Hi Petep, if my house used to have telstra/foxtel installed but I demolished the house and rebuild.
I read somewhere that it is a requirement with any new developments (including I supposed rebuilds) that the builder needs to install the appropriate conduit/duct for Telstra, as they would for electrical and plumbing (telecomms should be no different). Such a new conduit will certainly carry the coax or fibre cable (or both). A licensed builder should be aware of this.
Hi Petep, I saw a "white electric box covered" saying NBN beside my smart wiring box system. I presume that might be the conduit you are talking about where the conduit is linked somewhere outside the property for future cable?
Optus is very congested I've found south of the river. I've broken two contracts with Optus with ease due to congestion. I'd go find another ISP. You won't have any downtime. Thanks to your NTU.
Cease Sale Commencement Dates Schedule
This schedule sets out the Cease Sale Commencement Date for each NBN rollout region. Generally, Cease Sale will commence in a region 10 Business Days after the region�s Ready for Service Date/Disconnection Commencement Date.
http://telstrawholesale.com.
6APP-04 Brentwood, Mount Pleasant, Booragoon WA Applecross CSA 02-Oct-15
6APP-07 Bull Creek WA Applecross CSA 15-Feb-16
Source: http://telstrawholesale.com.a
PCD installation occurring on Shirley Ave Mount Pleasant today. 6APP-04.
PCD installation occurring on Shirley Ave Mount Pleasant today. 6APP-04.
getting closer to where i am on Bateman Rd!
PCD installed Disney St Brentwood late this afternoon � woo hoo. Took about 90 minutes despite being a back house on the block. The lead in was still pretty good, checked it with water flow from the tap, pushed the rod through & pulled fibre back from the pit by the road. And then attached to the wall about 90 odd minutes. Now to call my ISP and wait I guess.
The 6APP04 status hasn't turn to RFS.
Don't wait for the NBN website to update. If you want to connect and your PCD is installed and it's past the notional RFS date contact the RSP of your choice and try to place an order for one of their NBN plans. They can tell if the area is really RFS and place an order with NBN for you. I did this and 4 days later I was installed and my NBN service was live well over a week before my area (6APP01) was officially declared RFS. Even then NBN backdated the date to match the original RFS date. Also despite subscribing to the NBN email when your address is RFS I never get one. In other words, the left hand and the right don't know what each other is doing. What matters is if you can get connected and get a decent broadband connection. That definitely won't happen till you place an order with an RSP so try it on and see what happens.
Don't wait for the NBN website to update. If you want to connect and your PCD is installed and it's past the notional RFS date contact the RSP of your choice and try to place an order for one of their NBN plans.
Cheers, thanks alot..will do so.
called iinet, they said 6APP04 not available for applications yet
Buggar, was going to do that today. Net is slow slow today.
Same happened to Skymesh... they said it is not ready on NBN.co
Same happened to Skymesh... they said it is not ready on NBN.co
From mynbn.info:
In NBN Fibre areas, this status is triggered when nbn� passes at least 90% of premises and also completes installing between 30% to 50% of customer drops
so i guess, not yet.. theres still a lot of digging and houses without pcd boxes..
Spoke to nbn contractor doing the digging for 6app04 on Friday arvo and he said the drill is flat out busy for those that need work done to get their PCD installed... In Connelly way it's right at the edge of the boundary for nbn so will probably be among the last to get units installed � lottery of timing though! He said the guys installing for 6app04 have until middle of October to complete installations...
anyone in 6APP-04 tried calling any providers today?
where are NBN contractors installing PCD boxes today?
anyone in 6APP-04 tried calling any providers today?
My friend at work who lives in the same area rang TPG on last Friday, TPG will install his PCD and NTD this week.
However, Skymesh still cannot install nor book my NTD due to it is not turned on yet.
My friend at work who lives in the same area rang TPG on last Friday, TPG will install his PCD and NTD this week.
Does his address pop up as ready for service on the nbn website?
I called TPG today and they said not available yet.
Does his address pop up as ready for service on the nbn website?
I called TPG today and they said not available yet.
No i don't think...he is on Pulo Rd.
I saw a heap in Sicklemore St Brentwood, and also on Disney St (the western side) this morning (same guy that did mine last Thursday on Disney St).
im booked in for the 7th also for NTD install.
called on Friday arvo to order NBN, NBN came on the same day to install PCD box.
im booked in for the 7th also for NTD install.
Contacted Paul on the Skymesh Whirpool page, he organised and had the sales to ring me yesterday. Finally, booked in on the 9th Oct with Skymesh.
My PCD got installed yesterday as well on Cranford Ave. Still waiting on TPG to get me an appointment with the technician for the installation.
so in the middle of bateman they have decided to redo the entire drainage/sewerage system with heavy duty drills etc.
one would have thought it would be working hand in hand with the NBN guys but you know that would make too much sense.
so in the middle of bateman they have decided to redo the entire drainage/sewerage system with heavy duty drills etc.
one would have thought it would be working hand in hand with the NBN guys but you know that would make too much sense.
Completely separate companies/etc. Sure it would make sense... just like when Western Power was changing suburbs to underground power they should have run fibre (and not just their Bright network experiment) in conjunction with Telstra or whoever. Would have given coverage to a lot of premises over the years. Sadly it seems the logistics of getting companies to work together seems to just fall into the "too hard" basket.
Anyone seen any PCD installs in 6APP-07?
Actually, noticed today all of Bass Road was completed.
Just reading of reports of completed maintenance and service interruptions to Telstra cable in Winthrop, Murdoch and Leeming. Since I am away from home can anybody in the area confirm of any changes (e.g. from QAM64 to QAM256)? This may be due to the preparations Telstra are making for NBN to take over the HFC and would indicate this will be happening sooner rather than later. Normally Telstra only do upgrades or maintenance in areas with congestion which I don't think is the case with Bigpond cable in 6150/6149.
Got my appnt booked for Bateman rd with skymesh! Can't wait!
This may be due to the preparations Telstra are making for NBN to take over the HFC and would indicate this will be happening sooner rather than later. Normally Telstra only do upgrades or maintenance in areas with congestion which I don't think is the case with Bigpond cable in 6150/6149.
there has been a lot of work being done on the bateman cable too, around Corpus. So something is afoot.
Anyone seen any PCD installs in 6APP-07?
Is the PCD the connection to the house? They were starting mine this morning (near Camm Ave).
6App-04 Brentwood...
So... NBN Tech's came early today :)
Skymesh & NBN to the rescue of my pathetic previous ADSL speeds!
Skymesh & NBN to the rescue of my pathetic previous ADSL speeds!
You are the 2%, congratulations :D
6App-04 appointment today 1pm-5pm, still no one has turned up...
6App-04 appointment today 1pm-5pm, still no one has turned up...
They've still got over an hour before the end of the appointment window...
They've still got over an hour before the end of the appointment window...
30min left now still no show or no phone call.. Called nbn they see no updates to my appointment..
6App-04 appointment today 1pm-5pm, still no one has turned up...
