In light of the NBN � Western Australian Rollout thread (whrl.pl/RclC2R) being closed, this thread is dedicated to the NBN Applecross (WA) Fibre Serving Area [6APP]. Current status is Fibre Construction commenced on Feb 2012.
To see the boundaries head to http://www.nbnco.com.au/rollout/rollout-map.html
and type in "Applecross".
Includes following suburbs; Applecross, Ardross, Bateman, Booragoon, Brentwood, Bull Creek, Leeming, Mount Pleasant, Murdoch, North Lake, Winthrop
[Edit: Typo]
Pretty sure it's NBN related works that I've spotted in Karoonda and Ratcliffe Roads in Booragoon where there seem to be a team of people laying new conduit along the street(s). Area already has underground power. No green cable yet so can only assume conduit for NBN.
Where will 6AAP be located ? Is it a new site?
Applecross Fibre Serving Area (6APP)
Detailed Map
http://www.nbnco.com.au/
Expected dates of Ready For Service
http://www.nbnco.com
- 6APP-01 Sep-2013: Applecross, Mount Pleasant
- 6APP-02 Oct-2013: Applecross, Ardross, Booragoon
- 6APP-03 Nov-2013: Ardross, Mount Pleasant
- 6APP-04 Dec-2013: Booragoon, Brentwood, Mount Pleasant
- 6APP-05 Oct-2013: Winthrop
- 6APP-06 Dec-2013: Bateman, Murdoch
Expected dates of Construction Commence
http://www.nbnco.co
Bull Creek, Leeming, Murdoch
- 6APP-## Feb-2013
- 6APP-## Apr-2013
- 6APP-## Apr-2013
- 6APP-## Aug-2013
Where will 6AAP be located ?
My bad � OP edited!
Nice work Aaron on updating this and the other new WA threads.
The guys working in Karoonda Road have got NBNCo logos on their gear, so I'd say NBN is a pretty safe bet. :P Other underground services (power, gas, Telstra) are marked along Karoonda Road and onto Riseley Street, so work will probably proceed along there.
My neighbour on Riseley Street (current iinet customer) has received a pamphlet from iinet. The gist: 'NBN will be installed on your street shortly and we'll be contacting you when the service goes live'. That seems like a long lead-in time if the service isn't due to start until September?
Personally, can't wait.
6APP-01 Sep-2013: Applecross, Mount Pleasant
6APP-02 Oct-2013: Applecross, Ardross, Booragoon
Looks like some significant delays.
As recently as Jan those were as follows:
6APP-01 Jun-2013: Applecross, Mount Pleasant
6APP-02 Jun-2013: Applecross, Ardross, Booragoon
So 3 months and 4 months respectively.
I recently wrote to NBN Co, asking what was happening.
Here is their reply:-
"Thank you for your enquiry to NBN Co,
Currently for your address of xxxx, Applecross WA 6153 at this time is scheduled to be completed in June 2013. The time frame to complete an area is an estimate of 12 months but many take longer if there some unforeseen circumstances.
To keep up to date with the rollout in your area you can subscribe to our newsletter www.nbnco.com.au/subscriptions or refer to the website for more information or alternatively call our contact centre on 1800 687 626."
It looks like the Syntheo issue in WA is probably bigger than is being admitted. There is an interesting � admittedly biased, as normal � article in today's AFR, but I'm sure there is an element of truth in this. Getting the trained and committed techs to do the job was always going to be an issue, especially in WA given the job situation. Unfortunately, all more ammunition for Turdball to gab off about.
All we need now is a few bad installations by untrained people � holes in walls, rose bushes trampled on etc � and I can just imagine the good burghers of Applecross, which is in the seat of Tangney � one of the safest LNP seats in the Country � will go ballistic!
That seems like a long lead-in time if the service isn't due to start until September?
Aaron's list shows the dates that the entire FSAM is going to go live but as of last month NBN Co have indicated that some small areas of the FSAMs will go live early (this is being done so that NBN Co have a chance to meet their premises passed target for this financial year).
For Applecross 3 areas in 6APP-01 covering ~198 premises each and 2 areas in 6APP-02 covering ~173 premises each (~940 premises in total) are expected to go live before the end of the financial year (30 June).
It's possible that your neighbour is in the lucky ~940 premises.
When you give a locality is that the local government area or is it the area covered by the exchange? For example:
6APP-06 Dec-2013: Bateman, Murdoch
Would that be Bateman exchange area?
I am sure this has been asked before but I cannot find it.
When you give a locality is that the local government area or is it the area covered by the exchange?
It is the suburb (LGA) not the exchange.
Would that be Bateman exchange area?
the bateman exchange covers a massive area, so no.
For Applecross 3 areas in 6APP-01 covering ~198 premises each and 2 areas in 6APP-02 covering ~173 premises each (~940 premises in total) are expected to go live before the end of the financial year (30 June).
It's possible that your neighbour is in the lucky ~940 premises.
This may be so. Got this from the Vic Park thread. I *think* it lists those premises due for early connection.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/asse
Got some mail from a contractor group who are laying cable in Bateman, so i guess that is a good sign. Had an NBN logo but was branded Westnetworks or some such.
