your wireless is probably performing better than our ADSL 1
i've done some searching to try and decipher the 1 x p100 optics telstra writing on the road where they are doing the works at the moment
it is the type of conduit used for road crossings � it is 100mm conduit
the maximum number of 100 pair distribution cables that will fit in each conduit is 4
so thats what is being put into that work there where the markings are on the road
that will be fed into a P5 pit which is for feeding residences
so sounds like this work is for 400 more houses ???
looks like congestion at the exchange is about to get a whole lot worse !!
(my deciphering could be shocking � i have tried to work this out from this
Looks like some good news for us already connected at the exchange! What do they care, they already have our $$$.
Is there any kind of community forum that people from the area can put forward their concerns? I wonder if the local council can do anything.
I just found out the CMUX I'm connected to is ADSL2+ enabled so if I upgrade I'll get those speeds for a couple of weeks but then back down to 2.5Mbit. At least I'd have 1Mbit up.
I'm considering.
I'm considering.
I'm not concerned with my ADSL1 1.5/256 speed, it's the fact that I am getting over 900 latency at times to my ISP due to congestion. I would be over the moon for a correctly functioning ADSL 1 connection. Trying to play online games such as CSS with a 500-900 ping on Australian servers is silly, and my other half was trying to play the Warcraft last night with a ping ranging between 2700-4000ms.
apparently the work being done is to add the new estate on johnson road: emerald park to the medina exchange ( which would be about the 400 houses i calculated the other day)
There would also be a few new connections from the other new estate Belgravia Central on Johnson road just before Sanctuary drive. Could be about 100 or more houses in there.
I just found out the CMUX I'm connected to is ADSL2+ enabled so if I upgrade I'll get those speeds for a couple of weeks but then back down to 2.5Mbit. At least I'd have 1Mbit up.
No CMUX in AUstralia cam supply ADSL2+ ,they have the wrong hardware and supporting software.
You may be connected to a CMUX for POTS and an ISAM Adjunct for ADSL2+, in which congestion issues are unlikely, with a gigE feed for a max of 384 customers
Just be glad you guys are getting ADSL1
Yes, in a way we are "lucky". The RIMs are full and I feel for anyone trying to get ADSL, I think they will be in for a long wait.
Have you asked the neigbours if they have ADSL? If your on good terms with them you can ask if they would share a connection. I share mine with 2 others, going thirds in a big plan is a win-win for everyone.
Also a shout out to the fellow Bertram peeps I have whim'd
You may be connected to a CMUX for POTS and an ISAM Adjunct for ADSL2+
Yeah, this is what it'd be. They are two green boxes side-by-side.
I am in bertram, what up y'all :) I am down the north end of Whiteman Crescent, just before the new development. I am on the RIM too :( Never be able to get ADSL2+. Im on 8MB, so the speed is ok, but the latency is shocking and its BS i have to pay more then an ADSL2+ cust and get less DL's. I just have to wait the 5-10 yrs for FTTN :(
Im on 8MB, so the speed is ok
Half your luck, must of us have been hit by the telstra axe and limited to 3MBit.
Not a great start when i'm trying to get an IT company up and running :(
Good luck with that � have been been through that experience and it is hard down here... I was one of the first people to build in Bertram and had to fight for 2 years after i moved in just to get DSL... In those days i was running the Bertram Progress Association and i had had a website for the BPA also... but with few people in the area then we didn't get the support.
I decided to chuck a wobbley about getting shaped to 3meg a little while ago. Called iinet, called telstra, telstra sent me a response that said we don't do that sort of thing (ha!), iinet responded with a letter saying "yes telstra does", refered it to tio, then iinet finaly busted out the clause in their contract with telstra wholesale where telstra basicaly say they can do as they damn well please with their hardware and iinet (and iinets customers) can shove it (alright I may have paraphrased a little :)
In the end iinet offered to drop me back to 1.5 at no charge (i thought about it then decided that the dl quota on home 5 was good enough to keep me on the 8meg plan). Now my tracert to iinet servers have blown out to >500ms and my dl is currently ~ 50KB/s (as i write this) I'm having seconds thoughts (and eying off wireless bb).