The guys who were meant to do mine booked 1pm-5pm but rocked up 11am, said they only had 1 more job as got thru a lot in the morning and then that's it...
got it installed! they arrived right at 5pm...
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4725334958
no congestion issues in Applecross area which is good
there has been a lot of work being done on the bateman cable too, around Corpus. So something is afoot.
I assume you mean HFC cable and not green fibre cable? The Telstra service status showed a completed maintenance in Murdoch (which I assume includes Bateman) while still showing ongoing interruptions in Leeming.
Looks like NBN was prepared to pay Telstra $$$$ to bring their HFC network up to scratch (fit for purpose) rather than continue FTTP which seems to have been a relatively smooth operation in 6APP-07.
The guys who were meant to do mine booked 1pm-5pm but rocked up 11am, said they only had 1 more job as got thru a lot in the morning and then that's it...
I asked to book me on this week but only Friday is available...Mine is on Friday morning.. hope everything goes well...
If you have had good Bigpond cable expect it to actually get worse before it gets better with regular maintenance and service interruption downtimes over the next 12-18 months.
Now Telstra service status reports a cable outage in Winthrop. Since I am OS I am blissfully ignorant but now not looking forward to coming back with flaky Bigpond cable over the next few months before NBN take over and make it even worse.
Yes HFC can be as good as FTTP, but only with D3.1 and Bigpond removed, which won't happen for another 3 years at least. Who is prepared to wait that long and suffer?
I do not expect them to even bother remedying that situation at all.
It's been mentioned that they would.
Had 2 technicians install my NTD not 30 minutes ago. Everything was smooth until they finished and informed me that the line has no connection (optical light red) and that someone else would have to come out to fix it either today or tomorrow. One more set back... hopefully iinet fibre team answers my call and it can be resolved sooner rather than later.
Dennis Jensen is talking about NBN again...
http://www.dennisjensen.com.
Always an amusing read.
So tech support called me back to inform that there is some sort of external light defect on my line that is preventing my connection. The date to fix the issue has been set at the 30th of November.... its like having a new car sitting in your garage that you cant drive :( although the issue could be resolved anywhere between now and then.
Was expecting NBN today, to do the inside stuff (ntd??) in mount pleasant
1-5pm........and a no show........"trouble on the multi port" .....claims the iiNet fella.....blollocks service from NBN
1-5pm........and a no show
That's a shame. They turned up 1hr early to my place last week in Booragoon and had us online in 30mins
Oh how quiet it's gone on this thread!! When was the rfs date??! ;-)
Those on iinet how are you finding your speeds? dad is in Mount pleasant and was finding iinet to be woeful on his 100/40 plan. I suggest switching to Telstra as I'm on them (I'm on same POI as I live in Applecross) and find I get excellent speeds at all times. Dad signed up on his 2nd port and did back to back testing and found his telstra link out performed iinet across the board and especially on international testing. I know there's a submarine cable fault but seems Telstra has a substantial better back haul to cope atm.
Skymesh also have very good capacity on Applecross POI and dont have lock in contracts.
I am so so so salty.
First half of 2016
Thanks
Oh how quiet it's gone on this thread!! When was the rfs date??!
Not much to talk about, it's all either tales from the previously built areas, speculation on new lib contracts and maybe a little salt. And I would think all 3 have been somewhat exhausted at this point. Labor era contracts being finished, new lib areas announced somewhat, or at least we can somewhat reliably guess what they will be.
Not much to talk about, it's all either tales from the previously built areas, speculation on new lib contracts and maybe a little salt.
True, after waiting since 2012 for the real NBN in Winthrop my 24 contract with Telstra cable expired and I renewed for another 24 months. After all what is the difference between NBN cable and Telstra cable (other that waiting another 12-18 months for the former) ? And from the various posts the high cost of the NBN CVC/AVC means the cheap RSPs provide an NBN FTTP service little better than ADSL and the more reliable ones (Skymesh, Internode and Telstra) cost the same as Telstra cable anyway (plus with Telstra cable bundle you get to keep your 24x7 landline rather than a more unreliable VoIP you have to get with NBN).
Are there issues with VoIP services?
Are there issues with VoIP services?
Relies on the vagaries of the RSP's equipment given it is a software phone rather than a hardware phone. Also not sure if location based services (e.g., emergency calls, booking/calling a taxi) , monitored alarms, etc. work properly with VoIP.
If VoIP is implemented properly and adopted the standards set used for PSTN/ISDN the service could be similar. Well known VoIP suppliers don't do this though. iiNet's offering forces you to waives all your rights because they don't want to try to support the same type of standards. I presume it's because they can't guarantee it � you'd hope with the NBN NTU this changes as it's implemented properly.
VoIP is reliable, better and more flexible when set up and used on stable networks.
Wow over a month and 6APP thread is totally dead!
Went for a walk along Parry Ave yesterday from the Bateman and checked out one of the residential areas (Gribble Rd to Orbell Way) and noticed pretty much all houses with a clear frontage had an NBN PCD install, and most lawns appeared intact too.
So have all PCDs been installed in 6APP-07?
And why the holdup to RFS until mid Feb 2016?
It will be interesteding to see what the take-up rate will be in 6APP-07 (compared to 6APP-04) given most premises have Bigpond cable and fast ADSL being so close to Bateman exchange.
FYI, take-up rate in 6APP-04 just under 3 months since RFS is already at 25% (see http://www.mynbn.info/rollout/6APP-04), compared to 6APP-01 which is only 37% after just over 6 months (area surrounds Applecross exchange so good ADSL in 6APP-01 perhaps?).
area surrounds Applecross exchange so good ADSL in 6APP-01 perhaps?).
Yeah speeds were good in that area (i think we were getting ~16Mbps)
So have all PCDs been installed in 6APP-07?
And why the holdup to RFS until mid Feb 2016?
Where next after 6APP-07? Are they going to stop at Karel Avenue and will they ever start work in Willetton?
Where next after 6APP-07? Are they going to stop at Karel Avenue and will they ever start work in Willetton?
If you have access to Bigpond cable the Build for NBN HFC should commence in this area in the first half of 2016:
State....... WA
Region....Applecross
Areas where construction scheduled to commence before end Sep 2018
................Bateman Bull Creek Leeming Murdoch North Lake Winthrop
Estimated number of premises within areas
............ ...11100
Anticipated technology
................HFC
Expected time of first site to commence construction
................H1-2016
Otherwise if you are outside that you will get FTTN in the second half of 2017 if in the Riverton region.
Check it out: http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn
And why the holdup to RFS until mid Feb 2016?
I've been looking for the reason for this. I can't find out why.
I have not seen much work myself in APP07 � just gone quiet since the PCB installs.
Where is the mid Feb 2016 date from? We haven't had any letter since the first one. I can't quite recall what date that had, but Mid Feb might have been at the later end of the range.
I've been looking for the reason for this. I can't find out why.
Maybe it's my house , still in construction phase :) which coincidentally will be ready around Feb
Wow over a month and 6APP thread is totally dead!
