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Bertram RIM ADSL2+ When/If Ever?? part 3

  • 2012-Oct-8, 1:30 pm
    cbr1000rr

    Tension writes...

    cbr can you post your attenuation / noise stats?

    I can but need help to find how?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 1:30 pm
    cbr1000rr

    Tension writes...

    cbr can you post your attenuation / noise stats?
    Downstream Upstream
    SNR Margin (0.1 dB) 56 90
    Attenuation (0.1 dB) 110 78
    Output Power (0.1 dBm) 179 121
    Attainable Rate (Kbps) 26120 1153
    Rate (Kbps) 24293 1020

  • 2012-Oct-8, 1:44 pm
    Azureal

    Tension writes...

    Looks like you are on same DA as me DA084 due for upgrade this month.

    That site shows me as DA089...

  • 2012-Oct-8, 1:44 pm
    Tension

    cbr that is nice. I have attenuation very similar to that :D

    Azureal.. unlucky mate DA089 is not on the list :(

    One street over and you would have been DA084.. Typical huh?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 1:51 pm
    grrofunger

    amnet cant tell me anything except they can see that it drops out during the day and is stable at night

    they have no idea

  • 2012-Oct-8, 1:51 pm
    Tension

    You can ask Amnet to send out Telstra to investigate the fault.

    If they find nothing however you will be slugged.

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:01 pm
    grrofunger

    he reset the port

    suggested a lower profile to help stability if needed

    ??

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:01 pm
    grrofunger

    thanks tension

    do you know how much?

    knowing my luck it will somehow be my fault � like my dog pissed on some tiny crack in the paving that has trickled down and hit the telstra cable then rolled onto the connection terminals and caused all the dropouts

    and it will probably be affecting the entire street along with the shops and the school and i will be up for a fortune.

    jokes aside � i thought it might be something like that � or a mouse eating a cable in the roof or something really vague and stupid

    but if it was something like that wouldnt i get dropouts at night too?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:47 pm
    Tension

    From memory its like $300..

    The problem is if the issue is not occuring at the time he may not be able to find it.

    Is the issue repeated in some kind of pattern or can it happen at any time in the day?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:47 pm
    Tension

    mojo any work around that cabinet near the old lake?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:50 pm
    grrofunger
    this post was edited

    here's the last couple of days:

    Thursday, 4 October 2012 1:16 PM Friday, 5 October 2012 9:56 AM 0 Days, 20:39:0

    Stable all afternoon and night until dropout Friday morning.

    Friday, 5 October 2012 9:56 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 10:09 AM 0 Days, 0:12:0

    Online for 12 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 10:09 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 10:24 AM 0 Days, 0:14:0

    Online for 14 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 10:24 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 10:45 AM 0 Days, 0:20:0

    Online for 20 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 10:45 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 10:47 AM 0 Days, 0:1:0

    Online for 1 minute

    Friday, 5 October 2012 10:46 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 11:19 AM 0 Days, 0:32:0

    Online for 32 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 11:19 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 11:44 AM 0 Days, 0:24:0

    Online for 24 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 11:44 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 11:48 AM 0 Days, 0:3:0

    Online for 3 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 11:48 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 11:51 AM 0 Days, 0:2:0

    Online for 2 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 11:51 AM Friday, 5 October 2012 12:36 PM 0 Days, 0:45:0

    Online for 45 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 1:04 PM Friday, 5 October 2012 2:36 PM 0 Days, 1:31:0

    Online for 1 hour, 31 minutes

    Friday, 5 October 2012 2:36 PM Saturday, 6 October 2012 9:25 AM 0 Days, 18:48:0

    Back to being stable for the afternoon and night

    Saturday day the dropouts commence again

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 9:25 AM Saturday, 6 October 2012 9:52 AM 0 Days, 0:26:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 9:52 AM Saturday, 6 October 2012 9:56 AM 0 Days, 0:3:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 9:57 AM Saturday, 6 October 2012 10:13 AM 0 Days, 0:15:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 10:13 AM Saturday, 6 October 2012 10:31 AM 0 Days, 0:17:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 10:30 AM Saturday, 6 October 2012 11:44 AM 0 Days, 1:13:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 11:44 AM Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:47 PM 0 Days, 1:2:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:53 PM Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:53 PM 0 Days, 0:0:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:53 PM Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:53 PM 0 Days, 0:0:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:47 PM Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:53 PM 0 Days, 0:5:0

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:57 PM Saturday, 6 October 2012 12:57 PM 0 Days, 0:0:0

    cant be bothered copying anymore � this went on all day until...

    Saturday, 6 October 2012 5:07 PM Sunday, 7 October 2012 1:33 PM 0 Days, 20:25:0

    then repeat again

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:50 pm
    *mojo*

    Tension writes...

    mojo any work around that cabinet near the old lake?

    Not a thing, even the lake works seems to have slowed..and the road works, whats with that?

    I got my ISP to apply for ADSL2+ on the Friday when I saw the top hat fitted, all that can happen is it's rejected at some stage. I'll just re-apply.

    Just wonder if being on the homeline basic will stop Telstra from changing to 2+?? Was thinking they may have a flag on their system which will reject the app each time. So I might up the phone plan just in case, don't know if anyone knows more on this?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:53 pm
    Quentin Rittman

    *mojo* writes...

    Just wonder if being on the homeline basic will stop Telstra from changing to 2+?? Was thinking they may have a flag on their system which will reject the app each time. So I might up the phone plan just in case, don't know if anyone knows more on this?

    not going to be an issue at all.

  • 2012-Oct-8, 2:53 pm
    Azureal

    So no upgrade for me in the foreseeable future. NBN will arrive before Telstra get anything done.