We should have a organised bandwidth max out (dl the big 500meg file on the iinet ftp), wait until our dl's all fail then simultaneously call our ISP's to complain. With a bit of luck the congestion would cause voice calls to fail or something, then telstra have to act. A letterdrop to in the area for people who have ADSL but don't realise how much it sucks so they can get on board could help (I've heard of one case where a heap of people in a single suburb kicked up a stink and actualy got something done to fix their local bb service)
Just moved from Bertram to Wellard (near the trainstation).
I have ADSL1 with Telstra and was getting DL speeds of around 150kbps in Bertram.
In Wellard I cant get any faster than 50kbps. Is there any reason behind this or is Wellard speeds all like that.
I have a 2701HGV-W modem from Bigpond.
With a bit of luck the congestion would cause voice calls to fail or something
No connection.
News as of yesterday afternoon, getting home from work -> no sync. Still none when I left home this morning. Anyone else in Bertram lost their ADSL?
In Wellard I cant get any faster than 50kbps. Is there any reason behind this or is Wellard speeds all like that.
Im in Wellard and I can't get any ADSL, due to transmission loss too high...
my ADSL was working last night and the wife hasnt called me today whinging about the internet not working so i guess mine is still working
Yea I'll take both please...VoIP has sucked with the latency, oh hang on that means we keep our landlines � its all making sense now :)
I would be happy with both too, but I feel as though I'm already getting my hopes up too high just waiting for the latency fix, let alone full 8mb speed.
I have a friend who has wireless broadband but not through telstra, he says the latency is pretty crap on that too.
tomorrow !?!
darn it !
did we ever find out how to identify what DSLAM you are on?
where are the DSLAMs ?
in the exchange or on the RIMs ?
and with only 2 DLAMs listed for work does this mean Medina exchange only has 2 DSLAMs in it or will only 2 RIMs in the entire area have work done on them?
I've now confused myself even more and am now less confident in any improvement being seen for us.
WA MDNA QMDNAE2S3 22/01/2010
WA MDNA QMDNAE2S8 1/02/2010
did we ever find out how to identify what DSLAM you are on?
Well, if you find your street in this;
http://telstrawholesale.com/
That will tell you what DA you are on.
I am on DA093 (Sanctuary Drive). Make sure you are looking under M for Medina.
Westnet has confirmed with me that my DSLAM (DA093+DA079) is not one of the ones that is being upgraded.
well thats shit � so you wont see any improvement??
i think im on 77
but those DA numbers dont correspond with the numbers listed on that DSLAM upgrade page?
how do we know what DSLAM's are being upgraded?
i'm on DA082...
what is also being upgraded as to what future speed???
thanks
Someone said in this thread it was a wellard and callistra RIM / DSLAM. Bertram is on the sh!t list my friend. By the time they get to all our RIM we will all have fibre.
I was told by Westnet that my DSLAM isn't being upgraded but they didn't say which ones were and I didn't think to ask.
ertram is on the sh!t list my friend. By the time they get to all our RIM we will all have fibre.
Too true.
what is also being upgraded as to what future speed???
They are uncapping the RIMs from 3mb and putting dynamic caps on them that will reduce everyones (not just 8mb scapegoat users shouldering the burden for no particular reason) throughput during heavy demand periods.
this is bullshit
i was looking forward to some improvement
thats now not coming
GRRR !!
thats now not coming
WN advised me that mine would be upgraded within 3 months, though I'm not sure where they got the info from. They must have a contact at Telstra because they were able to identify which DSLAM would be affected by these recent upgrades.
I spoke to Telstra Business helpdesk this morning and the guy said he would call me back when he found out if my DSLAM would be one of the ones upgraded in this area next week... obviously that information is a little too hard to obtain even for their Business support rofl.
thats now not coming
WN advised me that mine would be upgraded within 3 months, though I'm not sure where they got the info from. They must have a contact at Telstra because they were able to identify which DSLAM would be affected by these recent upgrades.