We are too busy streaming tv and downloading :)
Checked the nbnco website and all the map data is not there anymore.
What happen? Another "big delay" coming?
Checked the nbnco website and all the map data is not there anymore.
No the map has now become even more transparent than before. The information is still there. Type an address in Winthrop and the "the NBN has not commenced yet" (lie! it was derailed for 6APP-05 in May), type in address in Bull Creek (6APP-07) and it correctly states the NBN is underway. You just don't get the pretty colors anymore to confuse people, that is all.
I have not seen much work myself in APP07 � just gone quiet since the PCB installs
Went quiet for a few weeks now. Maybe it is all done. Quick question, once my house is completed in Feb, what is the process to get my PCD installed?
Cheers.
Not long to go for APP-07. I'll be excitedly putting in 3 orders with Skymesh on the 16th of Feb. Bring on 100mb.
First possible sign of the remainder of 6APP getting NBN HFC:
whrl.pl/RexmO3
Strictly still to do with Telstra Bigpond (not NBN) , but it is the worst kept secret that Telstra are only bothering to upgrade their HFC network on behalf of NBN.
Would any ISPs other than telstra offer the HFC option, though?
Would any ISPs other than telstra offer the HFC option, though?
Any RSP who wants to survive post-FTTP better offer services, certainly on HFC if not also FTTN.
Remember that FTTP will only be 20%, HFC around 35% and FTTN just over 35% each (see page 39 of http://www.nbnco.com.au/conte
FYI 1, If you look over the Skymesh thread the main issue facing smaller RSPs are the costs in setting themselves up on a new POI, not the access technology per se. So we should be safe as we are part of the 6APP POI which means access to RSPs like Skymesh, Amnet, etc. which only serve this POI now already.
FYI 2, On the otherhand the access technologies (and/or also CVC/AVC charges) are now forcing RSPs to streamline (all) their plans and:
- Treat the 100/40 as a premium tier costing $30 more than 25/5, previously it was only $20 more, probably because of the CVC/AVC costs
- Removing the 50/20 speed tier and only offering the 25/5 and up to 100/40, certainly because of the variable speeds one gets with FTTN (only 25/5 is guaranteed).
Any RSP who wants to survive post-FTTP better offer services, certainly on HFC if not also FTTN.
. So we should be safe as we are part of the 6APP POI which means access to RSPs like Skymesh, Amnet, etc. which only serve this POI now already.
My thanks.
So it seems the option is to either go for Telstra now, for wait until the HFC is completed and take Skymesh/Amnet. Although not sure when that will be, but guessing in a year's time. I may just have to take the ETC or go casual.
APP-07 should go live tomorrow according to NBN info. Let us know if you get any orders in.
6APP-07 still not ready for service. Was hoping for some long weekend goodness next week.
6APP-07 still not ready for service. Was hoping for some long weekend goodness next week.
Maybe NBN are finally confused over the fact 6APP-07 is in the Bateman HFC footprint and should be part of the H1 2016 NBN HFC rollout happening in the rest of the area without realising it is been waiting to go live for FTTP for the past week or I should I say the last two months?
Just got an email saying I'm ready to go 6app-07. Camm Avenue Bull Creek.
Now the fun part.....stick with my isp or wade through the offers I've been saving to read that have been filling the letterbox....
Finally, 6APP-07 is live.
Will be ordering two services tomorrow morning.
I'm still not convinced that H1 2016 rollout for HFC is going to be in H1.... I'm even struggling to believe even 2016.
Got any news I might be unaware of Pete?
part of the H1 2016 NBN HFC rollout happening in the rest of the area
Question is what will be the incentive to switch to NBN HFC when it is ready?
RSP You can choose (not an issue if you are happy with Telstra, otherwise big reason)
Cost Congestion free, reliable NBN plans are more expensive, as expensive as Telstra cable (but this may change)
US 2.4Mbps --> 40Mbps (if you host a website, use cloud backup, or have HD webcams for remote monitoring when you are away this will be excellent, otherwise not sure)
DS 115Mbps --> 98 Mbps (if you are a speed fiend this will be a problem, otherwise no different)
Voice Landline --> VoIP (quality may not be as good, problem if you have monitored alarms, etc.)
Thanks.
US 2.4Mbps --> 40Mbps (if you host a website, use cloud backup, or have HD webcams for remote monitoring when you are away this will be excellent, otherwise not sure)
If NBN HFC is going to cost significantly more, I dont see any reason at this point to pay for higher upload speed.
I've just signed up to go from Telstra HFC to Skymesh NBN. Not really sure there will be much benefit. Main appeal is being able to choose someone other than Telstra. Upload speed will be nice for working from home or putting things on youtube. I actually wasn't on the higher speed option on HFC, but will be paying for a faster connection with NBN to feel like I'm getting something from it. Phone calls also seem cheaper than Telstra's base option, it was slightly annoying to have to remember to use mobiles instead of the home phone to save money.
Not sure if the HFC will be turned off eventually in NBN areas. There was a letter saying we will need to switch eventually, but may just be referring to the phone line.
I actually wasn't on the higher speed option on HFC, but will be paying for a faster connection with NBN to feel like I'm getting something from it.
I felt the same when we thought we were getting FTTP. With NBN HFC I don't think I will bother since I don't feel it is a real upgrade, 25/5 will be good enough for my purposes when I am forced to move off from Telstra HFC.
Not sure if the HFC will be turned off eventually in NBN areas.
Not as long as it has to provide Foxtel service for those who have Foxtel cable.
it was slightly annoying to have to remember to use mobiles instead of the home phone to save money.
It will be more annoying for us since most providers lock their VoIP forcing you to use their router (or as with Skymesh/Internode you have to pay more just to get a phone service), another reason why I will stick with Telstra HFC and copper landline voice calls, and keep bridging to my router where I have more control. Mobile is not an option since we have friends/family who call us and I am not sure they will be that happy to pay to call a mobile. Something like Whatsapp or Wechat is, of course, the way to go, but not everybody uses that (especially older family).
I've seen groups of Telstra workers inspecting pits across Winthrop (6APP-05) this past week. Around 3 Telstra vans going from street to street. If I'm on foot and see them I'll ask what they're up to.
Hi guys, just wondering if there's any ETA on updates on the site? It says it was last updated in Jan which is a while ago.
I've seen groups of Telstra workers inspecting pits across Winthrop (6APP-05) this past week. Around 3 Telstra vans going from street to street. If I'm on foot and see them I'll ask what they're up to.
Nothing to get excited about, we are supposed to get NBN HFC early next year, which those of us with Telstra cable have already, so nothing really new.
I've seen groups of Telstra workers inspecting pits across Winthrop (6APP-05) this past week.
