow? You bet. 1 mpbs � I wish. Try this...

Test Results from Oz Broadband Speed Test
----------------------------------
Test run on 18/11/2015 @ 04:42 PM

Mirror: Optus
Data: 322 KB
Test Time: 10.11 secs

Your line speed is 261 kbps (0.26 Mbps).
Your download speed is 33 KB/s (0.03 MB/s).

That's right. 0.26 mbps down and 0.03 up.

Forget Netflix. Hell, forget Youtube. I'm lucky if I can download Windows updates for all my terminals in any given month without going over the data limit. I can't even update my Navman.

Meanwhile, fibre (TTN, whatevs) is being installed all over Australia *as I type*, in order to provide better adsl to people who already get unlimited data for $30 a month. And the NBN website says <My Town> isn't even on the plan.

And so, to echo the title of this thread � "When will the NBN come to <My Town>?

Who knows? Who cares? In my case, nobody.

Suck it up, people.

Im with you Fox Hat, no fixed line....nothing. Im forced to use Telstra mobile broadband 25GB @$150 per month.......and Im supposed to be running a business on this.
NBN started work in our area just before the Liberal Gov got in.........and stopped abruptly before it got anywhere near my residence. I complained to my local member and she blamed the Labor Gov.......
Anyway NBN co have laid cables in my street but im not sure what else is being done, they turn up...do a days work and dissapear again.
What I would like to know, if anyone can answer the question....is........ how long does it take from when the build commences to when we can actually access the network

mickorf writes...

Im forced to use Telstra mobile broadband 25GB @$150 per month

The Government sings a big song about the need for equal access broadband and therefore the NBN, but apparently that need isn't so dire as to warrant any interim measures at all while people are disadvantaged in the meantime, especially business owners. The fact that some businesses pay *at least* 5 times more than others is perfectly acceptable.

The Government must therefore think the number of people in our situation is very small. That being the case, they shouldn't be at all worried about the idea of subsidising internet costs for everyone who has an ABN and no adsl access.

Yeah right. No ROI obviously.

Right now though, I can't justify the inflated monthly charge. I max out the 10gb, and get very little usage for anything that's not business related. I guess that's more of a loss for service and content providers than it is for me.

how long does it take from when the build commences to when we can actually access the network

I haven't read any of this thread so far, so I'm not sure how many people might have already said this. However here goes � I advocate hassling NBNco.

Call them on their 1800 number. It's there to provide information (or obfuscation) when there's diddly squat on NBNco's "check your address" link.

On that note, I can say that today I had something of a breakthrough. It took me three or four email queries and two or three phone calls, but finally today I was told that my area is on the list for Satellite service. Yep. 30 minutes out of Newcastle.

Up until now, all I was told was that "The rollout of the nbn� network has not started yet in (your) location," and I could "Register with (NBNco) and we'll be in touch when you're able to connect to the nbn� network."

Previously, when I called to ask why cable was being installed before the Fixed Wireless network was completed (because I thought I'd be on FW of course), I was fobbed off with the standard buzzwords "strategic", and "consultation", and "existing infrastructure." (Translation.... "marginal seats first, safe seats last, dufus").

Rach3 writes...

Given that the three-year rollout plan has been released, does this mean that if an address is not on this plan at present then it will be more than 3 years before the service is delivered?

That might depend on where you live. (See above). My "suburb" isn't on the 3YP.

In my case, apparently, that means I'm in a satellite service zone, and satellite NBN is supposed to go live in mid 2016.

Hooray when I asked NBN what one of two areas are getting they said fixed wireless for Werribee south at 2017 and HFC for altona mid 2016. I really really hate wireless internet services for homes. Just because they will save a little money we are going suffer the most disconnections, just great. 2 Suburbs right next to us getting fibre and we get the crappiest alternative to it. It's almost tempting to just stay on the outdated copper

How are they deciding which blocks get the NBN and which don't?

I'm moving into an apartment that just finished construction a few weeks ago. No signs of NBN in the works at all. Another apartment less than 100m away started construction at the same time and the NBN rollout is completed. What gives?

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Maximus Wastus writes...