I called WN adn teh guy in support couldn't tell me anything about these planned upgrades even though i told him my DSLAM being DA082. i think i'll just have to wait for tomorrow and the 1st at this stage to see what happens.
I did get me email saying that the 18th was something happening for 20seconds but nothing came of that.
I did get me email saying that the 18th was something happening for 20seconds but nothing came of that.
The e-mail states that work is beginning at the exchange ON the Monday 18th and you may have a 20 second disconnection period. The actual work is taking place on Friday 22nd.
I called WN adn teh guy in support couldn't tell me anything about these planned upgrades even though i told him my DSLAM being DA082. i think i'll just have to wait for tomorrow and the 1st at this stage to see what happens.
I've been in contact with Brent Criddle and some others at WN for over 12 months in regard to this issue. Some how they were able to find out if mine would be affected.
I'll wait till saturday to see if there is a change
i think bertram ADSL needs its own sub forum : )
i think bertram ADSL needs its own sub forum : )
I think what Bertram needs is its own telephone exchange :P
I think what Bertram needs is its own telephone exchange :P
+1000000000000000000000000000000 ADSL2+
Today we received a letter from Telstra stating what we already know about the maintenence on the Medina exchange, but also that our actual phone line will stop working for an hour sometime between the 2nd and 3rd of Feb. It seems that these upgrades could be really significant for a change.. :O
Westnet has confirmed with me that my DSLAM (DA093+DA079) is not one of the ones that is being upgraded.
Oh good! I'm on DA079. As long as WN have solid info that 90 and 79 are not part of the upgrade I guess I'll just have to hope that the general reduction in congestion helps my cause.
Today we received a letter from Telstra stating what we already know about the maintenence on the Medina exchange, but also that our actual phone line will stop working for an hour sometime between the 2nd and 3rd of Feb. It seems that these upgrades could be really significant for a change.. :O
this sounds a bit more promising
28 DA's on the report. But some are on the same row. Does that mean that 2 ISAM's are in the same housing ?
no, there is not 2 x ISAM in any housing.
A DA is NOT a DSLAM of any description.
a DA is a Distribution Area. a DSLAM serves a particular Distribution Area. It may be possible for 1 DSLAM to service more than 1 DA or more than 1 DSLAM may serve a particular DA, Packert Storm, Cannon1d or similar would need to verify that part.
The common practice of refeering to a DSLAM, whether in a RIM, CMUX or ISAM housing as a DA is WRONG
i reckon there has been some playing around with something
i was pulling near on 6mbps yesterday but all at a constant 115ms ping
which was useless for gaming
last night � unstable pings � 4 mbps � lots of latency spikes
this morning
stable 32ms pings � 1.8mbps
its all over the place � i wish it would just stay how it was this morning
I would be happy with 15ms pings and 1mb throughput :P
Even when I am lagging like mad I can still pull upward of 330kb/s from usenet, other times I can pull over 500kb/s � 600kb/s on usenet. My hardware has not had the upgrade and I'm assuming it is capped as per every other RIM/DSLAM/CMUX/ISA/WHATHAVEYOU/THINGYMEBOB.
You guys need to get this whole software upgrade bullshit out of your head. The problem is with the physical backhaul capacity!!
When you lag its because other people on your DSLAM are using their ADSL. Pretty simple really and i cant see anything being done about it. Have a look at the age of this thread?
You guys need to get this whole software upgrade bullshit out of your head. The problem is with the physical backhaul capacity!!
But the software upgrade bullshit was meant to band aid the problem by dynamically restricting demand of the backhaul through dynamic capping to that it would not exceed the physical supply. In theory it should work but in reality doesn't look like it is making much/any difference if people in this thread have in fact had the upgrade done on their hardware.
Things are getting pretty bad when you cannot reliably load up even a simple website like whirlpool on your ADSL service :P.