<cynic mode> Those would be the same pits that were inspected in 2013 before we were supposed to go FTTP. It's only been another three years since. </cynic mode>
<cynic mode> Those would be the same pits that were inspected in 2013 before we were supposed to go FTTP. It's only been another three years since. </cynic mode>
Inspected in early 2013 when we first entered FTTP build, disappeared from maps in Sept 2013, then inspected again in early 2014, appeared as Build Prep for FTTP with remediation in late 2014, and then removed from maps in April 2015, and now one year later they are inspecting again. A real goldmine for Telstra for sure!
Yes... we're living the coalition dream..... I wish I'd kept my T$ shares :)
I've seen groups of Telstra workers inspecting pits across Winthrop (6APP-05) this past week. Around 3 Telstra vans going from street to street. If I'm on foot and see them I'll ask what they're up to.
Spotted on Parry Ave, Bateman yesterday too.
5 vans this morning in Winthrop � up around on Aitken Drive.
I think part of that area doesn't have HFC � correct me if I'm wrong....
If that is the case, then I guess there will be some infill...
5 vans this morning in Winthrop � up around on Aitken Drive.
Any other activity in Winthrop/Murdoch/Bateman these days?
Apparently everywhere else seems to have some activity already:
whrl.pl/ReBMrC
The installation is going on for me in WA in the 6164 Postcode or 6JTS rollout area. ... This would be part of the HFC rollout as well... They just finished installing the NBN box on the outside of my house.
whrl.pl/ReBAyi
I'm in the 6JDL-60 SAM and have seen Telstra vans installing HFC to houses that were missed in the initial rollout.
Maybe Telstra/NBN just realised they have taken on more that they can chew if there are patches with no lead-ins or even no cable along the street. I suspect areas like Ocean Reef / Yangebup are newer estates and less problematic to run lead-ins and new cable compared to the more stolid 70s/80s built houses in our area!
Any other activity in Winthrop/Murdoch/Bateman these days?
I haven't seen anything since I reported that last lot � Ive been away for the last week and a bit.
Only got out for a ride this morning (which is when I've seen them before), but didn't see any vans around.
I'll keep any eye out and report back on anything.
Spotted a Telstra technician with a clipboard at Georgian Rise, Willetton checking out the pits. He said he is checking them for NBN. I don't know why he would be doing that when that area has Telstra fibre for Foxtel unless the fibre runs through those pits also.
Yep, we are in Leeming just off Beasley Rd near South St end.
We had the Telstra guys checking the street today, I went and had a chat, and they said they are doing an audit in preparation for NBN, he said they have a team of about 15 vans that travel from area to area taking notes, pictures etc to report what they find. He told me that most of the surrounding area has cable, but our street doesn't (as I'm well aware with a poor 3500k service currently...)
He also said that generally speaking it takes about 12 months to have an active service from this stage. Not sure if that changes with the use of HCF or not, and if they will back fill the streets without it, or use FTTN...?
Still waiting..
He also said that generally speaking it takes about 12 months to have an active service from this stage.
Nobody has any idea since NBN is only now discovering how many streets require HFC fill-ins with 100% new lead-ins as well. Expect this all to surface later in the year leading to an increase in both the overall Build costs for and delays in activation for HFC areas. But 12 months would be about right though, which is no different than FTTP.
Ditch Witch and PVC pipe markers seen on corner of Farrington and Casserly (near freeway) in Leeming. Unknown if NBN related.
Addresses that are in a HFC area will be connected with a new HFC rollout, not FTTN. There's probably about 30% of addresses that are currently being passed with existing HFC that require new leadin cables run.
He also said that generally speaking it takes about 12 months to have an active service from this stage.
I think Bateman has been "12 months from active" 3 or 4 times so far.
Maybe Telstra/NBN just realised they have taken on more that they can chew if there are patches with no lead-ins or even no cable along the street. I suspect areas like Ocean Reef / Yangebup are newer estates and less problematic to run lead-ins and new cable compared to the more stolid 70s/80s built houses in our area!
half of bateman doesn't have HFC so it will be interesting to see how much remediation is done and how long until the timing gets pushed back again on bateman. Though i'm looking at finder.com.au and there is no information at all available on 6APP-06?
Use 6APP-60, 61, 62, 63 & 64
doesn't work?
They are the new HFC ones, NBN may not have them online yet?
They are the new HFC ones, non may not have them online yet?
These are currently only "known" by Telstra and can be found in:
https://www.telstrawholes
on the Expected RFS sheet, just search for BATEMAN.
finder.com.au (mynbn) only has these as 6APP-XX under Planned Brownfields for 6APP
Nice, just received a letter from the nbn stating they will begin inspections between 04/5 and 29/6 in Murdoch.
Nice, just received a letter from the nbn stating they will begin inspections between 04/5 and 29/6 in Murdoch.
So first we have Telstra doing the inspections and these are followed by NBN? Any other areas off Bateman exchange received similar letters from NBN and are these before or after you already had Telstra vans flying through?
So first we have Telstra doing the inspections and these are followed by NBN? Any other areas off Bateman exchange received similar letters from NBN and are these before or after you already had Telstra vans flying through?
Sorry to be specific, the letter came from NBN but ISGM will be doing the inspection on behalf of Telstra.
Sorry to be specific, the letter came from NBN but ISGM will be doing the inspection on behalf of Telstra.
Well we have reports of Telstra vans visiting areas in Winthrop, Leeming and Willetton. I guess they decided it would be nice to spend some more money to send flyers out now too, with the election looming that would make sense. I would expect any and all NBN activity will now be visibly advertised over the next two months in all areas.
These are currently only "known" by Telstra and can be found in:
https://www.telstrawholes
on the Expected RFS sheet, just search for BATEMAN.
finder.com.au (mynbn) only has these as 6APP-XX under Planned Brownfields for 6APP
ah ok right.
So 2017 March is the fairytale due date
Another Ditch Witch on Farrington, this time at the corner with Findlay (petrol station side). Conduits for backhaul?
Telstra has already completed audit, ISGM are doing the construction of new leadins.
Another Ditch Witch on Farrington, this time at the corner with Findlay (petrol station side). Conduits for backhaul?
Nah, something else
Telstra has already completed audit, ISGM are doing the construction of new leadins.
Yes that would make sense to have notification in the mail for lead-ins rather than just inspection, which wouldn't take as long as:
Nice, just received a letter from the nbn stating they will begin inspections between 04/5 and 29/6 in Murdoch.
So I guess Murdoch will the first to get NBN HFC then!
Well, they are back in our street again, second time in 9 days....
The only difference this time is that they brought a terra vac truck, apart from that it looks the same as last time, checking pits taking pics etc... ?
cleaning out pits full of sand to finish the audit job that couldn't be done on the initial visit
Just seen an NBN crew digging around a pit on the Murdoch Chase side of Farrington Road (corner of Murdoch drive). Seen a lot of activity over the past few weeks there, but the first time I've seen NBN signage.
SCS crew also feeding in black cable from a huge reel into a Telstra pit on South Street (corner of Murdoch drive, Bateman side). Not sure if that work is NBN-related.
Just saw at least 10 Telstra vans parked in Westmorland Drive, just South of South Street, in Leeming. They told me they were doing surveys for the NBN. I didn't ask for more details.
