i spoke to NBN yesterday and i can order from iinet @ my address we will see what happens
Just got a text that my Aussie Broadband service has been installed. Completion/connection should take up to 24 hours. At work atm so can't test.
Is this nbn in kellyville as well ?
My order is on its way
Things of note. They confirmed that nbn is available on Greyfriar place in kellyville.
1) ADSL will be available until cut-over day. I will need to pull the ADSL modem so that on that day I don't screw up the
VDSL sync.
2) They will xfer number from telstra to net phone as part of the process
3) Same email address and passwords to login as i am going with iinet adsl to iinet NBN
4) Taking the 25MB until i can see my sync speed if it enables me to go up then i will consider 100 MB profile
5) Had to accept that I won't get the same guarantee of service from landline to netphone
6) After i remove the telstra account after nbn is in I will save 55 bucks a month as nbn plan is 20 bucks cheaper than the adsl plan i am on and I don't pay telstra landline anymore.. How awesome is that !
5) Anita the iinet tech was awesome answered every question !! and should have a planet named after her (an in joke)
was told by the sales rep it would be cutover tomorrow. but by the sounds of things I should not hold my breath
Saw an NBN truck this morning turning into Gunsyd St of Conrad Road in Kellyville Ridge around 8 AM.....they seemed a bit lost and I had ti rush catch my bus.....hope they are turning some connections on in the area today!!
Update for 2KEL-07, NBN workmen roped off a section on the corner of Memorial Ave and Burns Rd.
About 8 workers with a couple of compact excavators.
Potentially a cabinet location, will update later.
Hi Sam Vox,
Is this FTTH or FTTN.
iinet website just says NBN Fibre for their plans? Does that includes FTTN as well?
FTTN for sure via a SAM. FTTH is across the rd in homeworld 200M away ... Jealous
Just signed up for 25/5 FTTN in 2KEL-08 with exetel, got an estimated connection time 25-30 days.
I know many people have had bad experiences with exetel before but so far their adsl2 has been good for me so I hope it will stay that way with NBN.
Iinet order placed on 30th
Got text today Confirming appointment on 14th
No one required to be present at home for this appointment.
KEL-02
KEL-02
OK i am in 2KEL-02-08 and signed up with Telstra on the 1st but no response yet.......hopefully will get something early next week
Just signed up for 25/5 FTTN in 2KEL-08 with exetel, got an estimated connection time 25-30 days.
25-30 days? WTF? *shakes head* Useless.
Just got a phone call from Aussie BB. Apparently I am now all connected and good to go.
I'm 2KEL-02 (Stanhope Gardens) FTTN
Must say I have been really impressed with Aussie BB with their plans, speed of connection and communication. Hopefully the service will be good too
Just got a phone call from Aussie BB. Apparently I am now all connected and good to go.
I'm 2KEL-02 (Stanhope Gardens) FTTN
Speed test?
Got connected today on the 12/1 plan and loving the low ping. I used to have 30-40ms now its around 7-8ms. Going to be changing plans and will be switched over to 100/40 sometime within 3 days.
Well done... you've had more success than I have. I was supposed to be cutover in 2KEL-05 today and got a text message from Internode stating that my NBN connection was active. Unfortunately I have ADSL2+ and dial tone still. A port reset by NBN didn't help so it appears my line is jumpered incorrectly (probably at the pillar). I now have to wait for an NBN technican appointment to fix the problem.
Got connected today on the 12/1 plan and loving the low ping. I used to have 30-40ms now its around 7-8ms. Going to be changing plans and will be switched over to 100/40 sometime within 3 days.
Are you able to post your attainable download rate from your modem?
Are you able to post your attainable download rate from your modem?
This is the best I have got so far on wireless. http://www.speedtest.net/result/5460984206.png
is it possible that the IPS reduced CVC on this area already ?
I am waiting for my switchover scheduled next Friday 15th however, my ADSL2 speeds are appalling. Syncing at 6MBps which is normal however my download speeds are around 40-70kb/s which is crazy.
Very jealous � i'm in 2KEL-06 (Bella Vista) and no news! MrMac � any idea where to get a bit more info? NBN Co are obviously useless when I ring/email them.
Anyone know what the story is with Edgewood drive Stanhope gardens? It's ready for service but no heat points around it or thornbury circuit on Mr Mac's map
I signed up with Telstra on the 1st July and just got an email that my NBN Connection kit is on its way......fingers crossed lets see how long now before I am up an running
Just got a call from Telstra that the tech is on its way to install NBN.....bit surprised as being FTTN i thought they dont need access to premises........
being FTTN i thought they dont need access to premises
They don't � would suggest they are on their way to the node.
Ordered last Friday for KEL-08.
Just called up TPG and they reached out to NBN Co and was advised of a delay due to 'system errors'
Supposedly has been escalated to a case manager who will call me back in the next 24-48 hours to give me an update?
Anyone else got the same thing?
They don't � would suggest they are on their way to the node
He actually went home and replaced my asus DSL-AC68U modem/router with the Telstra gateway......probably because I have my phone line with Telstra as well
Switch over date to FTTN is 15th July around 4 PM so waiting begins
Now i will need to figure out how to run my DSL and Phone from Asus DSL-AC68U as I am not sure how good the generic Telstra gateway will be
I am 200 meters from Node
Thanks, based off that, it seems you got about 20% off the down speed from the 200m... would it be correct to assume that each 100m from the node = to about a 10% drop?
I am roughly about 110m from the node... should hopefully be getting somewhere in the ~90mbps.... hopefully lol. That drop in ping would be a welcomed change though... 300+ping for online games is ridiculous...
Hi Valco, What's your distance to the node? Do you have a central splitter on your line? Sorry for the bombardment of questions :P
Ok, using the Heat Map, my sync speed matches these pretty closely.
DISTRIBUTION AREA
KELL:45
TECH
FTTN
ESTIMATED DOWNLOAD SPEED (MBPS)
70
ESTIMATED UPLOAD SPEED (MBPS)
28
DISTANCE: NODE TO PILLAR (M)
194
DISTANCE: PILLAR TO PREMISE (M)
386
Also, can someone explain how the HEAT map works.
Will be moving into another place around the corner in a months time, it has the following. There is no distance to the Pillar. Does this mean I will be connected directly to the Node?
DISTRIBUTION AREA
KELL:47
TECH
FTTN
ESTIMATED DOWNLOAD SPEED (MBPS)
93
ESTIMATED UPLOAD SPEED (MBPS)
37
DISTANCE: NODE TO PILLAR (M)
DISTANCE: PILLAR TO PREMISE (M)
302
Does this mean I will be connected directly to the Node?
I think it means there is no Node information available currently for that particular place.
Anyone else got the same thing?
Order last Thursday for 2KEL-08, received modem today. Also haven't had any feedback so asked TPG what's going on.
I think it means there is no Node information available currently for that particular place.
So that means the download speed might be worse once you add in the Node information
I think it means there is no Node information available currently for that particular place.
Bingo.
Finally got an email from TPG.
I signed up on the 30th last month.
They've told me i'll be activated next month on the 1st.
So much for their 2-30 days.
I'm also on 2KEL-08 applied for TPG on 8 July (first active day). Received modem next working day Monday 11 July. Phoned TPG today as no info about activation. TPG customer service very good, advised me that basically it's in the hands of NBN (I imagine like everybody else) and are waiting for NBN to get back to advise on activation date. They gave me a date of 28 July, but I think that's just because that's the max the NBN can take. They said to phone back in a couple of days for update. I don't think the NBN is going to favour one provider over another, and imagine will be up and running within a week or so. BTW thanks so much for your maps. Good work.
I'll be on 2KEL-08 and ordered on the 8th July.
NBN have set an install date for the 26th July. After talking to the Telstra NBN team who called NBN activations, they have no earlier activation dates � and in fact if I change, the earliest NBN can do currently is the 12th August.
Note also � Telstra is having issues with the online ordering system, with two errors common:
1. Professional Install organised even if you chose Self Install.
2. Speed Pack 50% discount not applied.
In both cases contact the Telstra NBN team on 1800 056 962 (0# if you don't have a case PIN) and explain this to them and they will organise to have the professional install provided free, and the 50% discount applied once the service is activated.
Thanks,
Shane.
1. Professional Install organised even if you chose Self Install.
2. Speed Pack 50% discount not applied.
Thanks both these happened to me, will call them up
inally got an email from TPG.
I signed up on the 30th last month.
They've told me i'll be activated next month on the 1st.
So much for their 2-30 days
You're lucky, I signed up same day as you and I just got 5th of next month for 2Kel-02. What a joke.
Signed up with TPG 1st July, have just been emailed by nbn (after calling TPG today) advising that connection will be 2nd of August
Signed up with TPG 1st July, have just been emailed by nbn (after calling TPG today) at connection will be 2nd of August
I am with Telstra and they just sent an NBN kit. I never signed up for NBN.
What do I do now!
Run with it! I suggest seeing if it's worth changing to the NBN if that's the case :)
Absolutely. I'm going to be on 2KEL-08
If anyone in the area along golden grove ave is wanting to look at an upgrade to FttP, reach out to me.
Thanks,
Shane.