    This sucks balls.

  • 2012-Oct-8, 3:05 pm
    Tension
    this post was edited

    mojo no point applying until you see OPEN 2 PASS.

    www.pacific.net.au/servicequal

    Currently: Result: Open 2 (Zone 1) , Fail

  • 2012-Oct-8, 3:05 pm
    Tension

    mojo can you paste your results?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 3:21 pm
    *mojo*

    Tension writes...

    mojo can you paste your results?

    Still says no deal...

    And I had a look for the "G" and not to be seen yet. It will probably take a bit for the application to get rejected, or it might stay in the system..who knows...

    Fingers crossed

  • 2012-Oct-8, 3:21 pm
    Tension

    Why is there two cabinets side by side? One has a tophat one doesnt.. That is weird. It is most definitely not an ISAM or we would have had ADSL2+ already with no tophat required.

    The one up on Budd Way services DA089.

    So I believe my DA084 is in that same cabinet as DA077.. No idea how to know for sure but the maps seem to indicate this.

    http://www.telstrawholesale.com.au/download/document/MDNA-P77-Area-Layout.pdf

    Thoughts?

  • 2012-Oct-8, 3:33 pm
    Tension

    Whats taking so loooooooooong!!!!!

  • 2012-Oct-8, 3:33 pm
    Kraymer

    They keep getting stuck in traffic and by the time they get there, it's time to clock off? No sign of them hauling fibre or has that already happened? Seemed to be visible action around Hammond Park/Success when they were pulling in new fibre.

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:03 pm
    1forsorrow

    Result: Open 2 (Zone 1) , Pass , Y001 , Product is supported.

    I presume that I need to get Westnet to do something to get my router connecting as ADSL2...I've asked them to put a speed upgrade through on my line � although apparently my account is already on the ADSL2+ plan.

    Hopefully it can get sorted anyway. I've waited this many years, another couple of days _shouldn't_ matter.

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:03 pm
    Ghostrider1971

    Change submitted through iiNet toolbox :)

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:04 pm
    Tension

    Cazart! writes...

    although apparently my account is already on the ADSL2+ plan.

    Not sure how that's possible. They are completely different line codes. You definitely need to ring them and get it swapped over.

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:04 pm
    1forsorrow

    Yeah it seemed strange, although it is possible that Westnet separate the accounts from the line codes. I'll see what happens anyways.

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:16 pm
    Tension

    Yes it is strange. They have to pay Telstra more for an ADSL2+ port don't they?

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:16 pm
    *mojo*

    Application submitted, can't wait :)

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:34 pm
    Tension

    I must have rebooted my router like 10x lol.

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:34 pm
    1forsorrow

    Got a message back from WestNet � they are basically waiting on Telstra to update their systems so that they can proceed with a line speed change request. Interesting that Amnet are able to go ahead, but not interesting enough for me to investigate further :)

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:56 pm
    Tension

    OK may take a little while to go through then..

  • 2012-Oct-30, 3:56 pm
    Tension
    this post was edited

    Looks like i'm still synching at 8M but check out the ping change..

    Pinging www.ii.net [203.173.50.151] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 203.173.50.151: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=248
    Reply from 203.173.50.151: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=248
    Reply from 203.173.50.151: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=248
    Reply from 203.173.50.151: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=248

    Ping statistics for 203.173.50.151:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 7ms

    WTF?

    What is everyone else getting?

  • 2012-Oct-30, 4:32 pm
    1forsorrow

    Westnet's systems allowed me to request a speed change last night. Still syncing at 8Mbps this morning however, but it can take up to 4 days to process apparently so all good.

  • 2012-Oct-30, 4:32 pm
    Tension

    Whats your ping to first hop Cazart?

  • 2012-Oct-30, 4:38 pm
    1forsorrow

    traceroute to westnet.com.au (203.173.50.152), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
    1 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 1.051 ms 0.726 ms 0.725 ms
    2 nexthop.wa.iinet.net.au (203.215.5.243) 7.610 ms 8.087 ms 7.629 ms

  • 2012-Oct-30, 4:38 pm
    cbr1000rr

    Line Rate � Upstream (Kbps) 1013
    Line Rate � Downstream (Kbps) 23530

    Tension writes...

    What is everyone else getting?

  • 2012-Oct-30, 5:02 pm
    Ghostrider1971

    cbr1000rr writes...

    Line Rate � Upstream (Kbps) 1013
    Line Rate � Downstream (Kbps) 23530

    Nice... when did yours go through ???

  • 2012-Oct-30, 5:02 pm
    Tension
    this post was edited

    Type Interleave Path
    Status SHOWTIME
    Downstream Upstream
    Data rate(Kbps) 22798 916
    Noise Margin 12 4294967286
    Output power(dBm) 0 16
    Attenuation(dB) 11 7

    I'm getting some drop outs.. Might be my crappy belkin surf router..

    Local FTP speeds

    2,281.23Kbps
    2,046.66Kbps
    2,158.34Kbps
    2,101.72Kbps
    2,121.16Kbps
    2,125.40Kbps

  • 2012-Oct-30, 5:23 pm
    1forsorrow

    Congratulations! Still syncing at 8128/384 here, but soon hopefully...

  • 2012-Oct-30, 5:23 pm
    Tension
    this post was edited

    Yea shouldn't be long

    Speeds seem to drop off in peak times..

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/2276409352.png

    Getting epic drop outs.. but I heard that happened for a few ppl for the first few days? Duno what thats about.