All go outside the front of my house this morning (which just happens to be across from the Applecross Exchange...
Security Cam is going slightly nuts :) Seems to be a collection of yellow cable, and various other goodies and a bunch of yellow NBN shirts, could be an interesting day... been about 6-8 weeks since they rolled out the green fibre.
Good luck guys, hopefully you'll have it sooner. I'm eager to see my in-laws house in Ardross having NBN but my guess the least it will only come into activation in December or later.
My own NBN deployment in Atwell Greenfield started in April 2012 but only got activated in late December 2012.
The sad thing was there is only a limited no of providers when I signed up. iiNet, Exetel and Bigpong. I'm with iiNet and speed is good.
Good to hear that there is some activity in the area. Things were pretty quiet in this thread so I thought work might have been on hold :)
I'm in Brentwood, so still have a while to wait before I see anything beginning here.
Can't wait to get off vivid.
Still can't believe that I can't even get ADSL1 here!
Can't wait to get off vivid.
Still can't believe that I can't even get ADSL1 here!
You could have been on Cable? I was on Bigpong cable in Winthrop. I was on Vivid too while waiting for NBN to be activated. How fast is vivid in that area?
When I contacted telstra the only option they provide was mobile internet.
The speed with vivid isn't too bad, but it isn't as consistent as being with ADSL.
Just ran speedtest and got
1.43Mbps down
0.8Mbps up
I have seen much higher speeds though, around 8Mbps. Just depends on time of day, weather etc
Maybe yes but given premises serviced by Bateman exchange are in an HFC area it is unlikely there will be any FTTH builds south of Leach highway to brownfield premises thanks to the SR
as mentioned prior that area is NOT serviced by HFC
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as mentioned prior that area is NOT serviced by HFC
Maybe but when I type in the Telstra Broadband checker the address:
20 Broadhurst Crescent Bateman, WA 6150 (random address I picked)
it comes back with:
Great news, you can get Telstra Bundles via Cable
So the HFC cable is there ... somewhere ... you just have to get it hooked up to your premises. Either way even if Telstra says it can't, this is an HFC area and if you don't get HFC now when NBN upgrades the HFC you will (but not FTTH).
So the HFC cable is there ... somewhere ... you just have to get it hooked up to your premises. Either way even if Telstra says it can't, this is an HFC area and if you don't get HFC now when NBN upgrades the HFC you will (but not FTTH).
it says that but i live in the area � if you ring up and try to order it isn't possible. So i'm guessing it does the match on postcode, or they did some streets and not others. go figure.
So i'm guessing it does the match on postcode, or they did some streets and not others. go figure
Exactly. I can get it in Winthrop but I notice what appear to be Foxtel satellite dishes near my place so I wonder if all streets can access cable let alone other areas like Bateman/Bull Creek which are all serviced by Bateman exchange.
I assume the HFC backhaul runs from the exhange as would the NBN FTTH (which is may or may not still go ahead now), so the new NBN has its job cut out completing the HFC to all premises that currently don't get it.
I can't envisage one street with HFC and the other with FTTH/FTTN making any sense whatsoever. So the NBN has to decide to either complete the HFC (fill in the holes left by Telstra) or continue and deploy FTTH to all premises (and only leave the HFC where currently available for Foxtel).
I can't envisage one street with HFC and the other with FTTH/FTTN making any sense whatsoever. So the NBN has to decide to either complete the HFC (fill in the holes left by Telstra) or continue and deploy FTTH to all premises (and only leave the HFC where currently available for Foxtel).
I think the plan says they will need to upgrade HFC anyway so that sounds like they will need to "fill in the gaps". Good for us I guess � better than FTTN.
Anyone booked in their connections? Or have a working service yet?
I had the installers come out. There's a problem with the Telstra conduit. Too narrow or blocked. So back to limbo for me. Wondering how many other people will be in the same boat.
I had the installers come out. There's a problem with the Telstra conduit. Too narrow or blocked. So back to limbo for me. Wondering how many other people will be in the same boat.
In that case, isn't the solution to cut your Telstra landline and use that to pull the fibre through? Obviously it's going to kill your landline service, but who uses that nowadays?
I had the installers come out. There's a problem with the Telstra conduit. Too narrow or blocked. So back to limbo for me. Wondering how many other people will be in the same boat.
That's worrying as I still have a damaged pit out next to the driveway. And the landline conduit doesn't seem big enough to pull anything else through either.
What did they say they're going to do?
What did they say they're going to do?
They reported it up the line. At some point some other crew will arrive and dig up some harden beds and brick paving to install new conduit. My wife is uber impressed. No eta .
In that case, isn't the solution to cut your Telstra landline and use that to pull the fibre through? Obviously it's going to kill your landline service, but who uses that nowadays?
That option wasn't presented to me and I doubt they'd do it. If something went wrong you'd be left with no communications option. Nbn would have a possible public relations disaster on their hands.
At some point some other crew will arrive and dig up some harden beds and brick paving to install new conduit. My wife is uber impressed. No eta .
Do you mean they just gonna show up at your premises at whenever, dig up a few pavings without owner supervision? Personally I'm not too comfortable with that :P
That option wasn't presented to me and I doubt they'd do it. If something went wrong you'd be left with no communications option. Nbn would have a possible public relations disaster on their hands.