I'm in 2KEL-08 as well, signed up on the 8th and waiting for them to jumper on the 25th of July.
Bugger, your node is no where near mine :(
Run with it! I suggest seeing if it's worth changing to the NBN if that's the case :)
I just hooked it up.
Its still connecting to ADSL.
I'm in 2KEL-08 as well, signed up on the 8th and waiting for them to jumper on the 25th of July.
Bugger, your node is no where near mine :(
I'm on the Geewan Avenue node. Isn't that the same one?
Anyone is interested in applying for a Individual Premises Switch to FTTP
Is the fiber run from the pillar to premises?
would it be possible for you to list how many users are attached to a particular node? I
Mechjman � Go to finder.com.au and track down your area e.g.
https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/rollout/2KEL-08
Then click "ADA Info". This will tell you what you want to know.
Is the fiber run from the pillar to premises?
No, in most cases the fibre is run from somewhere past the node. The quotes we have heard about are in the $10K+ range.
See /forum-replies.cfm?t=2490418 for more info.
I'm in 2KEL-08 as well, signed up on the 8th and waiting for them to jumper on the 25th of July.
Signed up on evening of 7th for 2KEL-08. Still no connection date. Last response from TPG is that a technician visit will be required to my premise. I'm assuming there are issues or bridge taps on the line.
I fear the worst is happening, I am still on my ADSL service to be switched to NBN on Friday but the congestion is getting ridiculous.
right now, at 6:30pm, my average download speed is 10kb/s , internet is unusable. Im synced at my normal speeds but nothing is coming through.
quite pissed off. If this is what NBN will be like with IINET, I am switching immediately.
2kel02,
After escalating and communicating with a TPG rep on this forum, provided with 27/7 as install date after signing up on 4/7 and getting modem on 7/7.
Either NBN Co being slack with appointments or a combination of TPG communicating with NBN Co to arrange an appointment (no date provided until i pressed TPG).
My nbn service installation is tomorrow, I've got modem separately.
Is there anyone out there with iinet already? I need modem setup instructions.
Haven't received user ID password yet from iinet.
Thanks in advance.
Who did you have to speak to? I signed up on 5/7 and tonight I got a email telling me they booked me in for 19/8 that ridiculous. I need to talk to them.
2kel02,
After escalating and communicating with a TPG rep on this forum, provided with 27/7 as install date after signing up on 4/7 and getting modem on 7/7.
Either NBN Co being slack with appointments or a combination of TPG communicating with NBN Co to arrange an appointment (no date provided until i pressed TPG).
I signed up with TPG on the the 30th at 9am. I'm in the 2KEL-02 area.
Finally got an email from NBN orders with a connection date of 1st August, outside of the promised 2-30 days. I wonder if there will be any kind of remediation from TPG for that.
Not stoked about the wait but I think it will be worth it.
right now, at 6:30pm, my average download speed is 10kb/s , internet is unusable. Im synced at my normal speeds but nothing is coming through.
quite pissed off. If this is what NBN will be like with IINET, I am switching immediately.
I'm currently with iiNet for ADSL2+ in KEL03 (I think from memory?). NBN not active here until September, but since the NBN has been active across the road and the other areas around the ADSL has been SHOCKING! At times it's as low as 120kb/s and then jumps to 7Mb/s... then back down again. iiNet have been nothing but dramas though (see the iiNet thread...) so might change once NBN is ready.
Finally got an email from NBN orders with a connection date of 1st August, outside of the promised 2-30 days. I wonder if there will be any kind of remediation from TPG for that.
They'll say it was only a 'proposed' date... but ask for your setup fee back?
since the NBN has been active across the road and the other areas around the ADSL has been SHOCKING
On the contrary here. I am KEL07, and over the previous week have experienced the best speeds since I moved in! Still not satisfactory, but prior to July during peak times I would average very low 3 Mbps, whilst the last week at peak times achieving mid 4 Mbps.
Certainly not numbers to boast about, but that's a 50% increase!
Edit: With Telstra FYI
Good idea. Given that it will be 33 days since the order date I sent through a request asking for either an earlier connection, refund of installation costs or some free months of internet usage. We'll see what happens.
Good to see a lot of activity in this thread, and congratulations to those who are connected (or at least close). Interesting reading some experiences since the first FTTN RFDS for our area (30th June).
This is some good insight for those awaiting RFDS (myself September), more importantly which provider to use.
My summary at this stage:
- Skymesh: Was preferred supplier for many, however at this stage FTTN connections are not available (no ETA).
- TPG: Solid customer service (can't be hard in this industry), however lacklustre/delayed connection times, possibly miscommunication with NBNCo.
- Aussie Broadband: Relatively small/unknown, positive experience with reasonably quick response time.
- Telstra: Typical minimal customer service, expensive (some savings on 100/40), yet gets the job done.
I am currently with Telstra (relatively pain free), and with all the positive reviews was looking to jump to Skymesh.
With that no longer an option was thinking TPG (good customer service), whilst delays in connection (not sure if any TPG connections have actually been made to date) is slightly concerning. Will need to wait and see results on when (if) those waiting geting connected.
Once again leaves me with Telstra, yes shitting expensive service, but as noted above "gets the job done".
Any other suggestions/experiences? Not sure if I see many people taking the Optus route.
*I am slightly reluctant on going with a small provider, i.e. Aussie Broadband.
Now we just need someone who's 900m+ to give some stats.
I believe the max/attainable is with no noise margin applied, so to get there you would have a huge amount of drop outs!
Some modems allow SNR tweaking, the Asus and Billion both do from memory.
True, depends on the modem. At 150-200 FTTN can generally get top speed, he's not far off but there might be a few things he can try out to push out that extra 10mbit :P
Yes, you're right. I received my router from TPG on Monday last after ordering on Friday (first day of FTTN ready for service for 2KEL-08-14). The router is the Huawei HG658 it does not come with a splitter, I suppose because the bare phone line can't be used for analogue phone use after you get connected. The router has 2 phone out (VOIP) connections and you can plug any old phone into those-- I plugged in an ancient phone and I got a busy signal, I suppose because not connected yet. There are 4 LAN ports, and of course the wireless output. No manual with the router, however I was able to download one from Huawei. Still waiting for TPG to let me know about activation. It seems like the old phone sockets around the house will be useless now, so will plug in my wireless phone system into the VOIP port for phone coverage around the house.
Same as above, got my Huawei modem from TPG few days ago. KEL-08 ordered on RFS day 9am. Was given an install date of 10th August.
Anyone else with the Huawei know if I'll be able to bridge my existing router to it? I see a lack of a dedicated WAN port on the Huawei...
Regarding bridging the Huawei HG658:
The user guide only mentions bridge mode in that the internet light will be off if the modem is in bridge mode. I'll have to look further on how to bridge the modem but in searching through the user guide for "Bridge" or "bridging" the only reference to come up is "The HG658 is working in bridge mode" when the internet light status is off.
I do remember reading somewhere that this TPG modem can't be bridged-- can't find the reference though.
Here's a link to someone on vodafone that somehow managed to bridge Huawei HG658:
http://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057006124
Regarding bridging the Huawei HG658:
This thread might help: /forum-replies.cfm?t=2266152
just did another quick speed test as its peak time ... 6:25pm ... still full speed !
just did another quick speed test as its peak time ... 6:25pm ... still full speed !
Once people slowly get onto the NBN in that area, that 1Gbps will really struggle... :(
Someone mentioned earlier that they're 10Gbps, which divided by the average number of premises per node is still well above 50Mbps if all are maxed out.
http://www.nbnco.com.au/cont
p34
Someone mentioned earlier that they're 10Gbps, which divided by the average number of premises per node is still well above 50Mbps if all are maxed out.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think its capable of 10Gbps but its actually only 1Gbps down / 1Gbps up.
Geez I hope not
Geez I hope not
Page 32, point 2.4.4 and figure 23
DSLAM aka FTTN cabinet...
The nodes can run 4x10Gb fibre links
But NBN design rules states that they will use 4x1gb links BUT only 2 will be used (1 up and 1 down). The other 2 will be used for future capacity or migration...
So we are shafted from the beginning.
Well bad news, I'm not yet online. Seems I am having connection difficulties. Aussie Broadband have lodged a fault with NBN, so will be interesting to see what it comes back with.
Hi
I have been trying to figure out what the uplink is from the node and believe it's as follows.
Node<->1gig link<->ASS switch <->10gig uplink to POI
notes
- The ass switch simple aggregates the multiple dslams into the dual 10gig uplinks for presentation to the rest of the network.
- I believe there are 8 x 1gig ports on the node.
- In the future two of these could be link aggregated to increase the node to 2gig uplink speed
- if nbn still requires more bandwidth it's possible to change to bidi optics and use all 4 fibres as 1gig uplinks
- based on the data sheet for the node it does not have 10gig ports
Hope it helps.
Edit. Sorry, last update. Looks like all installs I could find online use two of the four terminated cores of smof. Updated to reflect
Well I'm now online.
Aussie Broadband actually lodged the fault with the wholesaler (Optus) how are suppose to come back Monday.
Anyway connection now mysteriously works?
I would suggest not buying the modem I did (Linksys X6200). Speed is worse than it should be and I have no way to check line attenuation.