  • 1forsorrow
    this post was edited

    Still 8138/384 here. I'll restart the modem tonight after work and see what happens.

    EDIT: Spreadsheet was renewed today, DA077 is still not listed as active, although DA090/091 came online on the 31st. What area are you in Tension?

  • Tension

    I am DA084 which is in the same cabinet. Don't worry your speed change will go through soon.

  • 2012-Nov-1, 9:46 pm
    Ghostrider1971

    Cazart! writes...

    Still 8138/384 here. I'll restart the modem tonight after work and see what happens.

    Also on DA077

    I checked with my ISP yesterday (iiNet) as I done my speed upgrade request the other day through toolbox.
    Apparently my account is scheduled to be done by Telstra on the 2nd. So no panicking yet lol

  • 2012-Nov-1, 9:46 pm
    1forsorrow

    Today is a good day,,,

    DSP Firmware Version DMT FwVer: 3.10.5.60_A_TC, HwVer:T14F7_5.0
    DMT Status Up
    Operational Mode ADSL2+
    Upstream 1017 kbps
    Downstream 23940 kbps
    SNR Margin (Upstream) 7.4 db
    SNR Margin (Downstream) 6.1 db
    Line Attenuation (Upstream) 5.6 db
    Line Attenuation (Downstream) 4.5 db

    Pity I have to go to work now :)

  • 2012-Nov-2, 10:15 am
    Tension

    nice one gotta love those attenuation figures.. you must be really close.

  • 2012-Nov-2, 10:15 am
    Ghostrider1971

    Upstream 1020200
    Downstream 23632100
    Elapsed Time 0 day 8 hr 27 min 25 sec
    SNR Margin(Upstream) 10.5 dB
    SNR Margin(Downstream) 6.00 dB
    Line Attenuation(Upstream) 7.0 dB
    Line Attenuation(Downstream) 21.0 dB

    I'm next to Bertram Primary school.

  • 2012-Nov-2, 4:11 pm
    Tension

    What router you got GhostRider? That is a very good sync for those attenuation levels. Seriously thinking of getting rid of this belkin (I don't get full upstream sync).

    ADSL
    Type Interleave Path
    Status SHOWTIME
    Downstream Upstream
    Data rate(Kbps) 22519 926
    Noise Margin 12 13
    Output power(dBm) 12 16
    Attenuation(dB) 11 7

    With these attenuation figures I should be maxing! Thinking about getting a Billion.

  • 2012-Nov-2, 4:11 pm
    1forsorrow

    I'm less than 100m from the RIM cabinet � I'm on Chipperton Road, so nice and close. Billion router as well � a 7300 RA.

    Happy days...

  • grrofunger

    Ghostrider1971 writes...

    Upstream 1020200
    Downstream 23632100
    Elapsed Time 0 day 8 hr 27 min 25 sec
    SNR Margin(Upstream) 10.5 dB
    SNR Margin(Downstream) 6.00 dB
    Line Attenuation(Upstream) 7.0 dB
    Line Attenuation(Downstream) 21.0 dB

    I'm next to Bertram Primary school.

    WTF. What street ?

    I could piss on the school from my house and yet I'm on DA80 and can't get an upgrade

  • Ghostrider1971

    BiPAC 7404VNX � Great modem for ADSL2 (Forget it for using wireless thou)

    grrofunger writes...

    I could piss on the school from my house and yet I'm on DA80 and can't get an upgrade

    LOL � I am directly opposite the school and can do the same, but this house was prob built when only DA077 existed I am guessing.

  • 2012-Nov-2, 6:38 pm
    Muzuars

    Correction, Emerald park is connected to two different cabinets, one of which is p77 (first connection) now also has a second feed to another cabinet (CA number escapes me) in Bertram as well. You could be on either and or swap between. I have swapped people between before.

  • 2012-Nov-2, 6:38 pm
    Muzuars

    P77 has two cabinets because they could not fit all the ADSL1 ports in the original RIM and then built the ADSL1 CMUX ports in the second cabinet. They have a tie cable between. IE one does dial tone, one does ADSL1. (Now ADSL2+ with the top hat)

  • grrofunger

    Might see if I can swap then. I bet there would no ports available for a transposition though

  • grrofunger

    Oh and i built my house before the school was complete and even before champion drive extended past the school site. It used to be a dead end in that direction and just dirt road

  • 2012-Nov-2, 8:59 pm
    Ghostrider1971

    grrofunger writes...

    Oh and i built my house before the school was complete and even before champion drive extended past the school site. It used to be a dead end in that direction and just dirt road

    Hmm same as us then..... looks like you got jipped.

    Hopefully you can get moved, apparently there are more ports with top hat now ????? Not sure.

  • 2012-Nov-2, 8:59 pm
    cbr1000rr

    Looks like you finally got some speed Tension

    Tension writes...

    ADSL
    Type Interleave Path
    Status SHOWTIME
    Downstream Upstream
    Data rate(Kbps) 22519 926
    Noise Margin 12 13
    Output power(dBm) 12 16
    Attenuation(dB) 11 7

  • 2012-Nov-2, 9:25 pm
    Tension

    Not as good as your sync haha..

    Seems to have settled down now with the drop outs so might just stick with the Belkin.. I think I would get better sync with a Billion though..

    Pretty happy with it. I notice speeds drop in peak periods but not a big issue.

    Who needs NBN eh? :P

  • 2012-Nov-2, 9:25 pm
    grrofunger

    Me

  • 2012-Nov-2, 9:38 pm
    Tension

    Only another year mate.. Whats another year after waiting 5 eh?

  • 2012-Nov-2, 9:38 pm
    Leong

    Tension writes...