So basically, my area is currently in the too hard basket. If Telstra cannot deliver a working ADSL service (I'll find out by Tuesday 20/10/2015) then I've got buckleys of getting anything to happen with nbn. I was told by a Telstra engineer that the only way that we may (i.e. snowball's chance in hell) get nbn to agree to a rollout is to start gather signatures on a petition explaining the issue and submit to the TIO. As almost everyone in my suburb is in the same boat (apartments, 3Km+ from the exchange, ancient copper etc.), it shouldn't be too much of a chore to get pen to paper. I'm not holding my breath though.

OK, so an update with a happy ending. While I didn't get anywhere with nbn, my wife saw an ad in the window of our estate manager's office a week or so ago advising that Telstra cable was available in our area. They'd even setup a temporary Telstra shop (open on Saturdays) to deal with inquiries. I went in on Saturday and was told the building I live in had been provisioned (via HFC) so I signed up straight away. It might be overkill but I went for the 100/40 800gb connection. The rep told me that they had a Tuesday morning appointment available (today). I was skeptical, as I'm used to disappointment, but I now have working high-speed connection. My wife just did the speed test (as I'm at work) and we were getting 96Mbps dl. I can swap out to nbn now when it arrives in 2017 without worrying about my current connection.

Majorfoley writes...

...we are going suffer the most disconnections, just great

Why do you say that?

Just curious. ATM I can only get so-called "mobile" wireless for my home and business, and as you can see by my earlier post the service I get is terrible. But (with my present modem) it literally never drops out.

Is there some information about routine connection problems with FW? Why will you get disconnections?

Satellite on the other hand... I hear there are problems if it gets too cloudy. Apparently that's what I can look forward to.

Hariberu writes...

How are they deciding which blocks get the NBN and which don't?

IME � hassle NBNco. They have a commitment to answering queries within a set time frame if you email them via https://www2.nbnco.com.au/corporate-information/contact-us-form.html .

NBNco's actual email replies are (IME) cut-and-paste responses with vague language and no real answers, in order to keep themselves off any hooks.

You'll get an enquiry number by email before you get an actual email reply. Call 1800 OUR NBN (1800 687 626) and quote the enquiry number, and speak to a human being. You never know, you might just catch them in a moment of weakness. ;-)

The Fox Hat Four writes...

Ours is wired and already has issues and any devices connected wirelessly to our own modem router doesn't exactly have a great connection either even with a full Wi-Fi signal. Considering our area is quite big I understand why they want wireless over the area instead of installing fibre but I really don't like using wireless for internet. We already have disconnections where we are forced to reset our router several times a fornight or so

Majorfoley writes...

We already have disconnections where we are forced to reset our router several times a fornight or so

I used to get drop-outs like that, on an almost daily basis. Then I got a better modem with a much better antenna, and I've had absolutely no disconnections at all since the day I plugged it in .

I don't want to sound like an ad for the NBN � (god knows they're not doing me any favours) � but from what I've seen the FW system will be much more reliable than much of the old cable network.

I get no drop-outs at all with a 3g service from a tower almost 4km away, so FWIW I think your problems with wi-fi aren't a real indication of the inherent reliability (or lack thereof) of wireless internet transmission technology in general. I have to admit though, I prefer a good ethernet connection around my home office and over to my main building. But I think wi-fi and wireless internet are two different beasts.

But then again, as they also say on the internets � YMMV. I hope I don't come off as argumentative � my aim is to reassure you a bit, based on my own experience.

At least now after all this time we got a rough commencement date for Casino NSW (H2, 2017), bad news is that a lot of people in this town are still stuck with nothing, or in my case choppy adsl1 because the line is that damn bad and telstra wont do anything.

Trent083 writes...

a lot of people in this town are still stuck with nothing

Au contraire Trent, says the Government.

How can you say people are stuck with no internet**, when there's a plethora of mobile dongle peddlers who charge such reasonable** and affordable** rates as $140 per month, for 50gb of lightning fast** 3G "mobile" broadband?

**sarcasm

Haha very true....they also think the median wage is above $60000 per person...

The Fox Hat Four writes...

If you say so, if we do ever move to it and give it a shot I hope it'll be on a non-contract. At least to test the waters first before moving to a contract. I wouldn't mind paying a little extra for a couple of months. I have no doubt the speed would probably be greater, I'm more worried about disconnections. I really like TP-link routers, even though Telstra recommend their max gateways I noticed no speed improvement over them and prefer to use other modem/routers

nbn crew rolling out the pipes out the front of my place today !!
Bomaderry (nowra) NSW still says june 16 for connection though

Looks like flagstaff hill SA will be going into pre preparation soon their were 2 telstra vans spotted on blacks road and a ditch with truck doing work their and new conduit lots of new pits going in what exactly is involved with pre preparation work

cw writes...