HFC audit there is completed today .. maybe bar some rework. Enjoy your second rate high speed internet :(
3 years later, worse technology, locked to 1 ISP company only (probably), no BYO modem (probably)
cancelled a "3 month" build prep for this...............
and it probably won't be much better than 120/2.4. QAM256 might be nice to have but still...
something something three word slogan1
Oh and, what is going to happen to our phones? Are we going to be forced to VoIP now?
Got the NBN Installation Notice letter/election flyer today.
It shows Winthrop as 6APP-61 (here I am thinking Winthrop was 6APP-05). Apparently, they intend to install between 10 June and 31 Oct this year. Let's see.
Apparently, they intend to install between 10 June and 31 Oct this year.
Install what exactly I wonder? I already have cable so it will probably be a non-event.
It shows Winthrop as 6APP-61 (here I am thinking Winthrop was 6APP-05)
6APP-61 for second-hand cable NBN
6APP-05 for world leading fibre NBN
I guess we will find out next month which 6APP-6X areas (if any) will be going to Build Commenced. So we know Winthrop is 6APP-61. Based on the FTTP SAM's then it could be
6APP-05 = 6APP-61 Winthrop HFC
6APP-06 = 6APP-60 Bateman/Murdoch HFC
6APP-08 = 6APP-62 Leeming/Bull Creek HFC
This month we had 6JTS-61 (Yangebup) go to Build for HFC. It was previously listed in the Telstra document as 01-Mar-2017 RFS, but has now been changed to 18-Nov-2016 after it went to Build. Based on this we may expect the first 6APP HFC areas to go live by the end of the year?
Reports from other areas seem like NBN are installing lead-ins before upgrading any nodes etc. In any case will be interesting to see how long it takes for an area to go from Build Commenced to RFS when the first HFC areas go live.
Got the NBN Installation Notice letter/election flyer today.
Just checked. We didn't get any notice. Do you have cable installed at your place? Maybe this is only to those premises where they will install lead-ins to your house as indicated by:
Reports from other areas seem like NBN are installing lead-ins before upgrading any nodes etc.
The NBN letter came with a pamphlet titled "Notice of hybrid-fibre coaxial (HFC) installation. The details." ... indicating that a utility box would be installed.
No cable here Pete � so yes, probably just a prep.
Got the NBN Installation Notice letter/election flyer today.
It shows Winthrop as 6APP-61
Just wondering where in Winthrop you are (without giving anything away of course) � I'm near Winthrop Oval and haven't seen any flyers yet.
I just received my NBN installation notice today and Notice of HFC installation details.
It stated the installation date will be between 15th June 2016 till 3rd Nov 2016.
I am living on Vigors Ave, Bull Creek. This area has Foxtel or telstra cable.
Anyone know whether the installation will be underground or above ground? Im worried they start digging my garden.
Anyone know whether the installation will be underground or above ground? Im worried they start digging my garden.
I have a Telstra HFC lead-in in Bateman which runs underground. From the top of my head I think most of the surrounding area has underground cable as opposed to aerial. Your pretty flower beds could be in trouble!
It stated the installation date will be between 15th June 2016 till 3rd Nov 2016.
Interesting to see work in both Winthrop and Bull Creek confirmed here. Could be possible that the rest of 6APP areas will undergo HFC works simultaneously.
The CMTS upgrade seems to have been done already so it could all come online by end of 2016.
I have a Telstra HFC lead-in in Bateman which runs underground. From the top of my head I think most of the surrounding area has underground cable as opposed to aerial. Your pretty flower beds could be in trouble!
My house was just been built. I know atm there are cable from the telstra underground box to the telstra utility box outside the house. Will they be able to use that piping to put thru the cable instead of digging and putting new pipe in?
have you seen any tech started working on it? What is CMTS?
I also received a notice in the mail yesterday regarding nbn in my area. (Murdoch)
Same installation date between 15th june 2016 and 3 november 2016.
Interesting to see work in both Winthrop and Bull Creek confirmed here.
I wonder if everybody in these areas receives this notice or only those without an existing cable lead-in to their premises? I haven't received any notice (in Winthrop) but I have an active Foxtel / Bigpond cable service.
I wonder if everybody in these areas receives this notice or only those without an existing cable lead-in to their premises? I haven't received any notice (in Winthrop) but I have an active Foxtel / Bigpond cable service.
Hi Petep, not sure it will help. Before I knocked down my house at Bull Creek, my house used to have foxtel lead-in cable already. After I rebuilt, it didn't have foxtel. But I presume, the lead-in cable should be very easy to install. Just put thru the piping which were used for the ADSL2+ copper line isnt it (2 inch pipe)
Three NBN vehicles
in Aitken Drive Winthrop this morning. It appeared the crews were working on pits.
Three NBN vehicles
in Aitken Drive Winthrop this morning. It appeared the crews were working on pits.
Thanks for the information but since I already have HFC to me this is really a non-event. Just hope they stay away from my side of Winthrop (didn't get any notice of NBN works in the area so maybe a good sign). When we were in Build Prep for FTTP my cable internet/foxtel went down at least twice for the rest of the day. I definitely don't want to go through that again for nothing (at least FTTP would have been something).
As we all now know after the release of the Labor NBN policy:
https://11217-presscd
http://blog.jxee
the rest of 6APP will be condemned to NBN HFC with all the problems identified in the Analysis Mason report of upgrades needed as early as 2020 and the constrained upstream capacity we will have:
https://www.accc.gov.au
Think about that when you vote in this very safe Liberal seat.
Think about that when you vote in this very safe Liberal seat.
Nothing to think about Pete � there are people in 6APP like myself who have already seen the train wreck that a once promising infrastructure project has become in the last 3 years under Malcolm's magic roundabout.
The worst part is the Telstra IED that he will leave behind for more forward thinking people to defuse.
I will neither forgive nor forget come election day.
Will they be able to use that piping to put thru the cable instead of digging and putting new pipe in?
if it is 20mm duct (which should be) then yes
There hasn't been any 6APP areas added to the NBN rollout map however Finder has been updated showing the HFC areas gone to "Build Preparation" commencing May 2016.
http://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/sa/6APP
6APP-60 Leeming � 2000 premises
6APP-61 Kardinya, Winthrop � 2200 premises
6APP-62 Bull Creek (WA), Leeming � 1700 premises
6APP-63 Leeming, Willetton � 2200 premises
6APP-64 Bateman, Murdoch, Winthrop � 2800 premises
What's the comparison with the current T$ cable setup Pete,
10%-20% decrease in downstream speed with NBN HFC over Telstra HFC (25 vs 35 or 100 vs 115) but a 500% to 2000% increase in upstream speecd (5 vs 1.2 or 40 vs 2.4). Of course the latter will only be if you are one of the few maxxing out the upstream due to the limited bandwidth NBNCo can use in the first 18 months. If you don't care about uploads you lose with NBN, if uploads open a whole new world then NBN is for you.