    Only another year mate.. Whats another year after waiting 5 eh?

    Unless NBN comes to its senses and decides to redo the roll out plan ...
    They are getting into trouble with delays supporting new releases, this has to cause a change.

    Perhaps they may decide to installs to slow to zero speed areas only at first , to ensure higher % uptake....

  • 2012-Nov-2, 9:42 pm
    Orphelinus

    My port got changed today... took an intervention by the Social Media team at Telstra to put the order in (after the phone guy didn't submit an order), but it is all good now!

    On "DA 111".

  • 2012-Nov-2, 9:42 pm
    Tension

    Speed? DA111 is in Emerald Park right? At least 1KM away?

  • 2012-Dec-1, 11:56 am
    Tension

    Haha good on ya bro..

    Got a nice little pamphlet from Telstra yesterday. ADSL2+ now available!! $80 for 50G. OMG where do I sign?!

  • 2012-Dec-1, 11:56 am
    grrofunger

    Thinking of buying a different house in Bertram � its on DA084

    cant remember � was that tophatted?

  • 2012-Dec-14, 5:34 pm
    Tension

    Yes thats my DA. Prob run out of ports now though ;)

  • 2012-Dec-14, 5:34 pm
    Leong

    grrofunger writes...

    Thinking of buying a different house in Bertram � its on DA084

    cant remember � was that tophatted?

    Yes,

    MDNAP77 MDNA Medina WA 6167 77;84;111 MDNA-P77-Area-Layout.pdf MDNA-P77-Map-MDNA-DA111.pdf MDNA-P77-Map-MDNA-DA84.pdf MDNA-P77-Map-MDNA-DA77.pdf Oct-2012 05-Nov-12 QMDNAE11M QMDNAE4007M

  • 2012-Dec-14, 6:34 pm
    grrofunger

    Tension writes...

    Yes thats my DA. Prob run out of ports now though ;)

    hahah yeah probably � that would be my luck

  • 2012-Dec-14, 6:34 pm
    grrofunger

    what a flapping day in Bertram !

  • 2012-Dec-14, 8:23 pm
    1forsorrow

    I was up at a mate's place north of the river drinking and gaming Saturday. Where was the fire?

  • 2012-Dec-14, 8:23 pm
    grrofunger

    started behind the school , went right up through the bush behind the shops, then up johnson road towards thomas road, jumped johnson and up towards 'the sanctuary' then kept going up past that old car wreckage place near the servo and onto the freeway

    was massive

  • 2012-Dec-15, 12:17 am
    Tension

    NBN Fibre to commence next month :D

  • 2012-Dec-15, 12:17 am
    grrofunger

    excuse me while i go change my pants

  • 2012-Dec-30, 12:06 am
    1forsorrow

    Reference Tension? All i could find was construction starting in Medina next month, with TBA still on other suburbs in the area.

    Don't get me wrong, I really, really, REALLY want you to be right :)

  • 2012-Dec-30, 12:06 am
    grrofunger

    Yeah i dont think we will see any physical activity for some time especially when construction commencing is worded as such:

    "Construction commenced relates to the phase of work in an area where contract instructions have been issued and our construction partners can commence work on detailed design and field inspections. It also refers to the date that NBN Co releases the rollout map for your area and signals the beginning of engagement with your local community and council."

    and pretty much all of Leda,Orelia,Bertram is highlighted as:

    "Construction to commence within one year � we will commence construction in your area from Feb 2013 in phases with last construction scheduled to commence in Nov 2013*."

    so we could have contracts issued Feb right up to Nov? and then they can start doing inspections !??!

    when does the digging and laying start? 2014 ?!?!

    we wont see a service until 2015, it says average time to service from 'construction commencing' to be 12 months but i seriously doubt we will have Active NBN services by Feb 14 or even Nov 14

  • 2012-Dec-31, 12:02 pm
    Tension

    Yes the whole Kwinana area has a Feb 13 � Nov 13 timeline.

    So construction will definitely commence this year. When it is actually available though is anyone's guess.

  • 2012-Dec-31, 12:02 pm
    Ezekyle

    I read it the way groffunger did. Their wording states that the NBN will be available 12mths AFTER the construction phase ie 2015

  • 2012-Dec-31, 7:04 pm
    Muzuars

    There's been an NBN cabinet installed just off Calista Ave, Calista near the dry cleaners and deli since before christmas...

  • 2012-Dec-31, 7:04 pm
    grrofunger

    flap calista

  • 2013-Jan-6, 7:00 pm
    Tension

    Anyone online atm? PPP auth fail here according to amnet telstra outage to medina area?

  • 2013-Jan-6, 7:00 pm
    grrofunger

    im with amnet and online

  • 2013-Jan-6, 9:33 pm
    Tension

    Well thats weird. I get line sync but looking at logs router is unable to find any PPP servers. I rekn Telstra have fkd up

  • 2013-Jan-6, 9:33 pm
    grrofunger

    im not tophatted

    could that be why we are different?

  • daveing
    this post was edited

    Long time, no visit from me. Everything's been OK.

    Until last Thursday. Since then, all activity has slowed.

    I was fine with the WWOS live cast of the TDU on the lowest quality setting Mon to Wed then from Thursday on it would constantly drop audio and frequently buffer. My internet radio feeds have also been suffering, dropping out many times/day. Youtube loads are terrible. Even a simple refresh of a BOM data page takes 5+ seconds.

    The speedtest of my 8Mbps Dodo connection reveals nothing wayward: 121ms / 2.79Mbps / 0.26Mbps.

    Chrome on xp and vista.

    update: Dodo issues....