EXACTLY !
A DA is NOT a DSLAM of any description.
a DA is a Distribution Area. a DSLAM serves a particular Distribution Area.
I know a DA is not hardware. But DA with the appropriate code is the identification of the cabinet housing.
MEDINA WA MDNA DA080, DA084, DA089 No ports available
So that would indicate that 3 cabinets are servicing the same streets, but will most likely be placed at different points around the distribution area.
The common practice of refeering to a DSLAM, whether in a RIM, CMUX or ISAM housing as a DA is WRONG
Please assist me in correctly naming it? Shall I call the node a DSLAM, ISAM, or a cabinet, or a RIM, or a CMUX.
It's impossible for anyone to know exactly what to name it without knowing the DAcode and at least having a photo to see if it has 2 cabinets or one. Instead of partaking in the actual dialogue, there's a number of nitpickers stroking their egos because they know that little bit more. But shockingly don't use that advantage to help in the discussion, or offer a solution.
there's a number of nitpickers stroking their egos because they know that little bit more.
Agree. Most of us don't care for the correct terminology we just want it fixed.
I've been looking at The Village at Wellard as a place to buy into but the internet situation down there is extremely worrying.
Unfortunately I have not had much time to read through all the posts in this thread but has anyone gone back to Peet and asked if they could look into a FTTH solution provided by Opticomm?
MEDINA WA MDNA DA080, DA084, DA089 No ports available
So that would indicate that 3 cabinets are servicing the same streets, but will most likely be placed at different points around the distribution area.
No, you have it round the wrong way. That entry means that all or part of those 3 DAs are connected to the one DSLAM. The DSLAM could be in a RIM cabinet, CMUX or ISAM.
The Village at Wellard as a place to buy into but the internet situation down there is extremely worrying.
Yeah, it's crap, don't bother.
has anyone gone back to Peet
A number of us in this thread have contacted Peet and they apparently forwarded e-mails to Telstra. Guess what happened? Jack sh!t.
I wouldn't recommend anyone build or buy in Wellard, Bertram, Belgravia or Emerald Park if they want a useable internet connection. The infrastructure is simply not up to the job.
I've been looking at The Village at Wellard as a place to buy into but the internet situation down there is extremely worrying.
If you want to use the internet then I wouldn't. Problems are getting so bad now that sometimes it can be extremely difficult to get even a website like WP to load.
I hear Kwinana council is going to cut our electricity next and we can all start living like the Amish.
we can all start living like the Amish.
Ahhh!....now that explains the funny hats..
I hear Kwinana council is going to cut our electricity next and we can all start living like the Amish.
lol
The past week, my Internet has been disconnecting on a daily basis.
I am on Minstrell Rd.
SNR Down:- 12dB
SNR Up:- 6dB
My internet connection is dropping out every day � especially in the mornings.
I complained to my ISP who monitored my line for a couple of days before escalating to Telstra.
The bloke came round and put his modem on my line and said it was fine and that I needed a new router. Mine is apparently causing the noise. If I had been home instead of the wife, I would have disputed it with him
He also said all the works going on just off Mortimer/Bertram Rd had nothing to do with phone lines or ADSL.
Not sure if I believe that story. Certainly not rushing out to buy a new Router thats for sure.
Yeah, fact is it's happening to a few of us over the past few weeks when prior it was fine. It suggests it's a Telstra issue not CPE.
FYI � I seen two Bigpond vans at the cabinets on Lotus Ct mid week for anyone around that area so expect more congestion.
And more congestion is exactly what we have. Pings to www.westnet.com.au now averaging over 1000ms, packet loss approaching 10%. It took nearly 2 minutes to load this reply page.
You can't tell me that is an acceptable service.
My Internet over the weekend has been f'ing atrocious � averaging 30KB/s.
Some places in Wellard (not too far from ol' Bertram), specifically DA066,DA076,DA096,DA097 have a total of 1690 SPARE ADSL2 services.