Pl Post some stats
This is all the stats I have:
Down 46535
Up 20173
Modem being replaced tomorrow. Hope that will help! Disappointing so far.
Has anyone got download speed higher than 85mb so far?
Has anyone got download speed higher than 85mb so far?
87 here ...
.will have to wait and see if it gets any better on the 27th
Called Telstra and got them to wave off the booster fee for thsi month till he congestion issue is resolved
Hi All � I am about 230m's away getting 93mbs/34mbs with varying speeds at night but I have got those speeds at night as well (with Telstra) � we are connected to 2KEL-05 and we were the victim of bad port patching that made the link go up and down. An NBN engineer and a port change later and all was good.
What is interesting is I have managed to make the Telstra Gateway a VOIP only box hanging off my own modem/router connected to the NBN. Heres how (given Telstra refuse to supply VOIP settings for your own kit like a Cisco SPA112). I have a Dlink Taipan � connect the Telstra Gateway first, let it do its setup and when your plugged in phone gets a ring tone you can unplug the VDSL cable. Connect the WAN port from the Telstra Gateway to the Taipan LAN port and let DHCP allocate it an IP address then reserve that IP address. Plug the VDSL cable back into the Taipan. Port forward ports 5060, 5061 and 5065 to the IP address on the Taipan allocated to the Telstra Gateway. If you want to do any mods on the Telstra gateway at this point you will need to plug into a LAN port on the back of it and access 10.0.0.138. On the Taipan also set QOS for the Telstra Gateway and disable SIP as well (important). Now hop onto the Telstra gateway, disable wifi (so it doesn't compete with the Taipan) and setup firewall to maximum slider setting (not the "own settings one" � the setting before that). I also disabled everything else like USB sharing etc etc. Reboot everything and presto the Telstra Gateway handles nothing but VOIP. If you here a funny ringtone on your phone you may have Telstra Message bank enabled and we found it seems to interfere with calls too but once it was disabled our phone has been running for days without incident.
Essentially I now have NBN > Taipan > Telstra Gateway Handling VOIP > Telephones
Hope this helps � Your Telstra Gateway need not be the first thing in the sequence and need not be connected directly to the NBN VDSL cable. :-)
Essentially I now have NBN > Taipan > Telstra Gateway Handling VOIP > Telephones
So can you put a packet sniffer between the Taipan and the Telstra gateway to reverse engineer the voip settings?
Don't know � haven't tried � but I am not sure it would be worth the effort. Rather than using something like a Cisco SPA112 you can use the Telstra Gateway that comes with the deal � save yourself $80 on something else. I am not sure other solutions would offer any more or anything else you would need. Most of the VOIP settings on the Telstra gateway I already figured out � its the password that's the issue. It auto sets something up.
you can use the Telstra Gateway that comes with the deal
I'm actually using the Gateway Max as my Router with WiFi off. I'm running PSTN passthrough now and VoiP eventually when NBN is live on the 26th. Using the Telstra T-Voice 502 DECT handsets and T-Voice App � 502's are nice and made to sync directly via DECT to the Gateway Max, and T-Voice app on iOS and Android works surprisingly well.
For WiFi I've spent some good coin and installed a set of 3x Eero devices � I'm never going back to a single WiFi router again as the WiFi coverage and speed is like nothing I've ever had before. It's probably the best money I've ever spent on tech.
So far so good. The Gateway Max isn't bad as just a router and Voice/DECT unit.
Thanks,
Shane.
My tests of the Telstra Gateway weren't favourable. First it doesn't have enough in the way of flexible settings. Second its a lousy wifi source. The Taipan has tri-band ariels and I split the bands between media, devices and then old devices on the 2.4GHz band. Wifi speed isn't an issue :-) The Telstra Gateway though did show slower speeds on the NBN VDSL connection than the Taipan too � it could just come down to processing capacity.
I was originally going to go with a Netgear Nighthawk until I found it doesn't work with FTTN as advertised � they are working on new firmware but don't hold your breath on that. The best use for a Telstra Gateway is as a simply VOIP solution only � modem/router/wifi functions should be served by a better device if you want speed and coverage.
connected today with FTTN KEL-02 with iinet
I'm around 130m from pillar and pillar is @100m from node so effective distance around 230-250m
I'm getting @ 62 mbps download and 36 mbps upload speed, which is disappointing as I was expecting 80+ mbps download.
is this valid expectation, considering distance to the node. (it's almost straight cable run along the st)
my stats as below with Fritz box 7490, is there anything I can do on the router to improve speed?
Thanks in advance.
Receive Send
Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 109000 44200
Min. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 64 0
Attainable throughput kbit/s 68866 41961
Current throughput kbit/s 68484 39070
Seamless rate adaptation off off
Latency fast fast
Impulse Noise Protection (INP) 45 46
G.INP on on
Signal-to-noise ratio dB 6 6
Bitswap off on
Line attenuation dB 18 23
Profile 17a
G.Vector full full
TPG have brought forward my install date by 2 days.
In the email, they recommend someone be home between the 4hr allocated time frame.
Is this necessary with FTTN? I thought they activate the port at the node/cabinet.
Anyone who currently has FTTN, did a tecnivian visit your premises or is it just a generic email that is also used for FTTP connections as well?
Hi � yes on FTTN and no you don't need to be home. They just patch it at the node � you will see the internet drop.
Right now my internet has gone from 93mbs download during the day to 11mbs right now � upload is 3 time faster! This is back to my ADSL speeds. Telstra say they are planning a fix for the 26th but does anyone believe that?
The Telstra Gateway though did show slower speeds on the NBN VDSL connection than the Taipan too � it could just come down to processing capacity.
I've had a Taipan at home and while a nice box, it didn't provide the WiFi coverage I personally needed into the corners of my house. Also strangely on ADSL2+ the Gateway Max sync'd at over 1Mbps faster than the Taipan while being more stable (same with a TP-Link D9 & ASUS DSL-AC68U which I also tested) � it'll be interesting to see how the Gateway Max goes on VDSL, although I no longer have the Taipan to compare.
I don't use the Gateway Max for WiFi so it doesn't bother me � the eero system means I don't have to worry about bands or multiple SSID's as it automatically load balances across eero's and moves 5Ghz devices to 5GHz, and 2.4GHz to 2.4GHz � everything is just damn fast � this works for me but may not be for everyone.
Thanks,
Shane.
Telstra say they are planning a fix for the 26th but does anyone believe that?
I think the only option they have to help is to increase the CVC they've purchased for the local POI (I think that's correct). What you actually experience will depend on how many other folk are online at the same time as you. Unfortunately, the link from the node back is only 1Gbps and that is shared by everyone else on your node.
I'm on 2ROU-02, according to mynbn.info there are 2600 premises attached to this node. I thought the most a node is designed to support is 384. I'm hoping this is a typo...
That will be the total users on the Service Area Module (SAM), within which there will be lots of Nodes supporting each Access Distribution Area (ADA).
which there will be lots of Nodes
Using simple math, that means at least 7 nodes. That looks like it covers all of the 2KEL and 2ROU nodes, is that correct?
connected today with FTTN KEL-02 with iinet
I'm around 130m from pillar and pillar is @100m from node so effective distance around 230-250m
I'm getting @ 62 mbps download and 36 mbps upload speed, which is disappointing as I was expecting 80+ mbps download.
is this valid expectation, considering distance to the node. (it's almost straight cable run along the st)
my stats as below with Fritz box 7490, is there anything I can do on the router to improve speed?
Thanks in advance.
It could be part modem / part internal wiring.
Modems with Broadcom chipsets seem to be performing better.
Officeworks has the TP-Link 9970 in stock now, which would be the best place to buy it from if you want to try it. I picked up an extra 20mbps with the 9970, and now have it running in bridge mode.
For internal wiring, plug the modem into your first socket in the house. Other users have picked up 10-15mbps this way. If you aren't sure, get a cabler out to look into it for you (or install a VDSL2 central splitter).
Now been 8 business days, and still no connection date scheduled with TPG. Can't get a reason for it either. Anyone else on 2KEL-08 TPG with a connection date?
Thanks, I've cabler coming over tomorrow to install new phone point.
Also thinking of getting TP-Link 9970
Now been 8 business days, and still no connection date scheduled with TPG. Can't get a reason for it either. Anyone else on 2KEL-08 TPG with a connection date?
Hi MrMac, Thanks for your maps. I'm on 2KEL-08-13 with TPG. I'm in the same situation as you. I phoned TPG this morning and they quoted the 2-30 business days contract for connecting. The operator said that an engineer would get back to me within 48 hours with ?? hopefully some news. Last week they mentioned some date towards the end of July. I wonder if anyone with any provider is connected or has a connection date on 2KEL-08. From the posts I've seen it has just been the folks RFS on 30 June that have had connections-- that is 2KEL-02 and 2KEL-05.
Well super disappointed today. Got the the email and sms saying NBN has been activated. I get home and set up the iinet modem with NBN settings as advised (just to make sure because its their hardware after all).. and nothing ... after support calls and still no resolution (they were nice enough to call me back twice now) i put my old modem back in with ADSL setting and its working just fine. Got the feeling the jumpering didn't work like it should have :-(.