  • Tension

    So Telstra decide to give my port to someone else. GG.

    Finally sorted.. Geez.

  • 2013-Jan-30, 7:58 pm
    1forsorrow

    Interesting development on the NBN front: construction in the Kwinana area was scheduled to be in four stages, with the final stage commencing in November 2013. As of the latest one year rollout plan, construction is now scheduled for three stages, with the final stage commencing in June 2013.

    Potentially good news.

  • 2013-Jan-30, 7:58 pm
    Tension

    Yep looks like first phase has started in Medina. No doubt we will be last lol!

  • 2013-Feb-12, 12:48 pm
    Ezekyle

    Cazart! writes...

    final stage commencing in June 2013.

    Just in time for my birthday, would be a nice present :)

  • 2013-Feb-12, 12:48 pm
    cbr1000rr

    Can't wait to get connected to 100mb's plan

  • 2013-Feb-17, 9:12 am
    grrofunger

    http://www.nbnco.com.au/assets/documents/rollout-info-1-year-construction-plan.pdf

    search Bertram on there

    we are part of 'South Coogee' which is 'non metropolitan' apparently

    last FSAM construction should commence by June 2013

  • 2013-Feb-17, 9:12 am
    grrofunger

    ok my bad lol

    just a few posts up Cazart already mentioned the bring forward date to June 2013

  • 2013-Feb-17, 10:14 am
    daveing

    grrofunger writes...

    ok my bad lol

    Some good news is worth repeating...

  • 2013-Feb-17, 10:14 am
    daveing

    Wellard NBN thread here....

    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2019474

  • 2013-Feb-20, 12:38 pm
    Tension

    Any news or updates on the NBN front in Kwinana / Berty area?

  • 2013-Feb-20, 12:38 pm
    risq

    Morning All! Been a while since I've posted in here.

    Looks like constructions is scheduled to commence by July 30, this is what comes up when I type my address in on the nbnco.com.au -> when do I get it? page.

    I haven't had much trouble with my ADSL connection, constantly getting about 1.7MBs downloads. There have been one or two issues but I think they were moreso to do with my provider (II) than the hardware in Bertram.

    I see construction has slowed on the new community centre near the shops! I don't know why they even bothered.

  • 2013-Feb-20, 2:47 pm
    daveing

    paulc writes...

    I see construction has slowed on the new community centre near the shops! I don't know why they even bothered.

    I know someone who is keen to hold portraiture classes there. Bring it on.

    Oh, and it will also keep the park over Johnson Rd clear of the pollies next state election. The park is for kids.

  • 2013-Feb-20, 2:47 pm
    daveing

    Good news Sanctuary Reserve and Price Parkway Estates, Bertram.

    NBN status changed last week to construction started (March 2013).... oh yeah.

  • 2013-Feb-20, 2:48 pm
    risq

    daveing writes...

    NBN status changed last week to construction started (March 2013).... oh yeah.

    Excellent! My address is in the area.

  • 2013-Feb-20, 2:48 pm
    risq

    Lets just hope it's close enough to completion before the election or it may get canned!

  • 2013-Feb-20, 7:47 pm
    daveing

    Given how quiet this thread is, maybe it's just my service.

    Over the last week or so we have been having internet outages during the day for an hour or so. I assumed some work was being done somewhere. Connection speed when reinstated was normal.

    Yesterday our reinstated connection was terrible � 500+ms pings and 470Kbs downloads. (Usually 110 ms, 3.5Mbps)

    Today, outage as per usual. After about an hour, reinstated as per regular speeds. Then another outage... that is still going. 10hrs.

    By 2pm I was investigating. Dodo has a Customer Service Guarantee Exemption in place for many parts of south west WA... as does iPrimus... as does Telstra.
    https://accountmanagement.dodo.com.au/status/
    http://www.iprimus.com.au/msd/
    http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/commitments/mass-service-disruption/

    Services expected to be back to normal by 7th June. Also found that the phone line is down. Probably was in all the above cases.

    Have been in touch with Dodo through their critical support email. Waiting....

    Anyone else seeing anything like this? � the day time outages or the current on-going outage?

  • 2013-Feb-20, 7:47 pm
    daveing

    Back up @ 10am. No phone / internet for 23 hrs. Speeds back to normal though. :-)

  • 2013-Feb-28, 9:21 am
    Tension

    Anyone able to post a speed test on RIM in Berty?

    http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2856899069

    I seem to have my threads capped lately. Can max my connection with multi thread only. Local transfers seem to cap out at about 14Mbit.

    Billion 7800N here.

    Anyone else?

    ADSL Status
    Parameters
    DSP Firmware Version A2pB025f.d22k
    DMT Status No Defect
    Operational Mode ADSL2+
    Upstream 923
    Downstream 21414
    SNR Margin(Upstream) 12.9
    SNR Margin(Downstream) 6.3
    Line Attenuation(Upstream) 9.4
    Line Attenuation(Downstream) 13.0

  • 2013-Feb-28, 9:21 am
    grrofunger

    http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/2857203155

    Type Interleave Path
    Status SHOWTIME

    Downstream Upstream
    Data rate(Kbps)
    8160Kb 384Kb
    Noise Margin
    16 6
    Output power(dBm)
    58 198
    Attenuation(dB)
    10 9

  • Leong
    this post was edited

    Well there is some sort of issue out there . http://servicestatus.telstra.com/servicestatus/goc.do?q=postcode_6167.html&postcode=6167

    The service status shows faults that affect many users, but not neccessarily "MSD" level ( http://www.telstra.com.au/consumer-advice/customer-service/mass-service-disruption/ there's probably one of these for you too. ) Also they may put internal ADSL faults at lower priority than storm damage repairs. ...so they can repair faults that may get worse if its not repaired quick.