Run a cable down there I say :P
Been trying to find some news about this supposed upgrade by June 30th but haven't managed to come up with anything yet.
So I get onto my mate, and i get the Vivid CTO's mobile number and give him a call and asked when are you guy's going to have services available in Bertram? Answer � never... "We have no plans to have coverage in that area"
More importantly, did you ask why they have no plans to cover Bertram, Kwinana or Wellard.
Its odd, because Rockingham is covered.
My guess is lack of backhaul and suitable existing towers...
Some places in Wellard (not too far from ol' Bertram), specifically DA066,DA076,DA096,DA097 have a total of 1690 SPARE ADSL2 services.
Run a cable down there I say :P
Good luck :P I live in Wellard and am lucky enough to be connected directly to the exchange... except my line fails due to excessive transmission loss...
Nice to see our tax dollars go on something useful.
No thats our rates, watch for the increase in those again this year, by my reckoning Kwinana's rates have gone up by around 18% in the past 3 years. But never fear they just spend $5 million of rates payers dollars beautifying the Industrial Strip � ITS A F$^&& HEAVY INDUSTRIAL STRIP!!! its supposed to look like SH$%
Well people you are going to love this one....
I have the new phone line connected, then the ISP process� the application and it was scheduled for connection last Friday. I get a phone call Friday afternoon saying � sorry there are no ports!
Yep you shoulda asked anyone here first � there has been a shortage of ports since I moved here 5 years ago. Hate to sound like an a$$hole but I think Telstra is rubbing off on me...if you want something that resembles broadband and your new get a cheap wireless dongle and go wireless.
Westnet and Internode have both been stating that a fix will be in place by June 30th as stated earlier. When I originally reported my fault to Westnet in 2008 they said that an issue had been raised with the exchange all the way back in 2006 and usually these things took 4 years to pan out, so hopefully a fix is coming.
rofl � what only 4 years???
The fix is here when I get 700k on my 8Mb plan and pings go under 100ms, I'm going with Tension 10-15 years is my predicted eta.
The fix is here when I get 700k on my 8Mb plan and pings go under 100ms, I'm going with Tension 10-15 years is my predicted eta.
I'm trying to be positive but in the back of my mind I think Tension and yourself are correct :P
I would be happy with 1.5MB Speeds and under 100ms pings. They should not allow 8mb services to be sold on congested RIMS and enforce 1.5mbit and under connections. I would happily drop a tier in speed for some decent latency.
I get a phone call Friday afternoon saying � sorry there are no ports!
Seriously, dude, the wholesale reports could have told you there are no ports free. I was looking to do the same, and run a dual WAN 1.5MBit, but no ports!
You should have opted for a wireless plan, with a multi-wan router. IMO
They should not allow 8mb services to be sold on congested RIMS and enforce 1.5mbit and under connections.
Spot on. But we're talking about $$ here remember.
Simmo.
More importantly, did you ask why they have no plans to cover Bertram, Kwinana or Wellard.
Yes i did and was told that they didn't believe they would get a viable return on investment.... my read on it � Vivid doesn't think people in the area would either subscribe or could afford it... Bloody typical
No thats our rates, watch for the increase in those again this year, by my reckoning Kwinana's rates have gone up by around 18% in the past 3 years. But never fear they just spend $5 million of rates payers dollars beautifying the Industrial Strip � ITS A F$^&& HEAVY INDUSTRIAL STRIP!!! its supposed to look like SH$%
Couldn't agree more! I am thinking seriously about writing to council asking for a please explain on both the industrial strip and the curb on Johnson Rd.
if you want something that resembles broadband and your new get a cheap wireless dongle and go wireless.
I have both ADSL with Internode and 3G wireless with Vodafone, however with my work commitments i need some decent bandwidth as i am supporting clients via remote desktop connections to all over the planet earth and i am just trying to get some small about of a full ADSL1 connection that we are all not getting.