DJ
Last week they mentioned some date towards the end of July. I wonder if anyone with any provider is connected or has a connection date on 2KEL-08. From the posts I've seen it has just been the folks RFS on 30 June that have had connections-- that is 2KEL-02 and 2KEL-05.
I'm on 2KEL-08-10 and jumpering on 25th of July. Aussie Broadband gave me the connection confirmation date on the same day as RFS kicked on. Should give them a try. I'll let you know how it goes.
I am on Telstra for ADSL 2+, basically because everyone else (TPG, Optus etc) told me I couldn't even get a phone line � Telstra seemed to have the slots on the pillar available though.
Pretty sure that's against the rules...
I'm looking for an RSP that bundles unlimited international calls, so far I've only found TPG and Optus. TPG seems to have problems hooking people up so far though...
Not sure why I want to go with Telstra going forward though since they didn't even assist with me getting a Smart Antennae due to crap mobile reception. Anyone using the Optus Voice over Wifi offering ? Might have to look into that.
Last I tried Optus' voWiFi app, it was complete crap. So what I did was get a new phone that does Band 28, and bingo some reception finally. Not great reception, but better than absolutely nothing.
able to get 50MPBS MAX is pretty disappointing. Having said that 50/20 should in fact be enough for us but hey still would be nice to get 100/40 :)
When you connect via 50/20, you go into the stats the Liberals use to justify people don't want 100/40 connections. If you use Telstra then you would drop to 25/10 as they don't support a 50/20 plan.
When you connect via 50/20, you go into the stats the Liberals use to justify people don't want 100/40 connections
Man as sad as it is I could actually believe that, giving us crappy infrastructure that would never obtain the speeds anyway which causes people to not want to waste money on the useless higher speed tier = "see no one wants 100/40 anyway".
Maybe I should sign up for a 100/40 plan even though my estimated max is only 60/25 or so, hmmmm.
Pretty sure that's against the rules...
That DA is on Telstra Kellyville sub-exchange where the other ISP's don't have a presence. TPG old ADSL2 map is a good representation of that (https://www.tpg.com.au/maps/)
I phoned NBN and they confirmed there is some sort of problem that needs to get worked on. No indication of when this will be fixed. The service providers will be informed when RFS.
Cheers for your update. Still now news for me on 2KEL-08-10
you get what you voted for
I wish I did, I voted twice for FTTP and won't get it.
I could actually believe that
Believe it, both Fifield and Morrow have both used these stats to justify FTTN.
Kellyville is in the very safe seat of Mitchell
But the Kellyville exchange also covers west of Old Windsor Road which is in the Labor seat of Greenway where there was about a 3.5% swing to Labor after Michelle Rowland narrowly won in the 2013 election against the infamous Diaz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2NDewpz1mY
That DA is on Telstra Kellyville sub-exchange where the other ISP's don't have a presence. TPG old ADSL2 map is a good representation of that (https://www.tpg.com.au/maps/)
Oh I see, so it's on the sub-exchange at Marella Ave? Didn't realise any Beaumont Hills lines were connected there...
Well i got my connection fixed today. Turns out it was jumpered incorrectly at the pillar. Much better than the 8mbit adsl line i was on and � of what I was thinking i might get.
So here are the stats:
Distance: Node to Pillar (m) 311
Distance: Pillar to Premise (m) 154
MrMacs Estimates
Estimated Download Speed (mbps) 92
Estimated Upload Speed (mbps) 37
Real World
SNR Margin (0.1 dBm): 63 / 64
Attenuation (0.1 dBm): 0 / 204
Output Power (0.1 dBm): 94 / 144
Attainable Rate (Kbps): 25857 / 53076
Rate (Kbps): 25857 / 51371
Speedtest comes in 47.04mbps Down and 24.4 up
Brampton drive node is being worked on again today, happy to finally see some progress happening.
In the same boat here, forced to go with Telstra for ADSL2+ because they're the only ones that have any service around here
I requested a plan change to 100/40 from 12/1 yesterday and I was told that it would take up to 5 days to get switched over but I seem to be connected already. The only problem is that I am not getting the speeds that I should be getting at 350m from the node.
Either there is a problem on my end or they haven't finished changing the speeds or something like that. I'm currently getting 27 down 24 up. Can anyone tell if its something on my end? Shouldn't the max rate be 100/40?
Upstream line rate (kbit/s):
25472
Downstream line rate (kbit/s):
32470
Maximum upstream rate (kbit/s):
25609
Maximum downstream rate (kbit/s):
33570
Upstream noise safety coefficient (dB):
7.4
Downstream noise safety coefficient (dB):
6.7
Line standard:
VDSL
Upstream line attenuation (dB):
37.5
Downstream line attenuation (dB):
15.6
I'll post some more results in a couple days and see if anything changes.
It could be part modem / part internal wiring.
Modems with Broadcom chipsets seem to be performing better.
Officeworks has the TP-Link 9970 in stock now, which would be the best place to buy it from if you want to try it. I picked up an extra 20mbps with the 9970, and now have it running in bridge mode.
Thanks @ Mike TP link improved my speed by 10 mbps now getting 72 download and 37 upload.
still waiting for technician to check internal wiring for me, hoping to get another 10+ by installing new wires.
The only problem is that I am not getting the speeds that I should be getting at 350m from the node.
which modem router are you using? I have just got extra 10 mbps by replacing Fritz 7490 with TP link 9970.
Now Frtiz is setup as bridge. Also try and use the phone socket that is closer to the street
which modem router are you using?
HUAWEI HG659. Just the standard ISP supplied modem router.
Woo hooooo
Chepstow drive now showing in build phase on finder/mynbn
Some progress!
Woo hooooo
Chepstow drive now showing in build phase on finder/mynbn
Some progress!
Thanks for the update, I'm on st pauls and feed of the chepstow rim. Mr. Mac maps shows i can get full 100/40, so looking forward to it. Now if they can only get their act together in the Norwest Business park,..
Upstream line rate (kbit/s):
25472
Downstream line rate (kbit/s):
32470
Maximum upstream rate (kbit/s):
25609
Maximum downstream rate (kbit/s):
33570
Can anyone tell if its something on my end? Shouldn't the max rate be 100/40?
you are connected at the max speed that your modem is connected to the node so. 350m away from node I would have thought you get bit better speeds although I am no expert. Mr Mac might be able to provide some thoughts.
Holy crap the pillars for FTTN seems unnecessarily large... Someone's front yard just got screwed by a massive pillar next to their mail box on Malvern Road in Glenwood....
Work being done on 2 nodes today on Brampton Dr, between Guardian Ave and Mungerie Rd/The Pkwy.
Thanks @ Mike TP link improved my speed by 10 mbps now getting 72 download and 37 upload.
still waiting for technician to check internal wiring for me, hoping to get another 10+ by installing new wires.
No worries. Hope you found it ok at Officeworks.
The muppets had no idea where it was on the shelf when I called them and told me it wasn't in stock!
Anyway, if you get a chance, it would be interesting to see your line attenuation.
All the modems seem to report the stats a little differently.
If you post your full modem stats here or in /forum-replies.cfm?t=2479157&p=25 it might tell a few things
Thanks!
I posted over there whrl.pl/ReFRQy
Also, why are there grey dots on Burns Road regarding no technology defined?
Haven't found the pillar.
Thanks MrMac! I have a question, isn't 2KEL-05-13 just after Hawick Ct cross Cattai Creek Drive.
How come people whose houses are closer/right next to that estimated to actually have slower speeds?
Click on the premises and you'll see the routing to pillar/node. To the best of my knowledge, 2KEL-05-13 node serves 2 different pillars, which serve different houses in the area. One pillar is up on Craigmore Drive just after Carberry Ct, and the other is up the end of Cattai Creek Drive. So the routing goes from the premises out to the pillar, then doubles back to the node.
I wish I were getting those speeds!
I need to fix the map, but if it is 0m to the node, then I don't know where your node is yet. May be lower depending on how far away the node is. Also all the cable lengths are estimations on best case. The actual cable route could be going round the suburb up to 1km for all I know.
because the connection was still "provisioning" the speed boost would not have been applied
You're already getting a speed boost if you're getting 421/15
Also told me a cute story about a car getting more efficient as you run it in. Perhaps they think my wires need to warm up?
Rubbish. This is one of the reasons I haven't gone with Telstra in over a decade because they spin utter nonsense at you. Like you said everything I represent is as best estimate of best case I can give as a guide only. You'd likely need to look at internal house wiring, modem type, other devices on the line etc to make sure your premise is as best quality as possible. Past that, well, it's hope for the best with nbn
Edit: Also a comment on the other threads. Always test your results on wired LAN, preferrably get your maximum attainable rate from the modem status, and test at different times of the day (in low peak times). That will help you get an idea of best speeds possible.
"Is that your sync speed or a download speed?"
That was a download speed, off a TPG speed test.
Think I need to get all the modem specs and post for you wizards to look at....its just the standard modem that TPG ships for nbn.
You're already getting a speed boost if you're getting 421/15
421 I wish ! :)
yeah the Telstra guy was barely more literate than a sales puke
He pretty much PROMISED me 90 mbits!
Rubbish. This is one of the reasons I haven't gone with Telstra in over a decade because they spin utter nonsense at you.