    Anyway the service status website lets you know when its fixed, and if after they fixed the servicestatus issue you still have a problem you might assume they won't ever fix the problem because its specific to you.

  • daveing

    and we are back...

  • 2014-Nov-3, 5:45 pm
    daveing

    Anyone happy to join me in some comparative speed testing? We want to go with another ISP but want to be sure we are getting better performance for up to double the spend.

    I'm with Dodo and though the price is great and the phone support are very nice, the congestion at peak times and the number of outages we've had are giving us reason to look elsewhere. (50-60% outages have been due to Telstra hardware but in some cases compounded by Dodo)

    For a rough idea, we are just north of Sanctuary Reserve, sync at 14Mbps and speedtest.net at 6-9Mbps most of the time. Peak times though are down to 1.5Mbps. Ping is 110msec. (Internode in Perth)

    So what testing?
    Maybe 3 consecutive test twice a day over three days? Two weekdays and a weekend? Peak time and any other time that suits? Any other suggestions?

    Let me know if you want do this and we'll agree to times so we've got a more accurate result.

  • 2014-Nov-3, 5:45 pm
    risq

    I like on Sanctuary Drive close to the daycare and new community centre. I sync at around 21mb and am always able to achieve max throughput whenever downloading. (WestNet). Haven't had any congestion issues since the work was done on our RIM and then they did the ADSL top hat upgrade on top of that.

  • 2014-Nov-5, 4:06 pm
    Motion2082

    17Mbps from Moston Cres (iinet)

  • 2014-Nov-5, 4:06 pm
    daveing

    risq writes...

    around 21mb and am always able to achieve max throughput whenever downloading. (WestNet)
    So that's the iinet network yes?

    Motion2082 writes...

    17Mbps from Moston Cres (iinet)
    Is that sync or speedtest.net?

    Out of interest, what score does google give your ISP in the video quality report?
    www.google.com/get/videoqualityreport/

    And if you play this youtube video at 720p in the early to mid evening, does it play through OK or does it need to buffer every 30 seconds?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJoVjOk1SVY

    Thanks for the feedback.

  • Motion2082
    this post was edited

    daveing writes...

    So that's the iinet network yes?

    telstra network, iinet turbo pack

    Is that sync or speedtest.net?

    speedtest.net

    sync is 21Mbps

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJoVjOk1SVY

    Plays fine :) 1min 30 buffered ahead of current play position

    We are all on the RIM so things can get congested at peak times

  • daveing

    Any current Bertram-Internode stories out there? They generally have a good wrap, and if there is no speed advantage with iinet I had might as well pocket the change.

  • 2014-Nov-6, 8:59 pm
    Motion2082

    daveing writes...

    and if there is no speed advantage with iinet I had might as well pocket the change.

    Only reason I went iinet was to get the FREE line installation Waiver ($299)

    Otherwise I would have went Westnet

  • 2014-Nov-6, 8:59 pm
    daveing
    this post was edited

    So am I correct in assuming that most in Bertram-land do not have your connection this morning? (post storm)

    edit
    Why is it that only Bertam is listed for outages in the 6167 area?
    http://servicestatus.telstra.com/servicestatus/goc.do?q=postcode_6167.html&postcode=6167

    It's not like we are the only suburb with that postcode....

    edit2
    another power supply failure � the second in 10 days.

    Telstra, thanks for tophatting. We appreciate it. Can you please fix whatever so that our suburb doesn't have an outage very few weeks....

  • 2014-Nov-6, 10:07 pm
    Motion2082

    daveing writes...

    So am I correct in assuming that most in Bertram-land do not have your connection this morning? (post storm)

    Did not have time to check this morning...

    I wish IINET would install a DSLAM in Bertram....or better yet, roll out a FIBRE optic NBN from Wellard (literally the next suburb over)

    I feel your pain Dave. I dislike TELSTRA with a Passion. They are at the top of my shit list followed by FOXTEL

  • 2014-Nov-6, 10:07 pm
    Jayger
    this post was edited

    Im potentially moving to the new Wellard Square area (Chipping Cresent just off Lambeth Cre), i work for amcom and asked one of the guys in amnet to do a check on the address for me. No NBN plans to extended the rollout, no ports left on the exchange up in Kwinana, currently running on Pair Gain. Its the great F***you, you cant have internet ever, ive ever seen.

  • Motion2082

    Jayger writes...

    Its the great F***you, you cant have internet ever, ive ever seen.

    Welcome to Kwinana :)

    I was on Vivid Wireles for the first 2.5 years, you wait a little longer but at least you have internet

  • Dinudur

    I live in Bertram and still don't have the net. There an eta on the fix?

  • 2014-Nov-6, 10:39 pm
    daveing

    Dinudur writes...

    There an eta on the fix?

    No ETA yet. Dodo are too busy to answer the call.

    Who is your ISP Dinudur?

  • 2014-Nov-6, 10:39 pm
    Dinudur

    Iinet

  • 2014-Nov-7, 9:15 am
    Motion2082

    My Internet is still working on Moston Cres (IINET)

  • 2014-Nov-7, 9:15 am
    risq

    Mine is still down on Sanctuary Drive.

  • daveing

    Yep still down here on Waterfields Dr.

    Just called Dodo and whilst there is no ETA on the fix, she called Telstra while I waited and after that call told me that "Telstra are working very hard to fix the problem".

    Feel free to call your ISP so they can get in Telstra's ear also.