It will be more than three years until services are available for many on the list, let alone those not on it.

It is a commencement date and not a completion date, so many of those with dates in the last year will not be complete at the end of the three years.

Yes my address in Sydney's Inner West keeps getting the null results. However I did find the list of the three year plan just the other day. Depending on how my suburb is read. People mistake my address for neighbouring suburbs. For starting installation. Earliest in late 2017, which if the areas go by exchanges that is for the homes on the northern side of my suburb. Going by my exchange I won't see any start until the later part of 2018.

It will be HFC which although it seems a bugger to wait so long. Hopefully all the NBN installation and operation issues will be resolved by then. Considering there is Telstra HFC connection equipment at my place that the roll-out won't take a long time. Don't know what extra equipment has to be placed inside my place. Mind you I would probably be living somewhere else by that stage and possibly not in Sydney.

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zymurgy writes...

From: http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/three-year-construction-plan.html

VIC Endeavour Hills Endeavour Hills 7600 HFC H1-2016

Since Endeavour Hills is around 25K homes, I randomly selected addresses in the mynbn.info site over the 'area', all appeared as;

No rollout plan yet
The NBN will be coming to this location. However, the rollout schedule for this area has not (yet) been announced

Is there somewhere 'definitive' where one can actually pinpoint where these '7600' home are?

I asked NBN about this and they said;

Thank you for your enquiry to nbn.

Unfortunately we do not have this information, as the roll-out date gets closer we will have more information available regarding what properties will be connected during what time frame.

When will Craigie 6025 in WA be getting the nbn?

When will Craigie 6025 in WA be getting the nbn?

Mullaloo, including Craigie, islisted as getting HFC(cable) in second half of 2017, according to the three year plan on NBNCo web site. I don't know if this includes all parts of Craigie.

Dirichlet writes...

Mullaloo, including Craigie, islisted as getting HFC(cable) in second half of 2017, according to the three year plan on NBNCo web site. I don't know if this includes all parts of Craigie.

What if i already have cable and very happy with it?
I get speeds up to 12 megabytes a second as it is.....

What if i already have cable and very happy with it?

Then probably nothing much will change for you unless you want it to. The NBN version will use the same cable and leadins where possible but will upgrade the electronics in parts of the network. Upload speed will likely increase substantially but download speeds might be a touch slower on some plans. The main advantage is that there will be competition between many retail service providers for your business. But, for example if Telstra is your current ISP and you are happy with them, then you could continue with them on a new plan.

The advantage for the district is that houses and sometimes whole streets which might have missed out on cable during the initial rollout (very common in some areas) will now be connected as well.

so how long from the time the cable fibre is put down to the time you can
get connected ? I know it says on the my nbn site that its due for june 2016
but any chance it might be sooner ??

Thankyou Dirichlet for the info!

The Fox Hat Four writes...

What if i already have cable and very happy with it?

As far as I can tell, the old cable network is being switched off and you'll have no choice.

Check out FAQ's on https://nbn.custhelp.com/

Question 3 is "Do I need to switch to the nbn� network?",

"...existing phone lines, ADSL internet, Telstra/Optus cable internet, and some Telstra Velocity fibre services will be disconnected and replaced by the nbn�*"

There's a link to "find out what services will be switched off."

One of my friends houses is quite close to the fixed wireless connection limits. From (anyones) experience, do nbn co allow a pole to be erected to facilitate a connection? Or, failing that, the antenna to be mounted away from the house (large property)?

As far as I can tell, the old cable network is being switched off and you'll have no choice.

That's no longer the case.

You will have no choice as the old cable network will be used for the NBN.

Xenocaust writes...

That's no longer the case.

You will have no choice as the old cable network will be used for the NBN.

So basically my cable internet with telstra already will have no interruptions???

Xenocaust writes...

You will have no choice as the old cable network will be used for the NBN.

Also the same for Copper Twisted Pair as it's deemed "Workable"

So we can say that the NBN is not just about Fiber.