Wait until a good majority of people in suburbs fine out their lead-in phone cable is direct buried into the ground from the street to their house.
Wonder who is going to pay for conduit and a new fibre to the house then?
Do you mean they just gonna show up at your premises at whenever, dig up a few pavings without owner supervision?
I expect they'll ask permission. If the answer is no, I expect the answer will be 'Fine. Get back in touch when you've done it yourself'.
Wait until a good majority of people in suburbs fine out their lead-in phone cable is direct buried into the ground from the street to their house.
Wonder who is going to pay for conduit and a new fibre to the house then?
Telstra, I'd hope. We paid them good money for those conduits.
In that case, isn't the solution to cut your Telstra landline and use that to pull the fibre through?
Depends on what is blocking the conduit, if it's just partially crushed or full of dirt it would work. However if the blockage is due to the pipe being crushed by tree roots, rocks or one of the elbows has come off, then its likely pulling on the phone cable wouldn't budge it.
It's also possible to have pipes damaged in such a way that you can't feed another cable in, or it can only move in one direction.
Given fibre is involved, yanking and pulling will just break the strands. Unlike Telstra bodges it's best to fix the cause, the conduit itself.
Telstra, I'd hope. We paid them good money for those conduits.
The construct with Telstra doesn't cover lead in conduits. Ownership is transferred, along with the responsibility to fix whatever is wrong with them. In short fixing those particular conduits is NBNco's problem.
I don't have high hopes, but I live on the other side of the road from 6APP-02 (in 6APP-03)... I have written an email to NBNCo asking if it is possible to have my house connected. The above-ground power poles are on my side of the street. Determined to try!
I don't have high hopes, but I live on the other side of the road from 6APP-02 (in 6APP-03)... I have written an email to NBNCo asking if it is possible to have my house connected. The above-ground power poles are on my side of the street. Determined to try!
Yeah same here mate, I live on Bedford Rd, which is the cut-off between 6APP-02 and 6APP-03, if you could update me when Telstra replies your email, that would be much appreciated
Just seen workers wearing NBN shirts pulling rope at a pit on Winthrop Drive (western side) near the corner of Aitken Drive (closest to Somerville Boulevard).
Just seen workers wearing NBN shirts pulling rope at a pit on Winthrop Drive (western side) near the corner of Aitken Drive (closest to Somerville Boulevard).
Now that is interesting! I have read many posts of NBN workers roping parts of Winthrop and Bateman and then recently around Bull Creek, but that was before the SR was released.
Who knows my 2 year contract with BigPond HFC cable may well end up as BigPond NBN FTTH.
Now that is interesting! I have read many posts of NBN workers roping parts of Winthrop and Bateman and then recently around Bull Creek, but that was before the SR was released.
There's a truck complete with two large drums of shiny new green fibre cable parked on the verge on Sommerville Boulevarde just east of the Winthrop Drive. Unfortunately I didn't have time to stop and chat to the driver.
What's with Bateman Rd? The only reports we get from 6APP-04 (or is this further north in 6APP-03?) seem to involve Bateman Rd, hopefully that is not the only activity in the area.
6APP-04, near intersection of Bateman Road and Cranford Ave.
A lot of stuff in Cranford Ave as well, same yellow wire being put. They were doing it all day on Saturday. A lot of activity in the brentwood area.
A lot of activity in the brentwood area.
I notice few if any reports of remediation activity in 6APP-03. My hunch is 6APP-03 is ready to go to Build and that all depends on how busy the contractors are with the existing builds (e.g in 6APP-01) so the only remediation left to be carried out is in 6APP-04. Once that is complete (i.e. it all goes quiet again) it is then a wait and see on when the actual Build can start (which is when you start seeing the green fibre cable).
Watched a crew start shoving green cable down a hole this morning while waiting for a bus.
6APP-03 side of Canning Highway / Ullapool Rd.
Right here: http://goo.gl/Q7fF05 / http://i.imgur.com/3ngAlMk.jpg (Reel to the left).
Some more digging started in 6AP-04. Looks like they are getting better access to the Telstra pits at Mooyleen & Cranford outside the primary school
https://dl.dropboxuserconten
And also at Sicklemore & Rountree near the pumping station
https://dl.dropboxuserconten
Some more digging started in 6AP-04. Looks like they are getting better access to the Telstra pits at Mooyleen & Cranford outside the primary school
And also at Sicklemore & Rountree near the pumping station
i saw both these sites yesterday, are they NBN? that's my doubt about it.
I didn't really have a close look at the work.
Hope it is.
I asked the guys doing the work, and they said it is NBN related. The trucks (with a digger) had a communication logo on them which is why I ended up asking cause why would a communications company need a digger? They said yes I could kiss my sucky ADSL goodbye, eventually.
The crew has also been working their way down Sicklemore Rd today according to my back neighbour.
Wow...thanks Sambo..
This is really a good news! Hope to get the connect me! flyer in my postbox.
Me too but I wouldn't wait outside the letterbox tomorrow though.
It looks like they are fixing the telstra access points, both inside and on the outside.