I had good reasons to go with Telstra for ADSL2. Unfortunately leaving Telstra would cost me too much at this point. I've actually been happy with their support compared to my previous lying bunch of a-holes ISP
Edit: Also a comment on the other threads. Always test your results on wired LAN, preferrably get your maximum attainable rate from the modem status, and test at different times of the day (in low peak times). That will help you get an idea of best speeds possible.
Don't know where else to get maximum attainable rates :)
My speedtest.net and fast.com speeds have been spectacularly solid consistent and fast at all times of the day over ethernet and Wifi (albeit limited to about 37-39mbit down and 14-15mbits up)
For those of you who have already converted, do you still have dial tone that a back to base alarm can use or has your phone been converted to voip by your provider?
but if it is 0m to the node, then I don't know where your node is yet.
As I reported before, there looks to be a node in Rouse Hill on Mindaribba Ave on the north side near the corner with Milford Drive.
I'm with Telstra
My landline is now is VoIP
There should be no dialtone on the line
I say should because I'm not game to plug a phone into the line to find out
My understanding is that FTTN is not compatible with a dialtone
Haven't found the pillar
Ok, I know that it's KEL:801, will take a walk tomorrow to track it down!
Haven't found the pillar.
KELL:453 is located on the Miles St side of the park at the intersection of Miles St & Claremont St, Kellyville Ridge.
MrMac
Please find below the location of the Pillar for Kell:364
Thanks for all your work.
Thanks for providing info. For nodes, wherever possible can you provide the ADA ID off the node cabinet (white label on front panel) itself so I can associate correctly with pillars. I can get away with it but then won't be providing accurate info later on.
I will get that soon.
Thanks...
Ok, so the node is:
2KEL-07-13-FNO-001
Was looking for the pillar for over an hour, and is it a possibility that this is a CMUX/RIM area?
If so, the location is here.
If so, the location is here.
That's an electrical sub generator. I'm researching on DA rules, as my suspicion is that the 8xx DA's may served by other DA pillars in some cases
I'm researching on DA rules
Appreciate it.
If you need any information from me, please let me know.
Getting connected tomorrow, 2KEL02 with TPG, 25Mbps plan.
According to MrMac's heatmap, my premises should be able to get 94Mbps, but I have no use and can't justify the premium per month for the next speed step up (although, a 50Mbps plan would have been good).
Will update you guys on the progress.
can you provide the ADA ID off the node cabinet (white label on front panel)
What I think is a node has no signage on it anywhere, apart from a high voltage warning label. I suspect it may have more to do with the electricity grind than the comms network.
a 50Mbps plan would have been good
Aussie Broadband, among others, do offer a 50Mbps plan.
Aussie Broadband, among others, do offer a 50Mbps plan.
It's only $5 more a month to get 100/40... $60 a year extra for potentially double the speed.
Question... due to RFS in September, but a couple of questions:
- Will I need a central splitter? Not idea what they really are, assuming something like a line filter?
- Old normal handset phone won't work? I'll need a new VOIP phone to connect to the modem?
Connected today:
2KEL02 TPG 25/5 Plan About 300m from node
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5501597354
Line standard: VDSL2
Channel type: Interleaved
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 28000
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 6400
Downstream SNR (dB) 9.8
Upstream SNR (dB) 18.2
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 34.7
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 41.4
Downstream output power (dBmV) 13.5
Upstream output power (dBmV) 5.2
Anything of concern in modem stats? (SNR/attenuation/power)?
Changed phone port, have the following stats:
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type
Interleaved
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 28000
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 6400
Downstream SNR (dB) 22.1
Upstream SNR (dB) 21
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 13.9
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.7
Downstream output power (dBmV) 3.4
Upstream output power (dBmV) -5.2
How far are you from the Node + Pillar? Thanks
According to MrMac's map:
---
DISTANCE: NODE TO PILLAR (M)
99
DISTANCE: PILLAR TO PREMISE (M)
465
---
And on the modem it says this:
Line standard VDSL2
Channel type Interleaved
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) 102745
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) 43868
Downstream SNR (dB) 7.5
Upstream SNR (dB) 6.1
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 13.2
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 5.8
Downstream output power (dBmV) 12.4
Upstream output power (dBmV) 7.1
Downstream CRC 91
Upstream CRC 79
Downstream FEC 46608
Upstream FEC 19814
If you bridge it, then how do you plan to connect your phone?
Asking because I'm also interested in TPG NBN.
I read from other threads here that once it's bridged, the Huawei's VOIP port no longer functions as it will pass everything through to the router. So you will need a router that has a VOIP port?
That is exactly my dilemma at the moment.
I'm going to go without bridging...for now
I have a separate ATA I can hook up for the phone if I can somehow grab the TPG VoIP details somehow.
Heaven and Rev, I'd be very interested to hear how your connection holds up over the coming hours/days as mine was ok at first but has been all over the place ever since.
TPG are sending a tech on Wednesday so I'll let you all know how that goes.
Just before midnight the other night my connection dropped between 7-9mbps d/l.
TPG said that was fine because it was at night and lots of people are active at that time. At midnight!?!? Jeeez.
To recap I'm under 300m from pillar, 100/40 plan in KEL02.
I can only imagine the other end of Arnold Ave KELL:112 is suggesting to be DA for. Surely that would be over 1km run (actually 1.9km as per road).
Yeah, I was kind of surprised they'd put the node so far from the pillar as the signal would go from the node to the pillar and then back to Burns Rd and onward. Sounds terrible for people especially further on. I don't know about Arnold Ave though-- Is that the same Distribution Area? It's not clear on MrMac's new map. This whole area used to be farm land until about 4 years ago (my previous landlord was the farmer) hence few distribution pillars.
According to MrMac's map:
---
DISTANCE: NODE TO PILLAR (M)
99
DISTANCE: PILLAR TO PREMISE (M)
465
---
Your speeds give me hope. I am around the same distance as you. Still three months to go for RFS in Glenwood.
Thanks for your reply.
I will be happy with anything above 70 MBPS. Currently on ADSL2+ at around 11 MBPS.
Connected to Aussie Broadband on 50/20 on the 25th.
300m from premise to node
Using DLink DSL-2877AL
DSL STATISTICS
Line State up
Modulation ITU G.993.5(G.Vectoring),G.998.4(G.INP)
Annex Mode ANNEX_B
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 20.5 dB 18.0 dB
Line Attenuation 9.2 dB 0.8 dB
Data Rate 55029 kbps 22599 kbps
ES 0 0
SES 0 0
UAS 120 120
FEC 99 53
CRC 0 0
The dlink stats are kinda lacking...
I'm getting a line test tomorrow and see what speeds I can further get before plunging for speed upgrade
Early alpha NBN MTM web test to replace cartodb map.
http://52.64.243.5/nbnmtm.html
There are too many light orange dots on that � for this NBN should be ashamed.
Those people (including me) have had the worst of it in regards to poor ADSL2+ speeds, and now we get the worst of it due to the tech NBN have rolled out.
On top of that if we looked to pay to change to fibre, we get hit with the massive cost to do so, and all of the people along the run who already have red dots could join for chump change off the back of our coin spent.
This is crap.
Shane.
Does anyone know if Telstra has managed to fix the congestion issues.......today was meant to be the date
Got connected with Telstra.
Speed is actually a little bit slower than ADSL2+.
DSL Type
VDSL2
DSL Mode
Fast
Maximum Line rate
5.26 Mbps 13.79 Mbps
Line Rate
4.91 Mbps 13.4 Mbps
Data Transferred
34.3 MBytes 364.09 MBytes
Output Power
10 dBm 6.3 dBm
Line Attenuation
12.5, 59.7, 80.7,N/A,N/A dB 26.4, 77.0,N/A dB
Noise Margin
7.5 dB 6.7 dB
In Rouse Hill (Augusta pl) there is a Beige Built cabinet with nbn marked pits next to it, anyone know what the difference is between the beige and standard green ?
In Rouse Hill (Augusta pl) there is a Beige Built cabinet with nbn marked pits next to it, anyone know what the difference is between the beige and standard green ?
It's a FDH (Fibre Distribution Hub). Serves FTTP. Also one next to Beaumont Hills shops so some FTTP going into brownfield locations for whatever reason nbn has decided
Does anyone know if Telstra has managed to fix the congestion issues.......today was meant to be the date
Also wanting to know, don't have time to call up myself since at work.
But will when I get home, my brother did a reboot few minutes ago but no success.
Also telstra confirmed for me last week all 3 tools show my speed profiles do match at 100/40 now.
But I still line sync at 13.2 up 30.51 down.
They didn't want to raise a case against NBNCo till they finish the augmentation today.
Such a pain.
Does anyone know if Fibre on Demand became an option or it got lost and forgotten?
Also telstra confirmed for me last week all 3 tools show my speed profiles do match at 100/40 now.
But I still line sync at 13.2 up 30.51 d
Who are you talking to at Telstra? Philippine call centres can't even spell NBN let alone offer any resolution.
It's a FDH (Fibre Distribution Hub). Serves FTTP. Also one next to Beaumont Hills shops so some FTTP going into brownfield locations for whatever reason nbn has decided
Saw that. What the hell? FTTP for those town houses? The shops?