I was the second house to build in the Parklands estate other than the display homes... I was fighting for 2 years for Tel$tra just upgrade the rim to even get ADSL at all.... so i know what it is like... the TIO use to know my by firstname and have me on speed dial. Yes i know ports are very very very very..... limited, however you have to try and it is a business service i am applying for and thought that may help.
The fix is here when I get 700k on my 8Mb plan and pings go under 100ms, I'm going with Tension 10-15 years is my predicted eta.
Well hopefully we will have NBN long before then and we can all say f**koff tel$tra! And if not i am seriously thinking of asking the locals if everyone want to throw in and share the costs and we get some fiber down here...
Seriously, dude, the wholesale reports could have told you there are no ports free. I was looking to do the same, and run a dual WAN 1.5MBit, but no ports!
I have been checking, BUT tel$tra not not real good at keeping actuate records i have found many times over the years (even the technician that came to the house told me this)... so i thought on a chance they have have a couple of port available that was not listed (yeah i know wishful thinking) and i am requesting a business service which does cost lots more $$ per month � so it was worth a shot.
You should have opted for a wireless plan, with a multi-wan router. IMO
Well i have something similar to this at the moment with ADSL1 and 3G, but am thinking maybe i will have to move to more than one 3G wireless connection...
Bloody shame we can't get Vivid down here.
So a quick one are wireless speeds in Wellard as bad as ADSL or any better?
Yes i did and was told that they didn't believe they would get a viable return on investment.... my read on it � Vivid doesn't think people in the area would either subscribe or could afford it... Bloody typical
HAHA in other words. "Kwinana is full of dero's that can't afford an Internet connection"
I love kwinana it's tops! We get everything :P
are wireless speeds in Wellard as bad as ADSL or any better?
Like,
How long is a piece of string?
How deep is a hole?
The problem with wireless is it's unknown. You could be in a location and the 3G is great. Or, could be utter rubbish.
My Sister-in-law runs wireless in Windsor hills (Exetel plan on Optus network), and the performance is fine. She has actually been very impressed with reliability and speed. I did educate her on the possible pitfalls of 3G internet, but so far, it's been good. Would have connected ADSL, but no free ports on the RIM.
Does anyone know who has the best value for money Wireless package?
Prefer no contracts etc.
So a quick one are wireless speeds in Wellard as bad as ADSL or any better?
Im in Wellard and on 3, and depending on the time of day and if Im standing on one leg, I get anywhere between roughly 256 to 1500 ADSL. I do have pretty poor signal though.
Vivid is nuts if they think they wouldnt get ROI down here and Bertram. There would be plenty of ppl who cant get ADSL and sick of shit wireless who would jump on it if it was available, I know I would.
Does anyone know who has the best value for money Wireless package?
Prefer no contracts etc.
I have the 3 6GB for $39. No contract if you purchase a USB modem outright.
Pity we can't get Vivid cause they have a $99 40GB plan. Best value for money I can see.
Spoke to vivid again yesterday � i have been now told that there is a plan to cover kwinana and bertram, however there is not eta on this coverage � but it could be expected in the next 6 months.
My advise is that everyone should ring them up and log their interest to help speed the process and show that there are people here that want it!
My advise is that everyone should ring them up and log their interest to help speed the process and show that there are people here that want it!
I did that yesterday after reading the threads about the speed they could achieve. The price is excellent too. Vivid would hold me over til the NBN and I would be happy to stop paying Telstra/Westnet money.
quota.. and peering quota :)
quota.. and peering quota :)
Not too bad.
I used to pay $85 for 30/60 with Exetel too, so that's a reasonable plan. But I jumped onto an unlimited off-peak plan for $65 now, much better :)
Exetel off-peak window is 12 hours instead of 7, which helps because of the crappy line speeds we have in Bertram :P
Our customers on ADSL Broadband 1 up to 8Mb plans experience speeds ranging from 1.5mbps/256kbps to 8mbps/384kbps.
Yeah...right! They should edit that, 1.5bps to 2.5mbps for Bertram RIM users...
flap YOU BERTRAM !