I saw one that had been done, it had a new rubber seal around the pit lid, and they have been digging the ground around it and opened it up to check the state inside.
They were working on a lit near Sicklemore Rd, and the crew in Moolyeen near the primary school had gone today.
Saw a couple contractor trucks setting up with the yellow snake along Parry Ave, Bateman near Marsengo Rd and also Morphett Cres this morning. They were accompanied by a Telstra vehicle as well, so I'm not sure if that would be related to NBN activity or not. Possible cable route from 6APP-05 to Bateman exchange?
Saw a couple contractor trucks setting up with the yellow snake along Parry Ave, Bateman near Marsengo Rd
I think this is the rodding and roping "team" that whizzed through Winthrop (6APP-05) a couple of weeks ago and I suspect are now doing 6APP-06 (Murdoch, Bateman). You will probably see them in Bull Creek, Leeming by the end of the month.
On a related note check out the number of NBN jobs in Perth:
http://www.jobseeker.com.au/Nbn-jobs-in-Perth-WA
Only Sydney and Melbourne have more positions listed, so there seems to be a massive ramp up of capability for Perth NBN works, I guess because we are playing catch up (since NBN started in Perth metro it has only ever been the 3 FSAs: 6VIC, 6SPT and 6APP, no new FSAs yet, so maybe it is about time?).
I'm in Bateman and there was a couple of guys cleaning out all the Telstra pits along my street and it looks like they were doing a majority of the streets on the west side of the freeway in Bateman.
I asked the guys what they were up to and he said they were 'cleaning it out for the new wifi cable that is going to be installed'...so not sure what to make of that. :)
he said they were 'cleaning it out for the new wifi cable that is going to be installed
He said "wifi" because he knew you'd understand that, whereas if he said NBN he'd have to spend the next half hour explaining it. :D
Saw some pit roping/TerraVac activities this morning near the corner of Robson Way/Johanson Promenade.
I'm pretty sure its the remediation stage at the moment. Contek Communications are the ones fixing all the Telstra pit access. Some is very minor and some much more involved.
So how long between finishing remediation and start of the next stage I wonder?
The pictures are from Sicklemore St Brentwood but I've seen this at a few places in Moolyeen & Cranford Rd as well, so the pictures are pretty typical.
Good news from monthly NBN map update:
6APP-03 has now officially gone to Build (previously Build Prep) together with the existing 6APP-01 (still in Build).
At this rate 6APP-05 should go to Build Prep by Nov/Dec and 6APP-04 to Build by Feb/Mar.
Contek workers running a yellow snake between pits in Sicklemore St this morning I see.
At this rate 6APP-05 should go to Build Prep by Nov/Dec and 6APP-04 to Build by Feb/Mar.
So properties in Winthrop near Piney Lakes should get connected at the same time as the other side of Winthrop (like Hatherley Pde)?
So properties in Winthrop near Piney Lakes should get connected at the same time as the other side of Winthrop (like Hatherley Pde)?
Good question. Certainly when a particular FSAM goes Active you would think all properties in that area would be accessible, and I believe the new NBN will only declare an area Active when most properties can be serviced. So don't be surprised if an area remains in Build for 9-12 months even though most of the works would have finished within 6 months.
Specifically for 6APP-05 which is Winthrop the map can be viewed from:
http://www.mynbn.info/fsam/6APP-05
which covers all premises bounded by Leach Highway, North Lake Road, Somerville Blvd and Murdoch Drive (plus extensions into parts of Kardinya south of Somerville Blvd covered by Bateman exchange), i.e. Winthrop.
Got a little card in the letterbox threatening construction of the NBN in my area is about to commence.
Bedford rd ardross.
I think this is 6APP-03??
are these areas around the Applecross rollout going to be done in the fibre to the home, or have they changed to the node thing?
Well just this morning I passed a crew from FTT installing a PCD on a house in Forbes Rd. Apparently they're doing single dwellings in the area and told me they should be coming in the next few days to get me installed.
REPLYING TO
Monsta60...
I see work men put coloured bits of pipe in the ground.
The pvc pipes mark existing underground services (power, water, gas etc) that they dont want to hit
big 'ditch witch' tank looking thing on a truck
That is for the directional drill that they use to bore new comms conduits under roads and verges
What is the tank actually used for though? Because I've seen them on the trucks of the workman who put the colourful pipes in the ground. Also I've seen the bigger versions of the tank on other trucks too
What is the tank actually used for though?
The tank on a long truck contains 'driller's clay', a very slippery non-toxic lubricant that's pumped through to the drill head via the hollow rodding used with the horizontal boring machine [Ditch Witch].
If its the smaller tank perched at a 45 degree angle, its a vacuum truck to suck out wet dirt and left-over driller's clay from holes and pits.
colourful pipes in the ground
The colours tell them what service is below � comms, gas, power, water, sewer.
I'm seeing lots of pipes in a few more places in -04. Up Karoonda near the park (not the oval) is new, and I'm seeing more trucks and the driller. Looks like they are ramping it up here.
And a heap of other roads south of Coomoora Rd have the poly pipes in the ground I noticed today driving around. NBN drillers were at Thorman Rd on Friday afternoon.