BTW, with NBN you are forced to use the RSP provided router for your phone service (which you lose if you bridge the router for your own better, more powerful, and more customisable router).
will the rollout impinge on the current cable setup in your opinion?
In theory no since NBN and Telstra use different bands. However during the Build / Prep process from now until early 2017 we can expect downtimes as contractors do HFC infill and lead-ins while at the same time Telstra/NBN retune the HFC plant to cope with the change. Some users may not see anything, others may experience more outages or degraded service.
Anyone able to give me some recommandation?
I am currently with iinet ADSL2+ and my speed is at around 19mbps. I called telstra and they said I am able to get cable internet with them. The speed is up to 100mbps with 8mbps upload.
Should I change it to Telstra cable? Just a note, my area is also building HFC lead in at the moment.
Any advise will be useful.
with 8mbps upload
Err that is 2.4 Mbps upload actually.
Should I change it to Telstra cable?
That is your choice. If you have 19 Mbps on ADSL you must be pretty close to Bateman exchange (and a stone's throw away from those with FTTP in Bull Creek) and if you are happy with that I would wait for NBN HFC rather lock into a 24 month contract with Telstra.
Is NBN HFC better than Telstra cable?
Yes, exchange is very near to my house. Street in front of me is FTTP and RFS.
Is NBN HFC better than Telstra cable?
See my previous posts. However until we know more about NBN HFC when it is finally available nobody knows. We do know Telstra HFC will still have better downstream and NBN HFC will provide much better upstream on comparable plans, beyond that ... who knows?
Telstra HFC
NBN HFC
ermmmm there is no such thing, NBN is buying the HFC from Telstra and then adding in small sections that the initial rollout did not cover � both will be NBN HFC or have i misread you?
I would wait for NBN HFC rather lock into a 24 month contract with Telstra.
I will be because although I love the idea of "faster than ADSL", I'm not prepared to pay an extra $60/mth + a 24 mth contract. I suspect once the HFC is available it will be cheaper � I hope.
Plus I don't like Telstra!
Are we going to be stuck with VoIP phones?
both will be NBN HFC or have i misread you?
Telstra HFC before RFS when NBN takes over and only Bigpond exists with their 35/1.2 and 115/2.4 plans.
NBN HFC is when NBN takes over and you have the NBN speed tiers provided by the RSP of your choice (together with Bigpond during coexistance)
HFC is available it will be cheaper � I hope.
Plus I don't like Telstra!
Exetel is the cheapest but no idea on quality here in WA (e.g. do all packets get routed to VIC/NSW even if your destination is local?). Of course your favourite iiNet, Internode, Optus or TPG will also be available.
Are we going to be stuck with VoIP phones?
Yes, landline copper will be decommissioned. And unlike FTTP you do not have a separate voice only port which can work during blackouts.
Yes, landline copper will be decommissioned.
What's the reason it has to be decommissioned? In my simple mind, is it not a separate infrastructure from the HFC?
So as to not have to maintain both infrastructure, the intention is for the copper to go in FTTP & HFC networks
Obviously I have plenty of time, but was just wondering what the normal installation for us newbies that don't already have cable installed now is?
I understand that they will pull through a lead-in and put an NBN box outside somewhere near the current phone line input.
But what do the they do from there, do they put a coax outlet inside the garage for example that backs on to the NBN box, or is all that up to the ISP once everything is switched on and I sign up to a new plan?
I don't have any desire to leave the new modem out in the garage area, so would it be worthwhile running a new RG6 cable somewhere near where the box will go back to my office in preparation?
^Found this which answers my question as above^
Hi all,
I'm in Bull Creek with FTTP and just signed up for Skymesh on a 25/10 plan. Everything's working fine except for traffic from international and/or outside of Skymesh's network.
When I do speedtests using ookla (default server) and Skymesh's netgauge, I record about 22-23 Mbits download ... which is to be expected.
When I do speedtests using ookla (changing to an optus and also an aarnet server in Perth), I record about 12-13 Mbits download. I get similar results from downloading large files (via http) from a private VPS of mine (located in California).
This is consistent across multiple devices (Android phone, laptop).
The evidence suggests that the NBN/FTTP connection is operating at the expected speed (almost 25 Mbits) but there is some sort of bottleneck in Skymesh's network or backhaul.
Reading whirlpool again, this seems to be a common issue with Skymesh. I'm not interested in debating whether there is an issue or not.
Rather, I'm interested in knowing ...
For other FTTP users in 6APP, what RSPs are you using that provide (relatively) fast traffic? I'm particularly interested in international traffic (based on the premise that if international traffic is fast, then other AU traffic should be decent as well).
Also, I'm aware that performance varies greatly across RSPs, POIs and backhaul providers. Hence, I'm asking specifically in this thread because I'm interested specifically in data for the 6APP POI, not for the wider NBN.
And I'm not after Skymesh-specific data but general RSP data, again, only for (FTTP) 6APP.
Thank you all.
3 areas in 6APP have been added as "Build Commenced" to the NBN rollout map today. These areas cover Winthrop, Murdoch, Bateman, Bull Creek, part of Leeming (and possibly a small part of Willetton?)
3 areas in 6APP have been added as "Build Commenced" to the NBN rollout map today
Do you have a link please?
3 areas in 6APP have been added as "Build Commenced" to the NBN rollout map today. These areas cover Winthrop, Murdoch, Bateman, Bull Creek, part of Leeming (and possibly a small part of Willetton?)
How coincidental today that I see spools of black coax cable being rolled out at the roundabout of Somerville Blvd and Prescott Rd and more Telstra pits being replaced in Murdoch.
Indirectly confirmed by:
https://au.news.yahoo.com
And specifically:
http://www.nbnc
Of course this is not all that exciting news since I already have HFC broadband with Telstra so nothing really new happening, and not looking forward to the rolling outages (our first notified outage in east Winthrop is happening next Tuesday, I am sure that won't be the last).
goddammit http://imgur.com/Syermyy . Anyone have any idea what they will rollout in this area, we do not have foxtel cable, so i guess FTTN ?. I'm currently getting 3 down / 0.5 up D: edge of exchange i think.
@Bengtan, I am in APP-07 too with Skymesh on a 100/40 plan. The speed I got on aarnet was 22/26 and Optus was 86/36 done within seconds of each other. Test done on mobile phone connected wirelessly.
Hmm maybe need to switch to Telstra. I wonder how's Optus's speed in Bull Creek as it seems that there's plenty of complaint about Optus.
@redforall:
A couple of other 6APP users mention Aussie Broadband in the Skymesh 1mbit thread:
I've already cancelled my Skymesh and will try them out after the current billing cycle.
@Bengtan
I am looking to switch as well. with the EPL coming, my plan with Skymesh may be inadequate. Besides Aussie Broadband, is there any other provider worth considering?