FTTP for those town houses? The shops?
The benefits of being in a Telstra Velocity Estate... *sigh*
Who are you talking to at Telstra? Philippine call centres can't even spell NBN let alone offer any resolution.
On my third call I got someone useful.
On my second call however, I asked if there was anyway to change my start IP in the telstra gateway maxs dhcp settings. I was told I would have to pay for a static IP....
Complete face palm moment. Same number I was calling through each time, so complete hit and miss as to who picks up.
Just remotely tested my download speed again. Doesn't look like they've fixed or finished the augmentation and almost COB now :( but pretty sure that's on NBNcos end...
ok after fixing the internal wiring speed improved significantly.
Distance from Premise to Pillar: 154m
Distance from Node to Pillar: 189m
before :
71 down 36 up
after new wiring
93 down 37 up
woo hoo !!!
stats:
Connected
DSL Modulation Type:VDSL2
Annex Type:Annex A
Upstream Downstream
Current Rate (Kbps) 44199 101996
Max Rate (Kbps) 44226 104466
SNR Margin (dB) 6.7 6.6
Line Attenuation (dB) 23.6 11.6
Errors (Pkts) 0 0
Anyone else on 2KEL-02 experiencing congestion issues during peak time?
2nd night in a row (connected yesterday) where ping varies between 150-200ms and download speed varies between 10-18Mbps on a Sydney Telstra speedtest server.
Usually from 7PM onwards.
I am on a TPG 25/5 Plan.
Early days, but tonight there doesn't seem to be any congestion.
9ms ping, 23.5Mbps download (25/5) plan.
Heaven, Matt, are you guys experiencing an improvement?
Edit: Spoke to soon, turned to sh*t again
Hey neighbour! Are you on Telstra Pillar DA316 (Redden Drive) or DA314 (Poole Road).
Was sticking with TPG temporarily till I move later this year. Now have a case manager assigned by TPG, but still no answer where the problem lies for connection.
On DA314, and you?
You already with TPG for ADSL and phone line? Should be better providers out there that will care more than those guys.
Glenwood 2KEL-04 update
Yesterday they did the Copper Node to Pillar cabling at Kell:364 and a couple of other places.
Seems to be going at a good pace.
Hopefully RFS is brought forward from 21 Oct 2016. (Dreaming!)
OK NBN techs are real and I've spoken with one.
He just visited to check line. Looks like I may have been right and Telstra handover documentation had our copper pair incorrectly labelled.
Have this plugged in to find my line at the pillar.
https://imgur.com/a/z71Ld
Hopefully up and running soon.
Update: Up and running and unfortunately 650m from the node this is what you get:
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1723007004
Regards,
Shane.
On DA314, and you?
You already with TPG for ADSL and phone line? Should be better providers out there that will care more than those guys.
DA316. TPG are relodging with NBN as apparently previous request never exited pending with NBN, so back to end of queue (though they state they will escalate, doubt it).
Happy enough to stay with TPG for next few months to keep existing number etc. It's one of the things with TPG, normal conditions you get basic reasonably solid unlimited internet for a cheap price. It's when you want customer service because something has gone wrong that it's painful :)
Update: Up and running and unfortunately 650m from the node this is what you get:
Damn, doesn't give me much hope at 730m!
Update: Up and running and unfortunately 650m from the node this is what you get:
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/1723007004
Should test wired to get your expected speed (link suggests was run on iphone)
Ian Paul
The nbn map says I'm on 2kel-08-16
Early days, but tonight there doesn't seem to be any congestion.
9ms ping, 23.5Mbps download (25/5) plan.
Heaven, Matt, are you guys experiencing an improvement?
Edit: Spoke to soon, turned to sh*t again
Didn't get too much time to test last night but it was running at about half normal speed and definitely back to 100ms pings in games.
I emailed forum_admin@tpg.com.au and they've come back to put together some evidence of speeds/latency in peak and off peak and send it through to them.
So many people complaining about TPG!
If you want good performance you have to pay for it.
Aussie Broadband is hitting full speed for me at all times. Very happy with the network performance, better than I expected it do be.
Aussie Broadband is hitting full speed for me at all times. Very happy with the network performance, better than I expected it do be
Same here. Been flawless with them. The only gripe is that all traffic goes back to Melbourne so there's some latency added to it but I can live with it for now.
Got an augmentation deadline of 09-08-2016 from Telstra.
Not very exciting as the rep told that it can take up to 18 months for augmentation to complete.
Basically, what they mean is that your stuck with your initial speed for a long long time.
Update again. WAN connection gone.
Okay seems an NBN activation tech has cut my line from the pillar. They do no doublechecks they only do what their list tells them correct or not. They should check their app first but most work off a printout.
So the faults technician from this morning updated the system to reflect my correct line and port but because the activations technician works off his print out he hasn't checked and seen the change & thats how it got screwed up again.
New tech coming back tomorrow.
Also for those asking: I did a speed test via wired as well and it was identical.
Shane.
For nodes, wherever possible can you provide the ADA ID off the node cabinet (white label on front panel)
2KEL-03-20-FNO-001 is located on the Miles St side of the park at the intersection of Miles St & Claremont St, Kellyville Ridge. Pillar KELL:453 is right next to the node cabinet.
So many people complaining about TPG!
If you want good performance you have to pay for it.
agree really happy with iinet, plan is bit dearer but worth paying for
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5510042494
KELL:112 has been broken up into multiple DA's, with new pillars, new copper and new nodes gone in
They do seem to be spending a lot of time working on/around the cabinet (2KEL-07-13-FNO-001) in comparison to other nodes I pass on a daily basis . I have walked KELL:801 on the basis of searching for the "new" pillar on a few occasions now without any luck (is there a new style of dome top pillars?)! To the point that I feel my area may call the cops for staring at their property (apologies if that is anyone here).
Might just approach the workers if I see them there again. Surely someone knows where the mysterious KELL:801 pillar is, getting determined to track it down now!
So many people complaining about TPG!
If you want good performance you have to pay for it.
Will changing Service Providers really make a huge difference?
Will changing Service Providers really make a huge difference?
If it's congestion then it is all the difference since it's based on the RSP, but on the other hand you're hoping whoever else you jump onto isn't about to run into the same thing. It can also be fixed in a matter of days or less so by the time you get reconnected it may be sorted by your old RSP
Will changing Service Providers really make a huge difference?
my experience from adsl era,
i was with optus and tpg with 2mbps speed for years, then someone told me that these big players are least bothered about securing additional bandwidth and upgrading hardware. so I moved to internode and straightway started getting 10 mbps consistently.
though this is my experience from adsl world , I'm not expecting these BIG RSPs to improve from there practices, rather they will offer unlimited data, iptv , voip services which I found useless if the quality and bandwidth is missing in the first place.
I wish , I'm wrong in nbn era..
Update. I'm online, again.
New NBN tech visited onsite. Problem confirmed caused by old paperwork as expected.
Likely after faults tech visited yesterday an activations tech blindly followed printout and disconnected me.
I now know what pair number I'm supposed to be vs what they thought, so can communicate this if things go bad.
Fingers crossed we stay online from now on.
Note: Also tested an ASUS DSL-AC68U vs the Telstra Gateway Max. Telstra was syncing 4Mbps faster than the ASUS, so back on the Gateway Max.
Regards,
Shane.
so back on the Gateway Max.
The Gateway Max has surprised me as one of the 'free' modems, the sync is great and the Wifi range is excellent compared to my last. The UI is a little slow though
Just upgraded my speed from 50/20 to 100/40
These are the modem stats:
DSL STATISTICS
Line State up
Modulation ITU G.993.5(G.Vectoring),G.998.4(G.INP)
Annex Mode ANNEX_B
Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 8.8 dB 12.5 dB
Line Attenuation 9.4 dB 0.7 dB
Data Rate 92552 kbps 44199 kbps
ES 0 0
SES 0 0
UAS 120 120
FEC 0 0
CRC 0 0
Mr Mac's has me pegged at 95/38 which is as close as it can get!
So as consolation for my week of hell, Telstra billing have really stepped up.
- First month bill 100% credited
- 100/40 speed pack credited for as long as I stay with them
- Now month to month rather than contract with no exit fee charged
- Mobile data added to our shared data sim plan to cover usage during outage.
Don't think I can do much about my speed (38Mbps/15Mbps) so having Telstra provide above goes a little of the way to helping me come to terms with it.
Thanks,
Shane.
Found two nodes (I believe) in 2KEL-04. Name plates were installed in the last 24 hours.
2KEL-04-15-FNO-001 � located here, to the left of the driveway of 247 Glenwood Park Drive, Glenwood.
2KEL-04-16-FNO-001 � located here, to the left of the driveway of 5 Shaun Street, Glenwood.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for providing info. For nodes, wherever possible can you provide the ADA ID off the node cabinet (white label on front panel) itself so I can associate correctly with pillars. I can get away with it but then won't be providing accurate info later on.
Anyone know if it's possible to bridge Telstra's provided modem whilst retaining VOIP? Or are there any ISP provided modems out there that support this? I heard the TPG one doesn't and I'm not sure if I can be bothered buying a VOIP ATA separately.
KELL:112 has been broken up into multiple DA's, with new pillars, new copper and new nodes gone in. I'm slowing working out what covers what now.