Have a look at:
http://www.nbnco.com.au/c
and my post and responses:
whrl.pl/Rd9BMj
Question: What does this imply for Applecross FSA? I can only assume this document lists new construction from the design up and 2200 premises the last FSAM to come off the ranks, I think 6APP-01 to 6APP-07 have been covered (6APP-07 has had rodding and roping activity so already in design/construction) so it could be referring to 6APP-08 (Leeming, Bull Creek) or a new FSAM 6APP-09 (rest of Leeming).
What is really funny is that NBN is using one metric for the rollout (construction means Build Prep) but another for this document (construction means planning and design) which leaves areas like 6APP-06, 6APP-07 and 6APP-08 in limbo since they are neither here nor there!
EDIT: REAL BAD NEWS: Or it could be that the 2200 premises only covers 6APP-05 which is in Build Prep now and yet to enter Build (construction), so what happens to the others in 6APP-06 to 6APP-08 where rodding and roping has been taking place? Put on hold until June 2016?
Yeah, lots of action, saw them running main cable looking stuff down the Esplanade past Deepwater Point heading towards Mt Henry Bridge.. on a Saturday!
I just checked the NBNco.com.au about the status.
The status is now build commenced in 6APP-04.
"The NBN is coming to your address.
Work started in your area in Oct 2014.
NBN Co will provide more information as works progress. In the meantime, contact your preferred service provider to discuss an NBN plan that suits your needs.
CHOOSE A PROVIDER"
Should we start contacting the provider?
Should we start contacting the provider?
Don't think you need to contact the provider until RFS.
Given that 01 and 03 have not yet gone live, it will probably take 6 � 12 months before 04 is RFS
does app01 have a date for RFS?
Saw this yesterday � http://i.imgur.com/T56NwQW.jpg (telstra thing under the tree)
Went and spoke to the man digging the hole around the node? Not too sure what it was but he said they're upgrading the infrastructure in preparation for the NBN.
In winthrop by the way.
In winthrop by the way.
They would be replacing Telstra pits and maybe even ducts in Winthrop as part of 6APP-05 remediation since we are now in so-called Build Prep. Mind you, this is for FTTP NBN so no nodes we need to worry about.
REAL BAD NEWS: Or it could be that the 2200 premises only covers 6APP-05 which is in Build Prep now and yet to enter Build (construction), so what happens to the others in 6APP-06 to 6APP-08 where rodding and roping has been taking place? Put on hold until June 2016?
they may be trying to include bull creek / bateman and surrounds as HFC since there was a roll out in those areas in some places.
they may be trying to include bull creek / bateman and surrounds as HFC since there was a roll out in those areas in some places.
I am surprised there hasn't any discussion in the media regarding what the premises numbers mean where we have existing FTTP work, all seem to be concentrated on the new areas. And I am disappointed NBN are not more forthcoming. However from a technical and even economic point of view if 6APP-05 is in Build Prep for NBN FTTP (why would pits be replaced if they are going to use the existing HFC?) and that HFC is not being used by the NBN it makes no sense for them to use the HFC in the other parts of the exchange area (like Bateman/Bull Creek) since that would be a redesign to have both FTTP, NBN HFC, and Telstra HFC co-existing in close proximity.... what a mess!
Frankly I think the premises numbers used by NBN for Applecross (6APP), Victoria Park (6VIC) and South Perth (6SPT) which just pulled from an active database where the numbers are volatile anyway.
However from a technical and even economic point of view if 6APP-05 is in Build Prep for NBN FTTP (why would pits be replaced if they are going to use the existing HFC?) and that HFC is not being used by the NBN it makes no sense for them to use the HFC in the other parts of the exchange area
NBN is no longer being run by technical or economic points of view. It is political point of view that is running it. Managers in NBN will be trying to minimise FTTP because that is what their political masters want.
Pit/ pipe work being done along Coomoora rd Ardross/mt pleasant today , looks like they were getting it roped for hauling as well .
Starting to see a lot of NBN advertising on Real Estate around Applecross area for rentals and properties.. Big selling point considering that suburb is future proof now.
Starting to see a lot of NBN advertising on Real Estate around Applecross area for rentals and properties.. Big selling point considering that suburb is future proof now.
My partner and I just bought our first apartment in Applecross (6APP-01), real estate agent didn't seem to know what the NBN was (despite the construction in the street).
real estate agent didn't seem to know what the NBN was
Silly bugger he is, they should keep up to date with these things if they want to add a bit more to their % sell.
Maybe lucky for you they didn't know :P
Yep
The box is 6AP03-13. Does this mean 6AP-03 is getting closer to completion?
Alas not as close as 6APP-01 which I think has seen the FDH cabinets for over 6 months now and still not yet RFS.
Just drove along Cranford ave exit from the freeway for the 2nd time this week. 1st time there were several crews digging up all along the roundabout with Bateman and pits along the street. Today very busy with serious NBN works and heavy duty gear and vehicles closer to the Brentwood IGA. You certanly can't complain.
Alas not as close as 6APP-01 which I think has seen the FDH cabinets for over 6 months now and still not yet RFS.
And still no connections to 'single dwellings'. The MDUs are being completed � when is the contract for SDU to be started? I'm thinking it won't be until end of 2015 before RFS at this rate.......