Cheers
tested on speedtest.net to San Jose, my results
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5490940453
seems pretty decent? although I am on 100/40 plan and it's rather late here
Winthrop had "Build Commenced" for over a year back with they were rolling out FTTP, now we've got coax going in. I don't know why we're a safe Liberal seat when we've been bent over and screwed so bad. Looking forward to a more modern internet.
Winthrop had "Build Commenced" for over a year back
Actually that was only the green "Build Preparation". Interesting that there was way more activity with Build Prep back then than with Build Commenced now. I have seen very little if any activity around my side of Winthrop. I guess because there is nothing to do when there is nothing new being installed.
now we've got coax going in.
Which is why I really don't care anymore as I already have Telstra cable broadband and the NBN will offer me little more if not less (much less downstream which I use, way more upstream which I rarely use, and an uncertain design which may make congestion a daily ritual to contend with).
Well down here in 6APP-63, just off the bottom end of Beasley near South St end, they have just started infilling where the Telstra HFC is missing.
A company called Fever Pitch rocked up today and pulled some cable up from Beasley in to my street, they stopped at my pit which is strange given there are houses past mine, even though it is a cul de sac. Maybe they'll come back in from the other side, or do they run smaller cable from my pit to do the rest of the street? The stuff they pulled up was about 15mm in diameter at a guess.
Well, problem solved.
They came back today and did the rest of the street.
They musty only work half days on Fridays... :-)
Saw a contractor doing asbestos removal on a pit in Fabian Close this morning. Hopefully that might mean something happening with NBN round here some time soon.
I see some areas are getting HFC. Is that going to be DOCSIS 3.0 or DOCSIS 3.1?
Is that going to be DOCSIS 3.0 or DOCSIS 3.1
NBN isn't introducing 3.1 until the second half of 2017.
Updated RFS from:
https://www.telstrawhol
6APP-60 BATEMAN WA 19-Dec-2016
6APP-61 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-62 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-63 BATEMAN WA 19-Dec-2016
6APP-64 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
Christmas present!
Christmas present!
<Slow clap>
It's like getting someone's cast-off car after they have finished with it........
Delivered only 2 years late after it was promised , but 20 years old and battered though serviceable, with oil leaks and bald tyres. The engine mysteriously drops power when pushed too hard.
Then you find you are actually paying the same as if you got a brand new E-Class Merc.
Finally getting a RFS date should be cause for celebration, but I am past it now. I just can't be bothered.
I gave up on it some months back and I really feel for others in areas who have to wait even longer for a substandard rollout and service.
Will installation of NBN HFC (lead in cable) slowing down my adsl speed or dropout?
Have anyone realised part of bull creek is not under the HFC rollout plan but under 3 years construction plan.
It is so weird. Anyone know what is happening or why?
Have anyone realised part of bull creek is not under the HFC rollout plan but under 3 years construction plan.
You mean the majority part of Bull Creek which has had FTTP since the start of this year (6APP-07)?
You mean the majority part of Bull Creek which has had FTTP since the start of this year (6APP-07)?
No. Check on the finder or nbnco website. you will know what I meant. got one section of bull creek near John Creaney park is not getting NBN but on 3 years rollout plan.
6APP-60 BATEMAN WA 19-Dec-2016
6APP-61 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-62 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-63 BATEMAN WA 19-Dec-2016
6APP-64 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
All changed to 23-Dec-2016 on the latest sheet.
Christmas present!
Santa will be cutting it fine...
don't know why we're a safe Liberal seat when we've been bent over and screwed so bad. Looking forward to a more modern internet.
I'll tell you something, the number of people in your "seat" who asked me (who I knew were bolt on liberal voters) why they were now getting HFC or FTTN, told me they voted to kill the FTTP off because they thought they were already locked in for FTTP, the high number was simply staggering. Some walked away from me absolutely fuming that they were not not getting fibre to their house. I found it hilarious.
All changed to 23-Dec-2016 on the latest sheet.
Bazza65, where did you see this information? I couldn't find it on nbnco or finder website.
told me they voted to kill the FTTP off because they thought they were already locked in for FTTP
The "trickle down" effect backfiring ... love it!
where did you see this information?
https://www.telstrawholesale
2nd tab Expected RFS
Taps fitted in the pits today, tech told me he only had 2 streets to do that didn't already have HFC fitted from the old Telstra days in this area..?
I would have thought there would have been a lot more than that? Unless someone else has the job.
Taps fitted in the pits today,
Sounds like infill work rather than lead-in
I would have thought there would have been a lot more than that?
Most streets would have been covered in the initial rollout. The question is how many of those taps were converted to lead-in cable to the premises. That is where it will get interesting. I read somewhere around 30% of premises do not have lead-ins in this area.
70% serviced, yeah that would be accurate from what I saw
Sounds like infill work rather than lead-in
Yes, definitely infill, they ran the new cable up the street about 3 weeks back.
Tech said the new cable is supposed to be connected to the old mid next week.
No sign of any lead-in work as yet.
Taps fitted in the pits today, tech told me he only had 2 streets to do that didn't already have HFC fitted from the old Telstra days in this area..?
I would have thought there would have been a lot more than that? Unless someone else has the job.
You have the taps fitted today? Do you previously have the taps inside the telstra pit?
When they open up the telstra pit, mine already have the taps but it is like rusted or corroded and the tech said the signal or noise is very high and need to change it.
So they only do a lead in cable for me and put a PCD NBN utility box.
Could you take a photo of the new taps?
Do you previously have the taps inside the telstra pit?
No, my street has never had HFC cable before.
New cable was pulled through about 3 weeks back, taps put in today, tech said we are to be connected to the rest of the grid mid next week. Then presumably sometime after that we will have the lead-ins pulled through.
No, my street has never had HFC cable before.
okie. nice.
My area already have HFC ages ago that why the TAPS is stuffed. They said need to be changed and called NBNco.
They said the taps will be changed when the "ready for service" is up at end of december. Not sure why they don't do it now.
May I know which parts are you on? Did you realised small section of bull creek has been removed from HFC network?
May I know which parts are you on?
As per my previous posts, I am in 6APP-63, just off Beaskey Rd down near South St end.
As per my previous posts, I am in 6APP-63, just off Beaskey Rd down near South St end.
Hmm...weird...
according to the finder map, that section isn't on the rollout schedule.
Or Do I miss something?
Or Do I miss something?
I wouldn't rely too much on the rollout map.
We are listed as prep on Finder, maybe we will go to build when they're ready to do the lead-in work.
As per my previous posts, I am in 6APP-63, just off Beaskey Rd down near South St end.
Pm me your street address
That area is all HFC new build, I scoped that street lol
That area is all HFC new build,
That's why I was surprised yesterday when the tech said he only had to do 2 streets with new taps...
Mind you, as he was installing the said new taps, he proceeded to tell me we were getting FTTN, 'because this is coax not fibre' LOL...
Didn't have the heart to correct him.
he proceeded to tell me we were getting FTTN, 'because this is coax not fibre' LOL...