PING amnet.com.au (203.161.127.69): 56 data bytes
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wow im having serious issues just loading www.whirlpool.net.au tonight :(
This is the worst i have seen it.
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Yeah it was good for most of the weekend, but tonight it's turned to crud. Another night of lag lotto...
I hope to dear christ almighty that these backhaul upgrades do something...
QMDNAE2S4 is getting the software (not backhaul) upgrade on 4th June 2010, anyone know if they are on that?
165 WA MDNA QMDNAE2S4 04-Jun-10
Pinging westnet.com.au [202.72.148.215] with 32 bytes of data:
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Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=251
just got home and internet connection lost... restarted router and got awesome ping tonight. is it looking up???
so flapping random
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64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=8 ttl=123 time=36.074 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=9 ttl=123 time=34.310 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=10 ttl=123 time=35.250 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=11 ttl=123 time=37.525 ms
I'm still getting 27-30ms ping this morning at 10am... most of the time it's crashed by now
the kiddies must have ran out of torrents to download tonight!
47.7 Mbytes/02:40(s)/313.21Kbps
its back to shit here !
PING amnet.com.au (203.161.127.69): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=0 ttl=123 time=426.928 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=1 ttl=123 time=101.580 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=2 ttl=123 time=71.405 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=3 ttl=123 time=353.955 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=4 ttl=123 time=72.392 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=5 ttl=123 time=502.600 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=6 ttl=123 time=525.682 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=7 ttl=123 time=343.941 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=8 ttl=123 time=75.442 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=9 ttl=123 time=70.407 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=10 ttl=123 time=413.334 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=11 ttl=123 time=157.840 ms
Pinging westnet.com.au [202.72.148.215] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=251
Reply from 202.72.148.215: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=251
still going ok :)
"Hello,
As per our Agreement with Telstra Wholesale we cannot give out information about the way there Infrastructure is deployed or any specific information about Telstra�s Infrastructure.
As such Amnet as a ISP cannot release this specific piece of information.
But as stated before there are backhaul upgrades scheduled for the Medina area
Regards,
Amnet Failboy."
I translate that to we have no f'n clue.
what a croc of shit � amnet are turds
i should churn
Ouch, that sucks. Internode where happy to tell me. Churn to them, they are much better. ;)
Internet has been a bag-o-shit over the past week for me. Can't wait till 1 July.
Hi guys,
New Bertram home owner here. Living on Greenbrook Way, moving in mid June and looking at my broadband options. I'm currently with iiNet and called and they said there are ports available for adsl2 which sounded positive. I've never been with any other isps and am wondering if you can suggest the best option and why you think so. Why would you choose one isp over another for our area? Is it even worth getting adsl2 for the price, will speed always be an issue?
Thanks in advance for those who can give some insight. I read through this entire thread and the couple others and it was so much I'm a bit confused...haha.
-Don
Hi Don, and welcome to Bertram...
Greenbrook runs off Sanctuary Drv, ask paulc101 about speeds...
iiNET have port in the exchange, Bertram is serviced by RIMS so you cant get ADSL2 from ANY isp. ADSL1 may get fixed by the time you move in, I certainly have been hanging out for the fix for some time.
GREENBROOK WAY BRTRM (MDNA-DA093 0 Ports Free)
From adsl2 exhanges web site, also looks like wireless is about you only option unless more ports are added soon. You might be lucky and share an existing connection with a nearby neighbour? I share mine out with 2 others, bigger plan and shared costs. It's a win-win for all, and has worked for us for about 4 years now.
you're screwed mate
dont move to bertram if ya want decent internet
Now we just have to wait for all of the backhaul upgrades to be completed and we might see some significant improvement.
Goodluck guys u give us all stuck in rim congestion hell hope of a better internets.
The Telstra wholesale site indicates that the backhaul upgrades do in fact allow the removal of shaping on 8MBps services.
"This report identifies when specific DSLAMs have undergone a backhaul upgrade to allow removal of shaping from 8 Mb/s DSL-L2IG Services.