And still no connections to 'single dwellings'. The MDUs are being completed � when is the contract for SDU to be started? I'm thinking it won't be until end of 2015 before RFS at this rate.......
On the one hand kudos for NBN Co to get contractors who can get some real work happening in the area. On the otherhand why is NBN twiddling its fingers when it comes to the lead-in connections?
Why not hire more contractors, you know one bunch for MDUs, another for SDUs, and maybe have two groups working two areas (6APP-01 and 6APP-03) at the same time to hook people up asap so the revenue can start rolling in?
This seems to be the most painful part of the process and just makes it so easy for people to be convinced that FTTN is better than FTTP since once the FTTN Build is complete (and quicker since it just has to go the node) then it is done. Conspiracy theorists would probably say that is the whole idea, pity if they are right.
Spoke to one of the guys working on Bateman ave who said they're putting fibre in and that once it's all done, supposedly third party contractors may need to be brought in to connect it to the premises? Unless I understood him wrong.
Said a few more months and once available, letters will be dropped to the premises.
Looks like they are working from the river back to Riesley St way, with both the conduits & fibre.
Lots of pipes being laid around Disney st, down the back of the school and around the nearby streets. Watched the ditch witch bore under a road, and how they tracked the power and the very long drill bit was interesting.
it goes about 3 � 5m underbround so it didn't disturb the road, cars drove over oblivious.
They had replaced the older access ducts? with new ones, and lots of footpath dug up next to them so they could send the bore / drill bit along.
Once they have finished this stage, hopefully the next time we see them again will be for the fibre deployment.
Lots of pipes being laid around Disney st, down the back of the school and around the nearby streets. Watched the ditch witch bore under a road, and how they tracked the power and the very long drill bit was interesting.
it goes about 3 � 5m underbround so it didn't disturb the road, cars drove over oblivious.
They had replaced the older access ducts? with new ones, and lots of footpath dug up next to them so they could send the bore / drill bit along.
Once they have finished this stage, hopefully the next time we see them again will be for the fibre deployment.
Drilling the new ducts and pulling in the fibre are being done as two separate activities, may even be different contractors for all I know.
In my street the drilling was done before Christmas and there's still no fibre in the pits.
There is a square box installed outside No.8, Cromer Road (6APP-04)
When it switched on, then we can start apply for connection?
Fingercross..
Has anybody noticed the pink, red and blue PVC piping all along the south-west corner of the intersection Murdoch Drive and Leach Highway? Looks exactly the same as what NBN have been doing north of Leach Hwy in 6APP-04. Assuming these are NBN related this would be the initial foray south of Leach Highway (the PVC markers are along the north-east edge of 6APP-05 which is currently in Build Prep and across from 6APP-04). I do remember similar PVC pipes on the north side of the Cranford Ave / Bateman Rd roundabout (coming from 6APP-03) about a month before 6APP-04 was declared for Build last year.
It will be interesting to see what the next NBN monthly Build/Build Prep update due this week will indicate. Probably not this month but next month I expect 6APP-05 to go to Build and 6APP-06 to go to Build Prep.
If you live in 6APP-06 (Murdoch, Bateman): Have you received any notices regarding upgrade to Telstra infrastructure in your area or seen any Contek contractors or Telstra workers suddenly interested in the pits around your street? This is the first sign of Build Prep and will usually happen a month before the NBN maps get updated to confirm this.
It will be interesting to see what the next NBN monthly Build/Build Prep update due this week will indicate. Probably not this month but next month I expect 6APP-05 to go to Build and 6APP-06 to go to Build Prep.
Monthly NBN update has just been released and no changes to 6APP FSA so hopefully the updates for next month (which means the work starts this month) will show 6APP-05 go to Build and 6APP-06 go to Build Prep. I think that is all we can expect for the next few months.
I live in Connelly way and just thought id update the thread!
Nbnco contractors on the side of the entrance into gill st off Marcus av!
Spoke to the lad there (I said nbn mate? How long till I can shove my ISP it's 6k 1.5mbps?) and he said 10 months from now! That puts mynbn site out (rfs was sept this year) by about three months...
At least it's inbound eh!
Novel
Struggling with low speed everyday.
The RFS is taking longer than expected.
Don't know if it's been posted by someone else already, but have just received a letter here in 6APP-01 stating:
"Our construction partner intends to install NBN equipment at your property between 16 March 2015 and 9 June 2015."
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Hey guys, I'm looking for a little bit of advice, I live in a reasonably sized MDU built in the past few years in 6APP-02 and as of a year after RFS there isn't any indication that this place will ever get cabled up and is stuck on service class 0.
NBNCo tells me to contact the body corporate, however they won't reply stating that I need to talk to my property manager (but I'm renting). Since we moved in we have asked the real estate to find out for us and so far we haven't got much more back than "we'll ask the owner" which seems to be leading nowhere, I'm kind of surprised that a real estate based in Applecross would have such a hard time with NBN queries.
Is there anywhere else I can contact to see if the body corporate have even registered the premises with NBNCo? I though that considering 6APP-01 has had MDU work done that perhaps we would be included at some point or at least had the fliers sent out asking body corporate to contact Daly but as far as I'm aware nothing like that has happened.