He is not that wrong, both FTTN and HFC are not true FTTH and have their own problems, see:
/forum-replies.cfm?t=2560384
Frankly if you are close to your DA pillar and have clean copper running through your premises (no messy unused multiple sockets and unterminated wiring) you would be better off with FTTN.
I just checked the NBN maps:
http://www.nbnco.com.au
and there is a non-NBN gap centred around Bull Creek Primary School / John Creaney Park surrounded by FTTP RFS to the north-west and HFC Build to the south-east, what is happening there exactly? And also the other side east of Oberthur Primary School, west of Karel avenue?
I just checked the NBN maps:
http://www.nbnco.com.au
and there is a non-NBN gap centred around Bull Creek Primary School / John Creaney Park surrounded by FTTP RFS to the north-west and HFC Build to the south-east, what is happening there exactly? And also the other side east of Oberthur Primary School, west of Karel avenue?
That was what I was trying to say last time. Totally no idea what is happening to that section. Only small area. So weird.
No idea what NBNCO is doing.
that sections is HFC as well
that sections is HFC as well
It was HFC before, but then it was removed few weeks ago.
Not sure why.
NBN boots million homes from HFC cable to slower FttN
http://www.smh.com.au/techno
Unless pay TV cables already run down the street, homes in HFC-enabled suburbs are likely to end up on fibre-to-the-node as up to 1.5 million premises are slashed from the cable rollout plan.
Unless pay TV cables already run down the street
I'm glad they ran new HFC cables up our street a few weeks back, otherwise who knows...
It was HFC before, but then it was removed few weeks ago.
Not sure why.
Could be it's now changed to FTTN as per the above..?
Unless pay TV cables already run down the street, homes in HFC-enabled suburbs are likely to end up on fibre-to-the-node as up to 1.5 million premises are slashed from the cable rollout plan.
We had the NBN guys install a box on the side of the house about 3 weeks ago, in Murdoch near south street. Guessing we will be on HFC, never got around to installing tesltra cable because of the 2 year contract and all the talk about NBN coming both from labor and liberal governments.
Not sure which is better as people are saying both are terrible but I'm wondering how long until we can purchase a plan and if we will be told which one we are on as they require different routers.
Currently at 7Mbps , which isn't too bad personally except with many people watching video but has definitely limited my interest in heavy use applications like 4k video which I would consider.
Approximately how many houses are on your pillar, as stated on the NBNco Corporate Plan 2017, the costs for HFC and FTTN are identical at $2300 if FTTN connected on average 200-300 houses. If your pillar has significantly less premises, it makes more economical sense to infill HFC, rather than FTTN
I'm wondering how long until we can purchase a plan and if we will be told which one we are on as they require different routers.
6APP-60 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-61 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-62 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-63 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
6APP-64 BATEMAN WA 23-Dec-2016
You should have received a letter from NBN, we did, which said they were doing HFC work etc... That letter will also tell you which area 6APP-6x you are in as above, which is irrelevant as they all go live the same day now anyway.
When you sign up with an RSP (after 23 Dec, or whenever it gets pushed back to) NBN will come and do some install work inside your house, like fitting the outlet etc and running cable back to the box you mentioned that was fitted outside, and they will supply you with an Arris modem, then your RSP will send you their router (if you want/need it, or are happy to pay for it, either outright or mostly free on a locked in contract)
Could be it's now changed to FTTN as per the above..?
And this may not be the end of it! If you are in a Build area and don't see any lead-in works happening you may find yourself removed in the next map update. Interesting to see the brown Build maps look like swiss cheese.
What a mess, Thanks Ben!
If you are in a Build area and don't see any lead-in works happening
Our area isn't even listed as build yet, but given they just ran new cable up the street 3 or 4 weeks ago, and new taps 2 days ago, I think we are should be ok... (famous last words)
Could be it's now changed to FTTN as per the above..?
Here is a thought. I checked on mybroadband and that area is the east side of a DA which spills over into the FTTP side of Bull Creek. The next DA to the south (I think all the way down to South street) is similary constructed. I remember in the Senate hearings they couldn't (or wouldn't) go any finer that at the DA level for the choice of technology. So it could be that any FTTP DAs from 6APP-07 which stick out will get FTTP instead of FTTN or HFC. Of course I could be wrong since I didn't think a DA would be able straddle a major road (Benningfield Rd). Go to https://www.mybroadband.communications.gov.au/ and check it our yourself.
FYI
Just received a flyer in the post addressed to my home (but in the name of To the Resident) from TPG announcing Super Fast NBN would soon be coming to my home. This is on the east side of Winthrop, west of Murdoch Dve.
Other than that "No Activity"
ust received a flyer in the post addressed to my home (but in the name of To the Resident) from TPG announcing Super Fast NBN would soon be coming to my home. This is on the east side of Winthrop, west of Murdoch Dve.
Other than that "No Activity"
Same here, I received the exact same flyer as Petep. I am on the east side of Bull Creek, Vigors Ave.
They did lead in about 1 month ago and said will fix the TAP but haven't seen any tech coming to fix it
Just received a flyer in the post addressed to my home (but in the name of To the Resident) from TPG
Got it today..
What are you planning on doing PeteP, stay on your current Telstra plan as long as possible or jump to someone else?
I guess only time will tell, but do you see any RSP's being in a better position to offer a decent HFC service over others?
What type of things will come into play? Congestion, lack of CVC etc, the same as FTTN, how will HFC differ?
No word on either Belong or iiNet offering HFC plans as yet, despite Redcliffe (Qld) and Ocean Reef (WA) being live for a while now, any thoughts on this?
I just checked the NBN maps:
and there is a non-NBN gap centred around Bull Creek Primary School / John Creaney Park surrounded by FTTP RFS to the north-west and HFC Build to the south-east, what is happening there exactly? And also the other side east of Oberthur Primary School, west of Karel avenue?
It's been put back into the latest map which was released today.
My area is finally showing as build commenced as well, there are a few areas that are mssing though, looks a bit strange..
http://www.nbnco.com.au/lear
My area is finally showing as build commenced as well, there are a few areas that are missing though, looks a bit strange..
Yes a real jigsaw puzzle the Bull Creek/Leeming area is looking like.
Just realised there are some new estates in Bateman/Murdoch in the last the last 15 years which have popped up and according to Telstra only ADSL (not cable) is available:
- Noalimba / Arcadia Crescent, Bateman
- Japonica Way, Murdoch
It will be interesting to see what happens in 3 months when this whole area goes RFS for NBN. These areas require both cable in-fill as well as cable lead-in works (no different than FTTP). There are around 50 premises affected so maybe small fry in the greater scheme of things, but if there are enough of this littered around Bateman, Murdoch, Bull Creek and Leeming the cost all adds up very quickly.
Just realised there are some new estates in Bateman/Murdoch in the last the last 15 years which have popped up and according to Telstra only ADSL (not cable) is available:
Yes, my street in Leeming is only about 16 years old or so (was parkland I believe) and there "was" no cable in our street. This was run up the street about a month or so ago, taps fitted a few weeks back but no lead ins as yet. Only 13 houses in our street..
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