  • daveing
    this post was edited

    There's a few issues logged in Medina now too. (PSTN & ADSL)
    http://servicestatus.telstra.com/servicestatus/goc.do?q=postcode_6167.html&postcode=6167

    edit
    ...and a few hours later Bertram has some PSTN faults logged also. I get no dial tone atm.

    How do I read this? Telstra's doing a bit of an overhaul for improved reliability. We will find out I suppose.

  • 2014-Nov-11, 8:11 pm
    risq

    Back online

  • 2014-Nov-11, 8:11 pm
    daveing

    risq writes...

    Back online

    Indeed. And I've got the best link rate I've had � 19545 Kbps (19.5Mbps). Congestion is still taking a hit though � 2.66Mbps.

    Apart form the pain of two days downtime � net result is a win. Thanks Telstra.

  • 2014-Nov-11, 9:10 pm
    Motion2082

    Hey Guys,

    Noticed 3 Big Telstra Vans on Thomas Road / Orelia this morning working on the Telstra Pit. Must have been some major repairs.

    http://tinyurl.com/kr7mxc2

  • 2014-Nov-11, 9:10 pm
    risq

    My speeds are actually worse since coming back online. Used to be able to max out downloads at 1.8mb/s and now it's only hitting 1.0mb/s :(

    What have you done Telstra!!!

  • Motion2082

    Give it a couple more days, I'm sure a lot of testing/adjusting is still happenning as we speak

  • risq

    Motion2082 writes...

    Give it a couple more days, I'm sure a lot of testing/adjusting is still happenning as we speak

    Yeah I think it might have come good again.

    I wonder if we will ever get NBN in Bertram :( I remember before the Libs took over my area said it had been due to start construction or had just started (it was marked that for like 12 months), obviously a lie.

  • 2014-Nov-12, 10:09 pm
    daveing

    risq writes...

    Yeah I think it might have come good again.
    What speed test do you use risq?

    obviously a lie.
    We had some NBNco blokes in our front yard 3x times about 18 months ago, pulling ropes in the Telstra pit. So work had officially started. They did however say that we shouldn't expect it within 24 months. Of course everything has changed now.

  • 2014-Nov-12, 10:09 pm
    Motion2082

    I'm down from 17Mbps to 13Mbps tonight, keeps dropping in and out

    daveing writes...

    We had some NBNco blokes in our front yard 3x times about 18 months ago, pulling ropes in the Telstra pit. So work had officially started. They did however say that we shouldn't expect it within 24 months. Of course everything has changed now.

    I remember seeing this, hands down the worst thing that has happened since Libs came to power...no NBN

  • 2014-Nov-13, 9:19 am
    daveing

    Hey Motion, risq and other's � how's your ping to:
    login.worldoftanks.asia

    I't my only MMO game at the moment but my pings are often up around 230ms. Another iinet customer in Perth says he's getting 60ms but that is 'on net'. We cannot get 'on net' as we are on a rim, but am interested to see if your figures are comparative to his.

    How to do a ping test (saves asking if required):
    https://iihelp.iinet.net.au/How_to_do_a_ping_test

  • 2014-Nov-13, 9:19 am
    Motion2082
    this post was edited

    daveing writes...

    Hey Motion, risq and other's � how's your ping to:
    login.worldoftanks.asia

    Hi Dave,

    Here is my PING results :)

    From MBPr Wireless

    Ping has started�

    PING login.worldoftanks.asia (92.223.16.65): 56 data bytes
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=77.623 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=72.110 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=72.177 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=75.773 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=79.894 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=5 ttl=57 time=80.720 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=6 ttl=57 time=75.668 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=7 ttl=57 time=76.069 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=8 ttl=57 time=77.955 ms
    64 bytes from 92.223.16.65: icmp_seq=9 ttl=57 time=78.323 ms

    --- login.worldoftanks.asia ping statistics ---
    10 packets transmitted, 10 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
    round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 72.110/76.631/80.720/2.743 ms

    From Win8.1 LAN

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600]
    � 2013 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Windows\system32>ping login.worldoftanks.asia

    Pinging login.worldoftanks.asia [92.223.16.66] with 32 bytes of data:
    Reply from 92.223.16.66: bytes=32 time=78ms TTL=57
    Reply from 92.223.16.66: bytes=32 time=72ms TTL=57
    Reply from 92.223.16.66: bytes=32 time=75ms TTL=57
    Reply from 92.223.16.66: bytes=32 time=71ms TTL=57

    Ping statistics for 92.223.16.66:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 71ms, Maximum = 78ms, Average = 74ms

    C:\Windows\system32>

    daveing writes...

    Another iinet customer in Perth says he's getting 60ms but that is 'on net'. We cannot get 'on net' as we are on a rim, but am interested to see if your figures are comparative to his.

    My plan is the Off Net Home2 Turbo with Turbo Pack applied

  • 2014-Nov-13, 12:26 pm
    daveing

    Motion2082 writes...

    72.110/76.631/80.720
    Minimum = 71ms, Maximum = 78ms, Average = 74ms
    Sweet. Nice work there Motion.

    Off Net Home2 Turbo with Turbo Pack
    I see the Off Net Home2 pack that becomes Turbo when you select the ADSL2 speed. Is this it or is there an additional turbo pack somewhere?

  • 2014-Nov-13, 12:26 pm
    Motion2082

    daveing writes...

    Is this it or is there an additional turbo pack somewhere?