I haven't been able to find a single MDU in 6APP-02 that isn't SC0 according to the address checker(Nevermind, finally found a few small ones). I'm also wondering if anyone in an MDU in the area has been connected yet?
Don't know if it's been posted by someone else already, but have just received a letter here in 6APP-01 stating:
Which area of Applecross [the suburb] are you in? I believe Applecross far West [opposite Wireless Hill] was 'on air' a year or so ago.
"Our construction partner intends to install NBN equipment at your property between 16 March 2015 and 9 June 2015."
I would still like to know what happens if the contractor can't access the wall of your property (to install the PCD) without going over a gate or carport door (i.e. trespassing) and you are working during the weekdays. Is there a contact number or indication of what arrangements you would need to make in these cases?
Which area of Applecross [the suburb] are you in?
6APP-02 is south-west side (right down to Garden City I think), 6APP-01 is east side (all the way to Canning bridge, but north of Canning Hwy). And 6APP-02 has been RFS ever since the start of 2014, looks like 6APP-01 will go live mid 2015, about 18 months. Hope 6APP-03 won't take another 18 months!
Employing people to put a type of cable into the ground would be similar yes - but there are other costs such as the hubs, cabinets for the FTTH, getting that fibre back to Applecross, planning, office work etc.
but there are other costs such as the hubs, cabinets for the FTTH, getting that fibre back to Applecross, planning, office work etc.
but we do need to take into account nearby they rolled out NBN to a new housing division... so there is some infrastructure available.
Received a letter in the mail today from NBNCo, basically confirming that our address has been moved to an infill region, so that it isn't disconnected with the rest of 6APP-02 in a few months due to NBN not being available yet.
This will make things interesting, as in the NBN system viewed with Devoted's SQ checker and various RSPs, our address and a few other MDUs that were previously SC0 as of last week (but not all of them) now come up as SC2. I am 90% sure there is no PCD,ICD etc fitted anywhere in our complex and certainly not on my wall so I'm not sure why it's SC2 and not SC1. Of course it's entirely possible that they have sorted something else out, but with no communication from Body Corporate there is no way of knowing.
Hopefully the possible map update sheds a bit more light on the situation as it was updated on the 20th when everything was still SC0.
I have an install appointment anyway for Monday, so I will hopefully at least find out what's going on then, my RSP seems confident that it's simply listed as "work needs to be completed" and that they will do what they need but from what I've read installers only expect to do NTD installs as build drop is standard now which it wasn't when 02 went live. Perhaps the system is assuming build drop happened in 02 and when places go live it skips SC1?
Looks like 6APP-07 is now in build-prep according to the latest map update.
6APP-05 still showing as not started.
Looks like 6APP-07 is now in build-prep according to the latest map update.
6APP-05 still showing as not started.
Actually this is consistent with the Senate Committee meeting minutes as I reported:
whrl.pl/Regd3J
where only 6APP-07 was confirmed as going to FTTP even though all of 6APP-05, 6APP-06 and 6APP-07 were handed over to Telstra as the DP. Seems like NBN made a "mistake" when 6APP-05 went to Build Prep back in Nov 2014 and now have rectified it. However 6APP-07 is an HFC area and it is listed as going to Brownfields fibre which surely means 6APP-05 and 6APP-06 will also go to FTTP as these are all from the same Bateman exchange let alone the same FSA.
And also check out my post:
whrl.pl/RdFWC1
where the unofficial RFS dates in the dying throes of NBNv1 were moved to have 6APP-07 and 6APP-08 before 6APP-05 and 6APP-06 (i.e. the build out from the DA exchange). I suspect NBNv2 rediscovered these plans too late before allowing 6APP-05 to go to Build Prep.
So what does this all mean? 6APP-05 to 6APP-08 will go to FTTP but NBN stuffed up the sequencing of the FSAM builds and have had to push back 6APP-05 and move ahead with 6APP-07 first. Good news for 6APP-07, a relative disappointment for 6APP-05, but good news all round if we get FTTP rather than HFC in the area.
a relative disappointment for 6APP-05, but good news all round if we get FTTP rather than HFC in the area.
true that.
would be nice if i wasn't an old man by the time we the connections though.
based on previous track record i would have estimated ETA for any new builds as 2018.
6APP-07 still seems to be FTTP by the works going on.
Now official with the announcemment 6APP-07 is now in Build Prep. But so was 6APP-05 back in November before it disappeared.
Please let us know the moment you start see the coloured PVC pipes sticking out of the ground along street verges in Bull Creek as this is an indicator that the Build will soon follow (this was never the case for 6APP-05, just pits being replaced and ducts being inspected).
I suspect NBN has redesigned the Build sequence for south of Leach highway to (sensibly) work out from Bateman exchange, so 6APP-07 would be first.
But would 6APP-05 be next (just finished Build Prep but 6APP-06 is in the way)? Or 6APP-06 (next to 6APP-07 across the freeway but needs to go to Build Prep first) or indeed 6APP-08 (logical continuation of 6APP-07 but I don't think the rodding and roping went that far).