Hi MrMac,
Regarding KELL:112 and 2KEL-07-13-FNO-001. This DA covers around 115 houses in the new estate to the north of Memorial Avenue, a very few on Memorial Ave and older properties on the west side of Windsor Rd. Areas west of Strangers Creek are covered by 2KEL-08-16 according to https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map and are RFS. I don't see why they would need multiple DAs with only 115 houses. From what I saw today the new work at 2KEL-07-13 appears to only be connecting electricity to the node. Maybe you have inside information?
Lots of Action in 2KEL-04, Saw 4 NBN trucks working on 4 different Pillars on a Saturday. Was Quite Surprised.
Pillars on Meurants lane near Glenwood Park Drive, Malvern Road and Staff Ave.
Hope RFS comes in sooner then Oct... :)
TPG 100/40 connection.
2KEL02
498m to node
Estimated 68M down, 27M up.
Huawei HG658 modem/router
Downstream line rate (kbit/s) � 60383
Upstream line rate (kbit/s) � 30519
Downstream SNR (dB) 6.6
Upstream SNR (dB) 6.6
Downstream line attenuation (dB) 15.5
Upstream line attenuation (dB) 6.6
Downstream output power (dBmV) 14.1
Upstream output power (dBmV) 9.4
Downstream CRC 0
Upstream CRC 0
Downstream FEC 3827
Upstream FEC 20572
Overall very happy with the upgraded speeds. Downloads at 6mb/s compared to 0.6mb/s is night and day.
Upload speeds are underrated; finally able to upload my many thousands of photos to the cloud.
No more waiting for gif's to load, videos to buffer, wondering who's doing what and why it's so slow. Netflix cranking, gaming, downloading, photos uploading, and no performance drops. Awesome!
On Mr Mac's NBN map it has me as 67M down, 27M up, so kudos to the accuracy there mate!
Having said all that, running at 2/3 of the purported 100/40 speeds with little congestion due to early adoption, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't a little disappointing.
But, beggars can't be choosers...
Regarding KELL:112 and 2KEL-07-13-FNO-001. This DA covers around 115 houses in the new estate to the north of Memorial Avenue, a very few on Memorial Ave and older properties on the west side of Windsor Rd
Not that there is alot of logic to some node placements, the node is a fair distance away from the pillar (KELL:112), and would run close to 2km for some residents.
KELL:801 (the no technology found grey dots on his map) seems to be in the middle of KELL:112, but as I noted couldn't find any pillars. I believe the theory of Mr.Mac was to suggest it could be broken up given a newer estate. But I can't see any evidence to this.
Reality could be some residents in this zone are screwed, and would be lucky to keep the minimum standards of NBN.
Not that there is alot of logic to some node placements, the node is a fair distance away from the pillar (KELL:112), and would run close to 2km for some residents.
I don't think so. Looking at distances to the furthest house in KELL:112 it's about a kilometre from the node via the pillar and to the house-- which seems pretty normal the way they are doing this FTTN rollout.
Looking at distances to the furthest house in KELL:112 it's about a kilometre from the node via the pillar and to the house
Dont know the exact paths of the cables, but by road its 2km from 15-20 Arnold Ave, Kellyville � which according to myBroadband is on the edge of KELL:112.
Strange though when I look at nbn finder, it suggests the address is connected (2KEL-08).
So is it the mybroadband DA that is wrong/outdated?
I guess that is what is confusing me. That, and the mysterious KELL:801
Hi
Finally resolved speed issue for adsl2+ after escalating it. Since my contract is expiring and nbn is due in 1 years time they have offered the 99$ bundle with no extra charge for any speed issues if ever i require it as they always try to offer 100Mbs speeds if NBN infra allows it and have no speed tiers and it's on special 50% at the moment?
I didnt think it was worth it cause I dont want to be locked in another 2 year contract given that we are not yet nbn ready. I've found telstra air useless as i have problems signing in and its not available in most places I need it. I don't use home phone or their tv and already have the highly positively reviewed asus router which isnt locked down. So it comes down to their speed boost pack as per my understanding of some members comments here on getting slow speeds initially and then getting wows speeds after contacting telstra for speed increase?
Given that testra wants to go to the last drop of cost saving by outsourcing everything and no surprises with their recent outages I presume they would want to save on cvs. This nbn congestion issue already has the attention of the competition watchdog as this week read in the news that there were too many complains about nbn congestion from all carriers and customers deserve to know more details about speeds at different times and allow for no exit penalties the service didn't meet their expectations.
With adsl2+ it's a different game since they already own the infrastructure in rimmed suburbs. So can members here clarify about speed boost some of them required and does everyone with telstra require it?
Dont know the exact paths of the cables, but by road its 2km from 15-20 Arnold Ave, Kellyville � which according to myBroadband is on the edge of KELL:112
Sounds like it's not in the KELL:112 area-- must be a new DA and should and should be RFS also according to https://www.finder.com.au/nbn-tracker/map. Don't know where your node or distribution pole is. I think MrMac is looking at this. I didn't realise that area used to be part of KELL:112.
Hey, according to MrMac's heat map https://nbnmtm.carto.com/me Arnold Ave is on KELL:212 not KELL:112. You'll probably find the node near the junction of Memorial Ave and Old Windsor Rd near the distribution thingy.
You'll probably find the node near the junction of Memorial Ave and Old Windsor Rd near the distribution thingy.
There's also a pillar at the east end of Arnold Avenue and Memorial Avenue, which I think may serve 2KEL-08-16 which stretchs up Arnold to North peak. I worked out 2KEL-08-04 I think it was just west of that
KELL:801 (the no technology found grey dots on his map)
pretty sure the a lot of the DA800 numbers were direct feed to a PABX or similar from the exchange, they seem to have a border in other areas of a very small area, often like a factory site or a service station
pretty sure the a lot of the DA800 numbers were direct feed to a PABX or similar from the exchange, they seem to have a border in other areas of a very small area, often like a factory site or a service station
Yeah that confused me even more! Guess I will just have to assume KELL:112.
Hi MrMac
For KELL:10 (listed as GANSW704823728 on your MTM web test), the location is showing up a couple of streets away from its real location.
It's outside 4 Alwyn Cres � https://goo.gl/maps/Wm4sgfJihUP2 � you can see the pillar hiding behind the tree in streetview.
Thanks for all your work � it's awesome for all of those out here trying to find information!
Cheers!
There's also a pillar at the east end of Arnold Avenue and Memorial Avenue, which I think may serve 2KEL-08-16 which stretchs up Arnold to North peak.
Just checked out the above pillar. There are 2 pillars marked KELL P103 one looks older near the junction of Memorial Ave and Arnold Ave (-33.717352, 150.953326). The other newer pillar along with node 2KEL-08-16-PNO-001 is near the junction of Arnold Ave and Butler Ave (-33.714721, 150.951110) The node and pillar are right next to each other.
On 2KEL-08-10, getting hit with congestion already. getting 10/22 out of my 100/40 during peak and weekend. Lodged a fault with Aussie broadband who's going to raise it with NBN... Aussie doesn't think it's to do with capacity with Optus or themselves.
Anyone else on the same cabinet but with a different provider?
From 2KEL -02.Received an email from TPG saying that my service is active. The email advised to plug in the modern as usual and the service should be ready to go.
Connected the Huawei modem but no internet connection. Called TPG and ran through the standard troubleshooting. Reset the modem to factory settings but still not connection. The TPG helpdesk advised that they can't communicate with the modem and there could be a possible line fault. They have escalated the matter and some one will call back with 24 hours.
Extremely frustrating.
Addzy 22, my details:
Location ID: LOC000120161097 Service Class: 10 ADA: 2KEL-02-09
I'm on Edgewood Drive in SH Gardens. What about you?
Also Addzy22, after pushin and pushing with the TPG engineer, it appears that them telling me that the line is active (after providing an activation time of between 7am and 2pm today) does not mean a whole lot.
He said he is waiting on a report from the NBN on the status of the line, stating that they never got confirmation from NBN and just assumed it was active. I would have hoped that 6 weeks would have been long enough a lead time to get the activation right on the day. So frustrating and would definitely not recommend TPG for anyone who hasn't already had so much invested with them.
Im also in Stanhope G, NBN was connected last week � Telstra
FTTN, 100/40
been getting 90+Mbps consistently
Hi All,
I'm noticing significant drop in download speed from 6PM onwards every day.
I normally get 93mbps dload but after 8pm it goes down to mid 40s
Is there value way to fix this
Thanks
wondering if only I am affected. Which area are you from?
No you're not alone. See my posts here:
Shane.
Hi All,
I'm noticing significant drop in download speed from 6PM onwards every day.
I normally get 93mbps dload but after 8pm it goes down to mid 40s
Is there value way to fix this
Thanks
I'm getting the same with ADSL at the moment, ever since the NBN was rolled out across the road. Normally get around 5-6Mb/s and then drop to less than 1 for a few hours.
That is correct, but as I stated, with FTTN, every meter counts, even the internal wiring in your house counts.
If that is the case, NBN Co is retarded... They separated the closest node and pillar to me by at least 40m... the node being closer to me. I wonder how much of an affect it'll have on my speed.