    Hi Daveing,

    That's the one

    1) Go to http://www.iinet.net.au/internet/broadband/adsl/
    2) Select Off-Net ADSL1&2
    3) Under select your speed choose "Turbo up to ADSL2 speeds"
    4) Select your plan

    Thing that sucks about this plan is Telstra get $24 for the phone rental and an extra $10 to use their ADSL2 port, so essentially IINET are only making $45 but your paying $79 per month.

    All because we are stuck on Telstra's RIM, oh well at least we have Tophat. My brother only gets 4Mbps on his connection in the Adelaide Hills. 15-17Mbps at my place, I'm doing ok :)

  • 2014-Nov-13, 12:44 pm
    risq

    Anyone having trouble this morning?

  • 2014-Nov-13, 12:44 pm
    daveing

    Yes Risq, DSL light is fine here but no internet light. About 8:25am.

  • 2014-Nov-15, 1:37 am
    daveing
    this post was edited

    iiNet got some problem.
    /forum-replies.cfm?t=2343399

    That explains your outage. I wouldn't have though it'd have anything to do with mine though (Dodo).

    edit
    Telstra wholesale issue...

    edit2
    Back up around 9:20am.

  • 2014-Nov-15, 1:37 am
    daveing

    OK, again, DSL is down.

    Maybe for four days....
    http://servicestatus.telstra.com/servicestatus/goc.do?q=postcode_6167.html&postcode=6167

    Are you iinet / westnet customers affected?

  • 2014-Nov-19, 6:57 pm
    Dinudur

    Yea I don't have the internet and I'm with iiNet....4 days is bloody ridiculous..... Anyone call Telstra directly yet? I'll be calling iiNet after work

  • 2014-Nov-19, 6:57 pm
    daveing

    Well it was back at when I got home early afternoon. Telstra's outage notification is still in place though, for completion on the 16th. Maybe they are fixing different bits of Bertram (and Medina)at a time?

  • daveing
    this post was edited

    That was a nice month. ADSL down again this morning. No notifications on Telstra's website yet. Calling Dodo. (edit � fault lodged)

    There is also at least another 'neighbour' down so probably Telstra issue.

  • Dinudur

    Anyone else having their ADSL down too?

  • 2015-Mar-9, 11:16 pm
    daveing

    daveing writes...

    Have they done it? Have Telstra fixed this for good? Check back in 21 days for the answer.....

    From memory we had another 9hr outage within a couple of days of the 9th Feb. But since then, only the odd 2min what I'll call a 'reset'. I believe Telstra have fixed it. Well done Telstra!

    Well done fellow residents for not burning down the town in rage.
    Some of you may have taken it out on the local flora though :-(

  • 2015-Mar-9, 11:16 pm
    Motion2082

    Very slows speeds in Bertram the past 2 weeks, what gives?

    Average http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4322541296

  • daveing

    I haven't tested it lately until this afternoon. Got 3Mbps down and 0.75Mbps up.

    Our conn. goes slow from about 11:30am untill about 11pm each day. This afternoon's speeds are typical I reckon.
    Outside these times everything feels much more robust (not fast though).

    Incidentally, speedtest.net, with my wife's Telstrs 4G phone usb tethered to her MBP, gave us 6Mbps down and 27 Mbps up at the same time the above results were recorded. Never see such a low down rate before on 4G.

    I suppose there's some major peak time traffic.

    I've just tested 3/0.7 Mbps down/up now. Pretty typical from my experience (with Dodo).

  • Motion2082

    This probably illustrates the problem better http://www.speedtest.net/results.php?sh=f166e2e47723d73cf97f66edcf8e2e21&ria=0

    going to contact iinet

  • 2015-Apr-28, 10:39 pm
    daveing

    Motion2082 writes...

    going to contact iinet

    Yep, somethings gone wrong.

  • 2015-Apr-28, 10:39 pm
    Motion2082

    Yep, somethings gone wrong.

    Going to have to check SNR and Line Attenuation tonight

  • 2015-Apr-28, 11:45 pm
    risq

    Probably has something to do with everyone subbing to netflix?

  • 2015-Apr-28, 11:45 pm
    Motion2082
    this post was edited

    Probably has something to do with everyone subbing to netflix?

    Called iinet, they told me to look at my SNR and Line Attenuation. Had to give them a raincheck as I was not at home at the time...Then all of a sudden within 24 hours everything was back to normal. It's a conspiracy!

  • 2015-Apr-29, 8:58 am
    daveing

    It's been quiet. Everyone's been getting reasonable internet, yay!

    Until last night about 6pm.
    Speedtest.net indicated 1.9Mbps (usually 9.2Mbps).

    This morning, 4.28Mbps. (Telstra in Perth, with Telstra these days).

    Syncing at 13930Kbps
    Att: 24.5dB Dn 15.9dB Up
    Noise M: 5.9dB Dn 6.9dB Up

    How's everyone else in Bertram doing? Or is it just me?

  • 2015-Apr-29, 8:58 am
    Den86

    I have had it with the situation In Bertram. Has anyone got any updates as to whats going on with ADSL 2!!? I am beyond frustrated. Erghhhh

  • 2015-Apr-29, 1:12 pm
    moepower

    I've since sold and moved out of Bertram to the USA � where cable/fiber speeds in double digit Mbps are standard. I used to live on Charlton Way, Bertram and was restricted to ADSL 1. But I'm curious, has any progress been made? Next year will be 10 years since this post opened.

  • 2015-Apr-29, 1:12 pm
    Ho33iT

    according to nbnco website construction has started in Bertram.

  • 2015-Apr-30, 10:04 am
    daveing

    moepower writes...

    But I'm curious, has any progress been made?

    We are all on top-hatted cabinets giving us ADSL2+ at around 13Mbps. It still has it's crap months though....

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