I would really love to know how the FSAMs are interconnected and the Build sequence, especially when exchange boundaries are crossed.
Now official with the announcemment 6APP-07 is now in Build Prep. But so was 6APP-05 back in November before it disappeared.
On a hunch I did a Telstra service status for 6149 (Bull Creek, Leeming) and golly gosh it appears there may be a cable outage in this area and I am not surprised ... why? ... because the same thing happened in Winthrop during Nov/Dec when this area was in Build Prep. And the cable at our place went out at least two times (or was it three?).
So does mean the Build Prep is secretly upgrading the HFC infrastructure (outages to split nodes in preparation for the NBN takeover, etc.) or that this is simply a part of the Build Prep in HFC areas these outages are common (although I don't know why since landline phones are not affected)? In Winthrop all I saw were new Telstra pits, the visible HFC light green pillars (the nodes) all looked the same and untouched to me.
Yeah, we've had atleast one cable outage on Bass Road - took out fox for 24 hours.
I did see your post about the estimates PeteP and that just back ups what I've heard from Telstra staff late last year that we were going to be getting fibre. I'll let anyone know if I see pipes being installed. Pit replacement look like they've finished south of Parry Ave. Some pits have tripled in size which is good.
Last couple of days we've had NBN techs in our street (we're in the already activated 6APP-02 zone). Asked them what they were doing as our area has been live for over a year and he said that they were doing the lead ins and installing the outside connection boxes to every house. Obviously those of us that already applied for NBN had both the outside lead in and the inside equipment installed when we applied for connection but it seems now they are doing the lead-ins as part getting the area RFS. As this approach wasn't taken in the earlier rollout, they are now back-filling everyone else's lead ins.
Excited to see Green Fibre being pulled through the ducts outside my house today (Marmion St Booragoon). They seem to be only a week or two behind the team putting new conduits in.
Asked them what they were doing as our area has been live for over a year and he said that they were doing the lead ins and installing the outside connection boxes to every house.
That's reassuring that they are finally doing a build drop in this area, it'll make it easier for the rush of people signing up before the copper gets switched off in a few months. I really don't think most of the people around here have paid much attention to it, having a PCD installed on their wall may change that.
I had a no-show for my appointment on Monday, seems to be a very common occurrence now, but have a new one for tomorrow. Still no sign of PCDs being installed here but mynbn now shows our complex as rfs as well and we've all received flyers from iinet and tpg.
Saw one of the FTTP distribution cabinets opened up and being worked on by one of the white van guys today (the one in Bluegum Lake park). When the beige box was opened it didn't have any cables hooked up as yet that I could see, so I'm hoping he was hooking the main fibre up into it in readiness for the lead in work later. Didn't see any more little diggers up Strickland St today so I'm wondering if they have moved on elsewhere. Must be due for lead in cable around Bateman Rd to start soon?
I'm wondering if they have moved on elsewhere
Well 6APP-05 has diseappeared from the map completely even though there is evidence of serious remediation (pits being replaced and all that) completed back in February. But 6APP-07 on the other side just went to Build Prep and according to jxeeno will go to Build next month (and that is fast if it is true).
Not sure if I believe this though.
Any NBN or Telstra activity at all in Winthrop, Murdoch, Bateman, Bull Creek, Leeming? This is where it is most interesting since we don't know whether we are still getting FTTP or HFC now.
Bull Creek - lots of activity. All pits have been cleaned and replaced if required. 6APP-07 is getting FTTP. Telstra has the contract to complete the works, not EDI.
6APP-07 is getting FTTP. Telstra has the contract to complete the works, not EDI.
Well 6APP-05 was in the same situation back in November and then got removed from the map. We have all new pits which are going nowhere fast at the moment. My understanding is that Telstra has/had a contract for 6APP-05, 6APP-06 and 6APP-07 but I am not sure what is happening to the former two SAMs (and 6APP-06 never made it to Build Prep).
If you have inside information from discussions with the workers on what is happening west of the freeway in Winthrop/Murdoch/Bateman please do tell. Even jxeeno (via NBN insiders) has no information on what is happening there, but I think Telstra do! At the moment only 6APP-07 is getting FTTP. I can only assume NBN (or Telstra) realised that is where they have to start the FTTP build (not 6APP-05).
The skeptics/pessimists believe the rest will get HFC and only Bull Creek was lucky to get FTTP which makes no sense to me (it would make more sense if Bull Creek together with the other SAMs in the area with HFC were getting HFC, singling out Bull Creek for FTTP only is illogical, but then we are talking about a public company spending $700000 on a new logo).
Any NBN or Telstra activity at all in Winthrop, Murdoch, Bateman, Bull Creek, Leeming? This is where it is most interesting since we don't know whether we are still getting FTTP or HFC now.
Haven't seen any activity in Bateman for a long time.
The skeptics/pessimists believe the rest will get HFC and only Bull Creek was lucky to get FTTP which makes no sense to me
Agreed.
I reckon it'll happen � it'll just take time for 05, 06.
Haven't seen any activity in Bateman for a long time.
I saw a bit of pit remediation about 6 months ago, thats about it. Since then nothing.
So I am looking at that brown area below completed one in Applecross. When its estimated to go live?
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