40m is pretty excessive :-O I would hope though that that is alleviated by at least having new copper between the pillar and node as opposed to the same old copper between the pillar and you as you always had ?
Still pretty unimpressive nonetheless :(
ADSL-2 to NBN xfer from iinet literally took 5 minutes. I am waiting for my phone line to be enabled.
As my sync speed is 85/40 and I am on 25/5 plan I just upgraded on the iinet website so I am waiting for both things now.
Impressed at the lack of downtime so far. I will reserve my judgement until it is complete.
My NBN debacle continues. After signing up at RFS on 7th July, finally have install date of 30th August. I'm guessing that NBN may have been struggling on the long 350m copper run from Node to pillar
My NBN debacle continues. After signing up at RFS on 7th July, finally have install date of 30th August. I'm guessing that NBN may have been struggling on the long 350m copper run from Node to pillar
Ah, so you're on that pillar that's connecting to shared node I'm on... yeah... such a horrible design... I'm having congestion issues during peak, so they raised a fault with NBN to have a look.... won't hold my breath if they will bother to do anything...
I just got off the phone with nbn and my provider.
The nbn "rollout design issue" that I was told was a blocker has now been resolved and i'm supported to get an email confirming my installation date today or tomorrow.
According to the nbn map I'm 2KEL-08-16
Anybody else receiving lower than expected speeds?
Macs Map showed an estimated 82mbbs being 300m from node to pillar and 300 from pillar to premise. However with TPG 100/40 and i'm getting anywhere between 19mbs and 26mbs.
2Kel 05-02
If that is the case,
Yes it is.
NBN Co is retarded
Nope, just the technology.
I wonder how much of an affect it'll have on my speed.
It's the overall distance to the node that is crucial, not the individual distances (house to pillar and pillar to node). If your total distance is about 300m or less, you hit the Node-lotto jackpot.
It's the overall distance to the node that is crucial, not the individual distances (house to pillar and pillar to node). If your total distance is about 300m or less, you hit the Node-lotto jackpot.
Only first part of the lotto... the bottleneck would have to be the node when you have over 300 users on one to share a 1Gb connection...
over 300 users on one to share a 1Gb connection
All FTTN users loose on that one :(
Macs Map showed an estimated 82mbbs being 300m from node to pillar and 300 from pillar to premise.
That seems awfully high estimate for a 600M run, I'd expect closer to 50Mbps � 60Mbps at that distance. Also note that the line lengths are estimated, mine are shown as being under 500M but I know my actual line length is around 730M � you may find yours is similarly underestimated in the map.
Having said that, I would expect you should be getting closer to 50Mbps. Are your quoted speeds from speed tests or modem sync stats?
Anybody else receiving lower than expected speeds?
Check internal wiring , I've got 30 mbps improvement just by replacing old cabling and relocating phone socket closer to the street.
worth spending one off. VDSL2 is too sensitive to the line quality and noise.
So The NBN tech came to my house today. He said there was an issue with my connection to the node. He went to the node and did something and came back to my house and told my parents the net should be up and running (I was at work).
When I got home I performed a speed test. I'm getting 45/21..
According the Mr Mac's heat map:
KELL:62
TECH
FTTN
ESTIMATED DOWNLOAD SPEED (MBPS)
89
ESTIMATED UPLOAD SPEED (MBPS)
35
DISTANCE: NODE TO PILLAR (M)
DISTANCE: PILLAR TO PREMISE (M)
340
I've called TPG and the helpdesk was hopeless.
Check internal wiring , I've got 30 mbps improvement just by replacing old cabling and relocating phone socket closer to the street.
worth spending one off. VDSL2 is too sensitive to the line quality and noise.
I did have a TPG tech come to my house years ago when I was having ADSL issues. they did test the line and advised there was a lot of noise and this was a result of internal wiring. I asked TPG today to give me a quote for a tech to come on site to check the internal wiring.
How do I improve my speed? should I replace the crappy modem that was provided by TPG? should I get the wiring re-done like curiousSpider did? 30mbps is a huge difference and it would be worth the money to rewire the house.
should I get the wiring re-done like curiousSpider did?
since there is no traditional phone option once you're on NBN, you can get CAT 6 cable direct from premise entry point.
disconnect all old connection/cables you might have and just keep one brand new socket. (you can always use DECT handset for VOIP needs).
This reduces noise on the line. I had Matt from MDB electricals helping me with new wiring. awesome job he did and magical boost in speed.
MrMac � any info on how I can get an update on 2KEL-06? It still says Build Prep on NBN's site
Hi Guys,
Long time lurker of this post, first time to post as i got alot of information from this thread alone!
I got connected last week on 2KEL-02-07, with TPG 100/40 � FTTN.
I was relatively disappointed with my connection speed of 43/24. I confirmed and had connections re-done at these points to confirm this was not the cause. TPG basically said anything over 25mbps is acceptable so there was nothing i could do.
Luckily for me im in a single story and wiring is easily accessible. I shortened my Phone line by about 20 meters in total and terminated at the front of the house. My speeds as of right now are:
Downstream line rate (kbit/s): 81524 Kbps
Upstream line rate (kbit/s): 30629 Kbps
That is a whopping 38/6 GAIN over what i was almost ready to accept!!!!
I'm not implying this will apply to everyone, however if your speeds arent exactly as you expected, don't give up and try and a few things before just accepting what you have!
Luckily for me im in a single story and wiring is easily accessible. I shortened my Phone line by about 20 meters in total and terminated at the front of the house.
How do you go about shortening the wiring? Assuming that there's a bundle of excess cable in the walls?
Here is what it looks like with regards to node and pillar location.
Pillar on Rufus and the node on Kinchega... according to the total walking distance I am still within roughly 300m so hopefully it doesn't affect speed.
Good post Rob :)
Are you finding much throughput or latency variation throughout the day like others seem to be ?
Any update on congestion issue. I am stuck on 11 Mbps since being connected around 10 days ago. Telstra are impossible to talk to so I am not sure what to do.
Downstream line rate (kbit/s): 11450 Kbps
Upstream line rate (kbit/s): 4200 Kbps
Anyone using an RSP that utilises Optus as their off-net provider will be having congestion issues. Aussie Broadband confirmed that our area, Optus, are having problems during peak times and will be scheduling upgrades next week to fix it.
Guess Optus didn't foresee that our uptake for NBN was that fast...
Anyone using an RSP that utilises Optus as their off-net provider will be having congestion issues. Aussie Broadband confirmed that our area, Optus, are having problems during peak times and will be scheduling upgrades next week to fix it.
I'm direct with Optus 2KEL-05 and have noticed the past couple of nights things seem to be slower during those peak times. I put it down to the fact more and more people are being connected. Hopefully their "upgrade" does the job.
how I can get an update on 2KEL-06? It still says Build Prep on NBN's site
Construction starts next week with a late March '17 RFS date.
Awesome! Thanks. Where did you get that info?
Just signed up to iiNet for NBN. Currently with iiNet on naked DSL. The current connection sits steady at around 5mbps after ready all the comments on here hope I don't regret changing to NBN.
Can you change back (at a cost) from NBN fttn to dsl?
Located in Kellyville Village (older part of Kellyville)
Finally signed up, chose Aussie Broadband with an estimated activation appointment date of the 24th this month. Do I have to manually contact my current ISP (Telstra) to disconnect my phone and ADSL?
Can you change back (at a cost) from NBN fttn to dsl?
No, because after 18 months from RFS, all lines (that haven't been jumpered to the node) will be disconnected from the exchange, and if you haven't connected to the NBN then, you will lose internet and phone line connectivity.
Finally signed up, chose Aussie Broadband with an estimated activation appointment date of the 24th this month. Do I have to manually contact my current ISP (Telstra) to disconnect my phone and ADSL?
Best is to wait for NBN activation occur and you have a working internet and then disconnect afterwards. Are you porting your phone number too? then you will need to let Aussie broadband know as well if you want to keep it else if you disconnect from Telstra, it's as good as gone.
Any feedback on what Exeter fttn is like in performance? On 2Rou-03 which comes alive in September 16
Anybody else receiving lower than expected speeds?
Macs Map showed an estimated 82mbbs being 300m from node to pillar and 300 from pillar to premise. However with TPG 100/40 and i'm getting anywhere between 19mbs and 26mbs.
2Kel 05-02
Macs map showed 59 download for me......reality is 36 :( I'm guessing I must have bad wiring or something but the house isn't that old.
I'm direct with Optus 2KEL-05 and have noticed the past couple of nights things seem to be slower during those peak times. I put it down to the fact more and more people are being connected. Hopefully their "upgrade" does the job.
Was having a peek at the Aussie broadband site, and it seems that Optus had did the 'upgrade', and there is more capacity...
Will give it a crack tonight and see if it's any better, since Friday and Saturday are the worst for peak.
Do you mean Exetel Edd ?
I'm on 2Rou-03 and I'm thinking of going with Aussie BB on a 50 plan initially � they have a month by month option so I'm going to see how it goes � I would hate to lock myself into a provider for 24 mths and then find out other people on 2Rou-03 are getting a much better service with other providers. Hard to tell at this point though of course who is going to shine, but in general I've not heard good things about Exetel...
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