As of: 28/05/10. "
All I can say is if my SLAM doesn't get upgraded on Monday I will seriously consider moving out of this hell hole they call KWINANA.
After living almost 2 years here, I'm with you on moving out. It's bad enough ADSL2+ is not possible here, its ridiculous ADSL1 has to be substandard performance; even after 3 years of this thread being active, almost no progress.
Btw, is anyone here on DA094 which are the following streets according to access_broadband_minimux.xls?
MDNA DA094 CAMBORNE APP
MDNA DA094 CHARLTON WAY
MDNA DA094 CHELTENHAM LOOP
MDNA DA094 DEWSBURY DRV
MDNA DA094 EUSTON LINK
MDNA DA094 HEYFORD PDE
MDNA DA094 MILLBROOK AVE
MDNA DA094 PRICE PKWY
MDNA DA094 SILVERLINE BND
MDNA DA094 STRATFORD RD
I was wondering how the performance in this area is and what ISPs you are with.
well that was weird woke up to find my router was down.. Anyone else? Check logs and report back STAT! :)
Still hard shaped @ 3M.
PING amnet.com.au (203.161.127.69): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=0 ttl=123 time=31.241 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=1 ttl=123 time=36.487 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=2 ttl=123 time=33.487 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=3 ttl=123 time=34.363 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=4 ttl=123 time=33.893 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=5 ttl=123 time=33.238 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=6 ttl=123 time=31.676 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=7 ttl=123 time=33.161 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=8 ttl=123 time=34.086 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=9 ttl=123 time=35.670 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=10 ttl=123 time=33.172 ms
64 bytes from 203.161.127.69: icmp_seq=11 ttl=123 time=31.848 ms
You should get the full 8M Tuesday.
You are one of the lucky ones that Telstra hasn't shaped :P
No doubt your CMUX is limited to 4XE1's = 8M at the moment.
Trolling around here I see they are upgrading most to support 155M.
I am going to move in Nov. For other reasons but the net here in Wellard is just the worst ever.
i used to be capped
epic, never seen this before
Is it possible that you are on the DSLAM that was just "software upgraded" on the 4th June?
I haven't had any disconnections today so as far as I can tell no works have been completed yet. Still capped at 300kb/s as well.
I wonder if these guys will finish work at 4-5pm. The IINET outage notice stated times until 6:00am tomorrow morning. I don't think they will be working through the night.
Well inside of a minute my latency on WoW jumped from sub 400 to nearly 2000ms....who got home and started hitting Youtube?
Well inside of a minute my latency on WoW jumped from sub 400 to nearly 2000ms....who got home and started hitting Youtube?
Sounds like a typical day from back when I used to try and play online games :P (Before I gave up).
same, my WoW went to 3700 ping, unusual for 4pm, usually happens at about 6-7pm
I set off a few downloads today at about 12:00pm but they only took an hour. Was easily pulling 330kbs though.
no change to me, after ping spike, still getting 204 ping to Brisbane, 2.3MB/s according to Speedtest.net. If i stays like that I will be a happy man, but i cant see what has been done, if anything, unless we get no more slow downs
Just went back through the Westnet e-mail � interesting...
Due to planned Upgrades some Broadband ADSL Services in the area of Medina (WA) may be disrupted for up to 2 hours within the window 11:30pm to 6:00am (WST) commencing on Monday the 14th of June, 2010.
Check back in tomorrow morning fellas! Looks like Telstra are meant to be doing the work overnight (unless they get rained off!)
Don't count your chickens :p
Don't count your chickens :p
Don't be like that! Everyone knows Telstra is a hard working respectable company that would rather work through the late night rather than interrupt its customers just to save itself a few bucks.
Hang on..
I have doubts that the work will ever be completed.
I have MASSIVE doubts that any work is going to be undertaken between 11:30pm and 6:00am tonight/tomorrow.
Looks like this arvo's lag had other causes. Yeah Paul, I'm a bit too cynical to believe it will happen tonight...I'll wait and see.
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